Where we are, roster-wise. Version 2012.

[Direckshun]

This list includes all players under contract in Kansas City, and all drafted and undrafted players, and Bowe, who is currently tagged.

I did this last year and it got quite of bit of rep as people appreciated it being updated.

So here's where we are, currently. This OP will be updated constantly throughout the offseason.

I am placing these players in an unofficial depth chart -- my projections for now. This will obviously change as the roster comes into focus in preseason.

Italics are players on the workout squad, and do not count against the players tally.

QB
Matt Cassel
Brady Quinn
Ricky Stanzi
Alex Tanney

RB
Jamaal Charles
Peyton Hillis
Shaun Draughn
Cyrus Gray
Dexter McCluster

FB
Nate Eachus
Shane Bannon

WR
Dwayne Bowe
Jonathan Baldwin
Steve Breaston
Dexter McCluster
Terrance Copper
Devon Wylie
Jamar Newsome
Josh Bellamy
Zeke Markshausen
Jeremy Horne
Junior Hemingway
Brandon Kinnie
Aaron Weaver

TE
Tony Moeaki
Kevin Boss
Steve Maneri
Tim Biere
Jake O'Connell

OT
Brandon Albert
Eric Winston
Donald Stephenson
David Mims

OG
Jon Asamoah
Ryan Lilja
Jeff Allen
Darryl Harris
Justin Cheadle
Rich Ranglin

C
Rodney Hudson
Luke Patterson
Rob Bruggeman
Cam Holland

NT
Anthony Toribio
Dontari Poe
Jerrell Powe

DE
Glenn Dorsey
Tyson Jackson
Amon Gordon
Ropati Pitoitua
Allen Bailey
Jerome Long
Brandon Bair
Ethan Johnson

OLB
Tamba Hali
Justin Houston
Cameron Sheffield
Andy Studebaker
Gabe Miller
Edgar Jones

ILB
Derrick Johnson
Jovan Belcher
Brandon Siler
Cory Greenwood
Caleb Campbell
Dexter Heyman
Leon Williams

CB
Brandon Flowers
Stanford Routt
Javier Arenas
Travis Daniels
Jalil Brown
Jacques Reeves

S
Eric Berry
Kendrick Lewis
Abram Elam
DaQuan Menzie
Donald Washington
Terrence Parks
Mikail Baker
Neiko Thorpe
Tysyn Hartman
Jean Fanor
Chandler Fenner
Dominique Ellis

K
Ryan Succop
Matt Szymanski

P
Dustin Colquitt

LS
Thomas Gafford

Player count: 89
Roster limit: 90

Injured Reserve
TE Martin Rucker
S Kyle McCarthy

[JoeyChuckles]

I miss Crabby Pinch-your-belly.

[Direckshun]

First thing I notice -- that is a shit ton of UDFA safeties they brought in.

[TimeForWasp]

Cool, thanks

[TimeForWasp]

they brought a kicker in to make Succup nervous

[suds79]

Where's Junior Hemingway? Am I just not seeing him?

[keg in kc]

they brought a kicker in to make Succup nervousThey almost always take two kickers into camp as I recall.

CB still looks a bit thin to me.Where's Junior Hemingway? Am I just not seeing him?Don't see him.

[Jewish Rabbi]

Might want to reorder the RBs. I'm sure Charles still won't be the "starter."

[Mr. Laz]

potentially the best OT depth chart i can remember ever having

Brandon Albert
Eric Winston
Donald Stephenson
David Mims

[Direckshun]

Where's Junior Hemingway? Am I just not seeing him?

Got it.

I'm adding him FORTHWITH.

[Direckshun]

potentially the best OT depth chart i can remember ever having

Brandon Albert
Eric Winston
Donald Stephenson
David Mims

A bit shallow, though...

You typically want five or six for preseason. I'm sure that's the next place we're going.

[Mr. Laz]

First thing I notice -- that is a shit ton of UDFA safeties they brought in.

i think they would of drafted Barron if he would of been there

[Direckshun]

i think they would of drafted Barron if he would of been there

I think, at 11, Barron was at the top of their board.

Barron
Kuechly
Tannehill?
Poe

[Bowser]

Is Weiggmann officially gone, as in played his contract out? I was under the impression he was still there, only contemplating retirement?

I could be completely wrong on that....

[ModSocks]

Surprised there aren't more CB's. Maybe some of those safeties are in for a position change?

[RealSNR]

I like Neiko Thorpe to beat out Washington and McCarthy for that last safety spot. He looked pretty good in college. Probably should have been drafted by a team.

[ForeverChiefs58]

First thing I notice -- that is a shit ton of UDFA safeties they brought in.

I am hoping a decent veteran gets released that can maybe mentor Lewis a little and teach our young safties a couple things that come with experience. That tends to be a position where our depth plays way more than you would like.

[Mr. Laz]

ILB
Derrick Johnson
Jovan Belcher
Brandon Siler
Cory Greenwood
Caleb Campbell
Dexter Heyman


meh

[L.A. Chieffan]

I think, at 11, Barron was at the top of their board.

Barron
Kuechly
Tannehill?
Poe

If they really wanted any of those guys (except maybe Barron) they would've traded up. Trading up is really no big deal now with the new cba.

Poe was the guy all the way.

[Mr. Laz]

If they really wanted any of those guys (except maybe Barron) they would've trade up. Reading up is really no big deal now with the new cba.

Poe was the guy all the way.huh ... what?


can i get a translation?

[Direckshun]

If they really wanted any of those guys (except maybe Barron) they would've traded up. Reading up is really no big deal now with the new cba.

Poe was the guy all the way.

Except the Chiefs said in the post-draft conference that Poe was who they had after other guys they wanted had been selected.

[L.A. Chieffan]

Except the Chiefs said in the post-draft conference that Poe was who they had after other guys they wanted had been selected.

Smoke screens

[Direckshun]

Surprised there aren't more CB's. Maybe some of those safeties are in for a position change?

Safety and corner is a one-way street.

Corners can become safeties, but safeties almost never become corners.

[Direckshun]

Smoke screens

After the draft?

[L.A. Chieffan]

huh ... what?


can i get a translation?

Swype

[L.A. Chieffan]

After the draft?

Pioli is a mad genius

[Direckshun]

Is Weiggmann officially gone, as in played his contract out? I was under the impression he was still there, only contemplating retirement?

I could be completely wrong on that....

Wiegmann is no longer under contract. He signed a one-year deal, like Kelly Gregg.

They remain in relatively close contact with the Chiefs though, as both they and the Chiefs assess their options.

[Rasputin]

The best part of this list is hopefully a healthy return of Jamaal Charles, Eric Berry & Tony Moeaki. What a difference makers they are for this team. I can get geard up to watch regardless of who is at QB. I don't think anyone on this years draft class will make any immediate impact so maybe down the road they will be worth the picks but I don't expect much this year from them.

[Direckshun]

Pioli is a mad genius

And time traveller?

[KCUnited]

I knew TE was thin, but Kevin O'Connell?

[Direckshun]

The best part of the list is the impressive depth we have at most positions.

The depth on this team is by no means complete, but it is better than 95% of the teams in this league.

[bsp4444]

i think they would of drafted Barron if he would of been there

I think they might have taken Taylor from LSU, too, if it had not been for San Diego.

[Direckshun]

I knew TE was thin, but Kevin O'Connell?

You win this round.

[L.A. Chieffan]

And time traveller?

He's playing chess and the rest of the NFL is playing connect four.

[ForeverChiefs58]

i think they would of drafted Barron if he would of been there

Wierd how early Barron was drafted when so many said "you can't take a saftey that high" when we drafted the rightfully so hyped up Berry. And he takes the saftey position to another level. I liked Barron a lot, but don't think he is near the same ballpark of an Eric Berry/Ed Reed impact type player.

[O.city]

I think people can be alright with the TE spot. If Moeaki can stay healthy we potentially have a great TE, and a solid pass catching guy with good blocking skills. Add Maneri as a blocker and that position has potential.



Need some ILB depth still.

[Direckshun]

He's playing chess and the rest of the NFL is playing connect four.

You're playing with paint chips.

[L.A. Chieffan]

You're playing with paint chips.

I only eat the lead free kind

[O.city]

Good thing to think about, in regards to this draft, is hopefully we get two potential all pros and a solid TE out of it, with the injured coming back.

[Dave Lane]

Safety and corner is a one-way street.

Corners can become safeties, but safeties almost never become corners.

Carl Peterson says hi.

[ModSocks]

Looking at that roster, lack of depth at ILB scares the shit out of me. I really wanted to see the Chiefs address that in this past Draft, but oh well.

[Direckshun]

Good thing to think about, in regards to this draft, is hopefully we get two potential all pros and a solid TE out of it, with the injured coming back.

We also get to complete our defense.

Poe, a 350 lb monstrousity, completes the defense. We are no longer transitioning to the two-gap 3-4.

Now we get to simply think about upgrading it, not merely filling it out.

[O.city]

Who was the ILB that we had on the practice squad last year that alot of people liked? Micah Johnson.

[Direckshun]

Who was the ILB that we had on the practice squad last year that alot of people liked? Micah Johnson.

Yeah, I liked him a ton.

Let me google him...........

Bengals.

[Rasputin]

Looking at that roster, lack of depth at ILB scares the shit out of me. I really wanted to see the Chiefs address that in this past Draft, but oh well.

Do you think Cameron Sheffield can help out if need be at ILB? I'd like to see him get on the field and what he can do now that he should be 100% this season. I don't remember him much from last year and he had the injury the year before so I'm interested in seeing him play and hope he can fill in nicely.

[Direckshun]

I don't think Belcher or DJ have any injury concerns attached to them. I think we're okay rolling into 2012 a bit skinny at ILB.

[O.city]

There will be some ILB's get cut that we can bring in for backups.

[Frosty]

Gabe Miller played both TE and DE for us so automatically adds depth at both (OLB instead of DE for the Chiefs).


:)

[Direckshun]

I think we'll finally get a chance to see what Cameron Sheffield can do.

One more year removed from a neck injury -- gotta be a good thing.

[ChiefsCountry]

but safeties almost never become corners.

Dale Carter says hi.

[Direckshun]

Two more to add, per AP:

Ohio P Paul Hershey
South Carolina State S Dominique Ellis

Another safety.

[ForeverChiefs58]

Dale Carter says hi.

Eric Warfield was going to say hi, but got bored and went to the bar instead.

[Frosty]

It's probably easy to get UDFA safeties to sign with the Chiefs since one has an above average chance of making it.

[Rain Man]

I'd sure like to re-sign Gilberry. DE looks to be our area of least depth.

[Rooster]

Freaking STACKED at QB...:grr:

[Direckshun]

First string OL:

LT: Albert
LG: Lilja
C: Hudson
RG: Asamoah
RT: Winston

Second string OL:

LT: Stephenson
LG: Allen
C: Harris
RG: Cheadle
RT: Mims

Not bad...

[RealSNR]

ILB depth really isn't a problem at all as long as Johnson doesn't get injured.

Siler and Greenwood are more than adequate backups.

It's safety and DE depth that we need to worry about. You know Bailey is going to get used a bunch this year, and can't really function as a reserve player. Unless you all think Brandon Bair is just the bee's knees.

[Direckshun]

ILB depth really isn't a problem at all as long as Johnson doesn't get injured.

Siler and Greenwood are more than adequate backups.

It's safety and DE depth that we need to worry about. You know Bailey is going to get used a bunch this year, and can't really function as a reserve player. Unless you all think Brandon Bair is just the bee's knees.

Explain yourself.

[RealSNR]

Our offensive line depth is so goddamn sexy. I just wish we would have acquired a center so Hudson could play guard full time. But it's still cool.

At starter you have two fantastic tackles (one of whom COULD reasonably play guard if things got really fucking dire) On the interior, Hudson doubles as an outstanding guard and center, and will start at center. Behind our tackles is Stephenson who plays both the left and right side. You figure that Allen will get the start at LG but should that not be possible you have Lilja starting with Allen as his backup, who can also serve as reserve reserve depth at tackle. And the cherries on top are guys who are long-term developmental prospects who have a small chance of being some pretty incredible players- Harris (who plays ANY interior line spot) and Mims.

Quality starters and quality depth with potential to play as starters, and over half those guys can play multiple positions adequately and with the same skill and execution as their normal spot.

If any Cassel apologists out there still exist, I don't want to hear ONE FUCKING WORD out of them about the protection. The talent's there. If there's still a problem, it's due to the coaching or even (gasp!) the QB.

I mean, it IS Cassel's fault that he can't stand up to the pressure. Always has been. But now at least we have philosophical closure. We've proven that we don't need offensive line talent. That shit can finally go the hell away.

[RealSNR]

Explain yourself.We're using him as our Gilberry, yeah?

If Dorsey/Jackson get injured and he's playing full time DE, that eliminates the ability to use him to get pressure on passing downs. Preferably you want a guy like Gilberry to be the specialist, who stays on the bench if a starter goes down.

I think I might be jumping to conclusions anyway, though. If Dorsey or Jackson are injured, it's Amon Gordon who would get the start, is it not?

[tooge]

I hope Dexter Heyman makes it big. I wanna hear Berman call him Dexter, don't call me
Buster, Heyman

[Saul Good]

If Allen isn't our starter over Lilja, this draft is a disaster. Ryan had a good run, but his best days are way behind him.

[htismaqe]

If Allen isn't our starter over Lilja, this draft is a disaster. Ryan had a good run, but his best days are way behind him.

I feel the same way but given how this front office and staff treats draft picks, I expect to see Allen on the bench Day 1.

[RealSNR]

Holy. Shit.

I know three seasons ago is a lot of time to get a roster better. But holy shit. These two defenses just don't even fucking compare.

Who do I pat on the back for the job they did in fixing this abortion? Romeo? Pioli? Todd?

2009 Chiefs Defense (approximate, some of these guys shifted positions and got waived/cut halfway through the year)

DE
Glenn Dorsey
Tyson Jackson
Alex Magee
Wallace Gilberry
Dion Gales

NT
Ron Edwards
Tank Tyler
Derek Lokey

OLB
Tamba Hali
Mike Vrabel
Pierre Walters
Andy Studebaker

ILB
Demorrio Williams
Corey Mays
Jovan Belcher
Derrick Johnson

S
Mike Brown
Jarrad Page
Jon McGraw
Ricky Price

CB
Brandon Flowers
Brandon Carr
Mike Richardson
Donald Washington
Travis Daniels

[RealSNR]

NT
Ron Edwards
Tank Tyler
Derek Lokey


S
Mike Brown
Jarrad Page
Jon McGraw
Ricky Price

:Lin:

[Direckshun]

Holy. Shit.

I know three seasons ago is a lot of time to get a roster better. But holy shit. These two defenses just don't even ****ing compare.

Who do I pat on the back for the job they did in fixing this abortion? Romeo? Pioli? Todd?

2009 Chiefs Defense (approximate, some of these guys shifted positions and got waived/cut halfway through the year)

DE
Glenn Dorsey
Tyson Jackson
Alex Magee
Wallace Gilberry
Dion Gales

NT
Ron Edwards
Tank Tyler
Derek Lokey

OLB
Tamba Hali
Mike Vrabel
Pierre Walters
Andy Studebaker

ILB
Demorrio Williams
Corey Mays
Jovan Belcher
Derrick Johnson

S
Mike Brown
Jarrad Page
Jon McGraw
Ricky Price

CB
Brandon Flowers
Brandon Carr
Mike Richardson
Donald Washington
Travis Daniels

ROFL

God that is so fucking sad.

[RealSNR]

I was pissed about Tank Tyler, too. I thought he would have made a great fit as our NT in this defense. I had high hopes.

Ah well. At least he lasted longer than his asshole partner in crime from the 2007 draft Turk McBride. At least we got a fucking draft pick out of Tank

[RealSNR]

Offense had SOME kind of semblance of decency? Weak spots at offensive line, TE, and obviously QB, but we had some good things going.

QB
Matt Cassel
Brodie Croyle
Matt Gutierrez

RB
Larry Johnson
Jamaal Charles
Javarris Williams

FB
Mike Cox
Tim Castille

TE
Leonard Pope
Sean Ryan
Jake O'Connell
( :Lin: )

WR
Dwayne Bowe
Terrance Copper
Chris Chambers
Lance Long
Quinten Lawrence
Bobby Wade (midseason cut)

OT
Brandon Albert
Ryan O'Callaghan
Barry Richardson
Ikechuku Ndukwe

OG
Brian Waters
Wade Smith
Andy Alleman
Darryl Harris

C
Rudy Niswanger
(Wade Smith)

[Rasputin]

First string OL:

LT: Albert
LG: Lilja
C: Hudson
RG: Asamoah
RT: Winston

Second string OL:

LT: Stephenson
LG: Allen
C: Harris
RG: Cheadle
RT: Mims

Not bad...

That isn't bad at all. What I like about it and reverse from what Carl did here is Pioli is trying to set us up for future success. Never mind the QB situation right now however we got Stanzi in the wing. From Carl years he never left us anything along the lines after the Ws retired Will Shields and Will Roaf. Our O-line hit a wall and we never had anything in the cubboard to regroup with. Now we are getting set up nicely and maybe that is what Pioli efforts are all about? That's what my take is now and we shall see if it pays off. If this is the case I can be more patient with Pioli and also let the QB situation play out itself if Stanzi can showcase quality play in preseason.

[Mr. Laz]

Pioli is doing a solid job ... now if we can just get the QB position figured out.

[htismaqe]

Pioli is doing a solid job ... now if we can just get the QB position figured out.

Sure looks that way...

[RealSNR]

Also, can I just say something?

The true champions, the franchise veterans who have withstood the bullshit with this team and are now the older guys on the roster that the young guys look up to for guidance, are coincidentally this team's best players (outside of acquisitions like Berry, Winston, and Breaston, who came later to the call through no fault of their own).

Jamaal Charles
Tamba Hali
Dwayne Bowe
Derrick Johnson
Jovan Belcher
Brandon Flowers
Brandon Carr (c'mon, he gets an honorary mention)
Glenn Dorsey
Tyson Jackson
Brandon Albert

Oh, and there's that one guy again. What's his name? I forget. Oh, yeah, now I remember!

TERRANCE COPPER

Eat it, haters. Guess what? Ten bucks says he'll be back again this year bruising vaginas on special teams and breaking the hearts of fans who want undrafted local white kid who tries hard to get on the roster instead.

All in a day's work for Terrance Copper- Superhuman.

[Rasputin]

Pioli is doing a solid job ... now if we can just get the QB position figured out.

So far I think that's the only knock we got on Pioli and that is a big issue yet for us. I do think he will be drafting us QBs altho in later rounds. What he needs to do is jump in the draft to snag the best QB possible in next years draft and we should be set. I can start to appreciate the work Pioli is doing for the rest of the team makeup. Even with Casshole I don't see us drafting in the top 10 next year I think we just are too good of a team for that.

[Mr. Laz]

Sure looks that way...
people running around saying Pioli sucks etc are just being silly.

The only real issue with Pioli is that he SEEMS to subscribe to the same idea that Shottenheimer did, that a team only needs a game manager at QB to win.

just threw up in my mouth a little while typing that ... hope i'm wrong.

[RealSNR]

people running around saying Pioli sucks etc are just being silly.

The only real issue with Pioli is that he SEEMS to subscribe to the same idea that Shottenheimer did, that a team only needs a game manager at QB to win.

just threw up in my mouth a little while typing that ... hope i'm wrong.You need some Stanziriffic love in your heart!

[Mr. Laz]

You need some Stanziriffic love in your heart!
If i'm wrong ... we're good
If we get lucky with a mid-round QB ... we're good
If we get a Manning-esque break signing ... we're good


still have hope ... it's just frustrating

[Direckshun]

Also, can I just say something?

The true champions, the franchise veterans who have withstood the bullshit with this team and are now the older guys on the roster that the young guys look up to for guidance, are coincidentally this team's best players (outside of acquisitions like Berry, Winston, and Breaston, who came later to the call through no fault of their own).

Jamaal Charles
Tamba Hali
Dwayne Bowe
Derrick Johnson
Jovan Belcher
Brandon Flowers
Brandon Carr (c'mon, he gets an honorary mention)
Glenn Dorsey
Tyson Jackson
Brandon Albert

Oh, and there's that one guy again. What's his name? I forget. Oh, yeah, now I remember!

TERRANCE COPPER

Eat it, haters. Guess what? Ten bucks says he'll be back again this year bruising vaginas on special teams and breaking the hearts of fans who want undrafted local white kid who tries hard to get on the roster instead.

All in a day's work for Terrance Copper- Superhuman.

He made a little noise when we had a competent QB in Orton, too. A few select passes.

The way teams are dropping everybody into coverage now, you need to be 4- or 5-deep good at WR.

Copper can be that guy -- if he can just develop a relationship with Cassel.

It's hard; I just never see Cassel as a guy that can utilize as many weapons as he has. It took him half the season, it seems, to recognize Breaston's talent.

[jjchieffan]

Safety and corner is a one-way street.

Corners can become safeties, but safeties almost never become corners.



Didn't the Chiefs try that more than once during the dark ages known as the Carl Peterson era? I was thinking that Warfield or Barter were converted safeties and I am pretty sure there were others. Not that they turned out to be all pro, but they certainly would have been great depth, which is all any of the extra safeties would be if they were converted to corner.

[Direckshun]

Didn't the Chiefs try that more than once during the dark ages known as the Carl Peterson era? I was thinking that Warfield or Barter were converted safeties and I am pretty sure there were others. Not that they turned out to be all pro, but they certainly would have been great depth, which is all any of the extra safeties would be if they were converted to corner.

Yup.

And a couple players have proven that little axiom of mine wrong.

Still, CB is a harder position to play in most systems, including ours. It's much more likely you see a CB -> S conversion than the other way around.

[htismaqe]

people running around saying Pioli sucks etc are just being silly.

The only real issue with Pioli is that he SEEMS to subscribe to the same idea that Shottenheimer did, that a team only needs a game manager at QB to win.

just threw up in my mouth a little while typing that ... hope i'm wrong.

No, I absolutely agree. To me, this team doesn't look all that different than what Peterson did in the 90s.

[Direckshun]

Another secondary players added.

Chandler Fenner, from Holy Cross

Googling now to determine if he played safety or corner.

The punter and the safety listed earlier were not confirmed by the Chiefs. They will currently be removed from the roster.

Edit: Legree was not confirmed, and also will be removed.

Edit: Fenner is a free safety. And, interestingly, was a sprinter for Holy Cross' track team.

[Chiefnj2]

"However, Stephenson has failed drug tests, been arrested and was also suspended for the entire 2009 season."

Building the right 53.

[philfree]

No, I absolutely agree. To me, this team doesn't look all that different than what Peterson did in the 90s.

This team has more weapons then the '90s Chiefs ever had. To me the difference is that Pioli is building the team on both sides of the ball equally. And Pioli's really stuck to building through the draft. Seems like Carl was always trying to find a diamond in FA like a Dan Williams or Chester McGlockton.

[BigMeatballDave]

No, I absolutely agree. To me, this team doesn't look all that different than what Peterson did in the 90s.

Its a lot younger. Certainly better WRs and RBs.

[ISUJeff]

"However, Stephenson has failed drug tests, been arrested and was also suspended for the entire 2009 season."

Building the right 53.

I saw that comment on an analysis of the Chief's draft, but haven't seen arrests mentioned anywhere else. Also the suspension was due to academics, not drugs or arrests.

Not trying to defend a pick or a player who's been an idiot, just unsure if the statement is really true.

[htismaqe]

This team has more weapons then the '90s Chiefs ever had. To me the difference is that Pioli is building the team on both sides of the ball equally. And Pioli's really stuck to building through the draft. Seems like Carl was always trying to find a diamond in FA like a Dan Williams or Chester McGlockton.

Not on defense or special teams, it doesn't.

This is a solid defense but it's not one that consistently goes out and scores points for the team, at least not yet.

[saphojunkie]

A bit shallow, though...

You typically want five or six for preseason. I'm sure that's the next place we're going.

Jeff Allen played 4 years of tackle on both sides in college. Add him to the list.

[BigMeatballDave]

"However, Stephenson has failed drug tests, been arrested and was also suspended for the entire 2009 season."

If you're going to post shit like this, post a link.

Only his path hit another obstacle after that abbreviated season at Blue Springs, and this one was more serious. Along with a handful of friends from the city, Stephenson was arrested and charged with multiple counts of burglary of a motor vehicle, theft and criminal damage. Donohoe said Friday that Stephenson was simply along for the ride when the friends allegedly broke into several cars, stealing an iPod, a watch, a camera and several other items.

Donohoe said Stephenson remained in the car and did not participate in the thefts.

“He was at a bad place at a bad time,” Donohoe said. “… His mom told him: ‘You don’t go back with those guys.’”

Still, Michigan withdrew its scholarship offer. Stephenson was serving a 10-day school suspension on National Signing Day, and because he wasn’t permitted on school grounds, he had to fax in his letter of intent to Oklahoma from an Office Depot.

Once in Norman, the Sooners redshirted Stephenson, an effort to add strength to his huge frame. Later, he served a one-season suspension from the Sooners for undisclosed reasons, and he also was arrested in 2009 on a warrant for failure to pay a speeding ticket.

Still, Donohoe insisted Friday that Stephenson is a man of character. He said the Chiefs will see that immediately.

“He knew he screwed up,” Donohoe said.

Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/2012/04/27/3580966/stephenson-comes-full-circle-with.html#storylink=cpy

Wow, Chiefnj2, that was tough...

[RealSNR]

Not on defense or special teams, it doesn't.

This is a solid defense but it's not one that consistently goes out and scores points for the team, at least not yet.A lot of that probably has to do with Crennel's scheme.

Think of even the greatest defenses on those Pats Super Bowl teams that Crennel coached. None of them exactly screamed "turnovers". They got big plays, but they weren't known for being opportunistic.

[Nightfyre]

"However, Stephenson has failed drug tests, been arrested and was also suspended for the entire 2009 season."

Building the right 53.
Oh damn, not wearing a seatbelt and speeding?!

http://blog.newsok.com/ou/2010/04/11/warren-cited-for-two-outstanding-warrents/
Stephenson, OU’s projected starter at left tackle, was originally stopped for not wearing a seat belt. During a warrant check, the officer discovered Stephenson had two outstanding warrants, one for failing to stop and one for failing to appear on the original charge. Stephenson was taken to the Norman police station, where he posted bond. Stephenson was also served with an outstanding warrant last spring for failure to pay an excessive speeding citation.

Academic suspension three years ago?
I can't find a drug test link beyond some quotes.

[Hammock Parties]

QB
Matt Cassel
Brady Quinn
Ricky Stanzi


So you're basically saying:

1. Scott Piol is a huge moron.
2. Ricky Stanzi fucking sucks.

[Hammock Parties]

RB
Jamaal Charles
Peyton Hillis
Dexter McCluster
Cyrus Gray

Why are you doing this.

Why.

[Buckweath]

I think, at 11, Barron was at the top of their board.

Barron
Kuechly
Tannehill?
Poe

Can`t understand people saying they would have taken Barron. The weakest part of our defense is the Dline and I think it`s common knowledge that it`s better to have a great dline than a great secondary.

That they would have taken Tannehill... probably, Kuechly...possibly, but Barron when we already have Eric Berry and Kendrick Lewis who has been fine so far...NO.

I`ll say this, the Chiefs linebacker and secondary corps have arguably just as much talent as the great defenses of the Steelers, Ravens, Jets of the last few years. The D-line, despite the fact that I consider Tyson Jackson and Dorsey solid players, not so much.

[Mr. Laz]

Can`t understand people saying they would have taken Barron. The weakest part of our defense is the Dline and I think it`s common knowledge that it`s better to have a great dline than a great secondary.

That they would have taken Tannehill... probably, Kuechly...possibly, but Barron when we already have Eric Berry and Kendrick Lewis who has been fine so far...NO.

I`ll say this, the Chiefs linebacker and secondary corps have arguably just as much talent as the great defenses of the Steelers, Ravens, Jets of the last few years. The D-line, despite the fact that I consider Tyson Jackson and Dorsey solid players, not so much.
evidently you have Lewis rated higher than some

[Tribal Warfare]

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[Psyko Tek]

They almost always take two kickers into camp as I recall.

CB still looks a bit thin to me.Don't see him.

DO NOT TALK ABOUT CBS
THEY LET ONE OF THE BEST IN THE LEAGUE WALK

[Direckshun]

Wasn't sure where on the depth chart to put DE Ropati Pitoitua.

So I put him behind Bair, since Bair was on the active 53 last season, and in front of our 7th rounder.

[RealSNR]

You will eat your words on Ropati Pitoitua. You will regret the day you hated on him, Direckshun. And when that happens, I won't be around to help you.

[Direckshun]

I'm including all the tryout players. Because why the fuck not.

Interestingly, the Chiefs are bringing in three long snappers.

Thomas Gafford's contract is up after this season. Methinks the Chiefs are not interested in renewing his contract.

[Titty Meat]

I'm including all the tryout players. Because why the **** not.

Interestingly, the Chiefs are bringing in three long snappers.

Thomas Gafford's contract is up after this season. Methinks the Chiefs are not interested in renewing his contract.

Why?

[Direckshun]

Why?

Well I wouldn't, I think he's really good. But long snappers are, if I had to guess, a dime a dozen. And it's probably easier to take a dude who'll play for minimum wage versus a guy who'll play for a million.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

The best part of the list is the impressive depth we have at most positions.

The depth on this team is by no means complete, but it is better than 95% of the teams in this league.

But, but, but they aren't 3 probowlers deep at every position Cheeeeeefffffs suck!!!

[whoman69]

Why are you doing this.

Why.

Just to piss you off.

[whoman69]

I'm including all the tryout players. Because why the **** not.

Interestingly, the Chiefs are bringing in three long snappers.

Thomas Gafford's contract is up after this season. Methinks the Chiefs are not interested in renewing his contract.

Too bad one of them isn't Jared Allen.

[aturnis]

Except the Chiefs said in the post-draft conference that Poe was who they had after other guys they wanted had been selected.

Don't know if it's been mentioned yet, but one way or another, he insinuated those players were Luck and RG3... He didn't though, rule out any other players as possible interests.

[aturnis]

I'd sure like to re-sign Gilberry. DE looks to be our area of least depth.

Disagree. Tyson Jackson, Glenn Dorsey, Amon Gordon, Allen Bailey, Ropati Pitoitua.

I think our areas of most concern are LB's, inside and outside. If either Tamba or Houston goes down, we have nobody else who can rush the passer. Beyond DJ, and Belcher, all we really have is Siler.

[In58men]

I'm still SMH that we released Gilberry.


Being him back!!!!!!!!

[aturnis]

evidently you have Lewis rated higher than some

Other than the first couple of games without Berry last season, where Lewis's role and confidence in the player next to him change dramatically, when has Kendrick Lewis EVER been a liability?

Lewis's weakness is in run support. That didn't stop him from finish near the top of the team for tackles.

You do not give Lewis enough credit...

[aturnis]

Wasn't sure where on the depth chart to put DE Ropati Pitoitua.

So I put him behind Bair, since Bair was on the active 53 last season, and in front of our 7th rounder.

Pitoitua had 19 tackles on the season. He seldom makes plays that stand out. He does the dirty work, holding the point of attack and tying up blockers to keep the playmakers behind him clean. Over the years, the coaching staff has gotten the 26 year old to play with more consistent technique. He has improved. A guy as tall as Ropati can sometimes allow blockers to get a base underneath him to push him back, but that has happened less and less.

Sounds like he'll be ahead of Bair on the depth chart...

[aturnis]

I'm still SMH that we released Gilberry.


Being him back!!!!!!!!

Why? Bailey proved worthy of replacing Gilberry as a rushing DE while adding more against the run.

[Blick]

Bailey flashed as a pass rusher, but he hasn't proven that he's ready to take over for Gilberry.

He only had 1 sack last year.

If you want to say that Bailey has the potential to provide what Gilberry did, then yeah, I would agree with that.

I would be surprised if Bailey matched Gilberry's 7 sacks from two years ago.

[Direckshun]

Made a couple adjustments.

Per aturnis, I moved Pitoitua up one slot at DE.

I also removed Luke Patterson from DE, which he's listed at on KCChiefs.com, and moved him to offensive tackle, where the Chiefs are currently playing him.

I also removed all the workout players except for Legree. I think Legree is just terrible, but it's obvious the Chiefs want four QBs for camp.

Following players have been removed:

TE Martin Rucker
OT Jacob Phillips
ILB Leon Williams
S Dominique Ellis
K Jason Cunningham
P Paul Hershey
LS Clint Mower
LS James Winchester
LS Tom DeTemple

[Direckshun]

Well, according to an update, Rucker has been signed.

OP updated.

[ChiefRocka]

I'm drafting Hillis in round two in my fantasy draft.

[Sfeihc]

Straight Cash, Homey!

[kcbubb]

potentially the best OT depth chart i can remember ever having

Brandon Albert
Eric Winston
Donald Stephenson
David Mims

Wow. Can you remember Willie Roaf and John Tait?

Well, I guess that is a long time ago. Man, I'm getting old.

[Direckshun]

Wow. Can you remember Willie Roaf and John Tait?

Well, I guess that is a long time ago. Man, I'm getting old.

Key word being depth.

[Direckshun]

Some of those practice players were signed today.

ILB Leon Williams
FS Dominique Ellis
TE Martin Rucker (has already been added)
OG Rich Ranglin

[RealSNR]

Wow. Can you remember Willie Roaf and John Tait?

Well, I guess that is a long time ago. Man, I'm getting old.And Jordan Black, while an AWFUL starting LT, made for pretty good OL depth. Played multiple positions, and as long as he had guys around him who could dominate, he did pretty well.

I'll still never forget that 2004 Baltimore game. He raped that defense hard. We all thought we had a really special player that game and a future starter.

[O.city]

We have pretty solid depth everywhere.



And TBH, if we had Cassel as the backup, with say a Matt Ryan type guy as the starter, I'd say we would be a contender.

[milkman]

Disagree. Tyson Jackson, Glenn Dorsey, Amon Gordon, Allen Bailey, Ropati Pitoitua.

I think our areas of most concern are LB's, inside and outside. If either Tamba or Houston goes down, we have nobody else who can rush the passer. Beyond DJ, and Belcher, all we really have is Siler.

Saw some really good things from Bobby Greenwood last year.

I think most underrate his value as depth for this team.

[O.city]

Saw some really good things from Bobby Greenwood last year.

I think most underrate his value as depth for this team.

Thats the thing, we actually have pretty solid depth.


If someone like DJ or Tamba goes down, you aren't going to be able to replace them, no matter who steps to the plate.


We lost two potential all pros last year. Thats tough to recover from when it's the positions they happen to play and how important they are to the team.

[Direckshun]

LeGree is taken off, since he's no longer a Chief.

Aaron Weaver has been added as a WR.

Puts the roster at 88.

Edit: Also, I'm moving Terrance Parks way up the safety depth chart. It has been reported he's been starting there alongside Travis Daniels since Berry, Lewis, and Menzie have all been out recently.

[saphojunkie]

Key word being depth.

It's not depth. It's how you use it.




















that's what she said.

[Direckshun]

It's not depth. It's how you use it.




















that's what she said.

You can't TWSS yourself, tard.

[Direckshun]

Adjusting this depth chart based on some stuff I'd been reading on AP.

http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2012/5/25/3043870/chiefs-otas-some-real-football-news#storyjump

[Direckshun]

Abram Elam.

[Direckshun]

Alex Taney, new QB.

He's going to be terrible.

[Direckshun]

With that, by the way, we are at 90 players.

[Direckshun]

Forgot to update this.

Martin Rucker has been removed from the active roster, opening up a spot.

I added a category at the bottom for injured reserve.

I am loving this roster, folks.

I have also changed over Travis Daniels to a safety, since he's been starting there all offseason.

[Direckshun]

Tony Ugoh has been added!

Such a great addition for OT depth.

The Ugoh-Stephenson-Mims battle will be worth watching.

Pushes the roster back up to 90.

[Direckshun]

I also pushed up Tim Biere to starting FB, since that was reported all OTAs.

[saphojunkie]

You can't TWSS yourself, tard.

Actually, I'm kind of curious. Because I didn't ****ing post this. I've never in my life made a TWSS joke. Because I think they're retarded.

[whoman69]

Tony Ugoh has been added!

Such a great addition for OT depth.

The Ugoh-Stephenson-Mims battle will be worth watching.

Pushes the roster back up to 90.

I would guess from the amount of injuries that he has had that Ugoh is coming into camp to learn the system in case he would be called back later to replace an injured player. I don't see him making the roster after camp.

[Ace Gunner]

I would guess from the amount of injuries that he has had that Ugoh is coming into camp to learn the system in case he would be called back later to replace an injured player. I don't see him making the roster after camp.

He learned the offense Coughlin runs, at least some of it I imagine and he's had time to reflect. That is the same offense the Chiefs run.

If the "impossible" were to happen (at CP of course) and Ugoh makes the roster, I would expect Mims goes PS again.

[Direckshun]

Ugoh's gone. Ray Willis in.

[Direckshun]

Taylor Gentry has been released.

That opens up a vacant roster spot.

[RealSNR]

When are you going to put McCluster at the bottom of the RB depth chart where he belongs?

Okay, he can stay above Nate Eachus. But after that fuck him

[Hammock Parties]

Dexter is not a RB anymore. Training camp reports say as much.

[thabear04]

McCarthy is on IR now and were missing Edgar Jones.

[Direckshun]

McCarthy is on IR now and were missing Edgar Jones.

Hm. Is Jones an OLB or an ILB?

[Rausch]

Forgot to update this.

Martin Rucker has been removed from the active roster, opening up a spot.


Total bull$#it.

This guy was going to be the new Michael Ricks...

[Direckshun]

Jones is an OLB. Thank god -- this team needs more passrushers. Let's hope he excels.

McCarthy to IR.

We still have one roster spot open.

[Discuss Thrower]

Without obviously knowing anything particular about how camp is going, does this look about right in terms of what the Week 1 roster will project to? EDIT: As in, the players might be how I've guessed here, but the roster spots available should break down in this way?


QB
Matt Cassel
Brady Quinn
Ricky Stanzi

3 (2)

RB
Jamaal Charles
Peyton Hillis
Cyrus Gray

6 (5)

FB
Tim Biere

7 (6)

WR
Dwayne Bowe
Jonathan Baldwin
Steve Breaston
Dexter McCluster
Terrance Copper
Devon Wylie

13 (11)

TE
Tony Moeaki
Kevin Boss
Steve Maneri

16 (13)

OT
Brandon Albert
Eric Winston
Ray Willis
David Mims

21 (16)

OG
Jon Asamoah
Ryan Lilja
Jeff Allen

24 (19)

C
Rodney Hudson
Darryl Harris

26 (21)

NT
Dontari Poe
Amon Gordon
Jerrell Powe
Anthony Toribio

30 (24)

DE
Glenn Dorsey
Tyson Jackson
Allen Bailey
Ropati Pitoitua

34 (28)

OLB
Tamba Hali
Justin Houston
Cameron Sheffield
Andy Studebaker

38 (32)

ILB
Derrick Johnson
Jovan Belcher
Brandon Siler
Cory Greenwood

42 (35)


CB
Brandon Flowers
Stanford Routt
Javier Arenas
Jalil Brown

46 (39)

S
Eric Berry
Kendrick Lewis
Travis Daniels
DaQuan Menzie

50 (42)

K
Ryan Succop

P
Dustin Colquitt

LS
Thomas Gafford

53 (45)

[Direckshun]

Uh... you're missing our third round pick.

[ModSocks]

Uh... you're missing our third round pick.

Haha beat me to it. Swap Willis for Stephenson

[ModSocks]

Also, i dont think Powe makes the team. There is no way 4 NT's make the team.

[O.city]

Haven't heard anything good about Powe from camp either.

[thabear04]

Daniels is a CB i think someone else as an undrafted S will make it

[beach tribe]

I cannot wait to see a hungry Eric Berry in action. I feel sorry for the first poor soul to come across the middle.
2012 Chiefs are going to shock the majority of the board/world. Write it down.

[beach tribe]

11-5.
AFC West Champs

[beach tribe]

Top 5 defense

[beach tribe]

Arrowhead Dominance

[beach tribe]

Another false start on the Broncos

[beach tribe]

#1 Rushing offense in the NFL

[beach tribe]

Juston Houston 11 sacks

[beach tribe]

Jon Baldwin 80 grabs 10 TDs

[beach tribe]

Jamaal Charles
Peyton Hillis
2-1000 yard rushers
JC 5.8 YPC.

[beach tribe]

Derrick Johnson
DPOY finalist

[beach tribe]

Poe=Brickwall

[Dave Lane]

Cassel?

[mcaj22]

Without obviously knowing anything particular about how camp is going, does this look about right in terms of what the Week 1 roster will project to? EDIT: As in, the players might be how I've guessed here, but the roster spots available should break down in this way?


QB
Matt Cassel
Brady Quinn
Ricky Stanzi

3 (2)

RB
Jamaal Charles
Peyton Hillis
Cyrus Gray

6 (5)

FB
Tim Biere

7 (6)

WR
Dwayne Bowe
Jonathan Baldwin
Steve Breaston
Dexter McCluster
Terrance Copper
Devon Wylie

13 (11)

TE
Tony Moeaki
Kevin Boss
Steve Maneri

16 (13)

OT
Brandon Albert
Eric Winston
Ray Willis
David Mims

21 (16)

OG
Jon Asamoah
Ryan Lilja
Jeff Allen

24 (19)

C
Rodney Hudson
Darryl Harris

26 (21)

NT
Dontari Poe
Amon Gordon
Jerrell Powe
Anthony Toribio

30 (24)

DE
Glenn Dorsey
Tyson Jackson
Allen Bailey
Ropati Pitoitua

34 (28)

OLB
Tamba Hali
Justin Houston
Cameron Sheffield
Andy Studebaker

38 (32)

ILB
Derrick Johnson
Jovan Belcher
Brandon Siler
Cory Greenwood

42 (35)


CB
Brandon Flowers
Stanford Routt
Javier Arenas
Jalil Brown

46 (39)

S
Eric Berry
Kendrick Lewis
Travis Daniels
DaQuan Menzie

50 (42)

K
Ryan Succop

P
Dustin Colquitt

LS
Thomas Gafford

53 (45)

slide Daniels to CB, maybe add Elam or some UDFA at Safety. Consider a "surprise" (i say this loosely) cut like say an Andy Studebaker if they choose to go with an actual Pioli draft pick like Gabe Miller or one of these other randos. I'd also like to think one of these 400 random WRs makes a surprise shock, maybe even Draughn at RB or Cam Holland at C? Stephenson will definitely make it at tackle.

[Direckshun]

Dramatically reworked depth chart above.

[Sofa King]

August 28th is first roster cut to 80 players, September 2nd is the final cut to 53.

[MahiMike]

Sweep Broncos
Cassel throws for 3500 yds 25 TDs
Peyton Hillis 1000 combined yds, 8 TDs
Top 5 defense
11-5

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Going to be some very tough cuts at the end.

[Dante84]

nah, I think we are 53-54 strong.

I don't think there will be any big surprises.

[Rasputin]

Going to be some very tough cuts at the end.

I think this is a good thing. It's been a long time since we have had depth this deep that I can even remember. These guys are giving each other a run for there money. I was stoked before the first preseason game, getting to watch them play really has me stoked.

In some cases it could be a flip of the coin who to keep? The other good thing is I don't think we lose much for injuries this year like last year. Guys can get rotated in and out and gain that experence needed too.

[Mr. Laz]

QB
Matt Cassel
Brady Quinn
Ricky Stanzi


RB
Jamaal Charles
Peyton Hillis
Shaun Draughn
Cyrus Gray

FB
Shane Bannon

WR
Dwayne Bowe
Jonathan Baldwin
Steve Breaston
Dexter McCluster
Terrance Copper (special teamer still alive)
Devon Wylie

Junior Hemingway (cut to practice squad)


TE
Tony Moeaki
Kevin Boss
Steve Maneri

OT
Brandon Albert
Eric Winston
Donald Stephenson
David Mims


OG (backup center from this group as well)
Jon Asamoah
Ryan Lilja (guard/center)
Jeff Allen (guard/OT)
Darryl Harris (guard/center)


C
Rodney Hudson


NT
Anthony Toribio
Dontari Poe
Jerrell Powe

DE
Glenn Dorsey
Tyson Jackson
Amon Gordon
Ropati Pitoitua
Allen Bailey


OLB
Tamba Hali
Justin Houston
Cameron Sheffield
Andy Studebaker


ILB
Derrick Johnson
Jovan Belcher
Brandon Siler
Cory Greenwood (only for special teams)


CB
Brandon Flowers
Stanford Routt
Javier Arenas
Travis Daniels
Jalil Brown


S
Eric Berry
Kendrick Lewis
Abram Elam
DaQuan Menzie
Donald Washington

K
Ryan Succop

P
Dustin Colquitt

LS
Thomas Gafford

Player count: 90
Roster limit: 90

Injured Reserve
TE Martin Rucker
S Kyle McCarthy
So far .......


I think the cut to 55 is pretty easy ... only 2 more to go

last 2 come down to:

either Amon Gordon or Ropati Pitoitua

and

DaQuan Menzie or Donald Washington

[philfree]

Everytime I see the name Leon Williams think of this guy.


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[The Franchise]

So far .......


I think the cut to 55 is pretty easy ... only 2 more to go

last 2 come down to:

either Amon Gordon or Ropati Pitoitua

and

DaQuan Menzie or Donald Washington

Easy.

Keep Pitoitua and Menzie.

[Mr. Laz]

Easy.

Keep Pitoitua and Menzie.
agreed

I think the washington experiment is finally over

[Direckshun]

Two updates:

I moved Luke Patterson to second-string C, where he is killing shit right now.

Ray Willis has also retired.

[O.city]

Color me crazy, but I think Jones makes it at OLB over Studebaker.

[Direckshun]

Color me crazy, but I think Jones makes it at OLB over Studebaker.

I want to see some more out of Jones, but I thought he outplayed Stude in the first preseason game.

[O.city]

He seems alot more athletic than Studebaker at this point and is a better rusher. I'm not really sure Studebaker has a spot on this team anymore.

[RealSNR]

Two tackles retire in one training camp.

Shit.

We need some extra preseason bodies now.