Matt Cassel=Best chance at getting a good QB

[petegz28]

Ok, so, all of us don't want Cassel. Well, most of us. However all of us want the Chiefs to draft the "QBoTF". We know that isn't going to happen this year. And the chances of it happening in 2013 will depend on how we do next season. We go 8-8 or better and forget it. We go 4-12 and we got a shot. Unless Pioli for some reason pulls a 180 and actually trades up, which we all know won't happen.

Therefore if the argument at QB now is between Cassel and Orton then Cassel surely gives us the best shot at a shitty season. That being said you might just start Stanzi and get ready for the draft.

It sucks the situation we are in.

[DeezNutz]

http://www.dailyrandomfacts.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/Random-Facts-Horse-fact.jpg

[Dr. Johnny Fever]

ok

[milkman]

http://www.dailyrandomfacts.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/Random-Facts-Horse-fact.jpg

What the hell does John Elway have to do with any of this?

[jd1020]

Yup. I was right. This was a waste of 27.8 seconds.

[petegz28]

What the hell does John Elway have to do with any of this?

Maybe he thinks we should trade for Tebow and let him start next year?

[Okie_Apparition]

A paper mache Matt Castle filled with CP vagina sand

[Ming the Merciless]

Ok, so, all of us don't want Cassel. Well, most of us. However all of us want the Chiefs to draft the "QBoTF". We know that isn't going to happen this year. And the chances of it happening in 2013 will depend on how we do next season. We go 8-8 or better and forget it. We go 4-12 and we got a shot. Unless Pioli for some reason pulls a 180 and actually trades up, which we all know won't happen.

Therefore if the argument at QB now is between Cassel and Orton then Cassel surely gives us the best shot at a shitty season. That being said you might just start Stanzi and get ready for the draft.

It sucks the situation we are in.

oh cool

already the 'lets tank the season' threads are starting and we haven't even gotten tio the draft


my god what a bunch of fags

[petegz28]

oh cool

already the 'lets tank the season' threads are starting and we haven't even gotten tio the draft


my god what a bunch of pillowbiters

Do you actually think we are going to get a QB that is worth a shit this draft? We surely aren't going to get one that can start next season. Not unless we just fall under a lucky star somehow.

[Ming the Merciless]

just fuck off. honestly...

We can make the playoffs next season. We might even be FAVORITES to win the division....

You want to tank the season??

You should switch sports to tiddly winks and fucking just admit youre a cock sucker.

[RealSNR]

How about let's see if Crennel/Pioli grow any balls and draft us a QB?

And if that happens, maybe they'll get rid of Cassel.

And if that doesn't happen, maybe they'll start Stanzi.

And if NONE of these happen, THEN you can talk about tanking.

[petegz28]

just **** off. honestly...

We can make the playoffs next season. We might even be FAVORITES to win the division....

You want to tank the season??

You should switch sports to tiddly winks and ****ing just admit youre a cock sucker.

Do I want to tank the season? No. I am not one to root for us to lose. That being said I was just posing the argument that as much as people don't want Cassel he is probably the best answer to a new QB draft wise in comparison to Orton.


Now go watch your internet porn and let the adults talk.

[RealSNR]

Anybody know what Jim Zorn calls his playbook?

...

Zornography

[DeezNutz]

Do I want to tank the season? No. I am not one to root for us to lose. That being said I was just posing the argument that as much as people don't want Cassel he is probably the best answer to a new QB draft wise in comparison to Orton.


Now go watch your internet porn and let the adults talk.

The problem is that we've wasted three years with Cassel to this point, with very little hope that we'll do what's necessary to try to draft an elite QB. Thus, it's pissing into the wind to think that year four will be the magical breaking point.

The sad truth is that Pioli is dumb as fuck.

[Ming the Merciless]

Do I want to tank the season? No. I am not one to root for us to lose. That being said I was just posing the argument that as much as people don't want Cassel he is probably the best answer to a new QB draft wise in comparison to Orton.


Now go watch your internet porn and let the adults talk.

You want to be dishonest? Fine by me....

You might fool yourself but you are obviously a fucking moron, so it isnt that hard.

To the rest of us reading your insane post, it is clear you'll be rooting for the chiefs to lose in order to get a better draft pick in April 2013.

Clueless fucking asshat

[Mr_Tomahawk]

Worst thread of the day!

Congrats!

Sent from my MB612 using Tapatalk

[the Talking Can]

just **** off. honestly...

We can make the playoffs next season. We might even be FAVORITES to win the division....

You want to tank the season??

You should switch sports to tiddly winks and ****ing just admit youre a cock sucker.

you are the worst true fan in sports history....i bet your retinas have dried cassel semen on them

[Bugeater]

Gotta disagree. If we want to tank a season, Tyler Palko is the man for the job.

[the Talking Can]

we should have tanked this season...but we managed to even fuck that up...


but hey we beat Chicago and that apparently matters to a fucking retard like pawnsmoker....

no RG3, but we beat Chicago so it's all ok....

[MMXcalibur]

I love talking about "tanking" a season before we are even done with the previous season's Wildcard Round.

CHIEFS FEVER. CATCH IT!

[Ming the Merciless]

it isn't surprising that the biggest fucking douchebag idiot on this site not only wanted to tank last season, but wants to tank NEXT season before we have even drafted....

[FloridaMan88]

So basically, PeteJIZZ, you are advocating for the Chiefs to go with Cassel next season as a Suck for Luck-type strategy, correct? Basically losing to get a high draft pick to draft a franchise QB.

Funny how you were AGAINST the Suck for Luck campaign this season.

Your words in a thread I started earlier during the season titled "Is the Anti-Suck for Luck Crowd Happy Now?

Link: http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost.php?p=8088912&postcount=43

Yes, I am happy. No I am not happy with the shit performance we saw yesterday. But I cannot root for my team to lose "on purpose" for the sake of drafting one person we "hope" would be the answer.

So to recap, you PeteJIZZ, being the little homer bitch that you are, rallied AGAINST the Suck for Luck campaign this season and now you want the Chiefs to waste another season with Cassel in the hopes of drafting a franchise QB in 2013.

Defend yourself, dumbshit.

[BIG_DADDY]

Lucks gone dude, we already blew it.

[Epic Fail 007]

Do you actually think we are going to get a QB that is worth a shit this draft? We surely aren't going to get one that can start next season. Not unless we just fall under a lucky star somehow.

Dummy even if we got a QB ,for most part teams that start a rookie at qb hardly ever win.Your post is stupid.Hell Andrew luck will be lucky to win 6 games next year.

[FloridaMan88]

Lucks gone dude, we already blew it.

Luck has already been drafted? I didn't realize it was April already.

The alleged reports about the Colts drafting Luck coming out in JANUARY mean jackshit.

The Chiefs still have an opportunity to put together a blockbuster trade package to trade up for Luck or RGIII.

Will it require a Herschel Walker/Ricky Williams type bounty to move up? Probably. But a franchise QB is the most valuable commodity in all of sports. You do whatever it takes to land one.

[Smed1065]

Yes we need a qb, NO NOT GOING TO HAPPEN BEFORE 2012 DEADLINE... Damn Aztecs.

[BIG_DADDY]

Luck has already been drafted? I didn't realize it was April already.

The alleged reports about the Colts drafting Luck coming out in JANUARY mean jackshit.

The Chiefs still have an opportunity to put together a blockbuster trade package to trade up for Luck or RGIII.

Will it require a Herschel Walker/Ricky Williams type bounty to move up? Probably. But a franchise QB is the most valuable commodity in all of sports. You do whatever it takes to land one.

LMAO, I was addressing the thread and the whole idea of failing to get a QBOTF, not you.

[Epic Fail 007]

Now I understand why you post stupid shit.Your a world of warcraft geek explains alot about you.

[Cornstock]

I believe it is a commonly held fact on the CP that we cannot win the Superbowl with any of the quarterbacks currently on the roster. The one possible exception may be if Stanzi develops into a Brady-type, but even the biggest Stanzi homers will admit that he will not be ready for at least 2 years.

If we want to win a Superbowl we NEED a quarterback that can take us there. The question is how can we get one of those? A) The Draft B)Free Agency

A)The Draft. We are not going to be bad enough in the foreseeable future to take a premier QB out of the draft, so the only option here is to trade up if we go this route.
B)Free Agency. There is no one out there who is on the free agent/trade market. The exception to this is if the Colts are willing to shop Manning after taking Luck (ya right).

Only viable option here is to move up cause we ain't gonna suck that bad and we ain't gonna trade for a proven veteran or get a guy in free agency who can take us there. As much as I hate the idea of a Ricky Williams type trade for Luck I feel its the best route. I hate the idea of sucking on purpose way worse. It is only the mind of a truefan that would think this crap up.

[RealSNR]

I believe it is a commonly held fact on the CP that we cannot win the Superbowl with any of the quarterbacks currently on the roster. The one possible exception may be if Stanzi develops into a Brady-type, but even the biggest Stanzi homers will admit that he will not be ready for at least 2 years.
Lolwut

If Stanzi's not ready next year, then flush him. Most Stanzi fans want to see him play just so he gets some experience. Sitting on the bench for two more seasons isn't going to make him any more ready.

[Cornstock]

Lolwut

If Stanzi's not ready next year, then flush him. Most Stanzi fans want to see him play just so he gets some experience. Sitting on the bench for two more seasons isn't going to make him any more ready.

I'll clarify. He needs to be playing next year but he won't be able to put a team on his shoulders next year and carry them to the Superbowl next year. I think that's too much to ask, we can all agree.

[RealSNR]

I believe it is a commonly held fact on the CP that we cannot win the Superbowl with any of the quarterbacks currently on the roster. The one possible exception may be if Stanzi develops into a Brady-type, but even the biggest Stanzi homers will admit that he will not be ready for at least 2 years.

If we want to win a Superbowl we NEED a quarterback that can take us there. The question is how can we get one of those? A) The Draft B)Free Agency

A)The Draft. We are not going to be bad enough in the foreseeable future to take a premier QB out of the draft, so the only option here is to trade up if we go this route.
B)Free Agency. There is no one out there who is on the free agent/trade market. The exception to this is if the Colts are willing to shop Manning after taking Luck (ya right).

Only viable option here is to move up cause we ain't gonna suck that bad and we ain't gonna trade for a proven veteran or get a guy in free agency who can take us there. As much as I hate the idea of a Ricky Williams type trade for Luck I feel its the best route. I hate the idea of sucking on purpose way worse. It is only the mind of a truefan that would think this crap up.OMG and how did I miss this? Do you mean that the mind of a true fan would only be able to construct what we're in now? Or do you mean that only a true fan would want us to suck on purpose?

If it's the second thing, then rape.

[RealSNR]

I'll clarify. He needs to be playing next year but he won't be able to put a team on his shoulders next year and carry them to the Superbowl next year. I think that's too much to ask, we can all agree.I can see that.

Oh, and TJ Yates, his 5th round brother, has just won a playoff game.

If Stanzi started next year and just won us a playoff game, I'd be fine with that. Shit, anything to get out of this fucking mire and waste and fuckery.

[Cornstock]

OMG and how did I miss this? Do you mean that the mind of a true fan would only be able to construct what we're in now? Or do you mean that only a true fan would want us to suck on purpose?

If it's the second thing, then rape.

I meant that only the mind of a truefan would want a team to throw away a season in January even before the draft.

[Cornstock]

I can see that.

Oh, and TJ Yates, his 5th round brother, has just won a playoff game.

If Stanzi started next year and just won us a playoff game, I'd be fine with that. Shit, anything to get out of this ****ing mire and waste and ****ery.

Much props to Yates, the dude is a gamer. Stanzi needs to hold serve with that production next year, but I won't be holding my breathe on him taking us to the 'ship.

[Bugeater]

I meant that only the mind of a truefan would want a team to throw away a season in January even before the draft.
Uh, no. Tanking a season for a high pick is a Drafturbator mentality. True Fans want Kyle Orton.

Get your shit straight, n00b.

[FloridaMan88]

The dumbshit PeteJIZZ railed against Suck for Luck during the season and now suddenly wants a Suck for Luck-type campaign in 2012.

PeteJIZZ= A Gutless hypocritical FRAUD

[Cornstock]

Uh, no. Tanking a season for a high pick is a Drafturbator mentality. True Fans want Kyle Orton.

Get your shit straight, n00b.

Haha ok my bad. Regardless of Drafturbator or Truefan-ness its freaking retarded to throw away a season like that. Completely destroys the sanctity of the game.

[MMXcalibur]

Much props to Yates, the dude is a gamer. Stanzi needs to hold serve with that production next year, but I won't be holding my breathe on him taking us to the 'ship.

...but just like Stanzi, Yates wasn't "ready" after being thrown in the fire after Schaub and Leinart went down.

I don't understand! HE WASN'T "READY"! EVERY QUARTERBACK NEEDS TO BE "READY"!

QUARTERBACK

READY

PLAYOFF WIN

CAN'T PROCESS...ERROR............ERROR..................ERROR!!!!

[Epic Fail 007]

Who says Stanzi is not ready?I mean Haley was not going to play him no matter what even if he was good.Hes was to busy sabtoging the season.

[Cornstock]

...but just like Stanzi, Yates wasn't "ready" after being thrown in the fire after Schaub and Leinart went down.

I don't understand! HE WASN'T "READY"! EVERY QUARTERBACK NEEDS TO BE "READY"!

QUARTERBACK

READY

PLAYOFF WIN

CAN'T PROCESS...ERROR............ERROR..................ERROR!!!!

Hell I thought Stanzi could've started the day Cassel went down. These guys are professionals they have to be "ready" when called upon, at a moments notice. If you're not ready you won't be around long.

But if you mean ready as in capable of leading a team to the Superbowl? Stanzi's not ready in that sense and Yates isn't either. If Yates/Texans win the 'ship this year I'll...do something crazy/outrageous/embarassing to show my idiocy.

[Cornstock]

Who says Stanzi is not ready?I mean Haley was not going to play him no matter what even if he was good.Hes was to busy sabtoging the season.

Coaches were apparently the only ones. Gauging from CP's response the whole planet thought he could've stepped in, if for nothing else than to see if he was worth anything.

[Rasputin]

Coaches were apparently the only ones. Gauging from CP's response the whole planet thought he could've stepped in, if for nothing else than to see if he was worth anything.

They mostly just didn't let him practice with the first stringers or much with the second team. Even from start of TC they were all gung ho on making Cassel the QB period. The last preseason game they played Cassel into the fourth quarter. What team does that in the final game of preseason with the starting QB? IMO, it was total neglect to feed Stanzi practice time and thus not preparing him for a regular season game. Had really nothing to do with his tallent or skill level. They were just hell bent on Cassel and then Haley just had to play Palko for what ever God aweful reason only he knows. He thought Palko had veteran quality & knowledge of the game do to his work ethic or just had imposing pictures of them from Arizona days.

[evolve27]

We aren't starting Stanzi anytime soon if Cassel and Orton are here. No chances of drafting a QB in the first 3 rounds just makes me fucking depressed to even be a Chiefs fan. Fuck Pioli when we draft a 6th round QB from who gives a shit...

[NJChiefsFan]

We aren't starting Stanzi anytime soon if Cassel and Orton are here. No chances of drafting a QB in the first 3 rounds just makes me ****ing depressed to even be a Chiefs fan. **** Pioli when we draft a 6th round QB from who gives a shit...

Well if it makes you feel better Orton probably will go to a team that is giving him the starting job if we keep Cassel so we will probably just have Cassel.

[morphius]

Well if it makes you feel better Orton probably will go to a team that is giving him the starting job if we keep Cassel so we will probably just have Cassel.
People keep saying that, but I didn't see much from him that would make me think another team is just dying to get their hands on him.

[htismaqe]

Logic lesson:

Matt Cassel = 30 years old
Matt Cassel = peaked
Matt Cassel ≠ good QB

Therefore, Cassel cannot = best chance at good QB because
Cassel cannot = good QB

Cassel = NO chance at good QB

And for anybody that STILL thinks Stanzi shouldn't play, TJ Yates has some playoff champagne for your ass...

[the Talking Can]

Haha ok my bad. Regardless of Drafturbator or Truefan-ness its freaking retarded to throw away a season like that. Completely destroys the sanctity of the game.

sanctity of the game?

jesus, of all the horse shit i've read....the Colts are going to go from Manning to Luck because they lost and lost well

meanwhile, the Chiefs, in order to preserve the sanctity of the game, are going to go from Cassel to Orton...

you can shove the sanctity of the game up pawnsmoker's semen crusted ass...

[petegz28]

The dumbshit PeteJIZZ railed against Suck for Luck during the season and now suddenly wants a Suck for Luck-type campaign in 2012.

PeteJIZZ= A Gutless hypocritical FRAUD

You don't read to well, do you, asshat? I never said I wanted to tank the season. I am saying, and I'll say it slow so you can understand it, that people who want to draft a QB but don't want Cassel to start are not helping their cause.

You're not to fucking bright, are you, Princess?

No go fuck your Fisher life-size poster and STFU

[the Talking Can]

i wonder if the Cavaliers cared about the sanctity of the game after they tanked a season and got Lebron...

[petegz28]

Logic lesson:

Matt Cassel = 30 years old
Matt Cassel = peaked
Matt Cassel ≠ good QB

Therefore, Cassel cannot = best chance at good QB because
Cassel cannot = good QB

Cassel = NO chance at good QB

And for anybody that STILL thinks Stanzi shouldn't play, TJ Yates has some playoff champagne for your ass...

FAIL!

Cassel=Not a QB
Cassel=Lots of losses
Cassel=Draftubators dream for high draft pick

[the Talking Can]

jesus dude, weren't you telling us to franchise orton 5 minutes ago...

[htismaqe]

i wonder if the Cavaliers cared about the sanctity of the game after they tanked a season and got Lebron...

So you're saying that we're gonna go 0-16, draft the next Joe Montana, and then lose him in free agency to Miami before we win a Super Bowl?

:doh!:

[petegz28]

jesus dude, weren't you telling us to franchise orton 5 minutes ago...

Are you really stupid or is it just too early for your brain? These are called, discussion topics.

The "franchise Orton" thread was talking about trying to win next year. This thread is talking about trying to lose next year.

These are just things to talk about, stop being so fucking serious.

[htismaqe]

FAIL!

Cassel=Not a QB
Cassel=Lots of losses
Cassel=Draftubators dream for high draft pick

The logic fails here too.

The single most frustrating thing about Cassel is his ability to win a couple of games here and there - just enough to keep his position as starting QB and not allow the team to get his replacement.

[the Talking Can]

So you're saying that we're gonna go 0-16, draft the next Joe Montana, and then lose him in free agency to Miami before we win a Super Bowl?

:doh!:

no

but if he left after taking to a superbowl, so what?

better than anything that has happened to the chiefs in decades

[petegz28]

The logic fails here too.

The single most frustrating thing about Cassel is his ability to win a couple of games here and there - just enough to keep his position as starting QB and not allow the team to get his replacement.

Well this might be true. Which is why I prefaced the OP with Cassel vs. Orton.

[htismaqe]

Well this might be true. Which is why I prefaced the OP with Cassel vs. Orton.

While the journeys would be different, the destinations with Cassel and Orton are the same...

[petegz28]

People keep saying that, but I didn't see much from him that would make me think another team is just dying to get their hands on him.

Yeah, I don't think he is going to have a ton of long term contracts thrown at him. If anything he is going to have to take a shorter contract and prove he can be a starter.

[petegz28]

While the journeys would be different, the destinations with Cassel and Orton are the same...

Yes but one could clearly be filled with mroe hope..false hope or not.

[htismaqe]

no

but if he left after taking to a superbowl, so what?

better than anything that has happened to the chiefs in decades

While it's true that getting there would be better than what we've done for the past 40 years, I'm sure Cavs fans would tell you there's nothing satisfying about it.

[the Talking Can]

While it's true that getting there would be better than what we've done for the past 40 years, I'm sure Cavs fans would tell you there's nothing satisfying about it.

i don't really care as that wasn't germane to my point, but Lebron was the best thing to ever happen to that franchise and tanking to get him was the right move, without question...

[htismaqe]

i don't really care as that wasn't germane to my point, but Lebron was the best thing to ever happen to that franchise and tanking to get him was the right move, without question...

Well, I was mostly joking when I first posted it. But the subsequent discussion is definitely interesting.

As for your point, if Lebron is the best thing to ever happen to that franchise, where does that leave them?

Since our fandom is, at this point, 100% hope and nothing more, shouldn't we wish for something better?

[Pasta Little Brioni]

No, trading up in this years draft=the best chance at getting a good QB.

[BoneKrusher]

No, trading up in this years draft=the best chance at getting a good QB.

i agree, trade up and get our QB this year.

there's always free agency to make up for draft picks traded away.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

i agree, trade up and get our QB this year.

there's always free agency to make up for draft picks traded away.

The team has a nice set of WR's, the O-line was solid this year (this will cause butthurt I'm sure), already have a dynamic RB, have a nice rotation on the D-line, 2 All Pro candidates at LB and a young up and comer, 2 lock down corners and an All Pro caliber safety.

I think it's time to bet the farm on a young QB.

[BoneKrusher]

The team has a nice set of WR's, the O-line was solid this year (this will cause butthurt I'm sure), already have a dynamic RB, have a nice rotation on the D-line, 2 All Pro candidates at LB and a young up and comer, 2 lock down corners and an All Pro caliber safety.

I think it's time to bet the farm on a young QB.

i agree 150%.

[petegz28]

No, trading up in this years draft=the best chance at getting a good QB.

I would agree in theory but do you actually think Pioli is going to do that?

[Pasta Little Brioni]

I would agree in theory but do you actually think Pioli is going to do that?

Team also has too much talent to go 4-12, hell they didn't do that this year with Haley's dumbass training camp routine, the injuries, and a third of a season of Falco. Team already had 4 wins when Matt went down, but I forgot this is Exageration Planet.

[milkman]

Logic lesson:

Matt Cassel = 30 years old
Matt Cassel = peaked
Matt Cassel ≠ good QB

Therefore, Cassel cannot = best chance at good QB because
Cassel cannot = good QB

Cassel = NO chance at good QB

And for anybody that STILL thinks Stanzi shouldn't play, TJ Yates has some playoff champagne for your ass...

Let me just say this.

Based on the little that I've seen, and on all that I've read, if Cassel and Stanzi go into the next camp in a true competition for the starting spot, Stanzi wins that competition.

And I think he wins in a competition with Orton, as well.

I don't know what that means long term.

But I don't expect that we will be bringing in anyone in the draft before the mid to late rounds, so that's what we are stuck with.

[htismaqe]

Let me just say this.

Based on the little that I've seen, and on all that I've read, if Cassel and Stanzi go into the next camp in a true competition for the starting spot, Stanzi wins that competition.

And I think he wins in a competition with Orton, as well.

I don't know what that means long term.

But I don't expect that we will be bringing in anyone in the draft before the mid to late rounds, so that's what we are stuck with.

Stanzi is pretty much our only hope of not getting more Orton/Cassel futility...

[petegz28]

Stanzi is pretty much our only hope of not getting more Orton/Cassel futility...

Kinda how I see it unless we pick someone up in FA, i.e. Matt Flynn. And I'm not usre that's the way to go anyway.

[Simplicity]

Stanzi for President.

[beach tribe]

You don't read to well, do you, asshat? I never said I wanted to tank the season. I am saying, and I'll say it slow so you can understand it, that people who want to draft a QB but don't want Cassel to start are not helping their cause.

You're not to ****ing bright, are you, Princess?

No go **** your Fisher life-size poster and STFU

Cassel won 10 games with less talent than we have now.
No one short of a Palko is going to get us a top 5 pick.
This thread is about as stupid as the rest of the threads you feel you have to make.

[milkman]

Jamaal Charles won 10 games with less talent than we have now.
No one short of a Palko is going to get us a top 5 pick.
This thread is about as stupid as the rest of the threads you feel you have to make.

FYP

[Rausch]

Cassel won 10 games with less talent than we have now.

I don't think so...


This thread is about as stupid as the rest of the threads you feel you have to make.

This I agree with...

[beach tribe]

I don't think so...




I kinda remember us getting a beat down from the Ravens after a 10-6 season. No?

[beach tribe]

FYP

Agreed.
But, I believe he returns.

[MTG#10]

it isn't surprising that the biggest fucking douchebag idiot on this site not only wanted to tank last season, but wants to tank NEXT season before we have even drafted....

I thought you had that honor reserved for me? :deevee:

[burt]

I thought you had that honor reserved for me? :deevee:

You are a close second........

[Rausch]

I kinda remember us getting a beat down from the Ravens after a 10-6 season. No?

And that team was less talented?

The people we had starting this year instead of Charles, Moeaki, and Berry were better?

We weren't better off with Watters?

[Pioli Zombie]

Seriously has anyone heard the prognosis for Charles, Moeaki, and Berry? Keep Orton, get those guy back, and they are 10-6 next year. But please, tank the season, enjoy 2-14 in order to hope that maybe you can draft a qb, that will bring lots of enjoyment.

[petegz28]

Seriously has anyone heard the prognosis for Charles, Moeaki, and Berry? Keep Orton, get those guy back, and they are 10-6 next year. But please, tank the season, enjoy 2-14 in order to hope that maybe you can draft a qb, that will bring lots of enjoyment.

Charles would be the one I'm worried about. Considering the cuts and stuff he has to make unlike Berry.

[whoman69]

I would trade Cassel to see if he can improve our chances of moving up.

[Rasputin]

Seriously has anyone heard the prognosis for Charles, Moeaki, and Berry? Keep Orton, get those guy back, and they are 10-6 next year. But please, tank the season, enjoy 2-14 in order to hope that maybe you can draft a qb, that will bring lots of enjoyment.

I bet the Panthers win a playoff game before the Chiefs get a win in the playoffs.

[Rasputin]

Hell, it wouldn't surprise me if the Panthers win a fucking Super Bowl before Chiefs win there next playoff game.

[Ming the Merciless]

No, trading up in this years draft=the best chance at getting a good QB.

this

[Cornstock]

No, trading up in this years draft=the best chance at getting a good QB.

This again.

[Direckshun]

So basically, PeteJIZZ, you are advocating for the Chiefs to go with Cassel next season as a Suck for Luck-type strategy, correct? Basically losing to get a high draft pick to draft a franchise QB.

Funny how you were AGAINST the Suck for Luck campaign this season.

Your words in a thread I started earlier during the season titled "Is the Anti-Suck for Luck Crowd Happy Now?

Link: http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost.php?p=8088912&postcount=43



So to recap, you PeteJIZZ, being the little homer bitch that you are, rallied AGAINST the Suck for Luck campaign this season and now you want the Chiefs to waste another season with Cassel in the hopes of drafting a franchise QB in 2013.

Defend yourself, dumbshit.

Pete,

You just got your pants pulled down by one of the stupidest posters on the Planet.

I suggest you pick up knitting.

[Direckshun]

Charles would be the one I'm worried about. Considering the cuts and stuff he has to make unlike Berry.

Safeties have to make cuts all the time.

Knitting, pete. Knitting.

[WilliamTheIrish]

Pete rhymes with delete.

[O.city]

Also, all three have stated that their rehab is coming along really well.

[KCBOSS1]

So let me get this right..... a lot of you guys think this thread is a waste of time, but you took the time and energy to chime in just to insult the thread starter, which is, from my observation, about all of the content that you have to contribute anyway. That about right? You don't like the thread, move on. simple

[Skyy God]

Pete,

You just got your pants pulled down by one of the stupidest posters on the Planet.

I suggest you pick up knitting.

That's the kind of intellectual consistency I expect from Pete.

[L.A. Chieffan]

I do agree with the premise that Cassell gives us the best shot for a good qb, because Cassell is the best qb we could possibly get right now

[O.city]

Cassel is better than Luck or RGIII L.A?

I wanna hear your troll i mean answer on this one.

[milkman]

So let me get this right..... a lot of you guys think this thread is a waste of time, but you took the time and energy to chime in just to insult the thread starter, which is, from my observation, about all of the content that you have to contribute anyway. That about right? You don't like the thread, move on. simple

So, let me get this straight......you chimed in to bitch about the people bitching?

Does that make your post any more relevant than the ones you're bitching about?

[Psyko Tek]

come on we haven't even fucked up this year's draft yet

[L.A. Chieffan]

Cassel is better than Luck or RGIII L.A?

I wanna hear your troll i mean answer on this one.

#1 next season yes he will be better than both of them

#2 we don't have a chance in hell in getting either one so why don't you just include tom Brady and Drew brees in there

[O.city]

#1 next season yes he will be better than both of them

#2 we don't have a chance in hell in getting either one so why don't you just include tom Brady and Drew brees in there

Just stop.

And we do have a chance in hell. Everyone has a chance right now.

[Okie_Apparition]

Everyone has had their pants pulled down on here about one thing or another
enjoy the distraction from your own well light behind while you can
~I drink for the warmth

[L.A. Chieffan]

Just stop.

And we do have a chance in hell. Everyone has a chance right now.

I love it when I own people at their own argument and they tell me to stop.

[milkman]

#1 next season yes he will be better than both of them

#2 we don't have a chance in hell in getting either one so why don't you just include tom Brady and Drew brees in there

I'm not buying youir schtick, but for arguments sake, Cassel was better than Cam Newton and Andy Dalton this year, right?

As for #2, you may well be right, but who gives a rat's ass?

[O.city]

I love it when I own people at their own argument and they tell me to stop.

I was telling you to stop with the trolling, dipshit.

I'll go along.

Matt Cassel is ranked in the bottom 5 of every qb ranking in the NFL. We had the 30 ranked passing game last year. He averages near 5 YPA.

He has beaten 1 playoff team as a Chief. In three years.

Kyle Orton beat 2 in 3 games.

I know you are gonna fire back with "Well everything changed when Haley got fired" when it really didn't.

So again, Just Stop.

[KCBOSS1]

So, let me get this straight......you chimed in to bitch about the people bitching?

Does that make your post any more relevant than the ones you're bitching about?

No actually, I was just trying to read some of the responses in the thread and had to wade through the BS to just hear some comments with some real content. So I decided to start shoveling the BS..... thanks for contributing more.

[petegz28]

Safeties have to make cuts all the time.

Knitting, pete. Knitting.

Safeties do not have to make the same cuts as a RB.....:facepalm:

[L.A. Chieffan]

I'm not buying youir schtick, but for arguments sake, Cassel was better than Cam Newton and Andy Dalton this year, right?

As for #2, you may well be right, but who gives a rat's ass?

haha, newton had the greatest rookie season for a qb ever so if thats the bar youre going to set then youre high. having said that cassell wouldve finished with a better W-L record.

Dalton did OK for a rookie, once the other Ds figured him out he was nothing special in the second half

as for #2, why even discuss it that was my point. we might as well talk about how the chiefs are going to trade for aaron rodgers. its just not gonna happen

[L.A. Chieffan]

I was telling you to stop with the trolling, dipshit.

I'll go along.

Matt Cassel is ranked in the bottom 5 of every qb ranking in the NFL. We had the 30 ranked passing game last year. He averages near 5 YPA.

He has beaten 1 playoff team as a Chief. In three years.

Kyle Orton beat 2 in 3 games.

I know you are gonna fire back with "Well everything changed when Haley got fired" when it really didn't.

So again, Just Stop.

listen if you want to crown orton and franchise him i can go along with that. i just think cassel has a higher ceiling

[boogblaster]

hey how did my adopt a chief do this year .. please grade him .. kelly gregg ...

[O.city]

listen if you want to crown orton and franchise him i can go along with that. i just think cassel has a higher ceiling

Oh I was just using Orton as an point driver.

Wouldn't mind having him as a stop gap while we groom someone.

[milkman]

haha, newton had the greatest rookie season for a qb ever so if thats the bar youre going to set then youre high. having said that cassell wouldve finished with a better W-L record.

Dalton did OK for a rookie, once the other Ds figured him out he was nothing special in the second half

as for #2, why even discuss it that was my point. we might as well talk about how the chiefs are going to trade for aaron rodgers. its just not gonna happen

You're first point doesn't matter, because any rookie QB wiht potential is better than Matt Cassel.

You're second point is pointless, because we are here to discuss things, even if they seem impossible.

[milkman]

No actually, I was just trying to read some of the responses in the thread and had to wade through the BS to just hear some comments with some real content. So I decided to start shoveling the BS..... thanks for contributing more.

I'm sorry I pissed on your bitching.

I was discussing things.

I wasn't bitching about the topic.

But you came in here and bitched about the bitching.

What the fuck is the fucking point in bitching?

Are you too fucking stupid to "wade through the BS" and find real content that you can discuss?

That's a rhetorical question, bitch.

[KCBOSS1]

You're first point doesn't matter, because any rookie QB wiht potential is better than Matt Cassel.

You're second point is pointless, because we are here to discuss things, even if they seem impossible.

Now see, you are actually interested in discussing things. Why would you jump me for telling people who are just here to bitch at the thread to please shut up and move on to a thread that interests them? You didn't like my tone or what?

[milkman]

Now see, you are actually interested in discussing things. Why would you jump me for telling people who are just here to bitch at the thread to please shut up and move on to a thread that interests them? You didn't like my tone or what?

People who bitch about bitching piss me off.

And I'm pissing myself off right now.

I'm done with it.

[KCBOSS1]

People who bitch about bitching piss me off.

And I'm pissing myself off right now.

I'm done with it.


Let me see.... "People who bitch about bitching piss me off." okay, got it. Well I'm bitching about you bitching about me bitching about others just bitching. We got 4 tier bitching going on now.

[htismaqe]

listen if you want to crown orton and franchise him i can go along with that. i just think cassel has a higher ceiling

Cassel? Orton? Ceiling? ROFL ROFL ROFL

[whoman69]

Cassel? Orton? Ceiling? ROFL ROFL ROFL

Sure. Here is a representation of said ceiling.

http://www.teluglobe.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/ceiling_caved_in2.jpg

[banyon]

No, trading up in this years draft=the best chance at getting a good QB.

Agreed, but I don't think Pioli will do this because he's got to prove to everyone what a Genious he is and find another "Brady" late. I think this part of his ego is why we had to suffer Cassel as long as we did when Haley didn't want him.

[QBGuru]

Cassel isn't the answer but he is serviceable. I don't mind letting Orton and Cassel battle for the top position next year. With Berry and Charles back, we should be just fine. No Super Bowl next year, but the playoffs are a strong possibility with our defense (+Berry).

Let Pioli find us a QB and have him develop over the next few years.

[milkman]

Cassel isn't the answer but he is serviceable. I don't mind letting Orton and Cassel battle for the top position next year. With Berry and Charles back, we should be just fine. No Super Bowl next year, but the playoffs are a strong possibility with our defense (+Berry).

Let Pioli find us a QB and have him develop over the next few years.

Cassel is servicable?

How many years?

[htismaqe]

Cassel isn't the answer but he is serviceable. I don't mind letting Orton and Cassel battle for the top position next year. With Berry and Charles back, we should be just fine. No Super Bowl next year, but the playoffs are a strong possibility with our defense (+Berry).

Let Pioli find us a QB and have him develop over the next few years.

Pioli thought Cassel was the answer. In fact, all signs suggest he STILL thinks Cassel is the answer.

[ArrowheadMagic]

If you draft a 1st rd QB, you'd get more out of Cassel than you would Orton. Cassel at least performs when given a challenge.

[htismaqe]

If you draft a 1st rd QB, you'd get more out of Cassel than you would Orton. Cassel at least performs when given a challenge.

Saying you'd get more out of Cassel than Orton is like saying you'd get more orange juice out of a lemon than you would a lime...

[ArrowheadMagic]

Pioli thought Cassel was the answer. In fact, all signs suggest he STILL thinks Cassel is the answer.


Pioli has already let go of his 1st coaching hire. Its safe to say he probably isnt tied to Cassel. Just dont see any other choice that he has. Even if he wants to draft a QB 1st rd, Orton wont perform, doubtful he helps his eventual replacement. Cassel would at least try to step up to the challenge.


Luck is the only 1st year QB ready to start. We are in the position to draft a guy who isnt ready. Who do you want tutoring the replacement?

[King_Chief_Fan]

People who bitch about bitching piss me off.

And I'm pissing myself off right now.

I'm done with it.

says the biggest bitcher on the planet

[bevischief]

There is a lot of butt hurt in this thread...

[Simplicity]

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[ArrowheadMagic]

Saying you'd get more out of Cassel than Orton is like saying you'd get more orange juice out of a lemon than you would a lime...


True, but we will need a vet to tutor. You want the sour or the sweet? Whomever we draft will need a vet to show the ropes. Which one is better? I prefer Flynn over either, but that might be the wrong approach. Bottom line, we need a franchise QB, we arent moving up to get Luck, I am not sold on RGIII being able to hold up physically. What other alternative is there?

[htismaqe]

Pioli has already let go of his 1st coaching hire. Its safe to say he probably isnt tied to Cassel. Just dont see any other choice that he has. Even if he wants to draft a QB 1st rd, Orton wont perform, doubtful he helps his eventual replacement. Cassel would at least try to step up to the challenge.

Based on what evidence?

Cassel has always been the guy gunning for someone else's job.

We've already seen him throw temper tantrums when things don't go his way. There's absolutely zero evidence to suggest Cassel would elevate his game with pressure on him like that. In fact, the evidence we DO have suggests the exact opposite.

[htismaqe]

True, but we will need a vet to tutor. You want the sour or the sweet? Whomever we draft will need a vet to show the ropes. Which one is better? I prefer Flynn over either, but that might be the wrong approach. Bottom line, we need a franchise QB, we arent moving up to get Luck, I am not sold on RGIII being able to hold up physically. What other alternative is there?

Again, you're assuming Cassel would WANT to be a mentor and based on his demeanor most of the time, I would say that's unlikely.

Not to mention the fact that he's the LAST guy you want teaching a rookie - unless you want to ruin them.

[L.A. Chieffan]

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The guy is just a straight up warrior . Any other qb would be collecting workers comp if they played behind this line the past three years

[ArrowheadMagic]

Again, you're assuming Cassel would WANT to be a mentor and based on his demeanor most of the time, I would say that's unlikely.

Not to mention the fact that he's the LAST guy you want teaching a rookie - unless you want to ruin them.

Cassel lacks the physical tools, his work ethic is another story. Orton doesnt want the challenge. He wants to be it. We arent drafting a guy that steps in on day 1 and is the starter.

Whats your solution? Its a team that is close to competing. QB away from being serious contenders. What QB's in this draft do you think start day 1 and compete with?

[htismaqe]

Cassel lacks the physical tools, his work ethic is another story. Orton doesnt want the challenge. He wants to be it. We arent drafting a guy that steps in on day 1 and is the starter.

Cassel's work ethic when the job is HIS is one thing. You're assuming that he'd welcome in a rookie that's eventually going to take his job. "Hat boy" wouldn't be having that and you know it.

Whats your solution? Its a team that is close to competing. QB away from being serious contenders. What QB's in this draft do you think start day 1 and compete with?

I want Cassel off this team no matter what. That's it. Let the rest of the chips fall where they may. Cut the fucker and never look back.

[ArrowheadMagic]

Cassel's work ethic when the job is HIS is one thing. You're assuming that he'd welcome in a rookie that's eventually going to take his job. "Hat boy" wouldn't be having that and you know it.



I want Cassel off this team no matter what. That's it. Let the rest of the chips fall where they may. Cut the ****er and never look back.

Fair enough, sign Orton? Stanzi? or draft a guy that most likely isnt a 1st rd QB talent wise?

[htismaqe]

Fair enough, sign Orton? Stanzi? or draft a guy that most likely isnt a 1st rd QB talent wise?

We're not drafting a QB. The only hope is that Stanzi makes a case in camp that can't be refused.

Otherwise, it's Orton or bust.

I've pretty much resigned myself to the fact that if there's a "right" thing to do, the Chiefs will do the opposite.

[Skyy God]

Cassel isn't the answer but he is serviceable. I don't mind letting Orton and Cassel battle for the top position next year. With Berry and Charles back, we should be just fine. No Super Bowl next year, but the playoffs are a strong possibility with our defense (+Berry).

Let Pioli find us a QB and have him develop over the next few years.

A tugjob from a calloused lot lizard might also be serviceable, but I'm sure as shit not interested.

[milkman]

We're not drafting a QB. The only hope is that Stanzi makes a case in camp that can't be refused.

Otherwise, it's Orton or bust.

I've pretty much resigned myself to the fact that if there's a "right" thing to do, the Chiefs will do the opposite.

Even though I still discuss the possibility of trading up, I'm fully aware of unlikely that is.

What I would do if I was in charge, however, is cut Cassel, let Orton walk, sign Matt Flynn in free agency, trade down in the draft to where Tannehil and value match up, and tell Flynn the job is his to lose.

With Flynn, Stanzi and Tannehill, you might have your QB.

[ArrowheadMagic]

We're not drafting a QB. The only hope is that Stanzi makes a case in camp that can't be refused.

Otherwise, it's Orton or bust.

I've pretty much resigned myself to the fact that if there's a "right" thing to do, the Chiefs will do the opposite.

LOL definitely feels that way. I will assume that Pioli knows you need a QB to win. I know we arent trading up. I will assume he knows Orton isnt the guy either..... a lot of assuming. I'd prefer getting Clements as a real play calling OC/ asst HC and grabbing Flynn. Old school I know, keep trying something that never works. But he excites me more than the QB class coming out. We arent top 5 drafting next year if healthy. We arent trading up next year either.

I want neither if given a choice between Cassel and Orton.

[Jawshco]

I know that Orton isn't the answer and may only be slightly better than Cassel, but I'd much prefer to have us to into next season with Orton, Stanzi, & #1 draft pick while trading Cassel somewhere else. Orton didn't have a preseason with our offence and had very little time to build chemistry with our recievers. Yet, he was making plays that Cassel never did. Once Moe and Charles come back next year, I can see "Pro Bowl" Orton looking decent while we groom the young QB's.

I still wish we knew what we had in Stanzi. I understand why Romeo couldn't play him (since Orton gave him the best chance of winning his own job).

[htismaqe]

Even though I still discuss the possibility of trading up, I'm fully aware of unlikely that is.

What I would do if I was in charge, however, is cut Cassel, let Orton walk, sign Matt Flynn in free agency, trade down in the draft to where Tannehil and value match up, and tell Flynn the job is his to lose.

With Flynn, Stanzi and Tannehill, you might have your QB.

That's a decent enough plan. Better than the other options available.

[ArrowheadMagic]

Even though I still discuss the possibility of trading up, I'm fully aware of unlikely that is.

What I would do if I was in charge, however, is cut Cassel, let Orton walk, sign Matt Flynn in free agency, trade down in the draft to where Tannehil and value match up, and tell Flynn the job is his to lose.

With Flynn, Stanzi and Tannehill, you might have your QB.


Help me see the love for Tannehill, watch a lot of A&M, and just dont see anything that screams franchise QB. Obviously he adjusted to playing QB, great athlete. I just dont see him being a better QB than he was late last year. In the big games, he just comes up empty.

[ArrowheadMagic]

That's a decent enough plan. Better than the other options available.

Most things are better than the current options.

[ArrowheadMagic]

I know that Orton isn't the answer and may only be slightly better than Cassel, but I'd much prefer to have us to into next season with Orton, Stanzi, & #1 draft pick while trading Cassel somewhere else. Orton didn't have a preseason with our offence and had very little time to build chemistry with our recievers. Yet, he was making plays that Cassel never did. Once Moe and Charles come back next year, I can see "Pro Bowl" Orton looking decent while we groom the young QB's.

I still wish we knew what we had in Stanzi. I understand why Romeo couldn't play him (since Orton gave him the best chance of winning his own job).

1st off... I dont see Orton wiling to fight for a job. Stanzi should have played well beforE PALKO ever saw the field. Crennel was correct in which QB was most likely to win a game, we were still in the playoff hunt.


We need a QB to build on, whether it be thru FA, draft or whatever.. We need to develop one if we plan on winning a championship.

[ArrowheadMagic]

That's a decent enough plan. Better than the other options available.


Good to have football talk that wont turn into a pissing match.

[milkman]

Help me see the love for Tannehill, watch a lot of A&M, and just dont see anything that screams franchise QB. Obviously he adjusted to playing QB, great athlete. I just dont see him being a better QB than he was late last year. In the big games, he just comes up empty.

I haven't seen a lot of Tannehil, but from what I did see I like his game, and his progression.

He's still learning.

[FloridaMan88]

You don't read to well, do you, asshat? I never said I wanted to tank the season. I am saying, and I'll say it slow so you can understand it, that people who want to draft a QB but don't want Cassel to start are not helping their cause.

You're not to ****ing bright, are you, Princess?

No go **** your Fisher life-size poster and STFU

ROFL JFC you were DISMANTLED in epic fashion with your own words from earlier this season and now you want to run from what you said to start THIS very thread.

Your words from the original post in this thread:

Ok, so, all of us don't want Cassel. Well, most of us. However all of us want the Chiefs to draft the "QBoTF". We know that isn't going to happen this year. And the chances of it happening in 2013 will depend on how we do next season. We go 8-8 or better and forget it. We go 4-12 and we got a shot. Unless Pioli for some reason pulls a 180 and actually trades up, which we all know won't happen.

So when you say "all of us want the Chiefs to draft the QBOTF", are you not including yourself in that "all of us"?

Then you go on to dismiss the chances of the Chiefs drafting Luck or RGIII in April's draft, and proceed to say that the chances of the Chiefs being in a position to draft a QBOTF in 2013 "will depend on how we do next season", and then stating the obvious that if the Chiefs go 4-12 they have a shot at drafting a QBOTF.

So let's lay this out very step by step since your brain has clearly been destroyed of its ability to comprehend basic logic (I am guessing having your head up Clark's ass on a consistent basis might be the cause of your head trauma)...

1) You support the Chiefs drafting a QBTOF.

2) You acknowledge that the Chiefs will have no shot of drafting a QBOTF in 2013 if they finish 8-8 or better next season.

3) You acknowledge that the Chiefs have a shot at drafting a QBOTF in 2013 if they finish 4-12 next season.

Therefore you want to tank the season. You may not have said the words "I want to tank the season" but that is what you are implying in your original post.

This tanking the season is of course what all of us on the Suck for Luck bandwagon advocated for this season.

You, being the gutless piece of homer garbage that you are, positioned yourself AGAINST Suck for Luck with the following statement earlier this season:

I cannot root for my team to lose "on purpose" for the sake of drafting one person we "hope" would be the answer.

Link: http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost.php?p=8088912&postcount=43

So once again... defend your words, DUMBSHIT.

[ArrowheadMagic]

I haven't seen a lot of Tannehil, but from what I did see I like his game, and his progression.

He's still learning.


Key still learning. Athletically, yes he can play the game. Just havent seen "it" when times get tough, he gets going. Funny how people question Bradford coming out, but all of a sudden dont mind Big XII spread QB's. Tannehill has a long way to go. Not sure what his ceiling is. But isnt or shouldnt be considered a 1st rd talent.Hard to get over his lack of starts.




Agree on Flynn though.

[milkman]

Key still learning. Athletically, yes he can play the game. Just havent seen "it" when times get tough, he gets going. Funny how people question Bradford coming out, but all of a sudden dont mind Big XII spread QB's. Tannehill has a long way to go. Not sure what his ceiling is. But isnt or shouldnt be considered a 1st rd talent.Hard to get over his lack of starts.




Agree on Flynn though.

The problem is that Tannehill will go in the first round, and is likely the third QB in this draft.

I also like Nick Foles upside.

The question is, do you take a chance on a guy, whether it's Tannehill or Foles, that is a developmental project, and so you take that chance in the first or the second?

[chuxtrux]

I am actually a huge fan of Jameis Winston who is the number one ranked high school quarterback by Rivals.com. Assuming he will be a top ranked qb in the draft, we need to tank the 2015 season to get the number 1 pick in the 2016 draft. We should keep the current group of players in place and be mediocre for the next 2-3 years then by 2015 Hali and DJ will be very old and then trade away Flowers, Berry, Houston, and Charles for future draft picks that we can use once Winston develops. Also you will need to keep Cassell at quarterback until then. This is our only way to get a franchise quarterback and if this doesn't happen THEN PIOLI NEEDS TO BE FIRED!!!!!!!one!

[L.A. Chieffan]

I am actually a huge fan of Jameis Winston who is the number one ranked high school quarterback by Rivals.com. Assuming he will be a top ranked qb in the draft, we need to tank the 2015 season to get the number 1 pick in the 2016 draft. We should keep the current group of players in place and be mediocre for the next 2-3 years then by 2015 Hali and DJ will be very old and then trade away Flowers, Berry, Houston, and Charles for future draft picks that we can use once Winston develops. Also you will need to keep Cassell at quarterback until then. This is our only way to get a franchise quarterback and if this doesn't happen THEN PIOLI NEEDS TO BE FIRED!!!!!!!one!

We should probably start tanking now just to make sure

[ArrowheadMagic]

The problem is that Tannehill will go in the first round, and is likely the third QB in this draft.

I also like Nick Foles upside.

The question is, do you take a chance on a guy, whether it's Tannehill or Foles, that is a developmental project, and so you take that chance in the first or the second?

For what a franchise QB means to a team, you always take the chance. Outside of Luck, you need to have the right developmental pieces in place.

[petegz28]

ROFL JFC you were DISMANTLED in epic fashion with your own words from earlier this season and now you want to run from what you said to start THIS very thread.

Your words from the original post in this thread:



So when you say "all of us want the Chiefs to draft the QBOTF", are you not including yourself in that "all of us"?

Then you go on to dismiss the chances of the Chiefs drafting Luck or RGIII in April's draft, and proceed to say that the chances of the Chiefs being in a position to draft a QBOTF in 2013 "will depend on how we do next season", and then stating the obvious that if the Chiefs go 4-12 they have a shot at drafting a QBOTF.

So let's lay this out very step by step since your brain has clearly been destroyed of its ability to comprehend basic logic (I am guessing having your head up Clark's ass on a consistent basis might be the cause of your head trauma)...

1) You support the Chiefs drafting a QBTOF.

2) You acknowledge that the Chiefs will have no shot of drafting a QBOTF in 2013 if they finish 8-8 or better next season.

3) You acknowledge that the Chiefs have a shot at drafting a QBOTF in 2013 if they finish 4-12 next season.

Therefore you want to tank the season. You may not have said the words "I want to tank the season" but that is what you are implying in your original post.

This tanking the season is of course what all of us on the Suck for Luck bandwagon advocated for this season.

You, being the gutless piece of homer garbage that you are, positioned yourself AGAINST Suck for Luck with the following statement earlier this season:



Link: http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost.php?p=8088912&postcount=43

So once again... defend your words, DUMBSHIT.

Roidrage much?

[FloridaMan88]

Roidrage much?

Dumbshit much?

You have been owned.