Father catches man abusing 4-yo daughter, beats him to death

[RockChalk]

I'd probably do the same thing. Hope he doesn't get charged with anything, as he just saved taxpayers a lot of money.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/06/11/justice/texas-abuser-killed/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

CNN.com

(CNN) -- A Texas father caught a man sexually assaulting his 4-year-old daughter and punched him in the head repeatedly, killing him, authorities said.

The father was casually acquainted with the alleged abuser, said Lavaca County Sheriff Micah Harmon.

Neither has been publicly identified.

The girl was left inside the family's house during the social gathering, while other members of her family were tending to horses, the sheriff said.

The alleged abuser was known for his horse-grooming abilities, Harmon said.

The father returned to the house, caught the man in the act, and stopped him by striking him in the head several times, Harmon said.

The man was pronounced dead on the scene, while the daughter was taken to a local hospital in Victoria, Texas, for examinations before being released.

The incident took place Saturday.

Harmon described the girl as "OK besides the obvious mental trauma."

Asked whether they would press charges against the father, the sheriff responded, "You have a right to defend your daughter. He acted in defense of his third person. Once the investigation is completed we will submit it to the district attorney who then submits it to the grand jury, who will decide if they will indict him."

Harmon described the dad as "very remorseful," adding that he didn't know the man was going to die.

Authorities were withholding the deceased man's name while they notified next of kin. Officials did not know immediately if he has a prior criminal history.
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[vailpass]

My heart goes out to that little girl and her family.

[Saul Good]

Hope nothing happens to the dad. It's Texas, so he might walk.

[qabbaan]

Good riddance. We can only hope he suffered.

[Bwana]

No big loss in this case.

[Kraus]

The dad will walk.

[vailpass]

Hope nothing happens to the dad. It's Texas, so he might be given a medal.

Some things I like very much about Texas.

[pr_capone]

They should bury the abuser in a shallow and unmarked grave.

[Mile High Mania]

The father should receive a medal...

[tooge]

need to let dad walk to set precedent for future rapist killings

[Fish]

Hero.

[chasedude]

One less sick bastard on the planet, keep it going.

[Radar Chief]

Wow. Can’t say I wouldn’t have done the same thing.

[tooge]

yeah, even if you didn't want to kill him and would rather see him rot in prison, the pure rage would take over and you wouldn't be able to stop pumelling his head.

[MIAdragon]

My heart goes out to that little girl and her family.

this

[Old Dog]

Good for Dad. I hope the little girl is able to overcome the mental scarring that could come from this.

[BigMeatballDave]

They won't charge him. You'd never get a jury to convict.

Most fathers would do the same.

I know I would.

[mikey23545]

"A Texas father caught a man sexually assaulting his 4-year-old daughter and punched him in the head repeatedly, killing him, authorities said."


:clap:

[Deberg_1990]

I'd probably do the same thing. Hope he doesn't get charged with anything, as he just saved taxpayers a lot of money.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/06/11/justice/texas-abuser-killed/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

:clap:

[BoneKrusher]

Good for Dad. I hope the little girl is able to overcome the mental scarring that could come from this.

exactly what i was gonna say.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

One less sick bastard in the world.

[Graystoke]

I would do the same thing.

[Donger]

I would imagine the same thing will happen here:

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[Frazod]

Bravo :clap:

And hopefully the perpetrator is currently getting violated by a flaming tree trunk in hell.

[BigChiefFan]

Chalk one up for the good guys. It's good to hear the sherriff say he had a RIGHT to defend his little girl-I have always believed that, but you hear all too often about someone defending themselves getting arrested.

[BigMeatballDave]

I would imagine the same thing will happen here:

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That's not quite the same thing.

[Bump]

if the father gets charged with anything. I will sign a petition if there is one. I have no idea what Texas laws are like, but who the hell knows with our "justice" system.

What parent wouldn't do the same thing? My God.

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

Justice has been served. The judge and jury will give the man a standing ovation. Don't mess with Texas.

[DeezNutz]

Addition by subtraction.

Also, some prop things to the Sheriff, who already seems to be working a justification for the man on multiple fronts by noting his right to defend his family member, remorse, and lack of intent.

Good work by dad and law enforcement at this point, it seems.

[Bump]

I would imagine the same thing will happen here:

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[Bwana]

I would imagine the same thing will happen here:

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Another happy ending. 5 years probation. :clap:

[fan4ever]

I think one of the main reasons child molesting is on the rise is when these guys get caught and prosecuted they get to stay in protective custody; away from the rest of the prison populace. This guy won't have that opportunity.

[Frazod]

Another happy ending. 5 years probation. :clap:

I've seen that before - it's great. Except for the dumbass cop yelling "WHY?" over and over. Why? Really? :shake:

[Reerun_KC]

I've seen that before - it's great. Except for the dumbass cop yelling "WHY?" over and over. Why? Really? :shake:

do you really need to ask Why?

Morons....

[R8RFAN]

Don't you angry Republicans think he could have possibly been rehabilitated?

[Phobia]

I like swift justice. They used to take guys out and hang them on the square. That will make you think twice about breaking the law.

[Valiant]

Awesome end result. Hopefully girl recovers without trauma.

/obilagatory was it dane?

[mlyonsd]

I think one of the main reasons child molesting is on the rise is when these guys get caught and prosecuted they get to stay in protective custody; away from the rest of the prison populace. This guy won't have that opportunity.Is this true? That's BS.

[Reerun_KC]

And props to this dad, IF ever caught anyone hurting my daughter or my son, I would destroy their lives...

I have zero mercy or tolerance for shit like this...

[Bump]

Is this true? That's BS.

yes, at least in some prisons. I've seen in on Lockup or one of those shows. I think that's BS, let the inmates go at them and follow their prison code, at least there is some honor there.

[whoman69]

Hope nothing happens to the dad. It's Texas, so he might walk.

Temporary insanity. Done deal.

[Reerun_KC]

When I saw this, I thought of GoFraud....

He would be just the type of person to rape a 4 year old girl...

[Lzen]

Don't you angry Republicans think he could have possibly been rehabilitated?

Is this a joke?:spock:

[Amnorix]

I think one of the main reasons child molesting is on the rise is when these guys get caught and prosecuted they get to stay in protective custody; away from the rest of the prison populace. This guy won't have that opportunity.


I'm not at all certain what the reported rate trend is, but I really do doubt that child molesting is on the rise. What would be far more likely is that over the last 20 years or so, especially, people have come to se eit as the horrible crime it is and to report it. How many people knew and covered up for the priests that were molesting kids back in the 60s, 70s and 80s? How many covered up for family members out of shame?

Separate from reported rates is media coverage of the same. Because of the new age we live in, news is really national/international in scope much moreso than it was even 30 years ago. Back then national news was whatever was on the 30 minutes of the nightly news with Cronkite, etc. Otherwise, news was predominantly LOCAL.

Now, if some pedophile issue rears its head in Seattle, then it's going to be nationwide news within days, and talked about for days, until it's resolved, and people from Michigan to Maine will be more conscious about, and a little more nervous, as a result of an issue that really isn't going on anywhere near them (at least nto that specific issue).

The combination of increased reporting of incidents, plus changes in media/perception, make people feel less safe in a US that is increasingly safer. Violent crimes are dramatically DOWN over the last 30 years or so, but people don't really feel safer because a mass murderer 2,500 miles away gets much more extensive coverage now than it did then.

[ModSocks]

I think one of the main reasons child molesting is on the rise is when these guys get caught and prosecuted they get to stay in protective custody; away from the rest of the prison populace. This guy won't have that opportunity.

I think the main reason Child Molesting is on the rise is because of the exposure to porn thanks to the Internet. Kind of like drugs, some people keep looking for more and more explicit material to get off to. For some, it's kiddie porn. Next thing ya know, just looking at it isn't good enough anymore.

[ModSocks]

I'm not at all certain what the reported rate trend is, but I really do doubt that child molesting is on the rise. What would be far more likely is that over the last 20 years or so, especially, people have come to se eit as the horrible crime it is and to report it. How many people knew and covered up for the priests that were molesting kids back in the 60s, 70s and 80s? How many covered up for family members out of shame?

Separate from reported rates is media coverage of the same. Because of the new age we live in, news is really national/international in scope much moreso than it was even 30 years ago. Back then national news was whatever was on the 30 minutes of the nightly news with Cronkite, etc. Otherwise, news was predominantly LOCAL.

Now, if some pedophile issue rears its head in Seattle, then it's going to be nationwide news within days, and talked about for days, until it's resolved, and people from Michigan to Maine will be more conscious about, and a little more nervous, as a result of an issue that really isn't going on anywhere near them (at least nto that specific issue).

The combination of increased reporting of incidents, plus changes in media/perception, make people feel less safe in a US that is increasingly safer. Violent crimes are dramatically DOWN over the last 30 years or so, but people don't really feel safer because a mass murderer 2,500 miles away gets much more extensive coverage now than it did then.


I agree, but i also feel like internet porn addiction can be a driving force as well.

[Radar Chief]

I would imagine the same thing will happen here:

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Wow, you can see the guys hair fly when the gun goes off.

[Reerun_KC]

Wow, you can see the guys hair fly when the gun goes off.

That was pure justice right there...

Props to the dad...

[vailpass]

When I saw this, I thought of GoFraud....

..

dude

[Ace Gunner]

good

[Reerun_KC]

dude
Dude what?


He would be a likely canidate to do something that stupid...

[vailpass]

Dude what?


He would be a likely canidate to do something that stupid...

Agreed on the stupid. But that type of act goes so far beyond stupid into criminally and mentally deranged that I wouldn't put that shit on anyone who didn't prove they had earned it.
Just me, just sayin'....

[Garcia Bronco]

The dad will walk.


I wouldn't convict him in my "application of the Law"

[Reerun_KC]

Agreed on the stupid. But that type of act goes so far beyond stupid into criminally and mentally deranged that I wouldn't put that shit on anyone who didn't prove they had earned it.
Just me, just sayin'....

Understand.

[vailpass]

Understand.

Likewise.

[BigMeatballDave]

Don't you angry Republicans think he could have possibly been rehabilitated?

No. There is only death.

[Garcia Bronco]

Don't you angry Republicans think he could have possibly been rehabilitated?

Studies have statistically shown that no...they cannot.

[R8RFAN]

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[WhiteWhale]

I think one of the main reasons child molesting is on the rise is when these guys get caught and prosecuted they get to stay in protective custody; away from the rest of the prison populace. This guy won't have that opportunity.

IT's on the rise because we don't put them in prison for life.

Look.. homosexuality isn't a choice. They're born that way.

So are pedophiles. You can't rehabilitate them. You just gotta get rid of them for the sake of every child they could come in contact with.

[R8RFAN]

IT's on the rise because we don't put them in prison for life.

Look.. homosexuality isn't a choice. They're born that way.

So are pedophiles. You can't rehabilitate them. You just gotta get rid of them for the sake of every child they could come in contact with.

What about Bisexuals? Are they born that way too?

[Reerun_KC]

What about Bisexuals? Are they born that way too?

You tell us...

[BigMeatballDave]

I think the main reason Child Molesting is on the rise is because of the exposure to porn thanks to the Internet. Kind of like drugs, some people keep looking for more and more explicit material to get off to. For some, it's kiddie porn. Next thing ya know, just looking at it isn't good enough anymore.

Huh? Pedophilia has nothing to do with porn.

Its a disease, and the only cure is death.

Looking at Porn is nothing.

[HemiEd]

The dad will walk.

As he should.

Hopefully this gets a lot of press and makes some other sickos think about the consequences.

[Otter]

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[Garcia Bronco]

Look.. homosexuality isn't a choice. They're born that way.

So are pedophiles.

Both those statements are completely debateable.

[BigMeatballDave]

R8ers must be drinking today.

[WhiteWhale]

Both those statements are completely debateable.

Not really.

Pedophiles pretty much ALWAYS commit more sex offenses when they're released. That's what they're attracted to.

Nobody chooses what gives them a boner. People can choose where to stick it though.

I didn't choose to be attracted to women, and I really doubt you did either. 10% of all mammals on earth are gay. It's pretty much absolute. That's just how it is.

Pedos molest kids, get out, and molest more. You can't rehabilitate them.

[R8RFAN]

R8ers must be drinking today.

Nope, I think I am going to go take a nap, have to work tonite... Just trying to stoke the moonbat fire a bit...

If this guy had raped and murdered that child and went on trial and was convicted to death there would have been many moonbats with candles outside of the prison on the night he is set to die.

[WhiteWhale]

I think the main reason Child Molesting is on the rise is because of the exposure to porn thanks to the Internet. Kind of like drugs, some people keep looking for more and more explicit material to get off to. For some, it's kiddie porn. Next thing ya know, just looking at it isn't good enough anymore.

There's no evidence to support this, but you can believe it if you want.

A person's sexual orientation doesn't change because of viewing porn. It's hardwired.

[R8RFAN]

Not really.

Pedophiles pretty much ALWAYS commit more sex offenses when they're released. That's what they're attracted to.

Nobody chooses what gives them a boner. People can choose where to stick it though.

I didn't choose to be attracted to women, and I really doubt you did either. 10% of all mammals on earth are gay. It's pretty much absolute. That's just how it is.

Animals aren't gay, they don't even know they are going to die one day, how in the hell can they know they are gay?

[WhiteWhale]

Animals aren't gay, they don't even know they are going to die one day, how in the hell can they know they are gay?

Who the fuck said they were self aware?

When a male dog humps another male dog, it's a pretty good indication. It's not like they hold a meeting with their parents and come out of the closet... they're ANIMALS.

If you go to Africa and see two giraffes f**king on the steppes, there's a good chance they're both males. I'm not sure what you qualify as gay, but two males butt-fucking qualifies in my book.

[Garcia Bronco]

Not really.

Pedophiles pretty much ALWAYS commit more sex offenses when they're released. That's what they're attracted to.

Nobody chooses what gives them a boner. People can choose where to stick it though.

I didn't choose to be attracted to women, and I really doubt you did either. 10% of all mammals on earth are gay. It's pretty much absolute. That's just how it is.

Pedos molest kids, get out, and molest more. You can't rehabilitate them.

I didn't say they decided to be pedophiles....what I said was that the the possbility exists they aren't "born" that way. To be even more specific, I am saying their behavior is a function of experience and not genetics. Same goes for homosexuals.

[tooge]

raiders fan dont know they are gay, so why cant animals?

[BigMeatballDave]

Nope, I think I am going to go take a nap, have to work tonite... Just trying to stoke the moonbat fire a bit...

If this guy had raped and murdered that child and went on trial and was convicted to death there would have been many moonbats with candles outside of the prison on the night he is set to die.

This has nothing to do with moonbats.

He wasn't convicted and given a death sentence.

[mr. tegu]

IT's on the rise because we don't put them in prison for life.

Look.. homosexuality isn't a choice. They're born that way.

So are pedophiles. You can't rehabilitate them. You just gotta get rid of them for the sake of every child they could come in contact with.

Pedophiles born that way? In some cases I suppose, but as an absolute statement that is not really true on any level.

[Saul Good]

Who the **** said they were self aware?

When a male dog humps another male dog, it's a pretty good indication. It's not like they hold a meeting with their parents and come out of the closet... they're ANIMALS.

If you go to Africa and see two giraffes f**king on the steppes, there's a good chance they're both males. I'm not sure what you qualify as gay, but two males butt-****ing qualifies in my book.

Dogs hump each other to establish dominance, not because they are gay. I have a female dog that humps other dogs of both genders.

[mikey23545]

Not really.

Pedophiles pretty much ALWAYS commit more sex offenses when they're released. That's what they're attracted to.

Nobody chooses what gives them a boner. People can choose where to stick it though.

I didn't choose to be attracted to women, and I really doubt you did either. 10% of all mammals on earth are gay. It's pretty much absolute. That's just how it is.

Pedos molest kids, get out, and molest more. You can't rehabilitate them.


And that's pretty much absolute bullshit.


"The best current estimates seem to be roughly 3-4% of males over 18 in the US are gay or bisexual, and 1.5-2% of women.

This is based on The Social Organization of Sex: Sexual Practices in the United States, which reports that 2.8% of males and 1.4% of females identify as homosexual/bisexual, with .9% of females identifying as exclusively lesbian and about 2% of males identifying as exclusively gay."

[WhiteWhale]

I didn't say they decided to be pedophiles....what I said was that the the possbility exists they aren't "born" that way. To be even more specific, I am saying their behavior is a function of experience and not genetics. Same goes for homosexuals.

Well whatever it is it's something that is triggered before sexual maturity.

I can't really argue that. I know it's something that can't be fixed.

With Homos that's cool. They're not hurting anyone. I don't care.

With pedos they just need to die.

[R8RFAN]

Who the **** said they were self aware?

When a male dog humps another male dog, it's a pretty good indication. It's not like they hold a meeting with their parents and come out of the closet... they're ANIMALS.

If you go to Africa and see two giraffes f**king on the steppes, there's a good chance they're both males. I'm not sure what you qualify as gay, but two males butt-****ing qualifies in my book.

They aren't having sexual intercourse, they are masturbating on the other animal

[Omaha]

Dogs hump each other to establish dominance, not because they are gay. I have a female dog that humps other dogs of both genders.

That's cool & all, but it doesn't explain why I cant get my sisters-in-law to scissor.

[BigMeatballDave]

And that's pretty much absolute bullshit.


"The best current estimates seem to be roughly 3-4% of males over 18 in the US are gay or bisexual, and 1.5-2% of women.

This is based on The Social Organization of Sex: Sexual Practices in the United States, which reports that 2.8% of males and 1.4% of females identify as homosexual/bisexual, with .9% of females identifying as exclusively lesbian and about 2% of males identifying as exclusively gay."

What is exclusively gay?

You either suck dick or you do not suck dick.

[Valiant]

Agreed on the stupid. But that type of act goes so far beyond stupid into criminally and mentally deranged that I wouldn't put that shit on anyone who didn't prove they had earned it.
Just me, just sayin'....

Lol, well some of the stuff he has done would validate the theory.

[Frazod]

Huh? Pedophilia has nothing to do with porn.

Its a disease, and the only cure is death.

Looking at Porn is nothing.

Yep. Child molesters should be put down.

Child molesters who abuse positions of authority to entice their victims should be put down slowly.

[WhiteWhale]

They aren't having sexual intercourse, they are masturbating on the other animal

Oh, well that's totally different.

Masturbating on a guy's body is totally not gay at all.

So I guess I know where the line is now. :D

I don't really care about this conversation, so I"m done with it. I don't give a fuck about homos.

The point I was making is you can't rehabilitate pedophiles and they should be lined up and shot rather than wasting resources trying to fix them.

[Valiant]

And that's pretty much absolute bullshit.


"The best current estimates seem to be roughly 3-4% of males over 18 in the US are gay or bisexual, and 1.5-2% of women.

This is based on The Social Organization of Sex: Sexual Practices in the United States, which reports that 2.8% of males and 1.4% of females identify as homosexual/bisexual, with .9% of females identifying as exclusively lesbian and about 2% of males identifying as exclusively gay."

Really? I would say 6-10% of females are gay/bisexual. But they probably changed their position after having kids.

[mr. tegu]

Well whatever it is it's something that is triggered before sexual maturity.

I can't really argue that. I know it's something that can't be fixed.

With Homos that's cool. They're not hurting anyone. I don't care.

With pedos they just need to die.

What makes you say that?

[lcarus]

I might do the same thing even if I didn't know the 4 year old girl.

[Omaha]

I might do the same thing even if I didn't know the 4 year old girl.

Please tell me you mean that you'd beat someone to death.

[tooge]

I might do the same thing even if I didn't know the 4 year old girl.

I might do the same thing unless the little girl was fat/ Omaha

[Fish]

Who the fuck said they were self aware?

When a male dog humps another male dog, it's a pretty good indication. It's not like they hold a meeting with their parents and come out of the closet... they're ANIMALS.

If you go to Africa and see two giraffes f**king on the steppes, there's a good chance they're both males. I'm not sure what you qualify as gay, but two males butt-fucking qualifies in my book.

:facepalm:

Lots of misinformation.......

[HemiEd]

Agreed on the stupid. But that type of act goes so far beyond stupid into criminally and mentally deranged that I wouldn't put that shit on anyone who didn't prove they had earned it.
Just me, just sayin'....

No kidding, that is sick just to suggest that of someone.

[Amnorix]

I think the main reason Child Molesting is on the rise is because of the exposure to porn thanks to the Internet. Kind of like drugs, some people keep looking for more and more explicit material to get off to. For some, it's kiddie porn. Next thing ya know, just looking at it isn't good enough anymore.

I agree, but i also feel like internet porn addiction can be a driving force as well.


:spock:

Oh hell no. Do you know how BIG internet porn is? It's a multi-BILLION dollar industry per year. If watching porn on the internet turned men into pedophiles, then 47% of all men would be pedophiles for chrissakes.

Seriously, you're either attracted to a 5 year old or you're not. No matter how much porn you watch that's not going to change.

[vailpass]

That's cool & all, but it doesn't explain why I cant get my sisters-in-law to scissor.

LMAO

[big nasty kcnut]

Best ending ever. I pray that young girl forget that evil and have a great life of happiness.

[excessive]

Dogs hump each other to establish dominance, not because they are gay. I have a female dog that humps other dogs of both genders.

Maybe you can't call them gay, but these penguins are some sick ****ers. Keep reading and you'll see estimates that over 1,500 species exhibit homosexuality. Yes, and there are pedo penguins.



Penguins' Explicit Sex Acts Shocked Polar Explorer
LiveScience.comBy Jeanna Bryner, LiveScience Managing Editor | LiveScience.com


George Levick's "Sex Habits of Adelie Penguins" was written in 1915 and described some behaviors that shocked the surgeon and avid zoologist.

Hidden for nearly 100 years for being too "graphic," a report of "hooligan" behaviors, including sexual coercion, by Adelie penguins observed during Captain Scott's 1910 polar expedition has been uncovered and interpreted.

The naughty notes were rediscovered recently at the Natural History Museum in Tring, in England, and published in the recent issue of the journal Polar Record.

George Levick, a surgeon and the medical officer on Scott's famous 1910-1913 expedition to the South Pole, called the Terra Nova expedition, detailed his account of the penguins' seemingly odd behaviors in a four-page pamphlet "Sexual Habits of Adélie Penguins" in 1915. (The expedition, led by Navy Captain Robert Falcon Scott, would arrive at the South Pole to discover that Amundsen had beaten them there.)

"As it was boldly headed 'Not for Publication' it immediately caught my eye," Douglas Russell, who discovered the pamphlet, told LiveScience. "As the curator of birds eggs and nests at the Natural History Museum and having had a long-standing interest in polar research, I knew of George Murray Levick and that this was, as the header suggested, fascinating but totally unpublished work."

During their journey, Levick observed and recorded details on the lives of the Adélie penguin (Pygoscelis adeliae) colony on Cape Adare. He even recorded the very first penguin at the colony — the world's largest of this species — on Oct. 13, 1911.

"Some of the things he noticed profoundly shocked him," Russell said. For instance, Levick noted the penguins' autoerotic tendencies, and the seemingly aberrant behavior of young unpaired males and females, including necrophilia, sexual coercion, sexual and physical abuse of chicks, non-procreative sex and homosexual behaviors. [See Levick's Notes his Penguin Photos]

Considered too explicit for society at the time, the pamphlet wasn't published with the other Terra Nova expedition reports. As such, it remained hidden in the bird collections at the museum to be uncovered recently by Russell.

"Levick's notes were decades ahead of their time and possibly the first ever attempt to reveal the more challenging aspects of bird behavioral strategies to the academic world," Russell said in a statement.

At the time, Levick was so shocked by what he saw he recorded the events in Greek to disguise the information, at one point writing, "There seems to be no crime too low for these penguins."

For instance, on Nov. 10, 1911, Levick wrote in Greek (translated here): "This afternoon I saw a most extraordinary site [sic]. A Penguin was actually engaged in sodomy upon the body of a dead white throated bird of its own species. The act occurred a full minute, the position taken up by the cock differing in no respect from that of ordinary copulation, and the whole act was gone through down to the final depression of the cloaca."

In another entry, this one written in English on Dec. 6 of that year, he wrote: "I saw another act of astonishing depravity today. A hen which had been in some way badly injured in the hindquarters was crawling painfully along on her belly. I was just wondering whether I ought to kill her or not, when a cock noticed her in passing, and went up to her. After a short inspection he deliberately raped her, she being quite unable to resist him." [Homosexual Tales: 10 Gay Animals]

Levick described penguins that waddled about the colony's outskirts terrorizing any straying chicks as "little knots of hooligans" in his pamphlet. "The crimes which they commit are such as to find no place in this book, but it is interesting indeed to note that, when nature intends them to find employment, these birds, like men, degenerate in idleness."

Homosexual behaviors in animals are no longer cause for hiding data, or even a blush. (Case in point: Dutch biologist Kees Moeliker won an Ig Nobel prize in 2010 for the first report of dead gay duck sex.)

Plenty of animals are out of the closet, so to speak, from dolphins and killer whales to bonobos and greylag geese. Some estimates put the number of animal species that practice same-sex coupling at 1,500.

And while Levick may have viewed the interactions between penguins through an anthropomorphic lens, today that's not the case, the researchers note.

Necrophilia, for instance, is not the same in penguins and humans; Rather than being sexually aroused by a hot gal, male penguins are chemically wired to respond in certain ways to a seemingly compliant female of breeding age.

"I'm very pleased that, 97 years after Levick submitted it for publication, the study has finally been published," Russell said. In fact, no other studies on this colony have been published, the researchers note.

Some 100 copies of Levick's pamphlet were originally printed, though only two are known to exist today.

[ModSocks]

:spock:

Oh hell no. Do you know how BIG internet porn is? It's a multi-BILLION dollar industry per year. If watching porn on the internet turned men into pedophiles, then 47% of all men would be pedophiles for chrissakes.

Seriously, you're either attracted to a 5 year old or you're not. No matter how much porn you watch that's not going to change.

Im not saying it turns all men into pedo's. That'd be like saying ima go do Heroin because i smoke weed.

I'm saying that for SOME people, Porn addiction can quantify and a desire for more extreme forms of it can develop. Because there is so much of it online, it's easy for someone to wander into Child porn and develop a desire for it.

[jspchief]

IT's on the rise because we don't put them in prison for life.

Look.. homosexuality isn't a choice. They're born that way.

So are pedophiles. You can't rehabilitate them. You just gotta get rid of them for the sake of every child they could come in contact with.Agree 100%.

The fact that we have to have sexual predators lists just proves what we all know... these guys can't be rehabilitated.

Start executing them. maybe we'll get lucky and wipe that fucked up gene from the planet

[jspchief]

Im not saying it turns all men into pedo's. That'd be like saying ima go do Heroin because i smoke weed.

I'm saying that for SOME people, Porn addiction can quantify and a desire for more extreme forms of it can develop. Because there is so much of it online, it's easy for someone to wander into Child porn and develop a desire for it.I think that's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard.

Pedos have their wires crossed. They don't get that way from being normal people seeking bigger thrills.

[Braincase]

Dad gets 6-months probation, free lunch everywhere in town, followed by getting his record expunged by the governor and God Almighty.

[ModSocks]

Agree 100%.

The fact that we have to have sexual predators lists just proves what we all know... these guys can't be rehabilitated.

Start executing them. maybe we'll get lucky and wipe that ****ed up gene from the planet

It's funny how you wanna claim that Pedos are born that way (I disagree, i think it's developed at some stage in a person's life) but then you want to execute them and treat them as if they had made a choice.

Can't have your cake and eat it too.


....If only they could find the Pedo gene....then they can execute them as newborns, amirite?

Hell, i think i just found a new argument for pro-abortion.

[Iowanian]

As the father of a 4 year old daughter.....I'm both saddened by the trauma to that little girl and their family and happy that the father finished the job.

In Texas, he'll walk....and it should be at the front of a parade.

[Dave Lane]

So was it a priest?

[ModSocks]

I think that's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard.

Pedos have their wires crossed. They don't get that way from being normal people seeking bigger thrills.

Agree to disagree i suppose.

Not sure why a pre exposure to something which can lead to addiction/sickness is such a difficult concept to believe. We can apply it to many other things, but not kiddie porn?

[saphojunkie]

Good luck dating that girl in high school. Jeez.

[Iowanian]

So was it a priest?

Mods..please change Dave Lane's name to "Father Dave" or Pastor Lane.

[sedated]

Penguins' Explicit Sex Acts Shocked Polar Explorer
LiveScience.comBy Jeanna Bryner, LiveScience Managing Editor | LiveScience.com

This article annoyed me. Literally 10 paragraphs of "this is so SHOCKING" before getting to the point.

[BigMeatballDave]

Agree to disagree i suppose.

Not sure why a pre exposure to something which can lead to addiction/sickness is such a difficult concept to believe. We can apply it to many other things, but not kiddie porn?

I don't care what the problem is, I just know it needs to be eradicated.

Round them up like cattle, and lead them to slaughter.

They are the lowest form of scum. They have no place on this planet.

[BigMeatballDave]

Dad gets 6-months probation, free lunch everywhere in town, followed by getting his record expunged by the governor and God Almighty.

I don't think he'll be charged.

[TimeForWasp]

Who the **** said they were self aware?

When a male dog humps another male dog, it's a pretty good indication. It's not like they hold a meeting with their parents and come out of the closet... they're ANIMALS.

If you go to Africa and see two giraffes f**king on the steppes, there's a good chance they're both males. I'm not sure what you qualify as gay, but two males butt-****ing qualifies in my book.

When they hump your leg, what are they called?

[BigMeatballDave]

Im not saying it turns all men into pedo's. That'd be like saying ima go do Heroin because i smoke weed.

I'm saying that for SOME people, Porn addiction can quantify and a desire for more extreme forms of it can develop. Because there is so much of it online, it's easy for someone to wander into Child porn and develop a desire for it.

Porn can't turn anyone into a pedo.

Unless you're watching child porn, in which case, you're already a pedo.

[ModSocks]

I don't care what the problem is, I just know it needs to be eradicated.

Round them up like cattle, and lead them to slaughter.

They are the lowest form of scum. They have no place on this planet.

The way I look at it:

I don't think these people were born that way, i think they developed it. But, since it's essentially a sexual compulsion, i think there is no way to truly "cure" it. It's kind of sad really.

Once a pedo, always a pedo. Releasing them back into the world will only trigger their compulsion.

What to do with them? Shrug. But you can't release them.

[Donger]

There's no evidence to support this, but you can believe it if you want.

A person's sexual orientation doesn't change because of viewing porn. It's hardwired.

I agree with this. Pedophiles and homosexuals both have bad wiring.

[ModSocks]

Porn can't turn anyone into a pedo.

Unless you're watching child porn, in which case, you're already a pedo.

Porn addiction can drive certain types of people to seek new extremes to satisfy their sexual compulsion.

What about people who get off to Animal porn? Is there a Gene for that?

Or Scat? There a gene for that too?

BDSM?

Tranny Porn Gene?

Must be a gene for everything i guess.

We should find those kids that were born to fuck animals and diagnose them early on.



So yeah, i do believe that Porn can Create Pedos. I'm NOT saying all Pedo's were created by Porn, im saying Porn can aid in the development of more extreme sexual compulsions for people who don't know how to stop, just like some drugs can.

[ModSocks]

I agree with this. Pedophiles and homosexuals both have bad wiring.

Clearly Pedo's have their wires crossed, but the debate is whether Pedo's are pre-wired or re-wired.

And Pedo's shouldn't be compared to Homos.

[Donger]

Clearly Pedo's have their wires crossed, but the debate is whether Pedo's are pre-wired or re-wired.

And Pedo's shouldn't be compared to Homos.

I wasn't comparing the icky factor between the two, just that both have bad wiring.

I'm of the opinion that homosexuals are pre-wired, but I'm not sure of pedos. I've read and heard that homosexuals have always been attracted to same sex. What about pedos? Have they always been attracted to young people, even when they were young?

[ModSocks]

I wasn't comparing the icky factor between the two, just that both have bad wiring.

I'm of the opinion that homosexuals are pre-wired, but I'm not sure of pedos. I've read and heard that homosexuals have always been attracted to same sex. What about pedos? Have they always been attracted to young people, even when they were young?

I dont know enough about Pedos, but ive done some reading about sexual compulsions and kiddie porn can be lumped right in there with Animal Porn, Scat, gay porn and other extreme fetishes.

When these porn fetishes dont excite the user anymore, they could then seek the real thing to fulfill that sexual compulsion.

That would lead me to believe that at least SOME of these pedo's are created, rather than pre-wired, which could be a reason for the growing number of molestation cases.

And i agree, i think Gays are pre-wired.

[R8RFAN]

I dont know enough about Pedos, but ive done some reading about sexual compulsions and kiddie porn can be lumped right in there with Animal Porn, Scat, gay porn and other extreme fetishes.

When these porn fetishes dont excite the user anymore, they could then seek the real thing to fulfill that sexual compulsion.

That would lead me to believe that at least SOME of these pedo's are created, rather than pre-wired, which could be a reason for the growing number of molestation cases.

And i agree, i think Gays are pre-wired.

Wonder what the stats are on a man that will stick his penis where another man shits in relation to pedo activities?

[Fish]

I dont know enough about Pedos, but ive done some reading about sexual compulsions and kiddie porn can be lumped right in there with Animal Porn, Scat, gay porn and other extreme fetishes.

When these porn fetishes dont excite the user anymore, they could then seek the real thing to fulfill that sexual compulsion.

That would lead me to believe that at least SOME of these pedo's are created, rather than pre-wired, which could be a reason for the growing number of molestation cases.

And i agree, i think Gays are pre-wired.

You can't just throw out "When these porn fetishes don't excite...". You can't really make that assumption. Doing so indicates that you've already made an expectation of response. Correlation does not imply causation. "They", in your example, could also go on to a profitable career in fashion design. Or bowling.

That entire line of thinking is faulty.

[Easy 6]

My response is best summed up with... :bravo:

[BWillie]

You don't kill someone just because they molest children, as far as punishment from the state is concerned. I do agree they should be locked up for life, but that should be for any rapist. Why should it be any different if it was a child molestor? Executing someone for molestion or rape should never happen, but more severe punishment is because these ppl really dont change. But if you walk in and see someone molesting your daughter and kill them out of protection thats fine, if you kill them just because you are pissed its manslaughter plain and simple

[Donger]

Why should it be any different if it was a child molestor?

:spock:

[ModSocks]

You can't just throw out "When these porn fetishes don't excite...". You can't really make that assumption. Doing so indicates that you've already made an expectation of response. Correlation does not imply causation. "They", in your example, could also go on to a profitable career in fashion design. Or bowling.

That entire line of thinking is faulty.

Nothing faulty about it.

I'm not saying every person will. I'm saying some will.

Some people will never make it past traditional sex. Some People draw the line at Anal, or girl on girl. But some people will take their compulsion beyond what we consider normal, and some actually act upon their developed compulsions.

Just like a drug addict, everyone's limit is different.

[ModSocks]

You don't kill someone just because they molest children, as far as punishment from the state is concerned. I do agree they should be locked up for life, but that should be for any rapist. Why should it be any different if it was a child molestor? Executing someone for molestion or rape should never happen, but more severe punishment is because these ppl really dont change. But if you walk in and see someone molesting your daughter and kill them out of protection thats fine, if you kill them just because you are pissed its manslaughter plain and simple

When you catch some perv molesting your daughter, the line between protecting and being angry would be pretty damn blurred.

[demonhero]

Glad the POS is dead. Dam queers and sicko's.

[listopencil]

My heart goes out to that little girl and her family.

^

On a side note, I'd like to say a big Thank You to the Dad for taking out the trash.

[jspchief]

You don't kill someone just because they molest children, as far as punishment from the state is concerned. I do agree they should be locked up for life, but that should be for any rapist. Why should it be any different if it was a child molestor? Executing someone for molestion or rape should never happen, but more severe punishment is because these ppl really dont change. But if you walk in and see someone molesting your daughter and kill them out of protection thats fine, if you kill them just because you are pissed its manslaughter plain and simple

I guess we know who the resident pedo is.

[BigMeatballDave]

You don't kill someone just because they molest children, as far as punishment from the state is concerned. I do agree they should be locked up for life, but that should be for any rapist. Why should it be any different if it was a child molestor? Executing someone for molestion or rape should never happen, but more severe punishment is because these ppl really dont change. But if you walk in and see someone molesting your daughter and kill them out of protection thats fine, if you kill them just because you are pissed its manslaughter plain and simple

Kill 'em all!

[BigMeatballDave]

I guess we know who the resident pedo is.

:D

[Marcellus]

Has anyone seen Mecca lately? I know his grooming skills on a mane are impeccable.

[listopencil]

I guess we know who the resident pedo is.


But if you walk in and see someone molesting your daughter and kill them out of protection that's fine...

[BigMeatballDave]

I like when BWillie posts in the same thread I do.

I know for certain I'm not the dumbest person in the thread.

:)

[BIG_DADDY]

Better than making the tax payers pay to lock him up. Job well done.

[Frazod]

Child molesters (and I'm talking serious child molesters, not some 18 year old kid banging his 16 year old girlfriend) are inherently defective, dangerous and despicable. There is simply no place for them in society and they should be killed. Fuck treatment. Fuck prison. No quarter should be given.

[Cephalic Trauma]

Who the **** said they were self aware?

When a male dog humps another male dog, it's a pretty good indication. It's not like they hold a meeting with their parents and come out of the closet... they're ANIMALS.

If you go to Africa and see two giraffes f**king on the steppes, there's a good chance they're both males. I'm not sure what you qualify as gay, but two males butt-****ing qualifies in my book.

I think his point was they aren't aware that they are gay. They are simply relying on instinct because it feels good and there were no available females.

I myself believe homosexuality is something an individual is born with (and there's scientific proof backing this), but I do not agree on pedophilia.

[jspchief]

I don't care if they are born with it. If your wires are so crossed you choose to victimize a child over exercising self control, you have proven that you have a net negative value to society. Death penalty.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

I don't care if they are born with it. If your wires are so crossed you choose to victimize a child over exercising self control, you have proven that you have a net negative value to society. Death penalty.

I agree with this. As much as I believe this a mental ailment, some actions are so heinous, and detrimental to others that there should be zero opportunity for them to be repeated.

[mlyonsd]

Child molesters (and I'm talking serious child molesters, not some 18 year old kid banging his 16 year old girlfriend) are inherently defective, dangerous and despicable. There is simply no place for them in society and they should be killed. **** treatment. **** prison. No quarter should be given.Double this. One strike and you're out. If you're inflicted with this desire enough and act knowing what will happen to you if caught let the dude at the next level sort it out.

[listopencil]

I agree with this. As much as I believe this a mental ailment, some actions are so heinous, and detrimental to others that there should be zero opportunity for them to be repeated.

Suppose someone is born with it. I mean, suppose that due to their chemical/biological make up they find little kids sexually stimulating. That doesn't excuse acting on it. I see bunches of women on a regular basis that I find sexually attractive. In a lot of public places you will see sexually attractive women wearing revealing clothing. That doesn't give you an excuse to rape them.

[Braincase]

I don't think he'll be charged.

I bet he gets lunch.

[BigMeatballDave]

I bet he gets lunch.

I'll buy him a damn steak. :)

[manchambo]

Glad the POS is dead. Dam queers and sicko's.

Um he was molesting a girl.

[tredadda]

As a father of two little girls I would probably do the same thing. I hope he gets off though.

[lcarus]

Please tell me you mean that you'd beat someone to death.

Of course dude! Jeez...




I'd actually have to know the 4 year old girl really well to do the other thing you were thinking of...

[chasedude]

Update!!! I applaud the Grand Jury for their decision. Justice was taken care of, at no expense to the tax payer. :clap:

http://www.cnn.com/2012/06/19/us/texas-abuser-father/index.html

Grand jury: No indictment against father who killed daughter's alleged abuser

(CNN) -- A Lavaca County, Texas, grand jury did not return an indictment against a father who killed a man he found allegedly sexually abusing his daughter, officials said Tuesday at a press conference in Hallettsville, Texas.

"The substantial amount of evidence showed that the witness statements and the father's statement and what the father had observed was in fact what had happened that day," Lavaca County District Attorney Heather McMinn told reporters.

The father, who will not be charged, is not being named by CNN to protect the identity of his daughter.

The father called 911, and he and his family tried to "save the life" of alleged attacker Jesus Mora Flores "despite what they had just witnessed," McMinn added.

McMinn told CNN that Flores, 47, was not an acquaintance of the family.
According to the Lavaca County Sheriff's Office, the father and his family had gathered for a horse shoeing last Saturday at their ranch where they keep horses and chickens.

There were seven people in attendance in total, including four members of the family, two acquaintances and a stranger to the family, who was the alleged molester. According to McMinn, the alleged abuser was a legal worker from Mexico.

His 5-year-old daughter had gone off toward the barn, to feed the chickens, the child's grandfather told CNN affiliates KSAT and KPRC.

Then her father heard screaming and ran. He found a man sexually abusing his daughter, according to Sheriff Micah Harmon.

The father stopped the alleged abuser, and then pounded him repeatedly in the head, killing him, authorities said.

On the recorded 911 call, the father can be heard crying, and telling the operator, "I need an ambulance. This guy was raping my daughter and I beat him up. And I don't know ... I don't know what to do."

Later in the call, when the operator tells the caller, "I'm working on it if you can hold on," the emotional father says, "The guy's dying on me!"
McMinn also told CNN the child's grandfather and aunt both administered cardiopulmonary resuscitation.

Neither officials nor the family's attorney, V'Anne Huser, took questions from reporters Tuesday but Huser said in light of the grand jury's decision, "in our opinion, today, the story is over."

McMinn told CNN she had "never seen a case this clear" in her career.
The incident occurred outside the town of Shiner, a community between Houston and San Antonio that has about 2,000 people within its city limits and another 1,500 or so on its outskirts, according to the U.S. Census Bureau.

[BigMeatballDave]

Awesome

[Dr. Johnny Fever]

I didn't read the thread but if any guy hurts my daughter he better hope I misfire. I'd go to prison before I'd let him do it again.

[Messier]

It was a rage killing. I feel bad for the father. That's a lot to go through in a very short amount of time.

[chasedude]

It was a rage killing. I feel bad for the father. That's a lot to go through in a very short amount of time.
If it were for me my conscience wouldn't dwell long. Be it Karma,God, Texas justice, or whatever he was served a fist sandwich for his last supper.

[ZepSinger]

Awesome

If ever a killing was justified, it's this one. If any scumbag tried to do this with one of my daughters, I'd do the same thing. Not sure if I'd try to revive him, tho. Maybe just call in the hogs to eat him. Well, if I had hogs.

Z

[loochy]

This makes me feel a little bit better about our country.

[Saul Good]

Release his name so I can send him a thank you card for removing one sick bastard from this planet.

[JD10367]

Give him some brass knuckles and deputize him immediately.

[frankotank]

This makes me feel a little bit better about our country.

well.....the sad thing is that if he had survived, he'd have gone into the system to be supported by US, the tax payers, and eventually released back into the world after serving not enough time. that's how our countrys legal system works. he'd have been drawn and quartered in some places. hell the chop your hand off in some places for stealing bread....it's in those places that I'll bet they don't have to deal with child rapists as much.....

rape of an individual under a certain age should be an automatic death sentence. the US legal system should be killing bitches right and left. I'm not joking.

[Start Croyle]

He's definitely going to do time for murder/manslaughter!

I agree that most fathers would likely have a similar course of action in this scenario. But, if you kill someone in self-defense (or I guess defense of 3rd person), you have to prove that you had reason to believe that they were going to kill you (or 3rd person)! That's not going to happen in this case, even though our culture has become extremely sensitive to child welfare and protection!

Plus, at this point everyone is just taking the guy's word as fact about what happened!

[Saul Good]

He's definitely going to do time for murder/manslaughter!

I agree that most fathers would likely have a similar course of action in this scenario. But, if you kill someone in self-defense (or I guess defense of 3rd person), you have to prove that you had reason to believe that they were going to kill you (or 3rd person)! That's not going to happen in this case, even though our culture has become extremely sensitive to child welfare and protection!

Plus, at this point everyone is just taking the guy's word as fact about what happened!

He's going to be the first person ever to be convicted without even being indicted, then...or you're a dumbass...one of the two.

[rred]

then...are you're a dumbass...one of the two.

Wait... What?

[kepp]

He's going to be the first person ever to be convicted without even being charged, then...are you're a dumbass...one of the two.

That's just how they do it in Texas, dammit!

[Start Croyle]

I hadn't read the whole thread until now! I guess you can kill people and get away with it as long as you have a good excuse! I am surprised they aren't going to at least have a trial!

[Frazod]

I hadn't read the whole thread until now! I guess you can kill people and get away with it as long as you have a good excuse! I am surprised they aren't going to at least have a trial!

So I take it you're pro child molestation?

[BigCatDaddy]

I hadn't read the whole thread until now! I guess you can kill people and get away with it as long as you have a good excuse! I am surprised they aren't going to at least have a trial!

Why yes, yes you can as a matter of fact.

[tooge]

you can beat a scumbag to death when they are raping your daughter, yes. As it should be

[BigMeatballDave]

I hadn't read the whole thread until now! I guess you can kill people and get away with it as long as you have a good excuse! I am surprised they aren't going to at least have a trial!

Wow. What a fucking moron.

[whoman69]

There's one less.

[Rain Man]

Plus, at this point everyone is just taking the guy's word as fact about what happened!

I don't know if someone else has already mentioned it, but this would be an interesting way to get away with murder. Plant your child in the house, ask your enemy to go in and get some mustard for the hot dogs, and then follow him in and kill him. Then come out with this story.

I'm not saying that happened here, and don't know the facts at all. I'm just intrigued by its possibility as a strategy.

[Pitt Gorilla]

I don't know if someone else has already mentioned it, but this would be an interesting way to get away with murder. Plant your child in the house, ask your enemy to go in and get some mustard for the hot dogs, and then follow him in and kill him. Then come out with this story.

I'm not saying that happened here, and don't know the facts at all. I'm just intrigued by its possibility as a strategy.I thought about that as well. I have little doubt that the guy in this story was justified in killing the SOB. However, it also paints a rather clear picture for how to get away with murder and have mouth-breathers everywhere lining up to defend your actions.

[Bwana]

I hadn't read the whole thread until now! I guess you can kill people and get away with it as long as you have a good excuse! I am surprised they aren't going to at least have a trial!

:spock:

There is one less POS in the world, screw having a trial.

[frankotank]

I hadn't read the whole thread until now! I guess you can kill people and get away with it as long as you have a good excuse! I am surprised they aren't going to at least have a trial!

yup. if the legal system is working correctly, then yeah.....if you have a really good excuse....like someone RAPING YOUR CHILD!
WTF dude!?

[frankotank]

I don't know if someone else has already mentioned it, but this would be an interesting way to get away with murder. Plant your child in the house, ask your enemy to go in and get some mustard for the hot dogs, and then follow him in and kill him. Then come out with this story.

I'm not saying that happened here, and don't know the facts at all. I'm just intrigued by its possibility as a strategy.

I read somewhere that they found injuries on the child "consistent with the fathers account".

if there are levels of hell, that child rapist sob is at the bottom.