God Bless Tim Tebow

[BIG_DADDY]

Chiefs fan to the core but I have been hating the haters. This guy was born with more balls tahn most men will ever have. Pick on his footwork or his windup but this guy has the "IT" factor. If it can't be the Chiefs I would much rather have it be the Donx that the Faders. Hate his christianity, hate his lilly white family as somebody on this BB put it but I wish this kid the very best unless he is playing our team or we are making our run.

[Dartgod]

He's a Donk.

Fuck him.

[Buck]

Can he really bless himself?

[Iconic]

Stop it.

[Bane]

He can die on an aids cross.

[pr_capone]

Fuck Timmy Christ with a rusty red hot fire poker.

I hope he contracts syphilis.

[Shogun]

Can he really bless himself?

MAGNETS, HOW DO THEY WORK

[Bugeater]

Well head on over to the orangemane, I'm sure they'd love you to join their circlejerk.

[Dr. Johnny Fever]

Hate his christianity

ROFL

wow... yet your thread title starts with God bless.......

[BIG_DADDY]

LOL, you guys crack me up.

[Amnorix]

PBJ

[BIG_DADDY]

Well head on over to the orangemane, I'm sure they'd love you to join their circlejerk.

There is a Sandusky thread waiting for you somewhere.

[Buck]

Tebow should change the back of his jersey to "He Hate Heathans".

[Sure-Oz]

He's a fucking donkey, screw him

[BIG_DADDY]

Tebow should change the back of his jersey to "He Hate Heathans".

ROFL

[lcarus]

I don't know what this "IT" factor is....they've lucked into a few wins against bad teams, mostly because their defense has been better than the shitty offenses they've faced. He has to be the most overhyped player the NFL has ever seen, and I don't even dislike the guy as a person. Their offense hasn't done a god damn thing for the most part. Hilarious. They'll run into their brick wall. Probably sooner rather than later.

[pr_capone]

There is a Sandusky thread waiting for you somewhere.

Killer come back.

Did you have to get some help coming up with that zinger?

[Hammock Parties]

He has the "win regular season games but lose in the playoffs because your style of football doesn't win when it counts" factor.

[Caseyguyrr]

hey now theyre really fucking themselves out of a draft pick to get a real qb, im alright with the win

[Jim Jones]

I don't know what this "IT" factor is....they've lucked into a few wins against bad teams, mostly because their defense has been better than the shitty offenses they've faced. He has to be the most overhyped player the NFL has ever seen, and I don't even dislike the guy as a person. Their offense hasn't done a god damn thing for the most part. Hilarious. They'll run into their brick wall. Probably sooner rather than later.

The "it factor" is having a defense good enough to keep you in the game while you suck it up for three and a half quarters.

[KcMizzou]

He has the "win regular season games but lose in the playoffs because your style of football doesn't win when it counts" factor.True.

[Psyko Tek]

all I know , or really think is after beating an east coast team half the league will get an option qb for next year
ala wildcat


agree or not?

[kc rush]

fuck him and any fucking donk.

[RJ]

I kinda like Tebow. It's his fans who annoy the hell out of me.

[BIG_DADDY]

I don't know what this "IT" factor is....they've lucked into a few wins against bad teams, mostly because their defense has been better than the shitty offenses they've faced. He has to be the most overhyped player the NFL has ever seen, and I don't even dislike the guy as a person. Their offense hasn't done a god damn thing for the most part. Hilarious. They'll run into their brick wall. Probably sooner rather than later.

He's got a really shitty team but he drops his shoulder instead sliding and mans up, you gotta respect that. Do I think the Donx are going somewhere, not a chance. Will Tebow stink it up sometimes, absolutely. Do I respect the man as a competitor and has he made a huge difference for his team. absolutely.

[Hammock Parties]

Fucker just thanked his lord and savior jesus christ in an interview.

Fucking maggot.

[BIG_DADDY]

I kinda like Tebow. It's his fans who annoy the hell out of me.

Amen

[KcMizzou]

I kinda like Tebow. It's his fans who annoy the hell out of me.It's hard not to like the guy. But yeah... the fans.

Teeeeeeeeeeeebow....wow...I like him...might not be the best thrower but wow! (female FB post)

[CHENZ A!]

I will NEVER root for a Bronco.. FUCK TEBOW IN HIS STUPID ASS

[bricks]

This guy is a player. I'm not one who's biased to say he's a Donk so screw him. Not at all. I respect this guy because he is a winner. All he does is find ways to win. Whether he makes a clutch throw in clutch situations or simply beating you with his legs? He finds a way to get it done. gotta love that!

[Dr. Johnny Fever]

Amen

I hate your christianity

[KcMizzou]

This guy is a player. I'm not one who's biased to say he's a Donk so screw him. Not at all. I respect this guy because he is a winner. All he does is find ways to win. Whether he makes a clutch throw in clutch situations or simply beating you with his legs? He finds a way to get it done. gotta love that! Gruden?

[BIG_DADDY]

I hate your christianity

I T bowed it up for you baby seal, naturally I expect an epic failure.

[pr_capone]

I will NEVER root for a Bronco.. **** TEBOW IN HIS STUPID ASS

No shit. I mean seriously... I have a hard time liking Casey W. just because of the time he spent in Denver. Niel Smith? **** THAT GUY.

Tebow? I hope he finds out he is the product of rape.

[Dr. Johnny Fever]

I T bowed it up for you baby seal, naturally I expect an epic failure.

Uh huh. I completely forgot how entertaining you are.

[CHENZ A!]

I'm sorry, but any Chiefs fan who roots for the QB of Den or Oak can take a fucking hike.

This reminds me a little of the morons that wanted Oak to win the superbowl because "Rich Gannon deserves it, he was a great Chief"

STFU, get the fuck outta here

[Caseyguyrr]

fuck tebow, him always giving props to the lord, thats fine and all, but the act is getting a little old

[Buck]

Tebow fucking sucks, how the fuck are they winning?

I don't get it.

[Goldmember]

This thread is the best laugh I've had all day....LMAO

[BIG_DADDY]

I'm sorry, but any Chiefs fan who roots for the QB of Den or Oak can take a ****ing hike.

This reminds me a little of the morons that wanted Oak to win the superbowl because "Rich Gannon deserves it, he was a great Chief"

STFU, get the **** outta here

He is hated more than anyone I have ever seen for no reason. I can't help but wish the best for the man unless the Chiefs are making a run. I would certainly take the Donx with Tebow over the Raiders. Call it a personal flaw

[BIG_DADDY]

Tebow ****ing sucks, how the **** are they winning?

I don't get it.

Well the only difference has been..................

[Caseyguyrr]

Tebow ****ing sucks, how the **** are they winning?

I don't get it.

your guess is as good as mine

[Hammock Parties]

This guy is a player. I'm not one who's biased to say he's a Donk so screw him. Not at all. I respect this guy because he is a winner. All he does is find ways to win. Whether he makes a clutch throw in clutch situations or simply beating you with his legs? He finds a way to get it done. gotta love that!

He's the luckiest motherfucker in the world right now. Two of his wins are due to his defense running back a pick six and his special teams recovering an onside kick.

He's going to get crushed against good teams. The Broncos won't EVER win a playoff game as long as he's playing at this level.

[Buck]

Well the only difference has been..................

I'm just thinking if Rivers was on the Broncos, they'd probably have a worse record this year. I don't get it.

You're right, it must be divine intervention.

[kcpasco]

The whole religion thing in sports is kinda annoying.

[CHENZ A!]

He is hated more than anyone I have ever seen for no reason. I can't help but wish the best for the man unless the Chiefs are making a run. I would certainly take the Donx with Tebow over the Raiders. Call it a personal flaw

vomit.

[KC_Connection]

Tebow ****ing sucks, how the **** are they winning?

I don't get it.
Because the Raiders suck, the Chargers are the biggest chokers in the sport's history, and the Chiefs have lost nearly every elite player they have. Also the Jets have no offense.

[KcMizzou]

The guy's a victim of hype. I don't think anything he has done has anything to do with it. People are just sick of TEBOWTEBOWTEBOW 24/7.... but really, that's not his fault.

[Straight, No Chaser]

****er just thanked his lord and savior jesus christ in an interview.

****ing maggot.

Maybe Jesus took Broncos and the points

[Hammock Parties]

I'd root for an injury against Tebow, but the longer he's Denver's starter, the longer they go nowhere.

[Buck]

Because the Raiders suck, the Chargers are the biggest chokers in the sport's history, and the Chiefs have lost nearly every elite player they have. Also the Jets have no offense.

Tebow is 4-1 as a starter. The 2012 apocalypse is coming early.

[kcpasco]

****er just thanked his lord and savior jesus christ in an interview.

****ing maggot.

I wish the Chiefs would pray to Ares.
They could really use the God of war on their side.

[KC_Connection]

Haters gonna hate. And Tebow keeps winning.

[Buck]

This is like when Cassel had a stretch where he was 5-2 to start the season last year and 5-0 before the final game of last season.

Shit doesn't make any sense at all.

[Dr. Johnny Fever]

Even though I was giving Big Daddy shit... he really is right. We did nothing but make fun of him and the Broncos the last year and a half and he's done nothing but make us look like fools. He beat us... while completing 2 fucking passes. He wins... so far. We're the ones with egg on our face. Tebow can laugh at us.

[BIG_DADDY]

He's the luckiest mother****er in the world right now. Two of his wins are due to his defense running back a pick six and his special teams recovering an onside kick.

He's going to get crushed against good teams. The Broncos won't EVER win a playoff game as long as he's playing at this level.

They wouldn't win a playoff game unless they had one of the truly great QB's and even then it's iffy so that isn't saying much. I am only giving him the credit he desrerves, he turned the team with huge balls and willpower. I would take him over Cassel.

[Dr. Johnny Fever]

I'd root for an injury against Tebow, but the longer he's Denver's starter, the longer they go nowhere.

Except 4-1 thus far

[BIG_DADDY]

I'd root for an injury against Tebow, but the longer he's Denver's starter, the longer they go nowhere.

In his present state I agree, of course you are assuming he won't get better. I am not going to make that assumption. Of course I hope you are right.

[Bewbies]

Honestly his success is funny to me. You watch the game and he just sucks. He's horrible and you point and laugh the whole game.

Then the game ends and he's the winner. It's hilarious.

[Hammock Parties]

Except 4-1 thus far

Regular season wins mean shit.

You cannot consistently win in the NFL with a running QB who has terrible passing skills. It has been proven over and over and over again.

[Hammock Parties]

Honestly his success is funny to me. You watch the game and he just sucks. He's horrible and you point and laugh the whole game.

Then the game ends and he's the winner. It's hilarious.

He's the luckiest son of a bitch alive.

[Dr. Johnny Fever]

Regular season wins mean shit.

You cannot consistently win in the NFL with a running QB who has terrible passing skills. It has been proven over and over and over again.

I'm just saying what it is so far. I think TT looks like crap too. Except the record. If Denver wins the division and maybe a playoff game... you just never know...

And regular season means more than just shit... it puts you in the playoffs... or not.

[R8RFAN]

He's the luckiest son of a bitch alive.

1 or 2 wins yes... 4 in a row can only be the Chiefs or Divine Intervention

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

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[Hammock Parties]

Denver is not making the playoffs. They're an 8-8 team.

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

Denver is not making the playoffs. They're an 8-8 team.

8-8 wins the west lol

[Dr. Johnny Fever]

Denver is not making the playoffs. They're an 8-8 team.

Like Haley has been fired?

[Buck]

And what makes you think 8-8 won't take it?

[KC_Connection]

Denver is not making the playoffs. They're an 8-8 team.
Do you know what an oxymoron is?

[Hammock Parties]

And what makes you think 8-8 won't take it?

Because this is the NFL. 8-8 almost never takes a division.

[KC_Connection]

Because this is the NFL. 8-8 almost never takes a division.
The NFL hasn't seen the magic of Tim Tebow.

[Dr. Johnny Fever]

Because this is the NFL. 8-8 almost never takes a division.

Almost. Then there was that 7-9 team last year.

[BIG_DADDY]

Because this is the NFL. 8-8 almost never takes a division.

Like the NFC West last year? This division this year isn't any better

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

Like the NFC West last year? This division this year isn't any better

You guys know he doesn't care about facts.

[Valiant]

I said before, 7-9 to 9-7 will win this shit division..

Shocking that Denver is in play.. He looks horrific except for a few plays.. There is almost zero chance of them beating playoff teams, especially if they win the division..

[Buck]

Because this is the NFL. 8-8 almost never takes a division.

This is the AFC West we're talking about.

[Dr. Johnny Fever]

I knew you'd ignore the post where I agreed with you BD.

:)

[BIG_DADDY]

I knew you'd ignore the post where I agreed with you BD.

:)

It's all good bud.

[Hammock Parties]

When was the last time 8-8 took the AFC West.

Never?

[Dr. Johnny Fever]

It's all good bud.

I like you BD.

[BIG_DADDY]

When was the last time 8-8 took the AFC West.

Never?

When is the last time the AFC West looked like this?

[pr_capone]

Like the NFC West last year? This division this year isn't any better

That is why he used the word ALMOST genius.

[Buck]

When was the last time 8-8 took the AFC West.

Never?

2008, n00b.

http://i.imgur.com/l7xQN.png

[Dr. Johnny Fever]

When was the last time 8-8 took the AFC West.

Never?

You still haven't told me if Haley has been fired yet....

[BIG_DADDY]

2008, n00b.

http://i.imgur.com/l7xQN.png

Ouch, that's gonna leave a mark. LMAO

[Dr. Johnny Fever]

2008, n00b.

http://i.imgur.com/l7xQN.png

Buck with the pwnage

[Hammock Parties]

OK, 8-8 might take.

But the Broncos are not beating Chicago, New England, San Diego or Buffalo.

7-9 team at best.

[Dr. Johnny Fever]

OK, 8-8 might take.

But the Broncos are not beating Chicago, New England, San Diego or Buffalo.

7-9 team at best.

I bet they beat Buffalo and I'd give them a shot vs. eggo.

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

OK, 8-8 might take.

But the Broncos are not beating Chicago, New England, San Diego or Buffalo.

7-9 team at best.

Just like there not beating the jets?

[BIG_DADDY]

OK, 8-8 might take.

But the Broncos are not beating Chicago, New England, San Diego or Buffalo.

7-9 team at best.

You sure are fickle

[BIG_DADDY]

I bet they beat Buffalo and I'd give them a shot vs. eggo.

Funny, my thoughts when I first saw it too.

[Hammock Parties]

Denver is not going to the playoffs. That's ludicrous. They can't keep these miracles happening. You can't get a pick six or an onside kick every week.

[Dr. Johnny Fever]

Funny, my thoughts when I first saw it too.

Buffalo has come back down to earth and eggo has shown they can blow it any given week.

[Dr. Johnny Fever]

Denver is not going to the playoffs. That's ludicrous. They can't keep these miracles happening. You can't get a pick six or an onside kick every week.

I'd generally agree but this season makes no sense.

[BIG_DADDY]

Denver is not going to the playoffs. That's ludicrous. They can't keep these miracles happening. You can't get a pick six or an onside kick every week.

I don't think the thread was ever about Denver going anywhere but they certainly have a a chance at the division

[cabletech94]

Denver is not going to the playoffs. That's ludicrous. They can't keep these miracles happening. You can't get a pick six or an onside kick every week.

sounds like someone needs to yell 6 or 7 hail mary's.

non believer.ROFL

[Consistent1]

This is probably all going to turn into a PR nightmare for their team.

[cabletech94]

This is probably all going to turn into a PR nightmare for their team.

so is suck for luck dead for the donkoes?

[BIG_DADDY]

so is suck for luck dead for the donkoes?

That's Tebows blessing for KC

[cabletech94]

That's Tebows blessing for KC

REP.

[lewdog]

When will these college and professional football players get it, God (if he does exist) doesn't give a flying fuck about football. So stop thanking him for "getting" your team a win.

[RodInCanton]

I'd root for an injury against Tebow, but the longer he's Denver's starter, the longer they go nowhere.

I agree with part of this, the Broncos will go nowhere with Tebow as the starter. But seriously, do people not see the team factor this guy brings to the table? He makes people believe (even if only in a football sense) and that is infectious. For all the Schottenheimer haters, he had people believing they would win every game even with shitty QB's and in the game of football that means a lot.

I am a Broncos fan but my sencond favorite team is the Chiefs. I wish they had somebody who could make them believe in themselves also. The division was a lot more fun when it was between the Broncos and the Chiefs (two classy organizations when compared to the chargers and raiders in my opinion) than it has been with the Raiders and Chargers in the drivers seat...

[lewdog]

I am a Broncos fan but my sencond favorite team is the Chiefs. .

This invalidates anything you have to say. Next!!!

[milkman]

I agree with part of this, the Broncos will go nowhere with Tebow as the starter. But seriously, do people not see the team factor this guy brings to the table? He makes people believe (even if only in a football sense) and that is infectious. For all the Schottenheimer haters, he had people believing they would win every game even with shitty QB's and in the game of football that means a lot.

I am a Broncos fan but my sencond favorite team is the Chiefs. I wish they had somebody who could make them believe in themselves also. The division was a lot more fun when it was between the Broncos and the Chiefs (two classy organizations when compared to the chargers and raiders in my opinion) than it has been with the Raiders and Chargers in the drivers seat...

What kind of dumbass roots for two teams in the same division?

[R8RFAN]

What's it like to be in the basement looking up at a college team Chief fans? ROFL:LOL:LMAO

[R8RFAN]

What kind of dumbass roots for two teams in the same division?

:LOL::LOL::LOL: No Shit

[RodInCanton]

This invalidates anything you have to say. Next!!!

Don't you have a dog to get penis cancer from?
http://www.latimes.com/health/boostershots/la-heb-sex-animals-penile-cancer-20111116,0,6239694.story

[BIG_DADDY]

What's it like to be in the basement looking up at a college team Chief fans? ROFL:LOL:LMAO

What's it like to be a highly leveraged team with no draft choices and no chance of doing anything real? I'll take our position over yours anyday.

[KC_Connection]

2008, n00b.

http://i.imgur.com/l7xQN.png
What's amazing to me about this is that the Chargers managed to go lose 8 games with a +92 PT differential.

[KC_Connection]

OK, 8-8 might take.

But the Broncos are not beating Chicago, New England, San Diego or Buffalo.

7-9 team at best.
Have you seen San Diego?

[RodInCanton]

What kind of dumbass roots for two teams in the same division?

What can I say, when I was reaming your mom's mouth she turned me into a Chiefs fan...

[BIG_DADDY]

What's amazing to me about this is that the Chargers managed to go lose 8 games with a +92 PT differential.

Thank god Norv is only a play caller and not a real head coach.

[R8RFAN]

What's it like to be a highly leveraged team with no draft choices and no chance of doing anything real? I'll take our position over yours anyday.

Ok PAL(ko) ROFLROFLROFL

[RodInCanton]

:LOL::LOL::LOL: No Shit

Shit...

What your former dead owner is stewing in as you type...

[milkman]

What can I say, when I was reaming your mom's mouth she turned me into a Chiefs fan...

Hey, I got nothing against guys that have a thing for really old women.

Shooting for the 80 year olds is your thing, more power to ya.

[R8RFAN]

Shit...

What your former dead owner is stewing in as you type...

Canton must be your boyfriends name... Thats sweet

[RodInCanton]

Hey, I got nothing against guys that have a thing for really old women.

Shooting for the 80 year olds is your thing, more power to ya.

She was just on the receiving end of bidness. She just had to see why people called you the milkman. Like i told her, it was because dude's made milk come out of your ass!

[RodInCanton]

Canton must be your boyfriends name... Thats sweet

Good one. Glad to see that GED is coming in handy...

[BIG_DADDY]

Ok PAL(ko) ROFLROFLROFL

So smack isn't your schtick, I get it. On that note I'm out boys and GOD BLESS TEBOW. He kept Luck out of pile high at the very least.

[Lumpy]

:LOL:

This is going to get ugly. :doh!:

[R8RFAN]

:LOL:

This is going to get ugly. :doh!:


Yea, Rod is gonna be in Canton and Milkman is going to be in Rod

[lewdog]

Don't you have a dog to get penis cancer from?
http://www.latimes.com/health/boostershots/la-heb-sex-animals-penile-cancer-20111116,0,6239694.story

Actually I don't have a dog.

If this is your attempt at a comeback it is about as lame as you liking both the Broncos and Chiefs. That isn't even possible unless your IQ is below 70, and even then, most retards know you can't like teams from the same division.

[Raiderhater]

My take - I do not hate the guy for any other reason than he is a donk. He has a shit load of talent. But he is not a pro quarterback. He will provide a spark in the beginning but ultimately will fail in that position at this level. As long as Denver hangs their hat on him as the future the happier I am. I'm just tired of hearing about a guy that I believe is not going to be what some wish him to be.

[Buck]

What's amazing to me about this is that the Chargers managed to go lose 8 games with a +92 PT differential.

Nothing the Chargers do could ever amaze me again, with Norv at the reins, except if they made the Super Bowl.

[milkman]

She was just on the receiving end of bidness. She just had to see why people called you the milkman. Like i told her, it was because dude's made milk come out of your ass!

You don't have to make any excuses for your sexual preferences..

[R8RFAN]

My take - I do not hate the guy for any other reason than he is a donk. He has a shit load of talent. But he is not a pro quarterback. He will provide a spark in the beginning but ultimately will fail in that position at this level. As long as Denver hangs their hat on him as the future the happier I am. I'm just tired of hearing about a guy that I believe is not going to be what some wish him to be.

He has yet to take that one big solid hit that every running qb in the NFL gets... Ask Vick

[Lumpy]

Yea, Rod is gonna be in Canton and Milkman is going to be in Rod

I hate when the Milkman Rods my Canton... I can't walk straight for a week.

But, hey... free dairy! :thumb:

[R8RFAN]

Most dudes named Rod are polesmokers

[RodInCanton]

Actually I don't have a dog.

If this is your attempt at a comeback it is about as lame as you liking both the Broncos and Chiefs. That isn't even possible unless your IQ is below 70, and even then, most retards know you can't like teams from the same division.

You got me. My IQ is really low. I have no comeback and I guess I cannot like two teams from the same division. You are a freaking genius. I am waiting for you to solve our energy crisis, debt problem and unemployment problem since you seem to be really smart.

In the meantime, can you remove your dick from your cat? You might get penis cancer...

[Raiderhater]

He has yet to take that one big solid hit that every running qb in the NFL gets... Ask Vick


And that is not even why I don't think he will succede. But it is a very valid point.

[RodInCanton]

I hate when the Milkman Rods my Canton... I can't walk straight for a week.

But, hey... free dairy! :thumb:

Now this is good shit. First thing that made me laugh tonight after i pulled my dick out of milkman's mom's anus!!!

[Epic Fail 007]

He needs to stop god has nothing to do with him scoring nor dose he care.If he wants to be big boy and run the real nfl offense then like he did something.Stop with the dumbed down bs .He looks like a fool.And he thinks ghost glide him into the inzone to,lol.STOP IT

[lewdog]

In the meantime, can you remove your dick from your cat? You might get penis cancer...

Damn dude, you lose again. I don't have a cat either.

[R8RFAN]

Rod... Have you ever woke up with a condom hanging out of your ass?

[RodInCanton]

Most dudes named Rod are polesmokers

And you would know how?!?

[CHENZ A!]

This is the worst shit talking I have honestly ever seen. These guys(?) are either under the age of 14, or mentally handicapped.

[RodInCanton]

Dammit. You got me! ;-)

You're a gerbil lover!!! Free Lemmiwinks!!!

[RodInCanton]

Rod... Have you ever woke up with a condom hanging out of your ass?

No but I think you need to press charges against Sandusky with where you are going...

[R8RFAN]

Now I think the way to stop or slow down the tebow train is to put a safety on him as a QB spy all night and dare him to run.... Don't blitz him with a safety just wait on him... and then BAM make him look out of his earhole.

What the hell else do you need a safety for with tebow at QB?

[BWillie]

I like Tebow. Too bad he's a Donk. Wouldn't be so bad if he wasn't in our division. Very admirable and firey guy. Don't know how ppl hate him so much.

[R8RFAN]

I like Tebow. Too bad he's a Donk. Wouldn't be so bad if he wasn't in our division. Very admirable and firey guy. Don't know how ppl hate him so much.
Anti-Christian people are the Tebow haters.. Thats easy

[BWillie]

Anti-Christian people are the Tebow haters.. Thats easy

I'm agnostic. I think the Christian faith is beyond silly. Everybody knows that. And I still admire the guy.

[pr_capone]

I like Tebow. Too bad he's a Donk. Wouldn't be so bad if he wasn't in our division. Very admirable and firey guy. Don't know how ppl hate him so much.

For me?

10% - His religious ferver
10% - The hype
10% - His fans
70% - His face.

I hate his ****ing face. Really... just look at it. How can you not ****ing hate it intensely?
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/images/08/14/tim_tebow.jpg

RRRRAAAGGGEEEE!!!!!

[RodInCanton]

This is the worst shit talking I have honestly ever seen. These guys(?) are either under the age of 14, or mentally handicapped.

Lol. Just been drinking A LOT and having fun...

['Hamas' Jenkins]

How can you look at the way that offense moves the ball and think anything other than he's a terrible QB who is getting really lucky with the play of his defense and the fall of the schedule?

[BWillie]

How can you look at the way that offense moves the ball and think anything other than he's a terrible QB who is getting really lucky with the play of his defense and the fall of the schedule?

Definitely could be the case, but it's a ball control defense by offense, if that makes any sense at all. But the Denver defense is playing well right now.

[listopencil]

I just saw this blurb on the ESPN web site:

Tim Tebow (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=13200/tim-tebow) now has 9 rush TD in less than 2 seasons with the Broncos, 2nd-most in team history. The only Broncos QB with more is John Elway (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=6470/john-elway) (33).

[listopencil]

How can you look at the way that offense moves the ball and think anything other than he's a terrible QB who is getting really lucky with the play of his defense and the fall of the schedule?

So what will the Chiefs call their option next year? Broken Arrow?

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Definitely could be the case, but it's a ball control defense by offense, if that makes any sense at all. But the Denver defense is playing well right now.

This is just another version of the Wildcat and Vince Young. A disciplined defensive team that stays in their lanes completely shuts down that offense. He's a sub-package player taking every snap, and it's not long before he gets further exposed.

He's not a bad guy. Definitely annoying, but could be much worse. The problem, like many things, stem from his fans and the hype. Reminds me of guys around here going ape shit in 2006 when Vince Young scrambled the Titans to a mediocre record. You can't succeed as a QB if you can't throw, and Tebow can't throw.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

So what will the Chiefs call their option next year? Broken Arrow?

Hopefully it's called by a new coaching staff with a play sent in to a new QB drafted by a new GM. If they do that, they can call it anything they want.

[chiefs1111]

Hopefully it's called by a new coaching staff with a play sent in to a new QB drafted by a new GM. If they do that, they can call it anything they want.

we can only hope

[philfree]

Since Tebow has taken the field what's the Donks defense stats for those games? I mean if you can put 21 or over on the them that's a win.


Haven't they kicked ass on D latley? Shit! They shut the Cassel and the Chiers down.

[notorious]

Just got back from the game, and the Broncos fans are going to suck Tebow dry.

They cussed him the entire game, but when he put together that last drive that place went full Tebowner.

BTW, Miller is amazing. That guy's first step is FAST. It sucks that he is a donk.

[FAX]

"In a world where h-backs write themselves into the record books, where the look option forces an array of mid-season rule changes, and where silent prayer is cooler than ass-capping among the male demographic ages 18 to 24, there is one man who stands apart ... one man who will fight against all odds for right ... and good ... and jorts. And that man is ... Noah Leroy Steinberg, Tim Tebow's product endorsement manager and agent."

"Armed only with a Bic, a pack of spearmint gum, and the knowledge that evil only triumphs when good men hold containment, Noah Leroy Steinberg enters the arena of contract negotiations with the kind of courage and bravery that can cause a normal man to take a knee. There is a time for peace and a time for war and there is a time for a decent egg over easy. But, for Noah Leroy Steinberg, the time is now ... before his client breaks his neck."

FAX

[Okie_Apparition]

Jon Kitna rubs me the wrong way more than Tebow. When it comes to their faith
They'll start forcing Tebow to move to his right. He'll have to adapt

[MahiMike]

How can you not love this kid? He triumphs over all the naysayers and distractions.

My only bone with him is why does he always wait till the last drive of the game? Is he doing it on purpose?

[memyselfI]

For me?

10% - His religious ferver
10% - The hype
10% - His fans
70% - His face.

I hate his ****ing face. Really... just look at it. How can you not ****ing hate it intensely?
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/images/08/14/tim_tebow.jpg

RRRRAAAGGGEEEE!!!!!


I agree with 100% of that. But would you look at those arms/torso. Wow, yummy enough to give him a pass in one of those 10% categories.

Just one though.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

He should thank Sanchez for throwing that gift pick 6 for this national blowjob he is recieving. 10 points when given multiple drives starting in Jet territory is still pretty pathetic. It was a nice drive at the end, I'll concede that.

[NewChief]

I like Tebow. Too bad he's a Donk. Wouldn't be so bad if he wasn't in our division. Very admirable and firey guy. Don't know how ppl hate him so much.

Sports Radio here was talking about this the other day. The best take I heard on it was that with most sports stars, they earn their fame/fortune first through their exploits on the field. If they get big enough and are amazing enough, then people become curious about the personality/life of the athlete. With Tebow, it happened in reverse. His "brand" was shoved down our collective throats before he'd really done much of note.

[bevischief]

I am glad I didn't watch the passion of Christ last night...

[suds79]

With Tebow, it happened in reverse. His "brand" was shoved down our collective throats before he'd really done much of note.

I completely understand this is a huge part of the hate but I don't get it. First off, he was the QB on the best college football program that won multiple championships. Of course they're going to get a lot of coverage. Even still, that's not Tim's fault the media covers him so much.

The only think I don't like about him is that he's a donk. Once they ship him out of Den (I think that's why they're running this option attack. They don't care if he gets hurt), I'll be a full on board as a fan.

The fact that he gives praise to Jesus scores big points for me.

[KCUnited]

It's the way he's portrayed in the media. Both images of him on Yahoo Sports are of him in a prayer position. Your typical beer guzzling, wing eating, f-bomb dropping football fan is going to hate on that.

[memyselfI]

I completely understand this is a huge part of the hate but I don't get it. First off, he was the QB on the best college football program that won multiple championships. Of course they're going to get a lot of coverage. Even still, that's not Tim's fault the media covers him so much.

The only think I don't like about him is that he's a donk. Once they ship him out of Den (I think that's why they're running this option attack. They don't care if he gets hurt), I'll be a full on board as a fan.

The fact that he gives praise to Jesus scores big points for me.

I disagree. He's done things to attract attention and build his 'brand' like the Bible scripture on his face. I'm sure many players get as much attention without having their personna be a bigger issue than his playing ability.

[suds79]

I disagree. He's done things to attract attention and build his 'brand' like the Bible scripture on his face. I'm sure many players get as much attention without having their personna be a bigger issue than his playing ability.

Fair enough.

Although I'd argue that the bible scripture eyeblack on his face is to promote and spread the word of the gospel as we're told to do from readings vs him promoting his brand. But that's a matter of opinion which it really is.

[Dartgod]

The guy's a victim of hype. I don't think anything he has done has anything to do with it. People are just sick of TEBOWTEBOWTEBOW 24/7.... but really, that's not his fault.

This + he's a fucking Donkey.

[mlyonsd]

For me it's simple, if Tebow played in any other division I'd be rooting for him.

[Dave Lane]

hey now theyre really ****ing themselves out of a draft pick to get a real qb, im alright with the win

Me too go Tebow as long as the only win 3 more games

[Mile High Mania]

How can you not love this kid? He triumphs over all the naysayers and distractions.

My only bone with him is why does he always wait till the last drive of the game? Is he doing it on purpose?

That's about the only comparison to Elway that he has... the never say die attitude and he doesn't know the meaning of quit. If he thinks he needs to take the biggest defender on to keep the drive alive, he takes that guy on.

There's a lot to like about the guy, but not this offense... Denver really needs for someone like Julius Thomas to be playing. Big, athletic TE. If Tebow is going to improve as a passing QB, he needs those security blanket options 10-15 yards out...

And, let's not act like Denver has a ton of proven consistency at WR... Decker is pretty much the default #1 and Royal #2 - these guys should be your #2-3 options in most offenses. So, without Lloyd or Thomas becoming that #1 threat at this point, dink and dunk is the future.

We'll see how it goes... I'm excited at 5-5, beats the losing. The games are frustrating, but it is somewhat fun to see them win and realize how much it angers some fans and media.

The big story is how much better the defense and special teams are playing, especially the defense. Did it take them half a season to gel with the rookie(s) and return of Elvis? Are they inspired by the roll with Tebow? I dunno, but the defense is really key here... if it were performing like it had with Orton during the 1-4 start, Denver would be 1-9 or 2-8 right now. Denver's defense is the key here and Tebow is managing the game just enough to not lose it and win it in the end.

I'm not blinded by anything that makes me think he's the guy for this team long-term... but, maybe they can make something work. Who knows.

I'll enjoy this for now and take it for what it is... better than losing.

[Lono]

The whole religion thing in sports is kinda annoying.

Why? Christians believe they should thank God for the talents he has given them. As a Christian myself, I think he has stood his ground about his beliefs and has been a good role model to young Christians. He sticks to his beliefs, I think he sucks as a qb but I wouldn't mind to have a son grow up like him.

[Garcia Bronco]

GB2

And Go Hokies!!!

[memyselfI]

Fair enough.

Although I'd argue that the bible scripture eyeblack on his face is to promote and spread the word of the gospel as we're told to do from readings vs him promoting his brand. But that's a matter of opinion which it really is.

Whatever it is, there is a time and a place and people like him (or Kurt Warner) who use their platform to impose their beliefs on others is just wrong. If you want to be religious, great, but where does it end.

What if he, or someone else, has written passages from the Koran? You still cool with that? If not, then don't support or sanction any religion being used in this fashion. Otherwise you are opening up a can of worms where you really do not want to go.

It just reeks of showmanship. I'm quite certain there are literally hundreds of equally devout Christians in the NFL. But you'd never know that...they have not used it as a means to build their brand or spread their religion. They have respected barriers of the two on the field and within the game.

[suds79]

Whatever it is, there is a time and a place and people like him (or Kurt Warner) who use their platform to impose their beliefs on others is just wrong. If you want to be religious, great, but where does it end.

What if he, or someone else, has written passages from the Koran? You still cool with that? If not, then don't support or sanction any religion being used in this fashion. Otherwise you are opening up a can of worms where you really do not want to go.

Really, really not trying to get this moved to the DC forum so I'll just answer this and move on.

It's not about imposing their beliefs or time & place. That's not what it's about. It's about doing what the gospel says to do (Mark 16:15). It doesn't say "Spread the word to only those will like it." Naturally some will be open to the word and some will not.

If someone wants to do the same for the Koran with the eyeblack, while I do not follow it, they can do whatever they want. Free country.

[notorious]

I'm not blinded by anything that makes me think he's the guy for this team long-term... but, maybe they can make something work. Who knows.

I'll enjoy this for now and take it for what it is... better than losing.

If he ever figures out how to throw the ball, he will be scary.

There were receivers that had their receivers beat by 1-2 steps last night all over the place. He just flat out sucks at hitting very easy NFL passes.


The Denver fans around us were cussing him all game until the last drive. I can't believe how much the fanbase loves him. Simply amazing.

[vailpass]

No shit. I mean seriously... I have a hard time liking Casey W. just because of the time he spent in Denver. Niel Smith? **** THAT GUY.

Tebow? I hope he finds out he is the product of rape.

LMAO

[Mile High Mania]

So, do you get upset when someone thanks God for an award?

Many players in sports are strong in their faith. Some, like Tebow, are not shy about it and while it can be annoying at times to some or seem fake or contrived when someone like a Deion or similar may do it (considering their past)... it's genuine with this guy.

Doesn't make it right or wrong. But, if he wants to celebrate a huge play by kneeling and saying a quick prayer, so be it.

It's not quite reaching for a cell phone or some self serving "me me me" dance, but it's what he chooses to do and by doing so he's not trying to convert you or tell you that you're doomed to the fires of hell for not sharing in his faith.

The guy is a good role model... he's doing good things off the field, always has and many hate him because he seems like the "goody goody guy that can do no wrong".

Hate him for being a poor passer - that's fine. Hating him and mocking him because he's a strong christian is lame. It's certainly your right, but you're guilty of what you charge him with doing.

If you want him to "hide it and not display his faith"... why should your way prevail? Just curious.

I guess the guy could be fathering 10 kids with 8 women, making it rain at strip clubs and getting DWIs... while doing backflips and endzone dances on Sundays. Is that more acceptable? It certainly feels that way with many.

[Mile High Mania]

If he ever figures out how to throw the ball, he will be scary.

There were receivers that had their receivers beat by 1-2 steps last night all over the place. He just flat out sucks at hitting very easy NFL passes.


The Denver fans around us were cussing him all game until the last drive. I can't believe how much the fanbase loves him. Simply amazing.

There were a number of misses, but also a couple of drops. Decker and Royal are #2-3 options at this point, and their being asked to be the top threats... that's also part of the problem. Thomas isn't ready to be the #1 guy yet.

Tebow had better passing success last year in 3 games with Lloyd. Build up the talent at TE and let's see what happens.

[LOCOChief]

I'm happy for Tebow and rooting for him. Good guy, good role model, bad passer.

[BoneKrusher]

I'm happy for Tebow and rooting for him. Good guy, good role model, bad passer.

ya me too. its gonna be scary as hell for the rest of the AFC West if he learns how to throw, he's a Baller.

[Mile High Mania]

I'm happy for Tebow and rooting for him. Good guy, good role model, bad passer.

I personally don't think much can change... other than who they surround him with at TE and WR.

Honestly, they'll need to beef up at RB, FB and TE. You don't have a QB that is a stretch the field with amazing plays type of guy. Decker, Thomas and Royal are fine ... IF and only IF ... they beef up at TE and RB.

I still don't know what I want to happen... after the Miami win, I said the Broncos needed to go 5-5 or better in the final 10 games. If they couldn't - which was and is a tall order, then go find a new QB. If they could somehow go 5-5, then maybe they have something to build around.

Right now, he's 3-1 with 6 remaining in that 10 game period... it's really weird.

[milkman]

ya me too. its gonna be scary as hell for the rest of the AFC West if he learns how to throw, he's a Baller.

It will be scary for his opponents where ever he is when he learns to be a passer, in about 7 or 8 years.

[Mile High Mania]

Denver has a nice rest at this point... and then, it's 2 road games vs Chargers and the Vikings.

Then, in 3 weeks... Cutler and the Bears @ Denver.

Followed by, Brady and the Patriots @ Denver.

Closing out on the road vs the Bills and then the Chiefs @ Denver.

It's going to be interesting in the next 2 road games - neither is stellar in what they provide, so it's anyone's game in my opinion - especially if Denver's defense continues to ride this momentum.

I can't wait for Cutler vs Tebow in Denver.

[notorious]

There were a number of misses, but also a couple of drops. Decker and Royal are #2-3 options at this point, and their being asked to be the top threats... that's also part of the problem. Thomas isn't ready to be the #1 guy yet.

Tebow had better passing success last year in 3 games with Lloyd. Build up the talent at TE and let's see what happens.

He has a lot of work to do, but I can't help but not like the kid. He is the very definition of resiliant.


Sanchez looked like a pile of shit, and he hangs his head every time something doesn't go right. He is a complete failure. QB's have to be resiliant, and he is a pussy when it comes to mental toughness.

Once again, seeing Vaughn Miller play made me really jealous. That kid is a star, and has an extremely quick first step off the snap.

[BigCatDaddy]

It will be scary for his opponents where ever he is when he learns to be a passer, in about 7 or 8 years.

Just like Rich Gannon?

[notorious]

If he learns to throw, they will be contenders.


That's a long shot, though.

[milkman]

I personally don't think much can change... other than who they surround him with at TE and WR.

Honestly, they'll need to beef up at RB, FB and TE. You don't have a QB that is a stretch the field with amazing plays type of guy. Decker, Thomas and Royal are fine ... IF and only IF ... they beef up at TE and RB.

I still don't know what I want to happen... after the Miami win, I said the Broncos needed to go 5-5 or better in the final 10 games. If they couldn't - which was and is a tall order, then go find a new QB. If they could somehow go 5-5, then maybe they have something to build around.

Right now, he's 3-1 with 6 remaining in that 10 game period... it's really weird.

He's 3-1 in games with teams whose QBs are damn near as limited as he is, and the Donkey defense has really stepped up.

Sadly, their remaining schedule isn't all that daunting, and there aren't many real tests.

New England and Chicago, though, should expose the Donkeys limitations with TeBow at QB.

[milkman]

Just like Rich Gannon?

In terms of time, yeah, like that.

[vailpass]

All you Tebow doubters will pay.
You should have aborted him when you could!

[notorious]

He's 3-1 in games with teams whose QBs are damn near as limited as he is, and the Donkey defense has really stepped up.

Sadly, their remaining schedule isn't all that daunting, and there aren't many real tests.

New England and Chicago, though, should expose the Donkeys limitations with TeBow at QB.

New England?

If New England gets a big lead Denver is screwed, but their defense is shit.

[Mile High Mania]

He's 3-1 in games with teams whose QBs are damn near as limited as he is, and the Donkey defense has really stepped up.

Sadly, their remaining schedule isn't all that daunting, and there aren't many real tests.

New England and Chicago, though, should expose the Donkeys limitations with TeBow at QB.

True - they lost soundly in Tebow's second start (before they went option focused) against the Lions. They have won @ Miami, @ Oakland, @ KC and home against the Jets. No stellar QBs on that list and a lot of average to good defenses, nothing stellar - aside from the Jets, they were the best of the bunch.

The key for Denver in this stretch has been the play of their defense - they've also done a good job of protecting Tebow in the last couple of games and they've had what ... 1 turnover in the last 2-3 games. It's been uber-conservative, but it has worked.

Road games vs the Chargers, Vikings and Bills
Home games vs the Bears, Patriots and Chiefs

Who knows what to expect on the road... those 3 teams are up and down recently. The Bears and Patriots are the true tests and they're in Denver, so that's a plus.

Denver should defeat the Chiefs in the final week, but you never know.

This week, Oakland is @ MINN and Chargers are @ the Bears. Anything can happen, but both Oak and SD could lose... and wouldn't that just make things incredibly interesting with 6 games to go.

[notorious]

Denver's defense dominated two horrifically bad offensive teams.


Let's not get too far ahead of ourselves. They have some very nice pieces, but they are far from the defense we saw against KC and NY.

[lewdog]

Whatever it is, there is a time and a place and people like him (or Kurt Warner) who use their platform to impose their beliefs on others is just wrong. If you want to be religious, great, but where does it end.

What if he, or someone else, has written passages from the Koran? You still cool with that? If not, then don't support or sanction any religion being used in this fashion. Otherwise you are opening up a can of worms where you really do not want to go.

It just reeks of showmanship. I'm quite certain there are literally hundreds of equally devout Christians in the NFL. But you'd never know that...they have not used it as a means to build their brand or spread their religion. They have respected barriers of the two on the field and within the game.

Couldn't have said it better myself. There is a time and a place and for me I am there to watch football. So when you get asked a question about how the team played, your response shouldn't be something about God. Shoving it down our throats at every opportunity is enough to hate a guy, what don't people understand about that?

[vailpass]

Couldn't have said it better myself. There is a time and a place and for me I am there to watch football. So when you get asked a question about how the team played, your response shouldn't be something about God. Shoving it down our throats at every opportunity is enough to hate a guy, what don't people understand about that?

Some guy on TV says a couple words and you feel that is shoving something down your throat? Kind of a sad pathetic ****er aren't you?

[milkman]

New England?

If New England gets a big lead Denver is screwed, but their defense is shit.

Their defense doesn't have to be all world.

If they can force the Donkeys into a few third and long situations, even if they have the crappiest secondary in football, if the QB can't hit wide open receivers, it won't matter.

[lewdog]

Some guy on TV says a couple words and you feel that is shoving something down your throat? Kind of a sad pathetic ****er aren't you?

Wow, you are so missing the point. He uses his platform to always talk about God or appear in controversy commercials to spread some message. I totally understand people who love him and root for him because he does have heart and many agree with his religious agenda and views. However, how do many people in this thread not understand the flipside of the coin about why people don't like him when he is continually spreading "his God" to everyone and many don't agree with his views?

Anyway...he may be winning games but these games are being won by that defense.

[vailpass]

Wow, you are so missing the point. He uses his platform to always talk about God or appear in controversy commercials to spread some message. I totally understand people who love him and root for him because he does have heart and many agree with his religious agenda and views. However, how do many people in this thread not understand the flipside of the coin about why people don't like him when he is continually spreading "his God" to everyone and many don't agree with his views?

Anyway...he may be winning games but these games are being won by that defense.

People who get butthurt over someone mentioning god for 5 seconds is funny. They make such a big deal out of protesting over it that they end up spending more time talking about than the person about whom they are bitching and moaning.

[Mile High Mania]

Wow, you are so missing the point. He uses his platform to always talk about God or appear in controversy commercials to spread some message. I totally understand people who love him and root for him because he does have heart and many agree with his religious agenda and views. However, how do many people in this thread not understand the flipside of the coin about why people don't like him when he is continually spreading "his God" to everyone and many don't agree with his views?

Anyway...he may be winning games but these games are being won by that defense.

I think you make too much of it... he was in 1 commercial that mostly aired during the SB a year ago. Again, if you watch an awards show or something and you hear "I thank God for ..." comment, do you get equally as insane?

He's not asking the camera's to zoom in on him when he takes a knee after a play... so, maybe your anger is misplaced. And, regarding his comments in front of the camera... he says a quick comment or two, he's hardly giving a sermon.

[milkman]

Wow, you are so missing the point. He uses his platform to always talk about God or appear in controversy commercials to spread some message. I totally understand people who love him and root for him because he does have heart and many agree with his religious agenda and views. However, how do many people in this thread not understand the flipside of the coin about why people don't like him when he is continually spreading "his God" to everyone and many don't agree with his views?

Anyway...he may be winning games but these games are being won by that defense.

I don't believe in God, but if I did, and followed the bible's teachings, I would be using any platform I had to spread the word, as the bible says one should do.

Don't like it, too bad.

[Mile High Mania]

Their defense doesn't have to be all world.

If they can force the Donkeys into a few third and long situations, even if they have the crappiest secondary in football, if the QB can't hit wide open receivers, it won't matter.

The Jets are now the 7th overall rated Defense in the league (#16 vs the run).

Bears are #25 overall (#13 vs run)and Patriots are #32 overall (#9 vs the run).

Denver's defense is now sitting at #17 overall (#15 vs run / #19 vs pass).

We'll see how things go, but the Bears and Patriots should be as tough if not tougher vs Denver with the rush defense they have. Question is, can Denver's defense continue to play well and improve on the #19 passing defense issues vs Cutler and Brady?

Both present incredibly tough challenges...

[BigCatDaddy]

Wow, you are so missing the point. He uses his platform to always talk about God or appear in controversy commercials to spread some message. I totally understand people who love him and root for him because he does have heart and many agree with his religious agenda and views. However, how do many people in this thread not understand the flipside of the coin about why people don't like him when he is continually spreading "his God" to everyone and many don't agree with his views?

Anyway...he may be winning games but these games are being won by that defense.

For some reason I think he gets more criticism because he's white. I see as many if not more religious comments from black athletes then Tebow.


I don't care for the guy, but it has nothing to do with his faith.

[lewdog]

For some reason I think he gets more criticism because he's white. I see as many if not more religious comments from black athletes then Tebow.


I don't care for the guy, but it has nothing to do with his faith.

Do you not care for the guy because of his noodle left arm?

[BigCatDaddy]

Do you not care for the guy because of his noodle left arm?

I wouldn't want him as a QB of the Chiefs because he can't throw, but I was sick of his hype before he even put on the jersey of a hated rival.

[lewdog]

I wouldn't want him as a QB of the Chiefs because he can't throw, but I was sick of his hype before he even put on the jersey of a hated rival.

Amen.

[Mile High Mania]

Amen.

What? How dare you say that... pushing your views on us like that... I know what you're doing with your li'l agenda, dude. Keep religion out of sports replies.

[Mile High Mania]

He's the luckiest mother****er in the world right now. Two of his wins are due to his defense running back a pick six and his special teams recovering an onside kick.

He's going to get crushed against good teams. The Broncos won't EVER win a playoff game as long as he's playing at this level.

If only they could find a way to win the AFCW and win a wildcard round game... would you leave the Internet forever?

[lewdog]

What? How dare you say that... pushing your views on us like that... I know what you're doing with your li'l agenda, dude. Keep religion out of sports replies.

Oh GOD, here we go again!

[FAX]

Personally, I despise the goat people from the mountains.

Tebow is an interesting situation, though. I tend to root for the underdog in life (see Chiefs: pages 1 - last) so it's relatively easy for me to like the guy because Horseface was a neigh-sayer (get it? neigh-sayer?) and told the media he was their 4th string guy.

He sucks as a passer, though. Pure and simple. If they can teach him to throw a football, his career could get interesting.

The thing the goat people have to be aware of, though, is that there is an enormous Christian population out there and, as sure as God made little green dingleberries, they will pack that stadium if they can string together some victories and Tebow is quarterback.

As for people dissing Tebow on account of his religious beliefs. That kind of thing displays nothing more than ignorance and intolerance on the part of the disser. It's irrelevant.

The good news in all of this is that the goat people are winning during a season when we have been decimated by injury and Cassel. I'm cool with them picking after us in the draft.

McDaniels has to be laughing his ass off over all this, though. And, it's interesting to me that, although McDaniels drafted the guy, it took John Fox to figure out what to do with him. There is karma at work here, people.

FAX

[Mile High Mania]

Oh GOD, here we go again!

:p

[Okie_Apparition]

In one of these press confrences someone is going to ask how he celebrates the sabbath.

[listopencil]

And, let's not act like Denver has a ton of proven consistency at WR... Decker is pretty much the default #1 and Royal #2 - these guys should be your #2-3 options in most offenses. So, without Lloyd or Thomas becoming that #1 threat at this point, dink and dunk is the future.


That's the thing. Look at how much of our Offense was Lloyd before we traded him away. Pretty amazing that we are winning games with Tebow and his band of n00bs. Hopefully it's a chance for them to build together over the next few years.

[listopencil]

In one of these press confrences someone is going to ask how he celebrates the sabbath.

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/markdroberts/series/what-is-a-church/

[Pasta Little Brioni]

If he ever figures out how to throw the ball, he will be scary. There were receivers that had their receivers beat by 1-2 steps last night all over the place. He just flat out sucks at hitting very easy NFL passes.


The Denver fans around us were cussing him all game until the last drive. I can't believe how much the fanbase loves him. Simply amazing.

That, I agree 100 percent with.

[Mile High Mania]

That's the thing. Look at how much of our Offense was Lloyd before we traded him away. Pretty amazing that we are winning games with Tebow and his band of n00bs. Hopefully it's a chance for them to build together over the next few years.

Let's not get too crazy... I think the team has rallied behind him and they're playing better, but they are SOOO conservative.

It's almost like watching the Broncos in the 80s with Reeves regarding the conservatism (much less passing now) and then letting the QB "do his thing" in the final minutes.

The play of the defense in these 4 wins (not to forget the ineptness of the opposing teams) has been every bit as important.

Denver has punted 36 times since Tebow took over (5 games) and in the previous 5, they punted 23 times.

The good thing is that turnovers are way down with 5 in the last 5 (3 vs DET) compared to 12 in the first 5. So, that's the big plus from conservatism.

It's been more than just Tebow... it's been the running game and defense. If a team forces us to win with Tebow the passing QB, then I'm not sure we will like that result at this point. The team is not equipped with what he needs to be a stronger and more effective passing QB.

[Fish]

How long before the Denver WRs get tired of Tebow running the ball 30 times a game and throwing 1 or 2 passes at their feet? Anybody think they'll start missing an actual passing offense?

[listopencil]

Let's not get too crazy... I think the team has rallied behind him and they're playing better, but they are SOOO conservative.

It's almost like watching the Broncos in the 80s with Reeves regarding the conservatism (much less passing now) and then letting the QB "do his thing" in the final minutes.

The play of the defense in these 4 wins (not to forget the ineptness of the opposing teams) has been every bit as important.

Denver has punted 36 times since Tebow took over (5 games) and in the previous 5, they punted 23 times.

The good thing is that turnovers are way down with 5 in the last 5 (3 vs DET) compared to 12 in the first 5. So, that's the big plus from conservatism.

It's been more than just Tebow... it's been the running game and defense. If a team forces us to win with Tebow the passing QB, then I'm not sure we will like that result at this point. The team is not equipped with what he needs to be a stronger and more effective passing QB.

Absolutely. I could not agree more with the bolded part. I'm saying that I hope Tebow progresses as a passer and that our young receivers improve as the Offense gels over time. Out of the entire Offense I''d have to say I am most disappointed with Royal and Moreno. Royal should be running better routes by now, and Moreno finally got the blocking/playcalling to benefit him but is now out for the year after (once again) only showing flashes of ability. Our recent success is all gravy to me though. Once we took Orton out we clearly entered the next step in the rebuilding process and I'm all for it.

[FAX]

How long before the Denver WRs get tired of Tebow running the ball 30 times a game and throwing 1 or 2 passes at their feet? Anybody think they'll start missing an actual passing offense?

Good point.

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[listopencil]

How long before the Denver WRs get tired of Tebow running the ball 30 times a game and throwing 1 or 2 passes at their feet? Anybody think they'll start missing an actual passing offense?

...they need to worry about doing their jobs consistently at a high level. No one gives a shit what they are tired of.

[FAX]

...they need to worry about doing their jobs consistently at a high level. No one gives a shit what they are tired of.

You should, Mr. listopencil.

As your receivers begin to realize that their careers are stalled due to your offensive system, horrific locker room conflicts will emerge that will tear the team apart at the seams.

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[Fish]

...they need to worry about doing their jobs consistently at a high level. No one gives a shit what they are tired of.

"Shut up and do your job blocking for Tebow."

You're right, I'm sure they'll be fine with that. It's not like WRs are the diva type or care about their own stats...

[BigCatDaddy]

"Shut up and do your job blocking for Tebow."

You're right, I'm sure they'll be fine with that. It's not like WRs are the diva type or care about their own stats...

Or making any money in the league.

[listopencil]

You should, Mr. listopencil.

As your receivers begin to realize that their careers are stalled due to your offensive system, horrific locker room conflicts will emerge that will tear the team apart at the seams.

FAX

Decker is our only receiver who is playing consistently at a high level. Any other receiver on that entire team has no reason to complain.

[listopencil]

"Shut up and do your job blocking for Tebow."

You're right, I'm sure they'll be fine with that. It's not like WRs are the diva type or care about their own stats...


Then they can GTFO. None of them except Decker are doing their jobs well enough to have any complaint.

[BigCatDaddy]

Then they can GTFO. None of them except Decker are doing their jobs well enough to have any complaint.

And all kinds of guys will want to come in at the chance at 2 targets a game.

[Mile High Mania]

How long before the Denver WRs get tired of Tebow running the ball 30 times a game and throwing 1 or 2 passes at their feet? Anybody think they'll start missing an actual passing offense?

Here's the deal with regard to Denver's WRs...

Thomas has nothing to bitch about.

Royal had a great rookie season and has done little to nothing since then, even with Orton. He's a great guy, but he has nothing to bitch about.

Decker is a 2nd year guy that is being asked to play the #1 role and getting swarmed by the best DB... he's not running the best routes and he has made his share of drops. If he's got a complaint, it should be the fact that he's asked to do too much at this point in his career as the #1 weapon, he's just not ready to be that guy.

[listopencil]

And all kinds of guys will want to come in at the chance at 2 targets a game.

All kinds of guys want to play in the NFL. If your job is to run routes and get open then you need to do that. If you can't do that, then you have no reason to complain. If you complain anyway you can GTFO.

[Mile High Mania]

And, I'm sure the receivers are frustrated with the offense ... running routes and being decoys. But, I'm also fairly certain that for right now... they'll take this and being 5-5 versus what they've had for the last 18 months.

It has been, is and will continue to be a work in progress through this next off-season. Denver has some really good pieces to the puzzle, but if Tebow is their guy, they don't have all the right pieces in place.

[Ming the Merciless]

This guy was born with more balls tahn most men will ever have.

I wasn't aware that Tebow had a 3rd testicle....Interesting...

[listopencil]

Here's the deal with regard to Denver's WRs...

Thomas has nothing to bitch about.

Royal had a great rookie season and has done little to nothing since then, even with Orton. He's a great guy, but he has nothing to bitch about.

Decker is a 2nd year guy that is being asked to play the #1 role and getting swarmed by the best DB... he's not running the best routes and he has made his share of drops. If he's got a complaint, it should be the fact that he's asked to do too much at this point in his career as the #1 weapon, he's just not ready to be that guy.

True, but he is the best all-around WR we have right now.

[BigCatDaddy]

All kinds of guys want to play in the NFL. If your job is to run routes and get open then you need to do that. If you can't do that, then you have no reason to complain. If you complain anyway you can GTFO.

That's fine if you are content with not having any talent to throw to when the times comes to have to throw the ball. What talented WR is going to want to come play for Denver?

On the other side of the coin OL will love to come play for Denver.

[Mile High Mania]

True, but he is the best all-around WR we have right now.

Oh, there's no doubt and he has played very well... just saying that I think he'd even agree that it this point, he shouldn't be the #1 guy in an offense. I don't think he's built that way.

[FAX]

And, I'm sure the receivers are frustrated with the offense ... running routes and being decoys. But, I'm also fairly certain that for right now... they'll take this and being 5-5 versus what they've had for the last 18 months.

It has been, is and will continue to be a work in progress through this next off-season. Denver has some really good pieces to the puzzle, but if Tebow is their guy, they don't have all the right pieces in place.

ROFL

And, once other teams figure out how to contain the edge, you'll have to find some more "right pieces".

With all respect, Mr. Mile High Mania, I don't think the goat people from the mountains should get too excited about this situation. It's only a matter of time before Tebow winds up in traction.

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[listopencil]

That's fine if you are content with not having any talent to throw to when the times comes to have to throw the ball. What talented WR is going to want to come play for Denver?

On the other side of the coin OL will love to come play for Denver.

By "talented" do you mean a guy that will run routes correctly, work to get open, and be effective in run blocking? Or do you mean the latest Free Agent diva that thinks his shit doesn't stink? I don't really want any of the latter.

[listopencil]

Oh, there's no doubt and he has played very well... just saying that I think he'd even agree that it this point, he shouldn't be the #1 guy in an offense. I don't think he's built that way.

Yeah, I'm thinking Thomas is supposed to be that guy.

[Mile High Mania]

ROFL

And, once other teams figure out how to contain the edge, you'll have to find some more "right pieces".

With all respect, Mr. Mile High Mania, I don't think the goat people from the mountains should get too excited about this situation. It's only a matter of time before Tebow winds up in traction.

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You could be 100% accurate... Personally, I'm not fully onboard with this little bandwagon. Watching the games during the punt fests makes my eyes bleed and my heart cry.

We'll see what happens - right now, I'm just enjoying it for what it is... a bit better than watching them lose.

[BigCatDaddy]

By "talented" do you mean a guy that will run routes correctly, work to get open, and be effective in run blocking? Or do you mean the latest Free Agent diva that thinks his shit doesn't stink? I don't really want any of the latter.

The former tends to like to catch passes as well.

[listopencil]

The former tends to like to catch passes as well.

...and they will.

[Mile High Mania]

Yeah, I'm thinking Thomas is supposed to be that guy.

I think so too, but he's a 2nd year guy that really has missed the bulk of both years thanks to injury. The guy has talent, but he's never been able to get any chemistry going with the team. So, we'll see what happens.

If they can find a way to keep good defenses (CHI/NEP) honest with Thomas, Decker and Royal while running this "Wild Tebowption" offense... my game viewing would be less painful.

[listopencil]

I think so too, but he's a 2nd year guy that really has missed the bulk of both years thanks to injury. The guy has talent, but he's never been able to get any chemistry going with the team. So, we'll see what happens.

If they can find a way to keep good defenses (CHI/NEP) honest with Thomas, Decker and Royal while running this "Wild Tebowption" offense... my game viewing would be less painful.

Yep. True enough. We really are set up for the rebuild. I know it's painful to watch right now, but this rebuild has been a long time coming.

[Fish]

All kinds of guys want to play in the NFL. If your job is to run routes and get open then you need to do that. If you can't do that, then you have no reason to complain. If you complain anyway you can GTFO.

I agree with what you're saying. I just don't really think that actual decent WRs are going to agree.

Do you really think they'll be able to attract top tier WRs if Tebow is "passing"?

[listopencil]

I agree with what you're saying. I just don't really think that actual decent WRs are going to agree.

Do you really think they'll be able to attract top tier WRs if Tebow is "passing"?

We'll be able to attract WR's that fit our needs. I'm more worried about developing our own though.

[Mile High Mania]

I agree with what you're saying. I just don't really think that actual decent WRs are going to agree.

Do you really think they'll be able to attract top tier WRs if Tebow is "passing"?

Nobody knows... Tebow passed fairly well in 2 games last year with Lloyd in there as the deep threat and they seemed to have a good chemistry and production. If Thomas can improve and be the guy they think he can be, that will help a lot.

I'm sure elite guys may say no thanks and gravitate towards a more prolific passing attack, but you don't have to roll out stud WRs to be consistently successful.

[mdchiefsfan]

"In a world where h-backs write themselves into the record books, where the look option forces an array of mid-season rule changes, and where silent prayer is cooler than ass-capping among the male demographic ages 18 to 24, there is one man who stands apart ... one man who will fight against all odds for right ... and good ... and jorts. And that man is ... Noah Leroy Steinberg, Tim Tebow's product endorsement manager and agent."

"Armed only with a Bic, a pack of spearmint gum, and the knowledge that evil only triumphs when good men hold containment, Noah Leroy Steinberg enters the arena of contract negotiations with the kind of courage and bravery that can cause a normal man to take a knee. There is a time for peace and a time for war and there is a time for a decent egg over easy. But, for Noah Leroy Steinberg, the time is now ... before his client breaks his neck."

FAX

ROFL

[brett]

finallly a more positive thread for timmy tebow :D, so there is hope for man

[listopencil]

I agree with what you're saying. I just don't really think that actual decent WRs are going to agree.

Do you really think they'll be able to attract top tier WRs if Tebow is "passing"?

Toomer prefers Tebow to Mark Sanchez


Amani Toomer (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/941/amani-toomer), who won a Super Bowl ring with the New York Giants (http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/nyg/new-york-giants), would take Tim Tebow (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/13200/tim-tebow) over Mark Sanchez (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/12482/mark-sanchez) if he were starting a franchise today.


"I'm going Tebow. That sounds crazy, but I'm going Tebow," Toomer said Saturday morning on ESPN New York 1050, as a co-host on "The Dave Rothenberg Show."


Toomer, responding to a question from Rothenberg, chose Tebow, in part, because of Sanchez's lack of "upside."


"[Tebow] and Sanchez are both not great quarterbacks," Toomer said. "The only reason why I'd say Tebow is because we've seen what Sanchez can do. This is his third year. Tebow hasn't even started for a whole season. Give the kid an opportunity to prove himself a little bit more and I think he can ... work on his technique."


Toomer later added: "I'm not a huge Tebow supporter, but when you're going against Sanchez, it's not that big of a curve."


In his fifth career start, Tebow led the Denver Broncos (http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/den/denver-broncos) to a 17-13 win over Sanchez and the New York Jets (http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/nyj/new-york-jets) on Thursday night.


Tebow, 24, completed nine of 20 passes for 104 yards and rushed for 68 yards on eight carries. Sanchez, 25, was 24-for-40 for 252 yards, but threw a brutal third-quarter interception that Andre' Goodman (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/3596/andre%27-goodman) returned 26 yards for a game-tying touchdown.


Tebow led the Broncos on a 12-play, 95-yard touchdown drive in the final minutes of the game. The former Heisman Trophy winner accounted for 92 of Denver's 95 yards on the drive, including a 20-yard touchdown run on third-and-4 that sealed the win.


Pundits have questioned Tebow's NFL credentials because of an unorthodox throwing style. The left-hander had just two completions on eight attempts in a Nov. 13 win over Kansas City.


Toomer believes Tebow will "work tirelessly" to correct his mechanics.
"I'd rather have a guy with a deficiency like that, but at the end of the day he's going to put it all on the line and he's going to play with his heart," Toomer said. "I'd love that."


http://espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/story/_/id/7254336/amani-toomer-take-denver-broncos-qb-tim-tebow-new-york-jets-qb-mark-sanchez