Zero Dark Thirty (Navy SEAL Team 6)

[Fire Me Boy!]

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1790885/

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[OnTheWarpath15]

Oh yeah, the movie that politicians went all ape-shit over before a frame of film was ever shot.

Woman that directed The Hurt Locker, right?

Should be good.

[CoMoChief]

People really believe this Bin Laden killing fabel?

These Seal Team 6 members were then blown up in a helicopter to prevent from them telling the real story behind that mission.

[mikeyis4dcats.]

People really believe this Bin Laden killing fabel?

These Seal Team 6 members were then blown up in a helicopter to prevent from them telling the real story behind that mission.

you're a fucking idiot. the troops killed in the crash had nothing to do with the Bin Laden op.

[TLO]

JFC...

[TLO]

People really believe this Bin Laden killing fabel?

These Seal Team 6 members were then blown up in a helicopter to prevent from them telling the real story behind that mission.

Alex Jones is a mentally ill paranoid conspiracy theorist.

[CoMoChief]

you're a ****ing idiot. the troops killed in the crash had nothing to do with the Bin Laden op.

Of course they did

[patteeu]

People really believe this Bin Laden killing fabel?

These Seal Team 6 members were then blown up in a helicopter to prevent from them telling the real story behind that mission.

:facepalm:

[Deberg_1990]

Oh yeah, the movie that politicians went all ape-shit over before a frame of film was ever shot.

Woman that directed The Hurt Locker, right?

Should be good.

Yea, Kathren Bigelow. She's a stud.
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[Amnorix]

People really believe this Bin Laden killing fabel?

These Seal Team 6 members were then blown up in a helicopter to prevent from them telling the real story behind that mission.


That was an entirely different squad of Seal Team 6 members.


What part is fable anyway? If ST6 didn't kill bin Laden, then why would you need to kill anyone? If nothing happened, then you don't need to kill people to cover up....nothing.

And if we didn't kill bin Laden (the legendary "he'd been dead for years") argument, then why did Al Quada agree that we killed him. Wouldn't they far prefer him to have been called home by Muhammad (or whatever), rather than admit that we got him?

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2011/05/201156203329911287.html


And if we didn't kill bin Laden, then why would Pakistan agree that he'd been hiding in their country for years, which was an embarassing problem for them, which resulted in (let's face it) us invading them and taking bin Laden out from under their noses.

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-News/2011/05/02/Pakistan-confirms-bin-Ladens-death/UPI-42361304332458/


And why would Pakistan put up with international criticism for "allowing" bin Laden to hide out there for so long, even from its hated enemy India, if they didn't think bin Laden was really there?

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/05/02/us-binladen-india-pakistan-idUSTRE7412MQ20110502


Let's face it, the story that makes the most sense is that bin Laden was in Pakistan, and our ST6 strike got him.

[patteeu]

That was an entirely different squad of Seal Team 6 members.


What part is fable anyway? If ST6 didn't kill bin Laden, then why would you need to kill anyone? If nothing happened, then you don't need to kill people to cover up....nothing.

And if we didn't kill bin Laden (the legendary "he'd been dead for years") argument, then why did Al Quada agree that we killed him. Wouldn't they far prefer him to have been called home by Muhammad (or whatever), rather than admit that we got him?

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2011/05/201156203329911287.html

And if we didn't kill bin Laden, then why would Pakistan agree that he'd been hiding in their country for years, which was an embarassing problem for them, which resulted in (let's face it) us invading them and taking bin Laden out from under their noses.

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-News/2011/05/02/Pakistan-confirms-bin-Ladens-death/UPI-42361304332458/


And why would Pakistan put up with international criticism for "allowing" bin Laden to hide out there for so long, even from its hated enemy India, if they didn't think bin Laden was really there?

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/05/02/us-binladen-india-pakistan-idUSTRE7412MQ20110502


Let's face it, the story that makes the most sense is that bin Laden was in Pakistan, and our ST6 strike got him.

All lies! :)

[CoMoChief]

WTF do you think they're making a movie about this then?

This is all to condition you to the idea that there was a secret team full of badasses that went in on Obama's orders to execute Bin Laden. When we all know that's not the case.

Bin Laden is a CIA-made up boogy man. The US govt has teamed up w/ Al-Qaeda in the past to defeat the soviets. They're currently being backed by the US/NATO in the whole Syria mess.

[Fish]

WTF do you think they're making a movie about this then?

This is all to condition you to the idea that there was a secret team full of badasses that went in on Obama's orders to execute Bin Laden. When we all know that's not the case.

Bin Laden is a CIA-made up boogy man. The US govt has teamed up w/ Al-Qaeda in the past to defeat the soviets. They're currently being backed by the US/NATO in the whole Syria mess.

:facepalm:

JFC dude.... you've fallen off the edge.....

[patteeu]

WTF do you think they're making a movie about this then?

It's the single success of the Obama administration. How can Hollywood's left wing cheerleaders let that fade from memory?

Bin Laden is a CIA-made up boogy man. The US govt has teamed up w/ Al-Qaeda in the past to defeat the soviets. They're currently being backed by the US/NATO in the whole Syria mess.

He's not made up. We didn't team up with AQ to defeat the soviets. And while we've been on the same side as AQ in conflicts like Syria and Kosovo (the wisdom of which is certainly debatable), that doesn't mean we "backed" them.

[patteeu]

I forgot this thread wasn't a DC thread, so while I don't really think what I posted was political (any more than critcizing a fringe group like the KKK would be political) I'll leave my criticisms of CoMoChief at that.

[CoMoChief]

It's the single success of the Obama administration. How can Hollywood's left wing cheerleaders let that fade from memory?



He's not made up. We didn't team up with AQ to defeat the soviets. And while we've been on the same side as AQ in conflicts like Syria and Kosovo (the wisdom of which is certainly debatable), that doesn't mean we "backed" them.

We're backing them now!!! NATO has literally flown them over there. This is the same group that lamestream media wants us to think is hiding under our beds at night waiting to blow us all up, allowing our govt to take away our rights with legislation like the Patriot Act, NDAA, Cybersecurity bills, un-manned servailence drones, TSA checkpoints and gropedowns. All because these govt backed terrorists might be planning another attack, which most of these attacks have been set up and ran by govt. Hell its now being reported that one of the shooters in this Wisconsin shooting is a former Army psychological operations specialist at Ft. Bragg.

Come the fuck on people.......JFC.

[Amnorix]

WTF do you think they're making a movie about this then?

This is all to condition you to the idea that there was a secret team full of badasses that went in on Obama's orders to execute Bin Laden. When we all know that's not the case.

Bin Laden is a CIA-made up boogy man. The US govt has teamed up w/ Al-Qaeda in the past to defeat the soviets. They're currently being backed by the US/NATO in the whole Syria mess.


Why? The military-industrial complex wants more funding?

And why are so many other countries around the world in cahoots with this whole conspiracy of ours?


(I know I'm going to regret asking all this. The real answer is that you're nuts, but hey, whatever).

[Amnorix]

We're backing them now!!! NATO has literally flown them over there. This is the same group that lamestream media wants us to think is hiding under our beds at night waiting to blow us all up, allowing our govt to take away our rights with legislation like the Patriot Act, NDAA, Cybersecurity bills, un-manned servailence drones, TSA checkpoints and gropedowns. All because these govt backed terrorists might be planning another attack, which most of these attacks have been set up and ran by govt. Hell its now being reported that one of the shooters in this Wisconsin shooting is a former Army psychological operations specialist at Ft. Bragg.

Come the fuck on people.......JFC.


Ok, never mind my questions.

slowly backs away from the crazy guy

[patteeu]

Ok, never mind my questions.

slowly backs away from the crazy guy

Come on, man. Wake up. It's all so clear if you're just willing to leave your rationality behind.

[mikeyis4dcats.]

Ok, never mind my questions.

slowly backs away from the crazy guy

rings! RINGS!!!!

[Buck]

New trailer...

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[KChiefer]

Anyone else see this yet? I was skeptical but watched it last night and thought it was great! ZDT did a great job of showing in under three hours the nonstop struggle our forces have endured over the past decade. There was a lot of effective humor for such a serious subject. While the film was dramatized, thankfully it never goes to the route of "action film."

I couldn't help but draw some parallels to Homeland with the opening being filled with a collage of emergency response radio from 9/11 to Chastain's portrayal of agent Maya, who's a bigger bulldog than Carrie Mathison minus the nuts. She gave a great performance of a character that was nothing like the southern belle in The Help aside from them both being dead sexy!

While I'm not surprised that the depiction of waterboarding is a hot topic about the film, after seeing it, I am surprised about the opinions people have generated of it. Many are saying it portrayed the EIT as working to obtain intel, but to me, the film was ambiguous as to it's effectiveness.

While I enjoyed everything that was in the film, I wish they had spent more time with the seal team. They should have had more scenes with them, including their breifing for the actual raid, and it wouldn't have taken the revealing of sensitive info. The film could have been 30 mins longer without dragging.

I loved the scene when they got the news the op was a go, with symbolism of the game of horseshoes and one of the team having the other's back by catching the football before it hit him. Maya looking at them and knowing all of her work now lays with the baddest chew-spitting, velcro-wearing men on the planet. The final scene was really heart-racing for something where we already know the outcome.

Two thumbs up!

Lastly, James Gandolfini can put on a toupée but will forever be TS with that accent.

[Mr. Plow]

Jesus, como is more crazy than i ever thought.

[Sully]

Anyone else see this yet? I was skeptical but watched it last night and thought it was great! ZDT did a great job of showing in under three hours the nonstop struggle our forces have endured over the past decade. There was a lot of effective humor for such a serious subject. While the film was dramatized, thankfully it never goes to the route of "action film."

I couldn't help but draw some parallels to Homeland with the opening being filled with a collage of emergency response radio from 9/11 to Chastain's portrayal of agent Maya, who's a bigger bulldog than Carrie Mathison minus the nuts. She gave a great performance of a character that was nothing like the southern belle in The Help aside from them both being dead sexy!

While I'm not surprised that the depiction of waterboarding is a hot topic about the film, after seeing it, I am surprised about the opinions people have generated of it. Many are saying it portrayed the EIT as working to obtain intel, but to me, the film was ambiguous as to it's effectiveness.

While I enjoyed everything that was in the film, I wish they had spent more time with the seal team. They should have had more scenes with them, including their breifing for the actual raid, and it wouldn't have taken the revealing of sensitive info. The film could have been 30 mins longer without dragging.

I loved the scene when they got the news the op was a go, with symbolism of the game of horseshoes and one of the team having the other's back by catching the football before it hit him. Maya looking at them and knowing all of her work now lays with the baddest chew-spitting, velcro-wearing men on the planet. The final scene was really heart-racing for something where we already know the outcome.

Two thumbs up!

Lastly, James Gandolfini can put on a toupée but will forever be TS with that accent.

I agree with all of this. Just got home from seeing it, and loved the movie. There were a couple of details that, IMO for time's sake, they flubbed, but it was a very strong movie, especially considering how soon after the fact it's coming out.

[KChiefer]

I agree with all of this. Just got home from seeing it, and loved the movie. There were a couple of details that, IMO for time's sake, they flubbed, but it was a very strong movie, especially considering how soon after the fact it's coming out.

Yeah, I hadn't thought about that. They researched, wrote, shot, and edited, all within ~17 months. That's impressive...maybe too impressive. :hmmm:

Granted, 80% of the movie was shot in office buildings, but the city scenes felt alive and bustling enough.

[jiveturkey]

I liked I quite a bit. Even with knowledge of the outcome the last 30 minutes were tense. I read a lot of CIA fiction and that mission beats a lot of the imagery shit I've come across.

[Bump]

:facepalm:

JFC dude.... you've fallen off the edge.....

he's really not that far off...

You can't just deny the relationship that the Bush family has with the Saudi's and how rich they got off of this war.

[Bump]

Jesus, como is more crazy than i ever thought.

anyone who questions the integrity of 'MURICA is a bat shit crazy asshole. Our government officials would never do anything that would hurt the people to make them rich...'MURICA.

[patteeu]

he's really not that far off...

You can't just deny the relationship that the Bush family has with the Saudi's and how rich they got off of this war.

How rich did they get?

[patteeu]

anyone who questions the integrity of 'MURICA is a bat shit crazy asshole. Our government officials would never do anything that would hurt the people to make them rich...'MURICA.

You're talking pre-Obama, right?

[Swanman]

While I enjoyed everything that was in the film, I wish they had spent more time with the seal team. They should have had more scenes with them, including their breifing for the actual raid, and it wouldn't have taken the revealing of sensitive info. The film could have been 30 mins longer without dragging.




If you want more seal team goodness, read No Easy Day if you haven't already. It covers the raid step by step, written by a member of the team that was right there when Osama bit it. It also covers some other operations that the author was a part of.

[DaneMcCloud]

I finally saw this film. It's a masterful piece of filmmaking that challenged me personally and morally.

Waterboarding? Fuck 'em.

Kill "innocent" women during the raid? Fuck them, too.

Kill UBL? FUCK YEAH.

But all throughout, I kept thinking about the trillions of dollars spent in Iraq and Afghanistan. Taking off my stinkin' flip flops (yes, flip flops) at the airport when I travel. The countless and needless deaths and amputees that have come home in the past twelve years.

I'm glad he's dead but I can't help but think think that America is Ahab (irony at its finest) and UBL the white whale.

[Mav]

I finally saw this film. It's a masterful piece of filmmaking that challenged me personally and morally.

Waterboarding? **** 'em.

Kill "innocent" women during the raid? **** them, too.

Kill UBL? **** YEAH.

But all throughout, I kept thinking about the trillions of dollars spent in Iraq and Afghanistan. Taking off my stinkin' flip flops (yes, flip flops) at the airport when I travel. The countless and needless deaths and amputees that have come home in the past twelve years.

I'm glad he's dead but I can't help but think think that America is Ahab (irony at its finest) and UBL the white whale.

Good analogy.

[patteeu]

Good analogy.

I think it's an analogy based on the misconception that bin Laden was the focus of the GWoT. The fact is that his relevance had waned considerably by the time our raid took him out. And even with his demise, the importance of an ongoing strategy for dealing with radical Islamists using a full spectrum of tools (including military power where appropriate) remains undiminished.