Palko told he is starting in Chicago.

[Hammock Parties]

LMAO

Todd Haley = massive buffoon.

I hope we can all move on from supporting this clown now.

https://twitter.com/#!/JordanBernfield/status/141945045237506048

http://i42.tinypic.com/10gn1bl.jpg

[Hammock Parties]

Haley from today's presser: "Tyler’s the starter. We’re getting Kyle ready to play. He might have to play."

[Frosty]

I'm really hoping that this is just gamesmanship. Either that, or Haley and Pioli are intentionally trying to get a top 5 pick. :shake:

[Okie_Apparition]

1st round QB
hell yes!

[rocknrolla]

Smokescreen!

[Extra Point]

Todd Haley facepalm.

[Molitoth]

Sweet, chalk up another loss for draft stock!
I don't want Orton starting for the rest of the year.

[jd1020]

Haley wasting Hunt's money. This will not end well for him.

[listopencil]

Wow. Are they that afraid of an AbOrton?

[Hammock Parties]

The rest of the team will pack it in now.

Only a few high character guys like Hali are going to bother to play hard.

[listopencil]

I mean, Palko threw what? A hundred thirty seven interceptions last week? Not like an Ortonception could be scaring them of.

[Easy 6]

This cant possibly be true, no way.

[Fire Me Boy!]

Apparently in KC, you can't lose your starting position to injury or playing horribly.

[Dayze]

Palko will be the starting Punt & K/O return man.

[listopencil]

Just to be clear:


AbOrton:


<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/FhR4p6fFZBk" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

LMAO

Todd Haley = massive buffoon.

I hope we can all move on from supporting this clown now.

https://twitter.com/#!/JordanBernfield/status/141945045237506048

http://i42.tinypic.com/10gn1bl.jpg



Hey here's a newsflash, NFL coaches lie all the time.

[jd1020]

If Palko starts Sunday I think we can put to rest the whole "Pioli is forcing Cassel on Haley" argument.

Haley is just a dumbass.

[FAX]

This is going to be a defensive struggle.

FAX

[Okie_Apparition]

The national stage on his first two exposings were too much pressure

[jd1020]

Hey here's a newsflash, NFL coaches lie all the time.

Haley would have no reason to lie to one of his players... He didn't say this to the media.

[Thig Lyfe]

It's a little late to tank for the #1 pick...

[FAX]

Palkoh-no studies harder than anybody else on the whole, entire team.

FAX

[lcarus]

Another loss for draft position? I'm almost wishing Rivers hadn't muffed that snap on Halloween, McNabb finished that drive with a TD at the end, and we hadn't made a comeback on Indy. I'll still take demolishing the Raiders though. That would leave us at 1-10, and in the lead for Luck.

[mlyonsd]

Our passing offense is so complex it makes sense to have Orton wait until next year to start.

[fan4ever]

Our passing offense is so complex it makes sense to have Orton wait until next year to start.

Yeah...that's what I was thinking...

[BoneKrusher]

The rest of the team will pack it in now.

Only a few high character guys like Hali are going to bother to play hard.

Yep.
the way that Defense played vs the Steelers they deserve better than Wacko.
maybe Haley should play QB vs the Bears and let Peppers knock the crap outta him, its easy to see he's full of it.

[Fritz88]

Orton is looking at the Bears and Texans QB situations, looks to the sky and says "Why the Chiefs? Why?"...then starts plucking out his neck beard out of frustration..

[FAX]

Palkoh-no spends more time at the facilities than anybody else on the whole team.

FAX

[DeezNutz]

We're working methodically to develop Orton as our QBOTF.

[eazyb81]

Unf#ckingbelievable.

[SenselessChiefsFan]

I am trying not to read too much into this.

The first thought that comes to mind is that Haley really likes Palko, which is what I have thought all along. I didn't think it was a move by Pioli to keep Palko. I thought it was Haley choosing him.

The second thought comes to mind is that if Palko is starting over Orton after these last two games, then we cannot read anything into what Stanzi is or isn't. Clearly Haley will continue to start guys he likes even when there is a better player waiting.

Now, admittedly, I think Orton is mediocre, but mediocre is better than Palko. It has only been a week. If Palko starts and has another horrible game and Orton doesn't come in.... Pioli won't have to worry about firing Haley. No one will be able to find where I buried him.

(For the KCMO police department, FBI, etc.... the last line is a joke. I live in Atlanta and I am not wasting the gas to drive up there and kill him.)

[BoneKrusher]

Our passing offense is so complex it makes sense to have Orton wait until next year to start.

yeah those three yard dumpoffs are really complex.

[talastan]

Another loss for draft position? I'm almost wishing Rivers hadn't muffed that snap on Halloween, McNabb finished that drive with a TD at the end, and we hadn't made a comeback on Indy. I'll still take demolishing the Raiders though. That would leave us at 1-10, and in the lead for Luck.

Well what are the chances that we have for Barkley or RGIII? I know that Seattle, Miami, Washington, and us are all in the hunt. What are the chances that any of these teams take a different position other than QB; or that they win two or three more games? At least Tebow is taking the Donkeys out of the equation! :thumb: Go Donk Jesus Go!!

[FAX]

Palkoh-no's father was a coach.

FAX

[SenselessChiefsFan]

Palkoh-no spends more time at the facilities than anybody else on the whole team.

FAX

This is so true. And, Haley loves it. Haley doesn't realize that you need talent AND dedication....not just dedication.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Fine by me. Keep throwing him out there. This team doesn't need to fall ass-backward into a win the rest of the year.

[talastan]

This is so true. And, Haley loves it. Haley doesn't realize that you need talent AND dedication....not just dedication.

Hence the decision to start Failco and Cassel before him. :deevee:

[FAX]

Palkoh-no played at Pitt and beat out Flacco.

FAX

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

Haley would have no reason to lie to one of his players... He didn't say this to the media.

Yes Haley said this

adamteicherAdam Teicher

Haley from today's presser: "Tyler’s the starter. We’re getting Kyle ready to play. He might have to play."

[Bowser]

Palko probably knows some intern at some Chicago news blog, and told him Haley said to be ready, just in case. Now, the intern has broken his first huge NFL lead, and will have his own radio show in a month or so.

[Hammock Parties]

Chicago is tied for 2nd in the NFL in interceptions. LMAO

[evenfall]

Who really cares? This season is lost. Maybe Orton having less than a week of practice has something to do with why he is ahead at this moment.

Playing Orton would probably just reduce our chances of having someone besides Orton/Cassel starting 2012 week 1.

[jd1020]

Yes Haley said this

adamteicherAdam Teicher

Haley from today's presser: "Tyler’s the starter. We’re getting Kyle ready to play. He might have to play."

This thread is about what Palko was told by Haley...

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

This thread is about what Palko was told by Haley...

I'll go with what haley tells the media over palko.

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

DannyParkinsDanny Parkins


Orton off to a rocky start. As we walked off the field he drilled Breaston in the helmet on a 5 yard crossing route when he wasn't looking.

[Hammock Parties]

This thread is about what Palko was told by Haley...

No, it's about Haley telling Palko he's the starter, and Haley telling the media Palko is the starter.

WHAT COULD IT MEAN? :hmmm:

[FAX]

Palkoh-no prefers Carb-Smash to beer.

FAX

[Frosty]

This thread is about what Palko was told by Haley...

Actually, it's about what Palko told the Chicago media. Do you think that Pioli and Haley don't tell the players what to say to the opposing teams' media before a game?

[DaWolf]

Sweet. So after Palko throws a pick on his first play, and fumbles the handoff on his second play, Orton can come in down 14-0 and proceed to throw three more picks, but actually complete a 50 yard pass.

Still in the hunt for that top 5 pick...

[Bearcat]

Maybe I can find the Bengals/Steelers online...

[lcarus]

Palko, Orton....who gives a shit.

[talastan]

Yes Haley said this

adamteicherAdam Teicher

Haley from today's presser: "Tyler’s the starter. We’re getting Kyle ready to play. He might have to play."

Adam: "Hey Todd, what about your #2 Stanzi? Are you going to put him in if Falco, I mean Palko can't pull it off?"

Haley: "Who the **** is Stanzi?"

[4th and Long]

I mean, Palko threw what? A hundred thirty seven interceptions last week? Not like an Ortonception could be scaring them of.

Interceptions arent the issue. Knowing the playbook, is. *slap* :D

[BigMeatballDave]

I'd imagine he's on a very short leash.

[FAX]

Palkoh-no is the first to show up at practice every day.

FAX

[Bump]

unless they are trying to lose to get a better draft pick for Barkley or RGIII, Haley needs to be fired.

[suds79]

unless they are trying to lose to get a better draft pick for Barkley or RGIII, Haley needs to be fired.

This is the only thing I can think of.

PBJPBJPBJ

Hey if the Colts can do it, why can't we?

[Hammock Parties]

unless they are trying to lose to get a better draft pick for Barkley or RGIII, Haley needs to be fired.

It's pretty clear Pioli was responsible for signing Orton and Haley is stamping his feet like a petulant child.

[htismaqe]

Who really cares? This season is lost. Maybe Orton having less than a week of practice has something to do with why he is ahead at this moment.

Playing Orton would probably just reduce our chances of having someone besides Orton/Cassel starting 2012 week 1.

Not playing Orton increases the chance that Haley is truly fucking retarded and should be fired yesterday...

[suds79]

It's pretty clear Pioli was responsible for signing Orton and Haley is stamping his feet like a petulant child.

orrrr. He's slapping Pioli saying "Wake up man. What is winning another game going to do us? You'll thank me later when we have RG3 because of this."

I'm full on board.

[TRR]

Disappointing news.

Cassel, for me, was tolerable. Palko is harder to watch than any QB in recent memory. I'm not entirely sure why anyone would waste their Sunday afternoon to watch Palko start a third game after the first two letdowns.
Posted via Mobile Device

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

It's pretty clear Pioli was responsible for signing Orton and Haley is stamping his feet like a petulant child.

Did nick athan tell you this ?

[OnTheWarpath15]

Not playing Orton increases the chance that Haley is truly fucking retarded and should be fired yesterday...

Something tells me he already knows he's getting fired regardless of W/L over the last 5 games.

He hasn't been extended, and I don't see Pioli being the type to employ a lame-duck coach.

[Frazod]

This better be a fucking joke. IM GOING TO THIS GODDAMN GAME AND I DON'T WANT TO BE EMBARRASSED BY THAT FUCKING CLOWN.

:cuss::cuss::cuss::cuss:

[bevischief]

Chicago is tied for 2nd in the NFL in interceptions. LMAO

They will be 1st after this game.

[bevischief]

DannyParkinsDanny Parkins


Orton off to a rocky start. As we walked off the field he drilled Breaston in the helmet on a 5 yard crossing route when he wasn't looking.

LMAO

[FAX]

Palkoh-no sleeps with his playbook beneath his pillow.

FAX

[bevischief]

There are no real good games at noon on Sunday...

[WV]

Do you possibly think Haley is doing some of this as a jab to Pioli? He may know he's getting fired, so he's showing exactly what he thinks of Pioli's picks? That's the only way I can process this and I'm still in the Haley and Pioli camp (but their making it hard).

[Frazod]

There are no real good games at noon on Sunday...

If the weather forecast is accurate, I'll be sitting in freezing rain watching Failko throw 10 interceptions in a blow-out loss.

Woohoo. :banghead:

[BoneKrusher]

This better be a ****ing joke. IM GOING TO THIS GODDAMN GAME AND I DON'T WANT TO BE EMBARRASSED BY THAT ****ING CLOWN.

:cuss::cuss::cuss::cuss:

:clap:
i'll get embarrassed sitting in my den watching hoping no friends stop by.

[Frazod]

:clap:
i'll get embarrassed sitting in my den watching hoping no friends stop by.

Well, the Bears are my 2nd team. I could just wear Bears stuff-fuck, who am I kidding, I can't do that. Goddammit I wish I could.

FUCK

:cuss::cuss::cuss::cuss:

[FAX]

Our QB situation is a joke any way you look at it.

Oh no!!! Haley is starting a moron at quarterback instead of the other moron at quarterback!!! Let's start the new guy that's never played a regular season snap and didn't have an off-season or a training camp!!!

I, however, take solace in the knowledge that Palkoh-no prepares harder than anybody else on the whole, entire team.

FAX

[Iconic]

Disappointing news.

Cassel, for me, was tolerable. Palko is harder to watch than any QB in recent memory. I'm not entirely sure why anyone would waste their Sunday afternoon to watch Palko start a third game after the first two letdowns.
Posted via Mobile Device

This.
Not sure how any of you can watch a game of which you already know the outcome of. I stopped watching after the Miami game and have been satisfied with the extra free time. I suggest the same for all of you as well.

[HemiEd]

I'm really hoping that this is just gamesmanship. Either that, or Haley and Pioli are intentionally trying to get a top 5 pick. :shake:

Yeah, watching Tyler Palko perform worse than Cassel, must be the punishment they are inflicting on the fan base to make us appreciate Cassel.

It is just so wrong, they are going to destroy the moral and effort of the guys that have the skill and are trying to win.

[Frazod]

Our QB situation is a joke any way you look at it.

Oh no!!! Haley is starting a moron at quarterback instead of the other moron at quarterback!!! Let's start the new guy that's never played a regular season snap and didn't have an off-season or a training camp!!!

I, however, take solace in the knowledge that Palkoh-no prepares harder than anybody else on the whole, entire team.

FAX

Orton's the best QB we've had since Green.

[Bowser]

This better be a fucking joke. IM GOING TO THIS GODDAMN GAME AND I DON'T WANT TO BE EMBARRASSED BY THAT FUCKING CLOWN.

:cuss::cuss::cuss::cuss:

Which clown WOULD you like to be embarrassed by? The Chiefs entrance music should be March of the Clowns on Sunday.

[Frazod]

Yeah, watching Tyler Palko perform worse than Cassel, must be the punishment they are inflicting on the fan base to make us appreciate Cassel.

It is just so wrong, they are going to destroy the moral and effort of the guys that have the skill and are trying to win.

Are you going to the game, Ed?

[FAX]

Orton's the best QB we've had since Green.

With all respect, Mr. frazod ... that's not saying much, really.

FAX

[BoneKrusher]

Well, the Bears are my 2nd team. I could just wear Bears stuff-****, who am I kidding, I can't do that. Goddammit I wish I could.

****

:cuss::cuss::cuss::cuss:

i hear ya man.

[Bearcat]

This better be a ****ing joke. IM GOING TO THIS GODDAMN GAME AND I DON'T WANT TO BE EMBARRASSED BY THAT ****ING CLOWN.

:cuss::cuss::cuss::cuss:

http://www.ksallink.com/media/media.php?id=6004&path=2008-10-20&type=jpg&mode=constrain&width=320&height=480

[Reerun_KC]

Wow. Are they that afraid of an AbOrton?
I know I am...

[HemiEd]

Fine by me. Keep throwing him out there. This team doesn't need to fall ass-backward into a win the rest of the year.

How can you stand to watch that shit? I don't want to see that fucker ever take another snap, fuck.

[FAX]

Palkoh-no prepares the same way every single week.

FAX

[Stanley Nickels]

Orton's the best QB we've had since Green.

<img src="http://i.imgur.com/MOsPO.gif" border="0" /></a>

[listopencil]

Interceptions arent the issue. Knowing the playbook, is. *slap* :D


So are you implying that Palko knows the playbook?

[Frazod]

<img src="http://i.imgur.com/MOsPO.gif" border="0" /></a>

Seriously, who's been better? Huard? Brokie? Cassel? Hell, I'd take Thigpen over any of them and he sucked shit.

[OnTheWarpath15]

How can you stand to watch that shit? I don't want to see that fucker ever take another snap, fuck.

Simple.

Turn on Sunday Ticket, watch another game.

And even if I were forced to watch it, I'd gladly trade 5 more games of shit for a much higher draft pick.

Winning one or more of these last 5 doesn't help this organization - it only hurts it.

[Fire Me Boy!]

Seriously, who's been better? Huard? Brokie? Cassel? Hell, I'd take Thigpen over any of them and he sucked shit.

Thiggie was at least enjoyable to watch.

[Frosty]

So are you implying that Palko knows the playbook?

I think he does. He directs the protection better than Cassel did and he seems to know where he should throw the ball most of the time. He simply doesn't have the physical talent to actually make those throws.

[MahiMike]

It's too late to get as smart as the Colts. Shoulda broke Matt's hand earlier.

[FAX]

You know, it's getting more and more difficult to raise your guys' spirits.

Let's look on the bright side ... Palkoh-no has a really good mental attitude.

FAX

[Reerun_KC]

Simple.

Turn on Sunday Ticket, watch another game.

And even if I were forced to watch it, I'd gladly trade 5 more games of shit for a much higher draft pick.

Winning one or more of these last 5 doesn't help this organization - it only hurts it.

Agree, Playing Orton at any point only further hurts this franchise...

[Reerun_KC]

Thiggie was at least enjoyable to watch.

no he wasnt...

Nothing about him was enjoyable to watch....

[FAX]

no he wasnt...

Nothing about him was enjoyable to watch....

He was kinda like the toe corn of the team.

FAX

[HemiEd]

Not playing Orton increases the chance that Haley is truly ****ing retarded and should be fired yesterday...

I hate to say it, but I am starting to feel this way. If Palko plays, I have no interest in this team.

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

5games of palko at QB = Top 5 pick in draft and a real QB in KC. 5 Games gets you 10 years of a real NFL QB.

[DeezNutz]

5games of palko at QB = Top 5 pick in draft and a real QB in KC. 5 Games gets you 10 years of a real NFL QB.

I simply don't believe we're going to draft a QB, so worrying about all of this is pointless.

[pr_capone]

5games of palko at QB = Top 5 pick in draft and a real QB in KC. 5 Games gets you 10 years of a real NFL QB.

I will never root for this team to lose just for draft position. If there is any one thing I learned from Herm....

http://gifninja.com/animatedgifs/197910/you-play-to-win-the-game.gif

[Brock]

Orton needs more time to figure out the Haley offense. Doing stupid, illogical things in the most retarded way possible takes time to master.

[Frosty]

I simply don't believe we're going to draft a QB

I do. It will be the Blackledge of the draft, though, in Jones, there by furthering this teams' goal of ripping the souls out of the fans.

[Chiefnj2]

What was the point of bringing in Orton?

[HemiEd]

Are you going to the game, Ed?

No, in fact I am going to hide and not answer my phone. Enjoy it Tim!

The Bears fans are not too excited about their QB either.

To be honest, this will be the first weekend home in quite a while and I am looking forward to it.

[OnTheWarpath15]

I will never root for this team to lose just for draft position. If there is any one thing I learned from Herm....

I don't root for them to lose, I just don't get upset when they do.

[FAX]

Palkoh-no demonstrates his dedication every single day in practice.

FAX

[HemiEd]

I think he does. He directs the protection better than Cassel did and he seems to know where he should throw the ball most of the time. He simply doesn't have the physical talent to actually make those throws.

How about if he just threw off the correct foot, instead of that gay ass move he makes?

[DeezNutz]

I do. It will be the Blackledge of the draft, though, in Jones, there by furthering this teams' goal of ripping the souls out of the fans.

Classic style.

Here's the deal: while I agree that we need a first-round QB, I don't think it's set about where we need to be in the round, necessarily. Rodgers is a good example of this. Packers were far from being in "prime position," yet ended up with an unbelievable stud.

The draft falls in wacky ways. I'm not entirely convinced that Luck is God's gift to QBs, so, even if we somehow find ourselves at #10 overall, I think there's a decent chance of a high-quality QB being available at this pick.

...at which point Pioli will pass because we have Cassel.

[Frosty]

How about if he just threw off the correct foot, instead of that gay ass move he makes?

That's part of the lack of physical talent.

[Micjones]

Not sure what to make of this, but if Haley's defying Pioli by playing Palko...he's even more finished than he was already.

[FAX]

Palkoh-no loves being a Chief.

FAX

[HemiEd]

Simple.

Turn on Sunday Ticket, watch another game.

And even if I were forced to watch it, I'd gladly trade 5 more games of shit for a much higher draft pick.

Winning one or more of these last 5 doesn't help this organization - it only hurts it.

No fucking way would it be possible to totally watch another game while the Chiefs are on. I have gotten into temporary channel surfing though, it is getting easier.

[FAX]

No ****ing way would it be possible to totally watch another game while the Chiefs are on. I have gotten into temporary channel surfing though, it is getting easier.

ROFL

Actually, the best part about this season is listening to Mitch and Lenny try to talk about the game.

FAX

[kcxiv]

Its for the greater good. i am ok with it.

[Frosty]

Classic style.

Here's the deal: while I agree that we need a first-round QB, I don't think it's set about where we need to be in the round, necessarily. Rodgers is a good example of this. Packers were far from being in "prime position," yet ended up with an unbelievable stud.

The draft falls in wacky ways. I'm not entirely convinced that Luck is God's gift to QBs, so, even if we somehow find ourselves at #10 overall, I think there's a decent chance of a high-quality QB being available at this pick.

...at which point Pioli will pass because we have Cassel.

I'm at the point of completely giving up any idea that I can figure out what this team is going to do. Nothing they do with the QB makes any sense at all.

I've decided to just go with "God/the universe/fate/whatever hates the Chiefs fans". It hasn't let me down yet. :D

[the Talking Can]

painful

but necessary

lose baby, lose

[KC Hawks]

Orton is a young, developing player who's trying to get better every day.

[BoneKrusher]

What was the point of bringing in Orton?

looks like they claimed him because they needed someone to hold Cassel's clipboard.

[Bowser]

ROFL

Actually, the best part about this season is listening to Mitch and Lenny try to talk about the game.

FAX

Len sounds a little more pissed off and disgusted with each game, and I did not think that was possible.

[FAX]

Len sounds a little more pissed off and disgusted with each game, and I did not think that was possible.

ROFL

It's amazing how many times Lenny can groan in three hours. One would think that he was having his testicles massaged with Mitch's mythical hammer.

Speaking of which ... am I the only person who is sick to death of Mitch and his hammer deal? I mean, we're down by 20 points in the 4th quarter and he's going with the hammer thing again. It's driving me freaking crazy. I honestly wish he would jam that hammer up Pioli's ass and leave it there.

FAX

[Frazod]

No, in fact I am going to hide and not answer my phone. Enjoy it Tim!

The Bears fans are not too excited about their QB either.

To be honest, this will be the first weekend home in quite a while and I am looking forward to it.

How fucking sad is that - you're not going and the only reason I'm going is because a friend from out of town wants to go.

Fuck you, Clark. 4321

[HemiEd]

ROFL

Actually, the best part about this season is listening to Mitch and Lenny try to talk about the game.

FAX

I bet Lenny is getting cranky about the situation, as he is getting old enough to justify it. I wish we had him on up here.

[Chiefs Pantalones]

I will never root for this team to lose just for draft position. If there is any one thing I learned from Herm....

http://gifninja.com/animatedgifs/197910/you-play-to-win-the-game.gif

It's funny because Herm didn't know how to play to win. LMAO

[HemiEd]

How ****ing sad is that - you're not going and the only reason I'm going is because a friend from out of town wants to go.

**** you, Clark. 4321

Yeah, I had this circled on the calender. Went to three games at Soldier field last year.

No way would I have ever thought about wishing we had Cassel back behind center, no way.

[suds79]

What was the point of bringing in Orton?

It's Todd's message to Scott since he's dead man walking right? It's the only possible thing that makes sense.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-ZCdcydsqXlY/TtaW7XqrqrI/AAAAAAAACTg/UjzceaKKHzM/s400/11.jpg

[BoneKrusher]

No way would I have ever thought about wishing we had Cassel back behind center, no way.

i'd rather lose out than see Cassel back under center.

[The Bad Guy]

I just really want to finally wash my hands with this team. I hate the way they are run, I hate how they trot out 2nd class citizens at the most important position on the field. They serve us hot garbage every week and try to insist it's a 5 course meal.

F em all.

[007]

This better be a ****ing joke. IM GOING TO THIS GODDAMN GAME AND I DON'T WANT TO BE EMBARRASSED BY THAT ****ING CLOWN.

:cuss::cuss::cuss::cuss:

Sorry dude but Haley just screwed you.

[Frosty]

What was the point of bringing in Orton?

They just didn't want Chicago to claim him before they played the Bears. The Chiefs will release Orton on Monday.

(Hey! - it makes as much sense as anything else they do :shrug:)

[ChiefFripp]

Well no point in wasting time on this game.

[talastan]

Len sounds a little more pissed off and disgusted with each game, and I did not think that was possible.

Maybe Len gets so disgusted he straps on some cleats and goes and wins us another Super Bowl!!! Go for it Lenny!! ;)

[FAX]

In all seriousness, if you want to blame somebody for this drunk monkey ****, blame Pioli.

Haley has to play the only guy who knows the system somewhat. Pioli could have given him somebody else months ago ... or last year ... or the year before that ... to run in as quarterback when Cassel finally went down (which we all knew would happen eventually).

Orton hasn't even been with the team for a week.

FAX

[ChiefsCountry]

Palko gets the start and then Orton will take over later in the game. Basically a thank you start for Palko IMO.

[Hammock Parties]

Palko gets the start and then Orton will take over later in the game. Basically a thank you start for Palko IMO.

Thank you for what? Sucking a giant mountain of shit?

This is just Haley being a retard, which is what he does best.

[KCinNY]

It's Todd's message to Scott since he's dead man walking right? It's the only possible thing that makes sense.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-ZCdcydsqXlY/TtaW7XqrqrI/AAAAAAAACTg/UjzceaKKHzM/s400/11.jpg

Pretty much. Haley's attitude is like: "Jeesus Scott!!!Now you give me some depth?? Ever think about spending a little of that extra $30 million we've got on a decent RT or perhaps a backup safety who is actually worthy of an NFL paycheck??? Well F*** YOU!!! I'm starting Palko since you're gonna fire me anyway. Eat $hit!"

[Chiefs Pantalones]

I really don't see how Haley comes back, I really don't. I'd be surprised.

[Hammock Parties]

In all seriousness, if you want to blame somebody for this drunk monkey ****, blame Pioli.


Wrong.

There is no reason Haley can't play Orton other than the fact he is a stubborn little bitch going through his death throes.

[Frosty]

Palko gets the start and then Orton will take over later in the game. Basically a thank you start for Palko IMO.

Hopefully it will be after the first play, a hand-off to Battle.

[talastan]

In all seriousness, if you want to blame somebody for this drunk monkey ****, blame Pioli.

Haley has to play the only guy who knows the system somewhat. Pioli could have given him somebody else months ago ... or last year ... or the year before that ... to run in as quarterback when Cassel finally went down (which we all knew would happen eventually).

Orton hasn't even been with the team for a week.

FAX

This is why Stanzi should get the heads up over Orton if knowing the playbook is reason why Failco is starting. The first pick Palkoh-noz throws this weekend should put Stanzi on the field IMO.

[InChiefsHeaven]

With the way this FO is so secretive, it seems hard to believe that this would just slip out on a comment from Palko if it were not true. What...the...FUCK??

[Chiefs Pantalones]

Haley is just in over his head. He plays musical chairs with the OCs, he doesn't know if he wants to call his own plays and lets the OC do it because that's what he's been taught even thought he doesn't wan...WTF this guy is insane. Does he know what he's doing?

[FAX]

I really don't see how Haley comes back, I really don't. I'd be surprised.

I don't think he's going anywhere, but I wouldn't blame him if he did.

Pioli might fire him in order to cover his own ass, of course. But, regardless of what some believe, no other coach is going to get any more out of Cassel. Alternatively, Pioli might offer him an extension, but I doubt that Haley would accept one.

Haley got the shaft coming here. Pioli has done him no favors.

FAX

[FAX]

Wrong.

There is no reason Haley can't play Orton other than the fact he is a stubborn little bitch going through his death throes.

No offense or anything, but I'm not sure I'd take your advice on this one.

FAX

[ChiefFripp]

The only enjoyment we will get from this season is possibly playing spoiler for either Oakland or Denver.

[Hammock Parties]

No offense or anything, but I'm not sure I'd take your advice on this one.

FAX

Really?

Is Orton worse than Todd Bouman? He started for the Jaguars against the Chiefs last year after being signed during the week.

There is no reason Orton can't play this game. Come Sunday he will have been with the team 10 days.

[Hammock Parties]

But, regardless of what some believe, no other coach is going to get any more out of Cassel.

LMAOLMAOLMAO

Charlie Weis and Josh McDaniels already did. Are you really this blind?


Alternatively, Pioli might offer him an extension, but I doubt that Haley would accept one.

Haley got the shaft coming here. Pioli has done him no favors.

FAX

Yeah, he only lined his pockets with millions of dollars.

If Haley was offered an extension he would sign it in one second. You are obtuse.

[Chiefnj2]

How would Haley know he is fired?

Wouldn't the communication just get lost between Muir, Zorn and microphones that aren't turned on?

[KCUnited]

I'm fine with not abOrton our potential draft order.

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

LMAOLMAOLMAO

Charlie Weis and Josh McDaniels already did. Are you really this blind?



Yeah, he only lined his pockets with millions of dollars.

If Haley was offered an extension he would sign it in one second. You are obtuse.

No the PATS O was the best same o brady the year before 50TD AND Weis had charles.

[Chiefnj2]

No the PATS O was the best same o brady the year before 50TD AND Weis had charles.

and they now have Breaston and Baldwin yet crossing the 50 seems a major challenge.

[FAX]

Really?

Is Orton worse than Todd Bouman? He started for the Jaguars against the Chiefs last year after being signed during the week.

There is no reason Orton can't play this game. Come Sunday he will have been with the team 10 days.

I'm growing weary of this whole "Is he worse than the other guy who is worse than the guy the other guys have?" stuff.

It's tiresome and silly.

We have a quarterback problem for one reason and one reason only; we have no quality quarterbacks on the team.

Except possibly, for Stanzi, who is a complete unknown, was denied the benefit of an off-season and a training camp, and has never taken a regular season snap in the NFL.

So long as there is a mathematical chance to make the playoffs, they have no choice but to try and eke out a victory. It's really that simple and crying won't make it any better. Not this year.

FAX

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

and they now have Breaston and Baldwin yet crossing the 50 seems a major challenge.

Moss welker and stallworth in 2007>bowe baldwin breaston

[FAX]

No the PATS O was the best same o brady the year before 50TD AND Weis had charles.

Those are variables that don't count when a tantrum is in progress.

FAX

[HemiEd]

i'd rather lose out than see Cassel back under center.

How is losing out, going to have anything to do with whether Cassel comes back or not?

Cassel got hurt, Berry hurt, Charles hurt, Moeaki hurt, and we got to see a QB play that makes Cassel look good. Never mind the fact that he makes anyone that can breath and take a shit at the same time, look good.

Book it, we are stuck with this guy for a while, win or lose.

[Hammock Parties]

So long as there is a mathematical chance to make the playoffs, they have no choice but to try and eke out a victory.

Todd Haley would rather start Palko. That ain't trying.

[whoman69]

The good news is that Palko gives us 0% chance to win for the suck for RG3 crowd.

[htismaqe]

How is losing out, going to have anything to do with whether Cassel comes back or not?

Cassel got hurt, Berry hurt, Charles hurt, Moeaki hurt, and we got to see a QB play that makes Cassel look good. Never mind the fact that he makes anyone that can breath and take a shit at the same time, look good.

Book it, we are stuck with this guy for a while, win or lose.

I think losing out actually INCREASES the chance we see Cassel back.

Palko sucks down the stretch and Pioli has a built-in excuse - if we would have had Matt, we would have won those games.

[Hoover]

Haley probably knows the only way he can get a legit QB is if they Chiefs lose out, so get used to Palko

[HemiEd]

I think losing out actually INCREASES the chance we see Cassel back.

Palko sucks down the stretch and Pioli has a built-in excuse - if we would have had Matt, we would have won those games.

I could not agree more, you are right. Losing will make him look even better and more marketable to the "average" fan.

When Palko started the first time, his improved pocket presence was refreshing initially. But he really is pathetic and the same guy that played the last preseason game in Green Bay.

Going into this season, it was pretty well accepted that the worst thing we could have happen, is for Cassel to get injured. I am starting to believe Arrowhead really is built on some sacred burial ground.

[Jenson71]

Todd Failey.

[BoneKrusher]

How is losing out, going to have anything to do with whether Cassel comes back or not?



the post i quoted:
the guy said he never imagined he would want to see Cassel back, i assumed he meant for the Bears game.
and i'd rather lose with Wacco than see Cassel in a Chiefs uni again, he's a worthless piece o' shit.

[BigRock]

Is Orton worse than Todd Bouman? He started for the Jaguars against the Chiefs last year after being signed during the week.
Todd Bouman has been on and off the Jags' roster for years, has been through camps with them, and had already been on their roster last year until he was cut about two weeks before the KC game.

Kyle Orton got to KC five days ago. Not exactly the same situation.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

[notorious]

Haley probably knows the only way he can get a legit QB is if they Chiefs lose out, so get used to Palko

I agree.


Stanzi is being set up for our long-term backup, and we will get to draft a QB in the top 10.




The only obstacle: Scott Pioli.

[Titty Meat]

4-8 should officially put Haley on the hot seat.

[Hammock Parties]

4-8 should officially put Haley on the hot seat.

It'll probably get him fired immediately after the game.

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

4-8 should officially put Haley on the hot seat.

and if he beats the bears with palko?

[Hammock Parties]

and if he beats the bears with palko?

Then the moon will crash into the fucking earth.

[Micjones]

Haley probably knows the only way he can get a legit QB is if they Chiefs lose out, so get used to Palko

Problem is:
1. That's not his call to make.
2. He won't be around if this team drops every remaining game to help find the new QB.

[HemiEd]

and if he beats the bears with palko?

He was only one defensive TD away from beating the Steelers, so if the defense can score 21 Sunday, it could happen.

[ChiefsCountry]

I think alot of you are way overracting. Orton will play just think rationally for a minute. He has only had two practice under his belt if you count today. He got to KC on Friday for practice and then today. Players have off on Monday (film work) and Tuesday. He will get in the game sooner than later.

[Frosty]

I think alot of you are way overracting.

On ChiefsPlanet!?! No way!

[SPATCH]

Problem is:
1. That's not his call to make.
2. He won't be around if this team drops every remaining game to help find the new QB.

What makes you think that Pioli isn't completely onboard with the old "intentional, untentional walk"? They can keep starting Palko and claim that Orton isn't ready, lose a few more games, lock up a top 5-8 pick, draft a QBOTF, cut ties with Cassel, and start Orton next year. Meanwhile, when people are asking for Haley's head... Pioli can just point at all the injuries and spout off some shit about only being one year removed from a division title...

With the healthy return of our studs, another quality draft, and a shrewd free agency.. we're going to be in pretty good shape next season.

[SPATCH]

I'm sure this has already been pointed out... but Hanie is nearly as much of a lollercoaster as Palko

[SenselessChiefsFan]

Haley probably knows the only way he can get a legit QB is if they Chiefs lose out, so get used to Palko

Odd, since he will be helping the next staff get position to draft a QB.

[Nightfyre]

What makes you think that Pioli isn't completely onboard with the old "intentional, untentional walk"? They can keep starting Palko and claim that Orton isn't ready, lose a few more games, lock up a top 5-8 pick, draft a QBOTF, cut ties with Cassel, and start Orton next year. Meanwhile, when people are asking for Haley's head... Pioli can just point at all the injuries and spout off some shit about only being one year removed from a division title...

With the healthy return of our studs, another quality draft, and a shrewd free agency.. we're going to be in pretty good shape next season.

Awholelottathis.

[Titty Meat]

and if he beats the bears with palko?

That's not going to happen.

[Titty Meat]

It'll probably get him fired immediately after the game.

You think so?

[HemiEd]

What makes you think that Pioli isn't completely onboard with the old "intentional, untentional walk"? They can keep starting Palko and claim that Orton isn't ready, lose a few more games, lock up a top 5-8 pick, draft a QBOTF, cut ties with Cassel, and start Orton next year. Meanwhile, when people are asking for Haley's head... Pioli can just point at all the injuries and spout off some shit about only being one year removed from a division title...

With the healthy return of our studs, another quality draft, and a shrewd free agency.. we're going to be in pretty good shape next season.

Isn't Orton a free agent after this season, or did I miss a long term contract signing while I was traveling this last week?

[The Franchise]

Isn't this the last year of Haley's contract?

I don't see him getting fired during the season.

[Hammock Parties]

Isn't this the last year of Haley's contract?

I don't see him getting fired during the season.

He's under contract through 2012.

[Titty Meat]

Isn't this the last year of Haley's contract?

I don't see him getting fired during the season.

He's got another year of his contact.

[SPATCH]

Isn't Orton a free agent after this season, or did I miss a long term contract signing while I was traveling this last week?

He is.. the part about Orton starting and Cassel being let go may be a pipe dream. BUT THE REST APPLIES

[listopencil]

Orton is a young, developing player who's trying to get better every day.

It's a process.

[Chief_For_Life58]

What makes you think that Pioli isn't completely onboard with the old "intentional, untentional walk"? They can keep starting Palko and claim that Orton isn't ready, lose a few more games, lock up a top 5-8 pick, draft a QBOTF, cut ties with Cassel, and start Orton next year. Meanwhile, when people are asking for Haley's head... Pioli can just point at all the injuries and spout off some shit about only being one year removed from a division title...

With the healthy return of our studs, another quality draft, and a shrewd free agency.. we're going to be in pretty good shape next season.

I really hope this happens and we pick ahead of atleast miami or dc. both will most likely be going after qbs. Really dont want landry. Dude just doesnt seem like he can cut it. Oh yeah and lets just fire haley anyway and get a hc with a shit ton of experience at hc'ing

[notorious]

Palko is Comedy Central Channel's worst enemy.

[mdchiefsfan]

What was the point of bringing in Orton?

To keep him from going to Chicago, so Palko gets his first win as a starter.

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

http://videos.kansascity.com/vmix_hosted_apps/p/media?id=122640561&item_index=&genre_id=00000841

Orton today with media

[tredadda]

The OP is wrong in all sorts of ways. What does Orton starting do for us? Possibly give us a win vs Chicago? If anyone thinks this is a playoff team with or without Orton is foolish. I would rather start Palko in a game we could actually win because I want us to not jeopardize our draft stock.

[milkman]

Can't say I really care, one way or the other.

At most, Orton is going to help this team win one more game than they win otherwise.

What does that accomplish?

[FloridaMan88]

This is great news.

It is Blow for Barkley time.

[tredadda]

This is the only thing I can think of.

PBJPBJPBJ

Hey if the Colts can do it, why can't we?

Because some fans here would rather win 5-6 games total and finish middle of the pack as far as draft picks go.

Then we could recommend picking a LT (the in thing every year), get pissed when the good QBs are taken before we pick.

Then get pissed because we don't give up half our draft to move up (although if we did that, they would be pissed with that).

We continue to be average at best and defend the next career back up or washed out QB that is inevitably brought in thinking if we could just get an all world O-Line he will lead us to the SB.

We will realize that yet again he can't and we will continue in our playoff futility until our core players get old or move on.

We will repeat the QB cycle and blame Pioli because of the team's playoff failures.

We will continue the endless circle of playoff mediocrity that has plagued this organization for over 40 years indefinately.

But hey, at least we started Orton against Chicago and he led us to a victory. :thumb:

[The Franchise]

He's under contract through 2012.

He's got another year of his contact.

Gotcha.

If he's going to get fired....it'll be after this season.

[okcchief]

Orton would have been a better choice last week with no practice. If they don't play him this week the acquisition makes zero sense. I guess that goes hand in hand with most of the stupid shit they've done. Enough already.

[okcchief]

I guess it's a good thing to keep losing but I don't understand the logic or lack there of.

[LiveSteam]

The god for the Milkman

[htismaqe]

The OP is wrong in all sorts of ways. What does Orton starting do for us? Possibly give us a win vs Chicago? If anyone thinks this is a playoff team with or without Orton is foolish. I would rather start Palko in a game we could actually win because I want us to not jeopardize our draft stock.

Palko has started two games, turned the ball over 7 times and accounted for zero TDs.

While WE all understand that winning games at this point is probably counterproductive, do you REALLY want Pioli to retain a coach that would WILLINGLY continue to play Palko instead of Orton?

[Backwards Masking]

Palko has started two games, turned the ball over 7 times and accounted for zero TDs.

While WE all understand that winning games at this point is probably counterproductive, do you REALLY want Pioli to retain a coach that would WILLINGLY continue to play Palko instead of Orton?

Very well said.

I'm going to answer your rhetorical questions with a resounding "HELL NO"

[tredadda]

Palko has started two games, turned the ball over 7 times and accounted for zero TDs.

While WE all understand that winning games at this point is probably counterproductive, do you REALLY want Pioli to retain a coach that would WILLINGLY continue to play Palko instead of Orton?

At this point in the season I wouldn't care.If we were 7-4 and in the playoff hunt I would think differently. I see no point in winning anymore games this year and I would rather us lose out. Indy has no issues with it and they will end up with Luck. We will win 4-6 and be hoping for our QBOTF. If we miss him because we started Orton against Chicago when there was absolutely nothing to gain, I would be pissed. The same fans who are eager for Orton to play would be too when the season is over and the short term "high" of a win has worn off and reality sets in. Remember how ecstatic some were when we beat Minn? How bout Indy? Or Oak? Or SD? It felt good to win at the time, but now reality has set in and it all but screwed our chance at Luck.

We are still dangerously close to missing out on RGIII and Barkley without a trade up which I don't see this team doing. If this team does not realize that we need a QB then they all need to be removed. The message coming down to Haley should be to lose out as the season is shot. Anything less than focusing on a QB in this years draft and doing whatever it takes without jeopardizing it's future is short-sighted indeed. If that means we start 7 TO in two games Palko then so be it. Had Cassel been healthy we most likely would have still lost, so what's the difference between losing with Cassel and losing with Palko. Both suck and our offense was inept under both. Orton is not the savior everyone thinks he is. He shouldn't even be on this team as he does nothing for us.

[SPATCH]

Palko has started two games, turned the ball over 7 times and accounted for zero TDs.

While WE all understand that winning games at this point is probably counterproductive, do you REALLY want Pioli to retain a coach that would WILLINGLY continue to play Palko instead of Orton?

some people have absolutely no foresight.

open your fucking eyes and realize what the fuck is going on, bro. The season is lost. Holy shit.

[Backwards Masking]

At this point in the season I wouldn't care.If we were 7-4 and in the playoff hunt I would think differently. I see no point in winning anymore games this year and I would rather us lose out. Indy has no issues with it and they will end up with Luck. We will win 4-6 and be hoping for our QBOTF. If we miss him because we started Orton against Chicago when there was absolutely nothing to gain, I would be pissed. The same fans who are eager for Orton to play would be too when the season is over and the short term "high" of a win has worn off and reality sets in. Remember how ecstatic some were when we beat Minn? How bout Indy? Or Oak? Or SD? It felt good to win at the time, but now reality has set in and it all but screwed our chance at Luck.

We are still dangerously close to missing out on RGIII and Barkley without a trade up which I don't see this team doing. If this team does not realize that we need a QB then they all need to be removed. The message coming down to Haley should be to lose out as the season is shot. Anything less than focusing on a QB in this years draft and doing whatever it takes without jeopardizing it's future is short-sighted indeed. If that means we start 7 TO in two games Palko then so be it. Had Cassel been healthy we most likely would have still lost, so what's the difference between losing with Cassel and losing with Palko. Both suck and our offense was inept under both. Orton is not the savior everyone thinks he is. He shouldn't even be on this team as he does nothing for us.

that's all well and good, and i agree with all of it.

i think what htismag is concerned with is the fact that Haley SHOULD be on the hot seat (to put it mildy) and SHOULD be trying to win as many games as possible by the end of the year to hopefully keep his job.

The fact that he is starting a 0 TD 7 INT QB in the next despite better options tells us he's not concerned with winning. Which, from a draft and QBOTF standpoint is good. But from a Coaching Accountabililty standpoint, is f*cking horrible, cause it means Pioli's probably guaranteed Haley his job next season and is encouraging starting Palko to lose, wouldn't make sense otherwise.

Too bad Egoli and Haley weren't as smart Colts Owners and Caldwell and just tanked the season for Luck. To anyone who thinks I'm crazy for suggesting the Colts are losing on purpose answer this : WHY DOES CALDWELL GO 0-11 AND STILL HAVE A JOB?????

[Brock]

some people have absolutely no foresight.

open your fucking eyes and realize what the fuck is going on, bro. The season is lost. Holy shit.

Haley is trying to save his job. Do you not understand that?

[1ChiefsDan]

Haley would have no reason to lie to one of his players... He didn't say this to the media.Sure it was saying it to the media. The Chicago media requested to speak with the starting QB for the press conference today. Palko was asked this question during that call.

[Titty Meat]

Can't say I really care, one way or the other.

At most, Orton is going to help this team win one more game than they win otherwise.

What does that accomplish?

Gets us out of drafting a rookie QB and a chance at 9-7 next year.

[Titty Meat]

Gotcha.

If he's going to get fired....it'll be after this season.

Maybe but maybe not. There were rumors he was going to be fired if we lost the Indy game. I'm not saying Romeo would be on my list of coaches but I could see Pioli giving him a few games to be the HC this year and making him the coach next year.

[SPATCH]

Haley is trying to save his job. Do you not understand that?

I firmly believe that Pioli/Hunt/Haley are all on the same page here.

[Mr. Laz]

Pioli must be forcing Haley to start Palko.

[Brock]

I firmly believe that Pioli/Hunt/Haley are all on the same page here.

I have no idea why you would think this.

[Marcellus]

Haley is trying to save his job. Do you not understand that?

Looks more to me like he is trying to get fired.

Palko would have been cut by now if I were the coach.

[xztop12]

Sabby, Becht, Thomas Jones, Palko, and Terrance Copper are all Haley's guys. Make no mistake.

[xztop12]

Pioli must be forcing Haley to start Palko.

YESH! the GM gets the hole team, the coach must use timeouts and challenges wisely:)

[Brock]

Looks more to me like he is trying to get fired.

Palko would have been cut by now if I were the coach.

Well, sure, but there isn't, or at least wasn't, a better choice on the team. Palko will probably be out by halftime anyway.

[SPATCH]

I have no idea why you would think this.

http://i56.tinypic.com/672uso.gif

[BossChief]

Haley probably knows the only way he can get a legit QB is if they Chiefs lose out, so get used to Palko
Bullshit...if we draft a first round quarterback, Haley probably wont be his coach.

Going into this season, it was pretty well accepted that the worst thing we could have happen, is for Cassel to get injured. I am starting to believe Arrowhead really is built on some sacred burial ground.
Hold on, there.

Huh?
Then the moon will break in half in mid air and then crash into the fucking earth.
FYP ;)
Isn't this the last year of Haley's contract?

I don't see him getting fired during the season.
Really?
Can't say I really care, one way or the other.

At most, Orton is going to help this team win one more game than they win otherwise.

What does that accomplish?
It gets us Landry Jones or a Riley Reiff instead of Matt Barkley or RG3.

That's what.

[tredadda]

Sabby, Becht, Thomas Jones, Palko, and Terrance Copper are all Haley's guys. Make no mistake.

I hope you were kidding about Jersey Shore being a Haley guy. I don't see how it is possible for him to be part of the "right 53".

[SPATCH]

Bullshit...if we draft a first round quarterback, Haley probably wont be his coach.



Why? Cassel isn't one of Haley's guys.

I don't follow...

[Brock]

Why? Cassel isn't one of Haley's guys.

I don't follow...

LMAO He's going to be fired.

[Titty Meat]

Why do some people on here think Haley is going to be the coach next year?

[Marcellus]

Why do some people on here think Haley is going to be the coach next year?

The fact you don't think so pretty much makes it a lock. Feel free to save this post.

[Spott]

Might as well. We'd be better off losing out the rest of the season to draft a decent QB next year.

[Titty Meat]

The fact you don't think so pretty much makes it a lock. Feel free to save this post.

7 inch cock? Check. HIV-negative? Probably. Can make a girl cum? Not a fucking chance. Sorry Alberto, your dreams of being the John Holmes of Mexican performers just went down the shitter.

[Okie_Apparition]

The Green Bay Packers beat the Bronco Orton
but this way they don't have film of the Chief Orton
:Scanlon:

[Hammock Parties]

Why do some people on here think Haley is going to be the coach next year?

Because they like him and want to blame the problems the team has on everyone else.

They're wrong. He's gone, and I would be any amount of money on it.

[BossChief]

I have been in Haley's corner since his hire and think he is a master motivator and a personality that fits a young, developing team very well.

That said, as soon as Cassel went down (before Orton was claimed), I posted that if Palko straight up sucks and Haley keeps him in without moving on to Stanzi that is not any better than "the Cassel problem" and it would change my opinion of him.

That is absolutely happening.

Palko should have been sat the fuck down during the first game and cut during the week leading up to the Pittsburgh game and it was absolutely inexcusable for him to have started AND finished the last game.

Now, he is gonna start ANOTHER game?

Fuck that.

I dont care if they go to Orton or Stanzi (even though its obvious who he will go to) but there is no fucking way any smart man would keep trotting FailCo out there and expect us to believe its being done so with good judgment.

[Titty Meat]

I have been in Haley's corner since his hire and think he is a master motivator and a personality that fits a young, developing team very well.

That said, as soon as Cassel went down (before Orton was claimed), I posted that if Palko straight up sucks and Haley keeps him in without moving on to Stanzi that is not any better than "the Cassel problem" and it would change my opinion of him.

That is absolutely happening.

Palko should have been sat the **** down during the first game and cut during the week leading up to the Pittsburgh game and it was absolutely inexcusable for him to have started AND finished the last game.

Now, he is gonna start ANOTHER game?

**** that.

I dont care if they go to Orton or Stanzi (even though its obvious who he will go to) but there is no ****ing way any smart man would keep trotting FailCo out there and expect us to believe its being done so with good judgment.

Don't forget playing Sabby Pisscatelli, Thomas Jones, and running Dexter McCluster up the middle. Oh and his time management is worse than Herms.

[jspchief]

Only reason we got Orton was so we could keep Stanzi inactive.

[Mr. Laz]

Why do some people on here think Haley is going to be the coach next year?

Because some people still insist that Pioli is the evil puppeteer who forced every bad thing that happened on Haley. Haley is a tough,superior coach who showed his genius by single-handedly turning around the Arizona Cardinals to win a super bowl. Gailey was forced on Haley, Weis abandoned him ... Haley is a victim who should definitely continue to coach the Chiefs.

[BossChief]

Don't forget playing Sabby Pisscatelli, Thomas Jones, and running Dexter McCluster up the middle. Oh and his time management is worse than Herms.

Oh STFU

Every single coach in the NFL plays guys based on personal preference.

For every Sabby Pistachio of Haley, there is a Bowe or a DJ or a Fitzgerald.

Totally agree on the time management comment, though. Its one of the areas where he could surely use some help.

[Titty Meat]

Oh STFU

Every single coach in the NFL plays guys based on personal preference.

For every Sabby Pistachio of Haley, there is a Bowe or a DJ or a Fitzgerald.

Totally agree on the time management comment, though. Its one of the areas where he could surely use some help.

Sabby is one of the worst players in the league he shouldn't even be on a NFL roster let alone seeing playing time. Are you trying to pretend that Haley turned around Bowe and Fitzgeralds careers?

[BossChief]

Because some people still insist that Pioli is the evil puppeteer who forced every bad thing that happened on Haley. Haley is a tough,superior coach who showed his genius by single-handedly turning around the Arizona Cardinals to win a super bowl. Gailey was forced on Haley, Weis abandoned him ... Haley is a victim who should definitely continue to coach the Chiefs.

Haleys time management skills > Your ability to make a quality post

[BigMeatballDave]

Why do some people on here think Haley is going to be the coach next year?

Mostly because Pioli appears to be a dumbass.

[Backwards Masking]

Oh and his time management is worse than Herms.

Oooo, I don't know about that. Vermeil, Herm and Haley were all pretty damn awful when it came to clock management. Vermeil at least knew he had a great offense and could have gameplanned around it, but for some f*cking reason never did. That by itself might tip things in his favor.

but yeah, Haley's clock management is pretty disgusting in it's own right too.

Good ole Chiefs luck...

[Backwards Masking]

Mostly because Pioli appears to be a dumbass.

"dumbass" at this point is looking EXTREMELY generous.

[stonedstooge]

What I don't understand is that a good many people, myself included, wanted to give Haley another chance with a different quarterback. He has that now and isn't taking advantage of it? I'm done with him

[Messier]

I too have been a Haley supporter, but starting Palko for three, let alone one game is throwing in the towel. There comes a time when you leave conventional wisdom behind. I don't care that Orton is new to the playbook, or is a little behind. I KNOW he stands a better shot at winning than Palko. Orton most likely had a better chance at winning last week after being here two days. If Haley doesn't think so he probably needs to go.

[Titty Meat]

Mostly because Pioli appears to be a dumbass.

There's no doubt Pioli deserves blame but Haley deserves some too.

[BigMeatballDave]

Because some people still insist that Pioli is the evil puppeteer who forced every bad thing that happened on Haley. Haley is a tough,superior coach who showed his genius by single-handedly turning around the Arizona Cardinals to win a super bowl. Gailey was forced on Haley, Weis abandoned him ... Haley is a victim who should definitely continue to coach the Chiefs.

LMAO are you a 12 yr old girl?

[BossChief]

Sabby is one of the worst players in the league he shouldn't even be on a NFL roster let alone seeing playing time. Are you trying to pretend that Haley turned around Bowe and Fitzgeralds careers?

All Im saying is that every single coach has players that get field time due to the fact that the coach "likes them"

As to the Bowe and Fitzgerald comment? It must be embarrassing to be able to read things, but not be able to understand what they mean.

NOBODY would ever say that Haley "turned around their careers" but he absolutely took their games to the next level. It's not even up for debate.

Same with the way Haley dealt with Derrick Johnson...who he absolutely "turned his career around"....

Go ahead and throw Hali in there, too. He was always average till Haley got here...now, he is one of the games top 5 pass rushers and a consistent game changer.

Ill also contend that Haley took JCs game to the next level as well and that his early treatment of him (due to fumbling) was highly effective as JCs # of rushes per fumble and YPC and YAC have all significantly improved over the last 2 and a half years.

We can go round and round with this, but it will get us nowhere.

Just like this team without a quarterback.

[BigMeatballDave]

There's no doubt Pioli deserves blame but Haley deserves some too.

I'm of the opinion that if we had a good QB and this offense was competitive, no one would be complaining about Haley.

Case in point, Gruden.

Couldn't get over the hump in Oakland.

He had all the tools in Tampa.

Who supplies the tool? Scott Peterson. Fuck this guy.

[HemiEd]

Hold on, there.

Huh?


You hadn't heard?

[FAX]

Because some people still insist that Pioli is the evil puppeteer who forced every bad thing that happened on Haley. Haley is a tough,superior coach who showed his genius by single-handedly turning around the Arizona Cardinals to win a super bowl. Gailey was forced on Haley, Weis abandoned him ... Haley is a victim who should definitely continue to coach the Chiefs.

Exactly.

We have to stand together on this, Mr. Laz. After all, it's a Haley world and we're all just along for the ride.

And oh, what a ride it shall be. Tough, dedicated players determined to dominate the AFC for years, if not decades. Brilliant, gutsy fourth down calls galore and tons and tons of surprise on-side kicks. We're going to need plastic surgery so we can add more fingers for all the Super Bowl rings.

All we need to do is make sure our microphone is turned on when it's time to call in a play.

FAX

[Hammock Parties]

I'm of the opinion that if we had a good QB and this offense was competitive, no one would be complaining about Haley.

Case in point, Gruden.

Couldn't get over the hump in Oakland.

He had all the tools in Tampa.

Who supplies the tool? Scott Peterson. Fuck this guy.

LMAO

You shitting me?

Jon Gruden was 38-26 in Oakland and you want to compare him to 18-30 Todd Haley?

LMAOLMAOLMAOLMAOLMAO

I can't wait for Haley to be fired so all of these bullshit posts defending Haley disappear. Cus this guy is likely never going to be a head coach ever again. I imagine he'll have to eat shit as a wide receivers coach before he even gets an OC job.

[bevischief]

Exactly.

We have to stand together on this, Mr. Laz. After all, it's a Haley world and we're all just along for the ride.

And oh, what a ride it shall be. Tough, dedicated players determined to dominate the AFC for years, if not decades. Brilliant, gutsy fourth down calls galore and tons and tons of surprise on-side kicks. We're going to need plastic surgery so we can add more fingers for all the Super Bowl rings.

All we need to do is make sure our microphone is turned on when it's time to call in a play.

FAX

Take Palko with you when you go hit the caves and loose him...

[HMc]

I thought Clark was tight with money?

Haley still costs him 4 million in 2012 even if he fires him.

[BigMeatballDave]

LMAO

You shitting me?

Jon Gruden was 38-26 in Oakland and you want to compare him to 18-30 Todd Haley?

LMAOLMAOLMAOLMAOLMAO

I can't wait for Haley to be fired so all of these bullshit posts defending Haley disappear. Cus this guy is likely never going to be a head coach ever again. I imagine he'll have to eat shit as a wide receivers coach before he even gets an OC job.

Awesome. Thanks for missing my point entirely.

[Titty Meat]

All Im saying is that every single coach has players that get field time due to the fact that the coach "likes them"

As to the Bowe and Fitzgerald comment? It must be embarrassing to be able to read things, but not be able to understand what they mean.

NOBODY would ever say that Haley "turned around their careers" but he absolutely took their games to the next level. It's not even up for debate.

Same with the way Haley dealt with Derrick Johnson...who he absolutely "turned his career around"....

Go ahead and throw Hali in there, too. He was always average till Haley got here...now, he is one of the games top 5 pass rushers and a consistent game changer.

Ill also contend that Haley took JCs game to the next level as well and that his early treatment of him (due to fumbling) was highly effective as JCs # of rushes per fumble and YPC and YAC have all significantly improved over the last 2 and a half years.

We can go round and round with this, but it will get us nowhere.

Just like this team without a quarterback.



Dwayne is the same player only difference was last year they played an easier schedule, had a slightly better qb, and a running back who tied the YPC average.

Larry Fitzgerald was always putting up 80+ catches and 1,000 yard seasons.

Haley was playing guys like LJ and Savage ahead of Charles. He had no idea he was good.

[BossChief]

LOL Savage had 10 carries in 2009.

OMG

Haley sucks because Dantrelle Savage had 10 carries in 2009!!!

RUN!!!

[Titty Meat]

LOL Savage had 10 carries in 2009.

OMG

Haley sucks because Dantrelle Savage had 10 carries in 2009!!!

RUN!!!

LOL OMG I AM BOSS CHIEF I AM ALWAYZ RIGHT HEY GUYZ BUY CABLE FROM ME.

Understandable that the biggest cock sucker of Todd Haley would ignore the fact that despite a whole training camp Savage was indeed ahead of Charles on the Depth Chart for a few games in the regular season. He's Vince Lombardi!

[FAX]

Now, now. We're all fans of the same team here.

We may dislike different coaches or different GMs or different players for different reasons, but in the final analysis we, as Chiefs fans and Planeteers, share something very special.

We hate reposters.

FAX

[BossChief]

LOL OMG I AM BOSS CHIEF I AM ALWAYZ RIGHT HEY GUYZ BUY CABLE FROM ME.

Understandable that the biggest cock sucker of Todd Haley would ignore the fact that despite a whole training camp Savage was indeed ahead of Charles on the Depth Chart for a few games in the regular season. He's Vince Lombardi!

You have GOT to have a mental issue of some sort.

Todd Haley also buried Bowe, DJ and some others on the depth chart and every single one of them responded to it by taking their game to the next level.

Motivation.

How does it work?

[Hammock Parties]

Awesome. Thanks for missing my point entirely.

I think your point was garbage.

Gruden couldn't get over the hump in Oakland, but probably would have eventually.

Haley can't even find the hump in KC to get over.