Minnesota Twins @ Kansas City Royals Game Thread (7/22)

[alnorth]

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<tr><td>Final</td> <td> 1 </td> <td> 2 </td><td> 3 </td><td> 4 </td><td> 5 </td><td> 6 </td><td> 7 </td><td> 8 </td><td> 9 </td><td> R </td><td> H </td><td> E </td></tr>
<tr> <td> MIN (40-55) </td> <td> 0 </td> <td> 1 </td><td> 4 </td><td> 0 </td><td> 0 </td><td> 1 </td><td> 1 </td><td> 0 </td><td> 0 </td><td> 7 </td><td> 8 </td><td> 0 </td></tr>
<tr> <td> KC (40-54) </td> <td> 0 </td> <td> 0 </td><td> 0 </td><td> 1 </td><td> 0 </td><td> 0 </td><td> 0 </td><td> 2 </td><td> 2 </td><td> 5 </td><td> 10 </td><td> 0 </td></tr>
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Win, (1-0) Sam Deduno 6⅓IP 1R 1ER 3BB 4K
Tyler Robertson ⅔IP 1R 1ER 0BB 0K
Anthony Swarzak 1IP 1R 1ER 0BB 1K 1HR
Glen Perkins 1IP 2R 2ER 0BB 1K 1HR

VS.

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Loss, (3-10) Jeremy Guthrie 5IP 5R 5ER 3BB 4K 1HR
Tim Collins 2IP 2R 2ER 0BB 2K 1HR
Louis Coleman 2IP 0R 0ER 1BB 3K

Home Runs

MIN

Ryan Doumit, (8) - Top 2nd solo shot to right
Ryan Doumit, (9) - Top 6th solo shot to left

KC

Billy Butler, (19) - Bottom 8th 2-run homer to left
Yuniesky Betancourt, (7) - Bottom 9th solo shot to left

Starting Lineups

MIN

1. Denard Span, CF
2. Ben Revere, RF
3. Joe Mauer, 1B
4. Josh Willingham, LF
5. Ryan Doumit, DH
6. Brian Dozier, SS
7. Alexi Casilla, 2B
8. Drew Butera, C
9. Jamey Carroll, 3B

KC

1. Alex Gordon, LF
2. Alcides Escobar, SS
2. Yuniesky Betancourt, ph
3. Mike Moustakas, 3B
4. Billy Butler, DH
5. Lorenzo Cain, CF
6. Salvador Perez, C
7. Jeff Francoeur, RF
8. Eric Hosmer, 1B
9. Chris Getz, 2B

[gblowfish]

Bring on Woody Guthrie!

[Dr. Johnny Fever]

In ftw and glad to have al doing game threads again.

Hey Guthrie, don't suck as bad as Neifi. I mean Sanchez.

[cabletech94]

al must do all threads from here on out!!!!!!

[BWillie]

Jeremy Guthrie actually had some positive and engaging tweets. Wouldn't ever see Sanchez say those things...just that his recent misfortune was "unlucky". Think Guthrie is ready for a new start

[Nightfyre]

So I was really bored this morning and wandered over to the burlington royals website...

Starling is currently 5th in the Appalachian league in OPS and 4th in OBP. Another Royal - Fred Ford - is 4th in the league in OPS. They've also got quite a few dominant pitchers down there. It will be interesting to see what develops out of there.

[Al Bundy]

I am just happy there is a starter with somewhat of a clue pitching instead of Sanchez or Verdugo

[Dr. Johnny Fever]

Jeremy Guthrie actually had some positive and engaging tweets. Wouldn't ever see Sanchez say those things...just that his recent misfortune was "unlucky". Think Guthrie is ready for a new start

Agreed. At least Guthrie isn't an attitude problem from the beginning. Fuck off and die Sanchez.

We're all behind you as long as you get people out and act like you care Guthrie.

[gblowfish]

We'll see how much we love him if he gives up six runs in 1 1/3rd.....

[BWillie]

So I was really bored this morning and wandered over to the burlington royals website...

Starling is currently 5th in the Appalachian league in OPS and 4th in OBP. Another Royal - Fred Ford - is 4th in the league in OPS. They've also got quite a few dominant pitchers down there. It will be interesting to see what develops out of there.

He better dominate the Appalachian league....hes older than Bryce Harper

[Nightfyre]

He better dominate the Appalachian league....hes older than Bryce Harper

Yawn. They are retooling his swing. He can come up at 26 years of age as far as I care. We've only got him for six years either way.

[Ceej]

Also, the Stormchasers game is on Ch 22 if you're in the Wichita, Topeka area.

However, Myers has the day off.

[Ceej]

But, Odo is on the bump.

[Nightfyre]

Also, the Stormchasers game is on Ch 22 if you're in the Wichita, Topeka area.

However, Myers has the day off.

Myers has been in a slump. He's like 2 for his last 19 or something.

[Ceej]

Myers has been in a slump. He's like 2 for his last 19 or something.

I was thinking I heard them say 5 for his last 24.

It looks like he will stay in Omaha for the rest of the year more and more.

Fuck me.

[DeezNutz]

Second day in a row for a good looking lineup. I'd switch Moose and Butler, but this is fine.

[Nightfyre]

I was thinking I heard them say 5 for his last 24.

It looks like he will stay in Omaha for the rest of the year more and more.

**** me.

Credit where its due to Moore, though. He didn't bring him up while he was hot. Bundy would be calling him "just another failure" at this point if he had.

[Ceej]

Second day in a row for a good looking lineup. I'd switch Moose and Butler, but this is fine.

MOAR GETZ!!!!!!!!

[Great Expectations]

Frenchy only left 6 guys on base yesterday. Baby steps

[Ceej]

Credit where its due to Moore, though. He didn't bring him up while he was hot. Bundy would be calling him "just another failure" at this point if he had.

Eh, I think it's irrelevant.

Who knows with nerves and all how a guy may or may not perform when called up.

[duncan_idaho]

Side note:

As bleak as the Royals' pitching outlook is, the Twins is much worse.

Their rotation is garbage this year and Liriano is certainly gone.

They really only have one good pitching prospect within a few years of the major league (Kyle Gibson) and he's coming back from TJ surgery, still. And his upside is fairly limited (4 starter with 3 upside. A little toned-down version of Odo).

And then there's ... nothing.

[Dr. Johnny Fever]

Side note:

As bleak as the Royals' pitching outlook is, the Twins is much worse.

Their rotation is garbage this year and Liriano is certainly gone.

They really only have one good pitching prospect within a few years of the major league (Kyle Gibson) and he's coming back from TJ surgery, still. And his upside is fairly limited (4 starter with 3 upside. A little toned-down version of Odo).

And then there's ... nothing.

And if we don't make at least 2 good free agent signings this coming off season we have nothing but prospects. We aren't really any better than Minny until we're really better.

[duncan_idaho]

And if we don't make at least 2 good free agent signings this coming off season we have nothing but prospects. We aren't really any better than Minny until we're really better.

Oh, I'm still firmly in that camp. THe Royals would need to win the lotto with a few things (returns from injury, sudden jumps forward in development) to have a better pitching situation without acquiring two starters before next year.

I was just shocked at how bleak the Twins' outlook was when I looked at it.

[cabletech94]

Frenchy only left 6 guys on base yesterday. Baby steps

this made me laugh.


and then sigh.

stoopid frenchy corner.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

this made me laugh.


and then sigh.

stoopid frenchy corner.

You a member of Betan's court?

[Canofbier]

Devil's advocate, here, at least for last night: at least a few of Frenchy's stranded runners came from a ball the he crushed into a double play. That particular play was just poor luck.

[DeezNutz]

Line drive DP just shit luck. Frenchy hit that as well as possible.

No credit to DM for leaving Myers down. Wrong decision. Kid is and has been ready.

[alnorth]

And if we don't make at least 2 good free agent signings this coming off season we have nothing but prospects. We aren't really any better than Minny until we're really better.

Last year I would have written some kind of reply to this, but after what we've seen, I'm starting to believe in TINSTAAPP

[lewdog]

Lewdog checking in for gameday action yet again. Let's see what we got in Guthrie. Just happy this team had the guts to cut a guy like Sanchez. What a complete douchebag assclown.

[stonedstooge]

When does Sanchez put in his first 1 1/3 innings for the Rockies?

[alnorth]

These pitchers look so bad on paper, that I'm bumping up the expected runs/game by about another 2 runs on the win probability calculator I'm using. It wont match fangraphs which uses the MLB average, but its probably more accurate.

[alnorth]

Top 1st

Span grounds out to first unassisted
Revere strikes out (swinging)
Mauer walks
Willingham grounds out to third

0 runs, 0 hits

Bottom 1st

Gordon grounds out to second
Escobar walks
Moustakas strikes out (swinging) into a 2-6 double play, Escobar caught stealing and out at second

0 runs, 0 hits

[Mr. Laz]

it will interesting to see the fly balls gunthrie allows

some of them the general fly ball outs here would of been home runs in Colorado

[Mr. Laz]

Perez is setting up really low for Gunthrie

[Great Expectations]

Guthrie has good movement, doesn't seem to change speeds much. Maybe that will change as the game wears on.

[Nightfyre]

It's just a feeling, but I bet Guthrie will be well-loved in the clubhouse.

[Ceej]

So far so good.

[Canofbier]

Bummer, thought Esky was safe. Maybe we'll get a replay next inning.

[alnorth]

Top 2nd

Doumit homers to right
Dozier flies out to left
Casilla strikes out (looking)
Butera flies out to left

1 run, 1 hit

Bottom 2nd

Butler grounds out to third
Cain grounds out to third
Perez singles to center
Francoeur grounds into a 6-4 fielder's choice, Perez out at second

0 runs, 1 hit

[cabletech94]

You a member of Betan's court?

when he hits HRs, yes.

when he runs, plays def, swings @ first pitches with the bases loaded, when he runs, no.

[cabletech94]

crap

[Canofbier]

Jesus, I think I could have hit that one.

[gblowfish]

Let's see how he reacts....

[Al Bundy]

Boom.. that was a clown pitch bro.

[Canofbier]

Nice pitch, that time.

[alnorth]

Top 3rd

Carroll singles to left
Span strikes out (swinging)
Revere walks, Carroll to second
Mauer walks, Revere to second, Carroll to third
Willingham pops out to shortstop
Doumit singles to left, Mauer to third, Revere and Carroll scores, Doumit to second on the throw home
Dozier doubles to left, Doumit and Mauer scores
Casilla grounds out to first 3-1

4 runs, 3 hits

Bottom 3rd

Hosmer strikes out (swinging)
Getz grounds out to first unassisted
Gordon singles to right
Escobar lines out to shortstop

0 runs, 1 hit

[Dr. Johnny Fever]

Not trying to be negative but we traded pos #1 for pos #2. Guthrie is no better than Sanchez, he just cares more. I'll gladly be wrong and eat my words. We got rid of Sanchez to help the team as much as picking up a guy to take his place. Both will be out of the league next year.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Not trying to be negative but we traded pos #1 for pos #2. Guthrie is no better than Sanchez, he just cares more. I'll gladly be wrong and eat my words. We got rid of Sanchez to help the team as much as picking up a guy to take his place. Both will be out of the league next year.

Nah, vet players always find homes. No matter how shitty they are. See Wells, Kip...Ponson, Sydney...and Weaver, Jeff

[lewdog]

Not trying to be negative but we traded pos #1 for pos #2. Guthrie is no better than Sanchez, he just cares more. I'll gladly be wrong and eat my words. We got rid of Sanchez to help the team as much as picking up a guy to take his place. Both will be out of the league next year.

Are you kidding, this guys is pitching into the 3rd inning already!

[Dr. Johnny Fever]

Nah, vet players always find homes. No matter how shitty they are. See Wells, Kip...Ponson, Sydney...and Weaver, Jeff

Sanchez found a home in KC you're right. I doubt he makes it past Colorado. Guthrie started with KC and left and sucked in Denver giving up homers that would be out in any park. Both guys are worthless. Again I'll be glad to be wrong about Guthrie. I'd still start him over Sanchise any day. Colorado is truly stupid.

[Nightfyre]

Not trying to be negative but we traded pos #1 for pos #2. Guthrie is no better than Sanchez, he just cares more. I'll gladly be wrong and eat my words. We got rid of Sanchez to help the team as much as picking up a guy to take his place. Both will be out of the league next year.

Guthrie may be mediocre, but Sanchez was flat unplayable. Not at all the same, imo.

[Dr. Johnny Fever]

Are you kidding, this guys is pitching into the 3rd inning already!

2 innings better than Sanchez. I'm wrong.

Hey I'm rooting for him. He's a Royal.

[gblowfish]

Do you think Hud's Great Grandfather was band leader on the deck of the Titanic?

[Nightfyre]

I don't think the Rockies are dumb either. They weren't going to pitch Guthrie, so they basically saved 1.1MM by giving him to us. Sanchez is just a lottery ticket they got thrown in.

EDIT: Watching Sanchez pitch in Colorado ought to be hilarious, though.

[Blankey]

I'd rather pound nails through my cock than hear Josh Hamilton spew BS about how god saved his life.

[Dr. Johnny Fever]

Guthrie may be mediocre, but Sanchez was flat unplayable. Not at all the same, imo.

OK. Luckily we have 5 #5 starters now instead of 4 #5's and a 10th.

Pitching is the currency of baseball. /Dayton Moore

[stonedstooge]

These walks look familiar

[Nightfyre]

OK. Luckily we have 5 #5 starters now instead of 4 #5's and a 10th.

Pitching is the currency of baseball. /Dayton Moore

I'm not arguing our rotation is shit. But we need an arm to eat some innings and take some wear and tear off of our pen. This is about injury mitigation at this point.

[gblowfish]

Ever notice on the Mauer commercial that its a Royals guy who hits the foul ball? And that chick is the classic baseball Annie. Grrrrr......wash my hair baby!

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[Dr. Johnny Fever]

I don't think the Rockies are dumb either. They weren't going to pitch Guthrie, so they basically saved 1.1MM by giving him to us. Sanchez is just a lottery ticket they got thrown in.

EDIT: Watching Sanchez pitch in Colorado ought to be hilarious, though.

I truly hope you're right. I'm usually one of the biggest homers here but I'm losing it this year. Again.

[lewdog]

I truly hope you're right. I'm usually one of the biggest homers here but I'm losing it this year. Again.

About fucking time you start to realize beerme! I was getting sick of your upbeat attitude. Join the rest of us losers.

[lewdog]

I'd rather pound nails through my cock than hear Josh Hamilton spew BS about how god saved his life.

Amen.

[gblowfish]

Well, 5-0 after two. That's very Sanchez like....

[stonedstooge]

I guess the altitude wasn't the problem?

[Al Bundy]

Well.. Guthrie is Sanchez. Eat shit you no talent piece of shit Guthrie.

[Nightfyre]

I guess the altitude wasn't the problem?
That would have been a homer at Coors :shrug:

[Al Bundy]

Well, 5-0 after two. That's very Sanchez like....

Yeah I already hate this guy. Well another day where a no talent clown gives the Royals ZERO chance of winning.

[Planetman]

***grabs tv remote***

*CLICK!!!*

Aaaahhh ... Much better.

[Al Bundy]

Maybe we should key Guthrie's car?

[Dr. Johnny Fever]

I'm not arguing our rotation is shit. But we need an arm to eat some innings and take some wear and tear off of our pen. This is about injury mitigation at this point.

Again... not argueing with you... but they came off the All Star Break 2 weeks ago. Pitchers used to be expected to throw 9 innings. Todays bullpens could stop acting and being treated like the pussys they are if they'd step up.

OMG I throw 10 pitches yesterday I can't pitch for another day. Bullpens and managers are pussys.

[GoHuge]

Actually I think he might be a little better. 5 runs after 3 is better than what Sanchez had been throwing up. I think his last start was 7 ER in 1 1/3 which makes this a solid improvement and trade by DM..........our time.

[stonedstooge]

Actually I think he might be a little better. 5 runs after 3 is better than what Sanchez had been throwing up. I think his last start was 7 ER in 1 1/3 which makes this a solid improvement and trade by DM..........our time.

Has to be the frontrunner for GM of the Year with the move, don't you think?

[Al Bundy]

Are the Royals going to just lay down now?

[Dr. Johnny Fever]

Enjoy Guthrie for 4 more starts. By then we're mathematically eliminated and he can piss off just like Sanchez.

Who'd think trading shit for shit would equal shit.

[lewdog]

Are the Royals going to just lay down now?

Are you still suggesting that this team loses because they all give up instead of admitting we have inferior talent, especially the starting pitching?

[BigMeatballDave]

Are the Royals going to just lay down now?

Looks like it.

July came around and they seem to have thrown in the towel.

[alnorth]

Top 4th

Butera grounds out to third
Carroll flies out to left
Span grounds out to first unassisted

0 runs, 0 hits

Bottom 4th

Moustakas walks
Butler singles to right, Moustakas to third
Cain sacrifices (fly) to center, Moustakas scores
Perez strikes out (swinging)
Francoeur flies out to left

1 run, 1 hit

[Al Bundy]

Are you still suggesting that this team loses because they all give up instead of admitting we have inferior talent, especially the starting pitching?

Man.. they are not inferior to the fucking Mariners and Twins... yet they are going to get the daylights kicked out of them by both of those sucky fucking teams. There was A LOT of laying down against the Mariners and today looks like a lay down type of day.

[BigMeatballDave]

Guthrie = Suckez part 2

[lewdog]

Man.. they are not inferior to the ****ing Mariners and Twins... yet they are going to get the daylights kicked out of them by both of those sucky ****ing teams. There was A LOT of laying down against the Mariners and today looks like a lay down type of day.

I would more relate those losses to shitty starting pitching rather than a bunch of professional ball players lying down. DM has to realize pitching has to come before good offense to win games.

[Dr. Johnny Fever]

2013 is our time guys. No really. We'll have one major league starter by then.

[Al Bundy]

I would more relate those losses to shitty starting pitching rather than a bunch of professional ball players lying down. DM has to realize pitching has to come before good offense to win games.

Felix Martinez was the only good pitcher this team faced since Monday and the offense completely laid down against some shitty pitchers. We know Sanchez and Verdugo both quit during their games.

[Dr. Johnny Fever]

Man.. they are not inferior to the ****ing Mariners and Twins... yet they are going to get the daylights kicked out of them by both of those sucky ****ing teams. There was A LOT of laying down against the Mariners and today looks like a lay down type of day.

You are what your record says you are and we aren't any better than anyone. We may have some young, talented position players but until we have a pitching staff and win games we are what our record says.

[Nightfyre]

Look at those Royals just giving up. Fuck you Bundy. STFU

[Captain Obvious]

Felix Martinez was the only good pitcher this team faced since Monday and the offense completely laid down against some shitty pitchers. We know Sanchez and Verdugo both quit during their games.

Is Felix Pedro's brother?

[lewdog]

Felix Martinez was the only good pitcher this team faced since Monday and the offense completely laid down against some shitty pitchers. We know Sanchez and Verdugo both quit during their games.

How about severely inferior starting pitching along with offensive production that has not met expectations and still needs to be developed?

Much more likely that a whole MLB team quitting every game.

[lewdog]

Felix Martinez

ROFL
:clap:

Oh shit, that one got me!

[alnorth]

Top 5th

Revere grounds out to first unassisted
Mauer grounds out to second
Willingham strikes out (looking)

0 runs, 0 hits

Bottom 5th

Hosmer flies out to right
Getz hits an infield single to third
Gordon strikes out (looking)
Getz steals second
Escobar grounds out to first 3-1

0 runs, 1 hit

[Al Bundy]

Martinez.. Hernandez... no chance of not sounding racist. Ohh and great to see the Royals just don't have the home run thing down, yet again.

[Ceej]

Martinez.. Hernandez... no chance of not sounding racist. Ohh and great to see the Royals just don't have the home run thing down, yet again.

It was Jeff Francouer.

LMAO

What did you expect?

An act of God?

[lewdog]

I say there is about a 15% chance we make a comeback to win this!!!!

[Al Bundy]

I guess we should expect that every pitcher that blows should shut this Royals offense down.

[Ceej]

So, against young, terrible guys we suck a bag of dicks.

Chiefs career day defense = Royals career day offense.

Sad.

[alnorth]

Top 6th

Tim Collins relieves Guthrie

Doumit homers to left
Dozier flies out to center
Casilla strikes out (swinging)
Butera strikes out (looking)

1 run, 1 hit

Bottom 6th

Moustakas walks
Butler flies out to right
Cain flies out to center
Perez grounds out to second

0 runs, 0 hits

[Al Bundy]

Damn.. I wish our guys believed in the home run. It really is depressing to watch the opponents crush balls out of our ball park, while our guys are such pussies they can't/won't hit home runs.

[Ceej]

Damn.. I wish our guys believed in the home run. It really is depressing to watch the opponents crush balls out of our ball park, while our guys are such pussies they can't/won't hit home runs.

This is a pretty stupid post.

Even for you, man.

[Al Bundy]

This is a pretty stupid post.

Even for you, man.

Ok.. so our guys just can't hit home runs. Time to bring guys in who can hit the home run.... not 11 singles in a game type of Hosmer guys, but guys who mash the ball.

[DeezNutz]

5 innings, 5 ERs, and 3 BBs.

Plus we're paying an extra million. Savvy, Dayton, savvy. Who could have guessed that this guy was trash, too?

But I wonder whom we could have brought up to fill a 4-5 inning void without paying more money? Who, who, who?

Just a stupid move the minute it was made. If we weren't paying more money, fine, but we are.

[Ceej]

Ok.. so our guys just can't hit home runs. Time to bring guys in who can hit the home run.... not 11 singles in a game type of Hosmer guys, but guys who mash the ball.

When was the last time when a Royals line up had 5 legitimate HR hitting threats?

(Gordon, Butler, Moustakas, Hosmer, Perez)

Saying they don't want to hit homeruns was pretty stupid.

[Nightfyre]

Cain is a HR threat as well. Myers will be as well.

[Al Bundy]

When was the last time when a Royals line up had 5 legitimate HR hitting threats?

(Gordon, Butler, Moustakas, Hosmer, Perez)

Saying they don't want to hit homeruns was pretty stupid.

Take Gordon and Hosmer off that list. It was more of an organizational statement, this Royals organization doesn't believe in the home run, they never have.

[Reaper16]

I can't prove it, but I think Al Bundy is Rhonda Byrne in real life.

[Al Bundy]

Cain is a HR threat as well. Myers will be as well.

As long as Seitzer is fired before he destroys Myers and Cain.

[Ceej]

Take Gordon and Hosmer off that list. It was more of an organizational statement, this Royals organization doesn't believe in the home run, they never have.

I agree with that last statement; sure.

But what's wrong with HR by committee rather than one guy with serious pop?

I would be fine with taking Hosmer off that list. But, Gordon belongs. Even after the way this year has went.

[Al Bundy]

I agree with that last statement; sure.

But what's wrong with HR by committee rather than one guy with serious pop?

I would be fine with taking Hosmer off that list. But, Gordon belongs. Even after the way this year has went.

Nahhh 5 home runs means you are hitting home runs like Angel Berroa. Gordon does everything a lead off hitter should though.

[DeezNutz]

As long as Seitzer is fired before he destroys Myers and Cain.

Seitzer's approach is sound: up the middle/opposite field.

He has little to nothing to do with any of the struggles this year. So what does? A terrible fucking pitching staff. This weakness creates a pendulum effect that causes hitters to press, overextend themselves, and creates slumps.

Fix the pitching and watch a lot of the offensive problems correct themselves.

[alnorth]

We're probably into the bullpens now, so using a lower expected runs/inning which makes the odds of a comeback less.

[alnorth]

Top 7th

Carroll singles to center
Span doubles to right, Carroll scores, Span thrown out at third 9-4-6-5
Revere singles to center
Mauer grounds into a 6-4-3 double play, Revere out at second

1 run, 3 hits

Bottom 7th

Francoeur grounds out to third
Hosmer singles to center
Getz singles to right, Hosmer to second

Tyler Robertson relieves Deduno

Gordon fouls out to left
Escobar grounds into a 6-4 fielder's choice, Getz out at second

0 runs, 2 hits

[Al Bundy]

Seitzer's approach is sound: up the middle/opposite field.

He has little to nothing to do with any of the struggles this year. So what does? A terrible ****ing pitching staff. This weakness creates a pendulum effect that causes hitters to press, overextend themselves, and creates slumps.

Fix the pitching and watch a lot of the offensive problems correct themselves.

Seitzer plays the "Singles will win games" garbage. He is definitely a problem.

[Ceej]

Nahhh 5 home runs means you are hitting home runs like Angel Berroa. Gordon does everything a lead off hitter should though.

And please remind me how many he had last year?

[Nightfyre]

If you're going to bag on the Royals, you should probably stick to bagging on their pitcher development and acquisition. The lineup will be stacked next year when they bring up Myers. Hosmer, Moose, Perez and Cain will only develop more power as they play in the majors.

[Nightfyre]

Seitzer's approach is sound: up the middle/opposite field.

He has little to nothing to do with any of the struggles this year. So what does? A terrible ****ing pitching staff. This weakness creates a pendulum effect that causes hitters to press, overextend themselves, and creates slumps.

Fix the pitching and watch a lot of the offensive problems correct themselves.

This. The young guys are clearly pressing. They are not being patient as a result.

[Ceej]

If you're going to bag on the Royals, you should probably stick to bagging on their pitcher development and acquisition. The lineup will be stacked next year when they bring up Myers. Hosmer, Moose, Perez and Cain will only develop more power as they play in the majors.

WE. NEED. MOAR. POWAR!!!!

[stonedstooge]

Collins getting smacked around

[DeezNutz]

Seitzer plays the "Singles will win games" garbage. He is definitely a problem.

No, he doesn't. His approach, which is well documented, is hard up the middle/opposite field.

This isn't exactly innovative; it's an approach advocated by most major college programs that I know of. Simply sound fundamental baseball.

Now, you get an enormous motherfucker like Dunn? Yeah, his approach should be load the fuck up. We don't have Dunn, though.

[Al Bundy]

This. The young guys are clearly pressing. They are not being patient as a result.

They certainly are pressing... but they are being taught by Seitzer that hitting home runs by pulling the ball is a terrible thing and that everything must be up the middle or to the opposite field, which is taking away A LOT of the power some of these guys have. We know the pitching is terrible, the hitting is just as bad.

[stonedstooge]

JESUS HUD SHUT THE FUCK UP

[Al Bundy]

I am done arguing... Seitzer would turn the Yankees into a singles hitting team if he could. He would be great if this were the 1980's.

[Nightfyre]

They certainly are pressing... but they are being taught by Seitzer that hitting home runs by pulling the ball is a terrible thing and that everything must be up the middle or to the opposite field, which is taking away A LOT of the power some of these guys have. We know the pitching is terrible, the hitting is just as bad.
Seitzer is teaching them to hit at the major league level with the middle/away approach because that is how you hit like 98% of major league pitches. After a while, once they have mastered that approach, they can start to recognize pull pitches. Right now, over half the lineup is still learning to hit in the majors.

[DeezNutz]

They certainly are pressing... but they are being taught by Seitzer that hitting home runs by pulling the ball is a terrible thing and that everything must be up the middle or to the opposite field, which is taking away A LOT of the power some of these guys have. We know the pitching is terrible, the hitting is just as bad.

That's not at all what he's teaching.

HRs are almost always an accident. If your approach is up the middle, it allows you to stay back and to trust your hands with a pitch on the inner half. Result? HRs.

Moose? Butler? I don't think either of these players has had a problem turning on pitches this year. We've even seen this from Cain in an extremely small sample size.

Not worried about Gordon, since he's had a very successful year to date. Hosmer has been a complete fucking mess, but I believe that's more mental (think '07 Gordon arrogance/stubbornness) than anything.

If managers are the least important coaches in professional sports, hitting and pitching coaches are even less important. But not in KC, where they are repeatedly (and unnecessarily) scapegoated.

[DeezNutz]

Yost to do a Vermeil impression in the post-game: "If you take away that one inning..."

[alnorth]

we're now at 100:1, I've never seen a comeback at this point

[Al Bundy]

Well then Deez, since you are a Seitzer fan boy what do you suggest we do to make this Royals offense even below average?

[Nightfyre]

You are such a retard. The Royals are fourth for team average, and 15th for OPS, the definition of average.

[Reaper16]

we're now at 100:1, I've never seen a comeback at this point

Braves vs Nationals two nights ago. It can happen!

[Al Bundy]

You are such a retard. The Royals are fourth for team average, and 15th for OPS, the definition of average.

They have to be at the bottom in runs scored.

[DeezNutz]

Well then Deez, since you are a Seitzer fan boy what do you suggest we do to make this Royals offense even below average?

Hardly. I'm just tired of seeing this organization do everything but address the real problems.

Pitching staff sucks? Fire the pitching coach!!! Yeah, the absolute dearth of talent isn't the real cause.

Offensively, I think there's talent, and we've seen progress from a lot key players: Escobar, Gordon, Butler, Moose, and Perez.

We're blaming Seitzer for Frenchy? Yuni? Hosmer? I know for a fact that two of these three suck shit. The last is still a bit of a mystery.

[Nightfyre]

Yost should absolutely get tossed here. Getz was safe by a mile.

[Al Bundy]

2nd base ump wants to get to the showers.

[lewdog]

Get tossed Yost, you don't do shit anyway.

[tk13]

I don't understand why Seitzer gets flack. Gordon has become a hitter under him... Moose and Butler are doing well. Escobar looks like a legitimate hitter too. Hosmer is really the only guy that's regressed at all... and someone was going to do it. There's no team anywhere that has every single thing play out perfectly. Meanwhile we trot out a garbage rotation.
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[lewdog]

Fuck mlbtv cut away!

[alnorth]

Top 8th

Louis Coleman relieves Collins

Willingham flies out to left
Doumit strikes out (swinging)
Dozier flies out to left

0 runs, 0 hits

Bottom 8th

Moustakas doubles to center

Anthony Swarzak relieves Robertson

Butler homers to left, Moustakas scores
Cain grounds out to second
Perez strikes out (swinging)
Francoeur grounds out to third

2 runs, 2 hits

[DeezNutz]

Wow. Not even close.

[Al Bundy]

He was safe by 3 steps

[Al Bundy]

I guess we must just face it, this team will have to have 13 singles to score some runs from here on out.. would be nice to have 5 run innings on a weekly basis, not a monthly basis.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Royals baseball is going to get Bundy fitted for a straight jacket

[Dr. Johnny Fever]

Hardly. I'm just tired of seeing this organization do everything but address the real problems.

Pitching staff sucks? Fire the pitching coach!!! Yeah, the absolute dearth of talent isn't the real cause.

Offensively, I think there's talent, and we've seen progress from a lot key players: Escobar, Gordon, Butler, Moose, and Perez.

We're blaming Seitzer for Frenchy? Yuni? Hosmer? I know for a fact that two of these three suck shit. The last is still a bit of a mystery.

Yep this. You want to call it OUR TIME then sign 3-4 new free agent starters this off season and I'm not talking bottom teir. You want to be taken seriously then play seriously. I'm holding my breath now.

[Dr. Johnny Fever]

Royals baseball is going to get all of us fitted for a straight jacket

FYP. Fuck off Cardinals fan. Don't you have a ring fitting?

[lewdog]

I'm holding my breath now.

Death will come quick, my son.

[Dr. Johnny Fever]

Death will come quick, my son.

I lived large when those dirty birds choked in 85. I'll always have that.

[gblowfish]

Ned isn't going to argue that call. It's 100 degrees, we're a last place team, and they have a plane to catch to California. Who gives a rat's ass?

Lose 2 of 3 to the Greasy White Sox, lose 3 of 4 to the Miserable M's, lose 2 of 3 to the Twinks. My, that's not so good, is it?

Our Time!

[DeezNutz]

Moose is pissed b/c he wanted a single.

[gblowfish]

I'd pay to watch a bunch of 14 year olds beat the crap outta the Sonic Guys. Notice how the Royals play the same commercials over and over and over? That's because they can't attract real advertisers. They just suck too much.

[Nightfyre]

Country breakfast is cursing himself for hitting that HR.

[gblowfish]

And all 100 people in left field go crazy!

[ChiefsCountry]

Billay!

[Ceej]

Billy with another homerun to left field.

Damn you Kevin Seitzer!!!

He needs to hit homeruns to center!!!

[lewdog]

I lived large when those dirty birds choked in 85. I'll always have that.

I have a 1993 Chiefs playoff win, so I have that.

:crybaby::sulk:

[DeezNutz]

Royals baseball: We've seen stranger things happen.

[alnorth]

hah, those 2 runs only improve our odds by a couple percent

[gblowfish]

You know, Hud really does have brain damage. He had brain surgery in 2001.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Belly would have hit it out of the stadium if he didn't give up.

[stonedstooge]

hah, those 2 runs only improve our odds by a couple percent

Ned manages with his brains, not the percentages

[Dr. Johnny Fever]

This year is OUR TIME to host the ASG. Next year is OUR TIME to actually play the core for a whole year and get some mother-fucking pitching maybe? 2014 is OUR TIME to compete for a wild card. 2015 is OUR TIME to fire DM for being the biggest idiot in MLB.

[alnorth]

Top 9th

Casilla flies out to right
Butera strikes out (looking)
Carroll walks
Span strikes out (swinging)

0 runs, 0 hits

Bottom 9th

Alcides Escobar ejected from the game by 2B umpire D.J. Reyburn

Royals Manager Ned Yost ejected from the game by 2B umpire D.J. Reyburn

Glen Perkins relieves Swarzak

Hosmer doubles to center
Getz grounds out to second, Hosmer to third
Gordon sacrifices (fly) to left, Hosmer scores

Yuniesky Betancourt bats for Escobar

Betancourt homers to left
Moustakas strikes out (swinging)

2 runs, 2 hits

Twins win, 7-5

[gblowfish]

The announcers are already talking about how bad they want to get out of KC....

[lewdog]

This year is OUR TIME to host the ASG. Next year is OUR TIME to actually play the core for a whole year and get some mother-****ing pitching maybe? 2014 is OUR TIME to compete for a wild card. 2015 is OUR TIME to fire DM for being the biggest idiot in MLB.

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You are back on the logical side. YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Nightfyre]

2012 - OUR TIME!
2013 - Our time?
2014 - ...

[gblowfish]

We continue our endless pursuit of awfulness. After this upcoming road trip, we should have the worst record in the American League for sure. We should send Broxton, Gordon and Hosmer to Houston to help them win a few games this year. They're the only team that stands in our way to the absolute bottom as "worst team in baseball."

[lewdog]

I am really curious to see who we sell off the second half of the season, definitely some that have to go. (Brox and Frenchy).

What prospects or current players do you think are expendable this offseason?

[Dr. Johnny Fever]

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You are back on the logical side. YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I've given up lew. This team has a shit manager, a shit GM and a shit pitching staff...and a talented line up that is still young. Get some real pitching... spend some money... maybe things can eventually turn around in about 2-3 more years. I've been a fan since 1969 and I'm tired of it since 1985.

[gblowfish]

They should try to move Broxton, Frenchy, Getz, Yucky, Mazzaro, and maybe Crow. All for starting pitching candidates.

[DeezNutz]

I am really curious to see who we sell off the second half of the season, definitely some that have to go. (Brox and Frenchy).

What prospects or current players do you think are expendable this offseason?

OAK spending $6M less in overall payroll and six games over .500 in a much tougher division.

Until we get a competent GM, it's all an exercise in futility.

[petegz28]

WTF just happened with Escobar?

[Dr. Johnny Fever]

I am really curious to see who we sell off the second half of the season, definitely some that have to go. (Brox and Frenchy).

What prospects or current players do you think are expendable this offseason?

Sal, Moose and Esky need to stay. The rest have shown nothing.

[gblowfish]

Ned to ump: "I gotta catch a plane to California and left my swimsuit at home. Run me so I can go get it....."

[stonedstooge]

I've given up lew. This team has a shit manager, a shit GM and a shit pitching staff...and a talented line up that is still young. Get some real pitching... spend some money... maybe things can eventually turn around in about 2-3 more years. I've been a fan since 1969 and I'm tired of it since 1985.

But the Royals have a great profit margin/Glass

[Ceej]

They should try to move Broxton, Frenchy, Getz, Yucky, Mazzaro, and maybe Crow. All for starting pitching candidates.

Again, all of this reminds me of shitty fucking filler low lives I would try to swap for a winner in fantasy football.

All of those guys wouldn't get us a quality SP in return.

[Al Bundy]

The Umps are going to give the Twins every call just so they can get to the showers.

[DeezNutz]

Fuzzy doesn't even realize that the umpire called the swing, not the pitch.

I know we started wanting to hate Hud, but Fuzzycock is worse. By a lot.

[Ceej]

Sal, Moose and Esky need to stay. The rest have shown nothing.

Cain, Gordon, really?

[DeezNutz]

Again, all of this reminds me of shitty ****ing filler low lives I would try to swap for a winner in fantasy football.

All of those guys wouldn't get us a quality SP in return.

Exactly right. Those guys get nothing of substance in return save maybe a low-level prospect or two.

[alnorth]

WTF just happened with Escobar?

He was barking at the 2B umpire about a call in a prior inning.

That is an automatic ejection.

[gblowfish]

Again, all of this reminds me of shitty fucking filler low lives I would try to swap for a winner in fantasy football.

All of those guys wouldn't get us a quality SP in return.

Well, if all six of those guys wouldn't generate a decent trade, what does that tell you about our talent level as a team?

[DeezNutz]

Cain, Gordon, really?

Cain has shown precious little due to sample size.

[DeezNutz]

Well, if all six of those guys wouldn't generate a decent trade, what does that tell you about our talent level as a team?

There's a talented core, and then a collection of shit. But that's not entirely different from any ML team in a lot of ways.

[SPchief]

Yunibomber

[gblowfish]

And Yuni pads his stats....

[Al Bundy]

These umps are PISSED

[Ceej]

Cain has shown precious little due to sample size.

I agree.

But, his small sample size has been leaps and infinitely, monumentally larger bounds then any other POS we've thrown out in CF this year.

[stonedstooge]

Welp they didn't sweep us

[gblowfish]

Well, that was a fun homestand....

[Al Bundy]

The Royals give yet another guy his first major league win lol.

[Dr. Johnny Fever]

Cain, Gordon, really?

Cain's had one good month.... Gordon has one superior year. Great, keep them. Make them building blocks. If they don't spend some real money for starting pitching who cares? Maybe we can finish 3rd next year.

[Al Bundy]

That 2nd base ump needs to be fired...

[DeezNutz]

The Royals can keep their core and sign two high-quality FA pitchers. Glass, as best as I can tell, isn't prohibited from spending money, though I realize we're accustomed to ensuring that he gets a substantial profit.

[Ceej]

Cain's had one good month.... Gordon has one superior year. Great, keep them. Make them building blocks. If they don't spend some real money for starting pitching who cares? Maybe we can finish 3rd next year.

I understand Cain is a small sample size.

But, he has shown incredible potential to be our everyday CFer. Anything at this moment in time is better than Dyson.

[stonedstooge]

40-54. JFC

[gblowfish]

This time last year we were 41-58. So, basically its "same as it ever was."

[BigMeatballDave]

I'd love to see Billy beat Balboni's record.

[Dr. Johnny Fever]

I understand Cain is a small sample size.

But, he has shown incredible potential to be our everyday CFer. Anything at this moment in time is better than Dyson.

I'm just down on this team right now. We/I expected more than this, this season. There's no excuse to lose home series' to the Mariners and Twins. I'm ready to fire everyone. Thankfully I'm not in charge. I'm just tired of believeing just to be kicked in the balls.

[gblowfish]

The Royals can keep their core and sign two high-quality FA pitchers. Glass, as best as I can tell, isn't prohibited from spending money, though I realize we're accustomed to ensuring that he gets a substantial profit.

This is not about winning. This is about making money. As long as the Royals make money, Glass wins. He literally could give a shit whether we win or not. Kansas City has put up with this for more than 20 years. There's a whole generation of Royals fans that don't realize how bad this team really is. They've been awful for 20 full years. They don't know any better. And since they don't know any better, they accept it. So, since the fans don't demand a winner, the Glass family can pocket the profit that should be going towards buying better players. This is just business, don't take it personally. That's what David Glass would tell you off the record.

[BigMeatballDave]

This time last year we were 41-58. So, basically its "same as it ever was."

Yep.

It's my fault.

I jinxed them with my positive vibe last month.

[gblowfish]

I'm just down on this team right now. We/I expected more than this, this season. There's no excuse to lose home series' to the Mariners and Twins. I'm ready to fire everyone. Thankfully I'm not in charge. I'm just tired of believeing just to be kicked in the balls.

Gee Doc, you're starting to sound like me!
Blog these fuckers for nine straight years, then tell me how you feel!
http://www.georgeblowfish.com/Royals2010-1.html

[Ceej]

I'm just down on this team right now. We/I expected more than this, this season. There's no excuse to lose home series' to the Mariners and Twins. I'm ready to fire everyone. Thankfully I'm not in charge. I'm just tired of believeing just to be kicked in the balls.

I feel you.


And I know it is going to be same shit, different year.

But, we've got some nice, young decent COGs. That's what I'm excited about.

Now..about this pitching rotation.

[gblowfish]

Ned says "Guthrie threw the ball OK, he made good pitches and they (Twins) hit good pitches."

JFC....

[Dr. Johnny Fever]

I feel you.


And I know it is going to be same shit, different year.

But, we've got some nice, young decent COGs. That's what I'm excited about.

Now..about this pitching rotation.

I agree, we do have some nice parts. I actually bought into "Our Time" though this year. Now I'm just an idiot again. It gets old.

[Ceej]

I agree, we do have some nice parts. I actually bought into "Our Time" though this year. Now I'm just an idiot again. It gets old.

Trust me.

You're not the only one.

Live and learn.

Gotta temper our expectations next year.

[gblowfish]

I agree, we do have some nice parts. I actually bought into "Our Time" though this year. Now I'm just an idiot again. It gets old.

C'mon Charlie Brown, you run up, and kick the football, and I'll hold it for you...

[Dr. Johnny Fever]

Ned says "Guthrie threw the ball OK, he made good pitches and they (Twins) hit good pitches."

JFC....

Go away Ned, like yesterday. Imagine the Royals with a manager who demanded perfection....

[Dr. Johnny Fever]

C'mon Charlie Brown, you run up, and kick the football, and I'll hold it for you...

Suck me. Kick it your damn self.

:)

[gblowfish]

Ned overview:

"Their pitcher was really good today."
"It's hot, we're not."
"We need to, like, you know.....win or something."
"Maybe we'll be better on the road."

They were 3-8 on their last roadie.
3-7 on this homestand.
See a pattern???

[Sure-Oz]

Worst team in baseball, period

[DeezNutz]

This is not about winning. This is about making money. As long as the Royals make money, Glass wins. He literally could give a shit whether we win or not. Kansas City has put up with this for more than 20 years. There's a whole generation of Royals fans that don't realize how bad this team really is. They've been awful for 20 full years. They don't know any better. And since they don't know any better, they accept it. So, since the fans don't demand a winner, the Glass family can pocket the profit that should be going towards buying better players. This is just business, don't take it personally. That's what David Glass would tell you off the record.

I'd like to argue with this, but I cannot.

[Sure-Oz]

Royals fans just need to stop going, period. But no we are all stupid and still go to clown days at the K.


KC deserves so much better. Highlight of the year is watching a stupid yankee get shutout in HR derby

Omaha is awesome though!

[gblowfish]

Fox Sports re-plays Royals games. Wonder why they do that? Who'd want to watch that POS again???

I need to cheer up, KCPT is showing "Diary of Anne Frank." That should be good for a few belly laughs this afternoon....

[Bowser]

Fox Sports re-plays Royals games. Wonder why they do that? Who'd want to watch that POS again???

I need to cheer up, KCPT is showing "Diary of Anne Frank." That should be good for a few belly laughs this afternoon....

Even Anne Frank thinks the Royals have given up.

[Dr. Johnny Fever]

Fox Sports re-plays Royals games. Wonder why they do that? Who'd want to watch that POS again???

I need to cheer up, KCPT is showing "Diary of Anne Frank." That should be good for a few belly laughs this afternoon....

I'm putting in the first Saw. If I wanted to suffer I'd watch the Royals.

[Dr. Johnny Fever]

This is not about winning. This is about making money. As long as the Royals make money, Glass wins. He literally could give a shit whether we win or not. Kansas City has put up with this for more than 20 years. There's a whole generation of Royals fans that don't realize how bad this team really is. They've been awful for 20 full years. They don't know any better. And since they don't know any better, they accept it. So, since the fans don't demand a winner, the Glass family can pocket the profit that should be going towards buying better players. This is just business, don't take it personally. That's what David Glass would tell you off the record.

I take it personally. This is my favorite team. If I owned this team this would hurt so bad I'd do anything to make the playoffs this year. I don't own it though and I'm so sick it even I'm about ready to call it quits. I've never been so disenfranchised in my life.

[KCUnited]

I'm re-watching the 2011 Chiefs/Dolphins game as a pick me up.

[cabletech94]

Royals fans just need to stop going, period. But no we are all stupid and still go to clown days at the K.


KC deserves so much better. Highlight of the year is watching a stupid yankee get shutout in HR derby

Omaha is awesome though!

loudest i've ever heard the stadium (in person). it was really something special.
BILLY BUTLER!!!! BILLY BUTLER!!!! BILLY BUTLER!!!!

[Deberg_1990]

Go away Glass, like yesterday. Imagine the Royals with an Owner who demanded perfection....

FYP

[Nzoner]

Cheer up fellas,Chiefs football is just around the corner :D

[Reerun_KC]

Cheer up fellas,Chiefs football is just around the corner :D

Man way to kick everyone in the balls...

[Deberg_1990]

Cheer up fellas,Chiefs football is just around the corner :D

heh, im not sure whats worse....going into a year with no hope every year(Royals), or waiting until Dec/Jan to kick your fanbase in the nuts every year (Chiefs) ?

[Reerun_KC]

heh, im not sure whats worse....going into a year with no hope every year(Royals), or waiting until Dec/Jan to kick your fanbase in the nuts every year (Chiefs) ?

I take it you havent been a Chiefs fan very long....

[Nzoner]

heh, im not sure whats worse....going into a year with no hope every year(Royals), or waiting until Dec/Jan to kick your fanbase in the nuts every year (Chiefs) ?

Although I get riled up from time to time for the most part as a fan of both I've just settled into a do unto others approach.The owners don't show me they care about winning,so I show them no money(unless they get a directv cut)No games,no new gear,nadda.

[HemiEd]

IMO, this Manager, Ned Yost is the worst one they have had to date.

He has cost the team several wins, in the few games that were televised up here, so there must be a lot more.

I hate it that this young crew is getting used to losing.

[gblowfish]

IMO, this Manager, Ned Yost is the worst one they have had to date.

He has cost the team several wins, in the few games that were televised up here, so there must be a lot more.

I hate it that this young crew is getting used to losing.

That's funny because Kevin Kietzman has said just the opposite. On several occasions, he's said the Royals would have many more losses without Ned's steady hand on the tiller.

Take that for what it's worth.

[Deberg_1990]

Bob Boone
Tony Muser
John Mizerock
Tony Peña
Bob Schaefer
Buddy Bell
Trey Hillman
Ned Yost



All of the above are the same guy. Im certain of it.

[DeezNutz]

Yost is much, much better than Hillman. Not even close.