***OFFICIAL 2012 CHAMPIONSHIP WEEK / BUBBLE WATCH THREAD****

[Buck]

ACC: FLORIDA STATE
AMERICA EAST: VERMONT
A10: ST. BONAVENTURE
A-SUN: BELMONT
BIG 12: MISSOURI
BIG EAST: LOUISVILLE
BIG SKY: MONTANA
BIG SOUTH: UNC ASHVILLE
BIG TEN: MICHIGAN STATE
BIG WEST: LONG BEACH STATE
CAA: VIRGINIA COMMONWEALTH UNIVERSITY
C-USA: MEMPHIS
HORIZON: DETROIT
IVY: HARVARD
MAAC: LOYOLA (MD)
MAC: OHIO
MEAC: NORFOLK STATE
MVC: CREIGHTON
MWC: NEW MEXICO
NEC: LONG ISLAND
OVC: MURRAY ST
PAC-12: COLORADO
PATRIOT: LEHIGH
SEC: VANDERBILT
SOUTHERN: DAVIDSON
SOUTHLAND: LAMAR
SUMMIT: SOUTH DAKOTA STATE
SUN BELT: WESTERN KENTUCKY
SWAC: MISSISSIPPI VALLEY
WAC: NEW MEXICO STATE
WCC: ST. MARY'S

BOLD = AUTOBID
ITALICS = BUBBLE BURSTER
One bubble burst (St. Bonaventure)

[Buck]

Illinois St and Creighton going into overtime right now in the MVC.

If Illinois St wins, then there is 1 bubble burst.

[Bugeater]

Well go Illinois State then!

[Buck]

Well go Illinois State then!

Creighton is probably going to make it either way, if that's why you're rooting against them.

[Buck]

Was just about to call the victory for Creighton, but Ill St. forced a turnover and got the lead down to 6 with 37.7 left. It will take a lot to come back from this, but we've all seen more unlikely things happen.

[Bugeater]

Creighton is probably going to make it either way, if that's why you're rooting against them.
Well damnit, why did you get me all excited then?

[Bugeater]

Looks like the got it anyway. Meh.

[Buck]

ILLINOIS STATE DOWN BY 3 WITH 9.6 TO GO!

[stonedstooge]

Illinois State still has life

[Buck]

CONGRATULATIONS CREIGHTON BLUE JAYS ON MAKING IT TO THE 2012 NCAA TOURNAMENT!

[Buck]

VCU IN.

GUESS WHO YOU DONT WANT IN YOUR BRACKET?

[Dr. Johnny Fever]

I hope Kansas makes the tourney this year. That would be fun.

[Buck]

THEY'RE ONE OF THE BEST BUBBLE TEAMS. THEY SHOULD MAKE IT.

[Al Bundy]

I hope Kansas makes the tourney this year. That would be fun.

They should squeak in as a 12 seed.

[Buck]

Loyola (MD) wins the MAAC. I'd imagine they might be in the "opening round."

[Dr. Johnny Fever]

THEY'RE ONE OF THE BEST BUBBLE TEAMS. THEY SHOULD MAKE IT.

Thanks buddy. That vote of confidence is going to help me sleep a little easier tonight.

:thumb:

[stonedstooge]

Zonga and St. Mary's to overtime

[Buck]

ST. MARY'S WINS THE WCC TOURNAMENT AND WEST CAROLINA VS DAVIDSON ON ESPN 2 IS GOING INTO DOUBLE OVERTIME FOR THE SOCON CONFERENCE.

[Buck]

Davidson wins the SOCon.

Fucking great game. Feel bad for Western Carolina.

[Dr. Johnny Fever]

Thanks for watching this stuff Buck so I can watch American Pickers.

[Buck]

Tonight we have Detroit vs Valpariso for the Horizon Tourney Championship (Butler not going to lose the Championship game this year)

South Dakota State vs Western Illinois for the Summit League

Lastly North Texas vs Western Kentucky for the Sun Belt.

That last game is on ESPN2 right now and its 66-63 North Texas with less than 4 min to go.

[RustShack]

Is it too early to call Iowa State winning the Big12 Tourney?

[Buck]

Is it too early to call Iowa State winning the Big12 Tourney?

I can't wait til I own your sig. We need to come to terms on how long it lasts.

I say until College Football Season begins next year, and that's opening kickoff of the opening game by ISU (for you) or SDSU (for me).

[Buck]

CRAZY sequence there.

North Texas down 2 with 27 sec to go. They have possession.

[Buck]

And some dude on North Texas just went full retard.

WKU looks to have this game if they can make free throws.

[Buck]

WOWOWOWOWOW

WKU MISSES THE FREE THROW BUT GETS THE REBOUND AND PUTS IT IN.

THEY'RE UP 4 AND WITH 4 SEC LEFT THEY FOUL A 3 PT SHOT BY NTU, PUTTING THEM AT THE LINE FOR 3.

[Buck]

North Texas is retarded.

The game's not over, but I'm calling it.

CONGRATS WESTERN KENTUCKY ON ADVANCING TO THE NCAA TOURNAMENT!

[Buck]

Western Illinois and South Dakota State are going into overtime tied at 44 on ESPN 2.

Seems like every single championship game so far in Championship Week has been great.

[chiefsfan987]

Western Illinois and South Dakota State are going into overtime tied at 44 on ESPN 2.

Seems like every single championship game so far in Championship Week has been great.

Niether team can score but I'm diggin it just because neither team has ever been to the NCAA tournament.

[chiefsfan987]

lmao @ that 3 going in

[KC_Connection]

I really wanted Mutombo and whatever school he was with to win last night over Davidson.

[Al Bundy]

Entertaining game between the Jack Rabbits and the Leathernecks.

[KC_Connection]

South Dakota State is actually good surprisingly...49 in KenPom. Western Illinois is in the 180s.

[ROYC75]

North Texas is retarded.

The game's not over, but I'm calling it.

CONGRATS WESTERN KENTUCKY ON ADVANCING TO THE NCAA TOURNAMENT!

WooHooo , Way to go Hilltoppers & Coach Ray Harper. Harper is a local guy from Greenville, KY, where I live that has has a successful NAIA & NCAA II Championship runs over his career.

He was named interm coach this year after joining the staff and WKU starting off @ 5 - 11, they now stand 15 - 18 and the team is really buying into his teachings.

Ray has been a big part of the community in his basketball coaching tree and local coaches in the school levels, he is a good coach that just needed a major college to take a chance on him.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/gametracker/recap/NCAAB_20120306_WKY@NTX/wku-stuns-n-texas-for-sun-belt-title
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_Harper

[Buck]

I really wanted Mutombo and whatever school he was with to win last night over Davidson.

Me too. Western Carolina.

They were the team I've rooted for most.

[Pablo]

Back to back shot clock violations.

Don't know that I've ever seen that.

[Buck]

And congrats to Detroit for winning the Horizon League Tournament!

You have big shoes to fill in the absence of your Conference brother Butler. Good luck.

[KC_Connection]

WKU was 9-18 about two weeks ago. And that was in the Sun Belt.

[Buck]

Back to back shot clock violations.

Don't know that I've ever seen that.

I've watched this entire game. I've never seen as many shot clock violations in the entire game before.

[Buck]

CONGRATS SOUTH DAKOTA STATE FOR WINNING THE SUMMIT LEAGUE.

FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER THERE WILL BE TWO SDSU'S IN THE NCAA TOURNEY.

[KC_Connection]

South Dakota St. is going to be a tough 13-14 seed.

[Buck]

Tomorrow Night's championship games:

Big Sky
Weber State vs Eastern Washington/Montana

NEC
Long Island vs Robert Morris

Patriot League
Bucknell vs Lehigh

Plus the Big 12 Conference Tourney starts tomorrow.

[Pablo]

CONGRATS SOUTH DAKOTA STATE FOR WINNING THE SUMMIT LEAGUE.

FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER THERE WILL BE TWO SDSU'S IN THE NCAA TOURNEY.

We all know the Jack Rabbits are the better of the two.

[ROYC75]

WKU was 9-18 about two weeks ago. And that was in the Sun Belt.

They were horrible to start the year off, They have won 6 in a row now. We could see the team buying into in style of play and defense, they are turning the corner and will be a tougher than normal game for a # 1 or a # 2 out of the gate.

Don't expect anything from them, BTA, didn't expect this either, this year. But next year..... easily.

This guy just does things the right way, I have talked to him several times, seem many of his coaching clinics and if my grand son does not end up at KU, I would push him towards Ray any day of the week.




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[Buck]

ALSO CONGRATS TO THE HARVARD CRIMSON ON WINNING THEIR FIRST EVER IVY LEAGUE AND MAKING THE NCAA TOURNAMENT!

[Buck]

Yeah, so after tomorrow, there will have been 14 teams qualified for the tournament and not a single bubble burst yet. Crazy.

[lewdog]

MONTANA GRIZZLIES on ESPN2 right now!

GO GRIZ!

[lewdog]

Calling it early but you can punch at ticket to the dance for the University of Montana Grizzlies out of Missoula, Montana! GO GRIZ!

[Buck]

Congrats to Montana, Lehigh, and Long Island for all making the tourney.

Still zero bubbles burst through today.

[Al Bundy]

Looks like there might 500 people at this Utah vs Colorado game in the Pac-12 tourney.

[Buck]

Looks like there might 500 people at this Utah vs Colorado game in the Pac-12 tourney.

The Pac-12 should not receive an autobid this year.

[KC_Connection]

This is still a better game than the two games we saw in the B12 tonight.

[Buck]

There aren't anymore championship games until Saturday, which means most of the conferences left are at least somewhat legit.

Other than the America East, SWAC, and the Southland, (and the Pac 12), the rest of the conferences have some pretty good teams.

[chiefsfan987]

Colorado competing well in the Pac 12 tournament... They win again tonight.

[chiefsfan987]

Colorado playing well again for a 3rd straight night... 4 minutes away from a chance to play for the Pac tourney championship...

[chiefsfan987]

Buffs win... it'll be Arizona vs Colorado for the pac title. Neither of those teams were making the tourney without the autobid. I think one of the last four in may have just lost a spot.

[KC_Connection]

It would be funny if Colorado made the tournament this year instead of last year when they were a far better team.

The P12 is a hilariously bad basketball conference.

[Ultra Peanut]

MORE LIKE PAC-FARTS

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Fuck you guys. I know the P12 is TERRIBLE this year. And I know Washington doesn't deserve it. But fuck me. Win your conference, and still don't get in. It hurts. Even if they do suck. Crying over.

[chiefsfan987]

Colorado 1 minute and 27 seconds away from winning the Pac tourney if they can hold on to a 5 point lead... they are about to do something they never could in the Big XII in their first season on the west coast.

[chiefsfan987]

The buffs nearly screw the pooch at the end but hold on..

[Ultra Peanut]

Fuck you guys. I know the P12 is TERRIBLE this year. And I know Washington doesn't deserve it. But fuck me. Win your conference, and still don't get in. It hurts. Even if they do suck. Crying over.
WELCOME TO LIFE AS A MID-MAJOR, SCRUBS

*kickflips over Madison Square Garden*

[Ultra Peanut]

... but hey, on the bright side, the NIT is contractually obligated to take regular season conference champions who don't make it to the dance. So at least there's that.



oh my gosh i am so sorry

[Mr. Flopnuts]

... but hey, on the bright side, the NIT is contractually obligated to take regular season conference champions who don't make it to the dance. So at least there's that.



oh my gosh i am so sorry

UW won't even win the NIT. I really have nothing to cry about.

[Buck]

My team lost the Championship Game tonight.

Shit sucks so fucking bad. I don't even care that we are making the tourney as an at-large bid. This will be the first time that SDSU makes it as an At-Large because they've always won their tournament. I never knew that not winning the conference tourney would suck more than making the tourney as an at-large would be good.

[Crush]

The 1st half of Louisville-Cincinnati was so fucking boring.

[Al Bundy]

Congratulations to the Lobos of New Mexico. My 3 favorite teams from the MWC will make the tournament.

[Crush]

Ohio leading Akron 64-61 with 6.2 seconds left in the MAC Championship.

[Rams Fan]

St. Bonny can burst someone's bubble if they win the A10 tourney tomorrow.

[Crush]

Congratulations to Ohio for winning the MAC Championship. They beat Akron 64-63.

[Al Bundy]

Ohio leading Akron 64-61 with 6.2 seconds left in the MAC Championship.

Ohio won.

[Al Bundy]

Ohh and fuck North Carolina. That was a charge at the end of the game.

[kstater]

Congrats to Louisville, you're the Big East Champions.

[Buck]

Ohh and fuck North Carolina. That was a charge at the end of the game.

If you're gonna flop instead of play active defense and try to block a shot at the end of a game that huge, you deserve the no call.

[Buck]

Amazingly, the only bubble burst so far, might not even be. Depends on if you think Nevada will get an at large bid.

If Nevada doesn't get in, then there will have been 0 bubbles burst this year.

[Buck]

I guess the same could be said about Arizona, but I really doubt they give the Pac12 2 teams.

[KC_Connection]

Wow, there's still a game coming up after this Long Beach game.

[KC_Connection]

Congrats to Louisville, you're the Big East Champions.
LMAO

[KC_Connection]

If you're gonna flop instead of play active defense and try to block a shot at the end of a game that huge, you deserve the no call.
I've gotta agree with this. Although I still think NC State got screwed out of that game over the duration of it. Most calls went against them.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

I guess the same could be said about Arizona, but I really doubt they give the Pac12 2 teams.

arizona? Why? Because their name is Arizona? Washington won that conference and swept Arizona.

[Buck]

arizona? Why? Because their name is Arizona? Washington won that conference and swept Arizona.

They got a game further.

What have you done for me lately, and winning the PAC 12 reg season isn't that big of an accomplishment.

Congrats on being the least retarded retard.

:)

[Al Bundy]

If you're gonna flop instead of play active defense and try to block a shot at the end of a game that huge, you deserve the no call.

You do realize that if the roles had been reversed the charge call would have been made, correct?

[Al Bundy]

I don't know that I would want to play Long Beach State in the 1st round.

[Buck]

You do realize that if the roles had been reversed the charge call would have been made, correct?

I highly doubt it. When do you ever see calls made like that with 7 sec left? Hardly ever.

[Al Bundy]

I highly doubt it. When do you ever see calls made like that with 7 sec left? Hardly ever.

UNC would have gotten the call.

[baitism]

UNC would have gotten the call.

This man speaks the truth.

[KC_Connection]

I don't know that I would want to play Long Beach State in the 1st round.
I'm thinking of picking Long Beach to go to the 2nd weekend just for the hell of it. It's just as likely as anything else.

New Mexico St. is absolutely destroying La. Tech right now.

[Al Bundy]

I'm thinking of picking Long Beach to go to the 2nd weekend just for the hell of it. It's just as likely as anything else.

New Mexico St. is absolutely destroying La. Tech right now.

Yeah, I am not sure what to make of New Mexico State. They look like a team that could take a 4 or a 5 to the limit and just beat the shit out of them physically to the point that 48 hours later said team would be out of gas and lose badly.

[Buck]

I'm going to bed, so I'm editing in New Mexico State now.

I just put the ultimate jinx on them. Watch Louisiana Tech make a 27 point swing in the next 2 min.

[Buck]

St. Bonaventure is trying to burst someones bubble.

Up 5 on Xavier with 8:30 left in the A10 Championship game.

[carlos3652]

St. Bonaventure is trying to burst someones bubble.

Up 5 on Xavier with 8:30 left in the A10 Championship game.

It might be Xavier's bubble...

[Buck]

It might be Xavier's bubble...

Could be.

[Buck]

UNC down 1 to Florida State with 30 seconds left. Florida State inbounding.

[Buck]

Bonnies take a 9 point lead with 1:30 left.

Not looking good for Xavier.

[Buck]

Xavier still a team full of thugs.

Hopefully they miss the tourney. I hate them.

[Buck]

Florida state up 3 with 3.9 left.

UNC inbounding.

[O.city]

Vandy with a lead on UK under a minute to go.

[Buck]

FSU beats UNC.

What channel is the Vandy / UK game on ? i cant find it

[Al Bundy]

FSU beats UNC.

What channel is the Vandy / UK game on ? i cant find it

ABC

[Buck]

Well I guess I missed it. Looks like Vandy won.

[tk13]

All of the top four ranked teams lost in their conference tourney. Wonder how long it's been since that happened? Especially since they were all from difference conferences.

[Al Bundy]

UNC finally had to play the game 5 on 5 and lost.

[Al Bundy]

Xavier should be out of the tourney instead of Drexel.

[KC_Connection]

Every #1 seed going into the conference tournaments has now lost (UK, Cuse, UNC, KU). Yeah, these tournaments mean everything. LMAO

[R8RFAN]

Heels let me down & John Henson is a Puss

[Rams Fan]

SLU better be in.

:grovel:

[KC_Connection]

Heels let me down & John Henson is a Puss
Williams is the one who held out Henson...as he should have.

[carlos3652]

SLU better be in.

:grovel:

They are a lock..

[Rams Fan]

They are a lock..

I wouldn't say that.

St. Bonnie winning could fuck that up.

[Ultra Peanut]

Xavier would get bumped before SLU, even after yesterday.

[R8RFAN]

Williams is the one who held out Henson...as he should have.

I disagree, he looked ok in practice but I am not making excuses, FSU beat us fair and square and deserved it shooting almost 60% for the game...


Now it's big dance time

[007]

Kentucky lost?

Wow 5 of the top 6 lost these past 3 days.

[lewdog]

Spartan time baby!

[alnorth]

SLU better be in.

:grovel:

Don't even bother praying, SLU is, easily, by far in.

What you should be praying for is to not get an 8 or 9 seed.

[alnorth]

Calling my shot now for #1 seeds: Aside from the obvious (Kentucky and Syracuse), UNC will be the 3rd #1 seed, and Kansas will be #1 in the West.

Its been trendy this afternoon for people to declare that the Big 10 champ will be a #1 and the Big 10 loser will be a #2, with Kansas and Mizzou both #2 seeds, but they are forgetting one very important thing: conference champs who are crowned right before the selection show don't get credit for it, unless they were a bad team who got the auto-bid.

Its why the Big 12 and lots of other conferences moved their championship game to Saturday, its now understood that if you play your last game on Sunday, you'll screw over your conference champ on seeding. (though conversely, whoever loses might not get hurt as bad, too) If the Big 10 championship game was yesterday, I can see it, but at this point its too late.

[Buck]

Kentucky, Syracuse, Mizzou, Winner of Ohio St/Mich St.

Kansas is not a 1.

[R8RFAN]

kentucky,syracuse,unc,and mizzou

[Buck]

Yeah I'm not sure about Mizzou in mine or if it will be UNC, but I'm leaning towards Mizzou since they won their tourney.

[R8RFAN]

It's gonna be interesting either way... Many many good teams this year, may be one of the best torneys ever

[alnorth]

They may both be #2's, but I seriously doubt Missouri gets placed ahead of Kansas on the S-curve. I've seen some brackets where Missouri is right behind KU on the S-curve, but I haven't seen anyone put Missouri ahead of Kansas.

3 reasons: First, the last 10 games criteria has been greatly de-emphasized, to the point where the selection committee will no longer even see last 10 game records on their profile sheets. The message has been that November and December games will be judged to be exactly equal in importance as your last game. The conference tournament still matters, but not nearly as much as before, or so they say. Second, Mizzou and KU had the same conference schedule, and KU finished 2 games better. Finally, Mizzou's non-conference SOS is horrible, while KU's non-conference SOS is decent. If the Big 10 champ is not getting the last #1 seed, the committee will probably reward the better schedule.

[lewdog]

I would have to think the winner of the Big10 game gets a #1 but then again I am a little biased. :)

[Bambi]

OSU-MSU is crazy right now.

Both very good teams.

Do either one have enough to steal the last #1 from KU?

[KC_Connection]

OSU-MSU is crazy right now.

Both very good teams.

Do either one have enough to steal the last #1 from KU?
I think the winner deserves it.

[lewdog]

OSU-MSU is crazy right now.

Both very good teams.

Do either one have enough to steal the last #1 from KU?

I think State does if they win this game because their strength of schedule was #1 in the nation. Or even OSU if they win it too.

[Bambi]

I think the winner deserves it.

After watching them I think they could be deserving.

Either give KU the #1 in the West or #2 against one of these teams and that is the best setup for the Hawks.

UK, Cuse or UNC's bracket? No thanks

[KC_Connection]

After watching them I think they could be deserving.

Either give KU the #1 in the West or #2 against one of these teams and that is the best setup for the Hawks.

UK, Cuse or UNC's bracket? No thanks
I think that's what will end up happening. I'd also like to avoid those three (especially UK).

[alnorth]

I think the winner deserves it.

The winner might, but I just don't think it'll happen. The selection show is in little over an hour. There's a reason why a lot of conferences moved back a day and most conferences don't play on Sunday anymore.

[KC_Connection]

I hate Craft so much. That looked like a charge.

[lewdog]

Well State better hope Green doesnt have to miss any extended time. Hit his head on the court on that not called charge.

[Bambi]

The winner might, but I just don't think it'll happen. The selection show is in little over an hour. There's a reason why a lot of conferences moved back a day and most conferences don't play on Sunday anymore.

Yep, this has screwed KU many times in the past when the Big 12 played on Sunday.

But I could see them having decided yesterday after it was known that these two would be in the final that they could adjust something that gives the winner a number 1.

I don't know though. The committee doesn't get wrapped up in these tourneys all that much. They look at the whole body of work.

Can some stat geek please post the resumes of OSU, MSU, and KU?

[alnorth]

Yep, this has screwed KU many times in the past when the Big 12 played on Sunday.

But I could see them having decided yesterday after it was known that these two would be in the final that they could adjust something that gives the winner a number 1.

I don't know though. The committee doesn't get wrapped up in these tourneys all that much. They look at the whole body of work.

Can some stat geek please post the resumes of OSU, MSU, and KU?

Ohio State:

27-6, 13-5 Conference, 6 RPI, 16 SOS, 125 Non-con SOS, Scoring Margin 16.30

Record vs:

Top 25: 7-5
Top 50: 9-5
Top 100: 14-6
Top 150: 19-6
Bottom 150: 8-0

Michigan State:

25-7, 13-5 Conference, 4 RPI, 1 SOS, 12 Non-con SOS, Scoring Margin 12.40

Record vs:

Top 25: 8-5
Top 50: 10-5
Top 100: 13-7
Top 150: 18-7
Bottom 150: 7-0

Kansas:

27-6, 16-2 Conference, 7 RPI, 18 SOS, 45 Non-con SOS, Scoring Margin 13.10

Record vs:

Top 25: 5-4
Top 50: 11-5
Top 100: 12-6
Top 150: 17-6
Bottom 150: 10-0

Missouri:

30-4, 14-4 Conference, 10 RPI, 106 SOS, 308 Non-con SOS, Scoring Margin 14.60

Record vs:

Top 25: 4-1
Top 50: 11-3
Top 100: 12-3
Top 150: 19-4
Bottom 150: 11-0

[alnorth]

Actually, based on that, perhaps the committee had KU out and Michigan State in yesterday, regardless of how the Big 10 championship game ends.

[KChiefer]

OSU-MSU is crazy right now.

Both very good teams.


Was looking for a thread to say this very thing. Go MSU!

[alnorth]

Revising my prediction because I can see the committee deciding yesterday that the Spartans should be #1 if they win and creating two brackets this morning.

#1 seeds: Kentucky, Syracuse, UNC, and either Kansas or Michigan State. Spartans if they win, Jayhawks if they lose.

[Bearcat]

Missed 3, missed 3, missed shot, foul, missed FT, foul, missed FT.... Just another Big 10 game. :shrug:

[KC_Connection]

Actually, based on that, perhaps the committee had KU out and Michigan State in yesterday, regardless of how the Big 10 championship game ends.
That's what I'm thinking might be the case.

[KChiefer]

Missed 3, missed 3, missed shot, foul, missed FT, foul, missed FT.... Just another Big 10 game. :shrug:

Think the teams are gassed. Was a great battle until about 2 mins left.

[alnorth]

oh by the way, should mention this now. If KU and Mizzou are both #2 seeds and Mizzou gets St. Louis, that does not mean they were ranked ahead of Kansas on the S-curve. KU is probably destined for Phoenix unless they somehow get ranked #3.

For #1 seeds, they go in order, 1st to 4th, giving strict preference to higher seeds, with 4th getting whatever is left. For #2 seeds, they are no longer concerned about being fair to the #5 team on the curve, they just go strictly on proximity to help the site sell more tickets. Mizzou is much closer to St. Louis than Kansas, so they get St. Louis, even if KU would have been #5 and Mizzou would have hypothetically been #8. Since KU will be closer to Phoenix than anyone else who might be on the 2-line, (and since they will be going West if they have the last #1) Kansas fans should probably start planning on going to the valley of the sun.

[Bambi]

Missouri:

30-4, 14-4 Conference, 10 RPI, 106 SOS, 308 Non-con SOS, Scoring Margin 14.60

Record vs:

Top 25: 4-1
Top 50: 11-3
Top 100: 12-3
Top 150: 19-4
Bottom 150: 11-0

lol, I didn't know a non con SOS that low was even possible.

[Bambi]

oh by the way, should mention this now. If KU and Mizzou are both #2 seeds and Mizzou gets St. Louis, that does not mean they were ranked ahead of Kansas on the S-curve. KU is probably destined for Phoenix unless they somehow get ranked #3.

For #1 seeds, they go in order, 1st to 4th, giving strict preference to higher seeds, with 4th getting whatever is left. For #2 seeds, they are no longer concerned about being fair to the #5 team on the curve, they just go strictly on proximity to help the site sell more tickets. Mizzou is much closer to St. Louis than Kansas, so they get St. Louis, even if KU would have been #5 and Mizzou would have hypothetically been #8. Since KU will be closer to Phoenix than anyone else who might be on the 2-line, (and since they will be going West if they have the last #1) Kansas fans should probably start planning on going to the valley of the sun.

Region doesn't matter. KU has fans everywhere, especially Cali/Arizona. It's all about matchups. And I want to play in MSU's region.

[lewdog]

And I want to play in MSU's region.

Be careful what you wish for! :)

[Bearcat]

Region doesn't matter. KU has fans everywhere, especially Cali/Arizona. It's all about matchups. And I want to play in MSU's region.

If it's because you think MSU would be out by the time they played KU, I'm all for it... but, I'd rather watch Kentucky/KU than MSU/KU. When KU lost to MSU a few years ago in the tournament, it was just brutal to watch.

[KC_Connection]

If it's because you think MSU would be out by the time they played KU, I'm all for it... but, I'd rather watch Kentucky/KU than MSU/KU. When KU lost to MSU a few years ago in the tournament, it was just brutal to watch.
I don't think KU can beat a UK team at its best, so I'd much rather see MSU in KU's region. UK is by far the best team in the NCAA this year, IMO.

[Buck]

I missed the 2nd half of the MSU-OSU game.

10 minutes until the brackets are revealed.

LETS FUCKING GO.

I FEEL AN ILLNESS COMING ON EITHER THURSDAY OR FRIDAY, I BETTER LET WORK KNOW.

[Al Bundy]

Region doesn't matter. KU has fans everywhere, especially Cali/Arizona. It's all about matchups. And I want to play in MSU's region.

They travel well.

[alnorth]

haha, wow. I've heard of people making fun of the banners K-State and Mizzou have chosen to hang, but at least no one in the Big 12 decided to hang something like a giant, prominently displayed, "Ranked #6 at the end of the season" banner.

[Bearcat]

Selection show starting in 2 minutes!!!

You know what that means!?!?!?



Only 20 or 30 minutes before they tell us something we don't already know!!!!

[Rams Fan]

No shock with UK getting the 1st overall.

[Bearcat]

Shocking.

Kentucky is the overall #1.

[Bowser]

No shock with UK getting the 1st overall.

HOW DID THIS HAPPEN

[Buck]

OMG KENTUCKY #1, THIS IS BS LOL

[tk13]

haha, wow. I've heard of people making fun of the banners K-State and Mizzou have chosen to hang, but at least no one in the Big 12 decided to hang something like a giant, prominently displayed, "Ranked #6 at the end of the season" banner.

Really. I can't believe they didn't just hang a "Final Four" banner. That would actually make sense.

[tk13]

BREAKING NEWS: PEYTON MANNING TO FLY TO LEXINGTON TO MEET WITH JOHN CALIPARI.

[Rams Fan]

FUCK YOU MSU

[Bearcat]

UNC in the Midwest... interesting.

[Bearcat]

That definitely means the #2 in Phoenix is MU or KU... and the other gets St. Louis.

I think.

Maybe.

[Rams Fan]

UNC in the Midwest... interesting.

OMG THEY ARE AT THE EDWARD JONES DOME AGAIN.

[Buck]

So, now it comes down to whether Mizzou or KU gets #2 in Midwest

[Bearcat]

Or maybe OSU gets St. Louis.... :hmmmm:

[alnorth]

So, now it comes down to whether Mizzou or KU gets #2 in Midwest

Kansas is likely ranked higher (so should be matched against the #1 in the West) and Mizzou is closer to St. Louis.

[Setsuna]

Missouri got hosed. Selection committee a bunch of homers.

[Rams Fan]

Kansas is likely ranked higher (so should be matched against the #1 in the West) and Mizzou is closer to St. Louis.

That shouldn't matter. Only SLU can't be in the Midwest bracket because they are considered the host tea.

[Buck]

Fucking Commercials.

P.S. After the Selection show, change it to TruTV and they'll reveal how the committee ranked the teams from 1-68 for the first time ever.

[R8RFAN]

http://www.evancarroll.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/unc.jpg

[Setsuna]

****ing Commercials.

P.S. After the Selection show, change it to TruTV and they'll reveal how the committee ranked the teams from 1-68 for the first time ever.

They select it by which conference they suck off the most.

[Bearcat]

Missouri got hosed. Selection committee a bunch of homers.

Because they didn't get a #1?

Nah.


It makes the #2 in St. Louis very interesting though... could go to one of 3 teams, as opposed to MSU going to the Midwest and OSU going elsewhere.

[the Talking Can]

****ing Commercials.

P.S. After the Selection show, change it to TruTV and they'll reveal how the committee ranked the teams from 1-68 for the first time ever.

cool...thanks for the tip

[Buck]

So...KU, Mizzou, Ohio State, and Duke are our #2s I'm pretty sure.

[alnorth]

That shouldn't matter. Only SLU can't be in the Midwest bracket because they are considered the host tea.

They do consider proximity for the #2 seeds, no one else is closer to Phoenix, and since KU is probably #5, they should be matched up against Michigan State.

KU is going West, but that doesn't necessarily mean anyone else was ranked higher on the 2 line.

[Mosbonian]

my concern is where they will put MU

[the Talking Can]

Missouri got hosed. Selection committee a bunch of homers.

why on earth would Missouri be a #1?

[sedated]

I don't thin KU or mu gets the 2 in the midwest. Wouldn't be fair to UNC.

[Rams Fan]

Alford vs Indiana.

[KChiefer]

With how "Live Broadcast" these unveilings are, it'd be a great opportunity to streak on national TV!

[Al Bundy]

Dook get's a gift I see.

[Rams Fan]

Duke gets to play in North Carolina?

LMAO

[R8RFAN]

BULLSHIT DOOK Gets to play in Greensboro

[tk13]

Alford vs Indiana.

That's New Mexico. IU is playing New Mexico State.

That's a tough matchup... NM State has some big guys down low.

[alnorth]

I don't thin KU or mu gets the 2 in the midwest. Wouldn't be fair to UNC.

They dont care about home court advantage for the #1 and #2 seeds. (unless its literally the home court)

It'll be either Mizzou or OSU

[Rams Fan]

That's New Mexico. IU is playing New Mexico State.

That's a tough matchup... NM State has some big guys down low.

Ah thought it was UNM. My bad.

[Buck]

Jesus Christ I'd hate to be in the South.

[the Talking Can]

wichita state v indiana

interesting matchup

[Bearcat]

West region coming up.


There will be butthurt.

[Buck]

The Pac 12 conference tourney winner didnt even get West

ROFL

[tk13]

That looks like a brutal bracket. Several big name teams who are legit, and then some mid-majors like Wichita State, VCU and NM State that are dangerous.

[Setsuna]

Duke gets to play in North Carolina?

LMAO

BULLSHIT DOOK Gets to play in Greensboro

They got a hard bracket, they won't make it to the 3rd round.

[eazyb81]

Not sure the TV execs can avoid trying to setup another Roy vs ku matchup. It seems like they try for it every year.

[alnorth]

haha, defending champs, then the overall #1 seed?

Good luck, Cyclones.

[KC_Connection]

The best way to beat UK is to have your 3s falling. I think that would be an interesting game if ISU got faced them.

[tredadda]

Soooooooooooooooooo Portland Oregon is part of the South region? Interesting

[Rams Fan]

SLU-MEMPHIS

FUCK YES

[the Talking Can]

i hate baylor, but would love to watch them drop duke

[Rams Fan]

YOU'RE FUCKING KIDDING ME.

[Bearcat]

#butthurt

[Buck]

SO MIZZOU IS THE BEST 2?

[alnorth]

huh?

OK

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[Buck]

oh god west is the weakest bracket i think

[tredadda]

i hate baylor, but would love to watch them drop duke

I could see them do that. Baylor has 7 losses, 5 of which came against MU and KU. They are very, very talented.

[alnorth]

SO MIZZOU IS THE BEST 2?

I think they have to be. For #2 seeds, they go by matchups with location only a secondary concern.

That, or they broke from their seeding principles because they just could not resist a KU-UNC game.

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LET'S GO BILLIKENS.

[eazyb81]

That bracket doesn't look too bad at first glance.

[Bowser]

That, or they broke from their seeding principles because they just could not resist a KU-UNC game.

Would not suprise me in the least.

[Setsuna]

ROFL. That's exactly where Florida belongs.

[Old Dog]

I think it sets up very nicely for Mizzou

[Rams Fan]

FUCK YOU GREG ANTHONY.

I WANT SLU-MIZZOU.

[Buck]

West is fucking weak!

[dirk digler]

I really like MU's bracket

[alnorth]

The plane flight might suck, but travel aside, Mizzou fans should be happy. The bracket is WEAK.

[tredadda]

Mizzou better watch out for that bracket. UF will be a tough second round game. If they win that, they should coast. They match up very, very well against MSU if they are competing for a final four spot.

[the Talking Can]

MU should be happy with that...no bumps the first weekend, i don't think florida can hang with them

[tk13]

Missouri gets a nice draw, I think. But much like the VCU section of the bracket last year... it looks like one that could be complete chaos.

[the Talking Can]

The plane flight might suck, but travel aside, Mizzou fans should be happy. The bracket is WEAK.

compared to the south, definitely

[Setsuna]

Mizzou better watch out for that bracket. UF will be a tough second round game. If they win that, they should coast. They match up very, very well against MSU if they are competing for a final four spot.

You overestimate Florida. We suck dick.

[eazyb81]

Florida is a scary second round game, but if we can get by them I think we should give MSU a game in the regional final.

[tredadda]

MU should be happy with that...no bumps the first weekend, i don't think florida can hang with them

I hope you are right, but my gut says we should be leery of UF.

[Ultra Peanut]

Man. I just. Do not get it.

[tredadda]

You overestimate Florida. We suck dick.

But they are still very talented. They might not be playing up to it, but that does not mean they can't give Mizzou a game.

[the Talking Can]

I hope you are right, but my gut says we should be leery of UF.

sec is a crap conference outside of UK and Vanderbilt is much more dangerous than florida....

[Bearcat]

Florida hasn't done much to impress this season, from what I remember... not an easy 2nd round matchup, by any means, but looks like a good region for MU.

[Dartgod]

Looks like KU gets to lose another game in Missouri.

[Al Bundy]

West Virginia gets a game in it's backyard.

[Rams Fan]

A10 represent.

[Rams Fan]

Texas shouldn't be in.

[Buck]

If SDSU is a 7, our 2nd round matchup is KU....holy shit.

[Wyatt Earp]

Hey KSU went 32-2! Thanks CBS!

[R8RFAN]

If SDSU is a 7, our 2nd round matchup is KU....holy shit.

Who the fuck is SDSU?

[Buck]

Who the fuck is SDSU?

And if we're an 8, you're our 2nd round matchup.

FUCK

[alnorth]

Texas shouldn't be in.

most years, no. This year, yes, easily. The 2012 bubble blew ass, so compared to the garbage heap, Texas was good enough.

[Setsuna]

But they are still very talented. They might not be playing up to it, but that does not mean they can't give Mizzou a game.

They are absolutely talented. But our coach has lost his touch.

[alnorth]

only 3 of these teams are in

NC State
Miami
South Florida
Seton Hall
Northwestern
Cal
Oregon
Washington
Arizona
Ole Miss
Mississippi
Tennessee
Marshall
Oral Roberts
Drexel

[tk13]

most years, no. This year, yes, easily. The 2012 bubble blew ass, so compared to the garbage heap, Texas was good enough.

They could fix this problem if they went to 128 teams!

[Bearcat]

Who the **** is SDSU?

I think they play in Sioux Falls.

[the Talking Can]

i fucking love that we're in Roy's bracket

[Ultra Peanut]

Top 20 RPI
Top 20 SOS
Top 5 OOC SOS
5-6 vs. Top 50
7-1 vs. 51-100
26-8
Conference regular season champions
Conference tournament champions

... 8 seed.

At least the path is reasonably favorable. SLU and MSU will be tough, but there are worse alternatives.

[Rams Fan]

That is a pretty damn good play in game.

[frankotank]

Go BLUE!

[frankotank]

hell yeah! fitting. playing ohio. nice.

[baitism]

Kansas gets Florida State. Would not want....

Or not... did I miss FSU?

[Buck]

Here we go. Please don't be a 7 SDSU

[tredadda]

At least MU gets UF in Omaha, which is a significant home court advantage.

[R8RFAN]

Good Job Carolina Lite

[Al Bundy]

Kansas has an easy draw.

[tk13]

Detroit's pretty good for a 15 seed. That's a tough draw for a 2, Horizon League Champ.

[Rams Fan]

OH NOES BELMONT IS IN THE SAME BRACKET AS KU.

[R8RFAN]

Oh Hell NCSU is not a weak team

[alnorth]

Drexel and Northwestern are BOTH out.

USF somehow got in.

[Bearcat]

OH NOES BELMONT IS IN THE SAME BRACKET AS KU.

They're Seth Davis' sleeper team, so they'll lose in the first round.

[Buck]

THANK GOD

[alnorth]

I have to tentatively agree, KU's half of the bracket doesn't look intimidating