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Showtime
11-14-2011, 02:12 PM
getnickwrightnick wright


RT @kentbabb Haley says Cassel has "significant" hand injury that could end his season. Not sure in that yet.

Carlota69
11-14-2011, 02:13 PM
getnickwrightnick wright


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RT @kentbabb Haley says Cassel has "significant" hand injury that could end his season. Not sure in that yet.
hers comes Stanzi...Please:p

P.S...not saying I believe this..just wishing..

the Talking Can
11-14-2011, 02:13 PM
HALLE-FUCKING-LUJAH!!!

Mr. Laz
11-14-2011, 02:13 PM
Super Bowl!!!!!!!!!!!!

since all problems with the team stem from Cassel, we are looking at going undefeated the rest of the year and making the playoffs.

PBJ PBJ

Mr. Arrowhead
11-14-2011, 02:14 PM
this is too good to be true

L.A. Chieffan
11-14-2011, 02:14 PM
horrible news

Mr. Laz
11-14-2011, 02:14 PM
hers comes Stanzi...Please:p

:hmmm:

the Talking Can
11-14-2011, 02:14 PM
Super Bowl!!!!!!!!!!!!

since all problems with the team stem from Cassel, we are looking at going undefeated the rest of the year and making the playoffs.

PBJ PBJ

jesus you are dumb

Cave Johnson
11-14-2011, 02:14 PM
Why, God, could this not have happened in week 2 or 3.

Also, come on down RG3.

DMAC
11-14-2011, 02:15 PM
http://i489.photobucket.com/albums/rr255/slidindy/CrazyDancing.gif

the Talking Can
11-14-2011, 02:15 PM
BLOW FOR BARKLEY

Three7s
11-14-2011, 02:15 PM
Why, God, could this not have happened in week 2 or 3.

Also, come on down RG3.
Screw that, I'm game for Barkley.

Carlota69
11-14-2011, 02:15 PM
:hmmm:
What? Id rather see what this kid has then some-has-been-used-up-backup Palko...

Reerun_KC
11-14-2011, 02:16 PM
This should automatically improve the OL play...

Mr. Laz
11-14-2011, 02:16 PM
jesus you are dumb
You said yourself that this team has playoff talent and that Cassel was the problem.

changing your mind?

KC Tattoo
11-14-2011, 02:16 PM
I'm not going get exited untill it becomes fact. This is just speculation...

Showtime
11-14-2011, 02:16 PM
JoshLooneyJosh Looney


Cassel injury to throwing hand could sideline him for season...still fluid situation per Coach Haley #Chiefs

Mr. Laz
11-14-2011, 02:16 PM
What? Id rather see what this kid has then some-has-been-used-up-backup Palko...

Hers ... comes ... Stanzi .... please.



:D

SAUTO
11-14-2011, 02:16 PM
worst thing that could have happened IMO. now his suckage wont be fresh at draft time

loochy
11-14-2011, 02:16 PM
LOSE FOR LANDRY

GO FOR GRIFFIN

Priest31kc
11-14-2011, 02:16 PM
Does this mean Cassel will get another chance next year? If so, fuck.

Molitoth
11-14-2011, 02:17 PM
BLOW FOR BARKLEY

YES awesome!

Reerun_KC
11-14-2011, 02:17 PM
You said yourself that this team has playoff talent and that Cassel was the problem.

changing your mind?

You are wasting your time with him...

Just ignore it and move on...

NJChiefsFan
11-14-2011, 02:17 PM
I don't know if this is good or bad. Is this going to give them a reason to bring him back since he perfectly, PERFECTLY, avoided the tough 5 game stretch? Was he coming back anyway? Or will Stanzi, if he ever plays at any point, show them that Matt was holding the offense back, even if Stanzi himself isn't the answer?

I don't know what the answers are, I just know the organization will ask the wrong questions and come up with equally wrong answers.

Molitoth
11-14-2011, 02:17 PM
This news actually has me excited!

the Talking Can
11-14-2011, 02:17 PM
You said yourself that this team has playoff talent and that Cassel was the problem.

changing your mind?

are you pretending to be as dumb as rerun?

or are you really that dumb?

becuase I thought you were pretending to be dumb, but now it seems you really are just that ****ing stupid

Reerun_KC
11-14-2011, 02:18 PM
Does this mean Cassel will get another chance next year? If so, ****.

That would be priceless...

And Karma...

I would be fucking pissed.

Caseyguyrr
11-14-2011, 02:18 PM
This should automatically improve the OL play...

your reasoning is unquestionable

Reerun_KC
11-14-2011, 02:18 PM
are you pretending to be as dumb as rerun?

or are you really that dumb?

becuase I thought you were pretending to be dumb, but now it seems you really are just that ****ing stupid

Yawn....


Its a bitch to get called out isnt it...

memyselfI
11-14-2011, 02:18 PM
Cassel haters are getting their wish. Let's see how well that turns out.

Caseyguyrr
11-14-2011, 02:18 PM
i just went from 6 to midnight

Reerun_KC
11-14-2011, 02:19 PM
your reasoning is unquestionable

Dont you agree? Why would it not?

How could it not?

Cave Johnson
11-14-2011, 02:19 PM
At worst, we develop a backup QB that will allow Jones/Barkley/Griffin to better transition next year.

the Talking Can
11-14-2011, 02:19 PM
Yawn....


Its a bitch to get called out isnt it...

for what?

I'm ecstatic...we're one step closer to drafting a QB

you're sad because you think Cassel just needs a better OL

loochy
11-14-2011, 02:19 PM
getnickwrightnick wright


RT @kentbabb Haley says Cassel has "significant" hand injury that could end his season. Not sure in that yet.

I wouldn't get my hopes up. Cassel is a physically tough dude so he can probably play through some pain, ala DeBerg and pinned together finger.

kstater
11-14-2011, 02:19 PM
Super Bowl!!!!!!!!!!!!

since all problems with the team stem from Cassel, we are looking at going undefeated the rest of the year and making the playoffs.

PBJ PBJ

LMAO

L.A. Chieffan
11-14-2011, 02:19 PM
people are delusional. cassel gives us the best chance to win.

munkey
11-14-2011, 02:19 PM
THERE IS A GOD!!!!!

ARROW2
11-14-2011, 02:20 PM
:clap::clap:PBJPBJ

Mr. Laz
11-14-2011, 02:20 PM
are you pretending to be as dumb as rerun?

or are you really that dumb?

becuase I thought you were pretending to be dumb, but now it seems you really are just that ****ing stupid
didn't answer the question

now that the root of all evil is gone, should the team be better? Especially with their HOF head coach no longer being handcuffed by Cassel.

Chiefnj2
11-14-2011, 02:20 PM
Interesting. I thought Cassel was on 810 this morning saying he was preparing to play Monday night.

Showtime
11-14-2011, 02:20 PM
evansilvaEvan Silva

Matt Cassel due $5.25 million in base salary next season. Do #Chiefs pay it or cut him?

munkey
11-14-2011, 02:20 PM
people are delusional. cassel gives us the best chance to win.


you likey bad rep...

L.A. Chieffan
11-14-2011, 02:20 PM
Super Bowl!!!!!!!!!!!!

since all problems with the team stem from Cassel, we are looking at going undefeated the rest of the year and making the playoffs.

PBJ PBJ

this is terrible news, im not sure why you would be happy or believe this is going to make us better :shake:

kysirsoze
11-14-2011, 02:20 PM
BREAK A HANDZI 4 STANZI!!!

BoneKrusher
11-14-2011, 02:20 PM
how Convenient if this is true.

the tough part of the schedule coming up and he looked worse than dogshit vs the weak part of the schedule.

hope its true.

the Talking Can
11-14-2011, 02:20 PM
4-12


make it happen

Priest31kc
11-14-2011, 02:20 PM
people are delusional. cassel gives us the best chance to win.

This just in: We're not going to be winning very much the rest of the season. Lets see what Palko & hopefully Stanzi can do.

ARROW2
11-14-2011, 02:21 PM
people are delusional. cassel gives us the best chance to win.





LMAOLMAOLMAOLMAOLMAOLMAOROFLROFLROFLROFL

loochy
11-14-2011, 02:21 PM
people are delusional. cassel gives us the best chance to win.

Yeah, the best chance to win a tiny bit RIGHT NOW.

It's time to move on and start looking to something else. WTF is it with some of you not being able to look past this season?

L.A. Chieffan
11-14-2011, 02:21 PM
you likey bad rep...

you likey to lose and suck

Reerun_KC
11-14-2011, 02:21 PM
for what?

I'm ecstatic...we're one step closer to drafting a QB

you're sad because you think Cassel just needs a better OL

I am thrilled that we are rid of Cassel... IF you could fucking read...

But I am still concerned about this shit we call an OL.. Which has been neglected since Grandpa left...

Three7s
11-14-2011, 02:22 PM
you likey to lose and suck
You're an idiot.

L.A. Chieffan
11-14-2011, 02:22 PM
This just in: We're not going to be winning very much the rest of the season. Lets see what Palko & hopefully Stanzi can do.

by your rationale if cassel sucks so bad and palko and stanzi cant even beat him out than that means they suck even worse than cassel! brilliant!

Caseyguyrr
11-14-2011, 02:22 PM
nick wright is laying into cassel right now

loochy
11-14-2011, 02:23 PM
I am thrilled that we are rid of Cassel... IF you could fucking read...

But I am still concerned about this shit we call an OL.. Which has been neglected since Grandpa left...

Vermiel for OC, problem solved. :D

NJChiefsFan
11-14-2011, 02:23 PM
didn't answer the question

now that the root of all evil is gone, should the team be better? Especially with their HOF head coach no longer being handcuffed by Cassel.

I would say you are certainly twisting most people's words here. Maybe not everyone but most people. The idea has never been that Cassel was the only issue. Especially on a team missing Berry, Charles, and Moeaki. It still needs a RT, NT, and OLB. With a healthy team and decent QB, yeah, we are a shit ton better than with Cassel. Without fixing those other 3 spots we arent SB ready.

Expecting the next few weeks to prove that Cassel was the problem is completely twisting the situation trying to make Cassel look good. Its a weak attempt to prove it at that.

L.A. Chieffan
11-14-2011, 02:23 PM
Yeah, the best chance to win a tiny bit RIGHT NOW.

It's time to move on and start looking to something else. WTF is it with some of you not being able to look past this season?

oh sure palko is the future...

Reerun_KC
11-14-2011, 02:23 PM
evansilvaEvan Silva

Matt Cassel due $5.25 million in base salary next season. Do #Chiefs pay it or cut him?

You cut him...

No question.

You cut Palko as well.

Draft a QB, Stanzi #2 and hope to God Zorn can work miracles.

L.A. Chieffan
11-14-2011, 02:23 PM
evansilvaEvan Silva

Matt Cassel due $5.25 million in base salary next season. Do #Chiefs pay it or cut him?

i hope they keep him

loochy
11-14-2011, 02:23 PM
oh sure palko is the future...

probably not...quit playing dumb

Predarat
11-14-2011, 02:24 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v336/Predarat5/bye.jpg

Reerun_KC
11-14-2011, 02:24 PM
nick wright is laying into cassel right now

NW is a bleeding panzy...

a one armed Cassel could kick his ass... He shouldnt be laying into anyone...

Frosty
11-14-2011, 02:24 PM
how Convenient if this is true.

the tough part of the schedule coming up and he looked worse than dogshit vs the weak part of the schedule.

hope its true.

Yeah, right before the tough stretch. ROFL

Way to protect the "franchise" QB.

I am really worried that this would mean Cassel is back next year with his injury (and the injuries to Charles and Moeaki) as excuses for this season.

L.A. Chieffan
11-14-2011, 02:24 PM
You cut him...

No question.

You cut Palko as well.

Draft a QB, Stanzi #2 and hope to God Zorn can work miracles.

cut your only qbs with actual game experience and play essentially two rookies. brilliant!

Iowanian
11-14-2011, 02:25 PM
I don't support rooting for an injury or being glad a Chief is injured. It's low rent.


that said, the Chiefs are going nowhere with Cassel. I would prefer a QB of an NFL team that was at least good enough to be a starter for his College team. Cassel might be a decent backup, but if the management isn't trying to bufu the fan base, they have to make a change. They need O-line and a QB and the returning injured players.

Time to find out if Stanzi can play. We know Palko is what Palko is.....and it's not that answer.

kcxiv
11-14-2011, 02:25 PM
I dont like wishing injury on anyone, but fuck yes!!!!!!!!! It has to be the Rookie IF not, he will be, because ughh, Palko isnt going to cut it either. haha

NJChiefsFan
11-14-2011, 02:25 PM
by your rationale if cassel sucks so bad and palko and stanzi cant even beat him out than that means they suck even worse than cassel! brilliant!

Palko sucks. Stanzi is a rookie QB. Yay Matt is better than that, how lucky we all are. Who gives one crap who gives us a better chance to lose by the least amount the next stretch of games. This is about our future and Matt isn't it.

If Stanzi comes in and does well then super terrific. The big story here is the possibility of Matt finally being cleared out of the way for a new QB of the future, and the reality is this news doesn't even promise that.

BigMeatballDave
11-14-2011, 02:25 PM
i hope they keep him

I hope you die in a fire.

munkey
11-14-2011, 02:25 PM
you likey to lose and suck

:LOL:

dallaschiefsfan
11-14-2011, 02:26 PM
I'm pretty sure that Cassel has seen his last snap as a Kansas City Chief. This is the out that allows Pioli to save face.

I hope Stanzi gets a look. He's not the savior. But if he does ok, he represents a good number 2 for the future. Palko has no future as a Super Bowl backup. Let's move on. If Stanzi out-performs his draft position, then all the better.

lcarus
11-14-2011, 02:26 PM
oh sure palko is the future...

All we know is that Cassel is NOT. Palko isn't either. We should just play Stanzi. Who gives a shit if he isn't "ready". Get him some real playing time and give him a look.

loochy
11-14-2011, 02:26 PM
Palko sucks. Stanzi is a rookie QB. Yay Matt is better than that, how lucky we all are. Who gives one crap who gives us a better chance to lose by the least amount the next stretch of games. This is about our future and Matt isn't it.

If Stanzi comes in and does well then super terrific. The big story here is the possibility of Matt finally being cleared out of the way for a new QB of the future, and the reality is this news doesn't even promise that.

yes

Three7s
11-14-2011, 02:26 PM
oh sure palko is the future...
Let me get it through your skull so that even your vagina sized brain can understand it. We're going 4-12 WITH CASSEL despite how great you might think he is. Starting Palko or Stanzi for the rest of the season has no ill effects because of this fact. Do you get it now?

This is the chance Chiefs fans have been waiting for to see what they have, in Stanzi at least. If you were actually delusional enough to think Cassel can beat any team left on our schedule, then you're far more of a homer than anyone else I know.

kcxiv
11-14-2011, 02:26 PM
WHen are people going to realize dude is just trolling about the cassel love haha

Showtime
11-14-2011, 02:26 PM
To all the people think haley is getting fired are fucked now. Cant fire a coach losing his starting qb and rb.

Iowanian
11-14-2011, 02:26 PM
Haley just said "they are very encouraged about Ricky but Palko is definitely next in line"


They're glad he's on the team, he's clearly making strides and he's the guy they want on their team.....but heaven forbid he get some snaps for nothing else but experience.

On 2nd thought, maybe the next 5 games are better to get Palko destroyed instead of ruining a Rookie.

L.A. Chieffan
11-14-2011, 02:26 PM
All we know is that Cassel is NOT.

we dont know that

KC Tattoo
11-14-2011, 02:27 PM
oh sure palko is the future...

Nobody cares about Palko, but this gives Stanzi a better chance of getting on the field. That's a good thing if Stanzi gets to play.

Palko may just do better than Cassel, wouldn't take much.

KChiefs1
11-14-2011, 02:27 PM
Will 4-12 get us Luck?

Chiefnj2
11-14-2011, 02:27 PM
They need to play Palko the next 3 weeks while Stanzi gets some reps in practice and starts learning an abbreviated playbook. All the stuff Cassel should have been doing with the poor protection - 3 step drops, slants, Dex in space, Battle between the tackles.

NJChiefsFan
11-14-2011, 02:27 PM
oh sure palko is the future...

Who the hell said that haha. Stop twisting words to win an arguement. The thought process isn't about who helps us this year and it shouldn't be.

loochy
11-14-2011, 02:27 PM
we dont know that

yes we do

IPwnFools
11-14-2011, 02:27 PM
Thanks for winning those 4 games, Matt. Which blow the Chiefs shot at an elite QB prospect!

- Raider Nation

L.A. Chieffan
11-14-2011, 02:27 PM
Let me get it through your skull so that even your vagina sized brain can understand it. We're going 4-12 WITH CASSEL despite how great you might think he is. Starting Palko or Stanzi for the rest of the season has no ill effects because of this fact. Do you get it now?

This is the chance Chiefs fans have been waiting for to see what they have, in Stanzi at least. If you were actually delusional enough to think Cassel can beat any team left on our schedule, then you're far more of a homer than anyone else I know.

so you WANT us to lose? we cant even get Luck so you just want us to lose to lose. great fan there bud

Swanman
11-14-2011, 02:27 PM
Your and idiot.

FYP

L.A. Chieffan
11-14-2011, 02:28 PM
yes we do

no we dont

suds79
11-14-2011, 02:28 PM
Will 4-12 get us Luck?

No.

But I'm pumped that I don't have to see Matt play anymore... Hoping so much right now I never see him in KC red again.

Reerun_KC
11-14-2011, 02:28 PM
Haley just said "they are very encouraged about Ricky but Palko is definitely next in line"


They're glad he's on the team, he's clearly making strides and he's the guy they want on their team.....but heaven forbid he get some snaps for nothing else but experience.

On 2nd thought, maybe the next 5 games are better to get Palko destroyed instead of ruining a Rookie.

Who cares?

Play him...

NJChiefsFan
11-14-2011, 02:28 PM
we dont know that

What the hell player have you watched the past 3 years? Do you think a 30 year old is going to improve, when he hasn't shown any improving on the important things a QB needs even with Zorn here? Do you honestly think the odds of him becoming a SB quality QB are worth investing another year or two? Our young good players aren't going to be here for 10 years, you can't just dick around at the most important position on the team.

Showtime
11-14-2011, 02:29 PM
LOL where is my good rep for posting this ..............

Three7s
11-14-2011, 02:29 PM
so you WANT us to lose? we cant even get Luck so you just want us to lose to lose. great fan there bud
I'm a FAN that is sick and tired of not having a half-way decent QB. Have fun with your mediocre piece of shit.

L.A. Chieffan
11-14-2011, 02:30 PM
What the hell player have you watched the past 3 years. Do you think a 30 year old is going to improve, when he hasn't shown any improving on the important things a QB needs even with Zorn here? Do you honestly think the odds of him becoming a SB quality QB are worth investing another year or two? Our young good players aren't going to be here for 10 years, you can't just dick around at the most important position on the team.

did you see what he could do with an established HC and OC and some protection? he could do that here too if you just gave him a chance and a little support

tk13
11-14-2011, 02:30 PM
A silver lining in this is we might see something from Stanzi... although I have my doubts considering he's a 5th round pick who I think they expect to hold a clipboard all year.

The bad news is we're going into the toughest part of our schedule. Both of these guys might get eaten alive and we don't really learn much about them. You have to think Palko will definitely get a crack at it first.

Showtime
11-14-2011, 02:32 PM
kentbabbKent Babb

I will tweet this once and once only: Ricky Stanzi is not a candidate to start or even play. Will not factor in the rest of the way.

suds79
11-14-2011, 02:32 PM
did you see what he could do with an established HC and OC and some protection? he could do that here too if you just gave him a chance and a little support

So all the circumstances have to be ideal for Matt to succeed because he's not good enough to make any plays on his own.... Got it. :thumb:

Don't forget when everything was working for Matt last year, he was horrible in the beginning and at the end when we needed him most.

BillSelfsTrophycase
11-14-2011, 02:32 PM
http://www3.picturepush.com/photo/a/6434851/480/Madden-12/Ricky-Stanzi.png?v0

Iconic
11-14-2011, 02:32 PM
Palko will play most of the games... Stanzi will get a few reps in the last two. Stop being so delusional dumbass's.

FAX
11-14-2011, 02:32 PM
Does this mean Cassel will get another chance next year? If so, ****.

It means two things;

1) Cassel will get another opportunity in 2012

2) The Mayans were right.

FAX

Pants
11-14-2011, 02:32 PM
You said yourself that this team has playoff talent and that Cassel was the problem.

changing your mind?

Laz, this team has playoff talent, but to be in the playoffs we need a QB. Nothing has changed with Cassel getting hurt, we still need a QB. I hope that clarified his point for you.

munkey
11-14-2011, 02:33 PM
at the end of the day...GM's like Scott have a opinion on who can best serve the needs of a team at a given time...Matt filled that AT THE TIME...his time is over...I hope.

NJChiefsFan
11-14-2011, 02:33 PM
did you see what he could do with an established HC and OC and some protection? he could do that here too if you just gave him a chance and a little support

So we are supposed to wait for a BB and McDaniels along with one of the sickest supporting casts any offense has had in quite some time? He has some pretty decent weapons and even when he has time he can't get the ball to them at nearly the quality a QB should in this league. The reason Bowe and Baldwin have to make great catches is because of his throws. That sick catch yesterday should have been Baldwin catching it on the run because he beat his DB yet he had to come back and catch it behind the guy.

My friend is a die-hard Pats fan and I watched Cassel a ton in NE that year. I didn't see him playing better than he is right now, he just had different players around him and we aren't getting that. He isn't good enough and is going to be 30. He isn't going to change.

tk13
11-14-2011, 02:33 PM
kentbabbKent Babb

I will tweet this once and once only: Ricky Stanzi is not a candidate to start or even play. Will not factor in the rest of the way.

He will when Palko gets blindsided because he can't see Richardson getting whipped like a post behind him.

Chiefnj2
11-14-2011, 02:34 PM
A silver lining in this is we might see something from Stanzi... although I have my doubts considering he's a 5th round pick who I think they expect to hold a clipboard all year.

The bad news is we're going into the toughest part of our schedule. Both of these guys might get eaten alive and we don't really learn much about them. You have to think Palko will definitely get a crack at it first.

You never know. I posted a link this morning to a predraft nfl network interview where they were talking about the 2nd tier QB's - Ponder, Stanzi, Dalton and Kaepernick. The "experts" said Ponder was no longer 2nd tier he was a 1st tier guy, they liked Stanzi over Dalton and felt that of the 4 Stanzi was the most NFL ready if forced to start day 1.

The other QB's have survived and flashed, maybe Stanzi can if given the opportunity. I'm not confident that Muir and Haley are the guys to do it though.

KC Tattoo
11-14-2011, 02:34 PM
so you WANT us to lose? we cant even get Luck so you just want us to lose to lose. great fan there bud

Setting ourselves up for potential QBotf for Super Bowl ambitions > Cassels chances to win a game.

NJChiefsFan
11-14-2011, 02:34 PM
kentbabbKent Babb

I will tweet this once and once only: Ricky Stanzi is not a candidate to start or even play. Will not factor in the rest of the way.

That was the case with Palko up until yesterday. Never know what is going to happen.

mikey23545
11-14-2011, 02:35 PM
getnickwrightnick wright


RT @kentbabb Haley says Cassel has "significant" hand injury that could end his season. Not sure in that yet.

If my erection hasn't gone away in 4 hours should I consult a doctor?

KC Tattoo
11-14-2011, 02:35 PM
It means two things;

1) Cassel will get another opportunity in 2012

2) The Mayans were right.

FAX

I'm rooting for the Mayans if 1) is what we get.

munkey
11-14-2011, 02:35 PM
did you see what he could do with an established HC and OC and some protection? he could do that here too if you just gave him a chance and a little support

Talk about SPIN...WOW...:shake:

Pants
11-14-2011, 02:35 PM
So nothing has changed. This team still has no QB.

loochy
11-14-2011, 02:35 PM
kentbabbKent Babb

I will tweet this once and once only: Ricky Stanzi is not a candidate to start or even play. Will not factor in the rest of the way.

Sooo...what happens when Palko gets smashed?

WTF did he even get drafted then?

L.A. Chieffan
11-14-2011, 02:36 PM
its not cassels fault that the defense and ol sucks.

with all the injuries to key players we should trade up into the 1st round and probably take a couple of OL in the top 10 or 15 and give Cassel a couple more seasons wiwth the same OC. Only then would we know for sure

tk13
11-14-2011, 02:36 PM
You never know. I posted a link this morning to a predraft nfl network interview where they were talking about the 2nd tier QB's - Ponder, Stanzi, Dalton and Kaepernick. The "experts" said Ponder was no longer 2nd tier he was a 1st tier guy, they liked Stanzi over Dalton and felt that of the 4 Stanzi was the most NFL ready if forced to start day 1.

The other QB's have survived and flashed, maybe Stanzi can if given the opportunity. I'm not confident that Muir and Haley are the guys to do it though.

I hope he does. That would be great for this franchise. But realistically, I truly can't think of a situation in recent NFL history where a 5th round pick succeeded at QB his rookie season. Maybe there's one out there. Several 5th and 6th round guys have made it, but as far as I see... pretty much all of them sat for a year or two to learn the game.

Predarat
11-14-2011, 02:36 PM
I STILL think Castle is better then Elvis.

Pants
11-14-2011, 02:36 PM
its not cassels fault that the defense and ol sucks.

with all the injuries to key players we should trade up into the 1st round and probably take a couple of OL in the top 10 or 15 and give Cassel a couple more seasons wiwth the same OC. Only then would we know for sure

LMAO

Mr. Laz
11-14-2011, 02:36 PM
I would say you are certainly twisting most people's words here.
am i? Plenty of posts around ....

Every single thing that happens in a football game is due to every factor before it. Every player who misses a tackle and gives up a first down, or fails to get pressure on a QB who then passes for a first down... those players are responsible for the decisions made on the other end of the ball. HOWEVER, there is one position that holds the ball longer than any other, and that's the QB. When the QB is struggling, plays are adjusted from the sideline to accomodate. When the QB is struggling, the opposing team calls more blitzes, sells out to the run, and three-and-outs are commonplace. A great QB on a bad team gets sacked often, but can win games on his own. They're likely a few pieces from being a contender. A bad QB on a good team is exploited and manipulated, like what you see today. Every team that's had success against us has done it by obsessively attacking Cassel. Were he mentally strong, he'd adjust and we'd have BLOWN. THEM. OUT. I can't state that enough-- the blitzes we're seeing, were they against Peyton Manning, would result in absolute blowouts. The mismatches that fire and house blitzes create should be exploited at every instance. Cassel has consistently shown no ability to handle pressure, so every team will continue that gameplan. It causes EVERY FACET of our team to stutter

FringeNC
11-14-2011, 02:36 PM
Cassel said he was going to be ready for Monday night. Anyway this injury is a face-saving benching?

Carlota69
11-14-2011, 02:37 PM
BREAK A HANDZI 4 STANZI!!!

YES!!!:LOL:

kysirsoze
11-14-2011, 02:37 PM
kentbabbKent Babb

I will tweet this once and once only: Ricky Stanzi is not a candidate to start or even play. Will not factor in the rest of the way.

Until Tyler Palko fucks up twice as badly as Cassel.

King_Chief_Fan
11-14-2011, 02:37 PM
Yeah, right before the tough stretch. ROFL

Way to protect the "franchise" QB.

I am really worried that this would mean Cassel is back next year with his injury (and the injuries to Charles and Moeaki) as excuses for this season.
I wouldn't be the least bit surprised about this...

probably not...quit playing dumb

this caused me to laugh out loud

wazu
11-14-2011, 02:37 PM
Will 4-12 get us Luck?

Nope. Indy is practically already on the clock.

NJChiefsFan
11-14-2011, 02:37 PM
Palko will play most of the games... Stanzi will get a few reps in the last two. Stop being so delusional dumbass's.

Dumbasses*. Its important to spell correctly when calling someone dumb.

loochy
11-14-2011, 02:38 PM
its not cassels fault that the defense and ol sucks.

with all the injuries to key players we should trade up into the 1st round and probably take a couple of OL in the top 10 or 15 and give Cassel a couple more seasons wiwth the same OC. Only then would we know for sure

stop trolling

petegz28
11-14-2011, 02:38 PM
Good news is...Stanzi will start getting some reps with the 1's in practice now.

Molitoth
11-14-2011, 02:38 PM
kentbabbKent Babb

I will tweet this once and once only: Ricky Stanzi is not a candidate to start or even play. Will not factor in the rest of the way.

WTF is the deal with Stanzi and Powe being inactive????

Are they really THAT BAD??? WTF?

the Talking Can
11-14-2011, 02:38 PM
1. lose games
2. draft first round QB
3. ?????
4. profit



watch true fans like reerun and laz cry

Showtime
11-14-2011, 02:38 PM
greggrosenthalgregg rosenthal


Tyler Palko will start back-to-back primetime games. Get ready, America.

munkey
11-14-2011, 02:38 PM
I STILL think Castle is better then Elvis.

STATS PLEASE...

Reerun_KC
11-14-2011, 02:39 PM
1. lose games
2. draft first round QB
3. ?????
4. profit



watch true fans like reerun and laz cry

Cry about what?

Please explain?

keg in kc
11-14-2011, 02:39 PM
This is karma's way of giving us what we wished for.

mikeyis4dcats.
11-14-2011, 02:39 PM
what's Thigpen up to these days? :)

King_Chief_Fan
11-14-2011, 02:40 PM
If my erection hasn't gone away in 4 hours should I consult a doctor?

no, you contact the guiness world record book and start bragging.

loochy
11-14-2011, 02:40 PM
I STILL think Castle is better then Elvis.

Wow, really? Grbac was a mental wuss and a complete douchebag, but he wasn't all that bad...

FAX
11-14-2011, 02:40 PM
If (and it is an "if") Cassel is out for the year, it's unreasonable to expect that we are going to play any better with Palko or Stanzi under center.

However, I don't think we'll play any worse.

That, in and of itself, is telling.

FAX

NJChiefsFan
11-14-2011, 02:40 PM
am i? Plenty of posts around ....

I said most people, not everyone. I am aware of the lack of quality in hate of Cassel and in blind faith.

its not cassels fault that the defense and ol sucks.

with all the injuries to key players we should trade up into the 1st round and probably take a couple of OL in the top 10 or 15 and give Cassel a couple more seasons wiwth the same OC. Only then would we know for sure

So you really think its worth spending another 2 to 3 years on him just in case? Do you not watch how he throws when he has time or just see him get sacked and every other play is then on the OL? It isn't Matt's fault the OL sucks but its also not the OL's fault that when there is time Matt can't throw the ball.

loochy
11-14-2011, 02:41 PM
If (and it is an "if") Cassel is out for the year, it's unreasonable to expect that we are going to play any better with Palko or Stanzi under center.

However, I don't think we'll play any worse.

That, in and of itself, is telling.

FAX

This. What, are we gonna score only like 3 points a game or something?

L.A. Chieffan
11-14-2011, 02:41 PM
stop trolling

this is a proven formula for success you just have to give it a shot

Iowanian
11-14-2011, 02:41 PM
If we're breaking in a new QB....I say it's time to also sit down the aging center and give Hudson and some of the other young depth players all of the snaps they can handle.

Reerun_KC
11-14-2011, 02:42 PM
This is karma's way of giving us what we wished for.

Looks that way...

FringeNC
11-14-2011, 02:42 PM
Palko > Flacco

Was Wannstedt the coach then?

KC Tattoo
11-14-2011, 02:42 PM
Goal post everywhere let off a 'sigh' of relief.

tk13
11-14-2011, 02:42 PM
greggrosenthalgregg rosenthal


Tyler Palko will start back-to-back primetime games. Get ready, America.

I fully expect for people to be calling for Stanzi after the Steeler game. That might be a 7/21, 3 INT type game waiting to happen.

dallaschiefsfan
11-14-2011, 02:42 PM
kentbabbKent Babb

I will tweet this once and once only: Ricky Stanzi is not a candidate to start or even play. Will not factor in the rest of the way.

He HAS to be referring to Monday night. This is highly unlikely for the rest of the season.

kysirsoze
11-14-2011, 02:42 PM
I said most people, not everyone. I am aware of the lack of quality in hate of Cassel and in blind faith.



So you really think its worth spending another 2 to 3 years on him just in case? Do you not watch how he throws when he has time or just see him get sacked and every other play is then on the OL? It isn't Matt's fault the OL sucks but its also not the OL's fault that when there is time Matt can't throw the ball.

Holy Christ, dude...


HE IS TROLLING THE SHIT OUT OF YOU.

L.A. Chieffan
11-14-2011, 02:43 PM
I said most people, not everyone. I am aware of the lack of quality in hate of Cassel and in blind faith.



So you really think its worth spending another 2 to 3 years on him just in case? Do you not watch how he throws when he has time or just see him get sacked and every other play is then on the OL? It isn't Matt's fault the OL sucks but its also not the OL's fault that when there is time Matt can't throw the ball.

sometimes you have to take a sack to avoid a turnover. sacks are good sometimes, hes just playing smart football hes a heady player

munkey
11-14-2011, 02:43 PM
If (and it is an "if") Cassel is out for the year, it's unreasonable to expect that we are going to play any better with Palko or Stanzi under center.

However, I don't think we'll play any worse.

That, in and of itself, is telling.

FAX

This...

Really...how can it be any worse than it is now?

Dayze
11-14-2011, 02:43 PM
KK "my coaching list would start and end with Bill Cowher"

lol.

the Talking Can
11-14-2011, 02:43 PM
i hope they find aids when they do surgery on his hand...

NJChiefsFan
11-14-2011, 02:43 PM
Holy Christ, dude...


HE IS TROLLING THE SHIT OUT OF YOU.

It seems that way. He seems good at considering that 8 other people have been going back and forth with him.

kysirsoze
11-14-2011, 02:44 PM
i hope they find aids when they do surgery on his hand...

lmao

loochy
11-14-2011, 02:44 PM
i hope they find aids when they do surgery on his hand...

when they cut him open he will bleed antifreeze.

KC Tattoo
11-14-2011, 02:45 PM
If we're breaking in a new QB....I say it's time to also sit down the aging center and give Hudson and some of the other young depth players all of the snaps they can handle.

:thumb:

munkey
11-14-2011, 02:45 PM
sometimes you have to take a sack to avoid a turnover. sacks are good sometimes, hes just playing smart football hes a heady player

Your a fucking dumbass...that or Matt Casshole himself...:shake:

petegz28
11-14-2011, 02:45 PM
If we're breaking in a new QB....I say it's time to also sit down the aging center and give Hudson and some of the other young depth players all of the snaps they can handle.

Yep. Time to activate Powe as well.

the Talking Can
11-14-2011, 02:45 PM
when they cut him open he will bleed antifreeze.

they'll find Cowher moving into his new house in Olathe...

Three7s
11-14-2011, 02:45 PM
what's Thigpen up to these days? :)
Chilling in Buffalo with his bff Chan Gailey.

the Talking Can
11-14-2011, 02:46 PM
jesus fucking christmas in november

L.A. Chieffan
11-14-2011, 02:46 PM
Your a fucking dumbass...that or Matt Casshole himself...:shake:

sure, insult me if it makes you feel better bro but at least im a real fan of this team

petegz28
11-14-2011, 02:46 PM
Your a ****ing dumbass...that or Matt Casshole himself...:shake:

Actually sometimes it IS good to take a sack. Not very many scenarios but they do exist. Save timeouts. Don't risk a fumble or intereption or grounding. There are times.

Showtime
11-14-2011, 02:47 PM
Barry Richardson has become our QB's blindside protector Stanzi will see the field

Molitoth
11-14-2011, 02:47 PM
Holy Christ, dude...


HE IS TROLLING THE SHIT OUT OF YOU.

My assessment is that he is just a big f*cking idiot; not a troll.

Cave Johnson
11-14-2011, 02:47 PM
greggrosenthalgregg rosenthal

Tyler Palko will start back-to-back primetime games. Get ready, America.

a) Picking up NE's D as we speak

b) Mortal lock the Pitt game is flexed out.

Three7s
11-14-2011, 02:47 PM
sure, insult me if it makes you feel better bro but at least im a real fan of this team
Clark Hunt loves "real fans" like you. Helps to fill up his wallet.

tk13
11-14-2011, 02:47 PM
I definitely wouldn't say "How could it get worse?" People might be eating those words in a couple weeks. It can definitely get, much, much worse I think. Just look at the Colts. These last two weeks have been a disaster but I think it can get worse. We could be getting plastered 62-0 on national TV... which actually we'll get a chance to do here coming up.

loochy
11-14-2011, 02:47 PM
sure, insult me if it makes you feel better bro but at least im a real fan of this team

ok now i KNOW he's trolling LMAO

NJChiefsFan
11-14-2011, 02:47 PM
Barry Richardson has become our QB's blindside protector Stanzi will see the field

It certainly would be foolish to bet that Palko will make it through that stretch of games.

kysirsoze
11-14-2011, 02:48 PM
It seems that way. He seems good at considering that 8 other people have been going back and forth with him.

He's been doing it in multiple threads all day. IIRC he's as big a Cassel hater as Talking Can. (If possible)

Shogun
11-14-2011, 02:48 PM
http://www.pitch.com/imager/chiefs-quarterback-ricky-stanzi-america-thats-the-only-place-ill-go/b/original/2578588/f30b/americanzi.jpg

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs610.snc4/58990_888212428159_14804499_48688922_3034267_n.jpg

http://img686.imageshack.us/img686/4399/americanzi.jpg

the Talking Can
11-14-2011, 02:48 PM
Carl fired>Herm fired>Cassel out>Greg Robinson fired>Pollard cut>brian shay let go

munkey
11-14-2011, 02:48 PM
sure, insult me if it makes you feel better bro but at least im a real fan of this team

a real fan? really? ROFL

how are you a REAL fan? tell me?

Showtime
11-14-2011, 02:48 PM
a) Picking up NE's D as we speak

b) Mortal lock the Pitt game is flexed out.

B.NBC is keeping us on sunday night came out today and said it.

loochy
11-14-2011, 02:48 PM
I definitely wouldn't say "How could it get worse?" People might be eating those words in a couple weeks. It can definitely get, much, much worse I think. Just look at the Colts. These last two weeks have been a disaster but I think it can get worse. We could be getting plastered 62-0 on national TV... which actually we'll get a chance to do here coming up.

Yeah but the colts get luck

FringeNC
11-14-2011, 02:49 PM
I definitely wouldn't say "How could it get worse?" People might be eating those words in a couple weeks. It can definitely get, much, much worse I think. Just look at the Colts. These last two weeks have been a disaster but I think it can get worse. We could be getting plastered 62-0 on national TV... which actually we'll get a chance to do here coming up.

Seriously, it can't get worse. Sure, with turnovers and bad defense, the final score can be worse, but the offensive ineptitude CANNOT be worse. 3.3 yards per attempt with Cassel against a bad Denver D? Are you kidding me? That's HORRIFIC.

L.A. Chieffan
11-14-2011, 02:49 PM
Actually sometimes it IS good to take a sack. Not very many scenarios but they do exist. Save timeouts. Don't risk a fumble or intereption or grounding. There are times.

see im not a dumbass people DO agree with me

kysirsoze
11-14-2011, 02:49 PM
Yeah but the colts get luck

And they're intentionally tanking.

Mr. Laz
11-14-2011, 02:50 PM
NFL Primetime: 'Cassel is going to need surgery(on hand) and will miss extensive time'

Carlota69
11-14-2011, 02:50 PM
He HAS to be referring to Monday night. This is highly unlikely for the rest of the season.
Monday and the following Sunday night vs. Pittsburgh.

mikeyis4dcats.
11-14-2011, 02:50 PM
see im not a dumbass people DO agree with me

That's Pete. Pete is not people.

L.A. Chieffan
11-14-2011, 02:50 PM
a real fan? really? ROFL

how are you a REAL fan? tell me?

i root for my team to win instead of rooting for them to suck

keg in kc
11-14-2011, 02:50 PM
I fully expect for people to be calling for Stanzi after the Steeler game. That might be a 7/21, 3 INT type game waiting to happen.Yeah. I might say Palko could have a decent game or two until the league gets film on him, but it's the patriots (even down defensively, they'll scheme all kinds of crazy shit) and steelers. It wouldn't suprise me to see him have 5 or 6 picks total the next two weeks, if they let him throw the ball and we're not in full Tebow mode.

So yeah, I'm going to go against the grain here and say it can get worse. Hopefully it doesn't. Hopefully he goes out there and looks like Elway.

Well, on the good side, at least I'll have a few extra hours free on Sundays for the rest of the year. Not that I didn't already I guess, but now it's gone from hoping for a fluke win to "well, I might keep in on if we're not down 14 5 minutes in".

NJChiefsFan
11-14-2011, 02:50 PM
a) Picking up NE's D as we speak

b) Mortal lock the Pitt game is flexed out.

Read tweet from Teicher today saying that game is staying as Sunday Night. Steelers draw too well.

I definitely wouldn't say "How could it get worse?" People might be eating those words in a couple weeks. It can definitely get, much, much worse I think. Just look at the Colts. These last two weeks have been a disaster but I think it can get worse. We could be getting plastered 62-0 on national TV... which actually we'll get a chance to do here coming up.

This is a long term issue. How we look shortterm isnt the concern.

Setsuna
11-14-2011, 02:50 PM
Just got ESPN text. "Chiefs coach Todd Haley says QB Matt Cassel could miss remainder of the season."

Carlota69
11-14-2011, 02:51 PM
a) Picking up NE's D as we speak

b) Mortal lock the Pitt game is flexed out.
They already announced they werent going to flex the Sunday night game. its going to happen

the Talking Can
11-14-2011, 02:51 PM
palko is a terrible QB...don't kid yourself

Mr. Laz
11-14-2011, 02:51 PM
And they're intentionally tanking.
Hope the NFL starts a lottery and the Colts get the 5th pick. :p

munkey
11-14-2011, 02:51 PM
I definitely wouldn't say "How could it get worse?" People might be eating those words in a couple weeks. It can definitely get, much, much worse I think. Just look at the Colts. These last two weeks have been a disaster but I think it can get worse. We could be getting plastered 62-0 on national TV... which actually we'll get a chance to do here coming up.


I would rather watch this team get it's ass kicked every week knowing it's going to happen...get it?

Showtime
11-14-2011, 02:51 PM
Just got ESPN text. "Chiefs coach Todd Haley says QB Matt Cassel could miss remainder of the season."

welcome to 2011

FAX
11-14-2011, 02:51 PM
I definitely wouldn't say "How could it get worse?" People might be eating those words in a couple weeks. It can definitely get, much, much worse I think. Just look at the Colts. These last two weeks have been a disaster but I think it can get worse. We could be getting plastered 62-0 on national TV... which actually we'll get a chance to do here coming up.

I don't know ... does 62 - 0 feel all that much worse than say ... 41 - 7 or 48 - 3?

It wouldn't to me.

As for the national tv stuff, we were just ass raped by a winless Miami team and the Tebows at home. And we didn't look good doing it.

I don't see how it can be any worse.

FAX

NJChiefsFan
11-14-2011, 02:52 PM
He's been doing it in multiple threads all day. IIRC he's as big a Cassel hater as Talking Can. (If possible)

There are some good ones on this board. I literally can not ignore Knowmo if my life depended on it.

petegz28
11-14-2011, 02:52 PM
That's Pete. Pete is not people.

I'm to good to a people!!! :p

mikeyis4dcats.
11-14-2011, 02:52 PM
call me crazy, but I think there has to be a reason Stanzi is inactive. Either hurt or just unable to grasp the playbook.

BoneKrusher
11-14-2011, 02:52 PM
Yeah, right before the tough stretch. ROFL

Way to protect the "franchise" QB.

I am really worried that this would mean Cassel is back next year with his injury (and the injuries to Charles and Moeaki) as excuses for this season.

i sure hope not, i want the Chiefs to be rid of Cassel for good.

Chiefnj2
11-14-2011, 02:53 PM
What vet can they bring in?

King_Chief_Fan
11-14-2011, 02:53 PM
http://www.pitch.com/imager/chiefs-quarterback-ricky-stanzi-america-thats-the-only-place-ill-go/b/original/2578588/f30b/americanzi.jpg

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs610.snc4/58990_888212428159_14804499_48688922_3034267_n.jpg

http://img686.imageshack.us/img686/4399/americanzi.jpg

he looks like a skinny armed sheep herder...very similar to Brokie

petegz28
11-14-2011, 02:53 PM
call me crazy, but I think there has to be a reason Stanzi is inactive. Either hurt or just unable to grasp the playbook.

Actually they were saying after the game yesterday that by not having a 3rd QB it allows something with the roster to allow you to activate more at other positions.

KCUnited
11-14-2011, 02:53 PM
Instead of rally towels, they'll be handing out rape kits for that Sunday night game.

Deberg_1990
11-14-2011, 02:53 PM
@kentbabb Haley says Chiefs "interested" in Brett Favre

Chiefnj2
11-14-2011, 02:53 PM
call me crazy, but I think there has to be a reason Stanzi is inactive. Either hurt or just unable to grasp the playbook.

The kid played in a pro style offense in college. If he's too dumb to grasp the Muir playbook they mis-evaluated big time.

keg in kc
11-14-2011, 02:54 PM
What vet can they bring in?Somebody check to see if Whitlock still has Jeff George handcuffed to his headboard.

Chiefnj2
11-14-2011, 02:54 PM
Drew Bledsoe was spotted in Lee's Summit house shopping this afternoon.

munkey
11-14-2011, 02:55 PM
i root for my team to win instead of rooting for them to suck

I don't want them to "suck"...BUT I want them to TRY...make adjustments...and if the first adjustment doesn't work go the the next one...IMO the last two losses are totally inexcusable...from player to coaching...

petegz28
11-14-2011, 02:55 PM
Nick Wright more or less ripping Stanzi

loochy
11-14-2011, 02:55 PM
@kentbabb Haley says Chiefs "interested" in Brett Favre

:spock:

W

T

F

Reerun_KC
11-14-2011, 02:55 PM
Well according to TTC, we should be able to compete and should be talking playoffs.

Reerun_KC
11-14-2011, 02:55 PM
Nick Wright more or less ripping Stanzi

For what?

tk13
11-14-2011, 02:56 PM
I stand by what I said. It can get worse. Our pass protection has been horrible. There's no guarantee these backups aren't going to get dinged around and we bring in someone off the street. Things like that. I'm not saying that's what will happen. But this team is playing horribly right now. We could very easily not learn anything about this team in these last few weeks. I just think it can get worse. Hopefully it doesn't.

loochy
11-14-2011, 02:56 PM
Nick Wright more or less ripping Stanzi

...from the prolific QB factory that is Iowa.

ROFL

petegz28
11-14-2011, 02:57 PM
For what?

There's a reason he hasn't been activated, he wasn't drafted to be the future, bla bla bla

Fritz88
11-14-2011, 02:57 PM
getnickwrightnick wright


RT @kentbabb Haley says Cassel has "significant" hand injury that could end his season. Not sure in that yet.

Thank you Von Miller.
Posted via Mobile Device

keg in kc
11-14-2011, 02:57 PM
For what?Come on, man, a 5th round QB is a complete bust if he isn't ready to start in the NFL after 9 games.


(note: this is complete sarcasm)

the Talking Can
11-14-2011, 02:57 PM
I stand by what I said. It can get worse. Our pass protection has been horrible. There's no guarantee these backups aren't going to get dinged around and we bring in someone off the street. Things like that. I'm not saying that's what will happen. We could very easily not learn anything about this team in these last few weeks. I just think it can get worse. Hopefully it doesn't.

it has to get worse


it's the only thing that will force this crap brained franchise to draft a QB

L.A. Chieffan
11-14-2011, 02:57 PM
i agree with hamas in the other thread i think, this might actually be a good thing because with the injury we should get cassel some more OL help in the draft and give him another shot next year

kysirsoze
11-14-2011, 02:58 PM
he looks like a skinny armed sheep herder...very similar to Brokie

NEG REP PILEON INCOMING

thabear04
11-14-2011, 02:58 PM
Just saw this from my phone... So who do we sign if Cassel out for the season? Matt Gutierrez?ROFL David Garrard?

Pants
11-14-2011, 02:58 PM
Well according to TTC, we should be able to compete and should be talking playoffs with a real quaterback.

FYP

Or were you just kidding again?

Reerun_KC
11-14-2011, 02:58 PM
i agree with hamas in the other thread i think, this might actually be a good thing because with the injury we should get cassel some more OL help in the draft and give him another shot next year

Dear God NO!!!!!

This is enough, its time to draft and develop a QB...

Enough of failures...

lcarus
11-14-2011, 02:58 PM
"The Chiefs didn't draft Stanzi to be their future. You don't take a QB from Iowa in the 5th round to be your future QB. Maybe your future backup."

Just because he's from Iowa and just because we drafted him in the 5th round does not mean he can't be a good NFL QB. He isn't going to be a good NFL QB this season. I don't expect that. But why not take a look at him in a real game situation if Cassel is out and Palko is sucking (likely scenario)?

munkey
11-14-2011, 02:59 PM
I stand by what I said. It can get worse. Our pass protection has been horrible. There's no guarantee these backups aren't going to get dinged around and we bring in someone off the street. Things like that. We could very easily not learn anything about this team in these last few years.

TK...

The OC SUCKS!!! A few quick slants will stop the pass rush...with the receiver corp we have why have we not seen that? Kinda like watching them hand the ball off to MC between the tackles...it's just fucking embarrassing...

tk13
11-14-2011, 02:59 PM
it has to get worse


it's the only thing that will force this crap brained franchise to draft a QB

That's certainly a fair argument, don't disagree with that at all. I'm just saying toward the people who think it can't get worse. You could have a guy out there throwing sub 50% completions and 2 INT a game. Crap like that.

Heck, everyone's hanging their hat on Stanzi, and he barely completed 50% of his preseason passes playing against grocery baggers.

Bane
11-14-2011, 02:59 PM
OH NO WE SUCK AGAIN!!!!


So what does that mean really?2-3 more years of Casshole?

keg in kc
11-14-2011, 03:00 PM
I stand by what I said. It can get worse. Our pass protection has been horrible. There's no guarantee these backups aren't going to get dinged around and we bring in someone off the street. Things like that. I'm not saying that's what will happen. But this team is playing horribly right now. We could very easily not learn anything about this team in these last few weeks. I just think it can get worse. Hopefully it doesn't.Lost in all this is the fact that it in no way guarantees that Cassel isn't still the starter again in 2012. Assuming it's an actual injury and not a benching due to "injury". Hell, if anything it's an actual out for them to bring him back next year.

Imagine the joy of reading all offseason about how Cassel's recovery is going and how the team is ready to compete with their returning hero at the helm.

Reerun_KC
11-14-2011, 03:00 PM
FYP

Or were you just kidding again?


Kidding...

I just hope all this celebration doesnt by Cassel another year under center.

We have a shitty string of Karma happening on this message board..

munkey
11-14-2011, 03:01 PM
i agree with hamas in the other thread i think, this might actually be a good thing because with the injury we should get cassel some more OL help in the draft and give him another shot next year


so...with that logic...what happened last year? OR do you even understand the question?

the Talking Can
11-14-2011, 03:01 PM
this is a gift


the only question is: will Pioli open it?

or is the GM who thought Cassel was a Franchise QB going to stick with the piece of shit that is Matt Cassel?

Pants
11-14-2011, 03:01 PM
Kidding...

I just hope all this celebration doesnt by Cassel another year under center.

We have a shitty string of Karma happening on this message board..

If Cassel is going to start next year, it's not because he got hurt, it's because he was going to start next year anyway. It's not like the jury is still out on him.

the Talking Can
11-14-2011, 03:01 PM
That's certainly a fair argument, don't disagree with that at all. I'm just saying toward the people who think it can't get worse. You could have a guy out there throwing sub 50% completions and 2 INT a game. Crap like that.

Heck, everyone's hanging their hat on Stanzi, and he barely completed 50% of his preseason passes playing against grocery baggers.

i fully expect it to look like the bad news bears

FAX
11-14-2011, 03:02 PM
I stand by what I said. It can get worse. Our pass protection has been horrible. There's no guarantee these backups aren't going to get dinged around and we bring in someone off the street. Things like that. I'm not saying that's what will happen. We could very easily not learn anything about this team in these last few weeks. I just think it can get worse. Hopefully it doesn't.

That's a good point. The "learning" part, I mean.

But, that idea has been shot to hell since last year, though. We have a young team that should be improving week-to-week. How much are we learning now? When you look at the situation objectively, Cassel has been responsible (in part) in holding overall team progress back ... on both sides of the ball, really.

Changes to the quarterback position are difficult to absorb ... especially for the offense and particularly for receivers. Then again, there are other things they can show us besides how to jump 19 feet in the air to catch a pass.

FAX

munkey
11-14-2011, 03:03 PM
this is a gift


the only question is: will Pioli open it?

or is the GM who thought Cassel was a Franchise QB going to stick with the piece of shit that is Matt Cassel?


:thumb:

keg in kc
11-14-2011, 03:03 PM
When you look at the situation objectively, Cassel has been responsible (in part) in holding overall team progress back ... on both sides of the ball, really.I'm not sure anybody is capable of looking at any of this objectively.

HBKChiefs
11-14-2011, 03:04 PM
This season ending injury actually helps Cassel's chances of being the Chiefs starting QB next year. The team will chalk up 2011 to bad injuries and feel with everyone back healthy (including Cassel), 2012 will be a big year. I just hope we make some BIG BIG HUGE moves to improve our O and D lines in the offseason. Otherwise, this team will continue to suck.
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Molitoth
11-14-2011, 03:04 PM
Can we fire Bill Muir while we are at it???

keg in kc
11-14-2011, 03:04 PM
Can we fire Bill Muir while we are at it???Now that's a move that might excite me.

Pants
11-14-2011, 03:05 PM
This season ending injury actually helps Cassel's chances of being the Chiefs starting QB next year. The team will chalk up 2011 to bad injuries and feel with everyone back healthy (including Cassel), 2012 will be a big year. I just hope we make some BIG BIG HUGE moves to improve our O and D lines in the offseason. Otherwise, this team will continue to suck.
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Just to clarify for everyone - this guy is not a troll and is 100% serious.

scho63
11-14-2011, 03:05 PM
It will be interesting to see what all the haters post after Monday night.

"Be careful what you wish for you just may get it."

Mr. Laz
11-14-2011, 03:05 PM
with Cassel hurt the Chiefs can start Stanzi without making it a direct threat to Cassel.


yes, my tinfoil hat still has me believing that the Chiefs are protecting Cassel by not allowing any real competition.

BoneKrusher
11-14-2011, 03:06 PM
It will be interesting to see what all the haters post after Monday night.

"Be careful what you wish for you just may get it."

wont be much difference IMO, i'm sure Palko can pass for over 100 yards.

BoneKrusher
11-14-2011, 03:08 PM
yes, my tinfoil hat still has me believing that the Chiefs are protecting Cassel by not allowing any real competition.

i think so as well.

L.A. Chieffan
11-14-2011, 03:10 PM
This season ending injury actually helps Cassel's chances of being the Chiefs starting QB next year. The team will chalk up 2011 to bad injuries and feel with everyone back healthy (including Cassel), 2012 will be a big year. I just hope we make some BIG BIG HUGE moves to improve our O and D lines in the offseason. Otherwise, this team will continue to suck.
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agreed except for the last sentence, we have a chance to be good NEXT year with cassel, a healthy charles and moeaki, OL help and consistency at OC.

L.A. Chieffan
11-14-2011, 03:11 PM
so...with that logic...what happened last year? OR do you even understand the question?

the year everybody was healthy, the chiefs won the division and cassel was a pro-bowl QB?

what do you mean?

tk13
11-14-2011, 03:11 PM
That's a good point. The "learning" part, I mean.

But, that idea has been shot to hell since last year, though. We have a young team that should be improving week-to-week. How much are we learning now? When you look at the situation objectively, Cassel has been responsible (in part) in holding overall team progress back ... on both sides of the ball, really.

Changes to the quarterback position are difficult to absorb ... especially for the offense and particularly for receivers. Then again, there are other things they can show us besides how to jump 19 feet in the air to catch a pass.

FAX

I think we've learned a lot. We have a very good WR corps. Jackie Battle has shown he's capable of carrying the ball. I think we've learned some things about the O-line good and bad. Now we might totally go into a shell and run it 40 times a game with Battle and McCluster and really learn nothing. Or at least continue to develop the young talent we do have.

Same thing happened last year... everybody got excited Croyle was starting. He played one game, we got DESTROYED, and that was it. Croyle was 7-17, took 4 sacks, we had 67 total yards of offense and 5 first downs. It was way worse. It only took one game, everyone had given up on Croyle.

And Croyle is better than Palko or Stanzi... and we have to face the Pats and Steelers the next two weeks.

Tribal Warfare
11-14-2011, 03:13 PM
Though does this beg the question that Cassel is injury prone? Just sayin 3 years here, and never completed all 16 games as the starter each year.

Epic Fail 007
11-14-2011, 03:14 PM
OH PLEASE PLEASE BE TRUE

HBKChiefs
11-14-2011, 03:14 PM
agreed except for the last sentence, we have a chance to be good NEXT year with cassel, a healthy charles and moeaki, OL help and consistency at OC.
No that's what I'm saying. Without some changes this team will continue to suck. I think this team can be great with Cassel, Charles, Moeaki and Berry healthy as long as we add to our lines bigtime and get a better OC.
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Quesadilla Joe
11-14-2011, 03:14 PM
What do y'all think of Von Miller now bitches!

kcxiv
11-14-2011, 03:14 PM
These guys know Cassel is not the future. If pioli doesnt Haley sure in the hell does. There is no way Matt is the starter here next year. I dont, i refuse to believe our FO is going to keep making the mistake. i have to believe that. lol

Molitoth
11-14-2011, 03:14 PM
the year everybody was healthy, the chiefs won the division and cassel was a pro-bowl QB?

what do you mean?

The year that Cassel backed into a ProBowl spot due to a camouflaged statistic in TD/Int ratio? Granted he had a few good games in the middle of the season, the eye test during the beginning and end was Typical Cassel failure.

But it was great for the Hunt's, to collect all of that home playoff game sales to get their ass whipped by Joe f*cking Flacco.

petegz28
11-14-2011, 03:14 PM
i agree with hamas in the other thread i think, this might actually be a good thing because with the injury we should get cassel some more OL help in the draft and give him another shot next year

I am done with the Cassel. He isn't the answer. We've seen enough. He isn't as bad as some make him out to be but he isn't very good either.

Molitoth
11-14-2011, 03:14 PM
What do y'all think of Von Miller now bitches!

He's my f*cking hero!

Frosty
11-14-2011, 03:15 PM
Heck, everyone's hanging their hat on Stanzi, and he barely completed 50% of his preseason passes playing against grocery baggers.

Of course, he was playing with grocery baggers, especially on the O line.

As for Palko, he doesn't have much of an arm but, in the preseason, he at least looked downfield instead of only at the rush, unlike certain other QB's for this team.

BourbonMan
11-14-2011, 03:15 PM
For the last 3 years, people defending cassel have been saying...we need to get him a better O line, then he will be great. So we got him a better O line, that didnt help. Then they said we need to get him some great wide reciever..so we got him great wide recievers..That didn;t help either.

The point is...Cassel will always been a mediocer QB...He doesn't have an arm and he can't see the field..no depth perception...he telegraphs every throw.

I'm not saying Palko or Stanzi is the answer...but I do think we should draft a QB.......RGIII......and then have Stanzi as our Back-up.