If not Luck...

[jlscorpio]

While we may be in position to pick up Luck in the draft, my guess is we'll have a high pick, but maybe not the TOP pick. What about Landry Jones or Matt Barkley? Jones stock seems to be skyrocketing with every passing week, and Barkley's has always been relatively high. If we can't get Luck, I'd love to have one of these guys, especially Jones.

[Mr_Tomahawk]

Isn't Barkley a junior who is expected to finish school and stay his senior year...better chances of being #1 next year?

[Chiefs=Champions]

I just want to at least attempt to draft a 1st round QB. Luck would be a wet dream come true.

[Quesadilla Joe]

There is no way in hell the Chiefs can outsuck the Seahawks.

[dilligaf]

How about Kelen Moore. Very accurate and makes good decisions. All he does is win games.

[oaklandhater]

There is no way in hell the Chiefs can outsuck the Seahawks.

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[notorious]

No to Landry or Barkley.


I have watched every OU game for the last decade. My OU friends and I comment on how "blah" Landry looks, but when they show the stat line we are amazed. It doesn't take long to figure out why he looks very average but puts up big numbers:



Landry is a QB that throws the short shit that his 4 and 5-star receivers turn into big plays.


Cassel is a QB that throws the short shit (rather inaccurately) that his WR's get blown up on.


I am scared of Barkley since he is a elite QB from and elite football school. How many of those guys actually turn out to be any good when they get to the NFL? Great NFL QB's fight for everything the get in college.

[Fritz88]

Anyone saw Lee against Miss?
My first time seeing him, guy looked promising.
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[Reerun_KC]

Who knows, We dont know whats going to happen the rest of the season...

[notorious]

Who knows, We dont know whats going to happen the rest of the season...

You are a baiting SOB. :D

[chiefzilla1501]

How about Kelen Moore. Very accurate and makes good decisions. All he does is win games.

Yikes. No.

[58-4ever]

Yikes. No.

This. Kellen Moore is a midget that is generously listed at 6 feet tall.

[tredadda]

What about Foles from Arizona? Some people speak highly of him. Just a thought in case we don't "Luck" out and get the #1 pick or if we are unwilling to give up what it takes to get Luck (which given Pioli's history we shouldn't expect the Chiefs to do that).

[dilligaf]

Yikes. No.

Why do say that? Another poster said that great NfL QBs fight for everything they get in college. I've watched almost every game More has played. The only downside I see is that he looks like Elway!:D

[Frosty]

What about Foles from Arizona? Some people speak highly of him. Just a thought in case we don't "Luck" out and get the #1 pick or if we are unwilling to give up what it takes to get Luck (which given Pioli's history we shouldn't expect the Chiefs to do that).

My #2 guy, though, admittedly, I haven't seen much of Jones. Barkley is too inconsistent for my taste.

It's Foles vs Luck tonight on ESPN at 8 PM Eastern, BTW.

[notorious]

We will end up drafting Jantz in a late round.

[dilligaf]

This. Kellen Moore is a midget that is generously listed at 6 feet tall.

Then its a good thing we didn't draft Drew Brees. How would have ever won anything with that smurf under center.

[Reerun_KC]

You are a baiting SOB. :D


Well Fruck dude. We just spent a offseason debating shit like this, it was getting tiresome and boring...

Now one fucking game in and every fucking little dick is wanting to just give up and starting talking about next years draft... And talk about a guy we have less thant 10% chance of actually possibly considering much less aquire...

Its like beating your dick with a meat tenderizer... Its not really a good idea, but you want to try it anyway...

[Reerun_KC]

Then its a good thing we didn't draft Drew Brees. How would have ever won anything with that smurf under center.

Moore seems like a dark horse in the draft... He should be a mid to late first round QB. No hype around him, he just goes out, does what needs to be done....

[Reerun_KC]

This. Kellen Moore is a midget that is generously listed at 6 feet tall.

So?

[dilligaf]

Moore seems like a dark horse in the draft... He should be a mid to late first round QB. No hype around him, he just goes out, does what needs to be done....

Exactly.

[Reerun_KC]

Exactly.

So if there isn't any possiblility of getting luck then I wouldn't hesitate to spend a first round pick on him.

[notorious]

So if there isn't any possiblility of getting luck then I wouldn't hesitate to spend a first round pick on him.

Might as well try.

[Chiefnj2]

Moore doesn't have an NFL build. Listed at 6' and 190 pounds means he's an inch or so shorter and 10lbs lighter.

[dilligaf]

Moore doesn't have an NFL build. Listed at 6' and 190 pounds means he's an inch or so shorter and 10lbs lighter.

As I've already posted. Same size as Drew Brees.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

I was driving through the bank yesterday when McShay came on ESPN radio to talk about the game between OU and Free Shoes U. He mentioned that in one game he watched of Landry Jones on film in which he threw 32 passes, he made five deep "drops", the other 27 were all bubble screens, HB screens, or quick hitters.

That's what would scare me about him as a prospect. What do you know that he can actually do throwing intermediate and deep routes?

Sounds too Casselian for my tastes.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Ricky Stanzi has all the tools. I think we already have our franchise QB. We'll see if he puts in the work to make it happen.

[MahiMike]

So does this mean we missed the plethora of QB's by 1 year? seems like half the crummy teams got their QB this year.

[notorious]

Sounds too Casselian for my tastes.

He is Cassel.

[dilligaf]

Ricky Stanzi has all the tools. I think we already have our franchise QB. We'll see if he puts in the work to make it happen.

I'm all for him starting now. I'm tired of watching Cassel.

[Frosty]

My #2 guy, though, admittedly, I haven't seen much of Jones. Barkley is too inconsistent for my taste.

It's Foles vs Luck tonight on ESPN at 8 PM Eastern, BTW.

Crap. It's at 7:45 Pacific. Sorry.

[Bewbies]

Crap. It's at 7:45 Pacific. Sorry.

I plan on watching the replay on ESPN 3 this week. 1045 Eastern is too late of a kickoff for me...

[BossChief]

Ricky Stanzi has all the tools. I think we already have our franchise QB. We'll see if he puts in the work to make it happen.

ahem

DICK Stanzi

;)

[Tribal Warfare]

He is Cassel.

No, Jones actually started in college

[BillSelfsTrophycase]

Love it or leave it

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[CaliforniaChief]

Unluck.

[Tribal Warfare]

Love it or leave it

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[bowener]

I'm all for him starting now. I'm tired of watching Cassel.
Quick, somebody get a billboard fund going. I can see it now!

God Blessed Mmurica the day Ricky Stanzi was born!

[Reerun_KC]

Might as well try.

I would think the chiefs could get Moore along with keeping all their picks..

We just need Cassel to stay healthy and continue to play like he did week 1.

We dont need him injured, that would be the worst thing to happen to this franchise...

[milkman]

ahem

DICK Stanzi

;)

I'll stick with Ricky.

But I have no problem if the rest of you like Dick.

[redgoldexpress]

What about Foles from Arizona? Some people speak highly of him. Just a thought in case we don't "Luck" out and get the #1 pick or if we are unwilling to give up what it takes to get Luck (which given Pioli's history we shouldn't expect the Chiefs to do that).

Luck's numbers for last year and this year
last year---263 372 3338 70.7 8.97 32 8 170.2
this year---37 54 461 68.5 8.54 6 1 173.2

Nick Foles numbers for last year and this year
last year---286 426 3191 67.1 7.49 20 10 140.9
this year---71 93 810 76.3 8.71 6 0 170.8

I follow Pac-12 sports regularly since I used to live in Tucson and stay up to watch U of A whenever I can. If we cannot get Luck (which I do not see us doing), and we use our first draft pick on a quarter back, I think that Nick would be a great addition, since he does have a great touch on throwing the long ball and fade routes to the corner of the end zone to the receivers.

[BillSelfsTrophycase]

I'll stick with Ricky.

But I have no problem if the rest of you like Dick.



Sounds like a great poster


Dick in the House

[notorious]

What about Foles from Arizona? Some people speak highly of him. Just a thought in case we don't "Luck" out and get the #1 pick or if we are unwilling to give up what it takes to get Luck (which given Pioli's history we shouldn't expect the Chiefs to do that).

Luck's numbers for last year and this year
last year---263 372 3338 70.7 8.97 32 8 170.2
this year---37 54 461 68.5 8.54 6 1 173.2

Nick Foles numbers for last year and this year
last year---286 426 3191 67.1 7.49 20 10 140.9
this year---71 93 810 76.3 8.71 6 0 170.8

I follow Pac-12 sports regularly since I used to live in Tucson and stay up to watch U of A whenever I can. If we cannot get Luck (which I do not see us doing), and we use our first draft pick on a quarter back, I think that Nick would be a great addition, since he does have a great touch on throwing the long ball and fade routes to the corner of the end zone to the receivers.

Numbers make my brain hurt.


How does he look on a swing pass?

[BossChief]

I'll stick with Ricky.


OK, Lucy.

:p

[redgoldexpress]

he can make hit the swing pass as well... But I believe we need a quarterback that starts to go downfield more often.. to make the swing pass less predictable.

[ChiefGator]

Not impressed by Landry last night.

[Chiefnj2]

Luck, Foles (!st half last night) and Landry all threw lots of short passes last night. If you want to watch a college game and be impressed by downfield passing the team is going to have to play a patsy or be more of a spread attack.

Foles is tough to evaluate since his team isn't all that great on the OL.

[Reerun_KC]

Luck, Foles (!st half last night) and Landry all threw lots of short passes last night. If you want to watch a college game and be impressed by downfield passing the team is going to have to play a patsy or be more of a spread attack.

Foles is tough to evaluate since his team isn't all that great on the OL.

Calling bullshit here...

Cause a good QB makes his OL better... Same with the NFL..

[Bump]

what about that dude who plays for Arizona? Foles?

[Bump]

at this point, I'd trade a 2nd or 3rd for Chase fucking Daniels and i hate Chase fucking Daniels

[milkman]

Calling bullshit here...

Cause a good QB makes his OL better... Same with the NFL..

I only watched the first half, but I was impressed Foles pocket presence and mobility, along with his arm and touch.

[BillSelfsTrophycase]

at this point, I'd trade a 2nd or 3rd for Chase fucking Daniels and i hate Chase fucking Daniels

:spock:

I hate Cassel as much as the next guy, but Chase Daniel?

[jlscorpio]

my thread has now officially been rendered null, since we will be taking Luck w/the #1 overall pick.

[ModSocks]

Who are we going to beat, really? We'll win maybe 2-3 games. We should start looking at Luck.

[oaklandhater]

There is no way in hell the Chiefs can outsuck the Seahawks.

still feel that way after today.

[Hammock Parties]

A good GM/HC would start preparing Stanzi to start the last 8 games of the year to see if he has anything in the event we don't get Luck.

But we won't do that.

Horror scenario: We go 1-15 and hold on to Cassel just in case we don't get Luck, we lose some dumb tiebreaker and draft 2nd, don't get Luck, trade down and pick up a RT, and start Cassel.

[NJChiefsFan]

A good GM/HC would start preparing Stanzi to start the last 8 games of the year to see if he has anything in the event we don't get Luck.

But we won't do that.

I don't know. The vibe from this game, from Cassel's look on the sideline, to the tone Haley said some things in his presser with, I am thinking there might be a chance. I was a believer we wouldn't this year, but I got some hope today. Didn't hurt that Palko threw the worst throw of all time towards the sideline.

[RealSNR]

A good GM/HC would start preparing Stanzi to start the last 8 games of the year to see if he has anything in the event we don't get Luck.

But we won't do that.

Horror scenario: We go 1-15 and hold on to Cassel just in case we don't get Luck, we lose some dumb tiebreaker and draft 2nd, don't get Luck, trade down and pick up a RT, and start Cassel.I might just quit watching football altogether until Pioli is fired if that happened.

No way I subject myself to that rape

[mdchiefsfan]

I'm all for him starting now. I'm tired of watching Cassel.

I understand this and would support it if the offseason weren't shortened. I fully believe that we need to let him practice and for God's sake make him active. Because 2/2 of our games we could have gave him some NFL experience. But we are activating players like Becht and Battle. UGH!!!

[Barret]

My question is this, Why is both Stanzi and Powe inactive?? Last yer we had almost all the rookies in the games and playing. I understand you can't have Stanzi in when you are still tied to Cassel but if you are getting blown out, why not get them adjusted to the NFL speed?

[BryanBusby]

Who are we going to beat, really? We'll win maybe 2-3 games. We should start looking at Luck.

We will have that "feel good win" and fuck everything up by beating the Colts. We're going to get beat in any tie breaker situation, so the Chiefs have to be clearly the worst team in the NFL to get Luck.

They are going to fuck this up.

[mdchiefsfan]

My question is this, Why is both Stanzi and Powe inactive?? Last yer we had almost all the rookies in the games and playing. I understand you can't have Stanzi in when you are still tied to Cassel but if you are getting blown out, why not get them adjusted to the NFL speed?

My thoughts exactly.

[alnorth]

If not Luck, then best QB available.

Unless Cassel shows a jaw-dropping leap in improvement over the rest of the season, against good teams, it is clear we need to accept that the guaranteed portion of his contract is a sunk cost and move on.

[alnorth]

Who are we going to beat, really? We'll win maybe 2-3 games. We should start looking at Luck.

There's a huge difference between 2 or 3 wins. We will probably lose every tiebreaker, we have to be the clear-cut crappiest team in the NFL, no ties.

It can be done with 3 wins, but there's many years with more than one 3-win team. We need to be 1-15 or 2-14 to be relatively safe.

[mdchiefsfan]

There's a huge difference between 2 or 3 wins. We will probably lose every tiebreaker, we have to be the clear-cut crappiest team in the NFL, no ties.

It can be done with 3 wins, but there's many years with more than one 3-win team. We need to be 1-15 or 2-14 to be relatively safe.

So far, mission accomplished!

[oRYMANo]

Brandon Weeden or Case Keenum

[Tribal Warfare]

Barkley or Burfict would be nice

[oaklandhater]

We will have that "feel good win" and **** everything up by beating the Colts. We're going to get beat in any tie breaker situation, so the Chiefs have to be clearly the worst team in the NFL to get Luck.

They are going to **** this up.

We did :(

[Baby Lee]

There is no way in hell the Chiefs can outsuck the Seahawks.

Wow!!

Lemme guess, this prediction came fresh off putting all your money in DC electrical transmission.

[oaklandhater]

at this point, I'd trade a 2nd or 3rd for Chase ****ing Daniels and i hate Chase ****ing Daniels

LMAO

[oaklandhater]

A good GM/HC would start preparing Stanzi to start the last 8 games of the year to see if he has anything in the event we don't get Luck.

But we won't do that.

Horror scenario: We go 1-15 and hold on to Cassel just in case we don't get Luck, we lose some dumb tiebreaker and draft 2nd, don't get Luck, trade down and pick up a RT, and start Cassel.

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It's like we are reliving the past