Rumors on Cassel and Haley

[Hammock Parties]

http://kan.scout.com/2/1108098.html


There were rumblings a few months ago that the organization had soured on Cassel. This week, we heard that Cassel, like his head coach Todd Haley, wasn’t getting the warm and fuzzy feeling from management AKA Chiefs general manager Scott Pioli.

Based on that, the Chiefs may already be on the Andrew Luck watch


More losses are coming. The Chiefs and their head coach, the embattled Todd Haley, are about to find out just how tight the noose gets. We’ve already heard names such as Bill Cowher, Jon Gruden and Kirk Ferentz linked to the Chiefs.

I can’t see Pioli firing Haley until he has a firm commitment that a big name coaching talent has agreed in principle to join the team in January. In the event Haley is fired midseason, we’ve been told defensive coordinator Romeo Crennel will accept a temporary coaching position for the remainder of the season .

[Demonpenz]

hell yeah I would take Romeo. We would pound the rock and play defense

[Bwana]

It starts.....

[Fritz88]

BS. Trying to bank on the mess of last night, some people will write anything.
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[suds79]

So if Todd knows he's going to get fired, why not do what we wanted to do when he had Brodie Croyle and that's play the QB you like. But Scott told him no.

What does he have to lose? Why not.

[Deberg_1990]

The Deal is Done...

[Bewbies]

hell yeah I would take Romeo. We would pound the rock and play defense

My bro in law is a Browns fan--they call Romeo "Dove Bar" and he's hated there.

[Urc Burry]

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[CaliforniaChief]

If we're going to flame out, let's flame out with glory. No changes, other than to ensure that we get Andrew Luck.

[Okie_Apparition]

Throwing out Haley with the Cassel water?
It's fail & someone needs to pay

[WV]

Oh well hell if that's what Nick the Thief heard then it's in stone...............................LOL! You may as well link to the enquirer, hell the enquirer may have better intel.

[DeezNutz]

It's pretty simple, in my view: if we continue to be ****ing embarrassed and set historic marks for ineptitude, Haley will be fired before or during the bye week. I don't think it's a given that he gets the rest of the season if the current trend continues.

[The Franchise]

So Mike Shannahan has already signed.....right?

[tk13]

Amazing thing is three weeks ago it would've been laughable to suggest Haley would be fired at all.

[Bewbies]

If the org has soured on Cassel there is reason to party.

[Mr_Tomahawk]

If we're going to flame out, let's flame out with glory. No changes, other than to ensure that we get Andrew Luck.

This...

The last thing I want (as odd as it may be) is for this team to get motivated behind an interim HC and QB to rack up 3-4 wins to get us out of the running for Luck.

Make Haley and Cassel finish the season...

[Fritz88]

It's pretty simple, in my view: if we continue to be ****ing embarrassed and set historic marks for ineptitude, Haley will be fired before or during the bye week. I don't think it's a given that he gets the rest of the season if the current trend continues.

Then let the praying begin.
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[Titty Meat]

I heard some of the same things from a pretty good source of course I didn't make a thread about it as those types of things don't go well.

[Bewbies]

I heard some of the same things from a pretty good source of course I didn't make a thread about it as those types of things don't go well.

Can you put me on your email list? LMAO

[Titty Meat]

Can you put me on your email list? LMAO

Exactly lol

[chiefzilla1501]

Sorry... but if Haley is fired, that's the front office's way of blaming other people for their mistakes. Haley can only coach what he's given. If the front office is souring on Cassel, isn't that their way of saying "we gave you the wrong pieces to work with"?

[keg in kc]

If it does happen, I hope to christ it isn't Cowher. I don't know if I could survive that.

[The Bad Guy]

Posting articles from this hack should not be allowed.

[the Talking Can]

nick athen kills babies with his face

[FringeNC]

Ferentz may work with Pioli, but the other two would not. Also, time-line doesn't make sense. Soured on Cassel a few months ago...during the middle of the summer during the lockout? And we essentially have no backup quarterback. Soured on Cassel and went into the season with Palko as #2?

[Bewbies]

Ferentz may work with Pioli, but the other two would not. Also, time-line doesn't make sense. Soured on Cassel a few months ago...during the middle of the summer during the lockout? And we essentially have no backup quarterback. Soured on Cassel and went into the season with Palko as #2?

Pioli is so smart he knew we might lose out on Luck if we have a backup QB capable of playing in high school.

[007]

I call bullshit.

[Deberg_1990]

How about Nick Saban?

[Bewbies]

How about Nick Saban?

LMAO

[milkman]

LMAO

Or Bobby Petrino.

[Deberg_1990]

Or Bobby Petrino.

haha...i only said Saban because hes from the tree.

[BossChief]

Ferentz always said he wanted to stay at Iowa till his son graduates and this is his last year.

I dont know how the contract part would work out, though.

Ferentz is signed to coach Iowa till 2020.

I am a big Haley fan and think firing him while sticking with Cassel would be a gigantic mistake.

They need to prep Stanzi to start after the bye and draft Luck.

[tecumseh]

I don' t believe this is the thinking in the FO. Regardless of the poor play, the season is still young AND no one at that level wants to admit they are wrong. Perhaps we revisit this in November.

[Ace Gunner]

If the org has soured on Cassel there is reason to party.

how can they not be? he plays like drying paint.

[Urc Burry]

If we really do land #1, I think we will pretty much have our choice at who we want at head coach

[FloridaMan88]

Ferentz always said he wanted to stay at Iowa till his son graduates and this is his last year.

I dont know how the contract part would work out, though.

Ferentz is signed to coach Iowa till 2020.

I am a big Haley fan and think firing him while sticking with Cassel would be a gigantic mistake.

They need to prep Stanzi to start after the bye and draft Luck.

Yeah Ferentz and Stanzi... there is a future we can all look forward to... NOT.

Ferentz is an average college coach... at best. Whenever Iowa has an ounce of expectations his teams usually choke.

[milkman]

If we really do land #1, I think we will pretty much have our choice at who we want at head coach

Let's trade Haley for Harbaugh.

[Bewbies]

how can they not be? he plays like drying paint.

No way, paint drying is something you can count on. There's no counting on Matt Cassel.

[tecumseh]

Haley's a head case. Hence, the revolving door at OC.

[tk13]

Guys, guys, guys. You're all missing the key word...

PARCELLS.

:)

[chasedude]

Here we go...

[orange]

http://www.kansascity.com/2011/09/18/3150813/poll-who-should-take-blame-for.html

If this isn't an opening for Haley to be the fall guy, I don't what is.

[CaliforniaChief]

Wait and see if anyone loses a starting QB. Trade Cassel for a mid-late round pick and start Dick Stanzi for the rest of the year.

If we start winning, then maybe we've got our guy.
If we don't, then we know we'll get our guy.

[FringeNC]

I don' t believe this is the thinking in the FO. Regardless of the poor play, the season is still young AND no one at that level wants to admit they are wrong. Perhaps we revisit this in November.

You'd think, but there is just too much chatter coming from guys like Schefter and Harlan about problems within organization. Haley's gone and he knows it. Very strange, given our playoff berth last year for there to be problems in the offseason between Haley and Pioli.

[mcaj22]

Cassel will be in Seattle next year with his college coach

[Trevo_410]

http://www.nflpassers.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/joshmcdaniels4.jpg

[Ace Gunner]

This is on the owner.

[Mr_Tomahawk]

http://www.cbc.ca/gfx/images/sports/photos/2010/11/15/haley-finger-ap.jpg

[Bewbies]

If we ended up with McDouchebag I'd LMAO .....

Maybe, maybe, if he had absolutely no juice on roster moves, but still probably not even then.

[milkman]

If we ended up with McDouchebag I'd LMAO .....

Maybe, maybe, if he had absolutely no juice on roster moves, but still probably not even then.

Sadly, it sounds exactly like something Pioli would do.

[dj56dt58]

If the org has soured on Cassel there is reason to party.

possibly, have having a GM that controls the head coach and uses him as a scapegoat sounds pretty familiar

[BossChief]

It's pretty simple, in my view: if we continue to be ****ing embarrassed and set historic marks for ineptitude, Haley will be fired before or during the bye week. I don't think it's a given that he gets the rest of the season if the current trend continues.
Sadly, I agree.

Even though I think Cassel is the root of all the problems for KC.
Sadly, it sounds exactly like something Pioli would do.

Im not sure if I should want to kick puppies or what.

It would be a "please save me from looking like a fool with this Cassel stuff, PLEASE"

[chief4life]

It's pretty simple, in my view: if we continue to be ****ing embarrassed and set historic marks for ineptitude, Haley will be fired before or during the bye week. I don't think it's a given that he gets the rest of the season if the current trend continues.

I think you are right here and have you already seen the point spread for next weeks game 15. That tells you everything this thing is a sinking ship and we are going to go get blasted next week. I hope people don't show up to the game vs the Vikings and set a standard that we aren't going to watch crap. They need to put Stanzi in and see what he can do if they keep losing the way i predict they will. Just like everyone on this board i am a huge chiefs fan and it pains me to say that i might not watch another game this year. You were all right about Cassel he isn't the answer and ill eat crow for that. But i think Haley is gone and we are now a strong player in the Luck sweepstakes. I hate to say this but i want them to lose and keep losing and draft him.

[DeezNutz]

Sadly, I agree.

Even though I think Cassel is the root of all the problems for KC.


Im not sure if I should want to kick puppies or what.

It would be a "please save me from looking like a fool with this Cassel stuff, PLEASE"

Can't be the root because he didn't trade for himself.

[whoman69]

If Haley wants to keep his job, the only way he can do that is to cut bait and demote Check Down no matter what the GM says.

% chance that Haley gets fired if he sticks with Check Down- 100
% chance that Haley gets fired with someone else behind center- less than 100

[Ace Gunner]

Can't be the root because he didn't trade for himself.

well, let's see.. what were the choices at the time. Brady Quinn? Thigpen?

[whoman69]

Sadly, I agree.

Even though I think Cassel is the root of all the problems for KC.


Im not sure if I should want to kick puppies or what.

It would be a "please save me from looking like a fool with this Cassel stuff, PLEASE"

He's not the root of all problems. There are obvious holes on D and with the o-line, but he is not part of the solution.

[DeezNutz]

well, let's see.. what were the choices at the time. Brady Quinn? Thigpen?

There was a draft that year, too.

Thigpen would have simply been a less expensive Cassel, so he definitely should have been viewed as a viable option. If you're going to be shitty, at least don't overspend for it.

[Otter]

Pioli isn't a knee jerk reaction kind of guy.

It's gonna be suck and lots of with no changes until the end of the season if it evens happens then. Get used to it and hope your fantasy football team does good.

If what I'm reading about Haley driving off Weis is true he's been taken down a couple notches. Gotta read into that more.

[Ace Gunner]

they scored like 1 point the last 10 games. Cassel is the problem much more than anyone else. No guts, no glory. He's pathetic.

[BigMeatballDave]

He's not the root of all problems. There are obvious holes on D and with the o-line, but he is not part of the solution.He is. No fucking way does Buffalo and Detroit put up near that many points if we have a good QB.

Look at all the yardage the Packers D is giving up.

Look at who they have at QB.

Point is, regardless of what other phases of your team is doing, as long as you can put up points, you can win. That goes back to the QB position.

Its not easy for a D to overcome 6 turnovers and a completely ineffective QB.

[BigMeatballDave]

Pioli isn't a knee jerk reaction kind of guy.

It's gonna be suck and lots of with no changes until the end of the season if it evens happens then. Get used to it and hope your fantasy football team does good.

If what I'm reading about Haley driving off Weis is true he's been taken down a couple notches. Gotta read into that more.If Haley is fired, so be it. Milkman has mentioned this several times, and I whole-heartedly agree. It is the Coordinators and other coaches job to conform with the HC. Period. Get on board or get the fuck out.

[Bewbies]

Sadly, it sounds exactly like something Pioli would do.

Yep. Hopefully the move would resemble ol Billy's disaster in Cleveland turning into gold in NE (since we'd have the key to the patriot way, a franchise QB).

[kcxiv]

He is. No ****ing way does Buffalo and Detroit put up near that many points if we have a good QB.

Look at all the yardage the Packers D is giving up.

Look at who they have at QB.

Point is, regardless of what other phases of your team is doing, as long as you can put up points, you can win. That goes back to the QB position.

Its not easy for a D to overcome 6 turnovers and a completely ineffective QB.

Sadly there are alot of people that dont see it like that and refuse to see it like that.

FOOTBALL all starts with the QB. IF you dont have a qb you got nothing. ITs very very very very very rare that something special like a SB happens without won. Year in and year out, elite qb's are playing for the Lombardi.

[Molitoth]

Year in and year out, elite qb's are playing for the Lombardi.

but but but but Cassel made the pro bowl last season, he is ELITE.

[burt]

LMAObut but but but Cassel made the pro bowl last season, he is ELITE.

LMAOLMAO

[burt]

We can all wish, want, and speculate all we want, but as far as the OP, let's consider the source.

[Pioli Zombie]

Casey Anthony couldn't have run a 10-6 team into the toilet like Haley has.

[Okie_Apparition]

Back to back winning seasons died when Green got the concussion. Since then it's been untalented QBs & loosing. Thigpen still has fans :facepalm: Grbac was even talented. Cassel is trash

[Pioli Zombie]

Haley has turned to Willie Aames for advice on selling his home.

[rocknrolla]

If we get blown out on our 3 prime time games, no one will get fired? I don't think so.

[chiefzilla1501]

Casey Anthony couldn't have run a 10-6 team into the toilet like Haley has.

Yes, because this is all on Haley.

Great teams overcome injury. You know why? Because they have great QBs that can win regardless of who you put around them. Cassel struggles even when you put guys around him.

[Pioli Zombie]

Paoli should go into Haley's office, pull down his pants, shit on his floor, and say "that's you"

[NJChiefsFan]

If we get blown out on our 3 prime time games, no one will get fired? I don't think so.

Speaking of that, nobody will take us on prime time for a decade after this year just as punishment. Another good season and they will fear this again. Luck is probably the only thing that could negate that.

[Pioli Zombie]

Yes, because this is all on Haley.

Great teams overcome injury. You know why? Because they have great QBs that can win regardless of who you put around them. Cassel struggles even when you put guys around him.
Cassel sucks shit too. He and Haley should both be on the next train to fuck you.

[rocknrolla]

Speaking of that, nobody will take us on prime time for a decade after this year just as punishment. Another good season and they will fear this again. Luck is probably the only thing that could negate that.

I totally agree.

[Pioli Zombie]

Erin Andrews says "Cassel sucks more than I do"

[tk13]

If our secondary doesn't wake up between now and these primetime games, Brady is going to throw for 600 yards against us on national TV.

[rocknrolla]

If our secondary doesn't wake up between now and these primetime games, Brady is going to throw for 600 yards against us on national TV.

Try 1000 yards.

[NJChiefsFan]

Maybe Bill would take it easy on Pioli.

[Pioli Zombie]

The Chiefs should no problem stopping the Patriots TE's because that's a strength of the Chiefs defense,right? Right?

[aturnis]

Ferentz won't be leaving Iowa this year. His son is a junior on the team. He also has a 16 yr. old. Pretty sure he'll stay around Iowa City.

[Pioli Zombie]

After the game in the locker room Cassel threw out a challenge to his teammates but it was batted in the air and intercepted.

[NJChiefsFan]

After the game in the locker room Cassel threw out a challenge to his teammates but it was batted in the air and intercepted.

And then fumbled by Mcgraw right?

[Okie_Apparition]

Katie Horner looked into his eyes while he was storming around on the sideline. She just yawned & walked away

[Pioli Zombie]

Fat Bastard. "Ya know when ya go into an apartment building and someones cookie something and ya go what's that? That plus Cassel!"

[BryanBusby]

Ferentz won't be leaving Iowa this year. His son is a junior on the team. He also has a 16 yr. old. Pretty sure he'll stay around Iowa City.

I don't see him leaving Iowa either. He's getting good pay and has a lot more stability in Iowa City than he'd ever have in Kansas City.

[Pioli Zombie]

Michelle Bachmann is Haley in drag. I think they are the same person and that cunt is coaching the Chiefs.

[The Franchise]

I'll take Rob Ryan.

[Predarat]

Pioli, Haley and Castle need to get into a gunfight like the one at the end of Reservoir Dogs where they all end up killing each other to death.

[EyePod]

The Deal is Done...

Hahaha. Gotta give him credit where credit is due. Nick Athan has heart. But you could see how useless that was with the little Indian guy from Captain Planet.

[Red Dawg]

I forgot about Zorn. We need to start a thread slamming his ass.


GREAT JOB MUTHAA FUGGERR!

[EyePod]

And then fumbled by Mcgraw right?

McGraw can't even tell when he's supposed to be on the field.

GET BACK ON DEFENSE WHERE YOU CAN FUMBLE AND NOT MAKE INTERCEPTIONS OR TACKLE.

[PhillyChiefFan]

McGraw can't even tell when he's supposed to be on the field.

GET BACK ON DEFENSE WHERE YOU CAN FUMBLE AND NOT MAKE INTERCEPTIONS OR TACKLE.

Yea, he is just god awful. I seriously cannot believe we didn't bring in Sharper. How much worse could Sharper POSSIBLY be...

[Marcellus]

Getting piss pounded in the first 2 games is bad.

Losing 3 of our best players is bad.

Having to put up with constant BS like this being posted all ****ing season by Claython is possibly the worst part of it all. We have our own troll with 150,000 posts.

[InChiefsHeaven]

I miss Jerrod Paige and Bernard Pollard when I watch McGraw play...

[TEX]

Whatever - Who hired Haley?

[TEX]

I miss Jerrod Paige and Bernard Pollard when I watch McGraw play...


:clap:

[Rausch]

I would JIMP if we got Cowher or Chucky...

[Dave Lane]

I don' t believe this is the thinking in the FO. Regardless of the poor play, the season is still young AND no one at that level wants to admit they are wrong. Perhaps we revisit this in November.

I basically agree here. If everyone continues to drop 50 on us then yes Haley is in jeopardy. I re-watched the beginning of the game and we were moving the ball the game was competitive until the missed field at the end of the first quarter. With Charles down and both kickers looking horrible its like they let the air out of the tires.

Then 6 turnovers later...

[TEX]

I basically agree here. If everyone continues to drop 50 on us then yes Haley is in jeopardy. I re-watched the beginning of the game and we were moving the ball the game was competitive until the missed field at the end of the first quarter. With Charles down and both kickers looking horrible its like they let the air out of the tires.

Then 6 turnovers later...

Yep. Also all the early penalities really helped extend scoring drives for Detroit. I was surprised they were "only" down 17-3 right before half.

[Reerun_KC]

All this Bill Cowher talk just makes my stomach turn...

[loochy]

I would JIMP if we got Cowher or Chucky...

Chucky ftw

[ChiTown]

Make it happen. MAKE IT FUCKING HAPPEN ALREADY!

[NJChiefsFan]

Yep. Also all the early penalities really helped extend scoring drives for Detroit. I was surprised they were "only" down 17-3 right before half.

Yeah the first quarter didn't look to bad all things considered. That being said, shit happens and if you can't adjust then you just aren't good enough. Hell, all teams have rough points or bad breaks, they don't lose by 30+ 2 straight games.

[The Franchise]

Please God....no Cowher or Gruden.

[bowener]

Please God....no Cowher or Gruden.

x2

[corandval]

No Cowher or Gruden, I want Rob Ryan and Andrew Luck!!

[the Talking Can]

any 'rumor' that mentions 'Bill Cowher, Jon Gruden and Kirk Ferentz' isn't a rumor, it's a repost of a repost..

[Epic Fail 007]

Ferentz always said he wanted to stay at Iowa till his son graduates and this is his last year.

I dont know how the contract part would work out, though.

Ferentz is signed to coach Iowa till 2020.

I am a big Haley fan and think firing him while sticking with Cassel would be a gigantic mistake.

They need to prep Stanzi to start after the bye and draft Luck.

lol why prep stanzi if u wanna draft luck make no sense btw people luck is no sure thing he has david carr written all over him,so what being a standout against low level schools makes u nfl ready.......i think not

[Iowanian]

What's sad......


Well I'll tell you.

We'll listen to these rumors all year through a dismal season. At the end of this season, Haley will be fired and Cassel will either be cut or will redo his contract. The Chiefs have the number 1 pick in the draft, trade down to #3 and take the 5th rated Left OT.

[Chiefs Pantalones]

What's sad......


Well I'll tell you.

We'll listen to these rumors all year through a dismal season. At the end of this season, Haley will be fired and Cassel will either be cut or will redo his contract. The Chiefs have the number 1 pick in the draft, trade down to #3 and take the 5th rated Left OT.

Or win enough games to drop to the sixth pick and take Justin Blackmon because once again it's not Cassel it's the players, or lack thereof, around him.

[Omaha]

hell yeah I would take Romeo. We would pound the rock and play defense

Hmmm... why are they currently not playing defense, then?

[King_Chief_Fan]

BS. Trying to bank on the mess of last night, some people will write anything.
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yes

[Chief3188]

lol why prep stanzi if u wanna draft luck make no sense btw people luck is no sure thing he has david carr written all over him,so what being a standout against low level schools makes u nfl ready.......i think not

That would be exactly why you would prep Stanzi is because no rookie QB is a sure thing. We can double our odds by letting Stanzi and Luck battle it out. We are in stand still waiting for the real guy mode every single minute that Cassel plays.

[Tribal Warfare]

]lol why prep stanzi if u wanna draft luck make no sense btw[/B] people luck is no sure thing he has david carr written all over him,so what being a standout against low level schools makes u nfl ready.......i think not

buy low sell high, GB made their franchise that way in the 90's, which is a big reason why Favre never missed a game because of Brunell was in the wings. Which is why it's good to be two deep at QB position

[Chief3188]

Please God....no Cowher or Gruden.

Agreed. If we decide to give up on Haley then the last thing I want is another retread. We had the right idea of getting a young first time HC. Haley is still in the wait and see period of his tenure here and I think last season should have bought him some points and the mess with the lockout should have as well but this team right now is looking worse than even our 2008 team and nothing that bad can be allowed to survive.

[Ace Gunner]

Watching the post game presser now. Haley says he's going to make "big changes this week" and I really think he's going to tell Cassel to siddown.

[SuperChief]

Thinking about Luck and Stanzi battling for the starting job = six to midnight.

[jd1020]

Watching the post game presser now. Haley says he's going to make "big changes this week" and I really think he's going to tell Cassel to siddown.

That kind of thinking will lead to a headache because its not going to happen this soon. His big change will probably be taking over play calling and having the same success as Muir because they are both idiots.

Cassel wont be benched until after the BYE.

[Crush]

ROFL

Make Jon Baldwin team captain and in charge of all locker room confrontations.

[Tribal Warfare]

Watching the post game presser now. Haley says he's going to make "big changes this week" and I really think he's going to tell Cassel to siddown.

I'm not busting out the Jergens just yet

[pagriep]

Pretty sad that the season has come to this. I thought that an 8-8 finish would have been a disappointment but understandable...considering the increased difficulty of the schedule.

0-16 could actually happen. I don't blame the problem on injuries. McGraw did fairly well considering the shoes he tried to fill. It comes down to coaching and preparation. I don't know what is going on. This is awful.

Green Bay is a small market that constantly wins. We should look at their example and model. We don't have to suck.

[HemiEd]

Posting articles from this hack should not be allowed.

No kidding, he is just throwing more shit against the wall to see if someone will pay for it.

[4th and Long]

No kidding, he is just throwing more shit against the wall to see if someone will pay for it.
http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSUmkKYffOWtTjgQOITg4DL87LCdpdtHqAa58Rwv88z1ROUMXZ36lj0up4K
That.

Clay likes to burn both ends of the match.

Luckily, no one here is dumb enough to pay for that kind of 'premium content."

[Calcountry]

Amazing thing is three weeks ago it would've been laughable to suggest Haley would be fired at all.This team is laughable, top to bottom.

[Hammock Parties]

Haha. There is basically no premium content on the site right now. I posted this just to spread the rumors and read all of your reactions.

[FAX]

Without reading the entire thread, I would like to give a great big shout out to Aunt Wilma who predicted that Matt Cassel would become the most hated man in the entire Midwest before striking Uncle Merris betwixt the eyebrows with a wooden soup spoon.

I don't see how anybody could be pissed off at Haley. Sure, his approach to the game is ... different. Sure, he takes calculated risks. Sure, he has no clear idea how to shave or comb his hair, but he took over a giant pile of crap and turned it into something better.

He can't win with Cassel. We know it and he knows it. The fact is that nobody can or could (except for the Pats who had an entire system and team established before they called his number). I have no doubt in my mind that he despises Cassel and would rather drink opossum urine than suit him up. Cassel is Pioli's problem ... not Haley's.

FAX THE SENSIBLE

[Mi_chief_fan]

Thinking about Luck and Stanzi battling for the starting job = six to midnight.

I'm afraid it wouldn't be much of a battle.

[talastan]

Without reading the entire thread, I would like to give a great big shout out to Aunt Wilma who predicted that Matt Cassel would become the most hated man in the entire Midwest before striking Uncle Merris betwixt the eyebrows with a wooden soup spoon.

I don't see how anybody could be pissed off at Haley. Sure, his approach to the game is ... different. Sure, he takes calculated risks. Sure, he has no clear idea how to shave or comb his hair, but he took over a giant pile of crap and turned it into something better.

He can't win with Cassel. We know it and he knows it. The fact is that nobody can or could (except for the Pats who had an entire system and team established before they called his number). I have no doubt in my mind that he despises Cassel and would rather drink opossum urine than suit him up. Cassel is Pioli's problem ... not Haley's.

FAX THE SENSIBLE

This is why you are one of my Planet mentors Mr. FAX!!! I really would like to see Haley's downfield attacking scheme with a QB who can actually throw the ball downfield.

[4th and Long]

FAX THE SENSIBLE
Do you know where you are?

We'll have NONE of that sensible talk around here, mister!

[MahiMike]

Let's trade Haley for Harbaugh.

Yeah, I was wondering if there was a 3rd Harbaugh...

[aturnis]

That kind of thinking will lead to a headache because its not going to happen this soon. His big change will probably be taking over play calling and having the same success as Muir because they are both idiots.

Cassel wont be benched until after the BYE.

Hopefully you are wrong. If the Chiefs keep losing like they have, Haley won't be here after the bye week. You'd think desperation would set in before that.

[whoman69]

Yeah, I was wondering if there was a 3rd Harbaugh...

Both Harbaughs lost yesterday, the Ravens getting blown out and 49ers losing a lead.

[Bugeater]

Without reading the entire thread, I would like to give a great big shout out to Aunt Wilma who predicted that Matt Cassel would become the most hated man in the entire Midwest before striking Uncle Merris betwixt the eyebrows with a wooden soup spoon.

I don't see how anybody could be pissed off at Haley. Sure, his approach to the game is ... different. Sure, he takes calculated risks. Sure, he has no clear idea how to shave or comb his hair, but he took over a giant pile of crap and turned it into something better.

He can't win with Cassel. We know it and he knows it. The fact is that nobody can or could (except for the Pats who had an entire system and team established before they called his number). I have no doubt in my mind that he despises Cassel and would rather drink opossum urine than suit him up. Cassel is Pioli's problem ... not Haley's.

FAX THE SENSIBLE
Wrong. Pioli's job isn't on the line because of Cassel. Haley's very likely is.

[Frosty]

Wrong. Pioli's job isn't on the line because of Cassel. Haley's very likely is.

Which is entirely backwards.

[TEX]

Without reading the entire thread, I would like to give a great big shout out to Aunt Wilma who predicted that Matt Cassel would become the most hated man in the entire Midwest before striking Uncle Merris betwixt the eyebrows with a wooden soup spoon.

I don't see how anybody could be pissed off at Haley. Sure, his approach to the game is ... different. Sure, he takes calculated risks. Sure, he has no clear idea how to shave or comb his hair, but he took over a giant pile of crap and turned it into something better.

He can't win with Cassel. We know it and he knows it. The fact is that nobody can or could (except for the Pats who had an entire system and team established before they called his number). I have no doubt in my mind that he despises Cassel and would rather drink opossum urine than suit him up. Cassel is Pioli's problem ... not Haley's.

FAX THE SENSIBLE

I agree except Cassel is Haley's problem now. GM's get to pass the buck.

[Ace Gunner]

Haha. There is basically no premium content on the site right now. I posted this just to spread the rumors and read all of your reactions.

QFT

[LiveSteam]

Nick Athens of Warpaint.Com was just interviewed on 1620 Omaha.
He said Haley will be fired during the by week.
He went to talk about how hard the Chiefs are scouting Luck, the demise of Haley after he took away the play calling from Charlie. The risk KC took after the lock out was over. How they are not in condition,prepared,ect
40+ million under the cap, & how he hopes John Gruden is named head coach next year.
He named many coaches from Iowa's head coach to the Ravens old coach Billick.

[Bugeater]

Nick Athens of Warpaint.Com was just interviewed on 1620 Omaha.
He said Haley will be fired during the by week.
LMAO

[LiveSteam]

LMAO

Why is that funny? I have know idea who the guy was they interviewed

I think I better leave the KC meltdown alone

[Fish]

Nick Athens of Warpaint.Com was just interviewed on 1620 Omaha.
He said Haley will be fired during the by week.
He went to talk about how hard the Chiefs are scouting Luck, the demise of Haley after he took away the play calling from Charlie. The risk KC took after the lock out was over. How they are not in condition,prepared,ect
40+ million under the cap, & how he hopes John Gruden is named head coach next year.
He named many coaches from Iowa's head coach to the Ravens old coach Billick.

LMAO... this is getting good now....

[LiveSteam]

HE also went on to say how much he loves Chiefs Planet.

[FAX]

Wrong. Pioli's job isn't on the line because of Cassel. Haley's very likely is.

Oh, I'm not saying that Haley won't or even might not fall on the sword Cassel calls his penis. He very well may.

What I'm saying is that, if he does, it would be patently unfair. Cassel is dysfunction incarnate. The problem here isn't Haley's ability to HC an NFL team, it's Haley's ability to HC an NFL team with Cassel at the helm.

Honestly, unless you're the NE Patriots with an established, entrenched, solid, successful team (O, D, and STs), Cassel brings little or nothing to the table.

In fact (and at the risk of sounding too much like Mr. milkman), I said it at the time; franchising Cassel was one of the shrewdest personnel moves Wild Bill (or anybody) ever made. It created the impression that Cassel was the real deal and elevated his "perceived" value across the league as a legitimate quarterback. That, my friend, is the myth of Cassel. When, in actuality, Bill stuck it to his old padna like a Navy Seal's schlong in a Chinese lesbian's patoot.

FAX

[whoman69]

Well if Nick says it...

[BryanBusby]

Nick Athens of Warpaint.Com was just interviewed on 1620 Omaha.
He said Haley will be fired during the by week.
He went to talk about how hard the Chiefs are scouting Luck, the demise of Haley after he took away the play calling from Charlie. The risk KC took after the lock out was over. How they are not in condition,prepared,ect
40+ million under the cap, & how he hopes John Gruden is named head coach next year.
He named many coaches from Iowa's head coach to the Ravens old coach Billick.

So that really means Todds job is safe and they are going to draft Kalil.

[whoman69]

I agree except Cassel is Haley's problem now. GM's get to pass the buck.

Until owners fire them. Either way, a new GM would want his pick in there.

[crispystl]

[QUOTE=Mi_chief_fan;7924945]I'm afraid it wouldn't be much of a battle.[/QU

Uhh yeah that would be like me against the T1000 in a prison cell death match.

[Ace Gunner]

Nick Athens of Warpaint.Com was just interviewed on 1620 Omaha.
He said Haley will be fired during the by week.
He went to talk about how hard the Chiefs are scouting Luck, the demise of Haley after he took away the play calling from Charlie. The risk KC took after the lock out was over. How they are not in condition,prepared,ect
40+ million under the cap, & how he hopes John Gruden is named head coach next year.
He named many coaches from Iowa's head coach to the Ravens old coach Billick.

QFL(unacy)

[bevischief]

He is hurt worse than they let on. Unless it is bad luck...

[Okie_Apparition]

One of the Chiefs biggest weaknesses for years has been the QB & people want Cowher or Gruden. I don't even...

[BigMeatballDave]

One of the Chiefs biggest weaknesses for years has been the QB & people want Cowher or Gruden. I don't even...

No joke. I don't even want a coach who thinks he can win with Cordell fucking Stewart

[Okie_Apparition]

I wish I could remember what a bragging Steeler troll here had nicknamed Tommy Mattox. It was priceless

[GloryDayz]

A lynching.... I'll pop some popcorn!!

[BigMeatballDave]

I wish I could remember what a bragging Steeler troll here had nicknamed Tommy Mattox. It was priceless

STEELMENARECOMING or some shit like that.

Edit: oh, I don't remember the nickname. I misread your post

[ChiefsCountry]

Please know retread coaches espeically ones that won Super Bowls, bc they don't do it in their next stop. Its like trading for backup QBs to be your starting QB. Dumb ideas.

[loce1959]

Cassel will be in Seattle next year with his college coach

:banghead:We can only hope......

[milkman]

:banghead:We can only hope......

Why would Pete Carrol want Matt Cassel?

Even he wasn't stupid enough to start him at USC.

[aturnis]

Why would Pete Carrol want Matt Cassel?

Even he wasn't stupid enough to start him at USC.

Nice...I wish I could have said that.