I watched the game again last night....

[ModSocks]

I've been trying to avoid it, but I was bored last night and couldn't resist. Im kinda glad I did watch it though. I can see why we lost the way we did and it had much more to do with the coaching staff than the players. I know it's not the popular opinion but I don't think the talent on this team is as bad as last week may indicate. That Includes Cassel (ducks for cover)

Romeo Crennel was out coached. He had a shit gameplan and did a terrible job. He was reactive instead of proactive. He put his players in a terrible position. He did not put the right players in a position to succeed. That was the worst DC performance I've ever seen from him. Let me explain.

On the majority of the Snaps the Bills came out and spread their offense. Crennel reacted by putting in our sub defense packages, which usually featured two down linemen. He took Dorsey out of the game and subbed in Gilberry.

The majority of 1st downs we were not in our base D. Gilberry is not an every down player, yet in the 1st half it seemed like he took more snaps than Dorsey. On the majority of Jackson's longer runs which occurred on 1st and 2nd down, Gilberry got his shit pushed in. When ever Dorsey was in the game the runs resulted in much shorter gains.

Gilberry and Bailey absolutely got blown off the ball. Gregg was inconsistant but Dorsey was a beast. So Why the **** wasn't Dorsey in the game more? Especially on first downs.

I recall a series in which the Bills were 10-15 yards from the endzone yet Gilberry took 3-4 consecutive snaps. That's unacceptable.

The Chiefs did EXACTLY what the Bills wanted them to do.




AND THEN....


Berry goes out and McGraw and Shitsthebeddy come in. Rather than masking that defeciency they completely expose it! In what ****ing universe does lining up pissthebedy over a slot receiver or TE make any ****ing sense? And lets not get started on the pass rushing.

I have a lot more to say regarding the offense but the OP is already too long....

In conclusion, the coaching staff failed to put the right players in the right position to succeed.

[The Franchise]

We should have been blitzing the shit out of Fitzpatrick from the beginning. You destroy his confidence first and then confuse him by dropping people back into coverage.

[Graystoke]

Cripes are you sucidal?

[ModSocks]

The offensive play calling did not help either.

The play that goCheifs gife'd up where Charles took a pass behind the LOS and got swallowed by 3 defenders...yeah that looked to me like it was by design.

Cassel snapped the ball, immediately tries to look it off but you could tell he knew exactly where he was suppose to go with the ball. FFS, Charles telegraphed the play the entire time. Did he even take his eyes off Cassel?

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Agree 100 %. One of, if not the worst coached Chiefs game I've ever seen.

[Mr. Laz]

coaching?


Where have a heard that before? :hmmm:

[The Franchise]

How long has it been since this team ran a fucking screen play?

[ModSocks]

I thought i was going to turn the TV on and see a bunch of players that were unprepared and overmatched. Instead i saw a gross misuse of player personnel.

[seaofred]

How long has it been since this team ran a ****ing screen play?


The play to Charles was a screen. Look at the .gif again and watch the linemen. It was a screen.

[The Franchise]

The play to Charles was a screen. Look at the .gif again and watch the linemen. It was a screen.

Sorry....let me rephrase that.

How long has it been since they've run a fucking screen play that worked?

[Coogs]

I taped the game too. Unlike you though, I don't think I have the stomach to watch it again. Probably just going to delete it before Sunday's game. :shrug:

[Mr. Laz]

I thought i was going to turn the TV on and see a bunch of players that were unprepared and overmatched. Instead i saw a gross misuse of player personnel.imo unprepared goes hand-in-hand with misuse.

When your players aren't ready to handle a certain formation or play then they are unprepared.

our coaching staff needs to step the fuck up.

On offense we are playing checkers while other teams are playing chess.

[Okie_Apparition]

Wasn't stinky finger calling plays after the half. He sure was doing alot of talking to somebody over that headset

[B_Ambuehl]

You're absolutely right. The problem with what you say about Dorsey is if they put him in sub packages too then he ends up playing too many snaps. Most coaches/teams run their personnel packages the same way - according to personnel from the opposition. Buffalo was gonna move the ball one way or the other. You can't give a guy like Chan Gailey an entire offseason to gameplan for you after you fired him the year previous. That IMO was the main problem from a defensive perspective. I'd worry a lot more about the offense than the defense at this point. The casshole looks like he's continued his late season regression from last year - and Bill Muir looks like he'd fit right in as playcaller for Herm.

[MIAdragon]

imo unprepared goes hand-in-hand with misuse.

When your players aren't ready to handle a certain formation or play then they are unprepared.

our coaching staff needs to step the **** up.

On offense we are playing checkers while other teams are playing chess.

pretty much this. It was a sad effort from top to bottom.

[Chiefnj2]

I thought i was going to turn the TV on and see a bunch of players that were unprepared and overmatched. Instead i saw a gross misuse of player personnel.

You don't think they were overmatched? Berry gave up a TD, Flowers gave up 2, Jackson carried multiple defenders on a consistent basis ...

[ModSocks]

You're absolutely right. The problem with what you say about Dorsey is if they put him in sub packages too then he ends up playing too many snaps. Most coaches/teams run their personnel packages the same way - according to personnel from the opposition. Buffalo was gonna move the ball one way or the other. You can't give a guy like Chan Gailey an entire offseason to gameplan for you after you fired him the year previous. That IMO was the main problem from a defensive perspective. I'd worry a lot more about the offense than the defense at this point. The casshole looks like he's continued his late season regression from last year - and Bill Muir looks like he'd fit right in as playcaller for Herm.

The Chiefs had no problem playing Dorsey a lot last season. He held up fine and it worked. Dorsey and Gregg should've been in on 1st and 2nd downs, Gilberry and Bailey can come in on 3rd down.

The fact remains: The Bills came out on 1st down and made the Chiefs think Pass. Chiefs put their pass rushing specialists out there and got run all over. Time after time again. It's pretty freaking easy to get a 1st down when the offense is looking at 2nd and 4 every series.

You'd think that Romeo would learn. Gaily ran circles around Crennel.

[Frosty]

Sorry....let me rephrase that.

How long has it been since they've run a ****ing screen play that worked?

Probably back in the DV days.

[Coogs]

The Chiefs had no problem playing Dorsey a lot last season. He held up fine and it worked. Dorsey and Gregg should've been in on 1st and 2nd downs, Gilberry and Bailey can come in on 3rd down.

The fact remains: The Bills came out on 1st down and made the Chiefs think Pass. Chiefs put their pass rushing specialists out there and got run all over. Time after time again. It's pretty freaking easy to get a 1st down when the offense is looking at 2nd and 4 every series.

You'd think that Romeo would learn. Gaily ran circles around Crennel.

I've never really understood why Dorsey doesn't slide into the inside on our 3rd down set... which is essentially a 4 man line. Houston and Hali on the ends, Dorsey and whoever else at the DT spots.

[ModSocks]

You don't think they were overmatched? Berry gave up a TD, Flowers gave up 2, Jackson carried multiple defenders on a consistent basis ...

No, I don't. I think the Chiefs coaches asked certain players to do things that they aren't good at doing. In return they got beat. The Berry TD was given up on a very short field. The Flowers TD was just a great play by Stevie. Flowers had good coverage. Johnson had 4 catches for 66 Yards. That hardly says overmatched to me.

The O-line certainly was not man handled. Charles showed flashes of nearly breaking a big one. The D-Line got handled when the wrong personnel were out there.

If you knew the Bills were going to run on you, do you think putting Gilberry and Bailey out there is a good idea? That's exactly what I mean by putting your players in a position to fail.

[The Franchise]

I don't want to hear shit about protection issues. Cassel had plenty of time. He just completely shit himself all game long.

[Chiefnj2]

No, I don't. I think the Chiefs coaches asked certain players to do things that they aren't good at doing. In return they got beat. The Berry TD was given up on a very short field. The Flowers TD was just a great play by Stevie. Flowers had good coverage. Johnson had 4 catches for 66 Yards. That hardly says overmatched to me.

The O-line certainly was not man handled. Charles showed flashes of nearly breaking a big one. The D-Line got handled when the wrong personnel were out there.

If you knew the Bills were going to run on you, do you think putting Gilberry and Bailey out there is a good idea? That's exactly what I mean by putting your players in a position to fail.

Fitz went 7 for 7 when throwing at McGraw, Pisc and Lewis. Those three were overmatched. What's the excuse for lack of a pass rush, wrong personnel on the field?

[ModSocks]

I don't want to hear shit about protection issues. Cassel had plenty of time. He just completely shit himself all game long.

Yup. The O-line held it down for the most part.

One more thing: I understand the Chiefs are trying to get more weapons involved in the passing game, but if it ain't happening, please throw the fucking ball to Bowe. Covered or not. Give him a chance at least. How many targets did he even get?

[KCrockaholic]

Houston was dropped into coverage about 80% of his snaps.

That's a bad coaching decision. He's a pure pass rusher, yet, he only rushed the passer 3 times.

[Mr. Laz]

pretty much this. It was a sad effort from top to bottom.
and such a shitty offensive coaching job reflects most directly on the Quarterback.

I'm not saying Cassel is anything more than a game manager type guy but our coaches aren't doing a good enough job. Period.

Like i said before ... Cassel is not much different than Trent Green.

You saddle Green with this shitty coaching staff and scheme, he would look a lot like Cassel. Dazed and confused.

Of course willie roaf helped a ton too. :)

[The Franchise]

Fitz went 7 for 7 when throwing at McGraw, Pisc and Lewis. Those three were overmatched. What's the excuse for lack of a pass rush, wrong personnel on the field?

The excuse for the lack of pass rush is Crennel. He repeatedly rushed 3-4 guys....Hali being the only OLB rushing Fitzpatrick. All Buffalo did was double team Hali.

[ModSocks]

Fitz went 7 for 7 when throwing at McGraw, Pisc and Lewis. Those three were overmatched. What's the excuse for lack of a pass rush, wrong personnel on the field?

Rewatch the game.

You're missing my point. Lining pissthebedy over a WR in the slot is a mismatch. Of course he is going to be picked on. It happened all game long. The scheme shouldn't put a player like that in a situation like that. That falls on the hands of the coaching staff. Instead of hiding our defeciencies, Crennel left them to be exposed.

I've been saying it this entire thread.

What's the excuse for the lack of pass rush? Did you watch the game? They didn't even send a pass rush....

[Chiefnj2]

The excuse for the lack of pass rush is Crennel. He repeatedly rushed 3-4 guys....Hali being the only OLB rushing Fitzpatrick. All Buffalo did was double team Hali.

If your front 4 isn't generating a pass rush, then isn't it usually a case where the DL is overmatched by the OL?

[Chiefnj2]

Rewatch the game.



No way.

If Buffalo is 4 wide and Berry is out, who do you want covering the 4th receiver? I'm assuming you are using Flowers, Carr and Arenas on 1-3.

[Mr. Laz]

The made the same mistake on offense and defense.

They tried to use Piscitelli/O'connell like they were Berry/Moeaki with disastrous effect.

It's even worse on offense because Moeaki was hurt before the season even started.

[The Franchise]

If your front 4 isn't generating a pass rush, then isn't it usually a case where the DL is overmatched by the OL?

Of course they're going to be overmatched when you're only sending 4.

[ModSocks]

They tried to use Piscitelli/O'connell like they were Berry/Moeaki with disastrous effect.


Bingo.

[Chiefnj2]

Of course they're going to be overmatched when you're only sending 4.

It isn't an "of course". Plenty of teams rush 4 and generate pressure.

[ModSocks]

No way.

If Buffalo is 4 wide and Berry is out, who do you want covering the 4th receiver? I'm assuming you are using Flowers, Carr and Arenas on 1-3.

Oh, I don't know, maybe Jalil Brown? Someone Qualified for the job maybe? Or better yet, overload the O-line and rush the passer, leave everyone else in a short zone.

[The Franchise]

It isn't an "of course". Plenty of teams rush 4 and generate pressure.

In the 3-4?

Kelly Gregg isn't a pass rushing NT......and Tyson Jackson isn't consistent enough.

[BigMeatballDave]

I don't want to hear shit about protection issues. Cassel had plenty of time. He just completely shit himself all game long.This. I'm certain he missed open receivers on several occasions. That 3rd down sack he took in the 1st half he had Urban And Bowe open. FUCK him!

[Old Dog]

Gaily ran circles around Crennel.

You would think that would have worn him out.

[WhiteWhale]

It isn't an "of course". Plenty of teams rush 4 and generate pressure.

Yeah.

They're called "good defenses".

The blitz is a tool, it's not a lifeline. If you have to rely on the blitz, you don't have a good defense.

[BossChief]

Sorry....let me rephrase that.

How long has it been since they've run a fucking screen play that worked?

For plays like screens and swing passes to be truly effective, you have to be able to stretch the field vertically.

With Matt Cassel at QB, that is probably never gonna happen.

Against our passing game, all teams have to be prepared for is about 15 different types of plays and thats it and all of them can be defended within 15 yards of the LOS.

He absolutely murders this offense.

Sucks because a screen pass is intended to take the pressure off the oline so that the opposing team has to play on their heels, instead of coming right at you....but if you cant benefit from the longer developing pass plays that go for big yardage, screens are easy to see coming and easier to jump.

Just watch, as soon as we make a switch at QB, screens, draws swing passes and other parts of this offense will become effective again.

[NJChiefsFan]

I taped the game too. Unlike you though, I don't think I have the stomach to watch it again. Probably just going to delete it before Sunday's game. :shrug:

Me too. I usually watch the Directv cut-ups 2 or 3 times, even bad losses. This one stings too much though, I don't think I can bring myself to watch it again.

[the Talking Can]

we run a preschool offense because of Cassel....

[Dave Lane]

How long has it been since this team ran a ****ing screen play?

God I remember those days.


Everyone screaming wtf are you running a fucking screen play for! Personally I liked the screen to Kimble Anders.

[Hammock Parties]

McCluster's fumble + Pope's would-be TD was huge.

Could have been 14-13 Chiefs at halftime.

[lcarus]

We should have been blitzing the shit out of Fitzpatrick from the beginning. You destroy his confidence first and then confuse him by dropping people back into coverage.

Yeah when Arrowhead is pumped like that you gotta get after offenses early. Fitzpatrick should have been eating dirt. No killer instinct in our front seven besides Hali.

[The Franchise]

Yeah when Arrowhead is pumped like that you gotta get after offenses early. Fitzpatrick should have been eating dirt. No killer instinct in our front seven besides Hali.

It wasn't the killer instinct of our players. It was the fact that Romeo hardly sent anymore than 4 at a time.

[NJChiefsFan]

It wasn't the killer instinct of our players. It was the fact that Romeo hardly sent anymore than 4 at a time.

Yeah its hard for a guy like Houston to have killer instinct when he is in pass coverage.