Peyton Manning has reportedly had issues throwing to his right.

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

Peyton Manning has reportedly had issues throwing to his right.
ESPN's John Clayton and Matt Williamson of Scouts Inc. have both picked up on this. Per Clayton, Manning is still having problems when trying to throw to his right for more than 10 yards. It's a reminder that Peyton has had three recent neck surgeries, is 36 years old and has shown signs of diminishing arm strength. He's slipped to No. 10 among fantasy quarterbacks in our latest Draft Guide update. Aug 22 - 12:16 PM


http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/1493/peyton-manning

[In58men]

Speculation

[kepp]

He can only turn left
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[Sofa King]

Speculation

Have you watched him play? This is fact, no doubt. The man is as noodle armed as any QB I've ever seen play.

[TEX]

He can only turn left
http://akathewife.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/081911_1952_WhyImAfraid1.jpg



:clap: Good one! ROFL

[TEX]

Have you watched him play? This is fact, no doubt. The man is as noodle armed as any QB I've ever seen play.

Yep. "Something" just doesn't seem quite right. I had attributed it to rust.

[Titty Meat]

Cassel can only throw to half the field too

[FlaChief58]

Peyton is so awesome, he does'nt need to throw to his right. Denver will have 4 WRs lined up on the left which will surprise and confuse opposing Ds. Playing the games is a formality and minor inconvienance to Fox, Manning & Elway who, as everyone already knows, are football gods among mortals and are destined to win the SB this and every year till the end of time. Ye shall bow the the greatness that is the Broncows lest ye be smited! / knowmo

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Have you watched him play? This is fact, no doubt. The man is as noodle armed as any QB I've ever seen play.

They now have thier very own Damon Huard.

[milkman]

The highlights I've seen, his throws to the left are wobble launchers, as well.

From what little I've seen, he looks to have lost about 30% of his arm strength.

[Quesadilla Joe]

ROFL

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Yep, anyone who says he hasn't lost anything either has thier head stuck in the sand or up thier ass.

[Titty Meat]

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[Pasta Little Brioni]

ROFL

What is so funny? For once, Little Cryptkeeper and Burger Bob are spot on about something.

[petegz28]

The highlights I've seen, his throws to the left are wobble launchers, as well.

From what little I've seen, he looks to have lost about 30% of his arm strength.

Not 25%, not 35% but 30%

[FlaChief58]

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As a Chiefs fan, I'd say he looks great and hope this is what he'll be playing like in week 12 (provided he's still playing)

[HemiEd]

The highlights I've seen, his throws to the left are wobble launchers, as well.

From what little I've seen, he looks to have lost about 30% of his arm strength.

Best news I have read in a couple of days.

[Hammock Parties]

He looks wonky.

http://i.imgur.com/9E9Ye.gif

[Quesadilla Joe]

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It sucks that they cut off that highlight package after he got hit. He probably had his best throw of the game after the last play they showed.

[milkman]

Not 25%, not 35% but 30%

If you must know, it looks like exactly 28.97328465442718%, but I was just rounding it up to make it easy to understand for dumbasses, like you.

[Quesadilla Joe]

He looks wonky.

http://i.imgur.com/9E9Ye.gif

Will you gif up the throw that he makes with 1:25 left in the 2nd Quarter?

[A Salt Weapon]

Cassel can only throw to half the field too

Yeah, too bad it's the half behind him.
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[Hammock Parties]

Will you gif up the throw that he makes with 1:25 left in the 2nd Quarter?

The one that resulted in 0 points?

[Amnorix]

In all seriousness, he's 36, coming off major surgery and missed a year. Even if he is going to be PEYTON FUCKING MANNING again, it ain't gonna be this year. Brady was younger and recovering from an ACL and 2009 wasn't his greatest year.

I honestly don't think we'll ever see the same Manning that he was in his prime ever again. I think he will be a very good and effective QB, but he won't be at the Rodgers/Brees/Brady level of play. Even if he was healthy, 36 is about time to start tailing off somewhat.

That doesn't mean he can't be part of a very good team, but the Broncos are NOT a very good team. Not currently at least.

[dirk digler]

Is it stupid of me to think part of the reason why Manning chose Denver was because of the thin air up there and it would make it easier for him to throw?

[ChiefRocka]

Denver comes out of the gate with four wide just left of Manning

[InChiefsHeaven]

Is it stupid of me to think part of the reason why Manning chose Denver was because of the thin air up there and it would make it easier for him to throw?

Yes.




Well, you asked...:D

According to Mythbusters, the thin air aiding in FG kicks and long passes is a myth. It IS thinner, but not enough to make that much of a difference.

[Amnorix]

Is it stupid of me to think part of the reason why Manning chose Denver was because of the thin air up there and it would make it easier for him to throw?


Yeah, probably. :D

[InChiefsHeaven]

He looks wonky.

http://i.imgur.com/9E9Ye.gif

That is some screwed up footwork...didn't even get hit...

[Deberg_1990]

yep this proves it. Based on these recent speculations i now predict Manning to throw for 4800 yards and 40 TDs this season.

[Garcia Bronco]

John "the retard" Clayton keeps saying this, but it's untrue. I saw him throw plenty to the right for more than 20 in TC.

[L.A. Chieffan]

THERES SOME PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO BE HAVING EGG ON THEIR FACE!! HAHAHAHA

http://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=257512

[FlaChief58]

That is some screwed up footwork...didn't even get hit...

Looks like the mind wants to but the body can't.

[jspchief]

Cassel can only throw to half the field tooIs this the real Billay or a room mate or hacker?

[CoMoChief]

Hope there is much truth to this.

I hope he turns out to be a total failure....and then DEN will pick up his montserous tab.

[Rain Man]

I bet Manning retires the night before the season opener. It's over for him.

[MagicHef]

This makes things easy. Just put all the DBs on Manning's left, and you won't have to worry about anything!

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

It sucks that they cut off that highlight package after he got hit. He probably had his best throw of the game after the last play they showed.

I'd hope so because from that video it clearly shows that Manning has traded in his cannon of an arm for a defective wobble launcher.

[Quesadilla Joe]

That is some screwed up footwork...didn't even get hit...

He just got done stepping up in the pocket when Tamme cleared.

[Rain Man]

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Wow. That second interception was awful.

It looked like his two-minute highlight reel featured mostly incompletions and interceptions. This guy is Johnny Unitas in San Diego.

[saphojunkie]

John "the retard" Clayton keeps saying this, but it's untrue. I saw him throw plenty to the right for more than 20 in TC.

Really? Because I saw him throw two lame-ass ducks back-to-back. First one should have been picked off. Second one was.

I wanted Peyton Manning in a Chiefs uniform as much as the next guy, but he is clearly struggling.

[L.A. Chieffan]

Wow. That second interception was awful.

It looked like his two-minute highlight reel featured mostly incompletions and interceptions. This guy is Johnny Unitas in San Diego.

LMAO Keep it rollin...

[whoman69]

Have you watched him play? This is fact, no doubt. The man is as noodle armed as any QB I've ever seen play.

http://a.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img=/i/headshots/nfl/players/full/10719.png&w=350&h=254

[Sofa King]

He looks wonky.

http://i.imgur.com/9E9Ye.gif

I can't get over this play. His throw is the most ridiculous, overcompensating throw I've ever seen. He tries to get MAX speed on the ball but it ends up just wobbling out slow as hell.

Just terrible.

[Sofa King]

http://a.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img=/i/headshots/nfl/players/full/10719.png&w=350&h=254

At least palko was able to hail mary one into the endzone.

If Manning tries to hail mary a pass it will end up 8 yards downfield and 6 yards behind the wr.

[Quesadilla Joe]

I can't get over this play. His throw is the most ridiculous, overcompensating throw I've ever seen. He tries to get MAX speed on the ball but it ends up just wobbling out slow as hell.

Just terrible.

Dude he avoided the rush and as soon as he stepped up Tamme cleared and Manning hit him right in the hands. Should have been a catch.

[dirk digler]

Yes.




Well, you asked...:D

According to Mythbusters, the thin air aiding in FG kicks and long passes is a myth. It IS thinner, but not enough to make that much of a difference.

I figured as much but that was the only reason I could think of for why he chose Denver over much better options.

[Rain Man]

I figured as much but that was the only reason I could think of for why he chose Denver over much better options.

Under the table payments in Denver. It's what Elway did, and now he's in charge.

[Sofa King]

Dude he avoided the rush and as soon as he stepped up Tamme cleared and Manning hit him right in the hands. Should have been a catch.

Normally when people say he hit someone right in the hands, it means he hit them well. Manning's throw was horrible. It was way too far behind Tamme. It's shocking that tamme was able to touch the damn thing at all.

Why did he lift his leg so awkwardly? That just screams overcompensating.

Oh, and what rush? There doesn't seem to be any.

[vailpass]

Not 25%, not 35% but 30%

:D

[Saul Good]

Dude he avoided the rush and as soon as he stepped up Tamme cleared and Manning hit him right in the hands. Should have been a catch.

It looked like a punt. It was the right read, but the throw was awful.

[Quesadilla Joe]

Normally when people say he hit someone right in the hands, it means he hit them well. Manning's throw was horrible. It was way too far behind Tamme. It's shocking that tamme was able to touch the damn thing at all.

Why did he lift his leg so awkwardly? That just screams overcompensating.

Oh, and what rush? There doesn't seem to be any.

He avoided the rush by stepping up. His feet weren't set when he threw the ball to Tamme, that's why it looked awkward.

Sure, the throw could have been a little bit farther to the left, but it was still in a spot where the receiver should have caught it.

[listopencil]

Peyton is so awesome, he does'nt need to throw to his right. Denver will have 4 WRs lined up on the left which will surprise and confuse opposing Ds. Playing the games is a formality and minor inconvienance to Fox, Manning & Elway who, as everyone already knows, are football gods among mortals and are destined to win the SB this and every year till the end of time. Ye shall bow the the greatness that is the Broncows lest ye be smited!


It's about time you recognize. Word.

[tooge]

He avoided the rush by stepping up. His feet weren't set when he threw the ball to Tamme, that's why it looked awkward.

Sure, the throw could have been a little bit farther to the left, but it was still in a spot where the receiver should have caught it.

that ball should have been caught no doubt. The issue is that it was a 10 yard pass, and Manning had to give max effort to try to get it into the window and it was a wobbly and most importantly, nose down pass. Google throwing mechanics. When the nose of the ball is below the rear of the ball, it is a sign of the arm not generating enough power to keep up with the torque of the body as it throws. Donovan McNabb was throwing the same nose down, wobbly ball his last season or two as well. Perhaps it is something that will improve over several weeks, but perhaps not.

[vailpass]

Let's see how he looks after 4 or 5 real games. Then let's see how he looks after 8 or 9 real games. ETc.
He's been out 18 months, he's 36 , he's in a new offense with new WRs and RBs.
We'll see, it's going to be a process.

[listopencil]

He looks wonky.

http://i.imgur.com/9E9Ye.gif


His footwork looks horrible on that segment and it was a really weird looking delivery. He was throwing to his left while planting with his left foot. Still, it was a catchable ball.

[Raiderhater]

If you must know, it looks like exactly 28.97328465442718%, but I was just rounding it up to make it easy to understand for dumbasses, like you.


LMAO

[listopencil]

He avoided the rush by stepping up. His feet weren't set when he threw the ball to Tamme, that's why it looked awkward.

Sure, the throw could have been a little bit farther to the left, but it was still in a spot where the receiver should have caught it.

Well, yeah, I'm sure Manning would rather not make that throw. A pass rarely exists in a vacuum. I think he was contorting his body oddly to take advantage of a situation and the timing of it was a bit off.

[Saul Good]

His footwork looks horrible on that segment and it was a really weird looking delivery. He was throwing to his left while planting with his left foot. Still, it was a catchable ball.

Catchable because the WR slowed way down and turned back for the ball. That ball was a good eight feet behind where it should have been, and Peyton in his prime never missed like that.

It wasn't actually that it was inaccurate so much as it was late, and the timing caused the WR to run past the spot.

[listopencil]

that ball should have been caught no doubt. The issue is that it was a 10 yard pass, and Manning had to give max effort to try to get it into the window and it was a wobbly and most importantly, nose down pass. Google throwing mechanics. When the nose of the ball is below the rear of the ball, it is a sign of the arm not generating enough power to keep up with the torque of the body as it throws. Donovan McNabb was throwing the same nose down, wobbly ball his last season or two as well. Perhaps it is something that will improve over several weeks, but perhaps not.

You would have to see more than that gif to make an honest opinion. It appears clipped to make Manning look as bad as possible. Troll gif is troll.

[listopencil]

Catchable because the WR slowed way down and turned back for the ball. That ball was a good eight feet behind where it should have been, and Peyton in his prime never missed like that.

It wasn't actually that it was inaccurate so much as it was late, and the timing caused the WR to run past the spot.


You can't tell that from that gif.

[Saul Good]

Well, yeah, I'm sure Manning would rather not make that throw. A pass rarely exists in a vacuum. I think he was contorting his body oddly to take advantage of a situation and the timing of it was a bit off.

So what? He had a clean pocket, and the ball didn't have to travel 15 yards.

[listopencil]

So what? He had a clean pocket, and the ball didn't have to travel 15 yards.

You can't see his previous movement from that gif.

[King_Chief_Fan]

I think he was contorting his body oddly to take advantage of a situation and the timing of it was a bit off.

yeah, that's the ticket:)

[listopencil]

yeah, that's the ticket:)

Of course QB's always plant their left feet when throwing a short pass to the left, right?

[BoneKrusher]

Cassel can only throw to half the field too

and this makes it so much easier for opposing defenses.

[FlaChief58]

It's about time you recognize. Word.

What word?

[Hammock Parties]

Matt Cassel has reportedly had issues throwing to his left AND his right, and up the middle.

[Rain Man]

Manning's mechanics are like those of Kevin Spacey in The Usual Suspects.

[BoneKrusher]

Matt Cassel has reportedly had issues throwing to his left AND his right, and up the middle.

it's also reported that he's is really good at checkdowns but not screens.

[Sofa King]

Matt Cassel has reportedly had issues throwing to his left AND his right, and up the middle.

Yeah we know. We're talking about Manning in this thread though.

[listopencil]

What word?

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m40345dAO31rrr8v1o3_500.gif

[CoMoChief]

Matt Cassel has reportedly had issues throwing to his left AND his right, and up the middle.

LMAO

[Red Dawg]

This needs to be posted at the mane.

[Amnorix]

that ball should have been caught no doubt. The issue is that it was a 10 yard pass, and Manning had to give max effort to try to get it into the window and it was a wobbly and most importantly, nose down pass. Google throwing mechanics. When the nose of the ball is below the rear of the ball, it is a sign of the arm not generating enough power to keep up with the torque of the body as it throws. Donovan McNabb was throwing the same nose down, wobbly ball his last season or two as well. Perhaps it is something that will improve over several weeks, but perhaps not.


I won't get into nose down, nose up stuff, but I will say this -- Manning always threw more wobbly balls than I would've expected for an elite QB, but they always went to where he wanted them to go, when he wanted it to get there. I was always amazed at that.

[Sofa King]

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m40345dAO31rrr8v1o3_500.gif

Awesome

[notorious]

I hope he is 95-100% of his old self. We need the AFC West to rape again, and the only way that is going to happen is if our rivals return to form (along with ourselves).


Besides, it will hurt a lot more to beat them at their peak instead of stomping on a shit team.

[BigMeatballDave]

Cassel can only throw to half the field tooMatt Cassel has reportedly had issues throwing to his left AND his right, and up the middle.

Birds of a feather...

[Chiefs Pantalones]

I'm watching the Seattle/Denver game again and I can't believe he looks like this. He just looks old; he looks just like a 36 year old QB on his last legs. I know it's only preseason but I've never seen Manning look like this. For Colts fans it has to be depressing to watch him like this.

[Bwana]

Denver "we're all in, we have two pair, what do you have?"

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[Hammock Parties]

I'm watching the Seattle/Denver game again and I can't believe he looks like this. He just looks old; he looks just like a 36 year old QB on his last legs. I know it's only preseason but I've never seen Manning look like this. For Colts fans it has to be depressing to watch him like this.

Dude.

He threw for 177 yards.

He looked fine other than one bad overthrown INT.

If Tamme doesn't drop an easy TD catch it's 14-9 Denver after 2 quarters.

The Donks had almost 250 yards of offense in one half.

That team looks good.

[Bowser]

Denver "we're all in, we have two pair, what do you have?"

http://static.ddmcdn.com/gif/poker-basics-ga-1.jpg

ALL. REDS.

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[Chiefs Pantalones]

Dude.

He threw for 177 yards.

He looked fine other than one bad overthrown INT.

If Tamme doesn't drop an easy TD catch it's 14-9 Denver after 2 quarters.

The Donks had almost 250 yards of offense in one half.

That team looks good.

LMAO

[BWillie]

Cassel can only throw to half the field too

Correction, 10% of the field. The 10 yds immediately in front of him.

[Quesadilla Joe]

by far THE dumbest thing I have seen re manning and his arm. I can't even tell you how stupid this report is. Does he throw a lot of short to medium passes yes he does in practice. But to think he struggles on his right side more than left is simply idiotic
https://twitter.com/dmac1043/status/238449145462009856

DMAC has been to every practice since Manning signed in Denver. I think I will trust him over Clayton going to one practice.

[Quesadilla Joe]

Manning had one incomplete pass leading up to the halfway point of the SECOND quarter. And that incomplete pass was batted at the line and was picked off by a defensive lineman. The dude went 16-23 and had his receivers drop 3 of his passes. He played great.

[BigMeatballDave]

Dude.

He threw for 177 yards.

He looked fine other than one bad overthrown INT.

If Tamme doesn't drop an easy TD catch it's 14-9 Denver after 2 quarters.

The Donks had almost 250 yards of offense in one half.

That team looks good.LMAO

http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/trolls-doll-red-hair-small.jpg

[Rain Man]

https://twitter.com/dmac1043/status/238449145462009856

DMAC has been to every practice since Manning signed in Denver. I think I will trust him over Clayton going to one practice.


My reading of that is that he's having issues throwing to both sides now. He seems to be degrading.

[Hammock Parties]

Doubters should go watch the Donks preseason game against Seattle.

Their D looked pretty good, OL was fine.

Manning made one bad throw that was an INT, and another tipped pass at the line was a great play by the Seattle DL that got picked.

They could have easily scored 21 points in the first half instead of 10. They had over 200 yards of offense.

Pretty solid.

[Marcellus]

My reading of that is that he's having issues throwing to both sides now. He seems to be degrading.

That's how I read it.

[Quesadilla Joe]

That's how I read it.

Yeah it's twitter. You know that isn't how he meant to say it.

[Quesadilla Joe]

Doubters should go watch the Donks preseason game against Seattle.

Their D looked pretty good, OL was fine.

Manning made one bad throw that was an INT, and another tipped pass at the line was a great play by the Seattle DL that got picked.

They could have easily scored 21 points in the first half instead of 10. They had over 200 yards of offense.

Pretty solid.

What program would I have to use to cut out a segment from a torrent and post it on YouTube? I want to put Manning's 2 minute drive from the Seattle game on YouTube but have no idea how to do it.

[BigMeatballDave]

Doubters should go watch the Donks preseason game against Seattle.

Their D looked pretty good, OL was fine.

Manning made one bad throw that was an INT, and another tipped pass at the line was a great play by the Seattle DL that got picked.

They could have easily scored 21 points in the first half instead of 10. They had over 200 yards of offense.

Pretty solid.http://thmg.photobucket.com/albums/v230/Ghazhkull_Thraka/th_grain-of-salt.jpg

[Hammock Parties]

What program would I have to use to cut out a segment from a torrent and post it on YouTube? I want to put Manning's 2 minute drive from the Seattle game on YouTube but have no idea how to do it.

http://www.avsmedia.com/avs-video-converter.aspx

[Bane]

66% of the time it works every time.

[Quesadilla Joe]

http://www.avsmedia.com/avs-video-converter.aspx

Thanks

[Groves]

I'd be all in favor of Manning not being his old good self,

but to be fair, when you've seen him pass in previous seasons doesn't he always look like he's throwing MAX velocity? He's had that MAX velocity throwing look about him for years.

[mr. tegu]

Doubters should go watch the Donks preseason game against Seattle.

Their D looked pretty good, OL was fine.

Manning made one bad throw that was an INT, and another tipped pass at the line was a great play by the Seattle DL that got picked.

They could have easily scored 21 points in the first half instead of 10. They had over 200 yards of offense.

Pretty solid.

What program would I have to use to cut out a segment from a torrent and post it on YouTube? I want to put Manning's 2 minute drive from the Seattle game on YouTube but have no idea how to do it.

Can't you keep your dissociative identity symptoms off the board?

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Dude.

He threw for 177 yards.

He looked fine other than one bad overthrown INT.

If Tamme doesn't drop an easy TD catch it's 14-9 Denver after 2 quarters.

The Donks had almost 250 yards of offense in one half.

That team looks good.

ROFL Give me a fucking break

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[Pasta Little Brioni]

Doubters should go watch the Donks preseason game against Seattle.

Their D looked pretty good, OL was fine.

Manning made one bad throw that was an INT, and another tipped pass at the line was a great play by the Seattle DL that got picked.

They could have easily scored 21 points in the first half instead of 10. They had over 200 yards of offense.

Pretty solid.

Amazing the excuses you make for other teams.

[SAUTO]

Amazing the excuses you make for other teams.

It's like a virus around here


Spreading
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[Pasta Little Brioni]

It's like a virus around here


Spreading
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I blame the midgets

[SAUTO]

I blame the midgets

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[-King-]

Amazing the excuses you make for other teams.

It's going to be hilarious hearing his spin if Cassel has a good game against Seattle this week.
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[Pasta Little Brioni]

It's going to be hilarious hearing his spin if Cassel has a good game against Seattle this week.
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Nanny nanny boo boo doesn't count I throw my doo doo.

[Bewbies]

While we're hoping Manning isn't his old self can we hope Cassel isn't his old self either?

[Pasta Little Brioni]

While we're hoping Manning isn't his old self can we hope Cassel isn't his old self either?

We don't have to hope about Manning, we've seen that wobble launcher in action. 37 year olds don't gain arm strength either.

[Quesadilla Joe]

ROFL Give me a ****ing break

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The Seahawks have a really good defense.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Of course they do they play in the NFC West. Nothing counts against them, so they give up 0 PPG and 0 YPG.

[BigMeatballDave]

The Seahawks have a really good defense.

Its preseason.

How could you possibly know now?

[Quesadilla Joe]

Its preseason.

How could you possibly know now?
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[bowener]

Its preseason.

How could you possibly know now?

Because they intercepted Manning.

[1ChiefsDan]

https://twitter.com/dmac1043/status/238449145462009856

DMAC has been to every practice since Manning signed in Denver. I think I will trust him over Clayton going to one practice.

Mark Kiszla ‏@markkiszla
Manning is rusty. No doubt. But, to tell the truth, his arm doesn't look ready. Mind working fine. Body betraying him. Worrisome? A little.

[Quesadilla Joe]

Mark Kiszla ‏@markkiszla
Manning is rusty. No doubt. But, to tell the truth, his arm doesn't look ready. Mind working fine. Body betraying him. Worrisome? A little.

He tweeted that during the game. And Kiszla is a moron. Legwold is the only person who has good football takes at the Denver Post.

[BossChief]

Mark Kiszla ‏@markkiszla
Manning is rusty. No doubt. But, to tell the truth, his arm doesn't look ready. Mind working fine. Body betraying him. Worrisome? A little.

This is exactly what Ive been chanting for months and months.

His competitive nature paired with his "new and deformed arm" is gonna lead to trouble in crucial situations.

His brain is gonna say yes while his arm says no...at least for awhile and possibly for eternity.

[Chiefs=Champions]

Its as i predicted in the knowmo thread. His body is going to let him down. Sad.

[Chiefs=Champions]

The broncos should really trade for mjd. Take the pressure of manning a little.

Id also say that thomas' improvement will suffer as a result. One throw tebow could make was the deep ball. Not sure manning can take advantage of him anymore. Think thomas needs to add more to his game.

[BossChief]

For the Broncos, MJD would be well worth a 1st round pick.

With a 36 year old Peyton Mannning, they need to make some ALL IN moves and getting a guy like MJD on their roster is worth over spending for.

[Titty Meat]

Its preseason.

How could you possibly know now?

They were good last year?

[tk13]

This is exactly what Ive been chanting for months and months.

His competitive nature paired with his "new and deformed arm" is gonna lead to trouble in crucial situations.

His brain is gonna say yes while his arm says no...at least for awhile and possibly for eternity.

I'm not gonna let you slide with that one. Very few people were saying that. You definitely weren't. Sorry.

A 36 year old Manning and a very young Ricky Stanzi is close to a perfect scenario for our qb situation.

I give us a better than 50% chance of getting the deal done.

If there wasn't a real possibility of this coming to fruition, Denver wouldnt even be in the picture.

http://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost.php?p=8429358&postcount=59

[tk13]

And before you all get defensive and turn on me:

I partially agree with GoChiefs. I called the Priest Holmes thing the second he got hurt. Anything with the neck and above is a big problem when you play football. Look how secretive he's been about it. He had neck surgeries no one even knew about.

The good thing is you have to be a workaholic like Manning or Priest Holmes to come back... I do think Manning can come back. I'm not that skeptical. I am however skeptical he can go from arm atrophy to Super Bowl caliber QB in about 6 months. I totally believe he could come back this year, look a bit sloppy, go 8-8... everyone turns on him... he gets cut, goes somewhere else and look solid with another 12 months under his belt.

People are in fantasyland like 2005 Peyton Manning is going to walk out there in September. It's possible... but people acting like there are no question marks are crazy. He's still a gigantic question mark to me. He's a 36 year old QB with neck problems. Just because 70% of Manning > Cassel doesn't mean 70% Manning is going to win a Super Bowl.

This post is great because I would almost bet money that Peyton Manning is not playing in the Super Bowl next February. I think he can certainly make the playoffs, but this year is probably akin to when Brady took over Cassel's 11-5 team, went 10-6 and still made the playoffs. And that may be pushing it. It's assuming there are no complications or problems.

I think regardless of who signs Manning, it's not a one year project anyway. I think it'll take him at least a 2nd season to get up to speed. The 1 year, $30 million idea is insane. I'd almost be willing to bet money that Peyton Manning will not play in the Super Bowl next year. The guy hasn't been physically able to throw a football properly in over a year. And by many accounts, still can't. I think expecting him to come back by September and look like '05 Manning is fantasy. I get the 70% Manning > Cassel jokes, but 70% Manning isn't going to a Super Bowl. That's the goal here.

And this is in the perfect world scenario where his nerves completely re-generate in the next six months and he doesn't take any big hits/has no further neck complications in the next 18 months.

I can't believe 90% of people seem to just carry on with these discussions like nothing is wrong and he's going to be a FA. He hasn't been able to throw a football at normal strength in over a year... and still can't.

[BigMeatballDave]

They were good last year?

That means exactly shit in the NFL.

Again, its preseason.

[BigMeatballDave]

This is exactly what Ive been chanting for months and months.

His competitive nature paired with his "new and deformed arm" is gonna lead to trouble in crucial situations.

His brain is gonna say yes while his arm says no...at least for awhile and possibly for eternity.

If it doesnt get better, he's gonna toss 20+ INTs.

[NJChiefsFan]

When it comes to an obstacle, even if manning is playing well, cassel is still the bigger factor on where kc finishes relative to Denver.

[Predarat]

Hopefully pretty soon he has issues even being able to walk to the huddle. And by pretty soon I mean the 2nd half of the 1st game.

[nychief]

Dogs can't look up.

[Caseyguyrr]

Dogs can't look up.

dogs CAN look up

[the Talking Can]

he's not going to finish the season

[Caseyguyrr]

he's not going to finish the season

no way in hell

[notorious]

he's not going to finish the season

NFL officials say otherwise.


Of course, he might go on IR without taking a hit.

[bevischief]

I blame the midgets

ROFL

[Kaylore]

lol

[Garcia Bronco]

Double lol

[scorpio]

triple dog dare LOL

http://i.imgur.com/o1cGE.gif

[clyde05]

Yes it is same old Peyton, would have never known he missed a year.

[BoneKrusher]

yep, good QB's lift their team to a higher level.