Jared Gaither

[ModSocks]

Are you fucking kidding me? Are you guys watching this right now? He's playing better than I've ever seen Richardson play. He's having a great game. There is no way in hell that he doesn't have a place on our starting line.

How can they fuck this up? Haley & Pioli: FUCK YOU.

Thought this would make me feel a little better.....but it doesn't.


I can't believe they cut this guy. WTF were they thinking?

[Smed1065]

Not the right 53!

[Molitoth]

Maybe getting fired lit a fire under the ass? Sometimes that happens.

[Okie_Apparition]

He's closer to a first round pick than Gabbert

[Nightfyre]

Mod: Please merge. kthx

[BigChiefFan]

We picked up Orton on waivers, which means we had to get rid of a player on the roster. Gaither didn't do shit for us, so he was the odd man out. He was also only on a one year deal which might have played into the decision, as well.

[aturnis]

Dude is playing lights out. Just like he did eat and every time he stepped on the field for the Chiefs. Cutting Gaither was a fucking retarded move and I called it at the time, that he was completely healthy. Fuck Bill Muir. Dude can't assess OL talent or Coach it for his life.

Muir talked about the decision to release OT Jared Gaither, which came out of the blue earlier this week.

"I think basically the situation was pretty clear cut," Muir said. "Even though technically he was 100 percent healthy, I guess technically, physically I didn't see that as the offensive line coach/coordinator. I didn't see the physicalness or the explosiveness he had when he played at Batlimore."

Interesting. The Star reported previously that Gaither said he was healthy, and now the Chiefs say he was "technically" healthy, so maybe there are varying interpretations of exactly what healthy is.

Anyway, Muir went on to indicate that what Gaither lacked physically and explosively wasn't the sole determining factor in his release.

"But there were other circumstances involved in it as you manage your roster at this time of year," Muir said. "So it wasn't all about, 'Can he play?', 'Can't he play?' or 'Who's better?', it was a tactical decision we made."

Sounds like the Chiefs are saying it was a bigger priority to get David Mims some active roster time (with five games remaining which means this isn't an accrued season) rather than keep Gaither in a reserve role.

Mims was a bigger priority? What about Maneri? Couldn't you cut his worthless ass? Nope, Muir has a hard-on for him b/c he's white.

[Tribal Warfare]

this game needs to be GIF'D UP

[Okie_Apparition]

Gaither wasn't cut for Orton
some WR was

[Mr. Laz]

Muir has a hard-on for him b/c he's white.
:spock:

[O.city]

I'm to the point where I want a coach/fo that doesn't play favorites. This is bullshit.

[Mr. Laz]

Gaither wasn't cut for Orton
some WR was
Keary Colbert

[Okie_Apparition]

That sounds right

[aturnis]

We picked up Orton on waivers, which means we had to get rid of a player on the roster. Gaither didn't do shit for us, so he was the odd man out. He was also only on a one year deal which might have played into the decision, as well.

He didn't do shit for us b/c they didn't allow him to. He is a better LT than Albert, HANDS DOWN! Nobody got close to the QB when Gaither was blocking them, and he wasn't all that bad in the run game either.

Albert is a decent LT, but he would make a EXCELLENT LG, and his speed/athleticism would benefit our running game quit a bit with him pulling.

Having Gaither, Albert, Hudson, Asamoah, and a Player to be determined would have been AMAZING. Especially with the skill position players we already have. A QB and a stud RB to pair with Charles and we'd have been SET.

[aturnis]

:spock:

Maneri dummy!

[Titty Meat]

Fire Pioli/Haley

[aturnis]

I'm to the point where I want a coach/fo that doesn't play favorites. This is bullshit.

I'm about the biggest Haley supporter on this board. Every man has his breaking point. With this, I've about reached mine.

I want to know why, and I want to know now. Thank GOD we've got the KC media who won't ask the tough questions. Thank GOD! I was pissed off when I saw the cut, as I knew he was perfectly healthy, and I'm even more pissed now seeing him perform.

fuck

this.

[RealSNR]

This coaching staff said Gaither was worthless?

Lol. And they expect us to believe that Ricky Stanzi "just isn't ready"

I've never been more convinced than I am now that keeping Stanzi beneath Palko was done on purpose, and not because Stanzi is a worse QB than Palko. There are other idiotic, stupid, and fucktarded reasons why this is the case.

I KNEW Gaither was good to go. He was our best offensive lineman on the roster during preseason. And Stanzi was our best QB during preseason.

And what do they have in common?

[Okie_Apparition]

Charges must have put a clause in his contract that he had to play so many snaps before he could go on IR ROFL

[doomy3]

This coaching staff said Gaither was worthless?

Lol. And they expect us to believe that Ricky Stanzi "just isn't ready"

I've never been more convinced than I am now that keeping Stanzi beneath Palko was done on purpose, and not because Stanzi is a worse QB than Palko. There are other idiotic, stupid, and ****tarded reasons why this is the case.

I KNEW Gaither was good to go. He was our best offensive lineman on the roster during preseason. And Stanzi was our best QB during preseason.

And what do they have in common?

This just shows how fucking retarded Haley is. There is no universe that Richardson is better than Gaither. I don't give a shit if he doesn't practice as hard or whatever other bullshit reason he gives. He is a FAR more talented player.

Shit like that, and playing Palko over Orton should cost Haley his job.

Pioli could have done more this offseason, but who knows if it would have even done any good. Gaither was a good signing, and Haley got absolutely nothing out of him.

[Mecca]

I'm to the point where I want a coach/fo that doesn't play favorites. This is bullshit.

They've been playing favorites since the day they got here, get use to it.

[aturnis]

This coaching staff said Gaither was worthless?

Lol. And they expect us to believe that Ricky Stanzi "just isn't ready"

I've never been more convinced than I am now that keeping Stanzi beneath Palko was done on purpose, and not because Stanzi is a worse QB than Palko. There are other idiotic, stupid, and ****tarded reasons why this is the case.

I KNEW Gaither was good to go. He was our best offensive lineman on the roster during preseason. And Stanzi was our best QB during preseason.

And what do they have in common?

Maybe there really is fire between Haley and Pioli and they were both Pioli decisions and Haley is trying to prove he's smarter than Pioli by winning without them, only, he isn't winning.

[Mr. Laz]

Maneri dummy!
if you think black/white had anything to do with it then i'm not the dummy.

[Mecca]

Maybe there really is fire between Haley and Pioli and they were both Pioli decisions and Haley is trying to prove he's smarter than Pioli by winning without them, only, he isn't winning.

At this point the Chiefs are cheap and have no depth because of it, while having largely inept coaching staff, it's a recipe for success.

[RealSNR]

When your favorite team is run by fucking morons, it's really difficult to hold any kind of pride for them.

I'm officially embarrassed to say I'm a Chiefs fan when people ask me.

[Tribal Warfare]

When your favorite team is run by fucking morons, it's really difficult to hold any kind of pride for them.

I'm officially embarrassed to say I'm a Chiefs fan when people ask me.

This Gaither thing confirms it , Haley/Muir need to get the fuck out of KC and stay gone

[Mecca]

When your favorite team is run by fucking morons, it's really difficult to hold any kind of pride for them.

I'm officially embarrassed to say I'm a Chiefs fan when people ask me.

Sometimes being a sports fan is highly frustrating hobby.

[The Bad Guy]

Muir's worthless ass should be gone tomorrow.

[Titty Meat]

Muir's worthless ass should be gone tomorrow.

Todd will promote him to Assistant Coach.

[Mecca]

I'd just love to hear why Gaither and Hudson weren't gone to, to start say the final 6-8 games this year.

You'd think it would be smart to see what we have on the OL going forward.

[FAX]

Hold on Gaither.

That just doesn't happen.

FAX

[O.city]

I'd just love to hear why Gaither and Hudson weren't gone to, to start say the final 6-8 games this year.

You'd think it would be smart to see what we have on the OL going forward.

This. Our fo seems to beleive they are still inhe playoff race.

Hell they tried to play Lilja over Hudson Sunday.

[MoreLemonPledge]

Well, from what I've seen he's not doing so hot.

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

HOW is that not a flag on gaither?

[Fat Elvis]

Todd will promote him to Assistant Coach.

http://uranus.ckt.net/~gochiefs/muir.gif

[FAX]

HOW is that not a flag on gaither?

It appears that they're letting some holds go uncalled. I'm pretty used to that, though.

FAX

[Rasputin]

This coaching staff said Gaither was worthless?

Lol. And they expect us to believe that Ricky Stanzi "just isn't ready"

I've never been more convinced than I am now that keeping Stanzi beneath Palko was done on purpose, and not because Stanzi is a worse QB than Palko. There are other idiotic, stupid, and ****tarded reasons why this is the case.

I KNEW Gaither was good to go. He was our best offensive lineman on the roster during preseason. And Stanzi was our best QB during preseason.

And what do they have in common?

What pissed me off most during preseason, they kept from playing Stanzi in the last game & I don't remember him playing the second to last game. They had Cassel in against the Packers turd team scrubbs and couldn't move the damn ball in the fourth quarter. They wanted so baddly for Cassel to take head to the offense and he never clicked, doing the same thing with Palko and totally neglecting Stanzi.

[Okie_Apparition]

He injured him

[Deberg_1990]

Wow, with or without Gaither we would still have 5 wins right now.

[-King-]

This is the biggest overreaction I've seen over 1 half of football In a long time LMAO .
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[FAX]

This is the biggest overreaction I've seen over 1 half of football In a long time LMAO .
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Gaither to Gaither for the score!!!

FAX

[Deberg_1990]

I'd just love to hear why Gaither and Hudson weren't gone to, to start say the final 6-8 games this year.

You'd think it would be smart to see what we have on the OL going forward.

Id just love to know why you disappeared last year when the Chiefs were 10-6 and won their division?

[FAX]

Ouch. Damn.

Yep. That was a hold.

FAX

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

once again how is that not a flag

[O.city]

Sorry for the overreaction. I'm not even watching the game. Just going by the cp buzz.


It's finals 2 weeks for myself. I'm stuck in the library. 13 finals in 10 days is pretty killer.

[-King-]

ROFL
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[FAX]

Gaither with the tackle!!!

FAX

[Marcellus]

Gaither to Gaither for the score!!!

FAX

Get him and Tebow on the same team and look out!

[FAX]

ROFL

Maurice.

FAX

[FAX]

This team needs more Gaither.

FAX

[-King-]

Sorry for the overreaction. I'm not even watching the game. Just going by the cp buzz.


It's finals 2 weeks for myself. I'm stuck in the library. 13 finals in 10 days is pretty killer.

What in the hell? ROFL You have like the most posts in this thread and the mnf game thread taking about Gaither and you're not even watching the game? LMAO
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[Okie_Apparition]

Stamina not a strong suit apparently

[Mecca]

Id just love to know why you disappeared last year when the Chiefs were 10-6 and won their division?

Kinda funny I haven't been a regular poster since well before that.

[Titty Meat]

I think it's funny Mecca comes back to remind people how much this team sucks and then people get all offended.

[-King-]

Id just love to know why you disappeared last year when the Chiefs were 10-6 and won their division?

He was here during the 3 game losing steak to start the year too. Nowhere to be found when we won 4 in a row.
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[O.city]

What in the hell? ROFL You have like the most posts in this thread and the mnf game thread taking about Gaither and you're not even watching the game? LMAO
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I know.


I was just adding to the reaction.

It's boring as shit in this library.

[Deberg_1990]

I think it's funny Mecca comes back to remind people how much this team sucks and then people get all offended.

Its because he plays the "I called it months ago" game and only comes by during the bad times.

[Marcellus]

He was here during the 3 game losing steak to start the year too. Nowhere to be found when we won 4 in a row.
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To be fair, Mecca is here tonight after a rousing win against a 7-4 team on the road in December.

[Hammock Parties]

this game needs to be GIF'D UP

I will definitely look at his PFF rating.

[Mecca]

Its because he plays the "I called it months ago" game and only comes by during the bad times.

I haven't been around to call anything.

[SenselessChiefsFan]

Gaither isn't great, but as I have said all season, he is better than Richardson. The fact that he never got an opportunity is yet another reason that Haley should be gone.

[Hammock Parties]

Gaither isn't great, but as I have said all season, he is better than Richardson. The fact that he never got an opportunity is yet another reason that Haley should be gone.

Why is everyone reluctant to implicate Pioli in this?

[doomy3]

Why is everyone reluctant to implicate Pioli in this?

Typically, the GM gets the players and the HC decides who plays, right?

[Hammock Parties]

Typically, the GM gets the players and the HC decides who plays, right?

Yeah, but no one on this team gets cut without Pioli's approval.

[doomy3]

Yeah, but no one on this team gets cut without Pioli's approval.

What's the point of keeping him on the roster if the coach isn't ever going to play him anyway? He was on our roster for 12 weeks and couldn't get on the field. That decision is on Haley.

[doomy3]

Same thing as Pioli going out and getting an upgrade at QB in Orton and Haley refusing to play him because we have Tyler fucking Palko.

[Marcellus]

Same thing as Pioli going out and getting an upgrade at QB in Orton and Haley refusing to play him because we have Tyler ****ing Palko.

Yea I am sure they paid Orton $2MM for 6 games and never discussed who was going to play.

[SenselessChiefsFan]

Why is everyone reluctant to implicate Pioli in this?

Once a guy is on the team, the coach controls who plays. Yes, that includes Cassel, Stanzi, Orton and Palko.

Haley is the problem.

[FAX]

It is truly amazing that Richardson got the starts over Gaither. Given Muir's comments about the deal, it makes even less sense because, apparently, Gaither was in good enough shape to start for the Vagos.

He held like an anaconda the whole game, but still - Richardson has to go ... and could have gone. As usual, there's probably more to the story that we'll never know. That doesn't fix the ORT problem, though.

FAX

[beach tribe]

Id just love to know why you disappeared last year when the Chiefs were 10-6 and won their division?

He left because he needed time for everyone to forget that he said his first move as GM would be to cut Hali because he was a wasted pick, and that he posted a picture of a girl, who he said he was bangin, and someone soon found the rest of the pics...on a porn site
Among more of some of the most ridiculous posts you could ever imagine.
It was BRUTAL

[SenselessChiefsFan]

Yea I am sure they paid Orton $2MM for 6 games and never discussed who was going to play.

I am sure they did discuss it. But, Haley makes the call.

[doomy3]

Yea I am sure they paid Orton $2MM for 6 games and never discussed who was going to play.

What are you implying? That Pioli signed him to sit behind Palko, which is what he was doing?

[ChiefsCountry]

Its funny how butthurt some of you are over Mecca, its quite comical.

[doomy3]

Its funny how butthurt some of you are over Mecca, its quite comical.

You think he's a douche too though, don't you?

[ChiefsCountry]

You think he's a douche too though, don't you?

Yeah he is a douche but its just amazing just how fucking butthurt people are over him.

[Marcellus]

What are you implying? That Pioli signed him to sit behind Palko, which is what he was doing?

I am implying that yes Pioli has a role in the decision. Period.

[jd1020]

Haven't been watching the game, but... How many TD passes does Gaither have tonight?

[beach tribe]

Its funny how butthurt some of you are over Mecca, its quite comical.

I'm surprised he's come back at all after the embarrassment he caused himself.

[FAX]

He left because he needed time for everyone to forget that he said his first move as GM would be to cut Hali because he was a wasted pick, and that he posted a picture of a girl, who he said he was bangin, and someone soon found the rest of the pics...on a porn site
Among more of some of the most ridiculous posts you could ever imagine.
It was BRUTAL

What?

FAX

[greg63]

The Jag defense is not exactly a litmus test.

[doomy3]

The Jag defense is not exactly a litmus test.

According to Football Outsiders, the Jags had the #2 ranked defense as far as efficiency coming into this week.

http://footballoutsiders.com/stats/teamdef

[greg63]

According to Football Outsiders, the Jags had the #2 ranked defense as far as efficiency coming into this week.

http://footballoutsiders.com/stats/teamdef

Never read that.

[beach tribe]

What?

FAX

You missed it Fax. You were on one of you hiatuses. It was EPIC.
Hopefully someone will pull it up for you.
Dude brought a battering on himself to likes of which I have never seen, and then he disappeared.
Right before the 2010 season, he said his first move as GM would be to cut waste of space Hali.
And the hot chick he was bangin stuff belongs in the HOC.

[Marcellus]

According to Football Outsiders, the Jags had the #2 ranked defense as far as efficiency coming into this week.

http://footballoutsiders.com/stats/teamdef

You have watched the game right?

[jd1020]

Jags D has 3 more sacks than the Chiefs D. Lets not pretend they have some all wordly pass rush. And they are down to what? 3rd string right now?

[doomy3]

Never read that.

They have also given up the 5th fewest points/game and the 4th fewest yards/game.

[greg63]

Jags D has 3 more sacks than the Chiefs D. Lets not pretend they have some all wordly pass rush. And they are down to what? 3rd string right now?

I think they were recruiting off the street at half time.

[doomy3]

You have watched the game right?

Yeah, I've watched the whole game. They are getting dominated. Going into this game though, they have been a very good D.

[greg63]

They have also given up the 5th fewest points/game and the 4th fewest yards/game.

Apples and oranges; if they were playing the game on paper then they would probably win hands down.

[Hammock Parties]

John Chick is actually a decent pass rusher and so is Jeremy Mincey.

Gaither played well.

[doomy3]

Apples and oranges; if they were playing the game on paper then they would probably win hands down.

I have no idea what this post is supposed to mean. I'm sorry that your initial post in this thread was retarded. The Jaguars actually have a good defense, and the Chargers dismantled it tonight.

[The Bad Guy]

Muir's talent evaluations should have him fired immediately.

Who cuts a tackle late in the year? Good fucking jesus.

[FAX]

Chalk this one up for the Gaithers.

I feel badly for that Gabbert guy, though. He looks a whole lot like one of our quarterbacks.

FAX

[-King-]

Yeah, I've watched the whole game. They are getting dominated. Going into this game though, they have been a very good D.

They were missing 3 starters including 2 defensive ends
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[Hammock Parties]

Muir's talent evaluations should have him fired immediately.

Who cuts a tackle late in the year? Good fucking jesus.

Muir doesn't cut anyone.

Pioli is responsible for this.

[jd1020]

Muir doesn't cut anyone.

Pioli is responsible for this.

You are boring now.

[FAX]

Muir mumbled some amazing crap about Gaither in some interview last week, though ... something about Gaither not being athletic enough. Then he nodded off for a minute.

FAX

[FAX]

You are boring now.

Now?

Don't worry though, Mr. jd1020. I cast fie upon him awhile ago, so now he's all covered with fie.

Plus, I've been giving his voodoo doll a major work-over. So, by this point, his groin area has to be causing him nine kinds of grief.

FAX

[cabletech94]

Now?

Don't worry though, Mr. jd1020. I cast fie upon him awhile ago, so now he's all covered with fie.

Plus, I've been giving his voodoo doll a major work-over. So, by this point, his groin area has to be causing him nine kinds of grief.FAX

like it wasn't already?LMAO

[Dave Lane]

Same thing as Pioli going out and getting an upgrade at QB in Orton and Haley refusing to play him because we have Tyler ****ing Palko.

Are you mentally ill?

[FAX]

Are you mentally ill?

Truthfully, it's that kind of season.

NFL fans throughout the world are scratching their heads and killing kittens and making little statuettes out of mud that sit cross-legged and have giant breasts.

FAX

[doomy3]

Are you mentally ill?

What about that post do you disagree with?

[aturnis]

He left because he needed time for everyone to forget that he said his first move as GM would be to cut Hali because he was a wasted pick, and that he posted a picture of a girl, who he said he was bangin, and someone soon found the rest of the pics...on a porn site
Among more of some of the most ridiculous posts you could ever imagine.
It was BRUTAL

Please point me in the direction of this brutality.

[aturnis]

I admit, I overreacted about Gaither. He did have a few hold later on, but then again, his first start... Still upset, I bet he grades out well, and is 10x the tackle Richardson is...

[-King-]

I admit, I overreacted about Gaither. He did have a few hold later on, but then again, his first start... Still upset, I bet he grades out well, and is 10x the tackle Richardson is...
Against the Jags 3rd string DE...
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[Nightfyre]

I admit, I overreacted about Gaither. He did have a few hold later on, but then again, his first start... Still upset, I bet he grades out well, and is 10x the tackle Richardson is...

All of which doesn't matter if hes a lazyass who refuses to play RT. There could have been a lot going on that we weren't aware of here. But please, everyone, assume whatever lens you view the world through is omniscient.

[doomy3]

Against the Jags 3rd string DE...
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This may be the case, but do think that Richardson is a better option than Gaither? Do you think Mims or whoever that white tackle we have is is a better swing tackle than Gaither?

[-King-]

This may be the case, but do think that Richardson is a better option than Gaither? Do you think Mims or whoever that white tackle we have is is a better swing tackle than Gaither?

Eh. It's a wash. Gaither always seemed to fuck up when he played. He only played a few plays, but he made a shit load of mistakes in them.
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[BigMeatballDave]

Sawhorse > Richardson

[BigMeatballDave]

Orange construction barrel > Richardson

[chiefzilla1501]

He didn't do shit for us b/c they didn't allow him to. He is a better LT than Albert, HANDS DOWN! Nobody got close to the QB when Gaither was blocking them, and he wasn't all that bad in the run game either.

Albert is a decent LT, but he would make a EXCELLENT LG, and his speed/athleticism would benefit our running game quit a bit with him pulling.

Having Gaither, Albert, Hudson, Asamoah, and a Player to be determined would have been AMAZING. Especially with the skill position players we already have. A QB and a stud RB to pair with Charles and we'd have been SET.

Not this shit again

Albert is fine at LT. Albert should absolutely start over Gaither. And Albert should absolutely not play Guard.

[aturnis]

Not this shit again

Albert is fine at LT. Albert should absolutely start over Gaither. And Albert should absolutely not play Guard.

Ok....

[Nightfyre]

I'm just saying.... if we absolutely couldn't get luck or rg3, and Kalil fell to us, I would be willing to cave to the LT crew.

[BigMeatballDave]

Albert isn't great but he's plenty good enough.

He was kicking Harrisons ass.

[aturnis]

Albert isn't great but he's plenty good enough.

He was kicking Harrisons ass.

All I'm saying is he is decent. Period. He's not good, or great, he's decent. 5 sacks and 8 penalties through 12 games.

In not quite 4 yrs. he's given up 26.5 sacks and committed 26 penalties.

I agree, if Luck, Barkley and RG3 are gone by our pick, I'd go a different position altogether. I'm probably not going LT. More likely Trent Richardson, ILB, or NT.

[-King-]

All I'm saying is he is decent. Period. He's not good, or great, he's decent. 5 sacks and 8 penalties through 12 games.

In not quite 4 yrs. he's given up 26.5 sacks and committed 26 penalties.

I agree, if Luck, Barkley and RG3 are gone by our pick, I'd go a different position altogether. I'm probably not going LT. More likely Trent Richardson, ILB, or NT.

Richardson will go in the top 10 also.
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['Hamas' Jenkins]

Why would this team spend a top 12 pick on a RB?

[jspchief]

Against the Jags 3rd string DE...
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Does it matter? The only reasonable explanation for Gaither not at least getting a shot at Richardson's snaps would be if he was a full blown cripple.

It's not like he needs to have the game of the century against the steel curtain to justify getting on the field in place of Richardson.

Seeing him able to play a complete game without completey shitting himself is enough to say our FO/coaches made an inexcusable mistake.

Hell, if the guy goes on IR tomorrow, he still did enough to make me think he should have seen time on the field as our RT.

[Hammock Parties]

Why would this team spend a top 12 pick on a RB?

If Charles' knee is fucked, and it's BPA, why not?

All the QBs might be gone.

[BigMeatballDave]

If Charles' knee is fucked, and it's BPA, why not?

All the QBs might be gone.

I'd do it if the big 3 QBs are gone.
Even if Charles comes back like he was, that would be a great duo.

[Nightfyre]

Why would ANY team spend a top 12 pick on a RB?
FYP

['Hamas' Jenkins]

If Charles' knee is fucked, and it's BPA, why not?

All the QBs might be gone.

Running backs are a dime a dozen.

[Titty Meat]

If Charles' knee is ****ed, and it's BPA, why not?

All the QBs might be gone.

Chris Polk or Montee Ball will be ballers and be there in round 2/3

[jspchief]

Running backs are a dime a dozen.

That explains us trotting out Jones, McLackluster, and Battle.

[Fritz88]

If Charles' knee is fucked, and it's BPA, why not?

All the QBs might be gone.

I would trade down in that case.
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[BigMeatballDave]

I would trade down in that case.
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Or a DL from LSU. We've never done that...

[BoneKrusher]

Once a guy is on the team, the coach controls who plays. Yes, that includes Cassel, Stanzi, Orton and Palko.

Haley is the problem.

Yep
exactly and if the chiefs drafted our OBOTF he would ride the pine and Haley would still play Palko.

[King_Chief_Fan]

Maybe getting fired lit a fire under the ass? Sometimes that happens.

agree......... Ravens didn't want him, Raiders didn't want him, did nothng for the Chiefs and got cut. He is working the last 5 games for a pay check.
He was playing against a pretty weak defense last night.
I don't care about Gaither

[SenselessChiefsFan]

Yep
exactly and if the chiefs drafted our OBOTF he would ride the pine and Haley would watch the Chiefs on TV next year.


FYP.

[BoneKrusher]

FYP.

:clap:

[Chiefnj2]

Muir's talent evaluations should have him fired immediately.

Who cuts a tackle late in the year? Good ****ing jesus.

You think it was Muir's call? Muir is still trying to find the on/off switch on his head set that he was given in preseason game 1. He's not the guy cutting players.

[Dave Lane]

agree......... Ravens didn't want him, Raiders didn't want him, did nothng for the Chiefs and got cut. He is working the last 5 games for a pay check.
He was playing against a pretty weak defense last night.
I don't care about Gaither

Seriously. Who gives a half a fuck about an unmotivated lazy turd been cut all over?

[Coogs]

We picked up Orton on waivers, which means we had to get rid of a player on the roster. Gaither didn't do shit for us, so he was the odd man out. He was also only on a one year deal which might have played into the decision, as well.

I don't get this. Shouldn't Cassel going to the IR list opened up a roster spot? Or did we fill that with someone else?

[tooge]

this is very simple. He didn't fit Haley and Piolis "way". Same as Bernard Pollard. That is my biggest beef with this front office and head coach, is that they will jettison a player if they don't think his attitude meshes completely with what they want, regardless of talent. It is the same model that Pitt has. Look at the players up there. If they don't give 100% all the time to the team "way", they aren't there.

[SenselessChiefsFan]

Seriously. Who gives a half a **** about an unmotivated lazy turd been cut all over?

He was cut from Baltimore. He was passed on by Oakland. They didn't cut him.

The Chiefs had him. The Chiefs offensive line SUCKS. They cut him and he is starting and playing well in SD 7 days after he was cut.

Given that Haley has continued to support and talk up Palko. Given that Haley let JC ride the bench and started LJ.

Then, we have Waters and Haley getting into it when he first arrived. Waters was let go this year.

Gaither is just another example of a player who is clearly more talented than a starter that was not given a chance.

[doomy3]

He was cut from Baltimore. He was passed on by Oakland. They didn't cut him.

The Chiefs had him. The Chiefs offensive line SUCKS. They cut him and he is starting and playing well in SD 7 days after he was cut.

Given that Haley has continued to support and talk up Palko. Given that Haley let JC ride the bench and started LJ.

Then, we have Waters and Haley getting into it when he first arrived. Waters was let go this year.

Gaither is just another example of a player who is clearly more talented than a starter that was not given a chance.


Was he even cut by Baltimore? I thought they just let him walk in free agency. I'm thinking we're the only team that has actually cut him. But, not every team can be as set along the offensive line as we are.

[BoneKrusher]

Gaither is just another example of a player who is clearly more talented than a starter that was not given a chance.

and this has happened a lot since Haley's been here.
another example of why he's not qualified to be a HC.

[Chiefnj2]

Gaither has always been known to be a bit of a slacker and not the hardest worker in practice. A few years ago he was a very good tackle for the Ravens, but they grew tired of his work habits and constant "injuries".

He's kind of like Haynesworth, a player with natural talent to play well, but a guy who doesn't really love the game and all that comes with it.

I can't really fault KC for cutting a guy who has a known history of being really lazy and missing lots of practice time. Is he better than Richardson, yes - when he wants to be. This season is a waste anyway, so move on and don't reward a non-team player that might have a negative effect on Hudson or some other younger guys.

[Nightfyre]

Running backs are a dime a dozen.

Running backs also have some of the most volatile levels of production and some of the shortest shelf-lives in the NFL. Coupled with the fact that there are almost always some sleepers deeper in the draft, it doesn't make sense from a value perspective to draft a runningback really anywhere in the top 20 in my mind.

[ChiefsCountry]

Overreaction Planet again.

[-King-]

this is very simple. He didn't fit Haley and Piolis "way". Same as Bernard Pollard. That is my biggest beef with this front office and head coach, is that they will jettison a player if they don't think his attitude meshes completely with what they want, regardless of talent. It is the same model that Pitt has. Look at the players up there. If they don't give 100% all the time to the team "way", they aren't there.

Yeah, but Pollard sucks.
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[-King-]

and this has happened a lot since Haley's been here.
another example of why he's not qualified to be a HC.

It has? Like when?
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[BoneKrusher]

It has? Like when?
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three that come to mind:

starting LJ over Charles.

starting T Jones over Charles

starting Palko over Stanzi

[Fansy the Famous Bard]

three that come to mind:

starting LJ over Charles.

starting T Jones over Charles

starting Palko over Stanzi

Starting Cassell over [Insert Name]

[-King-]

three that come to mind:

starting LJ over Charles.

starting T Jones over Charles

starting Palko over Stanzi


Those are the only 3 that come to mind? Three instances (well 2 because the 2nd one is BS) constitutes as ” happening too much”?
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[BoneKrusher]

Those are the only 3 that come to mind? Three instances (well 2 because the 2nd one is BS) constitutes as ” happening too much”?
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the OLine, i know there has to be better linemen on the Roster than BR

[-King-]

the OLine, i know there has to be better linemen on the Roster than BR

There isn't.


Who knew that all you had to do to get chiefs planet to cream their shorts was to have an above average game against a 3rd stringer.
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[BoneKrusher]

There isn't.


then there's a problem.

[-King-]

then there's a problem.

Yeah and Gaither wasn't the solution to that problem.
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[BoneKrusher]

Yeah and Gaither wasn't the solution to that problem.
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based on his play with the Chargers last night i beg to differ.

[-King-]

based on his play with the Chargers last night i beg to differ.

...against a 3rd string DE.
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[whoman69]

Or a DL from LSU. We've never done that...

I would say a DL from Alabama since they actually play a 3-4.

[whoman69]

I don't get this. Shouldn't Cassel going to the IR list opened up a roster spot? Or did we fill that with someone else?

It did which was filled by Orton. Gaither's spot was filled by Mims.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

ROFL You've got to be shitting me. You guys are nuts getting bent out of shape over his play last night.

[Chiefnj2]

It did which was filled by Orton. Gaither's spot was filled by Mims.

What about Colbert, someone said he was released to make room for someone else.

[BoneKrusher]

...against a 3rd string DE.
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i'm just saying Haley should have shuffled to OLine to get the best talent on the field.

[Chiefnj2]

i'm just saying Haley should have shuffled to OLine to get the best talent on the field.

You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it practice Tuesday through Friday.

[BoneKrusher]

You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it practice Tuesday through Friday.

and Practice helps BR?

[Pasta Little Brioni]

i'm just saying Haley should have shuffled to OLine to get the best talent on the field.

Right Tackle is not a position worth acting like toddlers over.

Yeah, we've got a shitty one, but it's not like it's a difficult position to fill.

[BoneKrusher]

Right Tackle is not a position worth acting like toddlers over.

Yeah, we've got a shitty one, but it's not like it's a difficult position to fill.

i agree but before the Chiefs get a Real QB under center it needs to be filled.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

i agree but before the Chiefs get a Real QB under center it needs to be filled.

Sadly, I feel we will be waiting a while :(

[ChiefsCountry]

i agree but before the Chiefs get a Real QB under center it needs to be filled.

LMAO

[bricks]

Right Tackle is not a position worth acting like toddlers over.

Yeah, we've got a shitty one, but it's not like it's a difficult position to fill.

Well, maybe for most teams but definately not the Chiefs.

When is the last time they had a good right tackle?

And how often have they tried to address the position but failed miserably?

[SenselessChiefsFan]

Is he better than Richardson, yes - when he is breathing.

FYP

[ChiefsCountry]

Chief fans have way too much obession over offensive lineman.

[Chiefnj2]

Yeah, we've got a shitty one, but it's not like it's a difficult position to fill.

It is in KC. They haven't had a good RT since Tait left in 2003.

[bricks]

Chief fans have way too much obession over offensive lineman.

Chief fans have way too much obession over quarterbacks.

NTTAWWT

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Well, maybe for most teams but definately not the Chiefs.

When is the last time they had a good right tackle?

And how often have they tried to address the position but failed miserably?

Who were the Right Tackles on the last 5 Super Bowl winning teams? It really isn't a position to give much a fuck about.

[htismaqe]

What about Colbert, someone said he was released to make room for someone else.

Colbert was cut to sign Orton.

Cassel went to IR so they could continue shuffling Becht and Tucker.

[htismaqe]

It is in KC. They haven't had a good RT since Tait left in 2003.

2003 is still 30-plus years SOONER since we've seen a real franchise QB in this town.

[Quesadilla Joe]

I will definitely look at his PFF rating.

We were questioned for suggesting Jared Gaither could be v good pickup for SD. Perfect in pass-pro. 1 penalty after being signed mid-weekhttps://twitter.com/#!/ProFootbalFocus/status/144087200504627200

[Chiefnj2]

2003 is still 30-plus years SOONER since we've seen a real franchise QB in this town.

What's your point? They both need to be upgraded.

[ChiefsCountry]

Chief fans have way too much obession over quarterbacks.


As they should, its the only positon that matters in the NFL.

[bricks]

Who were the Right Tackles on the last 5 Super Bowl winning teams? It really isn't a position to give much a **** about.

Please. Thats one of the most absurd things I've heard.

It's part of the offensive line and every position on the offensive line is important.

I'd reccommend that you go back, rewind the tapes of past Chiefs games and just see how Richardson is a revolving door and couldn't pass protect if his life depended on it.

He is a big part of the reason why the Chiefs offense is at the basement in passing offense every year.

*Pass protection bro. Chiefs lack it.

*W/ no pass protection its harder to develop a passing game.

[ChiefsCountry]

We have a true fan alert. True fan alert.

[bricks]

As they should, its the only positon that matters in the NFL.

It is one of the most important positions, no doubt.

But I can't understand why some close their minds to other positions?

Football is a team game. Every position has value. Okay maybe some have more impact than others, but still....can't treat other positions like they are a grain of salt either.

[Micjones]

Who were the Left Tackles on the last 5 Super Bowl winning teams?

FYP.

Most fans don't keep up with Offensive Linemen around the league.

[BoneKrusher]

As they should, its the only positon that matters in the NFL.

Yep
its like the Field of Dreams, if you build it, they will come.

if you have a QB your chances of winning will come.

[-King-]

Please. Thats one of the most absurd things I've heard.

It's part of the offensive line and every position on the offensive line is important.

I'd reccommend that you go back, rewind the tapes of past Chiefs games and just see how Richardson is a revolving door and couldn't pass protect if his life depended on it.

He is a big part of the reason why the Chiefs offense is at the basement in passing offense every year.

*Pass protection bro. Chiefs lack it.

*W/ no pass protection its harder to develop a passing game.

A good quarterback would make this line look great.
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[listopencil]

Please. Thats one of the most absurd things I've heard.

It's part of the offensive line and every position on the offensive line is important.

I'd reccommend that you go back, rewind the tapes of past Chiefs games and just see how Richardson is a revolving door and couldn't pass protect if his life depended on it.

He is a big part of the reason why the Chiefs offense is at the basement in passing offense every year.

*Pass protection bro. Chiefs lack it.

*W/ no pass protection its harder to develop a passing game.

Absolutely. The O-Line is like a team within a team. You have to have guys who are at least serviceable at each position and one or two impact players. Then they have to play together over a period of time to develop chemistry. The O-Line positions aren't like any other in football in that regard.

[ModSocks]

Who were the Right Tackles on the last 5 Super Bowl winning teams? It really isn't a position to give much a **** about.

Yet RT is a revolving down that continuously gives up pressures and hits on our QB's. Yeah, not a need at all.....

[listopencil]

A good quarterback would make this line look great.
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A good line will make a mediocre QB look great, and allow you to run the ball.

[ModSocks]

A good line will make a mediocre QB look great, and allow you to run the ball.

First hand experience right here, listen to the man.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Please. Thats one of the most absurd things I've heard.

It's part of the offensive line and every position on the offensive line is important.

I'd reccommend that you go back, rewind the tapes of past Chiefs games and just see how Richardson is a revolving door and couldn't pass protect if his life depended on it.

He is a big part of the reason why the Chiefs offense is at the basement in passing offense every year.

*Pass protection bro. Chiefs lack it.

*W/ no pass protection its harder to develop a passing game.

LMAO Matt Cassel and Tyler Palko...that is why the Chiefs are 30th in passing.

[ModSocks]

LMAO Matt Cassel and Tyler Palko...that is why the Chiefs are 30th in passing.

Also true. But that doesn't mean we should neglect the RT position and release players that are Clearly more talented than the guy you have starting.

[BoneKrusher]

Absolutely. The O-Line is like a team within a team.

yep, anyone who don't agree take a look at film of the OLine DV put together in KC.

[ChiefsCountry]

A good line will make a mediocre QB look great, and allow you to run the ball.

See Chiefs 1990 to 2005.

[RealSNR]

i agree but before the Chiefs get a Real QB under center it needs to be filled.Holy crap LMAO

[listopencil]

yep, anyone who don't agree take a look at film of the OLine DV put together in KC.

See Chiefs 1990 to 2005.

Yeah, I was thinking exactly that when I was typing. I'm surprised any Chiefs fan would have to be reminded of it. I still savor the memories of that KC-BAL game (MNF?) where Ray Lewis just got wtfpwnt over and over again.

[BoneKrusher]

Holy crap LMAO

so you think the Chiefs have a real QB under center? LMAO

[ChiefsCountry]

Yeah, I was thinking exactly that when I was typing. I'm surprised any Chiefs fan would have to be reminded of it. I still savor the memories of that KC-BAL game (MNF?) where Ray Lewis just got wtfpnt over and over again.

I have more memories of Elway, Manning and Marino fucking us more than our line knocking people us out.

[doomy3]

Chief fans have way too much obession over offensive lineman.

You're going a little overboard and attempting to create a straw man that isn't there.

No one is suggesting that RT is a more important position than QB.

But that doesn't mean we should make a habit of sitting a guy who is infinitely more talented than the guy we are trotting out there, and then to just release him so that we can promote an undrafted FA who was on our practice squad.

Also, we are playing a left handed QB right now. I don't think that any position on the field is as meaningless as you're suggesting. QB is far and away the most important position, but it isn't by any means the ONLY position that matters.

[BoneKrusher]

Yeah, I was thinking exactly that when I was typing. I'm surprised any Chiefs fan would have to be reminded of it. I still savor the memories of that KC-BAL game (MNF?) where Ray Lewis just got wtfpwnt over and over again.

yeah, that was awesome.

[listopencil]

I have more memories of Elway, Manning and Marino ****ing us more than our line knocking people us out.

Somebody needs to dig up that gif again.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Yeah, I was thinking exactly that when I was typing. I'm surprised any Chiefs fan would have to be reminded of it. I still savor the memories of that KC-BAL game (MNF?) where Ray Lewis just got wtfpwnt over and over again.

You can have 5 Hall of Fame O-lineman, but when you are trotting out Howdy-Doody at QB it won't win shit.

You can however win a championship with a shitty RT and below average line with an elite QB.

[ChiefsCountry]

You're going a little overboard and attempting to create a straw man that isn't there.

No one is suggesting that RT is a more important position than QB.

But that doesn't mean we should make a habit of sitting a guy who is infinitely more talented than the guy we are trotting out there, and then to just release him so that we can promote an undrafted FA who was on our practice squad.

Also, we are playing a left handed QB right now. I don't think that any position on the field is as meaningless as you're suggesting. QB is far and away the most important position, but it isn't by any means the ONLY position that matters.

The line play including Barry Richardson has looked better since Cassel has been gone. And thats with Tyler Fucking Palko.

[doomy3]

You can have 5 Hall of Fame O-lineman, but when you are trotting out Howdy-Doody at QB it won't win shit.

You can however win a championship with a shitty RT and below average line with an elite QB.

This is well understood. We shouldn't make a habit of drafting RTs in the first round. How about we play the best players who are on our team though?

[listopencil]

You can have 5 Hall of Fame O-lineman, but when you are trotting out Howdy-Doody at QB it won't win shit.

Eli Manning says "Hello".

You can win a championship with a shitty RT and below average line with an elite QB.

1995 John Elway just stopped in for coffee. He says "Hello" as well.

[-King-]

Also true. But that doesn't mean we should neglect the RT position and release players that are Clearly more talented than the guy you have starting.

Talent =/= production. Gaither fucked up every time he was on the fields it seems. I don't remember anyone being happy with how he played the few opportunities he's gotten. He may be talented, but something is very wrong with him.
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[listopencil]

...and yes, I do have a time machine in the kitchen next to the coffee maker. Johnny Unitas is going to come over and talk about audibles with me later/earlier/now.

[ChiefsCountry]

How about we play the best players who are on our team though?

Jared Gaither wasn't one of them.

[-King-]

so you think the Chiefs have a real QB under center? LMAO

No, he thinks we need a quarterback much more than we need a RT and we should prioritize qb before RT.
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[Frosty]

I didn't see the game last night. Is Gaither playing left tackle for the Chargers or right?

[-King-]

Eli Manning says "Hello".



1995 John Elway just stopped in for coffee. He says "Hello" as well.
2010 Aaron Rodgers says ”what's up?”
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[doomy3]

No, he thinks we need a quarterback much more than we need a RT and we should prioritize qb before RT.
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Again, I think this is pretty well understood.

In fact, what was the last move we made before releasing Gaither?

We paid a QB $2.5 million in an attempt to upgrade the position. Of course, he wasn't an upgrade over Palko either according to our HC.

[BoneKrusher]

No, he thinks we need a quarterback much more than we need a RT and we should prioritize qb before RT.
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i agree we need a QB but i also think RT needs to be upgraded.

[listopencil]

2010 Aaron Rodgers says ”what's up?”
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Too bad there's only one of him.

[ChiefsCountry]

Of course, he wasn't an upgrade over Palko either according to our HC.

I swear you guys take press conference bullshit to heart. Orton going in in the second quarter is a pretty big statement that the Palko era was over.

[BoneKrusher]

I didn't see the game last night. Is Gaither playing left tackle for the Chargers or right?

Left

[philfree]

I didn't see the game last night. Is Gaither playing left tackle for the Chargers or right?

Left.

[-King-]

Again, I think this is pretty well understood.

In fact, what was the last move we made before releasing Gaither?

We paid a QB $2.5 million in an attempt to upgrade the position. Of course, he wasn't an upgrade over Palko either according to our HC.

No I was replying to Bone Krusher saying that we shouldn't get a qb until the rt spot is filed.
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[Pasta Little Brioni]

i agree we need a QB but i also think RT needs to be upgraded.

Of course it does, but it's not worth getting ones panties in a bunch over.

[doomy3]

I swear you guys take press conference bullshit to heart. Orton going in in the second quarter is a pretty big statement that the Palko era was over.

Haley has already said that Orton was coming in for that specific play (flea flicker) and Palko was coming back in. And even if the Palko era was over, why the fuck did he even start that game in the first place?

[BoneKrusher]

Of course it does, but it's not worth getting ones panties in a bunch over.

like i said i just think he could have worked out in KC if he had been givin' a chance but Dumbass Haley fixed that.

[-King-]

i agree we need a QB but i also think RT needs to be upgraded.

Wait do you want to get an RT before getting a QB or do you want to prioritize getting a qb?

You can't have it both ways.
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[Pasta Little Brioni]

Haley has already said that Orton was coming in for that specific play (flea flicker) and Palko was coming back in. And even if the Palko era was over, why the fuck did he even start that game in the first place?

No clue. Orton isn't the answer, but he at least belongs in this league. Seems like every pass Palko threw was a bubble screen or under 5 yards in the air. I don't remember a throw further than 15 yards down the field.

[-King-]

Haley has already said that Orton was coming in for that specific play (flea flicker) and Palko was coming back in. And even if the Palko era was over, why the fuck did he even start that game in the first place?

Link?
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[listopencil]

Haley has already said that Orton was coming in for that specific play (flea flicker) and Palko was coming back in. And even if the Palko era was over, why the **** did he even start that game in the first place?

Do you know of any updates on Orton's condition? He played for us with a badly injured finger. I hope the guy does well, except against my Broncos.

[ChiefsCountry]

Haley has already said that Orton was coming in for that specific play (flea flicker) and Palko was coming back in. And even if the Palko era was over, why the **** did he even start that game in the first place?

Haley was just blowing smoke to protect Palko. He isn't going to throw him under the bus to media. It was pretty clear they were getting Orton ready to go. He got 40% of the snaps in practice this past week after just arriving.

[doomy3]

No clue. Orton isn't the answer, but he at least belongs in this league. Seems like every pass Palko threw was a bubble screen.

It pretty much was. Shocking that our line would look better as we are throwing bubble screens every play.

I agree 100% that Orton isn't the answer. But, just like Gaither, he is the best at his position on this team, so he should have been on the field.

[doomy3]

Link?
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It was in his press conference I believe, so I don't have a link. I listened to it on the radio.

[Chiefnj2]

Haley has already said that Orton was coming in for that specific play (flea flicker) and Palko was coming back in. And even if the Palko era was over, why the **** did he even start that game in the first place?

The plan was to sub Orton in on every pass expected to go 5 yards or more downfield.

[Frosty]

Left

Thanks.

I thought the issue with Gaither is that he didn't want to play RT (I know he said he would right after he was picked up but that doesn't mean his heart was in it)? If may explain why he couldn't replace BR and the Chiefs finally go fed up with him. He may be serviceable in a pinch at LT but he isn't better than Albert (not that he showed, anyway).

[Pasta Little Brioni]

It pretty much was. Shocking that our line would look better as we are throwing bubble screens every play.

I agree 100% that Orton isn't the answer. But, just like Gaither, he is the best at his position on this team, so he should have been on the field.

This offense is like Herm ball on speed. Especially when they do the hurry up, throw bubble screen, then up the center's ass LJ style bonanza.

[doomy3]

Haley was just blowing smoke to protect Palko. He isn't going to throw him under the bus to media. It was pretty clear they were getting Orton ready to go. He got 40% of the snaps in practice this past week after just arriving.

Ah yes, if there's one thing Haley makes it a point to do, it is massage the egos of his players and build their confidence. LMAO

[doomy3]

The plan was to sub Orton in on every pass expected to go 5 yards or more downfield.

So, we'd only be playing the best QB on our roster for 5 or fewer plays a game regardless.

[-King-]

If Haley said that the Orton thing was a one play deal, then I agree with chiefscountry, he was lying to protect Palko.

“We had a little plan, in addition to having him ready to play, if needed,” head coach Todd Haley said. “We weren’t making a quarterback change, so to speak. I want to strategically be careful about what I say. But I felt good about both guys being prepared to play and get the job done.”

Why else would he say that he has to be careful about what he says other than to protect Palko?
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[ChiefsCountry]

Ah yes, if there's one thing Haley makes it a point to do, it is massage the egos of his players and build their confidence. LMAO

What player has he ever called out in a press conference?

[ChiefsCountry]

If Haley said that the Orton thing was a one play deal, then I agree with chiefscountry, he was lying to protect Palko.



Why else would he say that he has to be careful about what he says other than to protect Palko?
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Exactly. Especially since we ended up winning.

[-King-]

Ah yes, if there's one thing Haley makes it a point to do, it is massage the egos of his players and build their confidence. LMAO

Haley may be a hard ass but he doesn't throw players under the bus.
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[BoneKrusher]

So, we'd only be playing the best QB on our roster for 5 or fewer plays a game regardless.

that's what it sounds like to me.

that Todd Haley is so smart when it comes to offense.

[-King-]

that's what it sounds like to me.

that Todd Haley is so smart when it comes to offense.

Dude, you think we shouldn't get a qb until we get a RT. You're not really in a position to be calling people out
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[doomy3]

What player has he ever called out in a press conference?

Haley may be a hard ass but he doesn't throw players under the bus.
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You're right, he doesn't make a habit of throwing guys under the bus in press conferences. But, he has several times just not commented on the situation at all. I don't think he has ever come out and lied in a press conference to protect a player or anything. His comments on Cassel, etc, where he basically has just not commented aren't uncommon.

[BoneKrusher]

Dude, you think we shouldn't get a qb until we get a RT. You're not really in a position to be calling people out
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say what, i didn't call anyone out?

did you mean my remarks about Haley?

i just basically said he's the biggest piece of shit on this team, other than QB and RT.

[gblowfish]

Gaither and Richardson both suck. No great loss cutting Gaither. And Richardson probably won't be a Chief next year.

[FAX]

ROFL You've got to be shitting me. You guys are nuts getting bent out of shape over his play last night.

The Sandy Eggo City Council has just voted and given the entire city (plus a dinky little island that kinda shows up occasionally at low tide) to Gaither in recognition of his performance.

FAX

[WhiteWhale]

Wait do you want to get an RT before getting a QB or do you want to prioritize getting a qb?

You can't have it both ways.
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Yeah.

We certainly can't do both. Acquiring a QB and a tackle to protect your QB is impossible to do in one off-season.

What is with this ****ing site? Why is everything an exclusive decision?

You guys are stupid if you think franchise QB's don't need protection. If I have a franchise QB I don't want him taking 20 hits per game and get injured because we have the worst OT in the entire NFL.

Healthy franchise QB > Franchise QB on IR

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Yeah.

We certainly can't do both. Acquiring a QB and a tackle to protect your QB is impossible to do in one off-season.

What is with this ****ing site? Why is everything an exclusive decision?

You guys are stupid if you think franchise QB's don't need protection. If I have a franchise QB I don't want him taking 20 hits per game and get injured because we have the worst OT in the entire NFL.

Healthy franchise QB > Franchise QB on IR

"Franchise QB's" get rid of the ball quick and don't take 20 hits per game genius. Richardson is crap, but our QB's make the line look worse than it actually is.

[WhiteWhale]

"Franchise QB's" get rid of the ball quick and don't take 20 hits per game genius. Richardson is crap, but our QB's make the line look worse than it actually is.

I watched the packers last season.

Rogers got his face bashed in and overcame it. HE took loads of hits.

I've seen Montana get sacked 7 times in a half.

Shut up.

Good QB's take hits too. They're not immune. Not all guys move and throw quick like Drew Brees and not all are damn near immune to injury like Favre and Big ben. You don't let 300 pound men have a free shot at your most important player as often as possible just to prove how Barry Richardson is good enough. He's a liability and that's ESPECIALLY true if the QB is of value to the team.

[BoneKrusher]

You don't let 300 pound men have a free shot at your most important player as often as possible just to prove how Barry Richardson is good enough. He's a liability and that's ESPECIALLY true if the QB is of value to the team.


exactly.

that's why i said "before we get a real QB" the RT spot needs to be upgraded.

with Cassel and Palko, A RT isn't that big of a deal, i mean if he would miss a block and get Palko knocked out, i'd send him a Thank You card because i wanna see how Stanzi plays before the season is over.

[Nightfyre]

exactly.

that's why i said "before we get a real QB" the RT spot needs to be upgraded.

with Cassel and Palko, A RT isn't that big of a deal, i mean if he would miss a block and get Palko knocked out, i'd send him a Thank You card because i wanna see how Stanzi plays before the season is over.

Doesn't mean you shouldn't wait till you have your all-star offensive line before you get your QB. The QB has a highly variable development cycle and a high bust rate. The QB also has the largest impact of any position on the field. If you get the chance to take a franchise QB, you don't skip it because your RT is inadequate.

[RealSNR]

exactly.

that's why i said "before we get a real QB" the RT spot needs to be upgraded.

with Cassel and Palko, A RT isn't that big of a deal, i mean if he would miss a block and get Palko knocked out, i'd send him a Thank You card because i wanna see how Stanzi plays before the season is over.And what if we don't get a brand new shiny RT? What if we just kind of draft around the edges and draft another Barry Richardson in the 6th round?

Stafford was drafted without the team worrying about fixing the line. The line he played under was atrocious. And even this year when he's been playing at a very high level. That's the same fucking line he had 3 years ago!

Yes, I want both as well, but it's foolish and idiotic to think that a franchise guy can't work with the talent we already have on the offensive line if he has to. It happens all the fucking time.

[go bo]

And what if we don't get a brand new shiny RT? What if we just kind of draft around the edges and draft another Barry Richardson in the 6th round?

Stafford was drafted without the team worrying about fixing the line. The line he played under was atrocious. And even this year when he's been playing at a very high level. That's the same fucking line he had 3 years ago!

Yes, I want both as well, but it's foolish and idiotic to think that a franchise guy can't work with the talent we already have on the offensive line if he has to. It happens all the fucking time.

link? :p

[BoneKrusher]

Stafford was drafted without the team worrying about fixing the line. The line he played under was atrocious. And even this year when he's been playing at a very high level. That's the same ****ing line he had 3 years ago!




how many games has he missed because of injury?

[RealSNR]

how many games has he missed because of injury?Irrelevant. He's a soft bitch Brokie Croyle with a glass vagina. The Chiefs 2003 offensive line wouldn't be able to keep him injury-free

[BoneKrusher]

Irrelevant. He's a soft bitch Brokie Croyle with a glass vagina. The Chiefs 2003 offensive line wouldn't be able to keep him injury-free


i disagree
during his rookie season and his second season alone he missed 19 games due to poor OLine play
why have a top 5 pick wasted on a QB when he has to ride the pine because the OLine sucks and cant protect him..

[Nightfyre]

Who needs an offensive line when you have seven zebras to protect you?

[RealSNR]

i disagree
during his rookie season and his second season alone he missed 19 games due to poor OLine play
why have a top 5 pick wasted on a QB when he has to ride the pine because the OLine sucks and cant protect him..
Link?

[RealSNR]

i disagree
during his rookie season and his second season alone he missed 19 games due to poor OLine play
why have a top 5 pick wasted on a QB when he has to ride the pine because the OLine sucks and cant protect him..Also, you're forgetting the fact that he's playing with the EXACT same offensive line he had when he was a rookie.

[BoneKrusher]

Link?

www.causeisaidso