****The Official Chiefs vs. Broncos Game thread****

[QuikSsurfer]

No HOLDING ON DJ??!?!?

[RINGLEADER]

I wouldn't pass it again if I was Denver. We can't stop the run.

[scho63]

Denver is starting to open up some big holes....YIKES

[Mr. Laz]

dam defense has got to do better at stopping the run

[HemiEd]

holding on Walton

[Bob Dole]

Apparently it's now legal to hold DJ, too.

[KevB]

Belcher getting cleanly blocked on all these running plays. Dude has to get off a block.

[ThaVirus]

Browns take a 3-0 lead over Big Ben and the Steelers, 6 minutes to go, 2nd quarter.

Relevance?

[notorious]

I see at holding is now legal.

[Ming the Merciless]

jesus tebow is horrible

[Cornstock]

good job by flowers

[chiefs1111]

lol awful throw

[Coach]

Goodness gracious.... No pass rush at all....

[Munson]

Nice throw Timmy.

[HemiEd]

5 minutes and little pressure

[KevB]

Haha, Tyson Jackson wore a dead spot in a square yard in the grass on that "pass rush".

[cdcox]

CBS is reporting on a Cheating Scandal after the Broncos game. Coincidence? I think not.

[Dartgod]

QUACK!!!

[Hootie]

I just hate this fucking run offense...Hali has to hold containment and it just takes him totally out of the game...it's so fucking stupid

watching Denver play ruins the fun of watching the Chiefs defense play for me

[Coach]

He's short...

[notorious]

OB ROFL

[chiefs1111]

didn't get the first

[Hammock Parties]

CHEER FOR A PASS COMPLETED SHORT OF THE FIRST DOWN, BRONCOS FANS!

CHEER!

[Mr. Laz]

we have 2 linebackers spying Tebow?

[RINGLEADER]

No penalties you stupid special teams you

[-King-]

Wow. Blitzed Arenas from the right. Brave.

[Baby Lee]

That 60 Minutes promo, that guy who climps mountains w/o ropes is some ILL SHIT. Must watch.

[Cornstock]

5 minutes and little pressure

It was max protect tho there were only 2 guys running routes

[notorious]

Good return Arenas.

[Rain Man]

I like Arenas.

[tk13]

Relevance?

I don't think there is any... other than maybe helping Baltimore clinch their division. Steelers may be limping into the playoffs.

[DBOSHO]

Javier should get snaps at rb. Dude ALWAYS makes the first guy miss and it takes multiple defenders to bring him down.

[Hootie]

Wow. Blitzed Arenas from the right. Brave.

Arenas is probably our 2nd or 3rd best pass rusher...

[Mr. Laz]

I like Arenas.
yep ... scrappy guy who gives you all he has

[ThaVirus]

we have 2 linebackers spying Tebow?

Whatever works. Once he beats you with his legs, receivers will start coming open.

[Fritz88]

Boy does it feel good to shut up those Dunger fans.

[Cornstock]

That 60 Minutes promo, that guy who climps mountains w/o ropes is some ILL SHIT. Must watch.

agreed. probably going to be a let down somehow tho. "oh but he has a parachute..."

[Fritz88]

Elway will NOT allow for Teblow to be the starter for next season.

[Titty Meat]

CHEER FOR A PASS COMPLETED SHORT OF THE FIRST DOWN, BRONCOS FANS!

CHEER!

Bob's gonna have a lot of fun on the Orange Mane.

[teedubya]

DMC with another touch...

[QuikSsurfer]

why??

[WilliamTheIrish]

SeaFats hits a bout a 50 yarder to draw Oakland within 4. 14-10.

[Hammock Parties]

9 touches, jesus

[petegz28]

JFC, I wouldn't want our line to like, I don't know...BLOCK!?!?!

[tk13]

Well that had no chance.

[Fritz88]

WTF

[kstater]

Insert GoChiefs saying that's Dex's fault for not being elusive enough.

[chiefs1111]

that was ugly

[teedubya]

And another.... even though that one sucked

[Dartgod]

:facepalm:

[TimeForWasp]

Poor execution by the line.

[Cornstock]

poor playcall, let alone blocking

[BossChief]

Haha GoChiefs should be put on suicide watch

[-King-]

Arenas is probably our 2nd or 3rd best pass rusher...

Yeah, but I'd think they'd blitz him from the left so that Tebow doesn't see him and Arenas can strip the ball.

[RINGLEADER]

Capitulation

[Mr. Laz]

DMC barely touched that for a 5 yard loss ... does that count?

[dirk digler]

stupid play calling again. I hate Muir

[scho63]

That is a chicken shit call when you are out of the playoffs!

[Coach]

A fugging draw with Jones..... REALLY?

[MMXcalibur]

Bill Muir needs to be fired yesterday.

[Setsuna]

Dex almost lost that ball.

[petegz28]

Sure look like he touched it to me

[-King-]

That wasn't even close to being touched by the Donkeys.

[cdcox]

Wow, Midge almost fumbled that exchange.

[58kcfan89]

McCluster up the middle.
McCluster draw up the middle.
Jones draw from the shotgun.
Punt.

Fuck you, Muir.

[Cornstock]

Looked like Orton tried to nut McCluster with the ball on that draw

[WilliamTheIrish]

SD returns KO for a TD. 21-10 SD

[Fritz88]

Still waiting for the McBuster fumble.

[kcxiv]

That wasnt a bad call this late in the 2nd quarter. I dont mind it. Deep in our own territory.

[DaKCMan AP]

Sure look like he touched it to me

Doesn't matter. We touched it first.

[QuikSsurfer]

Dex almost lost that ball.

The handoff looked to be to his penis

[HoneyBadger]

Haha GoChiefs should be put on suicide watch

He can go hang out with brianfo...

[mikey23545]

Still waiting for the McBuster fumble.

Why don't you and GoFuck go 69 each other.

[mlyonsd]

SD 104 yard ko return.

[RINGLEADER]

That wasnt a bad call this late in the 2nd quarter. I dont mind it. Deep in our own territory.

Super conservative, but not bad.

[scho63]

McCluster up the middle.
McCluster draw up the middle.
Jones draw from the shotgun.
Punt.

**** you, Muir.

It's no surprise we have ZERO scores the whole season on opening drives, more 3 and outs than 95% of the other teams and we have so little 20+ yard plays.

Bill Muir lives in a world of 1955 run the ball 60 times

[RINGLEADER]

If we had a run defense this game would have been over at kickoff.

[kcxiv]

Super conservative, but not bad.

For the time left in the half, it wasnt, the previous plays before that sucked, that 3rd down play didnt.

[Mr. Laz]

that 1st down rush went RIGHT over the spot that Belcher lined up at but he took himself out of the play for some strange ass reason.

[cdcox]

DJ just moved our DL over, then ran away from that gap he created, which happened to be exactly where the ball carrier went.

[Hammock Parties]

He can go hang out with brianfo...

LMAO

[Setsuna]

Chargers up big.

[58kcfan89]

It's no surprise we have ZERO scores the whole season on opening drives, more 3 and outs than 95% of the other teams and we have so little 20+ yard plays.

Bill Muir lives in a world of 1955 run the ball 60 times

I know. I'm not a McCluster hater, I think he can be a decent weapon when he's in space (as seen earlier in this game). But running him up the middle between the tackles is incredibly stupid.

Fuck Muir.

[tk13]

Tennessee's in trouble. If Oakland or Denver lose, TEN is out and Cincy will make it even if they lose.

[GoHuge]

Muir's biggest problem as a play caller? Other teams adjust..........he just keeps running the same shit.

[Mr. Laz]

DJ just moved our DL over, then ran away from that gap he created, which happened to be exactly where the ball carrier went.i believe that was Belcher, not DJ

[tk13]

And Michael Turner just ripped off an 80+ yard TD. Gonna be 42-0 Falcons over TB about halfway through the 2nd quarter.

[cdcox]

that 1st down rush went RIGHT over the spot that Belcher lined up at but he took himself out of the play for some strange ass reason.

Thought it was DJ, but it could have been Belcher.

[Cornstock]

It's no surprise we have ZERO scores the whole season on opening drives, more 3 and outs than 95% of the other teams and we have so little 20+ yard plays.

Bill Muir lives in a world of 1955 run the ball 60 times

This is why you never hire a former OL coach as an offensive coordinator. They live in another world and they call plays considering what the OL likes/wants to do. Its easy for O lineman to run block and do draws so thats what they run.

Only exception to this is Andy Reed. He used to be an OL coach and as a HC he throws the shit out of the ball

[-King-]

Tamba Bay is getting anally raped.

[RINGLEADER]

It's no surprise we have ZERO scores the whole season on opening drives, more 3 and outs than 95% of the other teams and we have so little 20+ yard plays.

Bill Muir lives in a world of 1955 run the ball 60 times

Muir is a creative black hole, though racking up 435 yards in the last two games and closing in on another 400+ average in this game makes me believe some of the handcuffs were imposed by Haley.

[mlyonsd]

Atlanta like a 89 yard td run. 42-0. 6:49 left 2nd. JFC Fox, change the game.

[Bob Dole]

How about a fucking tackle? JFC

[RINGLEADER]

It's like he's strolling through our defense...

[-King-]

Jackson had good penetration but was getting held.

[Mr. Laz]

Muir's biggest problem as a play caller? Other teams adjust..........he just keeps running the same shit.
because Muir doesn't read the defense, he just randomly picks a play out of the book.

same with Haley


We need someone who actually reads,schemes and sets the defense up

[ChiTown]

Wow, that some seriously fucked up tackling.

[scho63]

Missed tackle by Gregg turns a 2 yard gain into a 12 yarder. Nice play fatso

[Hootie]

this offense is just pathetic

[RINGLEADER]

Wow...you'd think KC would have called that timeout. They don't pick this up and we get a free possession...

[-King-]

How can you enjoy watching this shit as a Broncos fan?

[BigMeatballDave]

D getting gashed

[Fritz88]

Matt Flynn QB

31-44, 480 yds
6 TDs, 1 INT


Just saying.

[HoneyBadger]

Matt Flynn QB

31-44, 480 yds
6 TDs, 1 INT


Just saying.

QBOTF?

[teedubya]

Come on, D... this sucks.

[RINGLEADER]

Should have been INT'd...

[Munson]

C'mon Carr! That should've been a pick.

[Coach]

GD it! Catch the damn thing!

[-King-]

The biggest flaw Carr has.

[Frazod]

DAMMIT HE SHOULD HAVE HAD THAT :cuss:

[QuikSsurfer]

Should had been picked... fuck

[Cornstock]

QBOTF?

Before today i would have never gave it a thought, but the dude looked goooooood today

[Mr. Laz]

gawd dam it!!!!


run defense sucks ass

[MMXcalibur]

This Bronco offense is such a joke.

[chiefs1111]

damn almost had it

[chiefs1111]

nowhere to run that time Timmy

[crispystl]

Matt Flynn QB

31-44, 480 yds
6 TDs, 1 INT


Just saying.

Bring him in now!

[RINGLEADER]

Denver fans are finally coming to realize their QB sucks.

[Hootie]

lmao I can't believe ANY Broncos fan could cheer for this

it's the definition of pathetic

[MMXcalibur]

Matt Flynn QB

31-44, 480 yds
6 TDs, 1 INT


Just saying.

Bring back Gunther? :spock:

[Reerun_KC]

KC is playing right into Denvers hand...
Keep it close and wait for the Chiefs to blow coverage...

[Marcellus]

Boo birds?

[notorious]

Nice pass.

[Mr. Laz]

KC is playing right into Denvers hand...
Keep it close and wait for the Chiefs to blow coverage...
Romeo Shottenheimer??

[Hootie]

don't worry Prater drills 60 yarders in his sleep

[cdcox]

Tebow!

[chiefs1111]

another awful throw

[ChiTown]

That is a shitty fucking offense.

[bobbything]

Good lord, Tebow is atrocious.

[Cornstock]

It'd be nice to get some pressure but with 9 guys in to block its tough

[Rain Man]

Tebow has completed 50 percent more passes this half than he did the whole last game.

[scho63]

Tebow throws WORSE than Palko! How is that possible? LOL

[Munson]

Haha! Gotta love the hometown fans booing their own team.

[Reerun_KC]

Romeo Shottenheimer??Just like last weekend...

[RINGLEADER]

Take a couple shots down the middle and see if we can give Succop a chance.

[-King-]

Tebows like, "WTF Jesus? I did my part! I throw it, you guide the ball to the receiver!"

[Hootie]

screen to McCluster time!!!!!!

(we'll probably take a knee)

[Setsuna]

I'm fucking bored.

[dirk digler]

hand off to Dex

[Reerun_KC]

Haha! Gotta love the hometown fans booing their own team.

Are they playing in KC?

[Reerun_KC]

screen time...

[Mile High Mania]

Denver played scared those last few plays and then wussed out of a FG...

Awesome game.

[KCUnited]

Tebow's hero derp is growing like Ernie McCrackin's combover.

[Hammock Parties]

No more touches for McCluster before the half plz

[Setsuna]

Get up Bowe!!

[QuikSsurfer]

great fuckin throw.. damn

[Cornstock]

Bowe looking good today is refreshing. slow to get up after that one tho

[Hootie]

this is what you can do when you have a REAL NFL QB...not Matt Cassel

say what you will about Orton...at least he can professionally play the position.

[RINGLEADER]

Bowe almost dropped another.....

[Coach]

Nice throw.

[Reerun_KC]

Nice pass by "stopgap"

[Hammock Parties]

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[Mr. Laz]

Bowe just racked himself by falling on the football


LMAO

[Munson]

Tebow's hero derp is growing like Ernie McCrackin's combover.

How dare you insult Big Ern's combover.ROFL

[Frazod]

Perfect spirals. Something the visiting quarterback does in Denver. LMAO

[chiefs1111]

awww damn that isn't good

[Marcellus]

Bowe almost dropped another.....

:spock::doh!:

[Estron]

Haha GoChiefs should be put on suicide watch

What kind of freakin' congenital idiot would feel suicidal because a mediocre player on a mediocre football team has a slightly more than mediocre day?

[Hammock Parties]

GAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Hootie]

they didn't set up that screen at all

[Cornstock]

hmmmm didnt see a screen coming there at all.......

[notorious]

There's the offense we know and hate.

[Reerun_KC]

They read that one perfectly...

[-King-]

WTF? I think Muir is making all these plays just so GoChiefs loses the bet ROFL

[RINGLEADER]

Stupid play call.

Go one more time down the middle for 25 or so.

[scho63]

THAT IS A STUPID, STUPID, STUPID, STUPID, STUPID, PLAY CALL!!! God damn you Muir!

[Coach]

GODDAMMIT MUIR!!!

[petegz28]

good pass, good defense

[-King-]

Damn. That pump fake wasted too much time.

[mlyonsd]

TB back in it. 42-7

[Coach]

Damn.... Good throw though....

[Cornstock]

Terrance "Hands of" Copper

[WilliamTheIrish]

SeaFats hits a 40 yarder. 21-13 Chargers.

[Reerun_KC]

Why are they talking about OL protection?

Sick of hearing about it...

[Hammock Parties]

GOD DAMMIT

ELEVEN FUCKING TOUCHES IN ONE HALF INCLUDING TWO GARBAGE TOUCHES BEFORE THE HALF


FUCK THIS SHIT

[Shogun]

mccluster lol

[-King-]

ROFL ROFL ROFL Almost all 15 in the first half.

[dirk digler]

lmao poor clay

[crispystl]

LMAO 2 cheap touches for Mccluster this is hilarious.

[mdchiefsfan]

Terrance "Hands of" Copper

LMAO

[Hootie]

how many touches does McCluster need for GoChiefs to lose all of his McCluster bets?

[Fritz88]

QBOTF?

Not really. Just gives other teams something to get so we could probably have a shot at someone in the draft.

[mdchiefsfan]

LMAO 2 cheap touches for Mccluster this is hilarious.

exactly what I was thinking

[dirk digler]

so what is the term of this bet?

[teedubya]

Nice 2 more touches by DMC... that was a successful drive.

GoChiefs... looks like you are gonna be vanquished.

[QuikSsurfer]

What's the line here with this GoChiefs bet? Just a sig bet?

[RINGLEADER]

Chiefs on track to have 430+ yards again...and less than 20 points again...

[HoneyBadger]

What kind of freakin' congenital idiot would feel suicidal because a mediocre player on a mediocre football team has a slightly more than mediocre day?

Shhhh, just be quiet...... Don't draw attention to yourself.

[petegz28]

Why are they talking about OL protection?

Sick of hearing about it...

I think they were talking about lack of protection..i.e. the DL shoving our OL into Orton's lap

[-King-]

What's the line here with this GoChiefs bet? Just a sig bet?

I don't even know. I'm just cheering for GoChiefs to lose. ROFL

[notorious]

Nice kick Succop.


Hit a routine kick and we are up 10-0 right now. :facepalm:

[tk13]

The Falcons just brought in their backup QB with 2 minutes to go in the first half.

[Mr. Laz]

Chiefs on track to have 430+ yards again...and less than 20 points again...
unless you have several turnovers that's on coaching imo

not knowing what to call, when to be aggressive etc

[notorious]

Chiefs on track to have 430+ yards again...and less than 20 points again...

Yep.

[Hammock Parties]

What's the line here with this GoChiefs bet? Just a sig bet?

Avatar bet.

I already lost my sig to DBOSHO...in another McCluster bet.

Ya'll gonna own my shit all offseason.


I just ask that someone take the Cassel AIDS tree and use it.

[petegz28]

Not really. Just gives other teams something to get so we could probably have a shot at someone in the draft.

We aren't going to have a shot at anyone decent in the draft without trading away the kitchen sink. Cleveland, Mini, Miami and I know I am forgeting another one are all poised to take QB's.

[crispystl]

Avatar bet.

How long?

[PunkinDrublic]

Orton is a good Quarterback when he has great receivers. Denver had a great offense for a while when they had Brandon Marshall. The Donks current receivers are shit.

[Hammock Parties]

How long?

The whole fucking offseason. :(

[crispystl]

Orton is a good Quarterback when he has great receivers. Denver had a great offense for a while when they had Brandon Marshall. The Donks current QB is shit.

Fixed your post

[Hootie]

LMAO

Cleveland just iced Pitt's kicker...

he was attempting a 19 yard field goal before the half

...

[crispystl]

The whole ****ing offseason. :(

Damn

[HoneyBadger]

We aren't going to have a shot at anyone decent in the draft without trading away the kitchen sink. Cleveland, Mini, Miami and I know I am forgeting another one are all poised to take QB's.

I don't think Miami or Minnesota will take a QB. They have decent ones already and have too many other holes .

[QuikSsurfer]

Avatar bet.

I already lost my sig to DBOSHO...in another McCluster bet.

Ya'll gonna own my shit all offseason.


I just ask that someone take the Cassel AIDS tree and use it.

I will help you bear this burden..

http://eclecticcommons.telldat.net/files/2011/09/Gandalf_and_frodo1.jpg

[Hootie]

The whole ****ing offseason. :(

and what was our bet for next season when McCluster is on the roster?

[tk13]

Baltimore leads Cincy 17-3 at half. Cincy still might back into a playoff spot though. Pittsburgh needs to just sit Roethlisberger and rest him. 6-3 Browns at halftime. Steelers haven't been the same since Ben got hurt.

[Reerun_KC]

The whole ****ing offseason. :(

YOU will Welch.... Its what you are known for...

[notorious]

OMG

A little part of Whitlock just died. Jeff George's record for yards in a season just got broken by Matt Ryan.

[dirk digler]

Avatar bet.

I already lost my sig to DBOSHO...in another McCluster bet.

Ya'll gonna own my shit all offseason.


I just ask that someone take the Cassel AIDS tree and use it.

meh who cares then.

[petegz28]

I don't think Miami or Minnesota will take a QB. They have decent ones already and have too many other holes .

Still leaves Cleveland and TB(?). I don;t wan to draft a QB just for the sake of drafting a QB. It has to be a good QB.

[notorious]

Is the Avatar chosen yet?

[Mr. Laz]

Orton is a good Quarterback when he has great receivers. Denver had a great offense for a while when they had Brandon Marshall. The Donks current receivers are shit.I think i'm ok with keeping Orton short term.

As long as we get a real offensive coordinator and really look for a QBotF.


If you give Orton weapons and time, he can win.

Orton > Cassel

[Coach]

OMG

A little part of Whitlock just died. Jeff George's record for yards in a season just got broken by Matt Ryan.

Good. The less Jeff George, the better.

[tk13]

Sad part about this... if Succop can make that final FG last week, we're one half away from a division title and a playoff game against a crippled QB next week.

[Coach]

I think i'm ok with keeping Orton short term.

As long as we get a real offensive coordinator and really look for a QBotF.


If you give Orton weapons and time, he can win.

Orton > Cassel

100% agreed. Pioli really need to draft a QB in the 1st round and kick Cassel aside.

[texaschiefsfan]

Knowing what we know now, what was the worst loss of the season?

[crispystl]

I will help you bear this burden..

http://eclecticcommons.telldat.net/files/2011/09/Gandalf_and_frodo1.jpg

Yeah that avatar is way too good to go to waste!

[Hootie]

Sad part about this... if Succop can make that final FG last week, we're one half away from a division title and a playoff game against a crippled QB next week.

why'd you have to bring it back up!?

I still blame Succop. I knew the asshole wouldn't make it...so overrated. Middle of the road kicker in a year where kickers owned the NFL.

[Hootie]

Knowing what we know now, what was the worst loss of the season?

it happened on Christmas Eve, clearly

[kcpasco]

Flynn anyone? He is a free agent

[petegz28]

Knowing what we know now, what was the worst loss of the season?

Miami or Pittsburgh or the 1st Denver game or the 2nd Oakland game.

[Hootie]

Flynn anyone? He is a free agent

not if he costs Cassel money (he will)

rather stay with Orton and draft competition

[doomy3]

Knowing what we know now, what was the worst loss of the season?

Last week.

[FloridaMan88]

Fat Scott's decision to stick with Barry Richardson is the gift that keeps on giving every game.

A typical first half for Barry... penalty, blown assignment on a run blitz leading to a big loss.

[WilliamTheIrish]

51 yd FG from Novak.

SD 24-13 over Oakland.

[notorious]

JFC, GB plays a QB for ONE GAME and everyone is ready to go Scott Mitchell on him.

Green Bay has taken over San Fran's job in the 90's.

[Hootie]

looking back at it, in hindsight...we were a playoff team if Haley were fired and Orton took over sooner...

Haley really held this team back with his arrogance. I liked him, too. I was wrong. Haley was an awful coach...he makes Romeo look like a good coach and I'm not even sold on that.

[petegz28]

Fat Scott's decision to stick with Barry Richardson is the gift that keeps on giving every game.

A typical first half for Barry... penalty, blown assignment on a run blitz leading to a big loss.

Him, Weignman and Lilja better not be starters next year. I can maybe live with Lilja if you have a real C next to him.

[Cornstock]

Flynn anyone? He is a free agent

Go out and get him. its not like we dont have all the cap room in the world. Poor choice by Green Bay to show him off that much this week, they could have kept him as a great backup

[HoneyBadger]

Still leaves Cleveland and TB(?). I don;t wan to draft a QB just for the sake of drafting a QB. It has to be a good QB.

You think TB will give up on Freeman and Cleveland will give up on McCoy so soon? I don't.

[ArrowheadMagic]

Flynn anyone? He is a free agent

Since we wont trade up for a QB, yes. Outside Luck, has more upside than the other QB's in the draft.

[Lzen]

Still leaves Cleveland and TB(?). I don;t wan to draft a QB just for the sake of drafting a QB. It has to be a good QB.

TB? Didn't they just draft Freeman in the 1st round a couple years ago?

[Titty Meat]

When will we know if Cassel will be back or not? March?

[Mile High Mania]

Denver is playing like crap... neither team looks that great to be honest.

Denver needs to figure it out in the 2nd half... if OAK loses, then Denver advances... would be great to not advance on the heels of 3 straight losses.

[notorious]

We are looking at an 8-8 division winner?

:facepalm:

Congrats Denver, for winning the 2nd shittiest division in history.

[tk13]

Matt Cassel once had back to back 400 yard games as a Patriot. I like Flynn but is anyone surprised he had a career day against Gunther?

[Hootie]

JFC, GB plays a QB for ONE GAME and everyone is ready to go Scott Mitchell on him.

Green Bay has taken over San Fran's job in the 90's.

TRUE but...

if you watched the game, Flynn looked great. He also looked great two years ago in his one game against the Patriots.

Small sample size, but he definitely will get plenty of suitors...

If Kolb gets as much money as he did, Flynn will get even more. I'd rather just keep Orton and draft a prospect then give Flynn $30M guaranteed.

[PunkinDrublic]

I think i'm ok with keeping Orton short term.

As long as we get a real offensive coordinator and really look for a QBotF.


If you give Orton weapons and time, he can win.

Orton > Cassel

When we get Moeaki and Charles back our offense will become dangerous again. Let Orton get more comfortable with this offense for the next couple of years and groom someone behind him.

[petegz28]

TB? Didn't they just draft Freeman in the 1st round a couple years ago?

Yeah, how's that working? I'm just saying those are the teams we are going to have to trade with, regardless.

[chefsos]

Flynn anyone? He is a free agentOh wow, that dude just made a shithouse full of money today.

[-King-]

why'd you have to bring it back up!?

I still blame Succop. I knew the asshole wouldn't make it...so overrated. Middle of the road kicker in a year where kickers owned the NFL.

Kind of hard to kick long field goals when the line isn't blocking

[GloryDayz]

Have a mentioned that I hate Denver?

[Hootie]

Go out and get him. its not like we dont have all the cap room in the world. Poor choice by Green Bay to show him off that much this week, they could have kept him as a great backup

Flynn was a starting QB prospect either way...he wasn't going to stick around as a backup...not even before today.

Like I said in the other thread...if you posed the question on this board as to who everyone would rather have...

Cassel, Orton or Flynn...before week 1 of this season...90% of us would have answered Flynn.

[notorious]

Mile High Mania


Do you want Tebow long term, or would you rather lose the division and move forward toward the future?

[Mr. Laz]

When will we know if Cassel will be back or not? March?
I think we know before then.

If we don't sign Orton to a new contract before FA starts then Cassel is coming back.

[scho63]

Mcgahee just getting chunk yardage

[petegz28]

nice hold on Hali....

[Cornstock]

Matt Cassel once had back to back 400 yard games as a Patriot. I like Flynn but is anyone surprised he had a career day against Gunther?

Not really, but they handed it to us earlier this year. The biggest difference between Flynn and Cassel is we wouldnt need to trade anything to get him. Just pay more than the next team

[Baby Lee]

Even the announcers are starting to notice holds. ROFL ROFL

[Lzen]

Is there another offensive line in the NFL that holds more than Denver? :cuss: