Trade Offer on Table

[Marty Mac Ver 2.0]

Word on the street is that Dallas and KC have worked out a trade for the #11 pick.

[RealSNR]

Word has it the pick involves Q

[Chief_For_Life58]

which street did u hear this on?

[Micjones]

That would net us a mid-3rd?

[mr. tegu]

link? Compensation?

[Bewbies]

Jerry will let Clark ride in his private jet and will throw in $100 cash.

[Dayze]

Word has it the pick involves Q

LMAO

[chiefs2012]

we've politely asked for a link

[Chiefaholic]

link? Compensation?

The words still on the street, so it takes longer to communicate. FYI... I want to stay exactly where were at until were on the board and we see who our options are. I sure as hell don't want to trade down with only one premier prospect left on the board.

[KevB]

I'd think that's completely contingent on a certain player being available at 11. Barron or Gilmore I'd guess.

[-King-]

Why would they do a trade now?

[mr. tegu]

I am all for a trade down as long as it doesn't result in Poe.

[qabbaan]

I think you might have this right because ESPN reported the same thing this morning.

[mcaj22]

does it involve them giving us Brandon Carr back?

[BryanBusby]

Why would they do a trade now?

They don't have all freakin' night to hammer out picks once they are on the board, so teams are going to make several trade agreements in advance if situations x and y and condition z are met. There's several agreements made every draft that never actually happens.

If you try to wing it, there's the chance of looking like a fucking idiot ala Jerry Angelo and pissing off the rest of the league.

[the Talking Can]

I think you might have this right because ESPN reported the same thing this morning.

and last night, even

[Marty Mac Ver 2.0]

NFL GMs have a series of situational trades on ice. How in the hell else do you think it a trade occurs in 8 minutes on draft day when other trades take weeks. you'd be shocked at the number of deals struck that never happen on draft day. Its all about due diligence.

Dallas wants the S from Alabama. Its that simple.

[HemiEd]

does it involve them giving us Brandon Carr back?

This, tell Jerry Jones to go fuck himself.

[Radar Chief]

Interesting. Wasn’t it Dallas that the Chiefs traded with to move up and get Simms? I think we owe them one for that.

[Discuss Thrower]

Swap picks, we give them Matt Cassel and a 2nd rounder next year for an extra 3rd/4th this and Kyle Orton.

[ChiefsCountry]

Those of you asking for a link, the OP has lots of sources in the NFL and ran a website. Consider this your source.

[BigCatDaddy]

A 3rd would be sweet, but I'm betting it's a 4th.

[Chiefnj2]

Why would they do a trade now?

They always work out a trade ahead of time.

[Chiefnj2]

Dallas will take Barron if he is available. That leaves KC grabbing DeCastro or someone like Brockers?

[-King-]

They don't have all freakin' night to hammer out picks once they are on the board, so teams are going to make several trade agreements in advance if situations x and y and condition z are met. There's several agreements made every draft that never actually happens.

If you try to wing it, there's the chance of looking like a fucking idiot ala Jerry Angelo and pissing off the rest of the league.
They always work out a trade ahead of time.

My bad. I took the OP as meaning that the trade was about to happen now.

[Thig Lyfe]

Peyton Manning in play???

[Bootlegged]

Chiefs and Dallas swap picks and Dallas gives KC Kyle Orton back.

[Bump]

I hope that happens

[mcaj22]

Chiefs and Dallas swap picks and Dallas gives KC Kyle Orton back.



LOL

[Titty Meat]

So if we trade back to 14 the likely choices: Kuelchy, Decastro, and Brockers.

[Frosty]

Chiefs and Dallas swap picks and Dallas gives KC Brandon Carr back.

FYP

[Chiefnj2]

So if we trade back to 14 the likely choices: Kuelchy, Decastro, and Brockers.

I'd rather have Barron.

[Jerm]

If we trade back, hopefully Hightower is the pick.

[eazyb81]

So if we trade back to 14 the likely choices: Kuelchy, Decastro, and Brockers.

Probably, but none of those excite me at all.

[Dayze]

If we trade back, hopefully Hightower is the pick.

That

[royr17]

Hey if they make that trade why not draft quinton couples at 14. you could go with a starting lineup next year made of Bailey, Chapman if Drafted, and Coples. Bailey and Coples have the size to play in the 3-4.

That be sweet with Hali and Houston as the OLB's and Bailey and Coples as the DE's. Lots of pass rushing ability right there.

[bsp4444]

So if we trade back to 14 the likely choices: Kuelchy, Decastro, and Brockers.

And that's sort of who our choices are at #11, except for Barron. I like moving back and gaining an extra pick more than I like spending another high pick on a safety.

[BryanBusby]

Kuechly could be gone before the Chiefs original pick.

[Titty Meat]

Probably, but none of those excite me at all.

Me either.

For me its Tannehill who I know you hate, Ingram, and Barron.

[BigCatDaddy]

I'd really like to have been able to move back a little further and get a higher pick in return then what we'll probably get for moving back 3 spots.

[keg in kc]

I'd really like to have been able to move back a little further and get a higher pick in return then what we'll probably get for moving back 3 spots.There's no rule against trading back a second time.

[suds79]

There's no rule against trading back a second time.

Just about to post this.

Good thought. Every bit helps.

[sedated]

Here comes DeCastro!!!

[BryanBusby]

Trade back because we have mad holes to fill.....wait a second.

E: Aw yeah, trade back to draft more Guards! Fuck. Yes.

[Saul Good]

Cowboys get our first and third in exchange for their first and second.

We take Brockers, Ta'amu, Osweiler, and Molk with our first four picks.

[Mojo Jojo]

we've politely asked for a link
It's been on KC Sports radio and their national "experts" since late morning.

[DeezNutz]

Cowboys get our first and third in exchange for their first and second.

We take Brockers, Ta'amu, Osweiler, and Molk with our first four picks.

I honestly think Osweiler would be a wasted pick, which probably means he'll end up being nails.

Most of the game film on him is lackluster.

[Mr. Laz]

They don't have all freakin' night to hammer out picks once they are on the board, so teams are going to make several trade agreements in advance if situations x and y and condition z are met. There's several agreements made every draft that never actually happens.

If you try to wing it, there's the chance of looking like a fucking idiot ala Jerry Angelo and pissing off the rest of the league.
yep, there are tons of 'parameter trades' in the works already imo.

[Frankie]

Dallas will take Barron if he is available. That leaves KC grabbing DeCastro or someone like Brockers?

My pick will come from this list:

Tannehill
Barron
Kuechly

Or de Castro at around 18.

NO TO BROCKERS!

[Saul Good]

I honestly think Osweiler would be a wasted pick, which probably means he'll end up being nails.

Most of the game film on him is lackluster.

Very possible. He's a homerun swing that we can afford to take. We have an entire roster full of solid singles. A homerun helps us infinitely more than a strikeout hurts us.

[Marty Mac Ver 2.0]

Dolphins have now called the Chiefs about moving spots.

[Saul Good]

My pick will come from this list:

Tannehill
Barron
Kuechly

Or de Castro at around 18.

NO TO BROCKERS!

Of course you don't want Brockers. Why would we want a prototype DE for our system when we could just play a hodgepodge of players that don't really fit?

[TEX]

Here comes DeCastro!!!

I for one hope so - I'd be VERY HAPPY if that's who the Chiefs pick!

[Titty Meat]

Of course you don't want Brockers. Why would we want a prototype DE for our system when we could just play a hodgepodge of players that don't really fit?

Except Dorsey and Jackson rated 1 and 2 against the run among all d-ends in the league. Brockers isn't a pass rusher.

[BryanBusby]

ALL GUARDS EVERY ROUND

[Mr. Laz]

Except Dorsey and Jackson rated 1 and 2 against the run among all d-ends in the league. Brockers isn't a pass rusher.
well tbh it helps they they sacrifice all semblance of pass rush/penetration to defend the run and protect the LB's

[Mr. Laz]

I for one hope so - I'd be VERY HAPPY if that's who the Chiefs pick!
Barron,Kuechly,DeCastro aren't exciting picks but i think they will all be quality players who would make us better.

[The Bad Guy]

Of course you don't want Brockers. Why would we want a prototype DE for our system when we could just play a hodgepodge of players that don't really fit?

You're about as qualified to talk about football as my 2 year old.

You're the genius who tried to say that the Giants won the SB because of a bunch of 5 techs.

Yes, a hodgepodge since if we don't want Brockers then we must just want someone who doesn't fit.

[DTLB58]

If we would do this and get the Cowboy's #81 in the 3rd round and pick Hightower :thumb:

[Hammock Parties]

TONY ROMO!

[Mr. Laz]

If we would do this and get the Cowboy's #81 in the 3rd round and pick Hightower :thumb:
yea ... i'd be ok with that

let's all just hope that Barron is still there for us to draft or to get us a trade. :thumb:

[Saul Good]

You're about as qualified to talk about football as my 2 year old.

You're the genius who tried to say that the Giants won the SB because of a bunch of 5 techs.

Yes, a hodgepodge since if we don't want Brockers then we must just want someone who doesn't fit.

I said the Giants have won two Superbowls recently by finding ways to get multiple DEs on the field at the same time.

[Mr. Laz]

I said the Giants have won two Superbowls recently by finding ways to get multiple DEs on the field at the same time.
not trying to talk for BG but a completely difference situation.

The Giants are fielding multiple pass rushing DE's on the field.

5-techs are human punching bags

[BryanBusby]

You know what wins Super Bowls? Guards.

[Thig Lyfe]

ALL GUARDS EVERY ROUND

ALL GUARDS EVERYTHING

[KCTitus]

You know what wins Super Bowls? Guards.

Pffft...Franchise Full Backs win Playoff Games. You dont convert 3rd and one w/o a franchise full back.

[gblowfish]

Jerry Jones has promised Clark a motorcycle ride with a leggy blonde 20-something former volleyball player if we swap our 1-3 for their 1-2.

Just don't wreck while getting a handie, Clark...

[Epic Fail 007]

waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa damn!

[Frankie]

Dolphins have now called the Chiefs about moving spots.

If this is true it's a big clue that they won't take Tannehill at 8.

[the Talking Can]

Dolphins have now called the Chiefs about moving spots.

first, thanks for the tips...

second, the only way that makes sense is if they think we want tannehill...or am i missing an angle?

[Mr. Laz]

If this is true it's a big clue that they won't take Tannehill at 8.

this

[Thig Lyfe]

You know what wins Super Bowls? Guards.

Yo I herd u liek guards so I put a guard in your guard so you can guard while you guard.

[vailpass]

If this is true it's a big clue that they won't take Tannehill at 8.

:eek: Whoah. The hell you say. Mind=blown.

[the Talking Can]

If this is true it's a big clue that they won't take Tannehill at 8.

not really...just another contingency

say someone jumps miami for tannehill, or cleveland takes him, then what do they do?

and maybe KC is willing to jump up for kalil or keuchly...

i'm sure teams want to be prepared for all imaginable scenarios

[saphojunkie]

You know what wins Super Bowls? Guards.

NO ONE HAS EVER DRAFTED A GUARD EVER ANYWHERE FROM ANY SCHOOL DON'T BE STUPID

[ChiefMojo]

If Barron is there at #11, we will 100% trade down! Sure we could take him ourselves but Jerry Jones was just on the NFLN and all but said he wants Mark Barron. :D Jerry wants that trade up badly for Barron!!!

[eazyb81]

If this is true it's a big clue that they won't take Tannehill at 8.

And if the offensive coordinator that recruited and coached Tannehill for 4 years doesn't want him, we want absolutely nothing to do with him.

[RealSNR]

Cowboys get our first and third in exchange for their first and second.

We take Brockers, Ta'amu, Osweiler, and Molk with our first four picks.Chapman's better than Ta'amu

Osweiler sucks

Molk is too small

You suck at the draft

[AustinChief]

Chapman's better than Ta'amu

Osweiler sucks

Molk is too small

You suck at the draft

Yeah, cuz it's a good idea to have a 6'5" center that blocks the view of the QB (I've seen a quote somewhere from a scout or coach who said a Center can never be too short)... as for his BULK... he is the strongest center in the draft.. so I don't think his weight is a huge factor. He's the #2 or 3 pure center in the draft.. period.

BUT you're right on Chapman over Ta'amu... but Chapman (right now) is a 1-gap NT and doesn't really fit our scheme... but maybe he can bulk up or we can can grow up and switch to a 1-gap

[Frankie]

And if the offensive coordinator that recruited and coached Tannehill for 4 years doesn't want him, we want absolutely nothing to do with him.

Wrong. This has been brought up N times and my answer is that Sherman DOES NOT HAVE THE FINAL SAY in the Miami draft room. Philbin and Ireland do.

[Frankie]

Yeah, cuz it's a good idea to have a 6'5" center that blocks the view of the QB (I've seen a quote somewhere from a scout or coach who said a Center can never be too short)... as for his BULK... he is the strongest center in the draft.. so I don't think his weight is a huge factor. He's the #2 or 3 pure center in the draft.. period.

BUT you're right on Chapman over Ta'amu... but Chapman (right now) is a 1-gap NT and doesn't really fit our scheme... but maybe he can bulk up or we can can grow up and switch to a 1-gap

Good.

[RealSNR]

Yeah, cuz it's a good idea to have a 6'5" center that blocks the view of the QB (I've seen a quote somewhere from a scout or coach who said a Center can never be too short)... as for his BULK... he is the strongest center in the draft.. so I don't think his weight is a huge factor. He's the #2 or 3 pure center in the draft.. period.

BUT you're right on Chapman over Ta'amu... but Chapman (right now) is a 1-gap NT and doesn't really fit our scheme... but maybe he can bulk up or we can can grow up and switch to a 1-gapHeight doesn't matter. You want short(er) centers in a zone scheme. Molk's height is good.

He's listed at 298, but he played a lot lighter at Michigan. I saw him get pushed back all the time and not hold onto blocks nearly long enough. He doesn't have much of an anchor.

Let's hope he uses his honey badgerness to get push on short yardage. He has limited growth potential in terms of getting an anchor. If he doesn't it looks like we've got the same problem we had with Casey last year.

[Marty Mac Ver 2.0]

Miami wants to get Tannehill cheap. That #11 saves a lot of money for an NFL team. The chiefs are sitting on gold.

[the Talking Can]

Miami wants to get Tannehill cheap. That #11 saves a lot of money for an NFL team. The chiefs are sitting on gold.

wait, you mean miami want's to give us a pick to move down?

[Chief_For_Life58]

Miami wants to get Tannehill cheap. That #11 saves a lot of money for an NFL team. The chiefs are sitting on gold.

uhh yea...what?

[eazyb81]

Wrong. This has been brought up N times and my answer is that Sherman DOES NOT HAVE THE FINAL SAY in the Miami draft room. Philbin and Ireland do.

LOL, you think they value Sherman's coaching and evaluation abilities enough to make him the leader of their offense, but they don't trust him enough to value his decision on a QB he has worked with everyday for the past 4 seasons?

You are nuts.

[beer bacon]

If we trade back, hopefully Hightower is the pick.

I want Hightower or Ingram, so yes please.

[Frankie]

LOL, you think they value Sherman's coaching and evaluation abilities enough to make him the leader of their offense, but they don't trust him enough to value his decision on a QB he has worked with everyday for the past 4 seasons?

You are nuts.

Sherman has only a vote. Subject to veto by Ireland or Philbin. There are elite players in positions of need that Miami will have a hard time passing up. For the contract they have to give at 8 I'm sure a project QB is not their total focus.

That said, Ireland is a joke GM anyway.

[Marty Mac Ver 2.0]

Yes. The way the rookie pool is set up there is a huge difference in deals that players 1-10 sign vs 11-22 and so on. Miami had to protect both sides of the draft spot. This was a contingency trade