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gblowfish
11-06-2011, 09:12 PM
Ten Things About Today's Game

10.If you ever needed a textbook definition of the term "Trap Game," today would be it. The whole rhythm of the day seemed off. Maybe it was the hangover from Monday Night Football. Maybe it was the time change. Maybe it was knowing the team coming in to Arrowhead was a big donut hole for seven on the season. In any event, the Chiefs looked like the winless team today, and Miami looked like they had everything to play for. The Fish hustled, hit big plays, didn't make a lot of stupid mistakes, played well in all phases; in short, they deserved to win. Congrats to them on a game well played and for getting off the donut.

9. If you look at the game stats without seeing the score, you'd think it was a closer contest. KC won several key stats: Chiefs had more first downs; Chiefs were better on third down conversions; Chiefs ran more plays (78 to 47); Chiefs had more yards rushing and passing, and won time of possession 35 minutes to 25 minutes. Stats that tell the true story: KC's average pass play: 5.2 yards (the Duke of Dink strikes again). Miami's average pass play: 10.6 yards. Forced turnovers: zero for both teams. The biggest stats, Sacks: Miami had five, Chiefs zero. Penalties: Chiefs 8 for 70, Fish 7 for 49. TDs: Chiefs zip, Fish four. KC actually had the lead in this game 3-0 early. Whoda thunk that would be all the points Cassel could generate against a winless team? I know, 90% of you....

8. I was debating in my mind tonight who played worse, offense or defense? That's a hard call, because I can make a case both ways.
Let's start with offense. Three points at home against a winless team? The offense looked every bit as bad today as they did against Detroit in week two. I'd have to go back and look at the tape, but how many times were the Chiefs in 2nd and 10 (or longer) today? Seems like Cassel could never get any kind of positive yards on first down, save for the first drive of the game. Which also begs a question, what happened to the game plan? The first drive was a good drive. It ate lots of clock, had good balance between run and pass, ball was spread around to several guys. It seemed like once the Fish got up 14-3,the offense lost all its composure and went into panic mode. I'd like to say this team isn't a come from behind bunch, but as the Fish stretched their lead I kept thinking about the Colts game. I was hoping they'd come out on fire in the second half. Instead, we got the version of Chiefs from the Bills and Lions games. Nada. Nothing. Goose Egg. Disaster. At least they should have gone into hurry up mode around the time it was 21-3. No dice.

7. Thomas Jones is cooked. He's done. They should release him and pick up the best back off somebody's practice squad. Today's line? Three carries for five yards. And he gained those five yards on one of the three carries. He's gassed, and he's not helping this team win. You would think if he had anything at all left in the tank, he would have gotten ten or more carries today. Instead Battle got fourteen touches for 40 yards, and the second leading rusher was Cassel running for his life, nine carries for 38 yards. You know it's a bad day for your O-line when a QB like Cassel has nine carries.

6. Was the defense the worst of the two? I can make a case for that too. What happened to Tamba Hali? I'll tell you what happened, Jake Long happened. Dude showed why he was the very first pick in the 2008 NFL draft. He stoned Hali. Just stoned him. The times Hali did manage to clear Long's block, the Fish had a back in protection to double team him. So, I'm thinking to myself around the middle of the third quarter, why doesn't Romeo start to bring Houston, or a corner on a blitz? Why Not is because our safety and nickel situation sucks. We're already weak with Berry out. Arenas and McGraw were both out from injuries suffered in the Monday night game. Lewis was dinged up and ended up coming out of the game for good in fourth quarter. What's left? The unholy foursome of Brown (a clueless rookie), Washington (a poor cover guy), Daniels (another poor cover guy) and Slappy Pisctachio, who is perhaps the worst player on any 53 man NFL roster. How can you blitz either Flowers or Carr with these boneheads in the secondary? On the flip side, Miami blitzed all day long. Cassel was confused and threw short of the sticks on third and long time and time again.

5. The Fish were bombs away right from the get-go. You had to admire their approach to the game. They came out saying "Screw you, we're going to throw the ball until you stop us." We stopped them a few times, but not often enough. Once the defense started to wear down in the second half, Miami started running the ball, and Reggie Bush ended up just shy of 100 yards. He averaged over seven yards per carry. Their special teams did a good job as well. Dexter "McNuthin" hasn't broke a single kick this year. I thought the punt that pinned the Chiefs inside the five was a big turning point. Miami flipped the field quickly, and the great field position helped set them up for the go-ahead TD. Chiefs seemed to be playing catch up ball all day after that point. The actual punting battle was fairly even, both teams punted five times for around a 45 yard average.

4, In the third quarter, another big turning point when Gafford one-hopped the snap on a 52-yard field goal attempt. 52 yards is on the outside limits of Succop's range, but certainly do-able. Instead, the Chiefs muff the spot (I admit, I like saying "muff the spot") and the Fish drove for their third TD, with Marshall beating Carr and Lewis to the corner. I also think Cassel missing Bowe on the 4th and one play to start the fourth quarter pretty much put the nail in the coffin for the day. All the offensive stats after that were nothing but garbage time, and made Cassel's daily stats look better than how he actually played. When it counted today, he was woeful.

3. In honor of Andy Rooney (doing my best Andy Rooney impression): "You know what really bothers me? I'll tell you what bothers me. The Chiefs have two first round draft choices on the defensive line: Glenn Dorsey, who was the fifth overall pick in the 2008 NFL draft; and Tyson Jackson, who was the third overall pick in the 2009 NFL draft. Those are high picks. The kind of picks most teams use on running backs, or quarterbacks; guys that are called "franchise players." You would think two defensive line picks, selected that high in each round, would be stalwarts on the defense. You would think they would never come off the field unless injured. Wouldn't you think that? I would think that. But truth is, on third down passing situations, not just one, but both of these expensive, high draft picks are pulled off the field by Chiefs Defensive Coordinator Romeo Crennel and replaced with guys like Wallace Gilberry and Amon Gordon. Who? And more importantly, why? Here's why. Because neither Dorsey or Jackson is any good at rushing a quarterback. That seems like a pretty important quality to have for a first round defensive pick. And the Chiefs made that kind of pick not just once, but twice in a row. You would think they'd have buyer's remorse. Or at least, never draft another defensive lineman from LSU ever again."

2. After the game, in the Haley presser, the soon to be clean-shaven Toddster kept delivering the same old same old coach-speak that he usually serves up. The infamous "we're a work in progress" and " we're getting ready to start a new quarter," etc. His team sucked in all aspects today. They were out played, out hustled, out coached in their home stadium, with the AFC West lead on the table. He didn't criticize his team at all. He basically said "Oh well, it was a short week, we'll play better, time to get ready for Denver." Look, realistically, this team should be 3-5 instead of 4-4. It's pretty obvious this is a very flawed team in a very weak division. Whoever wins the AFC West will get their clock cleaned in the first round of the playoffs. Today's effort was a mail in, just a paycheck, and that's a shame. I had hoped these guys were beyond that now, but apparently not.

1. Despite how maddening and frustrating this day was, all is not lost. The Faiders and Bolts both lost, and since Denver won today, maybe they'll not be as focused for KC next week. Hopefully the team will get it's collective act together and have a little "Come to Jesus" meeting in store for Tim Tebow. Things will not get easier with the Pack, Bears, Jets and Steelers looming on the horizon, so we have to make hay while we can. One last thing. It was Veterans Appreciation Day at Arrowhead. At halftime they had a beautiful surprise family reunion for an Iraq vet. It was very touching. They also showed a tribute in pictures to many of the men and women from Missouri and Kansas that have died in Iraq and Afghanistan. The dead came from everywhere we come from: KC, Columbia, St. Joe, Topeka, Manhattan, Wichita, on and on and on. There were dozens of them. After watching that, it made the second half of the game seem pretty meaningless, or at least it put into perspective what truly is a life and death matter. War is a life and death matter, football is not.

Thank you to all the veterans, past and current, for having our backs.

OnTheWarpath15
11-06-2011, 09:26 PM
Speaking of hangovers...

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/311987_286806358008949_116476271708626_1001087_1379257214_n.jpg

No idea of the validity of this, but sure is interesting. Looks like it was tweeted around 10:30 this morning.

HonestChieffan
11-06-2011, 09:28 PM
well done

FAX
11-06-2011, 09:33 PM
Speaking of hangovers...

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/311987_286806358008949_116476271708626_1001087_1379257214_n.jpg

No idea of the validity of this, but sure is interesting. Looks like it was tweeted around 10:30 this morning.

Wow. If that's real, Haley should kick some ass and hard.

I hope that's not true.

FAX

otherstar
11-06-2011, 09:33 PM
Very well said. You always manage to put things into perspective.

Simply Red
11-06-2011, 09:34 PM
Speaking of hangovers...

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/311987_286806358008949_116476271708626_1001087_1379257214_n.jpg

No idea of the validity of this, but sure is interesting. Looks like it was tweeted around 10:30 this morning.

They should've just went ahead and did coke too, that way they'd at least have play focused.

FAX
11-06-2011, 09:38 PM
I don't know which thread this is, but the Ravens' o-line makes actual block things. It's wild.

FAX

stevieray
11-06-2011, 09:41 PM
BRAVO

Reaper16
11-06-2011, 09:41 PM
Speaking of hangovers...

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/311987_286806358008949_116476271708626_1001087_1379257214_n.jpg

No idea of the validity of this, but sure is interesting. Looks like it was tweeted around 10:30 this morning.
I don't think Mac is one to lie about that kinda' thing. He's a straightforward, down-to-earth guy.

OnTheWarpath15
11-06-2011, 09:45 PM
I don't think Mac is one to lie about that kinda' thing. He's a straightforward, down-to-earth guy.

Then Beardmaster, we have a problem.

Discuss Thrower
11-06-2011, 09:45 PM
Colquitt said in post game interview that the intended play was a Succop pooch punt that only he knew about due to miscommunication.

FAX
11-06-2011, 09:46 PM
Then Beardmaster, we have a problem.

Big time.

I would like to know which players committed this unpardonable sin.

FAX

ChiefsCountry
11-06-2011, 09:46 PM
This game sure did have the same vibe as the Pittsburgh Sex Toy Convention Game.

OnTheWarpath15
11-06-2011, 09:46 PM
Colquitt said in post game interview that the intended play was a Succop pooch punt that only he knew about due to miscommunication.

Would explain why he was waving his arms around pissed off.

I was thinking he thought a fake was on and someone missed the call.

gblowfish
11-06-2011, 09:47 PM
Colquitt said in post game interview that the intended play was a Succop pooch punt that only he knew about due to miscommunication.

In that case they "screwed the pooch."

OnTheWarpath15
11-06-2011, 09:48 PM
In that case they "screwed the pooch."

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Bugeater
11-06-2011, 09:49 PM
Big time.

I would like to know which players committed this unpardonable sin.

FAX
Same here. There's only 16 gamedays a year and they go out and party it up before one of them?

tate2133
11-06-2011, 09:50 PM
very very good rooney rant

Simply Red
11-06-2011, 09:52 PM
*tebowing*

'Hamas' Jenkins
11-06-2011, 09:53 PM
Sounds like Todd really changed the culture here.

tk13
11-06-2011, 09:54 PM
Big time.

I would like to know which players committed this unpardonable sin.

FAX

Don't worry, last night was the time change. They had an extra hour to sleep it off.

O.city
11-06-2011, 09:55 PM
Hopefully it was some practice squad player or something touting how he was a Chiefs player. I'm pretty sure the players have a curfew the night before and actually stay in a hotel the night before, even at home games.

tk13
11-06-2011, 09:55 PM
Same here. There's only 16 gamedays a year and they go out and party it up before one of them?

[Gruden] You know what I love about this team? They know how to party. They aren't going to let the hype affect their game preparation.

Hammock Parties
11-06-2011, 09:55 PM
Sounds like Todd really changed the culture here.

No fucking shit.

We've had our asses completely handed to us three times this year.

That's Herm 2008 garbage.

But even Herm didn't get sandblasted as much as Haley has been in 2.5 years as Chiefs HC.

Simply Red
11-06-2011, 09:55 PM
Earlier Saturday; Haley was seen at Ray's Play-Pen w/ Andre Rison and Richard Gere's pet gerbil.

Discuss Thrower
11-06-2011, 09:57 PM
In that case they "screwed the pooch."

/removesunglasses
YYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAHHH

luv
11-06-2011, 09:57 PM
According to the guy who sits behind us now that we've moved our seats, non of the refs in the league like us, they're out to get us, and the game was decided on some call during our first drive.

The guy who sits next to him is the "coach". "What the hell was that?" "I can see that from the stands, and I'm not even a coach." "Who the hell is calling the plays?" I so badly wanted to turn around and say, "I don't know, but why don't you go ahead and go over there and apply for the HC position?" If I'd been drinking, I might have.

These two are also the type who yell at people and tell them they must not care and asking what kind of fans we are whenever the people around them aren't yelling at every possible moment.

I asked dad if he'd ever consider another relocation.

OnTheWarpath15
11-06-2011, 09:58 PM
Sounds like Todd really changed the culture here.

Uh, beards. Cornhole. Jizz stained hats.

It's a process.

tk13
11-06-2011, 09:59 PM
According to the guy who sits behind us now that we've moved our seats, non of the refs in the league like us, they're out to get us, and the game was decided on some call during our first drive.

The guy who sits next to him is the "coach". "What the hell was that?" "I can see that from the stands, and I'm not even a coach." "Who the hell is calling the plays?" I so badly wanted to turn around and say, "I don't know, but why don't you go ahead and go over there and apply for the HC position?" If I'd been drinking, I might have.

These two are also the type who yell at people and tell them they must not care and asking what kind of fans we are whenever the people around them aren't yelling at every possible moment.

I asked dad if he'd ever consider another relocation.

Sounds like a typical Sunday on ChiefsPlanet to me.

luv
11-06-2011, 10:00 PM
Sounds like a typical Sunday on ChiefsPlanet to me.

LMAO

I actually said that to dad. "Listening to these guys is like watching the game while posting on the Planet." He laughed.

Iconic
11-06-2011, 10:02 PM
Wow. If that's real, Haley should kick some ass and hard.

I hope that's not true.

FAX

I hope... For the sake of all of us that Matt Cassel has been getting shitfaced for the past 3 years and now for the first time ever will play his first sober game this Sunday.

OnTheWarpath15
11-06-2011, 10:02 PM
I hope... For the sake of all of us that Matt Cassel has been getting shitfaced for the past 3 years and now for the first time ever will play his first sober game this Sunday.

ROFL

ArrowheadMagic
11-06-2011, 10:04 PM
Uh, beards. Cornhole. Jizz stained hats.

It's a process.


Drama Queen

Hammock Parties
11-06-2011, 10:11 PM
Drama Queen

He's absolutely right.

Shit like this doesn't happened to well-coached, prepared teams.

It keeps happening to this team under Haley.

O.city
11-06-2011, 10:15 PM
He's absolutely right.

Shit like this doesn't happened to well-coached, prepared teams.

It keeps happening to this team under Haley.

It does make you start to think about that. I understand today more than the others after the MNF game. The home opener still beffuddles me.

dirk digler
11-06-2011, 10:21 PM
He's absolutely right.

Shit like this doesn't happened to well-coached, prepared teams.

It keeps happening to this team under Haley.

People are so impatient. Jesus it is only year 3 and we are still a work in process what do you expect?

tk13
11-06-2011, 10:22 PM
He's absolutely right.

Shit like this doesn't happened to well-coached, prepared teams.

It keeps happening to this team under Haley.

Well, if the partying thing is true, that doesn't and shouldn't happen. The last couple years in the crapfest that is the NFL, days like today do happen though. The Saints went out and laid an egg against the Rams last week. The Ravens have gone out and laid horrible eggs twice, and really laid one against the Cardinals last week too. The Packers laid a 7-3 egg to the 2-10 Lions last year then won the Super Bowl. The Patriots got destroyed by the Browns last year. These are all very well coached teams. Sometimes people get in way too much of a vacuum where the Chiefs do everything wrong and the rest of the league is awesome.

O.city
11-06-2011, 10:22 PM
Well, if the partying thing is true, that doesn't and shouldn't happen. The last couple years in the crapfest that is the NFL, days like today do happen though. The Saints went out and laid an egg against the Rams last week. The Ravens have gone out and laid horrible eggs twice, and really laid one against the Cardinals last week too. The Packers laid a 7-3 egg to the 2-10 Lions last year then won the Super Bowl. The Patriots got destroyed by the Browns last year. These all very well coached teams. Sometimes people get in way too much of a vacuum where the Chiefs do everything wrong and the rest of the league is awesome.

This.

Hammock Parties
11-06-2011, 10:23 PM
7-3 is not remotely comparable to:

31-3
48-3
41-7

That's THREE games out of eight.

That's a problem for Haley this year, and every year he's been here. He has a penchant for getting his ass handed to him.

Okie_Apparition
11-06-2011, 10:25 PM
Wonderful
A retread POS HC who will jetison players good & bad that don't fit his scheme

O.city
11-06-2011, 10:26 PM
7-3 is not remotely comparable to:

31-3
48-3
41-7

That's THREE games out of eight.

That's a problem for Haley this year, and every year he's been here. He has a penchant for getting his ass handed to him.

I agree with you on this one. I think its a product of a young team and a young inexperienced hc.

dirk digler
11-06-2011, 10:27 PM
IMHO losing 31-3 at home to a 0-7 team...well let's just say if I was the owner I would be posting some Now Hiring signs around the locker room.

Iconic
11-06-2011, 10:27 PM
Well, if the partying thing is true, that doesn't and shouldn't happen. The last couple years in the crapfest that is the NFL, days like today do happen though. The Saints went out and laid an egg against the Rams last week. The Ravens have gone out and laid horrible eggs twice, and really laid one against the Cardinals last week too. The Packers laid a 7-3 egg to the 2-10 Lions last year then won the Super Bowl. The Patriots got destroyed by the Browns last year. These all very well coached teams. Sometimes people get in way too much of a vacuum where the Chiefs do everything wrong and the rest of the league is awesome.

Chiefs Vs. Bills
LOSS: 41 - 7

Chiefs Vs. Lions
LOSS: 48 - 3

Chiefs Vs. Dolphins
LOSS: 31 - 3

That isn't normal...

Bugeater
11-06-2011, 10:30 PM
People are so impatient. Jesus it is only year 3 and we are still a work in process what do you expect?
To have the team show up ready to do their fucking job 16 goddamn days a year?

milkman
11-06-2011, 10:31 PM
I haven't seen anything to comment on specifically, but I do want to pop in and say that this "Ten Things" is well done, as always.

O.city
11-06-2011, 10:31 PM
Chiefs Vs. Bills
LOSS: 41 - 7

Chiefs Vs. Lions
LOSS: 48 - 3

Chiefs Vs. Dolphins
LOSS: 31 - 3

That isn't normal...

I'm not really in the mood to defend the guy, but he made a decision about the preseason that turned out to be wrong which cost him in the first two and losing the three players we lost.

Today I am hoping was just a young team coming off a big win on the national stage against a division opponent and just cming out flat. I hope.

But in the end, Haley is accountable for al of this. Like it or not, he's the head coach. Just like Cassel is the qb and gets blame for alot of stuff as he should.

ArrowheadMagic
11-06-2011, 10:33 PM
He's absolutely right.

Shit like this doesn't happened to well-coached, prepared teams.

It keeps happening to this team under Haley.

You will find any angle to bitch about, in order, to bring attention to yourself.

gblowfish
11-06-2011, 10:35 PM
Coach Haley's record as head coach is 18-22.
Not counting zero for one in playoff games.

Hammock Parties
11-06-2011, 10:36 PM
You will find any angle to bitch about, in order, to bring attention to yourself.

Yeah, I shouldn't bitch about the team embarrassing the entire fanbase time and time again.

milkman
11-06-2011, 10:37 PM
Coach Haley's record as head coach is 18-22.
Not counting zero for one in playoff games.

So, he's only three wins behind Marty.

dirk digler
11-06-2011, 10:37 PM
To have the team show up ready to do their fucking job 16 goddamn days a year?

your sarcasm meter is malfunctioning

gblowfish
11-06-2011, 10:37 PM
For sake of comparison, Coach Vermeil was 27-21 in at the end of his first three years, with a zero for one record in playoff games.

dirk digler
11-06-2011, 10:38 PM
Coach Haley's record as head coach is 18-22.
Not counting zero for one in playoff games.

we are a work in progress

ArrowheadMagic
11-06-2011, 10:40 PM
Yeah, I shouldn't bitch about the team embarrassing the entire fanbase time and time again.

Hasnt helped before. Maybe cry a little louder? lol.. be the voice of reason. you will make a difference. Nobody needs you to point a damn thing out about this team. We all know about it.

Bugeater
11-06-2011, 10:40 PM
your sarcasm meter is malfunctioning
It's hard to tell, there's a lot of people around here defending Haley tooth and nail.

milkman
11-06-2011, 10:40 PM
For sake of comparison, Coach Vermeil was 27-21 in at the end of his first three years, with a zero for one record in playoff games.

Different era.
Different game.

ArrowheadMagic
11-06-2011, 10:42 PM
Different era.
Different game.

Indeed. FFS, where was Stram at this point?

dirk digler
11-06-2011, 10:46 PM
It's hard to tell, there's a lot of people around here defending Haley tooth and nail.

I kind of like Haley but I think it is insulting to fans in year 3 of you being the head coach to continue to say you are a work in progress.

Okie_Apparition
11-06-2011, 10:47 PM
Pinning for the DV _efense is making me projectile vomit all over those 10 things

O.city
11-06-2011, 10:47 PM
I kind of like Haley but I think it is insulting to fans in year 3 of you being the head coach to continue to say you are a work in progress.

Until we get a different qb were will be a work in progress.

chefsos
11-06-2011, 10:58 PM
Indeed. FFS, where was Stram at this point?Winning a title.


If that's a rhetorical question though, never mind and carry on.

BossChief
11-06-2011, 10:59 PM
Coach Haley's record as head coach is 18-22.
Not counting zero for one in playoff games.

the previous 40 games in KC were 10-30

Thats not terribly against Haley. Almost twice the wins.

If you take out 2009 (just for the sake of conversation) Haley is 14-10 so that 18-22 is a bit of "just a number"

Truth is, this is a very young team coming off an emotional rollercoaster of a year and more importantly previous MNF rivalry game.

Deberg_1990
11-06-2011, 11:01 PM
Agree 100% about Dorsey and Jackson. They are basically both "just another guy". We could get the same production from a couple of sixth rounders. Sad.

Hammock Parties
11-06-2011, 11:03 PM
the previous 40 games in KC were 10-30

How many blowout losses AT HOME does it take to convince you that this guy is not all that?

He's not a bad coach, he just doesn't bring much to the table.

His shit is getting tired. If Herm was getting his ass waxed like this you and everyone else would be all over him.

Deberg_1990
11-06-2011, 11:06 PM
Here's three reasons why I think Haley will still be employed by the Chiefs for awhile: Marvin Lewis, Jack Del Rio and, Gary Kubiak.

Showtime
11-06-2011, 11:08 PM
Speaking of hangovers...

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/311987_286806358008949_116476271708626_1001087_1379257214_n.jpg

No idea of the validity of this, but sure is interesting. Looks like it was tweeted around 10:30 this morning.

Not on his timeline no more sooooooooooooooooooo

dirk digler
11-06-2011, 11:08 PM
the previous 40 games in KC were 10-30

Thats not terribly against Haley. Almost twice the wins.

If you take out 2009 (just for the sake of conversation) Haley is 14-10 so that 18-22 is a bit of "just a number"

Truth is, this is a very young team coming off an emotional rollercoaster of a year and more importantly previous MNF rivalry game.

Someone on the radio today brought up a good point; the Chiefs played the Bills in 91 in that huge Monday night game and won by 20 and then turned around that Sunday and demolished the Dolphins by 35 pts. That was a young team too.

No excuses for losing by 30 freaking points to an 0-7 team especially at home

OnTheWarpath15
11-06-2011, 11:10 PM
Not on his timeline no more sooooooooooooooooooo

It's still there.

http://twitter.com/#!/maclethal666

Okie_Apparition
11-06-2011, 11:12 PM
Debates over Cowher vs Gruden is enough to make a person eat a bullet

OnTheWarpath15
11-06-2011, 11:12 PM
Someone on the radio today brought up a good point; the Chiefs played the Bills in 91 in that huge Monday night game and won by 20 and then turned around that Sunday and demolished the Dolphins by 35 pts. That was a young team too.

No excuses for losing by 30 freaking points to an 0-7 team especially at home

There's no excuses, period, yet people keep making them. After the fact, of course.

Before the game, people were thinking we'd curbstomp them.

Now, people are breaking out every excuse they can think of, from "young team" to "short week" to "emotional letdown" to "trap game".

Did I miss any?

BossChief
11-06-2011, 11:13 PM
How many blowout losses AT HOME does it take to convince you that this guy is not all that?

He's not a bad coach, he just doesn't bring much to the table.

His shit is getting tired. If Herm was getting his ass waxed like this you and everyone else would be all over him.

I'm not gonna defend the game TODAY.

We got beat decisively by an inferior team in our house.

Im gonna defend Haleys body of work.

He was given a soft, young, undisciplined and talentless team and has them in the division lead at the halfway point of the year...while being handcuffed to a crappy and very limited quarterback and missing 4 of its best players for half the year...and three of them for the remainder.

Im not gonna overreact over this loss, no matter how much it hurts.

Simply Red
11-06-2011, 11:17 PM
The most exciting thing i saw while watching the game today was, that Price Chopper commercial. I haven't seen one in many yrs.

dirk digler
11-06-2011, 11:19 PM
Did I miss any?

well duh...we are a work in progress :p

Oh I forgot one more, apparently Jon McGraw is the smart one in the secondary so since he was out it all went to hell

tk13
11-06-2011, 11:22 PM
No way shape or form am I going to defend today's performance. No doubt about that.

But I don't have a problem waiting to see how the season plays out before delivering a verdict on Haley. The possibility still exists that this team could win the division two of his first three years.

Of course, there's the possibility this team could go down the tube like we did the year under Herm where we came off the playoff berth, started 4-3, got beat down two weeks in a row at home and lost out.

'Hamas' Jenkins
11-06-2011, 11:23 PM
I'm not gonna defend the game TODAY.

We got beat decisively by an inferior team in our house.

Im gonna defend Haleys body of work.

He was given a soft, young, undisciplined and talentless team and has them in the division lead at the halfway point of the year...while being handcuffed to a crappy and very limited quarterback and missing 4 of its best players for half the year...and three of them for the remainder.

Im not gonna overreact over this loss, no matter how much it hurts.

You cannot honestly claim that this team was completely untalented when the majority of the impact players on this team were here before the current regime got here.

Hammock Parties
11-06-2011, 11:23 PM
I'm not gonna defend the game TODAY.

We got beat decisively by an inferior team in our house.

Im gonna defend Haleys body of work.

He was given a soft, young, undisciplined and talentless team and has them in the division lead at the halfway point of the year...while being handcuffed to a crappy and very limited quarterback and missing 4 of its best players for half the year...and three of them for the remainder.

Im not gonna overreact over this loss, no matter how much it hurts.

If you can't see the shit storm on the horizon, I feel sorry for you.

I have a bad feeling the next month is gonna be the worst part of Haley's tenure.

dirk digler
11-06-2011, 11:27 PM
I also heard on the radio coming back from the game that they benched Piscitelli because he sucks.

Which makes me wonder if he sucks so bad why the fuck is he still on this team? Can you answer that Scotty Potty?

ArrowheadMagic
11-06-2011, 11:45 PM
You cannot honestly claim that this team was completely untalented when the majority of the impact players on this team were here before the current regime got here.


So the talent has been coached up? They are better than they were before?

ArrowheadMagic
11-06-2011, 11:49 PM
Is who makes them better more important than if they get better?

Oh Snap
11-06-2011, 11:50 PM
Same here. There's only 16 gamedays a year and they go out and party it up before one of them?

Sounds like they thought Miami was going to be a gimme.

Going out and getting plastered the night before a game is pretty stupid. After a night of getting hammered, I need at least 24-48 hours to recoup before Im good to go.


Sounds like Todd needs to get a grip on his team if thats the case.

'Hamas' Jenkins
11-06-2011, 11:51 PM
So the talent has been coached up? They are better than they were before?

I'll take "Non-Sequiturs" for $600.

ArrowheadMagic
11-06-2011, 11:54 PM
I'll take "Non-Sequiturs" for $600.


it matters because you claim the core players were in place before the current regime. they have gotten better under the current regime. unless your claim is by being in the league longer automatically makes them better players.

BossChief
11-06-2011, 11:55 PM
Someone on the radio today brought up a good point; the Chiefs played the Bills in 91 in that huge Monday night game and won by 20 and then turned around that Sunday and demolished the Dolphins by 35 pts. That was a young team too.

No excuses for losing by 30 freaking points to an 0-7 team especially at homeWould that be the case if that team had lost Derron Cherry, Christian Okoye and Jesse Haynes before the year started... and were forced to play Mark Vlasic while having Deberg on the bench because Vlasic was on a big money contract?

That would make things different, wouldn't it?

You cannot honestly claim that this team was completely untalented when the majority of the impact players on this team were here before the current regime got here.

The only two players we had at the time that were producing were Flowers and Bowe.

Hali was an average to above average pass rusher, but was a total liability against the run. We broke the record in 08 for least sacks in the history of the NFL, even with Hali and Dorsey...some seem to forget that.
Carr was still making a lot of mistakes and wasn't very good at all.
Dorsey got washed out the majority of the time and was severely overweight when Haley got here (showing that he was undisciplined and lazy)
Bowe was always talented, but he was lazy and very inconsistent. He dropped a lot of passes and was unfocused....nobody can say those things
anymore.
DJ.....I dont even need to go into that.
Charles' average per attempt and amount of fumbles per carry have improved every year he has been here.

Like I said, Im not gonna overreact to this loss.

Buehler445
11-06-2011, 11:56 PM
Sounds like they thought Miami was going to be a gimme.

Going out and getting plastered the night before a game is pretty stupid. After a night of getting hammered, I need at least 24-48 hours to recoup before Im good to go.


Sounds like Todd needs to get a grip on his team if thats the case.

Dude. If you were operating your body at peak performance, it would take longer than that. I never drank while I was playing sports. It will fuck you up bad, for a long time.

Dave Lane
11-06-2011, 11:57 PM
No ****ing shit.

We've had our asses completely handed to us three times this year.

That's Herm 2008 garbage.

But even Herm didn't get sandblasted as much as Haley has been in 2.5 years as Chiefs HC.

You're insane. Never mention that clowns name again.

4th and Long
11-06-2011, 11:59 PM
If you can't see the shit storm on the horizon, I feel sorry for you.

I have a bad feeling the next month is gonna be the worst part of Haley's tenure.

Ya think?

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http://madspaniarddesigns.com/NFL%20Page/SteelersBall.jpg

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http://madspaniarddesigns.com/NFL%20Page/PackersBall.jpg

Oh Snap
11-07-2011, 12:02 AM
Dude. If you were operating your body at peak performance, it would take longer than that. I never drank while I was playing sports. It will **** you up bad, for a long time.

Well, I dont play sport today. However, I am 25 years old, and into bodybuilding. At 6'3 227lbs and 8% body fat, I think I have a pretty good idea.

When I go out and get hammered, my body isn't the same for at least 2-3 days. Maybe even a week for total recovery. Its a big reason why I dont go out and get hammered routinely. It affects my recovery time way too much. Gym sessions are never the same either. So I keep my drinking to a minimum.

Buehler445
11-07-2011, 12:03 AM
George, you always have a way of putting it in perspective.

I'm glad to hear KC is doing right by the vets. I would expect nothing less.

It's truly amazing how up and down this team is. We looked like we were going to blast them out of the stadium the first drive, and then we did precisely NOTHING that was worth a flying feces after that.

Call it what you want to call it, a good team does not suffer losses like this. Good teams can have days where shit happens and nothing can go right ever. But this is different. This was tremendous lack of focus, intensity, and intelligence. And at least part of it has to go to scheme.

This is absolutely a team loss. There was no player, coach, waterboy, towel bitch anybody that had a satisfactory performance. All facets of the game need adjustment and improvement.

I just look at the great teams "bad losses" recently, and none of them seemed to be just piss poor performances. Some lacked focus. Some lacked intensity. Some made bonehead plays. I can't think of a one that did all of it. And I can't think of one that had such egrigious scheme deficiencies.

Buehler445
11-07-2011, 12:05 AM
Well, I dont play sport today. However, I am 25 years old, and into bodybuilding. At 6'3 227lbs and 8% body fat, I think I have a pretty good idea.

When I go out and get hammered, my body isn't the same for at least 2-3 days. Maybe even a week for total recovery. Its a big reason why I dont go out and get hammered routinely. It affects my recovery time way too much. Gym sessions are never the same either. So I keep my drinking to a minimum.

That's what I'm saying. 24 hours won't do it. I'd say a week is probably about what would get you back to where you were before you got hammered. That's if you're taking care of yourself. But that's just my experience. No science involved.

Oh Snap
11-07-2011, 12:08 AM
That's what I'm saying. 24 hours won't do it. I'd say a week is probably about what would get you back to where you were before you got hammered. That's if you're taking care of yourself. But that's just my experience. No science involved.

This team is very undisciplined if that is the case.

go bo
11-07-2011, 12:08 AM
Sounds like they thought Miami was going to be a gimme.

Going out and getting plastered the night before a game is pretty stupid. After a night of getting hammered, I need at least 24-48 hours to recoup before Im good to go.


Sounds like Todd needs to get a grip on his team if thats the case.

pussy! :p :p :p

Buehler445
11-07-2011, 12:09 AM
This team is very undisciplined if that is the case.

Agree. It's bullshit if they're doing it.

Iconic
11-07-2011, 12:10 AM
If the Tweet is veritably true... I have a few solid guesses as to who did the late night consuming.:rolleyes:

ArrowheadMagic
11-07-2011, 12:10 AM
That's what I'm saying. 24 hours won't do it. I'd say a week is probably about what would get you back to where you were before you got hammered. That's if you're taking care of yourself. But that's just my experience. No science involved.

So in your professional opinion, no professional athlete has ever gotten drunk during a season and performed well? Or would it be safe to say, that not everyones bodies react the same? Since you admit, you have never played a sport professionally.

Oh Snap
11-07-2011, 12:11 AM
pussy! :p :p :p


You haven't drank with me! ;)

ArrowheadMagic
11-07-2011, 12:11 AM
LOL.. fandom is serious business.

Oh Snap
11-07-2011, 12:13 AM
LOL.. fandom is serious business.

I'm german, we take alcohol very srsly.

ArrowheadMagic
11-07-2011, 12:14 AM
I'm german, we take alcohol very srsly.

LOL.

4th and Long
11-07-2011, 12:16 AM
Well, I dont play sport today. However, I am 25 years old, and into bodybuilding. At 6'3 227lbs and 8% body fat, I think I have a pretty good idea.

When I go out and get hammered, my body isn't the same for at least 2-3 days. Maybe even a week for total recovery. Its a big reason why I dont go out and get hammered routinely. It affects my recovery time way too much. Gym sessions are never the same either. So I keep my drinking to a minimum. .

That's a worthless stat.

I'm 47 years old, 175lbs and 97.5% body fat and I can tell you that I feel like crap for 2-3 days after getting hammered too. :p

BossChief
11-07-2011, 12:17 AM
Ya think?

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http://madspaniarddesigns.com/NFL%20Page/SteelersBall.jpg

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRfiznChTfj0tfXi1t_3dPZy540MWALfdXM54XUJlt_mhLVdXPphttp://madspaniarddesigns.com/NFL%20Page/BearsBall.jpg

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRfiznChTfj0tfXi1t_3dPZy540MWALfdXM54XUJlt_mhLVdXPphttp://madspaniarddesigns.com/NFL%20Page/JetsBall.jpg

http://madspaniarddesigns.com/NFL%20Page/PackersBall.jpgreason for optimism:

Pass rushing rank:

NE tied for 24th
PITT tied for 10th (also tied for 10th was Miami)
CHI tied for 24th
NYJ tied for 18th
GB are 17th

Reason for pessimism:

all of them will be ranked higher after playing us.

Buehler445
11-07-2011, 12:19 AM
So in your professional opinion, no professional athlete has ever gotten drunk during a season and performed well? Or would it be safe to say, that not everyones bodies react the same? Since you admit, you have never played a sport professionally.

I have no professional opinion.

I have never professionally played a sport.

However, athletes can go out and get drunk and still play, perhaps even play well. But it is nowhere near what they are capable of.

It affects reaction time, explosiveness, and focus. Players may react differently, but nobody is getting smashed the night before and playing their best at noon the next day.

jd1020
11-07-2011, 12:22 AM
1 of them was Stanzi, for obvious reasons.

BossChief
11-07-2011, 12:23 AM
Im not buying this story one bit, but I bet Nick Wrong has a 3 hour bit on it for tomorrows show.

Bugeater
11-07-2011, 12:23 AM
Like I said, Im not gonna overreact to this loss.
No one is saying you need to overreact to this loss on its own, but you damn well better acknowledge that it's the 3rd fucking time this season this team has shown up not ready to play. You seem like you want to ignore that pesky little fact.

Hammock Parties
11-07-2011, 12:26 AM
Just watched the first series for offense and defense.

We looked good. They came out with plenty of energy and effort.

We flat out were not prepared and did not adjust. Poor coaching and preparation.

ArrowheadMagic
11-07-2011, 12:26 AM
I have no professional opinion.

I have never professionally played a sport.

However, athletes can go out and get drunk and still play, perhaps even play well. But it is nowhere near what they are capable of.

It affects reaction time, explosiveness, and focus. Players may react differently, but nobody is getting smashed the night before and playing their best at noon the next day.

Granted they wont be at their best but to claim they cant recover within 48 hrs with proper hydration is redonkulous. But I guess its not CP without something to bitch about. So pardon my interruption... Continue bitching.

Titty Meat
11-07-2011, 12:27 AM
Mac isn't a bullshitter.

Hammock Parties
11-07-2011, 12:37 AM
4-man rush was stoned on the first big play for Miami on their 2nd drive.

Romeo absolutely has to start blitzing turds like Matt Moore.

BossChief
11-07-2011, 12:38 AM
No one is saying you need to overreact to this loss on its own, but you damn well better acknowledge that it's the 3rd fucking time this season this team has shown up not ready to play. You seem like you want to ignore that pesky little fact.

We are a young team without a quarterback and missing three of our best players, man.

Going from Berry to McGraw was a huge dropoff and going from McGraw to Washington seemed to give us major issues in terms of communication in the secondary. Arenas not playing intensified the problem and lead to a lot of breakdowns in coverage.

That coupled with us not being able to finish big plays lost us this game.

Baldwin was wide open on two occasions this game that would have gone for touchdowns....Breaston was wide open on one 35 yard pass and was wide open across the middle when Cassel overthrew him on another...Kendrick Lewis just missed intercepting an early pass. Jon Baldwin getting called for pushing off on his touchdown.

Stuff like that happens and its tough to win.

Hammock Parties
11-07-2011, 12:40 AM
Is it also tough to not get blown out by 4 TDs?

I can excuse losing because the Dolphins have been close with good teams.

I can't excuse this utterly embarrassing garbage.

ArrowheadMagic
11-07-2011, 12:44 AM
Is it also tough to not get blown out by 4 TDs?

I can excuse losing because the Dolphins have been close with good teams.

I can't excuse this utterly embarrassing garbage.


Yes it was a disturbing loss. What are you going to do about it? Surely you have the press credentials to get to the bottom of the story.

Hammock Parties
11-07-2011, 12:45 AM
You don't need press credentials to see our franchise leadership is a bag of shite.

ArrowheadMagic
11-07-2011, 12:47 AM
You don't need press credentials to see our franchise leadership is a bag of shite.

Yes, this is a talentless team. No one has been coached up... No talent has been acquired.

BossChief
11-07-2011, 12:48 AM
highs and lows

one week we go into Oakland and dominate them....a few weeks later we get stomped at home against Miami

Hammock Parties
11-07-2011, 12:50 AM
Cassel really screws up the 3rd drive.

1. Poor throw

2. Gets spooked and doesn't see a wide open Jackie Battle for a dumpoff. 0-yard scramble.

3. Throws past the LOS.

Bad.

Titty Meat
11-07-2011, 12:50 AM
highs and lows

one week we go into Oakland and dominate them....a few weeks later we get stomped at home against Miami

Yup no big deal because every year the division is this bad.....

It's not like players getting hammered 10 hours before a game is a big deal.....

We'll just put in a future journey man QB in Ricky Stanzi and be ok.....

ArrowheadMagic
11-07-2011, 12:52 AM
highs and lows

one week we go into Oakland and dominate them....a few weeks later we get stomped at home against Miami

Good teams have let downs.... but are we really as good team? See how we rebound against the Tebow's. But it wouldnt be this place unless people overreacted to everything.

ArrowheadMagic
11-07-2011, 12:54 AM
Cassel really screws up the 3rd drive.

1. Poor throw

2. Gets spooked and doesn't see a wide open Jackie Battle for a dumpoff. 0-yard scramble.

3. Throws past the LOS.

Bad.

Breaking news, probably deserves it own thread. Dont let that get buried in this thread.

BossChief
11-07-2011, 12:59 AM
Yup no big deal because every year the division is this bad.....

It's not like players getting hammered 10 hours before a game is a big deal.....

We'll just put in a future journey man QB in Ricky Stanzi and be ok.....

If what it fucking takes is a few more games like this to show that Cassel needs replaced along with a few others, sign me up.

Honestly, I dont care if thats with Stanzi or somebody else but Stanzi should get a shot this year so that we know how much a priority the position should be in the next draft.

We absolutely know what we have in Cassel and its the same old song and dance. Pressure him and he shits the bed.

For me, the next step is to move on from a few players and make some choices that need made.

Hudson for Weigmann
Gaither for Richardson
Stanzi for Palko

That should bolster the line and give somebody to take some garbage time if we continue to lose games in that fashion.

And FFS run McClain or Battle inside the 5 yard line...not a midget.

Hammock Parties
11-07-2011, 12:59 AM
Breaking news, probably deserves it own thread. Dont let that get buried in this thread.

You sure are being a bitch tonight.

ArrowheadMagic
11-07-2011, 01:03 AM
You sure are being a bitch tonight.


lol... your crying is rubbing me wrong tonight sister. It'll pass.

Hammock Parties
11-07-2011, 01:09 AM
What will pass? You really think things are going to improve?

Titty Meat
11-07-2011, 01:25 AM
If what it ****ing takes is a few more games like this to show that Cassel needs replaced along with a few others, sign me up.

Honestly, I dont care if thats with Stanzi or somebody else but Stanzi should get a shot this year so that we know how much a priority the position should be in the next draft.

We absolutely know what we have in Cassel and its the same old song and dance. Pressure him and he shits the bed.

For me, the next step is to move on from a few players and make some choices that need made.

Hudson for Weigmann
Gaither for Richardson
Stanzi for Palko

That should bolster the line and give somebody to take some garbage time if we continue to lose games in that fashion.

And FFS run McClain or Battle inside the 5 yard line...not a midget.

Thing is this is more than just a Cassel problem bro people need to be held accountable.

Titty Meat
11-07-2011, 01:26 AM
Pisscatili should be released we need to carry an extra running back that can run faster than 4.7.

BossChief
11-07-2011, 01:39 AM
I'd also cut Sabby...but I'd take it a step further. I'd outright cut Jones, too.

Replace them with the best safety and running back from another teams practice squad.

Neither player helps this team on Sunday's.

Buehler445
11-07-2011, 07:26 AM
Granted they wont be at their best but to claim they cant recover within 48 hrs with proper hydration is redonkulous. But I guess its not CP without something to bitch about. So pardon my interruption... Continue bitching.

Heh. Are you dense or are you stirring shit?

Look, if you were getting absolute peak performance out of your body, in terms of reaction time, explosiveness, and stamina. And you got obliterated, you wouldn't be back operating at peak performance after 48 hours. These chuckleheads could probably go out and play pretty well, but they wouldn't be getting the best performance out of their bodies they could.

But fuck it. None of that matters. It wasn't 48 hours, it was 10. If players that were active were out getting fucked up at 2AM and they played at noon, that would have an effect on their performance. If it is Stanzi, Powe, and the practice squad, who cares.

I'm not overreacting. My hair is not on fire. I'm not freaking out in my little hole out here in no man's land. But if the report is true (who knows, it is twitter, it may have been Kendal Gammon or some douche with a chiefs hat on), it is pretty troubling.

Deberg_1990
11-07-2011, 07:45 AM
No way shape or form am I going to defend today's performance. No doubt about that.

But I don't have a problem waiting to see how the season plays out before delivering a verdict on Haley. The possibility still exists that this team could win the division two of his first three years.

Of course, there's the possibility this team could go down the tube like we did the year under Herm where we came off the playoff berth, started 4-3, got beat down two weeks in a row at home and lost out.

Same for me. Ill hold judgement on Haley until the season is over. I already mentioned 3 coaches names as to why im thinking the Chiefs hold on to Haley. Sometimes teams prefer a young coach to grow into the job rather than dismiss him and keep the coaching carosel spinning.

KCUnited
11-07-2011, 08:13 AM
Earlier Saturday; Haley was seen at Ray's Play-Pen w/ Andre Rison and Richard Gere's pet gerbil.

The Pen's been closed for a bit. :(

Freakin' laundromat now.

Otter
11-07-2011, 08:42 AM
I was kinda waiting for the Chiefs to lay an egg this game but after watching the 1st drive my hopes soared only to be beaten down brutally. I certainly wasn't expecting a beating like that either way.

We're still miles away from ever competing with a team like the Steelers, Ravens or Packers.

Frosty
11-07-2011, 08:48 AM
I was kinda waiting for the Chiefs to lay an egg this game but after watching the 1st drive my hopes soared only to be beaten down brutally. I certainly wasn't expecting a beating like that either way.

We're still miles away from ever competing with a team like the Steelers, Ravens or Packers.

I watched part of the Giants - Pats game yesterday. Those TE's of NE are going to eat the Chiefs alive. :shake:

aturnis
11-07-2011, 09:00 AM
The Saints just lost to the Rams. The only reason that game wasn't a blowout was b/c the Saints have Drew Brees and not Matt Cassel. Stop overreacting.

Muir needs to be replaced. The line suffers mentally as much as it suffers physically. When was the last time this team picked up a blitz flawlessly? They aren't coached well enough to know their assignments. Hell, Albert and Richardson still have plays where they don't know who to block and this is the third year they've been in this system.

I would welcome Sparano as our new oline coach.

I also would lean towards Le'Ron McClain as the Saturday night partier. His twitter account leads me to believe he wants desperately to be a part of a rappers social circle, a la LJ. He is friends with more rappers, strippers, and port stars than any dedicated athlete should be. He's also best friends with Gaither, who happens to be besties with Albert. I wonder if Albert is a follower or a leader?

Old Dog
11-07-2011, 09:21 AM
Nicely done George.

I think the whole daylight saving time screwed them. Instead of setting their clocks back one hour, they just set them back to week one. Time travel may be the only plausible explanation.

PhillyChiefFan
11-07-2011, 10:11 AM
I was kinda waiting for the Chiefs to lay an egg this game but after watching the 1st drive my hopes soared only to be beaten down brutally. I certainly wasn't expecting a beating like that either way.

We're still miles away from ever competing with a team like the Steelers, Ravens or Packers.

That was the most disheartening thing about yesterday. They aren't just losses, they are BEAT DOWNS. In 3 of the 4 losses, the Chiefs have been outscored 120-13.

boogblaster
11-07-2011, 10:38 AM
good read ...

OnTheWarpath15
11-07-2011, 10:47 AM
Anyone on KC radio brought up the Mac Lethal tweet yet?

Sofa King
11-07-2011, 10:49 AM
Anyone on KC radio brought up the Mac Lethal tweet yet?

Nick Wright will after seeing this thread.

Hydrae
11-07-2011, 10:59 AM
Nice Andy Rooney take.

Otherwise, I refuse to discuss this TEAM loss.

gblowfish
11-07-2011, 11:33 AM
Nick Wright will after seeing this thread.

If reading threads on the CP is part of his show prep, that's pretty weak.

FAX
11-07-2011, 11:34 AM
If reading threads on the CP is part of his show prep, that's pretty weak.

Well it's two things, really.

One is reading threads on CP and the other is getting drunk and throwing chicken bones on the lid of a 50 gallon drum.

FAX

MahiMike
11-07-2011, 03:12 PM
"6. Was the defense the worst of the two? I can make a case for that too. What happened to Tamba Hali? I'll tell you what happened, Jake Long happened. Dude showed why he was the very first pick in the 2008 NFL draft. He stoned Hali. Just stoned him. The times Hali did manage to clear Long's block, the Fish had a back in protection to double team him. "

I said the same thing to my Dolphins buddy. He said Long has been a weak spot all year. But he looked 100 lbs bigger than Hali. If they moved Hali around or started both him and Houston from same side, I didn't see it. He had all day.

Miami matched up well against us, outplayed us and schemed us better. Definitely took advantage of our safeties and threw it at will over the middle.

Easy 6
11-07-2011, 03:41 PM
Sounds like Todd really changed the culture here.

Goddamn, you just cant help yourself can you?

scho63
11-07-2011, 05:49 PM
Ten Things About Today's Game

10.If you ever needed a textbook definition of the term "Trap Game," today would be it. The whole rhythm of the day seemed off. Maybe it was the hangover from Monday Night Football. Maybe it was the time change. Maybe it was knowing the team coming in to Arrowhead was a big donut hole for seven on the season. In any event, the Chiefs looked like the winless team today, and Miami looked like they had everything to play for. The Fish hustled, hit big plays, didn't make a lot of stupid mistakes, played well in all phases; in short, they deserved to win. Congrats to them on a game well played and for getting off the donut.

9.-2. Omitted

1. Despite how maddening and frustrating this day was, all is not lost. The Faiders and Bolts both lost, and since Denver won today, maybe they'll not be as focused for KC next week. Hopefully the team will get it's collective act together and have a little "Come to Jesus" meeting in store for Tim Tebow. Things will not get easier with the Pack, Bears, Jets and Steelers looming on the horizon, so we have to make hay while we can. One last thing. It was Veterans Appreciation Day at Arrowhead. At halftime they had a beautiful surprise family reunion for an Iraq vet. It was very touching. They also showed a tribute in pictures to many of the men and women from Missouri and Kansas that have died in Iraq and Afghanistan. The dead came from everywhere we come from: KC, Columbia, St. Joe, Topeka, Manhattan, Wichita, on and on and on. There were dozens of them. After watching that, it made the second half of the game seem pretty meaningless, or at least it put into perspective what truly is a life and death matter. War is a life and death matter, football is not.

Thank you to all the veterans, past and current, for having our backs.


:thumb:

You should be writing for the KC Star

seamonster
11-07-2011, 05:57 PM
I'm really lost with this team. I want to say they need a pass rush probably a little more than they need a quarterback, and half the reason they keep getting choke slammed and blown out by random teams is there's no rush to disrupt the other teams rhythem, which then puts pressure on one of the least compossed quarterbacks in the NFL to move the ball. Seems to be a vicous cycle and if they could pick up a Kerrigan-type player in the draft this year, to go a long with a non-crippled berry, they could start wrecking sht. I actually think Haley's done a good job holding the team together and handling the season though, people should't be jumping to conclusions there...

Micjones
11-07-2011, 06:00 PM
I'm really lost with this team. I want to say they need a pass rush probably a little more than they need a quarterback, and half the reason they keep getting choke slammed and blown out by random teams is there's no rush to disrupt the other teams rhythem, which then puts pressure on one of the least compossed quarterbacks in the NFL to move the ball. Seems to be a vicous cycle and if they could pick up a Kerrigan-type player in the draft this year, to go a long with a non-crippled berry, they could start wrecking sht. I actually think Haley's done a good job holding the team together and handling the season though, people should't be jumping to conclusions there...

You keep wondering when Bailey or Houston are going to stand up and be counted. I'm always wondering what the difference has been with Gilberry. Maybe the added weight has hurt his ability to close?

petegz28
11-07-2011, 06:00 PM
I'm really lost with this team. I want to say they need a pass rush probably a little more than they need a quarterback, and half the reason they keep getting choke slammed and blown out by random teams is there's no rush to disrupt the other teams rhythem, which then puts pressure on one of the least compossed quarterbacks in the NFL to move the ball. Seems to be a vicous cycle and if they could pick up a Kerrigan-type player in the draft this year, to go a long with a non-crippled berry, they could start wrecking sht. I actually think Haley's done a good job holding the team together and handling the season though, people should't be jumping to conclusions there...

I agree, we have to focus on our pass rush more so than I thought we did at the end of the season last year. Taking TJ and putting him into a 3-4 was a mistake. Dorsey is barley making it. Gregg was the stop gap for Powe but Powe never sees the field. We could have had the guy that went to Baltimore last year but NOOOOOOO! Instead we fell in love with "playmakers". Berry and Baldwin were probably good picks but Dex and Arenas? I like Javier but seriously, I think we had more needs in the trenches than we did for undersized guys.

Easy 6
11-07-2011, 07:41 PM
Goddamn, you just cant help yourself can you?

Todd Haley, rookie head coach, came into KC and took this team to a division title in his second year, his second... far bigger coaching names have taken a lot longer to claim as much, with a team in such a longstanding, abysmal shithole.

Not to mention that he did it with a bevy of picks & signings that have sometimes been less than stellar, as you are keen to point out, dont equate some jersey shore rejects dumb move with Haley not being a positive force for this team, warts & all... c'mon, you cant truthfully say that he hasnt changed the culture in a positive way.

aturnis
11-07-2011, 10:06 PM
Tyson Jackson consistently gets more pressure on the QB than Dorsey ever does. Dorsey usually gets pretty well stoned at the POA and TJ pushes his guy clear back to the QB quite often. It's like he doesn't really try to get off of the block and go after the QB though. Just pushes him back and puts his hands in the air. Has a few batted passes to his name though.

texaschiefsfan
11-09-2011, 08:32 AM
I would like to thank all of the players for the Kansas City Chiefs who left me with horrible memories from my return trip to Arrowhead. I hadn't been to a game there since 1987 and I drove 1,000 miles to see their "effort". Thanks again!

On the bright side, I did enjoy meeting Keith Cash. My favorite Chiefs memory is of him spiking the ball on that huge picture of Buddy Ryan's face in the endzone in Houston.

FAX
11-09-2011, 08:33 AM
I would like to thank all of the players for the Kansas City Chiefs who left me with horrible memories from my return trip to Arrowhead. I hadn't been to a game there since 1987 and I drove 1,000 miles to see their "effort". Thanks again!

On the bright side, I did enjoy meeting Keith Cash. My favorite Chiefs memory is of him spiking the ball on that huge picture of Buddy Ryan's face in the endzone in Houston.

That was a great sports moment, to be sure.

FAX