Cassel is poised to have a pretty good year?

[Kylo Ren]

I know everyone hates Cassel here. I neither like him nor hate him. I wanted Luck or RGIII or Manning. But, Cassel is our QB for this year. I think the offense is improving, the defense is improving and the Chiefs are getting 3 key players back. In 2010, Cassel had a pretty good year. This year he'll have a better O-line, WRs and defense. I predict that most of those who are trashing him now will be singing a different tune in December. Again, I don't like Cassel. I don't think he's a great QB. I'd rather have someone else. But, it seems that many are rooting for him to fail. Why? Don't we want the team to succeed? If he takes the team to the playoffs, won't you be happy with that? Or, do you want him to fail so we can draft or sign a mythical player to be named later? Fans always want someone else, but rarely know who. I hope he does good this year. I want a playoff win. On the other hand, if he chokes, maybe we'll get another, better QB next year. But, I'm sick of waiting for next year. I want success for this year. The Chiefs are doing more than I thought they would this year. I'm cautiously optomistic. Cassel is the man..... at least for this season. I hope he has another 2010 season (or better) in 2012. What say you? :hmmm:

[Mr_Tomahawk]

Only read the title.

It ruined my day.

DIAF

[The Franchise]

Hey....you! Yeah.....you. Shut the fuck up and kill yourself.

[Thig Lyfe]

FUCK THIS THREAD

FUCK IT TO HELL

[NJChiefsFan]

Something that would naturally happen to the Chiefs. Have enough talent to make a QB look good, but not in an era when that could get you to a SB. Man that injury to Matt really hurt(us).

[Bewbies]

WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH THIS PLACE?

[Hammock Parties]

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[Exoter175]

He will have a pretty good second half of the season looking at our schedule. I think he'll do a great job holding the clipboard for Stanzi. He might drop a hat or two though.

[007]

LMAO ROFL

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

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[NJChiefsFan]

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ROFLROFL

[SPchief]

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[Mr. Flopnuts]

Peyton Manning.

[SPATCH]

This is insane

[Buckweath]

In a best case scenario, I do believe that Cassell can regain the form he had in 2010. That being said, he was nothing special and actually the very definition of an average QB in 2010. But really, that`s all I hope of him.

The guy can be anything between an average starting QB and the worst starting QB in the league. Let`s hope for the former.

[Bewbies]

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This

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And this

ROFL

[Bewbies]

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[RealSNR]

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[RealSNR]

If I may get serious for a second:

Cassel did NOT have a good year in 2010. Or at least, he was not a good QB in 2010. When he faced pressure and a good defense, he royally fucked up like he always does. Also, even in his "good" games he did his Captain Checkdown shit.

[NJChiefsFan]

If I may get serious for a second:

Cassel did NOT have a good year in 2010. Or at least, he was not a good QB in 2010. When he faced pressure and a good defense, he royally ****ed up like he always does. Also, even in his "good" games he did his Captain Checkdown shit.

Of course. I can't speak for others, but when I say Matt could have a decent year I mean in the eyes of the front office or those that think that only horrible failure justifies giving up on him.

[Carlota69]

I hope Brady Quinn SURPRISES everyone and blows the doors off of Cassel and wins the starting spot. Then I hope hes sooooo good that he is the talk of the NFL, like Cinderella shit, and we win the AFCW and go deep into the playoffs. Of course a SB appearance would also be sweet....

Hey it can happen. Right? Right?
ROFL

[ChiefFripp]

If he is ever going to have a decent year again, this should be it. I'm hoping he shuts us all up.

[Hammock Parties]

I hope Brady Quinn SURPRISES everyone and blows the doors off of Cassel and wins the starting spot. Then I hope hes sooooo good that he is the talk of the NFL, like Cinderella shit, and we win the AFCW and go deep into the playoffs. Of course a SB appearance would also be sweet....

Hey it can happen. Right? Right?
ROFL

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[the Talking Can]

jesus fucking christ i hate pioli with the power of 1000 suns for sticking us with cassel

we're going to have to live with this stupid shit for another full season

[Bowser]

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[MTG#10]

Thats just our luck, he'll be just good enough for Pioli to extend his contract and keep us dwelling in mediocrity for the foreseeable future...

[the Talking Can]

Thats just our luck, he'll be just good enough for Pioli to extend his contract and keep us dwelling in mediocrity for the foreseeable future...

anyone who thinks pioli is getting rid of cassel short of a career ending injury is lying to themselves...

[Bewbies]

Thats just our luck, he'll be just good enough for Pioli to extend his contract and keep us dwelling in mediocrity for the foreseeable future...

I'm pretty sure I saw Cassel slap your kid in the face.

[BossChief]

Our only hope is that he sucks so badly the first few games that they pull him early and give either Quinn or Stanzi some time to right the ship.

I think if Daboll really does want to run a "wide open" offense, we have a great chance at exactly that taking place.

Now that I have dealt with the REALITY of the situation...let's talk fantasy.

Let's say Matt is the type of player that doesn't respond to the type of coaching Haley offered him and that was the prime reason he couldn't succeed here?

Cassel also only two legit targets to throw to in 2010. Bowe and Moe....and he had a decent stretch in there that he DID start to play very well.

He did... discount it...play it off as if it never happened, whatever, but it happened.

Peter King thought he was a MVP candidate.

Last year he lost his running attack, his "crutch" tight end and he didn't have the offseason because it was lost to the lockout.

The receiver they drafted in the first round to bolster the position was injured before the year started and the guy they signed wasn't up to speed in the new system yet...also due to the lockout.

Improvements over the situation last year:

Full offseason
Breaston
Baldwin
Hudson
Winston
Moeaki
Charles
Hillis
Boss

(How was that job playing devils advocate?)

I think it's POSSIBLE that Cassel steps it up a couple notches and gives us something to FAP to, but I don't think it's PROBABLE that he does so.

[MIAdragon]

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[007]

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Thats awesome. LMAO

[prhom]

anyone who thinks pioli is getting rid of cassel short of a career ending injury is lying to themselves...

Probably, I mean who would think that his performance over the last three seasons would have earned him the de facto starting QB spot? Yet here we are. I still prefer to think that somehow Pioli will realize that Cassel will never have a mastery of the position. Its easier to swallow than thinking about him getting a contract extension next year.

[whoman69]

Past history tends to tell us Cassel is nothing special. He can be ok when facing poor competition.

Past history also tells us we haven't been to the Super Bowl in 42 seasons.

[whoman69]

Probably, I mean who would think that his performance over the last three seasons would have earned him the de facto starting QB spot? Yet here we are. I still prefer to think that somehow Pioli will realize that Cassel will never have a mastery of the position. Its easier to swallow than thinking about him getting a contract extension next year.

Bank it.

[KCDC]

The odds favor him returning to 2010 form as 2010 personnel are back, plus improvements.

[L.A. Chieffan]

CASSEL SUPPORTERS UNITE!

[Predarat]

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[bevischief]

Our only hope is that he sucks so badly the first few games that they pull him early and give either Quinn or Stanzi some time to right the ship.

I think if Daboll really does want to run a "wide open" offense, we have a great chance at exactly that taking place.

Now that I have dealt with the REALITY of the situation...let's talk fantasy.

Let's say Matt is the type of player that doesn't respond to the type of coaching Haley offered him and that was the prime reason he couldn't succeed here?

Cassel also only two legit targets to throw to in 2010. Bowe and Moe....and he had a decent stretch in there that he DID start to play very well.

He did... discount it...play it off as if it never happened, whatever, but it happened.

Peter King thought he was a MVP candidate.

Last year he lost his running attack, his "crutch" tight end and he didn't have the offseason because it was lost to the lockout.

The receiver they drafted in the first round to bolster the position was injured before the year started and the guy they signed wasn't up to speed in the new system yet...also due to the lockout.

Improvements over the situation last year:

Full offseason
Breaston
Baldwin
Hudson
Winston
Moeaki
Charles
Hillis
Boss

(How was that job playing devils advocate?)

I think it's POSSIBLE that Cassel steps it up a couple notches and gives us something to FAP to, but I don't think it's PROBABLE that he does so.

This about as far as I will go with this line of thinking in this thread...

[munkey]

Our only hope is that he sucks so badly the first few games that they pull him early and give either Quinn or Stanzi some time to right the ship.

I think if Daboll really does want to run a "wide open" offense, we have a great chance at exactly that taking place.

Now that I have dealt with the REALITY of the situation...let's talk fantasy.

Let's say Matt is the type of player that doesn't respond to the type of coaching Haley offered him and that was the prime reason he couldn't succeed here?

Cassel also only two legit targets to throw to in 2010. Bowe and Moe....and he had a decent stretch in there that he DID start to play very well.

He did... discount it...play it off as if it never happened, whatever, but it happened.

Peter King thought he was a MVP candidate.

Last year he lost his running attack, his "crutch" tight end and he didn't have the offseason because it was lost to the lockout.

The receiver they drafted in the first round to bolster the position was injured before the year started and the guy they signed wasn't up to speed in the new system yet...also due to the lockout.

Improvements over the situation last year:

Full offseason
Breaston
Baldwin
Hudson
Winston
Moeaki
Charles
Hillis
Boss

(How was that job playing devils advocate?)

I think it's POSSIBLE that Cassel steps it up a couple notches and gives us something to FAP to, but I don't think it's PROBABLE that he does so.

This...Pioli is NOT going admit failure...he will ride this out. If anything I predict if the Chiefs don't make the playoffs this year he and Cassel are done...

[Chiefnj2]

What bothers me the most about Cassel is that his last 4 games before the injury sucked horribly. He should have been peaking and getting comfortable but he was regressing.

5 OCs in 5 years, he's shot. Andrew Luck wouldn't succeed in such a situation.

[Coogs]

I know everyone hates Cassel here. I neither like him nor hate him. I wanted Luck or RGIII or Manning. But, Cassel is our QB for this year. I think the offense is improving, the defense is improving and the Chiefs are getting 3 key players back. In 2010, Cassel had a pretty good year. This year he'll have a better O-line, WRs and defense. I predict that most of those who are trashing him now will be singing a different tune in December. Again, I don't like Cassel. I don't think he's a great QB. I'd rather have someone else. But, it seems that many are rooting for him to fail. Why? Don't we want the team to succeed? If he takes the team to the playoffs, won't you be happy with that? Or, do you want him to fail so we can draft or sign a mythical player to be named later? Fans always want someone else, but rarely know who. I hope he does good this year. I want a playoff win. On the other hand, if he chokes, maybe we'll get another, better QB next year. But, I'm sick of waiting for next year. I want success for this year. The Chiefs are doing more than I thought they would this year. I'm cautiously optomistic. Cassel is the man..... at least for this season. I hope he has another 2010 season (or better) in 2012. What say you? :hmmm:

Better O-line... check
Better RB... check
Better WR's... Has Bowe signed?
Better defense... Up for debate. Lost Carr. Have Berry back, but is he the same? DC becomes HC.

[BossChief]

5 OCs in 5 years, he's shot. Andrew Luck wouldn't succeed in such a situation.
:facepalm:

[Coogs]

What bothers me the most about Cassel is that his last 4 games before the injury sucked horribly. He should have been peaking and getting comfortable but he was regressing.

5 OCs in 5 years, he's shot. Andrew Luck wouldn't succeed in such a situation.

Damn I hate this 5 OC's in 5 years thing! Orton had nearly the same damn scenario (I'm not going to look it up, but Bears... several at Denver... on to KC), and he looked 10 times better than Cassel ever thought of looking after only a couple of weeks.

[stonedstooge]

When Casshole was injured, the first thought by many was that it was a faked to get him out of there. His games each week progressively got more horrid

[FringeNC]

A good game for Cassel's is 8 out of 12 for 100 yards and a TD pass. QB rating is completely deceiving in that case.

[Agent V]

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[Lbedrock1]

I know everyone hates Cassel here. I neither like him nor hate him. I wanted Luck or RGIII or Manning. But, Cassel is our QB for this year. I think the offense is improving, the defense is improving and the Chiefs are getting 3 key players back. In 2010, Cassel had a pretty good year. This year he'll have a better O-line, WRs and defense. I predict that most of those who are trashing him now will be singing a different tune in December. Again, I don't like Cassel. I don't think he's a great QB. I'd rather have someone else. But, it seems that many are rooting for him to fail. Why? Don't we want the team to succeed? If he takes the team to the playoffs, won't you be happy with that? Or, do you want him to fail so we can draft or sign a mythical player to be named later? Fans always want someone else, but rarely know who. I hope he does good this year. I want a playoff win. On the other hand, if he chokes, maybe we'll get another, better QB next year. But, I'm sick of waiting for next year. I want success for this year. The Chiefs are doing more than I thought they would this year. I'm cautiously optomistic. Cassel is the man..... at least for this season. I hope he has another 2010 season (or better) in 2012. What say you? :hmmm:

I most definitely hope you are right. If he turns the corner I will be his biggest fan, but I will also be his biggest critic if he messes up.

[Kylo Ren]

Again, I am not a Cassel fan, but I do think many on this thread will be eating crow about Cassel this season. Personally, I'd like to see what Stanzi can do. But, I doubt that'll happen this year. I guess we can get a glimpse of his abilities in the preseason.

[Bewbies]

I most definitely hope you are right. If he turns the corner I will be his biggest fan, but I will also be his biggest critic if he messes up.

I guess you haven't watched him before?

[HemiEd]

I am so sick of hearing about Cassel's good 2010, he sucked then, just like he does now, if you actually watched the games. Yeah, if you only read the stats it looks decent, but he wasn't.

He had one good game, and it was against Seattle.

[Chiefnj2]

Damn I hate this 5 OC's in 5 years thing! Orton had nearly the same damn scenario (I'm not going to look it up, but Bears... several at Denver... on to KC), and he looked 10 times better than Cassel ever thought of looking after only a couple of weeks.

Until he got in the red zone. Plus his production dropped every single week. Teams had film of him in KC's system.

[mlyonsd]

Seeing what he'll get paid for doing what he does I'd say there is no question he is in for a good year.

[Carlota69]

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I Love tequila!!!!!:D

[RealSNR]

Again, I am not a Cassel fan, but I do think many on this thread will be eating crow about Cassel this season. Personally, I'd like to see what Stanzi can do. But, I doubt that'll happen this year. I guess we can get a glimpse of his abilities in the preseason.Is Cassel going to do something he has never done in his short career and not shit himself against pressure, or even when he has only 3 seconds to find an outlet down the field and deliver? You have no reason to believe that he will.

Again, if he comes out of nowhere this year and suddenly figures it out, good for him. I'll be behind him. I have absolutely no reason to believe he will, though.

[bricks]

**** it. I hate him. You know why? Because he sets this franchise back. He doesn't make us better, he limits our success. He's had 4 years in the league to prove himself, and all he really is a mediocre to slightly above average QB.

The best he has done is a 90 QB rating with 27TDs and 7INTs. Good numbers, dont get me wrong, but that is not in the class of the elite. And this was under an excellent OC in Weiss. What makes you think he will get better? Or will be poised to have a good season?

He rarely throws for 300 yards a game, ever! That alone is enough to convince me. And he cant duke it out in a strike for strike match against good passing teams This is no coincidence why we ain't a come from behind team. Because we don't the QB to rally us in the passing game. Like I said, he limits us in terms of success. He doesn't make us a multidimensional team on offense.

And you know what I'm really tired of? How this team tries to mask his weaknesses. **** it. That's not going to do anything. If the QB doesn't have the skill set nor the intelligence to play the position, what difference is bettering your team going to make? He is what he is. And this fat **** of our GM fails to realize this and diligently tries to protect his cutesy little golden boy....awwwww.

*And he will continue to make excuses like, "hey we are going to create competition at QB. If Peyton Manning was here, he'd be competing. GTFO We know Cassel is the starter and "competition" is just a coverup.

In tired of the bullshit. I want an elite QB. I'm raising my standards and not settling for this crap. But I know Pioli will do what he can to try to make him succeed and failing to realize that his experiment failed. It's time for a new breath of fresh air ONLY if our goddamn general manager can get his head out of ass and face the facts.

[jspchief]

Awesome. He'll guide us to the regular season trophy based on surrounding talent propping him up.

Then in the post season, where QB play elevates teams and separates winners and losers, we'll be sitting on our couches cursing another 1 and done.

[Ming the Merciless]

Yes He is.

Pro Bowl Or Bust

[Baby Lee]

But, it seems that many are rooting for him to fail. Why? Don't we want the team to succeed? If he takes the team to the playoffs, won't you be happy with that? Or, do you want him to fail so we can draft or sign a mythical player to be named later?

There is a difference between hoping he fails and having seen sufficient evidence to know he WILL fail.

Might as well hope that Andy Dick stays sober for the rest of his life, or Rush Limbaugh never says anything controversial ever again.

I don't dislike him as a person. He has everything you could want in a QB, except sufficient talent to play the position in the NFL. I deeply hate that he is the starting QB for the Kansas City Chiefs, and thus is wasting the efforts of truly talented teammates.

[Molitoth]

If he takes the team to the playoffs, won't you be happy with that?
Not really if we get our asses stomped int he first round.

and First of all, Cassel better play well this season with the way this team is stacked with talent. Cassel will prove this season to everyone that he sucks a giant turd.

[Thig Lyfe]

Again, I am not a Cassel fan, but I do think many on this thread will be eating crow about Cassel this season. Personally, I'd like to see what Stanzi can do. But, I doubt that'll happen this year. I guess we can get a glimpse of his abilities in the preseason.

Fuck you!!!!!!

[ThatRaceCardGuy]

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Exactly

[Nightfyre]

Someone should edit the thread title. We wouldn't want all the arrowhead pride and WPI people flooding us with the mistaken perception that we suddenly got soft.

[Ming the Merciless]

Yesss.....HATE HIM....

Hate Mark Castle.....Talk a bunch of shit, and then watch him cruise to the pro bowl.

Give in to your hate, so that the rest of us can have people to mock and laugh at.

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/images/users/uploads/20549/butthurt.jpg

[hometeam]

Only read the title.

It ruined my day.

DIAF

this

[Bewbies]

Yesss.....HATE HIM....

Hate Mark Castle.....Talk a bunch of shit, and then watch him cruise to the pro bowl.

Give in to your hate, so that the rest of us can have people to mock and laugh at.

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/images/users/uploads/20549/butthurt.jpg

LMAO

It's the folks that think Cassel sucks that are the one's everyone laughs at.

[Ming the Merciless]

LMAO

It's the folks that think Cassel sucks that are the one's everyone laughs at.

>implying the most vocal 5% = "everyone"

[Nightfyre]

>implying the most vocal 5% = "everyone"

Matt Cassel fucking sucks. The way defenses treat Cassel is far more of an indictment than anything anyone on chiefsplanet can say. When Cassel is in, they just man up and stack safeties in the box, because Cassel doesn't have the arm strength to go over the top, doesn't have the brains to read the defense, and doesn't have the accuracy to make defenses pay. And he holds on to the ball for ten years, which is compounded by the fact that he shits his pants when faced with a blitz, even when he knows its coming.

[BossChief]

Personally, I'd like to see what Stanzi can do. But, I doubt that'll happen this year. I guess we can get a glimpse of his abilities in the preseason.
Stanzi will destroy worlds in preseason and still not get a chance to start.

LMAO

It's the folks that think Cassel sucks that are the one's everyone laughs at.
LOLWUT

[Baby Lee]

Matt Cassel fucking sucks. The way defenses treat Cassel is far more of an indictment than anything anyone on chiefsplanet can say. When Cassel is in, they just man up and stack safeties in the box, because Cassel doesn't have the arm strength to go over the top, doesn't have the brains to read the defense, and doesn't have the accuracy to make defenses pay. And he holds on to the ball for ten years, which is compounded by the fact that he shits his pants when faced with a blitz, even when he knows its coming.

It's like defenders are immune to his moose ears protection spell.

[Ming the Merciless]

Matt Cassel ****ing sucks. The way defenses treat Cassel is far more of an indictment than anything anyone on chiefsplanet can say. When Cassel is in, they just man up and stack safeties in the box, because Cassel doesn't have the arm strength to go over the top, doesn't have the brains to read the defense, and doesn't have the accuracy to make defenses pay. And he holds on to the ball for ten years, which is compounded by the fact that he shits his pants when faced with a blitz, even when he knows its coming.

Way to give up before the season even starts....I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that not too many people refer to you as a tough guy or macho. I'm guessing you are emo, goth or perhaps crust.

[RealSNR]

Way to give up before the season even starts....I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that not too many people refer to you as a tough guy or macho. I'm guessing you are emo, goth or perhaps crust.You're right. We can't give up on Cassel now! He might learn how to properly play QB any year now!

Hey, while we're at it why did we cut Palko and Croyle? It's like we just gave up on them before the next season even started!

[Baby Lee]

Way to give up before the season even starts....I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that not too many people refer to you as a tough guy or macho. I'm guessing you are emo, goth or perhaps crust.

The collective goodwill and fervent hopes of the entire planet would not make Cassel one bit better than he is in reality.

[Ming the Merciless]

You're right. We can't give up on Cassel now! He might learn how to properly play QB any year now!



I'm guessing he plays more like an improved 2010 cassel instead of shit 2011 cassel.....

Thats all I am saying.

Thats all I am hoping...

We got pretty screwed by injuries, weiss leaving, shortened off season etc....in 2011.

I mean it looks like we are stuck with this situation any how, might as well roll with it, rather that cry like a little bitch.

[Bewbies]

I'm guessing he plays more like an improved 2010 cassel instead of shit 2011 cassel.....

Thats all I am saying.

Thats all I am hoping...

We got pretty screwed by injuries, weiss leaving, shortened off season etc....in 2011.

I mean it looks like we are stuck with this situation any how, might as well roll with it, rather that cry like a little bitch.

He's gonna be the QB we saw against Seattle!! Not the one we saw in 2009, 16 other games in 2010, and 2011 before he got hurt. We are set bitches!!

[Thig Lyfe]

I'm guessing he plays more like an improved 2010 cassel instead of shit 2011 cassel.....

Thats all I am saying.

Thats all I am hoping...

We got pretty screwed by injuries, weiss leaving, shortened off season etc....in 2011.

I mean it looks like we are stuck with this situation any how, might as well roll with it, rather that cry like a little bitch.

Once again, "improved" 2010 Cassel was just shit 2011 Cassel in disguise.

[Bewbies]

I take that back, Cassel wasn't bad last year in the second half against Indy.

[Ming the Merciless]

IOW Yes, he could have a good year......

Anyone who says it is impossible for him to have a good year is wrong IMO.

Certainly, if you look at it from a distance he is poised to have a much better season that last year, IF we sign D Bowe back.

[RealSNR]

I'm guessing he plays more like an improved 2010 cassel instead of shit 2011 cassel.....

Thats all I am saying.

Thats all I am hoping...

We got pretty screwed by injuries, weiss leaving, shortened off season etc....in 2011.

I mean it looks like we are stuck with this situation any how, might as well roll with it, rather that cry like a little bitch.I don't want any version of 2010 Cassel. I want a real QB who won't shit his pants in the playoffs just because it's Baltimore.

Hell, I want a QB who won't shit his pants just because it's fucking Oakland at the end of the season.

2010 Cassel is still Cassel 1.0. I was hoping last season Cassel could become Cassel 2.0, but he didn't. Therefore, I'm done. I don't see a Jim Harbaugh on this staff, and I don't see how Cassel is not going to be his usual soft bitch pussy dickless self quivering in the pocket when pressure comes his way. Maybe he got some glasses this year and can now find the open guy downfield? Who knows.

All I know is if he does actually become a good QB this year, it will be an unprecedented miracle.

[Bewbies]

IOW Yes, he could have a good year......

Anyone who says it is impossible for him to have a good year is wrong IMO.

Certainly, if you look at it from a distance he is poised to have a much better season that last year, IF we sign D Bowe back.

He'll be good about the same time John Edwards has a reputation.

[MotherfuckerJones]

He better have a damn good year with all this talent around him!! No more excuses matt

[Coogs]

Until he got in the red zone. Plus his production dropped every single week. Teams had film of him in KC's system.

JFC nj! He hardly knew the guys in KC. Bowe dropped a sure TD... easy catch. So did the RB from Baltimore... tough catch. Several questionable running play calls in the redzone too.

I'm still a bud of yours nj, but the OC thing does not fly with me.

[Nightfyre]

Way to give up before the season even starts....I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that not too many people refer to you as a tough guy or macho. I'm guessing you are emo, goth or perhaps crust.

I should give up before the season starts. Cassel isn't taking us anywhere. And with the personalysis... WHIFF. I am not macho but I am not emo, goth or crust.

[BossChief]

You know what would be SWEET?

Bowe holds out for 4 weeks and in that span, Cassel gets pulled.

Stanzi takes over and almost simultaneously Bowe is signed.

StanziMania begins to overwhelm all of us.

profit.

[Ming the Merciless]

I should give up before the season starts.

Yes , you should. It would be consistent with your personality.

[BossChief]

oh, yeah...I remember this part.

This is when pawnmower defends Mark Castles honor every time he is mentioned for a few months and then, when Cassel begins to suck donkey cock again, he claims that none of it ever happened.

Can we turn the channel, cause I don't want to watch this show again. Its boring and predictable and has a terrible ending.

[Epic Fail 007]

One thing about cassel. Most of you bash him here because its the easy thing to to do. Yes he has struggled but has shown promise at times. Look at this why essentially hes a 4th yr qb going into his 5th who has had a different oc since he has been in kc. That in itself is not fair to a player to ask him to learn a new system every year. Of course Im going to get the brainless idiots come back at me with CASSEL SUCKS or some stupid shit like that. Whatever be stupid. Fact is cassels in the league because he has some skills. And don`t be stupid if he was released someone would pick him up unlike palko.

[Nightfyre]

One thing about cassel. Most of you bash him here because its the easy thing to to do. Yes he has struggled but has shown promise at times. Look at this why essentially hes a 4th yr qb going into his 5th who has had a different oc since he has been in kc. That in itself is not fair to a player to ask him to learn a new system every year. Of course Im going to get the brainless idiots come back at me with CASSEL SUCKS or some stupid shit like that. Whatever be stupid. Fact is cassels in the league because he has some skills. And don`t be stupid if he was released someone would pick him up unlike palko.

Cassel sucks. Yes, someone would pick him up... to be their Backup. Cassel has not shown promise in three years as a Chief. That is all.

[Bewbies]

One thing about cassel. Most of you bash him here because its the easy thing to to do. Yes he has struggled but has shown promise at times. Look at this why essentially hes a 4th yr qb going into his 5th who has had a different oc since he has been in kc. That in itself is not fair to a player to ask him to learn a new system every year. Of course Im going to get the brainless idiots come back at me with CASSEL SUCKS or some stupid shit like that. Whatever be stupid. Fact is cassels in the league because he has some skills. And don`t be stupid if he was released someone would pick him up unlike palko.

Poor guy.

[RealSNR]

One thing about cassel. Most of you bash him here because its the easy thing to to do. Yes he has struggled but has shown promise at times. Look at this why essentially hes a 4th yr qb going into his 5th who has had a different oc since he has been in kc. That in itself is not fair to a player to ask him to learn a new system every year. Of course Im going to get the brainless idiots come back at me with CASSEL SUCKS or some stupid shit like that. Whatever be stupid. Fact is cassels in the league because he has some skills. And don`t be stupid if he was released someone would pick him up unlike palko.Good quarterbacks go into unstable coaching situations all the goddamn time. Look at Kyle Orton. A new coach every season for HIM doesn't seem to matter much, does it? He still knows how to throw accurately. Cassel doesn't.

Just accept that in order to win a Super Bowl you need a good QB. Good QBs don't make excuses like, "My OC got changed up on me every offseason." You either have the talent to at least demonstrate you've got the skills or you don't. Cassel has never once demonstrated his ability in that regard.

[Baby Lee]

oh, yeah...I remember this part.

This is when pawnmower defends Mark Castles honor every time he is mentioned for a few months and then, when Cassel begins to suck donkey cock again, he claims that none of it ever happened.

Can we turn the channel, cause I don't want to watch this show again. Its boring and predictable and has a terrible ending.

Hold out for the pics developmentally challenged people, the homo talk suggests it's not too far away.

[kcxiv]

http://gifsoup.com/view1/2381892/mike-ross-n-gootecks-rofl-o.gif

[kcxiv]

I take that back, Cassel wasn't bad last year in the second half against Indy.

Yeah, he came back against the Worst team in the NFL. Goooo Matty! bleh.

[L.A. Chieffan]

No one can root for cassel ever if you bashed and said he sucks. When cassel starts the season 6-0 you have to just cry in your Cheerios us REAL fans are going to be laughing

[Bewbies]

No one can root for cassel ever if you bashed and said he sucks. When cassel starts the season 6-0 you have to just cry in your Cheerios us REAL fans are going to be laughing

Deal.

And when his ass gets cut you get the fuck out of here.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

He is a Franchise kind of guy!!!!

[splatbass]

I hope Brady Quinn SURPRISES everyone and blows the doors off of Cassel and wins the starting spot. Then I hope hes sooooo good that he is the talk of the NFL, like Cinderella shit, and we win the AFCW and go deep into the playoffs. Of course a SB appearance would also be sweet....

Hey it can happen. Right? Right?
ROFL

You never know. One year ago did anyone think that Alex Smith would take the 49ers to the NFC Championship?

[Tombstone RJ]

<a href='http://gifsforum.com/gif/26483'><img src='http://gifsforum.com/images/gif/owned/grand/46993945-owned_gif.gif' alt='owned owned'></a>

wow, that's like boom goes the dynamite...

[BigMeatballDave]

Shitbag poised to look like a queer?

[BossChief]

One thing about cassel. Most of you bash him here because its the easy thing to to do. Yes he has struggled but has shown promise at times. Look at this why essentially hes a 4th yr qb going into his 5th who has had a different oc since he has been in kc. That in itself is not fair to a player to ask him to learn a new system every year. Of course Im going to get the brainless idiots come back at me with CASSEL SUCKS or some stupid shit like that. Whatever be stupid. Fact is cassels in the league because he has some skills. And don`t be stupid if he was released someone would pick him up unlike palko.

Whenever you quit doing drugs, you should come back to ChiefsPlanet and go back through some of your old posts.

I'm sure you'll get a good laugh from them.

Oh BTW, he has been in the exact same "system" since he was drafted by Pioli back in 2005...might want to try and do some research or have a clue what you are talking about before you post here.

Otherwise, expect people to call you a "ratard" ala hangover

[Blick]

BEST YEAR YET!

Seriously, with the team we have now, there isn't any reason why he shouldn't have a year like he did in 2010 or 2008 with New England.

If he could just get his completion % above 60 like he did in NE, then we might be pretty good.

[Hammock Parties]

Throw in the NFC West schedule Cassel took advantage of in 2008 and 2010 and Blick would be cumming hard all season long.

[ChiefsCountry]

Cassel blows and I have hated him since they traded for his worthless ass.
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[Chiefnj2]

Good quarterbacks go into unstable coaching situations all the goddamn time. Look at Kyle Orton. A new coach every season for HIM doesn't seem to matter much, does it? He still knows how to throw accurately.

The guy is a career backup and is now a backup in Dallas. If he were half as good as people on this board seem to think he is he would have been contending for a starting position in Seattle, San Fran or Miami.

[RealSNR]

The guy is a career backup and is now a backup in Dallas. If he were half as good as people on this board seem to think he is he would have been contending for a starting position in Seattle, San Fran or Miami.I'm talking about his skills as a QB. He still knows how to throw an accurate ball. He always has.

Cassel has never been able to throw an accurate ball. Consistent offensive coaching ain't gonna change that.

[htismaqe]

The guy is a career backup and is now a backup in Dallas. If he were half as good as people on this board seem to think he is he would have been contending for a starting position in Seattle, San Fran or Miami.

This.

[htismaqe]

BEST YEAR YET!

Seriously, with the team we have now, there isn't any reason why he shouldn't have a year like he did in 2010 or 2008 with New England.

If he could just get his completion % above 60 like he did in NE, then we might be pretty good.

5.5 yards per attempt isn't gonna cut it.

[Chiefnj2]

I'm talking about his skills as a QB. He still knows how to throw an accurate ball. He always has.

Cassel has never been able to throw an accurate ball. Consistent offensive coaching ain't gonna change that.

You are seriously overestimating Orton. He had a good game against Green Bay. No doubt. But, it isn't uncommon for a backup player to come in and play well his first game. It happens all the time because there isn't a lot of tape on the guy as a starter in a new system.

His numbers went down across the board in the three games he played.

1 - 74%, 9.65 avg
2 - 58%, 8.33 avg
3 - 52% 6.21 avg

[splatbass]

The guy is a career backup and is now a backup in Dallas. If he were half as good as people on this board seem to think he is he would have been contending for a starting position in Seattle, San Fran or Miami.

While I agree with your point that he should be a backup, someone that has started 53 games in his career can't really be called a career backup.

[Fire Me Boy!]

Someone should "car door" him.

[Bewbies]

Someone should "car door" him.

MGT#10 needs to go a few rounds with him.

[BoneKrusher]

When cassel starts the season 6-0 you have to just cry in your Cheerios


if he starts the season 6-0 it'll be 6 ints and 0 TDs.

[baitism]

Cassel will continue to regress as he did last season. Dude isn't getting any younger and his composure under pressure is Huard-esqe

[Chris Meck]

I'm not going to look through all the responses, so I apologize if this is a repost, but:

"Cassel" and "poised" should never be in the same sentence.

[chasedude]

No need to read through this thread... more Cassel bashing.

[RealSNR]

You are seriously overestimating Orton. He had a good game against Green Bay. No doubt. But, it isn't uncommon for a backup player to come in and play well his first game. It happens all the time because there isn't a lot of tape on the guy as a starter in a new system.

His numbers went down across the board in the three games he played.

1 - 74%, 9.65 avg
2 - 58%, 8.33 avg
3 - 52% 6.21 avgYou don't understand the argument.

Orton has at least once in his career had a legitimately good game. I'm not talking about throwing to wide open WRs after 7 seconds of pressureless protection. I'm not talking about throwing to Wes Welker and Randy fucking Moss, either. He has had a few games where he WAS the QB, and it was because of his skills that the team won. I'm not even talking about his average. He's done it at least ONCE. Hell, he did it once in three games for the Chiefs with a brand new team and a brand new offense in his first start. All this bullshit about "WAAAAH! SOMEBODY GET CASSEL SOME CONSISTENT OFFENSIVE COORDINATORS!" is pure bullshit. Brady changes his offensive coordinators plenty often. Shit doesn't happen to him. Like I said, the coaches don't mean shit. Either a QB has it or he doesn't. A fucking coach isn't going to help that or take it away.

Cassel has never and will never have that kind of game. Not until he learns how to spot an open receiver at least 20 yards downfield in under 2 seconds, get a hang of the timing, and complete the throw. Right now he doesn't do any of that shit. And at 29 years old (or however old he is) it's highly doubtful that he ever will learn.

[Kylo Ren]

Many here are going to eat crow about Cassel this season. I just think he'll bounce back this year.

[Nightfyre]

Many here are going to eat crow about Cassel this season. I just think he'll bounce back this year.

Bounce back? That implies he was somewhere acceptable before. He never has been.

[Blick]

5.5 yards per attempt isn't gonna cut it.

No kidding.

But with the addition of Winston, Cassel will have a more comfortable pocket in which to take chances. We could see Cassel take more shots down the field, and with Baldwin, Bowe, Moeaki, and Boss, we have the big, athletic targets to adjust to poorly thrown balls.

[whoman69]

No kidding.

But with the addition of Winston, Cassel will have a more comfortable pocket in which to take chances. We could see Cassel take more shots down the field, and with Baldwin, Bowe, Moeaki, and Boss, we have the big, athletic targets to adjust to poorly thrown balls.

Keep piling on the excuses for Check Down. Cassel just doesn't know how to slide his protections. In 9 games he was sacked 22 times last year. In the other 7 games we gave up 12 sacks including only 1 in the last 3. Cassel is always given his excuses. He just cannot execute to the level needed to propel an NFL team to a championship.

[BigMeatballDave]

In all seriousness, if this team stays healthy, they should win 11 games.

With Cassel.

With a good QB, 13-14 wins and a SB threat.

[Hammock Parties]

In all seriousness, if this team stays healthy, they should win 11 games.

With Cassel.

With a good QB, 13-14 wins and a SB threat.

ROFL

Have you seen the schedule?

Cassel is going to be our achilles heel against all these good teams.

We have the worst QB in the division, too. 3-3 would be a shock.

[Blick]

Keep piling on the excuses for Check Down. Cassel just doesn't know how to slide his protections. In 9 games he was sacked 22 times last year. In the other 7 games we gave up 12 sacks including only 1 in the last 3. Cassel is always given his excuses. He just cannot execute to the level needed to propel an NFL team to a championship.

I don't make excuses for him, I'm just realistic. With better players around him, he'll play better. That's just common sense. I don't like him, either. I don't think the Chiefs will win anything with him, either.

Like Milkman said, Cassel's deficiencies will be masked. If his deficiencies are masked, he'll put up numbers that are better than he actually is as a QB.

[Chief3188]

Keep piling on the excuses for Check Down. Cassel just doesn't know how to slide his protections. In 9 games he was sacked 22 times last year. In the other 7 games we gave up 12 sacks including only 1 in the last 3. Cassel is always given his excuses. He just cannot execute to the level needed to propel an NFL team to a championship.

I agree with you on Cassel and his protections. It was downright pathetic last year when I saw the lowly Palko getting up to the line and getting people in place much better than our 29 year old QB.

Not to mention Cassel has the worst pocket awareness of any Chiefs QB I can remember watching so that doesn't exactly help captain panic shit pants casshole in that regard either.

[Chief3188]

I don't make excuses for him, I'm just realistic. With better players around him, he'll play better. That's just common sense. I don't like him, either. I don't think the Chiefs will win anything with him, either.

Like Milkman said, Cassel's deficiencies will be masked. If his deficiencies are masked, he'll put up numbers that are better than he actually is as a QB.

I just don't see it. Cassel's play will have more to do with who he is facing rather than who we surround him with. Cassel can have the best of everything but if he is playing an elite to even good defense more times than not he will shit the bed right then and there regardless if we had Randy Moss in his prime running free down the sideline or Chris Chambers. He will just panic and not see his open receivers and do one of 3 things.

1. Throw the ball away

2. Throw it to safety valve regardless if he is open or has room to run with it on 3rd and 7 as he makes it about 3 or 4 yards before being group tackled.

3. Get happy feet and turn his head left and right too fast to be seeing anything and turn and run right into a defenders open arms for a free sack.

These 3 things have been the cornerstone of Cassel's game since he has gotten here. He has little to no redeeming qualities on the field and he should have had any chance of being the starter here removed by now.

[BigMeatballDave]

ROFL

Have you seen the schedule?

Cassel is going to be our achilles heel against all these good teams.

We have the worst QB in the division, too. 3-3 would be a shock.

Yes. Cassel is shit.

The rest of the team is quite good.

11-5

[Hammock Parties]

Yes. Cassel is shit.

The rest of the team is quite good.

11-5

ROFL

We won't win 10 games, I guarantee it.

[O.city]

We have enough talent that we could stay in games and get lucky to win 10.


I don't see it happening though.

[Hammock Parties]

We have the worst QB in the division.

We also play: Pittsburgh, New Orleans, Tampa Bay, Atlanta, Baltimore and Cincinnati.

And personally I'm not looking forward to playing Carolina or Buffalo, which is a road game.

We're FUCKED.

[BigMeatballDave]

11 wins.

Bank on it.

I am...

[Hammock Parties]

11 wins.

Bank on it.

I am...

You're betting money on the Chiefs? LMAO

[Hammock Parties]

Do you dumb fucks not even realize Cassel's history?

He has ONE win over a playoff team for his Chiefs career.

[O.city]

I really think we are talented enough to beat the better teams of the league.



Cassel is gonna have to do something though. Damn, this is sickening to think about.

[Hammock Parties]

I really think we are talented enough to beat the better teams of the league.


Is our quarterback Matt Cassel?

If yes, the answer is no, we're not.

[O.city]

I would stack our roster up against nearly any in the league.



Save for the qb spot, which is likely the most important spot on the field and in the NFL.

[Thaddeus_Eugenia]

I have stated in the sister of this thread that our Castle will stand strong. God is thine, mine is thine, we shall see. I'm on my knees.

[splatbass]

I have stated in the sister of this thread that our Castle will stand strong. God is thine, mine is thine, we shall see. I'm on my knees.

Good for you. :eek:

[Thaddeus_Eugenia]

Good for you. :eek:

Matt is my favorite name, seven is my favorite number, and Cassel is my favorite quarterback.

[splatbass]

Matt is my favorite name, seven is my favorite number, and Cassel is my favorite quarterback.

Forget to take your meds tonight?

[tmw4h5]

Matt Cassel, with a solid running game an a top-notch offensive line can lead us to a 10-win season.

If Manning gets injured, it's lolHanie time.

Matt Cassel, with a great running game, a great offensive line, and a coordinator who is decent, can lead us to an 11-win season.


wat.

[Thaddeus_Eugenia]

Forget to take your meds tonight?

Ho! We will line the offensive in the year of 2012, Charles will carry the rock while hillis holds the stones firm. The tight Hawaiaain end will hold on while Cassel grips it tight, the offense will be lined and hard, and the Chiefs will play good enough for Super Bowl.

It is my dream, for the Chiefs of Kansas City.

[cdcox]

If he takes the team to the playoffs, won't you be happy with that?

Not even close. I want a franchise QB. With a franchise QB and this roster I would be disappointed with anything less than winning the SB.

My desire to get rid of Cassel at the end of the 2010 season was greater than at the beginning of 2010. His two worst games of 2010 were the two that mattered the most.

In 2011 he regressed from a house of cards that collapses under the slightest breeze to a wad of chewing gum on the bottom of my shoe. Now if he makes a new house of cards we are supposed to eat crow? Really? Really?

People amaze me.

[Hammock Parties]

People amaze me.

We've been eating shit for so long we've developed a taste for it.

Doesn't take much to make us happy.

[Thaddeus_Eugenia]

We've been eating shit for so long we've developed a taste for it.

Doesn't take much to make us happy.

Matt Cassel will surprise you, you will see, you will remember, Pro Bowl?

[Hammock Parties]

Matt Cassel will surprise you, you will see, you will remember, Pro Bowl?

http://uranus.ckt.net/~gochiefs/black3.gif

[ChiefFripp]

Send neg rep my way , but I'm on the Cassel bandwagon! Let's see what you can do son!

[jspchief]

With our improvements to the Oline, maybe Thomas Jones can come back and be poised to have a good year as well.

[RealSNR]

Hey guys, I think these Cassel fans are right. I'm looking at his 2010 numbers, and I see his Pro Bowl. You all watch. Cassel will play pretty well this year.

Also, you guys better watch the lottery. I'm winning it this year. I just got a feeling. I bought like, 100 tickets and didn't win anything. I know that in the next few I buy I'm bound to hit the jackpot. Just you wait.

Lastly, watch out for GoChiefs' asshole. Just watch it. Monkeys are going to fly out of his butt this year. I'm calling it. The stars are lining up, and he finally has the tools he needs to make monkeys fly out of his butt. Remember in 2010 when he almost went all the way and got monkeys to fly out of his butt? This is the year. You all are going to be eating crow.

[BoneKrusher]

i know it's wishful thinking but i hope he has an all pro season holding the clipboard for Ouinn or Stanzi.

[Simplicity]

I don't see why he can't.

[BigMeatballDave]

I don't see why he can't.

He is completely out of excuses.

If he can't win with this roster, he should join the AFL.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

I see someone's bored and multing it up like a madman...

[BoneKrusher]

He is completely out of excuses.

If he can't win with this roster, he should join the AFL.

or he could sign with this team:
http://www.clevescene.com/images/blogimages/2011/03/23/1300908868-lingerie-football.jpg

[Simplicity]

or he could sign with this team:
http://www.clevescene.com/images/blogimages/2011/03/23/1300908868-lingerie-football.jpg

That... Is... Fantastic.

[bricks]

The key point to realize here, is, if you have to build your team around your qb to mask his deficiencies to try and make him better, it sends a message that he sucks.

If we are going to win, it'll be because of good team defense and our rushing attack more than anything else.

Cassel will just be the game manager who will put up decent numbers. Don't expect anything more. If the Chiefs have to rely on him to win games, they are in trouble. He is the reason they are not a come from behind team.

[KCBOSS1]

Cassel is such a Grbac. With Winston and the shuring up of the line. He'll probably have upper end mediocre year... Just good enough for him not to get fired again.

[notorious]

Cassel is such a Grbac. With Winston and the shuring up of the line. He'll probably have upper end mediocre year... Just good enough for him not to get fired again.


Grbac had a mega arm, but no head. Cassel has heart, but nothing else.


Grbac played in an era where the defenders could rape WR's and TE's on their routes. Cassel gets to play Tecmo Superbowl style yet still fails.

[BoneKrusher]

hey guys, Matt's been working out.
http://i42.tinypic.com/eg1ugm.png
looks like he might be better this season afterall.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Camel toe isn't too surprising, but didn't realize he had that kind of rack on him.

[BoneKrusher]

Camel toe isn't too surprising, but didn't realize he had that kind of rack on him.

i noticed that as well.
at least he'll be much easier to watch even if he cant throw. :D

[whoman69]

I see someone's bored and multing it up like a madman...

So either someone want to say something stupid and not have it lead back to them, or they just want to throw out the same old crap and not have the blame be thrown back at them.

[whoman69]

I really think we are talented enough to beat the better teams of the league.



Cassel is gonna have to do something though. Damn, this is sickening to think about.

History is against you. The Chiefs have never beaten a 10 win team with Cassel under center.

[Thaddeus_Eugenia]

So either someone want to say something stupid and not have it lead back to them, or they just want to throw out the same old crap and not have the blame be thrown back at them.

Where will you be for Easter, my whoman? I will be painting our LORD's name on a billboard in Vancouver....will your family attend the grillout?

[whoman69]

Where will you be for Easter, my whoman? I will be painting our LORD's name on a billboard in Vancouver....will your family attend the grillout?

I'll be at work, like every Sunday.

[qabbaan]

My worst fear is that Cassel will post a season like 2010, where his numbers are deceptively good, and he gets a contract extension.

[BossChief]

Why do people keep voicing a fear for Cassel getting an extension?

He is signed the next 3 years.

[Kylo Ren]

My worst fear is that Cassel will post a season like 2010, where his numbers are deceptively good, and he gets a contract extension. I'm torn. I want the Chiefs to make the playoffs. But, I want Cassel gone. For the Chiefs to go to the playoffs, Cassel must certainly play well, which will keep him around another 2 years. So, what do we do? Hope that Stanzi or Quinn emerges and takes his job? Surely, we wouldn't root for a 2-14 season, right? I don't want Tannehill in the 1st. So, if not Tannehill, who? What QB would have a legit chance to take Cassel's job from him THIS season? Don't say RGIII or Luck. That's not going to happen.

[RealSNR]

Surely, we wouldn't root for a 2-14 season, right? If it's a choice between

A. Playoff berth, first round exit, and not being in a position to draft a first round QB
or
B. Going 2-14 and taking the top QB in the next class

Then show me 2-14 and I'll show you a happy Chiefs fan.

[splatbass]

If it's a choice between

A. Playoff berth, first round exit, and not being in a position to draft a first round QB
or
B. Going 2-14 and taking the top QB in the next class

Then show me 2-14 and I'll show you a happy Chiefs fan.

Idiot.

[RealSNR]

Idiot.
Enjoy your season tickets and the best smelling parking lot in the NFL. They're all you've got after 40 years of winning nothing.

[RealSNR]

Splat, if you're good this year maybe the NFL will give the Chiefs a Monday night football game for you to look fondly upon when you're an old man and your favorite team still hasn't won a Super Bowl since the fucking Nixon administration

[Lightrise]

I know everyone hates Cassel here. I neither like him nor hate him. I wanted Luck or RGIII or Manning. But, Cassel is our QB for this year. I think the offense is improving, the defense is improving and the Chiefs are getting 3 key players back. In 2010, Cassel had a pretty good year. This year he'll have a better O-line, WRs and defense. I predict that most of those who are trashing him now will be singing a different tune in December. Again, I don't like Cassel. I don't think he's a great QB. I'd rather have someone else. But, it seems that many are rooting for him to fail. Why? Don't we want the team to succeed? If he takes the team to the playoffs, won't you be happy with that? Or, do you want him to fail so we can draft or sign a mythical player to be named later? Fans always want someone else, but rarely know who. I hope he does good this year. I want a playoff win. On the other hand, if he chokes, maybe we'll get another, better QB next year. But, I'm sick of waiting for next year. I want success for this year. The Chiefs are doing more than I thought they would this year. I'm cautiously optomistic. Cassel is the man..... at least for this season. I hope he has another 2010 season (or better) in 2012. What say you? :hmmm:

I'm going to answer before reading the responses...but my sense is this isn't going to sell. You would have been better off with 'Dang it Cassel sucks, can we luck out?' I've seen enough..the guy is too slow to the outside unable to effectively execute a simple screen pass, delivery too slow, too slow with progressions and he doesn't have that tough Marino demeanor to lower the boom on the line when they screw up. He takes too long in his wind up and doesn't have the deep ball. It didn't work and given what he accomplished in NE we should have seen all this in year two and moved on. I don't know what is going to happen but its very disappointing we didn't resign Orton. That would have given us a chance at least.

[Lightrise]

If I may get serious for a second:

Cassel did NOT have a good year in 2010. Or at least, he was not a good QB in 2010. When he faced pressure and a good defense, he royally ****ed up like he always does. Also, even in his "good" games he did his Captain Checkdown shit.

I totally agree

[O.city]

I don't really get this thought that the fans have anything to do with the Chiefs not winning a SB in 40 years.


How could the fans change that?


I want the Chiefs to win playoff games and SB's. I don't really give a damn who is the quarterback to coach or whatever.

[splatbass]

Splat, if you're good this year maybe the NFL will give the Chiefs a Monday night football game for you to look fondly upon when you're an old man and your favorite team still hasn't won a Super Bowl since the ****ing Nixon administration

Going 2-14 is not the way to win a Super Bowl. I don't think you get the concept of sports. The idea is to win, not lose.

[007]

Going 2-14 is not the way to win a Super Bowl. I don't think you get the concept of sports. The idea is to win, not lose.

Of course, the idea is to win. But I do understand the fans that are fine with a shitty 1 or 2 win season in order to get a QB too. winning 7-9 games per year is getting the Chiefs nowhere fast.

[RealSNR]

I want the Chiefs to win playoff games and SB's. I don't really give a damn who is the quarterback to coach or whatever.Neither do I. I hope Cassel is visited by a magic fairy this year who sprinkles fairy dust on his dork face and turns him into Ultra Quarterback Matt Cassel. Or hell, I hope a fairy DOESN'T visit him, but our running game and defense is so fucking unstoppable that those two elements alone win us a bunch of Super Bowls.

All I know is I've been praying for fairy dust on broke dick/retarded/career backup QBs in Chiefs uniforms ever since I started rooting for this fucking team. 20 years of this failed strategy makes me think we need to try something different, and that is to draft a top QB in the first round one year.

Losing seasons are something to be feared by people like splatbass. Why? What the fuck are they afraid of? Not winning any playoff games for two decades? People not taking the team or the franchise seriously? Being thought of as a loser franchise? Hell, our worst nightmare has ALREADY COME TRUE. Why piddle around with more of these 7-9 seasons, a record that we seem to achieve every other fucking year? Why not EMBRACE 2-14 and then do the thing that took away the skein of losing from the Detroit Lions? The 1-15 San Diego Chargers? How about doing the thing that turned Indianapolis into a fucking FOOTBALL town?

Or... we could scratch and claw our way to 7-9 just to avoid being talked about in the discussion of the NFL's garbage teams. Wouldn't want THAT! That would be embarrassing! Those wins matter, damn it!

[RealSNR]

Going 2-14 is not the way to win a Super Bowl. I don't think you get the concept of sports. The idea is to win, not lose.A noble idea. Somebody should tell the franchise that shits out 7-9 seasons like clockwork and then changes absolutely fucking nothing about the team identity.

[splatbass]

A noble idea. Somebody should tell the franchise that shits out 7-9 seasons like clockwork and then changes absolutely ****ing nothing about the team identity in order to change things.

Pioli has made enormous changes in the identity of the team. Compare the roster today to the roster when he took over. QB is really the only area he hasn't improved. Actually he has. Cassel may suck, but he is better than Croyle, Thigpen and Huard.

[007]

Pioli has made enormous changes in the identity of the team. Compare the roster today to the roster when he took over. QB is really the only area he hasn't improved. Actually he has. Cassel may suck, but he is better than Croyle, Thigpen and Huard.

doesn't make him any less shitty though. To be content with him is asinine.

[Hammock Parties]

Pioli has made enormous changes in the identity of the team. Compare the roster today to the roster when he took over. QB is really the only area he hasn't improved. Actually he has. Cassel may suck, but he is better than Croyle, Thigpen and Huard.

"improvement" is great.

Game-changing playmakers bring championships.

So far the only player of that caliber he has landed is Eric Berry, who is hurt.

[RealSNR]

Pioli has made enormous changes in the identity of the team. Compare the roster today to the roster when he took over. QB is really the only area he hasn't improved. Actually he has. Cassel may suck, but he is better than Croyle, Thigpen and Huard.I agree. I love this team apart from the QB.

Let's say this corps of players has a 5 year window. Even that might be generous, but let's put it at 5. Would you rather suffer a 2-14 season but then draft a guy who ends up being a top 5 QB in this league? Or would you rather keep plugging away with what we got, always on the outer reaches of drafting a great QB in the first round? Which scenario do you think is more likely to win us a Super Bowl?

[splatbass]

I agree. I love this team apart from the QB.

Let's say this corps of players has a 5 year window. Even that might be generous, but let's put it at 5. Would you rather suffer a 2-14 season but then draft a guy who ends up being a top 5 QB in this league? Or would you rather keep plugging away with what we got, always on the outer reaches of drafting a great QB in the first round? Which scenario do you think is more likely to win us a Super Bowl?

I don't think those are the only options. We don't know what we have in Stanzi, we don't know if we will draft a QB, we don't know how Quinn will work out. I'm not convinced that Pioli is as stupid about Cassel as you guys think he is. I don't think they are locked in to Cassel even this year if one of the others plays better. I think we have enough talent on this team to contend even with an average QB. I would rather have a franchise QB, but how many teams do? There are really only a handful in the NFL. You can wish you had the next Peyton Manning, but realistically there isn't much chance of that, so we have to try to win with what is available. There is certainly no guarantee that a Luck or RGIII would be ready before the window closes either.

[milkman]

I don't think those are the only options. We don't know what we have in Stanzi, we don't know if we will draft a QB, we don't know how Quinn will work out. I'm not convinced that Pioli is as stupid about Cassel as you guys think he is. I don't think they are locked in to Cassel even this year if one of the others plays better. I think we have enough talent on this team to contend even with an average QB. I would rather have a franchise QB, but how many teams do? There are really only a handful in the NFL. You can wish you had the next Peyton Manning, but realistically there isn't much chance of that, so we have to try to win with what is available. There is certainly no guarantee that a Luck or RGIII would be ready before the window closes either.

You can win a SB with a talented roster with a 2nd tier QB, even today.

But you can't win with a QB who isn't at least 2nd tier, and Matt Cassel is not 2nd tier.

Matt Cassel is bottom tier.

[keg in kc]

A pretty good year for matt cassell is a poor year for anybody else.

[O.city]

I gotta say, I have to agree with Milk.



It's not gonna take a top 5 qb to win SB's. I think Flaaco is a perfect example of that. He was a missed field goal away from being in the SB.

[RealSNR]

I don't think those are the only options. We don't know what we have in Stanzi, we don't know if we will draft a QB, we don't know how Quinn will work out. I'm not convinced that Pioli is as stupid about Cassel as you guys think he is. I don't think they are locked in to Cassel even this year if one of the others plays better. I think we have enough talent on this team to contend even with an average QB. I would rather have a franchise QB, but how many teams do? There are really only a handful in the NFL. You can wish you had the next Peyton Manning, but realistically there isn't much chance of that, so we have to try to win with what is available. There is certainly no guarantee that a Luck or RGIII would be ready before the window closes either.
Half of my Stanzi support comes from watching his improvement at Iowa and seeing what he did in the preseason with the abortion that was our 3rd string offensive line.

And I'm not afraid to admit this, but the other half of my support comes from an almost religious-like faith that he can be the QB this team needs to win playoff games. And that's kind of because I don't see really any other choice apart from trading up in next year's draft. And we all know what Pioli has said about multiple first round picks and trading up, so here I am back to Stanzi or bust.

[O.city]

I really like what Stanzi brings to the table. Mentally, physically, work ethic etc.


Problem is, I just don't know what has to happen for him to start or get a chance to play. It's gonna have to be an injury or him setting the world on fire in preseason.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Cassel would make a decent Franchise fast food manager...

[threebag]

I really like what Stanzi brings to the table. Mentally, physically, work ethic etc.


Problem is, I just don't know what has to happen for him to start or get a chance to play. It's gonna have to be an injury or him setting the world on fire in preseason.

Or hire a hit man to remove all obstacles.

[whoman69]

If it's a choice between

A. Playoff berth, first round exit, and not being in a position to draft a first round QB
or
B. Going 2-14 and taking the top QB in the next class

Then show me 2-14 and I'll show you a happy Chiefs fan.

Suck for Barkley has already started? :banghead::facepalm:

[O.city]

Seriously, I dunno how Stanzi gets on the field, without Cassel getting hurt.

[lcarus]

Cassel would make a decent Franchise fast food manager...

Unfortunately almost all fast food franchises have to put on hats.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Unfortunately almost all fast food franchises have to put on hats.

The correct response was...


"Nah, he'd toss his hair net into the fryer and end up burning the place down." :)

[lcarus]

The correct response was...


"Nah, he'd toss his hair net into the fryer and end up burning the place down." :)

LOL. At least in the press conference he'd say "I think I can do better. We just got to get back to work, rebuild the Sonic, and work as a team!"

[Pasta Little Brioni]

LOL. At least in the press conference he'd say "I think I can do better. We just got to get back to work, rebuild the Sonic, and work as a team!"

After giving someone a single burger instead of a triple and tots in place of curly fries.

"Graded out perfectly today!"

[whoman69]

Neither do I. I hope Cassel is visited by a magic fairy this year who sprinkles fairy dust on his dork face and turns him into Ultra Quarterback Matt Cassel. Or hell, I hope a fairy DOESN'T visit him, but our running game and defense is so ****ing unstoppable that those two elements alone win us a bunch of Super Bowls.

All I know is I've been praying for fairy dust on broke dick/retarded/career backup QBs in Chiefs uniforms ever since I started rooting for this ****ing team. 20 years of this failed strategy makes me think we need to try something different, and that is to draft a top QB in the first round one year.

Losing seasons are something to be feared by people like splatbass. Why? What the **** are they afraid of? Not winning any playoff games for two decades? People not taking the team or the franchise seriously? Being thought of as a loser franchise? Hell, our worst nightmare has ALREADY COME TRUE. Why piddle around with more of these 7-9 seasons, a record that we seem to achieve every other ****ing year? Why not EMBRACE 2-14 and then do the thing that took away the skein of losing from the Detroit Lions? The 1-15 San Diego Chargers? How about doing the thing that turned Indianapolis into a ****ing FOOTBALL town?

Or... we could scratch and claw our way to 7-9 just to avoid being talked about in the discussion of the NFL's garbage teams. Wouldn't want THAT! That would be embarrassing! Those wins matter, damn it!

That's a slippery slope. Usually a team that bad has more problems than QB. Indianapolis has had the #1 pick more than any other team. You could get teams like Cincy or Cleveland that go into a decade long funk, or even longer. Of the three teams you mentioned, only one has won the Super Bowl. In fact they are the only team that fell to the number one pick to win the Super Bowl unless you go clear back to Troy Aikman.

[RealSNR]

Suck for Barkley has already started? :banghead::facepalm:Ick. No. I don't think Barkley is that good of a QB.

[RealSNR]

That's a slippery slope. Usually a team that bad has more problems than QB. Indianapolis has had the #1 pick more than any other team. You could get teams like Cincy or Cleveland that go into a decade long funk, or even longer. Of the three teams you mentioned, only one has won the Super Bowl. In fact they are the only team that fell to the number one pick to win the Super Bowl unless you go clear back to Troy Aikman.Are we talking QBs only? There's also the Orlando Pace St. Louis Rams.

And I assume the New York Giants trade into Eli Manning doesn't count.

[whoman69]

Are we talking QBs only? There's also the Orlando Pace St. Louis Rams.

And I assume the New York Giants trade into Eli Manning doesn't count.

Nope, Giants don't count. They weren't the worst team in the league. The Rams haven't really done anything with Bradford as #1 either. Oakland w/Jamarcus, the list goes on and on.

[RealSNR]

Nope, Giants don't count. They weren't the worst team in the league. The Rams haven't really done anything with Bradford as #1 either. Oakland w/Jamarcus, the list goes on and on.But Pace DOES count, right?

[milkman]

Suck for Barkley has already started? :banghead::facepalm:

Blow for Barkley.

[BossChief]

If we don't move up for Tannehill, I don't even want us to draft a quarterback this year.

Stanzi is better than the rest of the field and fits in very well with what the team wants to do offensively.

It's gonna royally piss me off if he doesn't get a shot this year.

Right now, he is our best quarterback.

[O.city]

I don't really see Tannehill being that much better, qb wise, than Stanzi. Again, IMO. I think Tannehill is a much better athlete, but as a qb not quite yet.

[Kylo Ren]

I agree. Stanzi is the Manzi!

[lcarus]

I don't really see Tannehill being that much better, qb wise, than Stanzi. Again, IMO. I think Tannehill is a much better athlete, but as a qb not quite yet.

We don't know anything about Stanzi or Tannehill at the pro level yet. I was hoping after Cassel inevitably shits the bed this year that Stanzi might get a shot, but with the addition of Quinn it doesn't seem like the Chiefs want that to happen.

[Chiefshrink]

We don't know anything about Stanzi or Tannehill at the pro level yet. I was hoping after Cassel inevitably shits the bed this year that Stanzi might get a shot, but with the addition of Quinn it doesn't seem like the Chiefs want that to happen.

did Daboll work with Quinn in Cleveland?