***OFFICIAL*** NFC Powerhouse Atlanta Falcons vs Bengals Game thread

[Hammock Parties]

This is a national broadcast, so tune in! We should get a good preview of our opponent for Week 1.

We also get a good look at another team with a young QB who can throw the ball past 15 yards.

By the way, last week the Falcons were awesome. Matt Ryan and Julio Jones looked like total studs. Pretty concerning for us Chiefs fans.

[petegz28]

dude the last game you said we were going to "see 2 real QB's" amounted in 4 complete passes and an INT between the two of them with 0 scores.

BTW, who has more playoff wins, Cassel or Ryan?

[Dylan]

Who's the powerhouse?

TIA

[Hammock Parties]

Who's the powerhouse?

TIA

I think we're looking at one powerhouse, and a rising powerhouse.

These teams will dominate their conferences for years to come.

[petegz28]

I think we're looking at one powerhouse, and a rising powerhouse.

These teams will dominate their conferences for years to come.

3 playoff trips with 0 wins isn't dominating

[mr. tegu]

3 playoff trips with 0 wins isn't dominating

Misleading thread title.

[Al Bundy]

This is a national broadcast, so tune in! We should get a good preview of our opponent for Week 1.

We also get a good look at another team with a young QB who can throw the ball past 15 yards.

By the way, last week the Falcons were awesome. Matt Ryan and Julio Jones looked like total studs. Pretty concerning for us Chiefs fans.

Fuck Matty Ryan and the Falcants. Talk about completely overrated.

[Al Bundy]

I think we're looking at one powerhouse, and a rising powerhouse.

These teams will dominate their conferences for years to come.

The Fowlcons have crested... there little mini run is over.

[Hammock Parties]

Bucs gonna be good this year, man?

[Hammock Parties]

Mike Cox sighting!

[bevischief]

I can't believe I am seeing this game on TV instead of the Greenbay game.

[Al Bundy]

Bucs gonna be good this year, man?

As you can tell I HATE the Falcons. As far as the Bucs... I will say they will be a lot better, but I expect around 7-9 or 6-10. Most of it depends on the defensive line for Tampa Bay.

[mr. tegu]

Their o line looks awful so far after three plays. Open competition is not a good thing there.

[petegz28]

Pretty weak holding call

[Dylan]

I think we're looking at one powerhouse, and a rising powerhouse.

These teams will dominate their conferences for years to come.

The Giants pounded them in the NFC wild card game in January - 24-2. The score was crazy.

I like the Bengals

[Al Bundy]

Gonzales push off pushed him back behind the first down marker.

[Hammock Parties]

Decent drive for the Falcons. Ryan looked good.

[petegz28]

Decent drive for the Falcons. Ryan looked good.

ROFL

[Dylan]

I can't believe I am seeing this game on TV instead of the Greenbay game.

http://www.thefirstrow.eu/watch/135639/1/watch-cleveland-browns-vs-green-bay-packers.html

[Hammock Parties]

Atlanta's defense throttling Cincy. Wow.

BS flag.

[petegz28]

I'm already seeing around the league that teams are abandoning the run like crazy. Not all of them but a lot. 3rd and 1 and you line up for a pass? Atlanta had 3rd and 3 and went empty backfield.

[petegz28]

Right on cue, Cinci busts a good run then fumbles

[Hammock Parties]

Yep. Playmaking Atlanta defense.

[Mr. Laz]

Matt 'Captain Checkdown' Ryan

White,Jones,Gonzo,Turner and he still checks it down on every play

[Hammock Parties]

Matt 'Captain Checkdown' Ryan

White,Jones,Gonzo,Turner and he still checks it down on every play

Broke a franchise record for passing yards last year.

[Dylan]

Matt 'Captain Checkdown' Ryan

White,Jones,Gonzo,Turner and he still checks it down on every play

:D

[petegz28]

Broke a franchise record for passing yards last year.

3 rushes for -2 yards..I can see why

[Titty Meat]

This game is boring

[Hammock Parties]

Poor possession for Atlanta. Not gonna lie.

[petegz28]

Atlanta signed Matt Cassel

[Titty Meat]

Broke a franchise record for passing yards last year.

Atlanta has had a lot of great QB's.

[Chiefs Pantalones]

Can't wait to get these guys in Arrowhead. I'll be there!!!

[Dylan]

uh oh, Weeden rattled on blitz

CLE 0 GB 7

[mr. tegu]

3 rushes for -2 yards..I can see why

Well in Atlanta's defense the announcers did say there is open competition on this o-line ROFL

[Dylan]

GB's first defense needs work

[Messier]

Poor possession for Atlanta. Not gonna lie.

Why would you need to? In fact why do you care about defending any of the teams the Chiefs will be playing?

[petegz28]

WTF was the facemask?

[O.city]

Bengals 2011 season was alot like the Chiefs 2010, IIRC.


At this point I don't see Dalton more than a game manager, but I think he has a chance to make the next step this year.


Terrible facemask call.

[O.city]

Falcons are a really good team. Good test to see where our Chiefs are right out of the gate.

[RunKC]

I'm more scared of the Bengals than the Falcons. The Bengals defense is for real and their run defense is stuffing Michael Turner's shit.

The Falcons run defense looks below average. Bengals backup RB fumbles....but after breaking a 15 yard run up the middle.

I think we'll beat the Falcons at home. Maybe not the Bengals though. Damn.

[Dylan]

Rogers looks good. They should pull him.

[O.city]

I'm more scared of the Bengals than the Falcons. The Bengals defense is for real and their run defense is stuffing Michael Turner's shit.

The Falcons run defense looks below average. Bengals backup RB fumbles....but after breaking a 15 yard run up the middle.

I think we'll beat the Falcons at home. Maybe not the Bengals though. Damn.

Turner is shit at this point.

[RunKC]

Also, the Bengals OL is average at best. That's their biggest weakness. If they build that up in the next year or two they will be scary.

[mr. tegu]

Rogers looks good. They should pull him.

I assume you are posting about the Packers because the thread title has "NFC Powerhouse" in it? Way to keep the OP from posting a misleading thread :)

[-King-]

Waited way too long to throw that. Green was open long before Dalton started scrambling.
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[Dylan]

CLE (Stevens) ripped the ball away from Cobb

CLE in scoring position

[O.city]

I think Witherspoon, the LB from ATL, has a great year, possibly becoming an all pro.

[-King-]

Atlanta has had a lot of great QB's.

LMAO
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[-King-]

I think Witherspoon, the LB from ATL, has a great year, possibly becoming an all pro.

MIZ
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[tecumseh]

Bad injury bug for the Bengals.

[O.city]

Bengals have been hit with some injuries already.

[Titty Meat]

OU had a bunch of guys who are always injured: Bradford, Murray, and Gresham. I'm sure theres a few others i'm forgetting.

[O.city]

MIZ
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Yep.


I actually wanted the Chiefs to grab him, but I don't think he would really fit the 34.

[RunKC]

The Falcons run defense doesn't look near as good. I guess that's what happens when you lose a good LB like Curtis Lofton

[petegz28]

Bengals have been hit with some injuries already.

Should have hired Haley for conditioning and field trips.

[Dylan]

I assume you are posting about the Packers because the thread title has "NFC Powerhouse" in it? Way to keep the OP from posting a misleading thread :)

hush. bevischief wanted to watch GB - just giving him an update.

are you new here?

[O.city]

NOt sure about Asante Samuel as a starting CB, he's gonna get targeted alot.



And Micheal Turner looks like he's running in sand. I think he's done.

[Titty Meat]

NOt sure about Asante Samuel as a starting CB, he's gonna get targeted alot.



And Micheal Turner looks like he's running in sand. I think he's done.

It's pre season man.

[petegz28]

JFc these Refs suck

[tecumseh]

How unusual is it to not have your O-line set going into pre-season? Seems deconcerting to me.

[-King-]

NOt sure about Asante Samuel as a starting CB, he's gonna get targeted alot.



And Micheal Turner looks like he's running in sand. I think he's done.

Samuel was a top 5 CB last year with some putting him at #1.
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[tecumseh]

Tony G.

[-King-]

Only 2 passes over 15 yards so far. Not impressed.
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[petegz28]

tony G. won't be running that open against RAC....or better not be anyway

[Hammock Parties]

Atlanta defense really kicking some ass in this game so far.

Matt Ryan is red hot, 11/13!

[Tribal Warfare]

Tony G.

It's just weird seeing him in a Falcon jersey.

[petegz28]

Ryan looked ok between the 20's and choked in the red zone

[petegz28]

Atlanta defense really kicking some ass in this game so far.

Matt Ryan is red hot, 11/13!

For 3 points

[O.city]

It's pre season man.

I know, but he was bad last year too.

[O.city]

Samuel was a top 5 CB last year with some putting him at #1.
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Is that why he was traded for a 7th round pick?

[tecumseh]

Nice throw ,dalton.

[Hammock Parties]

Cincy's offense is basically doing nothing in this game until now.

Pretty worried about Matt Cassel against this D.

[petegz28]

Neither team looks very good running the ball

[O.city]

Cincy's offense is basically doing nothing in this game until now.

Pretty worried about Matt Cassel against this D.

Cinci does have a plethora of playmakers and a great oline, so yea.

[tecumseh]

Drip droppin. those balls.

[-King-]

Is that why he was traded for a 7th round pick?

Eagles had no choice. They royally fucked up last year by trading for DRC.

Samuels is better than DRC and Asomugha.
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[RunKC]

Cinci does have a plethora of playmakers and a great oline, so yea.

lol wut

[tecumseh]

That pass was very Quinnian, Dalton

[petegz28]

I just hope we don't get this Ref crew game 1

[O.city]

Tamba and Houston will have a field day against the Bengals.

[-King-]

What in the fuck?!?! LMAO
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[O.city]

Eagles had no choice. They royally ****ed up last year by trading for DRC.

Samuels is better than DRC and Asomugha.
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Nah, he's not.

[O.city]

lol wut

Sarcasm.

[O.city]

Dalton not looking too good.

[petegz28]

BOOM goes the dynamite

[-King-]

Beautiful fucking pass.
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[tecumseh]

Single man sickness. Assante.

[Ceej]

Samuel jumps around like an idiot after breaking up a bad throw.

Then gets burnt for a long TD pass.

Love it.

LMAO

[Dylan]

Beautiful fucking pass.
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agreed - also great catch

asante - smh

he was done four years ago

[-King-]

Nah, he's not.

yeah...but he is http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stat-analysis/2012/best-cornerback-charting-stats-2011

And 2011 was his worst season.

[Hammock Parties]

Andy Dalton is really good.

Worried about our D against him.

[Dylan]

Clay Matthews had his hair highlighted. LMAO

[petegz28]

See I think that should be illegal. The team gets set, the QB sees the blitz coming then the entire line moves and turns their head and what not. That should be a false start.

[-King-]

See I think that should be illegal. The team gets set, the QB sees the blitz coming then the entire line moves and turns their head and what not. That should be a false start.
Yeah that one was a little too much.
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[Dylan]

Andy Dalton is really good.

Worried about our D against him.

Why? The Chiefs' defense is very good

[tecumseh]

Clay Matthews had his hair highlighted. LMAO

Same place Stanzi goes gets his hair did?LMAO

[-King-]

Why? The Chiefs' defense is very good

Ignore him.
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[petegz28]

Why? The Chiefs' defense is very good

He's trolling...keep the food in your pocket

[Tribal Warfare]

Same place Stanzi goes gets his hair did?LMAO

http://www.terezowens.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Brady-Hair.jpg


Tom Brady must've given drop to those boys

[Dylan]

By the way, also love your offensive line -

[-King-]

Mays is such a shitty safety
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[Hammock Parties]

Ryan slinging it now.

[Hammock Parties]

Yep, that's a QB. zip zip zip

down the field, jack

[Just Passin' By]

Mays is such a shitty safety
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He's a danger to players on both teams.

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

Pete Prisco ‏@PriscoCBS

I still think the Bengals need to get Taylor Mays off the field

[jd1020]

Siragusa thinks the NFL is the NCAA.

[O.city]

Both these teams will roll the Chiefs, Lions 2011 style.

[BigMeatballDave]

Why? The Chiefs' defense is very good

Don't feed it.

[petegz28]

Both these teams will roll the Chiefs, Lions 2011 style.

JFC, not you too?!?!?

[Hammock Parties]

18/21

174 yards

Yup, Matt Ryan is a piece of shit.

[BigMeatballDave]

Both these teams will roll the Chiefs, Lions 2011 style.

Are you channeling Clay?

Ye of little faith...

[tecumseh]

Well, Ryan seemed comfortable enough with his Oline.

[BigMeatballDave]

18/21

174 yards

Yup, Matt Ryan is a piece of shit.

No play off wins.

Right now, he's just another guy.

[petegz28]

Well, Ryan seemed comfortable enough with his Oline.

We'll see how they do when Tamba and Houston are bringing it and not the Cinci defense

[Dylan]

GB's defense still looks the same (2011)

[O.city]

The Bengals starting corners are Terrance Newman and a rookie, Kirkpatrick from Bama.


Bengals are strong up front, but the back end is shitty.

[petegz28]

Both teams should either do nothing but run the ball the rest of the game or quit running the rest of the game because they both suck at doing it

[Hammock Parties]

No play off wins.

Right now, he's just another guy.

Call me when Cassel is ever 18/21 for 174 yards.

Ryan is just another guy who breaks franchise passing records.

Cassel is just another shitty guy.

[O.city]

Neither team has a running back worth a shit, so yeah they won't run the ball.

[O.city]

Call me when Cassel is ever 18/21 for 174 yards.

Ryan is just another guy who breaks franchise passing records.

Cassel is just another shitty guy.


You sir are a piece of work.


Preseason stats don't matter, or so I thought?

[petegz28]

Call me when Cassel is ever 18/21 for 174 yards.

Ryan is just another guy who breaks franchise passing records.

Cassel is just another shitty guy.

Who gives a flying fuck about franchise records if you can't win a playoff game?

[petegz28]

You sir are a piece of work.


Preseason stats don't matter, or so I thought?

Excellent point...Ryan has thrown for 174 yards and the Falcons have 10 points

Cassel threw for 67 yards and had 14 points

:evil:

[O.city]

Did Julio Jones have a catch? IIRC he had one for like 2 yards.

[Mr_Tomahawk]

Chris Redman > Matt Cassel

[O.city]

Chris Redman > Matt Cassel

Nah.

[Mr_Tomahawk]

Nah.

Chris Redman = Matt Cassel

[O.city]

Chris Redman = Matt Cassel

Nah.....well..................IDK.

[the Talking Can]

i think ryan is going to have his best passing year (for fantasy)...new OC, they're running more 3 WR sets, and Jones is the real deal (though that trade was still nuts)

they really need a new RB though...turner is on his way to Jones-ville...

[Mr_Tomahawk]

Nah.....well..................IDK.

Matt Cassel < Chris Redman

[Hammock Parties]

You sir are a piece of work.

Preseason stats don't matter, or so I thought?

They matter a whole hell of a lot to the homers right now, so fire is fighting fire.

[O.city]

I don't get why people are so down on Matt Ryan. He hasn't showed much in the postseason, but my god the dude is still really young and improving.

[petegz28]

i think ryan is going to have his best passing year (for fantasy)...new OC, they're running more 3 WR sets, and Jones is the real deal (though that trade was still nuts)

they really need a new RB though...turner is on his way to Jones-ville...

Flowers needs to get healed up fast like and get to practicing. We are going to need him game 1.

[petegz28]

I don't get why people are so down on Matt Ryan. He hasn't showed much in the postseason, but my god the dude is still really young and improving.

3 trips to the playoffs with one of the best TE's in the game, one of the best WR's in the game and 0 wins.

[tecumseh]

Chris Redman > Matt Cassel

Surely, you shittin'?

[O.city]

I don't really give a damn about PS games. It's fun to watch and see how guys look, but team as a whole is knda useless to put much stock into.



Get thru it with no injuries and I say it's a win.

[Mr_Tomahawk]

Surely, you shittin'?

Matt Redman is Chris Cassel.

[O.city]

3 trips to the playoffs with one of the best TE's in the game, one of the best WR's in the game and 0 wins.

Tony has been good, but a shell of himself in Atlanta.


Maybe he's not a clutch guy, I don't know. He hasn't been yet, but I'd sure as shit take him as a Chiefs qb.

[petegz28]

Tony has been good, but a shell of himself in Atlanta.


Maybe he's not a clutch guy, I don't know. He hasn't been yet, but I'd sure as shit take him as a Chiefs qb.

Don't get me wrong, I'd take him over Cassel in a NY minute.

[tecumseh]

Matt Redman is Chris Cassel.

Well.............hell.

[the Talking Can]

3 trips to the playoffs with one of the best TE's in the game, one of the best WR's in the game and 0 wins.

hilarious

sanchez has a passel of playoff wins with mediocre season stats...but he sucks

Ryan is the opposite...but he sucks too

Cassel has neither...he sucks in the regular season and post season...but people still talk about how it is going to click for him this year (as a 30yr old) and we can totally win with him

wtf

[O.city]

Every year there area few teams that we thought would be really good, end up sucking.



Who you guys think they are this year?

[O.city]

hilarious

sanchez has a passel of playoff wins with mediocre season stats...but he sucks

Ryan is the opposite...but he sucks too

Cassel has neither...he sucks in the regular season and post season...but people still talk about how it is going to click for him this year (as a 30yr old) and we can totally win with him

wtf

This.


If the Falcons oline can keep Ryan upright, he's a great qb.

[mcaj22]

The Bengals starting corners are Terrance Newman and a rookie, Kirkpatrick from Bama.


Bengals are strong up front, but the back end is shitty.

Nate Clements? Leon Hall?

lol

[O.city]

Not sure why Atlanta still has their first teamers out there on d at this point.

[O.city]

Nate Clements? Leon Hall?

lol

Tonight, I believe they started those two.

[O.city]

Didn't realize Clemons was 33 years old.

[mcaj22]

Tonight, I believe they started those two.

Leon Hall is still recovering from an ACL injury but he will eventually take over for one of those turd CBs. Nate Clements should also be around

besides whatever they are doing with Taylor Mays at safety, their secondary is decent.

[tecumseh]

hilarious

sanchez has a passel of playoff wins with mediocre season stats...but he sucks

Ryan is the opposite...but he sucks too

Cassel has neither...he sucks in the regular season and post season...but people still talk about how it is going to click for him this year (as a 30yr old) and we can totally win with him

wtf

Cassel has been frustrating to watch at times but I'm not paying him or calling the shots so I do hope someone who saw something impressive can get somebody to teach him, reach him , coach him to the potential that they saw, but for me personally, this year should be his last.

[petegz28]

Tony has been good, but a shell of himself in Atlanta.


Maybe he's not a clutch guy, I don't know. He hasn't been yet, but I'd sure as shit take him as a Chiefs qb.

Just back looking at the highlights and stats from their playoff game last year...

This might be part of the problem

Atlanta Rushing:
64 yards

NY Rushing:
172

Which probably lends itself to:

Ryan 18/41 for 199

Manning 23/32 for 277

[mcaj22]

is Jaquizz Rodgers worth taking a fantasy flyer on?

He looks much better than Michael Turner.

[Dylan]

Dalton to Green, 50 yd. TD catch: highlight of the night.

[tecumseh]

Ryan to Green, 50 yd. TD catch: highlight of the night.

Thanks, Dylan. BTW is that the Black Widow on tha t artsy avatar?

[Mr_Tomahawk]

Thanks, Dylan. BTW is that the Black Widow on tha t artsy avatar?

That's Dylan.

[tecumseh]

That's Dylan.

It could be. It should be. All I know is I'm a beagle.

[Dylan]

Thanks, Dylan. BTW is that the Black Widow on tha t artsy avatar?

oh, thanks, guys. I found the avatar here: http://www.deviantart.com/

[BigMeatballDave]

Call me when Cassel is ever 18/21 for 174 yards.

Ryan is just another guy who breaks franchise passing records.

Cassel is just another shitty guy.

Did I mention Cassel?

Right now, they have equally shitty PO records.

[-King-]

I don't get why people are so down on Matt Ryan. He hasn't showed much in the postseason, but my god the dude is still really young and improving.

He's one of the best above average QB in the league. He'll never be elite, but he isn't bad.

I'd probably put him somewhere around the 10th - 13th best in the league.

[-King-]

It could be. It should be. All I know is I'm a beagle.

LMAO

[jd1020]

He's one of the best above average QB in the league. He'll never be elite, but he isn't bad.

I'd probably put him somewhere around the 10th - 13th best in the league.

I'd put him top 10.

Brady
Rodgers
Brees
P. Manning
E. Manning
Rivers
Roethlisberger
Stafford

Can you think of 2 other QB's you would take over him?

Newton is a possibility but I need to see more than 1 season.

Ryan would be 9th on my list.

[Dylan]

He's a handsome beagle. :D

[Hammock Parties]

Did I mention Cassel?

Right now, they have equally shitty PO records.

That doesn't really provide a good indicator of how good Matt Ryan is, and how shitty Matt Cassel is.

[O.city]

I think if I were starting a team right now, I'm taking Matt Stafford as my qb.

[BigMeatballDave]

That doesn't really provide a good indicator of how good Matt Ryan is, and how shitty Matt Cassel is.

That's correct.

Doesn't change the fact that Ryan has not played well in the post-season.

See Mark Sanchez.

[BigMeatballDave]

I think if I were starting a team right now, I'm taking Matt Stafford as my qb.

Absolutely.

[O.city]

I think after this season or the next, Stafford is a top 4 or 5 qb in the league if he can stay healthy.

[jd1020]

I think after this season or the next, Stafford is a top 4 or 5 qb in the league if he can stay healthy.

I wouldn't take him over any of the elite QBs for that simple reason. He just had his first full season last year. Peyton is probably the only one I would take him over just because of his age and his neck.

[BigMeatballDave]

I think after this season or the next, Stafford is a top 4 or 5 qb in the league if he can stay healthy.

Yep.

If they would just fire Gunther, they'd win some SBs.

Stafford's arm is Elway level great.

[O.city]

I wouldn't take him over any of the elite QBs for that simple reason. He just had his first full season last year. Peyton is probably the only one I would take him over just because of his age and his neck.

If I'm starting a team, I want a young guy. I don't think he's as good as any of the elite guys yet, but I think he will be.

[O.city]

I don't really know that I've seen a qb that has Stafford level arm strength.

[-King-]

I'd put him top 10.

Brady
Rodgers
Brees
P. Manning
E. Manning
Rivers
Roethlisberger
Stafford

Can you think of 2 other QB's you would take over him?

Newton is a possibility but I need to see more than 1 season.

Ryan would be 9th on my list.

Brady
Flacco
Roethlisberger
Schaub
P. Manning
E. Manning
Rivers
Romo
Rodgers
Stafford
Brees

[O.city]

I can't put Flacco up there or Schaub. Schaub has to do something in the playoffs and Flacco has to not waste that defense.



I think this is a different year for Flacco. That defense won't be as unstoppable without Suggs. As much as Lewis is the focal point, I think Suggs is the best player on that d.

[Dylan]

Flacco second? Yikes

Schaub fourth? Yikes

[O.city]

I don't think thats in any order, just the guys in the top 10.

[-King-]

I can't put Flacco up there or Schaub. Schaub has to do something in the playoffs and Flacco has to not waste that defense.


Did you miss last year? Flacco played great during the post season. He was a dropped TD away from going to the superbowl. He outplayed Brady and it wasn't even close. Lee Evans and Billy Cundiff just had to fuck it up for him.

And no Schaub doesn't have post season success. But neither does Ryan. Schaub is better in the regular season though.

[ThaVirus]

I'd put him top 10.

Brady
Rodgers
Brees
P. Manning
E. Manning
Rivers
Roethlisberger
Stafford

Can you think of 2 other QB's you would take over him?

Newton is a possibility but I need to see more than 1 season.

Ryan would be 9th on my list.

I'd take Romo, Vick, Cutler, and Schaub over Ryan. I think that dudes remarkably average.

Dalton and Newton have impressed me more than he has lately. And if I were starting a brand new franchise today I'd probably take Luck or RGIII over him as well.

[Chiefs Pantalones]

Just me but I don't think Atlanta is gonna have the ball long enough to score more than 14 points. We're gonna run it down their throats, they won't be able to get in a rhythm offensively.

[O.city]

Did you miss last year? Flacco played great during the post season. He was a dropped TD away from going to the superbowl. He outplayed Brady and it wasn't even close. Lee Evans and Billy Cundiff just had to **** it up for him.

And no Schaub doesn't have post season success. But neither does Ryan. Schaub is better in the regular season though.

Yes Flacco did play well last year in the playoffs, and did get fucked with Cundiff.


But, like it or not, he was the Qb of the team that lost. He gets alot of the unfair blame, until he gets them over the hump.

[jd1020]

I'd take Romo, Vick, Cutler, and Schaub over Ryan. I think that dudes remarkably average.

Dalton and Newton have impressed me more than he has lately. And if I were starting a brand new franchise today I'd probably take Luck or RGIII over him as well.

I forgot about Cutler. I'd probably put him above Ryan but none of the rest.

[O.city]

I'd take Romo, Vick, Cutler, and Schaub over Ryan. I think that dudes remarkably average.

Dalton and Newton have impressed me more than he has lately. And if I were starting a brand new franchise today I'd probably take Luck or RGIII over him as well.

No chance in hell am I taking Vick. If you take him you better have a backup that can play 4 or 5 games a year.


Cutler tends to be too much of a gunslinger.



Schaub and Ryan are pretty much the same, but I can't call either remarkably average.

[jd1020]

Yes Flacco did play well last year in the playoffs, and did get ****ed with Cundiff.


But, like it or not, he was the Qb of the team that lost. He gets alot of the unfair blame, until he gets them over the hump.

I don't think of Flacco as a top QB because his job is the same as Cassel's... not to **** it up.

[Just Passin' By]

Did you miss last year? Flacco played great during the post season. He was a dropped TD away from going to the superbowl. He outplayed Brady and it wasn't even close. Lee Evans and Billy Cundiff just had to **** it up for him.

And no Schaub doesn't have post season success. But neither does Ryan. Schaub is better in the regular season though.

The Patriots defense was awful last season, and Flacco still couldn't beat it when the Ravens defense gave him a chance by holding Brady & Co. to 23 points.

[O.city]

I don't think of Flacco as a top QB because his job is the same as Cassel's... don't **** it up.

This, or atleast, this so far in his career.



I think that defense starts to age and breakdown, he's gonna have to provide more leadership.

[O.city]

The Patriots defense was awful last season, and Flacco still couldn't beat it when the Ravens defense gave him a chance by holding Brady & Co. to 23 points.

Thing is, he did beat it. He drove them down to pretty much a chip shot to win field goal and their kicker blew it.

[Just Passin' By]

Thing is, he did beat it. He drove them down to pretty much a chip shot to win field goal and their kicker blew it.

No, he didn't beat it, and the field goal would only have tied the game.

[Hammock Parties]

chase coffman sighting

[ThaVirus]

I think Romo is great. The guy obviously puts up great numbers and has been the leader of one of the leagues top 10 offenses since he arrived. His playoff/late season choke acts are a bit disconcerting but I still hold his skills in high regard.

Vick isn't the best passer but he flashes and amazing cannon from time to time. Not to mention the dynamic his legs bring. Has that guy ever started for a team that didn't lead (or come very close to) the league in rushing? Look what he's helped Lesean McCoy do in Philly and what he did for Warrick Dunn in the twilight of his career in Atlanta. Much like Tebow, he takes a lot of pressure off the run blocking o-line and RBs.

[O.city]

Or the dropped td that would have put them ahead, IIRC.



But you are right, that would have only tied it. I thought it was to win. My fault.

[Hammock Parties]

The Patriots defense was awful last season, and Flacco still couldn't beat it when the Ravens defense gave him a chance by holding Brady & Co. to 23 points.

Flacco beat the Patriots.

His receiver dropped the game winner.

[O.city]

I think Romo is great. The guy obviously puts up great numbers and has been the leader of one of the leagues top 10 offenses since he arrived. His playoff/late season choke acts are a bit disconcerting but I still hold his skills in high regard.

Vick isn't the best passer but he flashes and amazing cannon from time to time. Not to mention the dynamic his legs bring. Has that guy ever started for a team that didn't lead (or come very close to) the league in rushing? Look what he's helped Lesean McCoy do in Philly and what he did for Warrick Dunn in the twilight of his career in Atlanta. Much like Tebow, he takes a lot of pressure off the run blocking o-line and RBs.

He's also terrible at reading defenses and gets the shit beat out of him every year cause he runs too much.

[-King-]

Yes Flacco did play well last year in the playoffs, and did get fucked with Cundiff.


But, like it or not, he was the Qb of the team that lost. He gets alot of the unfair blame, until he gets them over the hump.

Still better than Ryan.

[ThaVirus]

Vick for 12-14 games > Ryan for 16.

In my opinion.

I should probably reneg on my previous statement about Ryan. Remarkably average is a bit harsh. I'd say he's above average. Solid. B-.

[-King-]

No, he didn't beat it, and the field goal would only have tied the game.

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[O.city]

Still better than Ryan.

I dunno.



They are very much the same at this point.

[ThaVirus]

He's also terrible at reading defenses and gets the shit beat out of him every year cause he runs too much.

Every QB not in the elite tier has weaknesses.

[Just Passin' By]

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So he threw an incomplete pass. Congratulations in order, or something?

[ThaVirus]

Anyone that watched football last season knows the Ravens should have repped the AFC in the Superbowl last year. Not really much to argue about.

[O.city]

Gotta love the Pats fans on here.

[jd1020]

Anyone that watched football last season knows the Ravens should have repped the AFC in the Superbowl last year. Not really much to argue about.

Both teams that made the SB shouldn't have been there but they were.

[Just Passin' By]

Gotta love the Pats fans on here.

I'm not sure what your point is here, but my posts were about Flacco.

[CoMoChief]

Tony G's full of shit. He just said this year's Falcons are the best team (on paper) he's played on.

[Hammock Parties]

Tony says the 2012 Falcons are the best team he's ever played on.

Week 1 gonna be a war.

[kcxiv]

ughh, what other team was better? 2003 no defense Chiefs? 98 chiefs who choked? thats about the only thing that comes close it hink.

[ThaVirus]

Fuck that guy.

Their ground game will blow and their defense isn't special. I'm struggling to think of anyone on that side of the ball that's intimidating...

Brent Grimes? LMAO

[O.city]

Maybe the Chiefs team that had the best offense in the NFL was better?

[jd1020]

Ryan, Gonzalez, White, Julio. I can see it.

[O.city]

**** that guy.

Their ground game will blow and their defense isn't special. I'm struggling to think of anyone on that side of the ball that's intimidating...

Brent Grimes? LMAO

They have a good defense. They are a good team, it's gonna be a great test for the Chiefs.


WE will have to play well to beat them.

[kcxiv]

Maybe the Chiefs team that had the best offense in the NFL was better?

Except we were so one sided and couldnt win a play off game either. lol 2003 Chiefs is the only team that came close i think, i still wont ever forget the commish making fun of the Chiefs Defense that year. It was that bad.

[Hammock Parties]

Brent Grimes? LMAO

Brent Grimes was the #2 CB in the NFL last season, according to the experts at PFF.

John Abraham is a beast, too.

[ThaVirus]

Ryan, Gonzalez, White, Julio. I can see it.

Except that outside of those guys they really don't have anyone special.

Plus they're all offensive. Tony's played on several Chiefs teams that had HOFers, pro bowlers and put up the stats to prove that they worked extremely well together.

[O.city]

Brent Grimes was the #2 CB in the NFL last season, according to the experts at PFF.

John Abraham is a beast, too.

Abraham seemed to have lost some last year, but they have good players on D.


Witherspoon is a potential all pro at LB.

[O.city]

IIRC, the Falcons oline got their shit pushed in last year against the Giants when they couldn't run the ball for shit and Ryan got bashed around.


Granted, the Giants dline, pretty nasty.


I think we actually match up decently with the Falcons. They don't stop the run very well and don't run the ball very much.

[ThaVirus]

Brent Grimes was the #2 CB in the NFL last season, according to the experts at PFF.

John Abraham is a beast, too.

Abraham is a beast. Grimes is good as well but I'd bet money Bowe would give him the workout of his career.

[Canofbier]

What the fuck is this fat dumbass talking about? What horrible sideline reporting.

[jd1020]

Except that outside of those guys they really don't have anyone special.

Plus they're all offensive. Tony's played on several Chiefs teams that had HOFers, pro bowlers and put up the stats to prove that they worked extremely well together.

When were the Chiefs ever well rounded when he was here?

[ThaVirus]

I think we actually match up decently with the Falcons. They don't stop the run very well and don't run the ball very much.

That's what I'm thinking.. hoping.

Its going to come down to whether or not we can contain Jones and White without letting Tony run too wild.

Do we put Berry over top of Flowers for help deep or stick him on Tony the entire game and leave Flowers out to dry? I like Routt's size and physicality on Julio but we'll see.

[Chiefs Pantalones]

Tony says the 2012 Falcons are the best team he's ever played on.

Week 1 gonna be a war.

Tony says that every year.

[-King-]

The Falcons scored 2 points in the playoffs. Even the 2006 chiefs did better than that ROFL

[O.city]

That's what I'm thinking.. hoping.

Its going to come down to whether or not we can contain Jones and White without letting Tony run too wild.

Do we put Berry over top of Flowers for help deep or stick him on Tony the entire game and leave Flowers out to dry? I like Routt's size and physicality on Julio but we'll see.

You know the best way to slow those guys down?




Have Tamba, Houston, DJ, Berry, whoever, meet about 4 yards behind the center as often as possible.


Matt Ryan is great when he has a clean pocket. He gets rattled when you knock the shit out of him continuously.

[ThaVirus]

When were the Chiefs ever well rounded when he was here?

We've never been well rounded. Ever.

But we had either the best or second best (to Indy) offense in 03.

Best offense + complete garb defense isn't too far off above average offense + average defense.

That 03 could beat anybody. Just needed a lucky bounce or two on defense.

[petegz28]

IIRC, the Falcons oline got their shit pushed in last year against the Giants when they couldn't run the ball for shit and Ryan got bashed around.


Granted, the Giants dline, pretty nasty.


I think we actually match up decently with the Falcons. They don't stop the run very well and don't run the ball very much.

Yea I posted the rushing stats earlier from that game. The Falcons were well under 100 and the Giants ran for 177

[Coogs]

You know the best way to slow those guys down?




Have Tamba, Houston, DJ, Berry, whoever, meet about 4 yards behind the center as often as possible.


Matt Ryan is great when he has a clean pocket. He gets rattled when you knock the shit out of him continuously.

Then run, run, and run some more. Keep them on the sideline.

[ThaVirus]

You know the best way to slow those guys down?




Have Tamba, Houston, DJ, Berry, whoever, meet about 4 yards behind the center as often as possible.


Matt Ryan is great when he has a clean pocket. He gets rattled when you knock the shit out of him continuously.

Good point. I hate to rely on pressure but if we can get to him early it will change the game right off the bat. If Arrowhead is rocking I like our chances.

[jd1020]

We've never been well rounded. Ever.

But we had either the best or second best (to Indy) offense in 03.

Best offense + complete garb defense isn't too far off above average offense + average defense.

That 03 could beat anybody. Just needed a lucky bounce or two on defense.

Or when the other team had to punt... at least one time.

[O.city]

Good point. I hate to rely on pressure but if we can get to him early it will change the game right off the bat. If Arrowhead is rocking I like our chances.

It's alot easier to rely on pressure than covering wr's.

[ThaVirus]

Or when the other team had to punt... at least one time.

LMAO Exactly! I'm still pissed Priest fumbled in that game but I can't be too mad; he went the fuck off. Had like 178 yards if I remember correctly. I more pissed at our shit ass defense for not forcing a SINGLE FUCKING PUNT. Those worthless pieces of shit.

[O.city]

I hope to hell we try and pressure the qb alot more this year with hopefully our defense fully healthy.

[BigMeatballDave]

Tony says the 2012 Falcons are the best team he's ever played on.

Week 1 gonna be a war.Tony lobbied for Thigpen...

[MMXcalibur]

I know they are seventh stringers or whatever, but holy shit did the Falcons receivers shit the bed on that last drive.

[Chiefnj2]

I wish KC had taken a chance on Davis. Kid looked better than Quinn and Stanzi.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

I think we're looking at one powerhouse, and a rising powerhouse.

These teams will dominate their conferences for years to come.

The Bengals ROFL JFC ROFL

You do realize they played the NFC West last year :eek:

[Hammock Parties]

18 OF FUCKING 21.

JFC.

We would be buying Cassel entire harems of women trained in the kama sutra if he ever did that.

[BigMeatballDave]

You do realize they played the NFC West last year :eek:ROFL

[jd1020]

The Bengals ROFL JFC ROFL

You do realize they played the NFC West last year :eek:

The Bengals were like 1-6 against .500+ teams and third stringer TJ Yates wipes the floor with them in the playoffs... POWERHOUSE!

[Pasta Little Brioni]

The Bengals were like 1-6 against .500+ teams... POWERHOUSE!

Absolute frauds like Ryan Fitzpatrick's 1st half.

[Hammock Parties]

The Bengals ROFL JFC ROFL

You do realize they played the NFC West last year :eek:

Yes, we'll see if they are frauds this year.

Based on the fact their QB is a fucking badass, I doubt it.

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[-King-]

The Bengals ROFL JFC ROFL

You do realize they played the NFC West last year :eek:

The Bengals were like 1-6 against .500+ teams and third stringer TJ Yates wipes the floor with them in the playoffs... POWERHOUSE!

ROFL

[O.city]

Their qb was the ultimate game manager last year. They aren't gonna have a running game this year, so he's gonna have to nut up.

[Hammock Parties]

Their qb was the ultimate game manager last year.

He was one of the leaders in downfield passing.

He's a lot better than people give him credit for.


Deep Passing, 2011 Playoff Quarterbacks:

Aaron Rodgers - 30 for 57 (53%)
Drew Brees - 31 for 61 (50.8%)
Andy Dalton - 24 for 56 (43%)

And FFS, he was a ROOKIE.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

After deducting all stats against NFC West teams, teams with losing records, and passes to guys that weren't in the spot they originally were supposed to be in, I have him at 1100 yards passing and 5 TD's. Sorry.

[Chiefs Pantalones]

Visions of another 250 yard rushing performance are dancing in my head when I think about the opener. I think we're gonna gut them.

[Hammock Parties]

Visions of another 250 yard rushing performance are dancing in my head when I think about the opener. I think we're gonna gut them.

Atlanta only had the #6 rushing D last year.

While the Cardinals were #21.

So maybe do a little research before you extrapolate two preseason drives into 250 rushing yards. LMAO

[O.city]

Atlanta only had the #6 rushing D last year.

While the Cardinals were #21.

So maybe do a little research before you extrapolate two preseason drives into 250 rushing yards. LMAO

Yet they were dominated physically up front by the Giants offensive line in the playoffs.

[Hammock Parties]

So we're as good as the Super Bowl champions...

Begun, this troll off, has.

[jd1020]

Yes, we'll see if they are frauds this year.

Based on the fact their QB is a ****ing badass, I doubt it.

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Is that the same badass that completed <50% of his passes and had a TD:INT ratio of 4:5 against the 2 actual powerhouses in his division that he's going to dominate?

[O.city]

So we're as good as the Super Bowl champions...

Begun, this troll off, has.



As good as the Giants offensive line, in regards to the running attack?


I'd hope we are.

[Hammock Parties]

Sorry that a rookie struggled at times. LMAO

If Dalton was our QB, we'd be going insane with joy.

[jd1020]

Sorry that a rookie struggled at times. LMAO

If Dalton was our QB, we'd be going insane with joy.

I'd like our chances better but I still wouldn't be crowning the Chiefs as a playoff winner.

[O.city]

Sorry that a rookie struggled at times. LMAO

If Dalton was our QB, we'd be going insane with joy.

I thought rookies were badass last year and Baldwin was the only one that wasn't?

[Hammock Parties]

I thought rookies were badass last year and Baldwin was the only one that wasn't?

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[O.city]

Troll off, sunup.