DJ is #78 on top 100

[BossChief]

On NFLN right now.

[Hammock Parties]

On again later tonight. Recording this footage...for my little project. :evil:

[BossChief]

Anybody know how many Chiefs made the list total?

[BigMeatballDave]

Him, Bowe and Hali should be the only 3 on it since JC and Berry missed last season.


Maybe Flowers.

[Hammock Parties]

DJ is the first one. We won't know the others til they're revealed.

[milkman]

Him, Bowe and Hali should be the only 3 on it since JC and Berry missed last season.


Maybe Flowers.

What?

No Dexter McCluster?

[BossChief]

Pretty sure last year they said beforehand how many were from each team.

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

Yeah. Just watched that. DJ is awesome. One of only three LB's in NFL history to return 2 INTs for 6 in one game.

[Two-Twenty]

Seems weird that DJ finally developed...

Derrick Johnson All Pro ILB

[scho63]

Seems weird that DJ finally developed...

Derrick Johnson All Pro ILB

Stranger yet is that Haley can take some credit for pushing him to reach his potential.

[mcaj22]

i will piss if Carr is on this

[Bump]

yeah I've been watching this. I expect Carr, Flowers, Hali, DJ and Bowe to all make it.

[Hammock Parties]

Flowers won't make it.

I think Hali will get a lot of respect.

[mcaj22]

yeah I've been watching this. I expect Carr, Flowers, Hali, DJ and Bowe to all make it.



no way, not even close.

[Hammock Parties]

Maybe Albert will get on. :evil:

[ILChief]

I wonder what number Matt Cassel will be?

[Hammock Parties]

I wonder what number Matt Cassel will be?

100 worst players would be awesome.

[In58men]

I wonder what number Matt Cassel will be?

#1,696

[thabear04]

If Flowers make it he would of been low like in the 80's cause ppl over look him. DJ and Hali should the Chiefs players make it if this is from the 2011 season.

[Hammock Parties]

#1,696

53x32 ROFL

[Fritz88]

DJ is way underrated by being this low.

[Hammock Parties]

DJ is way underrated by being this low.

He's a MLB in a 3-4.

It's not a high value position.

He got rated one spot higher than Nnamdi Asomugha for crying out loud.

Higher than Wilfork, Joe Thomas and Hakeem Nicks.

[Nightfyre]

You know who won't be top 100? Matt Cassel. We can't have any Cassel-free threads, now.

[Two-Twenty]

I agree. He's been murdering for a while now

Not too many defensive players better and more important than him

[chiefs2012]

falu is a hitting machine.

[In58men]

53x32 ROFL


Winner winner chicken dinner

[Easy 6]

What are the odds a guy like DJ ends his career a Chief?

Thats such a super rare thing these days, such a throwback notion... one guy, one team... DJ is definitely one of those players i'd love to see do that.

A transcendent idea in todays sports world.

[Fritz88]

He's a MLB in a 3-4.

It's not a high value position.

He got rated one spot higher than Nnamdi Asomugha for crying out loud.

Higher than Wilfork, Joe Thomas and Hakeem Nicks.

Nnamdi didn't do much last season.

[Hammock Parties]

So you really think Derrick Johnson is a better player than Nnamdi Asomugha...

[KCrockaholic]

So you really think Derrick Johnson is a better player than Nnamdi Asomugha...

From a different perspective; Johnson is better at his position than Nnamdi is at his. Johnson is also a playmaker. Something Nnamdi is not. Nnamdi can shut a guy down every once in a while. Derrick flat out makes plays. TFL, strips, pressure on the QB. Rarely misses tackles. I'd actually say yes, DJ is a better player at this point in his career.

[Hammock Parties]

From a different perspective; Johnson is better at his position than Nnamdi is at his.

:facepalm:

Asomugha is a 4x All Pro selection.

But DJ is better.

DJ.

The guy who just had his first Pro Bowl.

I'm really tired of homers.

[Nightfyre]

I believe that this particular segment is top 100 players in 2011. There is no question that DJ was a better player in 2011 than Nnamdi.

[KCrockaholic]

I believe that this particular segment is top 100 players in 2011. There is no question that DJ was a better player in 2011 than Nnamdi.

Exactly. But GC wants to bring up past accolades.

[Fritz88]

:facepalm:

Asomugha is a 4x All Pro selection.

But DJ is better.

DJ.

The guy who just had his first Pro Bowl.

I'm really tired of homers.

The ratings are based on last season. Nnamdi has better overall career but if we only consider last season, then DJ deserves to be rated higher.
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[BossChief]

Nhamdi Asamoughua went from the AFCW to the NFCE and didn't fare as well...wonder how that will effect Brandon Carr.

DJ is one of if not the best coverage linebackers in football and has been relatively injury free his entire career. (knocks on wood)...add to that his impact ability in the run game and he is one hell of a great player.

It's a shame Gunther fucked up so much of his career.

[BigMeatballDave]

:facepalm:

Asomugha is a 4x All Pro selection.

But DJ is better.

DJ.

The guy who just had his first Pro Bowl.

I'm really tired of homers.This is a really stupid post. You know this, right?

[Three7s]

If Bowe made the list, it would've been in the 90s. He had an off-year. I expect Hali to show up in the 50s and MAYBE Flowers/Carr.

Maybe we can get Cassel and McCluster going for the hype train in the 100 worst players in the NFL.

[Mr. Arrowhead]

DJ on NFLN: "Cant wait to get my big man Poe to control the middle"

[Titty Meat]

LOL people on here wouldn't even trade Carr for Asamougha and a first.

[BossChief]

He called him "Big Poe" iirc

[mcaj22]

i think Carr makes it on the fact he now plays for a media darling in the Cowboys and this is the perfect way to get his name out and have people slob on his knob sort of speak.

nobody gives a rats ass about Flowers except for us Chiefs fans.

Bowe wont be on the list because he had the worst combination of quarterbacks throwing him the ball, and nobody gives a shit about a WR on a last place team. Even Hakeem Nicks, was at the tail end of the list. And his team won the Super Bowl and he has GOD throwing him the ball.

[Urc Burry]

If Jordy Nelson is on the list, Dwayne Bowe definitely is. He was in the 40's last year I think

[BigMeatballDave]

If Bowe made the list, it would've been in the 90s. He had an off-year. I expect Hali to show up in the 50s and MAYBE Flowers/Carr.

Maybe we can get Cassel and McCluster going for the hype train in the 100 worst players in the NFL.

Bowe had an off year? He caught 81 last season, compared to 72 in '10. Yards are about the same. Yes, I'm aware he caught 10 fewer TDs.

[Dayze]

I'm anxiously awaiting Cassel's spot on the list. probalby be waiting a few weeks once they get into the top 25.

[Three7s]

Bowe had an off year? He caught 81 last season, compared to 72 in '10. Yards are about the same. Yes, I'm aware he caught 10 fewer TDs.
That's what a lot of it is judged on. Not to mention, dropping the TD that could've meant another division title. Yes, I'm aware that he had shit throwing to him, but a go-to threat in the red zone should have more a lot more TDs than that.

[DBOSHO]

The ratings are based on last season. Nnamdi has better overall career but if we only consider last season, then DJ deserves to be rated higher.
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Not to mention that nmamdi was among the worst tackling corners in the league last year

[mdchiefsfan]

i think Carr makes it on the fact he now plays for a media darling in the Cowboys and this is the perfect way to get his name out and have people slob on his knob sort of speak.

nobody gives a rats ass about Flowers except for us Chiefs fans.

Bowe wont be on the list because he had the worst combination of quarterbacks throwing him the ball, and nobody gives a shit about a WR on a last place team. Even Hakeem Nicks, was at the tail end of the list. And his team won the Super Bowl and he has GOD throwing him the ball.

I don't think Carr will make the list based on where he plays. If he does then the players aren't the ones voting.

Yes Hakeem Nicks was low, but I don't think it has anything to do with his position; I think it has to do with Victor Cruz being on his team.

[-King-]

That's what a lot of it is judged on. Not to mention, dropping the TD that could've meant another division title. Yes, I'm aware that he had shit throwing to him, but a go-to threat in the red zone should have more a lot more TDs than that.

5-7 a year is about average for a good WR. Especially one with Cassel, Palko, and Orton throwing to him.

[lcarus]

100 worst players would be awesome.

i'd watch it

[lcarus]

If Bowe made the list, it would've been in the 90s. He had an off-year. I expect Hali to show up in the 50s and MAYBE Flowers/Carr.

Maybe we can get Cassel and McCluster going for the hype train in the 100 worst players in the NFL.

Is McCluster really viewed as that horrible? I think he was picked way too early, but I don't think he's a bad player really.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

i think Carr makes it on the fact he now plays for a media darling in the Cowboys and this is the perfect way to get his name out and have people slob on his knob sort of speak.

nobody gives a rats ass about Flowers except for us Chiefs fans.

Bowe wont be on the list because he had the worst combination of quarterbacks throwing him the ball, and nobody gives a shit about a WR on a last place team. Even Hakeem Nicks, was at the tail end of the list. And his team won the Super Bowl and he has GOD throwing him the ball.

Yep. Carr could play at the exact same level and be named to 5 consecutive All Pro teams wearing that gay ass star.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Is McCluster really viewed as that horrible? I think he was picked way too early, but I don't think he's a bad player really.

He's not. This board goes total retard when evaluating players.

They are either overvalued or considered the worst player in the league.

[Fritz88]

It is so obvious DJ is not really a fan of Cassel even a deaf guy can tell.

Cassel will have 6 games next season, if he does not prove himself, players will probably revolt.

[Fritz88]

I don't think Carr will make the list based on where he plays. If he does then the players aren't the ones voting.

Yes Hakeem Nicks was low, but I don't think it has anything to do with his position; I think it has to do with Victor Cruz being on his team.

It's the players that do the voting.

[Rain Man]

With regard to Bowe, my suspicion is that the players care less about a guy's stats than do the fans and the writers and the talking heads. If they think he's a good player, then he'll make the list.

I'd love to see Flowers make it, because I think he deserves it.

[ModSocks]

Sorry guys, i highly doubt Carr, Flowers or Bowe make the list.

The only other player we'll see make this list is Hali, who should be top 25...but he'll probably get stiffed.

We Chiefs fans may love Flowers and Bowe, but the rest of the NFL probably doesn't care.

[BossChief]

Sorry guys, i highly doubt Carr, Flowers or Bowe make the list.

The only other player we'll see make this list is Hali, who should be top 25...but he'll probably get stiffed.

We Chiefs fans may love Flowers and Bowe, but the rest of the NFL probably doesn't care.Bowe was in the 40s last year. No way he totally falls off the list.

[ModSocks]

Bowe was in the 40s last year. No way he totally falls off the list.

If he isn't on the next episode, then yes, he fell off the list. His production dropped off this year and I don't think he gets a ton of respect around the league as it is.

I figured Hali and DJ would be the only two to make the list when this began, and still expect it to be that way.

[DJ's left nut]

So you really think Derrick Johnson is a better player than Nnamdi Asomugha...

I wouldn't trade Johnson for Asomugha.

Don't discount the value of a Mac 'backer in a 3-4. It's an incredible important position due to the wealth of responsibilities the player has. Further, even if you feel that Nnamdi is the greatest CB in football - well then you just don't throw to his side. There's really no way to avoid dealing with DJ. He's going to make plays in every element of the game and on nearly every level of the field.

No, there's no way I would trade DJ for Nnamdi.

[BigMeatballDave]

If he isn't on the next episode, then yes, he fell off the list. His production dropped off this year and I don't think he gets a ton of respect around the league as it is.

I figured Hali and DJ would be the only two to make the list when this began, and still expect it to be that way.

The only production to fall was TDs, and that wasnt exactly his fault. He caught more passes in '11.

[vailpass]

From a different perspective; Johnson is better at his position than Nnamdi is at his. Johnson is also a playmaker. Something Nnamdi is not. Nnamdi can shut a guy down every once in a while. Derrick flat out makes plays. TFL, strips, pressure on the QB. Rarely misses tackles. I'd actually say yes, DJ is a better player at this point in his career.

LMAO

[Two-Twenty]

The other 2 players compared to DJ on NFLN were Ray Lewis and Patrick Willis.

Yes, give me a dominant, All Pro, intercepting, fumble forcing, touchdown scoring MLB over an All Pro CB any day.

Think about it... Ray Lewis, Willie Lanier, Dick Butkus...

Or Deion Sanders, Champ Bailey, Nnamdi, etc...

[Hammock Parties]

Is McCluster really viewed as that horrible? I think he was picked way too early, but I don't think he's a bad player really.

What does he do that separates him any other running back?

The best thing I can say about him is that he has pretty good hands and stopped fumbling.

[Hammock Parties]

Hali tonight.

[vailpass]

Anybody know what the count is for AFC West players in this thing? I know Google exists but I'm over 40 and I suspect I may not have completely sweated out last night's margaritas yet.

[Titty Meat]

The other 2 players compared to DJ on NFLN were Ray Lewis and Patrick Willis.

Yes, give me a dominant, All Pro, intercepting, fumble forcing, touchdown scoring MLB over an All Pro CB any day.

Think about it... Ray Lewis, Willie Lanier, Dick Butkus...

Or Deion Sanders, Champ Bailey, Nnamdi, etc...

You are comparing guys from different times. Teams didn't throw the ball 60 times a game in the lanier/butkus era.

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[ModSocks]

Hali tonight.

Proof or just a hunch?

I have a feeling tonight will be Hali as well.

[ModSocks]

I figured Hali and DJ would be the only two to make the list when this began, and still expect it to be that way.

WINNAR

[Hammock Parties]

Has to be Hali unless you think Bowe was better last year than in 2010.

[ModSocks]

Has to be Hali unless you think Bowe was better last year than in 2010.

Bowe isn't making the list. Did you see something that said a Chief was on tonight or something?

[BigMeatballDave]

McFadden at 60 is a fucking travesty.

[BigMeatballDave]

Bowe isn't making the list.

Another travesty.

[BigMeatballDave]

Some of these selections tell me that the players are clearly misinformed, or just stupid.

[Bump]

I'm gonna be pissed if Hali doesn't make the list. I'm starting to think he's gonna get snubbed, but I don't think there hasn't been many top pass rushing linebackers yet. I was expecting Carr and/or Flowers to make the list this year, but they obviously aren't and Bowe should have been in the 90's or something man!

[Bump]

McFadden at 60 is a ****ing travesty.

not really, he was a beast before his injury.

[Bump]

and I wasn't surprised at all with Manning at #49. It says something if 1 player makes that big of a difference.

[BigMeatballDave]

not really, he was a beast before his injury.

He missed half the season. He shouldnt qualify.

Same as Manning at 50.

This list is a joke.

[BoneKrusher]

Matt Cassel didn't make the top 100?

[BigMeatballDave]

and I wasn't surprised at all with Manning at #49. It says something if 1 player makes that big of a difference.

By this rationale, JC should be on this list.

[BigMeatballDave]

Why is AJ Green on this list and Bowe is not?

[ModSocks]

I'm gonna be pissed if Hali doesn't make the list. I'm starting to think he's gonna get snubbed, but I don't think there hasn't been many top pass rushing linebackers yet. I was expecting Carr and/or Flowers to make the list this year, but they obviously aren't and Bowe should have been in the 90's or something man!

Hali isn't getting snubbed. He just made his second consecutive Pro Bowl and he sacked Aaron Rodgers.

Sacking Aaron Rodgers and beating the packers probably gave him more recognition than the rest of his career put together.

[whoman69]

Matt Cassel didn't make the top 1000?

fyp

[Okie_Apparition]

KCChiefs.com lets the cat 3/4ths out da bag

[Bump]

By this rationale, JC should be on this list.

no, that's not the same logic at all. First to worst is pretty drastic.

[Saccopoo]

Nhamdi Asamoughua went from the AFCW to the NFCE and didn't fare as well...wonder how that will effect Brandon Carr.

DJ is one of if not the best coverage linebackers in football and has been relatively injury free his entire career. (knocks on wood)...add to that his impact ability in the run game and he is one hell of a great player.

It's a shame Gunther ****ed up so much of his career.

Let's be serious.

Johnson has shown up for a season and a half. Prior to that, he was demoted to third string/special teams because he was a lazy, out of shape slack ass.

It wasn't Gunther that fucked up his career, it was DJ. You've got to show a little motivation. Credit Haley with it, credit DJ looking at his own legacy with it, whatever...

With guys like London Fletcher, Pat Willis, Brian Urlacher, Ray Lewis, Jon Beason, Jerod Mayo, DeMeco Ryans, Jon Vilma, etc., let's not go beserk on Johnson just yet.

He's shown amazing flashes the past two years, with 2011 being a very good year for him, but he's got a lot to prove and a lot to make up for in terms of performance on the field.

[BigMeatballDave]

Let's be serious.

Johnson has shown up for a season and a half.

He's been solid the last 2 seasons.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Let's be serious.

Johnson has shown up for a season and a half. Prior to that, he was demoted to third string/special teams because he was a lazy, out of shape slack ass.

It wasn't Gunther that fucked up his career, it was DJ. You've got to show a little motivation. Credit Haley with it, credit DJ looking at his own legacy with it, whatever...

With guys like London Fletcher, Pat Willis, Brian Urlacher, Ray Lewis, Jon Beason, Jerod Mayo, DeMeco Ryans, Jon Vilma, etc., let's not go beserk on Johnson just yet.

He's shown amazing flashes the past two years, with 2011 being a very good year for him, but he's got a lot to prove and a lot to make up for in terms of performance on the field.

He was named to the All Pro team for fuck's sake. That isn't a fluke. Let's just enjoy his quality play.

[Okie_Apparition]

FoxSports version -slide show format

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/lists/Top-100-NFL-players-51-100-Jay-Cutler-Troy-Polamalu-062112#photo-title=NFL%2527s+Top+100+players%253A+100-51&photo=31140642

[Bump]

Let's be serious.

Johnson has shown up for a season and a half. Prior to that, he was demoted to third string/special teams because he was a lazy, out of shape slack ass.

It wasn't Gunther that ****ed up his career, it was DJ. You've got to show a little motivation. Credit Haley with it, credit DJ looking at his own legacy with it, whatever...

With guys like London Fletcher, Pat Willis, Brian Urlacher, Ray Lewis, Jon Beason, Jerod Mayo, DeMeco Ryans, Jon Vilma, etc., let's not go beserk on Johnson just yet.

He's shown amazing flashes the past two years, with 2011 being a very good year for him, but he's got a lot to prove and a lot to make up for in terms of performance on the field.

DJ has been one of the most complete MLB's in the game. There is nothing to knock on him now. Coaching fucked up his career early on, the difference that Romeo has made is amazing to say the least.

[BigMeatballDave]

no, that's not the same logic at all. First to worst is pretty drastic.

Not being on the list isn't 'worst'.

[Bump]

Not being on the list isn't 'worst'.

:spock:


Colts with Peyton Manning = Superbowl contenders, never lose division.

Colts without Peyton Manning = #1 draft pick overall

ya, he's that big of a deal

[BigMeatballDave]

:spock:


Colts with Peyton Manning = Superbowl contenders, never lose division.

Colts without Peyton Manning = #1 draft pick overall

ya, he's that big of a deal

You said 1st to worst.

Not being on the list doesn't mean you're the worst.

[BigMeatballDave]

Bump,

Yes, I'm trolling you.

[Rain Man]

and I wasn't surprised at all with Manning at #49. It says something if 1 player makes that big of a difference.

I'll let you have Manning's performance for 2011, and I'll take Ryan Fitzpatrick's, and let's see who wins.

[WhiteWhale]

:spock:


Colts with Peyton Manning = Superbowl contenders, never lose division.

Colts without Peyton Manning = #1 draft pick overall

ya, he's that big of a deal

Nobody wants to acknowledge this, but the colts were a rapidly declining team. They barely made the playoffs in '10, and chances are they would have been far closer to a middling team than a playoff contender. It all worked out well for them, but they were a fringe playoff team at best if Manning was there last year.