10 changes that NEED to be made

[BossChief]

1) Berry to free safety. The kid has speed to burn and is a superb tackler. That is a double edged sword for a guy coming off an ACL tear that's playing strong side safety. I think he should have been a free safety all along. He isn't playing well in coverage at all and my hope is that a move to the weak side will help him. He was a Ballhawk as a FS at Tennessee.

2) Daniels back to corner. This team is hurting for corners that can play and he is totally ineffective at safety. Stupid move to have ever moved him there in the first place.

3) Breaston needs to sit and Baldwin needs to start. I wasn't gonna overreact after him not getting a lot of time against Atlanta, but the kid needs to be on the field twice as much for us to get a return on the investment.

4) Cassel needs to be put on notice that he will get pulled if he doesnt start giving this team a spark. The guy obviously deflates the team when we are down in games and I'm already to see Quinn. He may not be an upgrade, but it's better than being complacent.

5) Romeo needs to dial it up a notch and stop playing on our heels. This defense came alive when we starting dictating the tempo last year and these players aren't built for read and react, they are ALL attacking types. USE THE STRENGTHS OF YOUR PLAYERS, ROMEO. More press, let the DL attack and run some zone blitzes like the second half of last year.

6) Cut Rope a fifty and sign Shaun Smith. This defense misses his attitude and intensity as a rotational linemen and he can come in right away and make a difference.

7) Pass more out of the two tight end sets. It seems we are becoming predictable with our formations and opposing teams can see it coming. We don't have the chemistry built yet to be able to dictate and impose our will in those sets...maybe even activate Maneri if we are gonna continue to do so.

8) Lilja needs to sit and Allen needs to take his place. I know the Bills DL is exceptional, but Lilja was a rag doll out there. The future starts now, no sense in leaving an ineffective 30 year old out there.

9) Let someone else make the defensive calls or share the HC responsibilities because having two guys do 3 peoples jobs with a roster that desperately needs development from top to bottom isn't working AT ALL. Gigantic design flaw that Pioli should damn well have known.

10) Jerrell Powe needs more time. Poe looks allright for a n00b, but Powe has a very high ceiling and needs reps to develop further. In limited time, he has shown the ability to blow shit up and this team needs all the explosives it can get.

[The Franchise]

I'm with you on #1. I know there are people around here that are against it though. I'm pretty sure Spongeblack Bobtard is one of them.

[ModSocks]

I'm with you on #1. I know there are people around here that are against it though. I'm pretty sure Spongeblack Bobtard is one of them.

I don't really care if he's FS or SS, just get him playing coverage again for FFS.

[Chiefnj2]

This team needs more Piscatelli.

[BigCatDaddy]

Lilja > Asamoah at this point.

[The Franchise]

Lilja > Asamoah at this point.

Um.....no.

[mcaj22]

I'm with you on #1. I know there are people around here that are against it though. I'm pretty sure Spongeblack Bobtard is one of them.

lol spongeblack bobtard

[BigCatDaddy]

Um.....no.

Um.. yes. Go rewatch the games. Asamoah is getting beat like a rented mule.

[Rasputin]

I'd love to see Jerrell Powe get more time I believe he can be beast. I'd even be down for Poe to move to RDE inplace of Dorsey. I don't know WTF Dorsey is doing?

[The Franchise]

Um.. yes. Go rewatch the games. Asamoah is getting beat like a rented mule.

He got beat against the Bills.....but he didn't look as bad as Lilja did. If Asamoah is bad......Lilja is teh suck.

[Deberg_1990]

Id rather we just go 1-15, Pioli gets canned and we draft #1 overall. Hope and Change…..

[BigCatDaddy]

He got beat against the Bills.....but he didn't look as bad as Lilja did. If Asamoah is bad......Lilja is teh suck.

The all sucked against the Bills to a degree, but Asamoah gets beat way too often. Regardless I would like to see Allen in one spot or another.

[BossChief]

Um.. yes. Go rewatch the games. Asamoah is getting beat like a rented mule.

He is still learning and White Williams is one of the most underrated DL in the game. I agree he needs to step up, but saying he is worse than Lilja is dead wrong.

Sorry.

[ModSocks]

Also, i'd like to add that Ropati and Poe need to gtfo on obvious passing downs. They're aren't maintaining their lanes and they're allowing immobile QB's to run through huge lanes.

Might as well just keep Dorsey and Jackson out there.

[KC_Lee]

#11 - Avoid a meaningless, late season 5 - 6 game winning streak.

[BossChief]

Ropati is a huge disappointment thus far.

He needs to get replaced by the deep freeze nut cruncher.

[Blick]

Agreed on all accounts.

I don't know how Ropati made the team.

Amon Gordon was better.

[gblowfish]

Who has time to read lists that are ten things long???

[Reerun_KC]

Crennel needs to know that he is on the cut list also..

that ****er cant sit here and let the Chiefs get raped every sunday GROB style...

[htismaqe]

#11 - Avoid a meaningless, late season 5 - 6 game winning streak.

This.

[Micjones]

I agree with most of the list.
I wouldn't sit Breaston in favor of Baldwin though.

[Chiefnj2]

It doesn't matter if it is Baldwin or Breaston. The #2 WR isn't getting many looks. They could start an armless guy and it wouldn't make a difference.

[Nightfyre]

The problem is that Cassel doesn't go through progressions. He stares down his number one read and if he isn't comfortable with the throw he checks down.

[Micjones]

The problem is that Cassel doesn't go through progressions. He stares down his number one read and if he isn't comfortable with the throw he checks down.

He doesn't go through progressions well.
He hasn't had much time to do that though.
Teams are daring the Chiefs to throw and coming after him.

[saphojunkie]

He doesn't go through progressions well.
He hasn't had much time to do that though.
Teams are daring the Chiefs to throw and coming after him.

Cassel just sucks. I don't care why he doesn't go through progressions.

[BossChief]

We also need to eliminate these timely turnovers.

The two Cassel fumbles and the Hillis one all KILLED US.

You aren't gonna win in this league when you turn the ball over when the game is still close and you play flat.

[KC_Lee]

So let's say the Chiefs make all 10 of these changes. We go what, 10 - 6 or 9 - 7 and pull a wild card.

That give us;
- Cassell as our QB forever
- Pioli as GM for another 10 years
- And RAC as HC for at least 2 more years with no up and comer waiting in the wings to take over. Meaning we get another NE retread.

Are we sure we really want the Chiefs to make these changes?

[MIAdragon]

Um.. yes. Go rewatch the games. Asamoah is getting beat like a rented mule.

Like a $500 Donkey?

[htismaqe]

So let's say the Chiefs make all 10 of these changes. We go what, 10 - 6 or 9 - 7 and pull a wild card.

That give us;
- Cassell as our QB forever
- Pioli as GM for another 10 years
- And RAC as HC for at least 2 more years with no up and comer waiting in the wings to take over. Meaning we get another NE retread.

Are we sure we really want the Chiefs to make these changes?

:thumb:

[BossChief]

So let's say the Chiefs make all 10 of these changes. We go what, 10 - 6 or 9 - 7 and pull a wild card.

That give us;
- Cassell as our QB forever
- Pioli as GM for another 10 years
- And RAC as HC for at least 2 more years with no up and comer waiting in the wings to take over. Meaning we get another NE retread.

Are we sure we really want the Chiefs to make these changes?

Good point.

Mods, please delete this thread.

[GoShox]

I'd love to see Shaun Smith back and according to pretty much all of his Twitter posts, he'd love to be back. Not gonna hold my breath though..

[Coogs]

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/peyton-manning-is-toast-roger-goodell-is-george-w-bush-and-other-nfl-truths-091812
Read points #10 and points #7 and apply them towards the Chiefs. Fits damn near perfect. We can not do #10, as Cassel is 3 and 17 in those type of games. And #7 replace Manning with Cassel and you have our team down cold.

Which means your point #4 needs to be taken seriously BossChief. As do the others. Good post.

[aturnis]

I agree with #3. Breaston is decent, but would be better off the bench. Baldwin won't grow if not given the opportunity. I admit he could run better routes, especially when they require timing, but he has the ability to compete for the ball.

[DTLB58]

1) Berry to free safety. The kid has speed to burn and is a superb tackler. That is a double edged sword for a guy coming off an ACL tear that's playing strong side safety. I think he should have been a free safety all along. He isn't playing well in coverage at all and my hope is that a move to the weak side will help him. He was a Ballhawk as a FS at Tennessee.

2) Daniels back to corner. This team is hurting for corners that can play and he is totally ineffective at safety. Stupid move to have ever moved him there in the first place.

3) Breaston needs to sit and Baldwin needs to start. I wasn't gonna overreact after him not getting a lot of time against Atlanta, but the kid needs to be on the field twice as much for us to get a return on the investment.

4) Cassel needs to be put on notice that he will get pulled if he doesnt start giving this team a spark. The guy obviously deflates the team when we are down in games and I'm already to see Quinn. He may not be an upgrade, but it's better than being complacent.

5) Romeo needs to dial it up a notch and stop playing on our heels. This defense came alive when we starting dictating the tempo last year and these players aren't built for read and react, they are ALL attacking types. USE THE STRENGTHS OF YOUR PLAYERS, ROMEO. More press, let the DL attack and run some zone blitzes like the second half of last year.

6) Cut Rope a fifty and sign Shaun Smith. This defense misses his attitude and intensity as a rotational linemen and he can come in right away and make a difference.

7) Pass more out of the two tight end sets. It seems we are becoming predictable with our formations and opposing teams can see it coming. We don't have the chemistry built yet to be able to dictate and impose our will in those sets...maybe even activate Maneri if we are gonna continue to do so.

8) Lilja needs to sit and Allen needs to take his place. I know the Bills DL is exceptional, but Lilja was a rag doll out there. The future starts now, no sense in leaving an ineffective 30 year old out there.

9) Let someone else make the defensive calls or share the HC responsibilities because having two guys do 3 peoples jobs with a roster that desperately needs development from top to bottom isn't working AT ALL. Gigantic design flaw that Pioli should damn well have known.

10) Jerrell Powe needs more time. Poe looks allright for a n00b, but Powe has a very high ceiling and needs reps to develop further. In limited time, he has shown the ability to blow shit up and this team needs all the explosives it can get.

Damn dude you rocked it out. Nice :thumb:

I would add, Have Jammal freaking Charles Start a game and get 20-25 carries.

[bevischief]

Stop helping them out we suck for Geno Smith and a new leadership.

[saphojunkie]

http://www.pureglare.com/product/view.aspx?pro_id=BN00095&so=GL&pid=605331&gclid=COXsoNuMp7ICFWZfTAodUioAlg

Read points #10 and points #7 and apply them towards the Chiefs. Fits damn near perfect. We can not do #10, as Cassel is 3 and 17 in those type of games. And #7 replace Manning with Cassel and you have our team down cold.

Which means your point #4 needs to be taken seriously BossChief. As do the others. Good post.

WTF is this link?

[Saccopoo]

He is still learning and White Williams is one of the most underrated DL in the game. I agree he needs to step up, but saying he is worse than Lilja is dead wrong.

Sorry.

Don't be. But the dude is correct. Asamoah has been getting destroyed out there in the first two games. He's horrible and can't pass block worth a lick. Like I said, they should have taken Zane Beadles instead of McCluster and this is a non-issue; however, the guard position is a serious question mark right now with both Lilja and Asamoah getting owned the first two games. And Allen was so up and down in the pre-season that who knows what he's going to provide.

Should have just drafted Pete Konz and left Hudson at guard. Konz looked really good for the Falcons again last night.

Wait until Pioli drafts Barrett Jones in the first round next year.

[MahiMike]

just go 0-16 and look at the long term benefits

[Gravedigger]

He doesn't go through progressions well.
He hasn't had much time to do that though.
Teams are daring the Chiefs to throw and coming after him.

4 seasons of starting in the NFL, I would hope that would be enough time for him to go through his progressions.

[notorious]

Id rather we just go 1-15, Pioli gets canned and we draft #1 overall. Hope and Change…..

With our luck someone will go 0-16, and we will lose a 3 way tie and draft 4th overall.



FFS we went 2-14 and only drafted 3rd. :facepalm:

[FloridaMan88]

10 changes? This can really be summarized in three changes...

1) Fire Fat Scott
2) Fire Romeo and his coaching staff
3) Shit can Cassel

[Coogs]

WTF is this link?

Sorry! Corrected it. Here it is if you don't want to scroll back up...

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/peyton-manning-is-toast-roger-goodell-is-george-w-bush-and-other-nfl-truths-091812

[BossChief]

That redirects to a "coaches bullying refs" story

[Coogs]

That redirects to a "coaches bullying refs" story

Use the scroll down feature my friend, use the scroll down!


EDIT: It is a Whitlock article, but those two points are spot on for the Chiefs. That is not to mention the actual Chiefs point he brings up.

[BossChief]

My laptop is out of commission at the moment and I'm just using my phone and there is no scroll down.

Any chance you could copy and paste it here when you get the time?

[Ming the Merciless]

1) place every idiot who advocates losing games to better our draft pick into a large shipping container

2) Call up Greece or another gay country and negotiate the sale of these queerbaits at a bulk rate (but not too cheap)

3) Include a free tarp, several midgets , Crisco by the tub and condoms

4) Call someone in Somialia and warn them a cargo full of valuable material is on the way

5) Assist the Somalians with a team of Black Ops / Contractors to pirate the 'Gay Vessel'

6) Agree to let some of the passengers be raped based on which act more like women

7) WHen the somalians try and ransom the 'gay vessel' intercept the phone call with elite tech gear

8) agree to pay the ransom for the 'gay vessel' and agree to rendezvous point somewhere off the coast of somalia

9) when the somalis come with the 'gay vessel' being towed, 1st destroy the gay vessel..sink it to the ground...then let the somalis go, as they have done nothing wrong

10) Live with the honor of not being a pussy ass bitch

[Coogs]

My laptop is out of commission at the moment and I'm just using my phone and there is no scroll down.

Any chance you could copy and paste it here when you get the time?

Sorry for the delay. I have been busy.


Your NFL Truths for Week 2:

10. Watching the Ravens and the Eagles on Sunday, it dawned on me why no one — except the 49ers — wants to run the football and maintain a balanced offense anymore: Eli Manning.

Despite his two Super Bowls and terrific play in the fourth quarter, Eli is not elite. Football coaches know this. They also know the Giants won the Super Bowl with the worst running game in football last season.

The belief now among many coaches is the rules are so stacked in favor of the passing game that you can win it all with an average QB and a below-average running game as long as you’re willing to throw the ball 65 percent of the time.

John Harbaugh believes Joe Flacco is every bit as good as Eli Manning. Andy Reid thinks Michael Pick is every bit as good as Eli Manning. Harbaugh and Reid might be right. They also believe LeSean McCoy and Ray Rice — arguably, two of the four best backs in football — can’t carry a team to the Super Bowl.

Harbaugh gave away a game on Sunday because he refused to run Rice. Harbaugh is cool with that. The Giants proved you don’t have to be all that good in the regular season. Just make the tournament and roll the dice with your pass-happy mediocre QB.

That is the Ravens' Super Bowl formula. They want to get lucky the same way the Giants got lucky in their two Super Bowl seasons. Coughlin’s Giants have never been the best team in football. They went 10-6 and 9-7 in their Super Bowl seasons.

The turnover-plagued Eagles are the luckiest team in football at the moment. Maybe some Baltimore or Philly receiver will trap a wounded duck on his helmet and propel Reid or Harbaugh to a Super Bowl victory.

9. If you understand human nature — and coaches understand human nature better than most people — you understand why replacement referees are struggling.

The No. 1 goal for a replacement ref is to get out of the game without being the story. This is the top priority because the replacement refs are not stupid. You have broadcasters and journalists who wouldn’t dare say a negative word about a coach, player or executive taking potshots at the disposable refs. This is an unprecedented, no-risk chance to talk tough. The replacement refs are under unbelievable public scrutiny.

Coaches know this. They’re instructing players to disregard the rules. If the replacement refs flagged everything they’re seeing, the games would come to a complete halt and the refs would be blamed. A crew that flagged everything would toss 30 to 40 flags per game. It would set off a stadium riot, and everyone would blame the replacement refs.

NFL stadiums on game days are highways with no cops. Everybody is going 20 mph over the speed limit.

Rather than vilify the replacement refs, you should feel sorry for them. They’re substitute teachers working in a school in which the parents (coaches) are telling the students to break the rules.

What can be done beyond ending the strike? Nothing.

8. My new nickname for Roger Goodell is Roger W. Goodell. The commissioner is football’s George W. Bush.

Seriously, I’ve defended the replacement refs. But this weekend, the levees broke on the replacement refs and Roger Dubya Goodell released a statement saying the refs performed “admirably.” This was President Bush praising “Brownie” for doing a good job in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina.

Also, in Bush-like fashion, Dubya Goodell tortured political prisoner Gregg Williams into signing a sworn document that Jonathan Vilma paid $10,000 for a weapon of mass destruction against Brett Favre.

Don’t be surprised when Dubya Goodell invades the NBA’s New Orleans Hornets because the New Orleans Saints broke NFL rules.

Mission accomplished, Roger!

7. John Fox melted down in the first half of Monday night's Broncos-Falcons game because he witnessed his worst Peyton Manning fears, not because the refs were awful.

Berating the refs and talking about the refs were convenient excuses for Fox and ESPN “MNF” analyst Jon Gruden to avoid the elephant in the room. Manning can't throw the ball accurately or with zip more than 20 yards. Manning is toast. Every time he tried to challenge the middle of the field, the Falcons intercepted his weak pass.

Denver scrapped its game plan after the first quarter. Manning threw sideways the rest of the night. Denver was reduced to dinking and dunking. This was painfully obvious. It was embarrassing listening to Gruden avoid the topic and continue to sing the praises of Manning as he handed the ball to Willis McGahee and threw 8-yard outs to Brandon Stokley.

I get that Manning is ratings gold for TV networks, but Gruden took a dump on his own credibility shilling for Manning in such an obvious manner. Manning used to make the opposition defend the entire field. That’s over. He can’t take the top off a defense. On numerous first and second downs, the Falcons walked their safeties up and begged Manning to throw deep. He never even tried. When he threw a few skinny post routes, the passes lacked the customary zip. They got there at about the same time as the safety or corner, who blew up the receiver or defensed the pass.

6. Peyton Manning made an enormous mistake not signing with the 49ers.

It’s obvious Manning needs help. Jim Harbaugh can hide a quarterback with a weak arm. Alex Smith is exhibit A. Plus, the San Francisco defense, Frank Gore, Vernon Davis and Michael Crabtree give a weak-armed QB more places to hide.

Manning is going to play his entire career without getting help from a top-flight offensive mind. This is criminal. You pair Manning — even this spaghetti-arm Manning — with Harbaugh and you have a combination that can win multiple Super Bowls.


5. Ndamukong Suh looked like the second coming of Warren Sapp during Sunday night’s Lions-49ers game.

I’ve been a critic of Suh. For my money, he has underachieved his first two seasons. But Sunday night, he was a force. He played like the beast we saw at Nebraska. The 49ers had no choice but to double-team Suh in passing situations. Detroit’s defense played good enough to win Sunday’s game. Suh set the table.

4. I like Greg Schiano. He looks and sounds like an NFL head coach. Schiano reminds me of a young Tom Coughlin.

Yep, 17 years ago Coughlin entered the NFL as a 49-year-old college head coach with a major chip on his shoulder. Coughlin led the expansion Jacksonville Jaguars to the AFC Championship Game in his second season. Coughlin was a military-style workaholic who didn’t care what people thought of him.

I disagree with Schiano’s end-of-game decision to rough up the Giants in victory formation, but I absolutely love his attitude. He told the defending Super Bowl champion coach to go &*%* himself at midfield and then calmly defended his actions in the postgame news conference.

Score one for Schiano.

3. My former Kansas City Star colleagues, Kent Babb and Sam Mellinger, did a nice job Monday of reminding Chiefs fans of the problems I pointed out regarding general manager Scott Egoli in 2009.

Egoli — referred to by some as “Pioli” — is in over his head, lacks self-awareness and worries way too much about things that absolutely do not matter because his football acumen is suspect. Egoli is a major problem. His insecure, paranoid leadership style is undermining the success of the franchise. Babb pointed this out last season with a terrific, well-reported story on Egoli’s bizarre relationship with former head coach Todd Haley. Egoli allegedly listened to Haley’s phone calls and conversations.

Well, there’s an even bigger problem in KC than Egoli: out-of-town ownership.

Clark Hunt lives in Dallas. He’s disconnected from the fan base and the organization. Egoli and former Chiefs general manager King Carl Peterson have run the franchise poorly because there is so little direct oversight of their management style. The cats will play while the boss is away. Absolute power corrupts. Clark Hunt gives his general managers/presidents way too much power.

The Chiefs and the Royals have been largely irrelevant for decades because ownership resides in another state. Royals owner David Glass lives in Arkansas.

2. It doesn’t matter how poorly Jets quarterback Mark Sanchez performs; there will not be an authentic QB controversy in New York.

Football fans, particularly New York football fans, are not as dumb as the media. There is no real future in building around Tim Tebow at quarterback. Tebow is great for TV ratings and web clicks, but he’s not going to be the QB of a consistent winner.

Here’s the best-case scenario for smart Jets fans: The Jets finish the season 6-10 and with a top-12 draft pick. Matt Barkley continues to have a mediocre senior season at USC and scouts sour on him. Barkley falls out of the top five of the draft.

Barkley could be the next Dan Marino. Remember, Marino had a disappointing senior season and fell into the Miami Dolphins lap at the bottom of the first round. Barkley won’t have to fall that far into the lap of Rex Ryan or the next Jets coach.

1. It’s not just the loss of Sean Payton that has the Saints in an 0-2 toilet. It’s playing musical chairs at interim coach.

Payton had the right idea when he originally reached out to his friend Bill Parcells to coach the Saints this season. When Parcells declined, the Saints decided to go with Joe Vitt and Aaron Kromer as interim head coaches. Vitt led during the offseason. Kromer is leading during the first six weeks while Vitt is serving a six-game suspension. This has contributed to the chaos and New Orleans’ winless start.

Payton needed to turn his team over to one proven leader for the entire season. Dick Vermeil would have been the perfect choice. Drew Brees desperately needs a friend, a quarterback-friendly coach. Brees has a dirty little secret that I told you about last season. Because he’s short, he throws two or three floaters a game that can be picked off. Payton does a solid job of hiding Brees’ secret.

I might have deleted a bit of #4 because I had to delete a bunch of thrown in extra crap clong the edges.

[Coogs]

I see you are on here tonight BossChief. Here it is again.

[Black Bob]

Berry should never move to FS. He is clearly a SS. He hits like a truck and closes on the RB fast than any player in the league. Romeo is currently using him wrong. If you move him to FS you'll be using him wrong. This is like the Pollard to LB argument. It's never going to happen.

[BossChief]

I'm not an expert, but I did stay at a holiday inn express last night.

I know, it wasn't funny the first time.

But seriously...I know people have written him off, but I still think Stanzi will spark this team when he takes over for a struggling Brady Quinn around week 9 or 10.

[BossChief]

Berry should never move to FS. He is clearly a SS. He hits like a truck and closes on the RB fast than any player in the league. Romeo is currently using him wrong. If you move him to FS you'll be using him wrong. This is like the Pollard to LB argument. It's never going to happen.

Free safeties don't have to tackle in run support now?

W

T

F

?

In 2007 and 2008, Eric Berry played free safety at Tennessee and here is his production:

158 tackles (average of 79 per year)
12 interceptions
3 sacks
1 forced fumble
3 defensive scores

In 2009, he moved to the strong side and here is what he did:
83 tackles
1 forced fumble
2 interceptions
0 sacks
0 scores

The guy needs to be put back at the position where he was an exciting playmaker.

[Sorter]

Ed Reed is clearly a liability in run support. rollseyes

[BossChief]

Same for Brian Dawkins from his eagles career.

Those are the guys I see as what Berry SHOULD BE and COULD BE RIGHT NOW IF USED CORRECTLY.

The problem is this regime is stuck in 1997 where you built to stop the run, first and foremost.

When you are spending high picks on guys like Jackson and are putting Berry in the box most of the time, you are "doing it wrong"

Jmo...I could be wrong.

[Sorter]

FWIW, I agree completely.

[Black Bob]

Free safeties don't have to tackle in run support now?

W

T

F

?

In 2007 and 2008, Eric Berry played free safety at Tennessee and here is his production:

158 tackles (average of 79 per year)
12 interceptions
3 sacks
1 forced fumble
3 defensive scores

In 2009, he moved to the strong side and here is what he did:
83 tackles
1 forced fumble
2 interceptions
0 sacks
0 scores

The guy needs to be put back at the position where he was an exciting playmaker.


You are flat out wrong. He played FS on certain plays just like he does in KC. He also played CB, SS, OLB, PR, KR, and QB in an option package. I have watched almost every game he played in. I wanted to draft him from the first game I saw him.

He was not a FS in 2007 and 2008. He was a strong safety and that is a straight up lie. This is the kind of bullshit I am talking about. You are ****ed up for calling me out all the time.

Now you will probably say something like "I was just testing you."

He played John Lynch's position in Monte Kiffen's cover 2 dumbass!

[Black Bob]

Ed Reed is clearly a liability in run support. rollseyes

**** you pedophile. You are a ****ing creep with your middle school girl gifs.

[chiefzilla1501]

None of what you say matters as long as Daboll dials up his predictive scheme, Cassel continues to be absolutely incompetent throwing past 15 yards, and our defense continues to get out schemed because we have no coordinator. And none of that will stop the downhill slide of softness our defense is experiencing.

This team is hopeless. I have never seen a more talented team more undermined by frustratingly dumb decisions from up top.

[Sorter]

As to putting Berry in the box, I don't dislike the philosophy behind it. Eric is one of the few guys who can match up with Davis, Gates, Jimmy Graham, and Gronk while still being good against the run.

People forget we used Berry in the exact same way in his rookie year. He had an entire year off with rehab. It is going to take some time, especially in live situations for him to start feeling comfortable back there.

[Black Bob]

I gotta tell you guys. I am pissed about the way Boss just goes around talking shit with no links or anything else. Then he leads the raiding party on telling me how much I suck.

Do you guys see this? How many years have you been listening to his bullshit? Any SEC fan can tell you the Barry was the SS the whole time.

It was the same way at CC with this guy. He's full of shit. He is just making shit up and manipulating you. You know what I am talking about.

[The Franchise]

My friend is a Vols fan.....who watches every game. He didn't play SS the entire time you fucking dipshit.

And you've done this more than once......but IT'S FUCKING BERRY YOU RETARD. NOT BARRY.

[Black Bob]

My friend is a Vols fan.....who watches every game. He didn't play SS the entire time you ****ing dipshit.

And you've done this more than once......but IT'S ****ING BERRY YOU RETARD. NOT BARRY.

I type fast. LMAO

Your friend is wrong. Why don't you show some real proof you ****ing liar. You are just as bad. it's no coincidence you are the other guying saying "move him to FS."

He played FS in certain packages etc. Everywhere shows him as a SS. Hell, his break out game was against UGA in Sanford Stadium and I was there watching him play SS!

"My friend told me" or "my special Chiefs informant told me!"


**** YOU!

We're not doing this anymore!

I've been holding back and I'm not waiting for you to ask nicely anymore.

[The Franchise]

“I don't think something like a position should keep you from (being) up there. If you want to get into positions, I played every position in the defensive backfield in Coach (Monte) Kiffin's scheme. You could also say I played a little linebacker also, (plus) free safety, strong safety, nickel and corner for three years.

That's a quote from Berry.

[DeezNutz]

That's a quote from Berry.

What did Barry have to say?

[The Franchise]

Keep editing your posts you worthless fuck. Continue to talk out of your ass and get proven wrong. I'll defend R8ers and Setsuna before I ever defend your retarded ass.

[Brock]

**** YOU!

We're not doing this anymore!

I've been holding back and I'm not waiting for you to ask nicely anymore.

Oh no! Pest has been told.

[The Franchise]

That's coming from someone who watched every Vols game and is a huge Berry fan. Someone who I actually respect......unlike your faggot ass.

[Black Bob]

That's coming from someone who watched every Vols game and is a huge Berry fan. Someone who I actually respect......unlike your pillowbitergot ass.

From you it's from a friend and a fan. It's easy to find the depth chart from 2007 and 2008.

From Boss it's from a Chief's source.

Fuck you guys

FUCK YOU LIARS

YOU ARE LOSERS

[Black Bob]

That's a quote from Berry.

No shit you dumb ****. I already posted that. I am saying he played SS 90% of the time. JUST LIKE IN KC.

You suck man. You are ****ing pussy who has nothing but this website. People should not be listening to you as you are a liar. YOU GOT NOTHING and YOU ARE NOTHING.

[BossChief]

My laptop is fucked or I would post the embed codes for a bunch of YouTube videos showing Berry in 2007 and 2008 playing MOSTLY free safety in base defense.

Apparently it doesn't even show them on the mobile version.

Tell ya what, BlackBob, post a couple videos from those years showing him playing the strong side more than a few select times for matchups and I'll leave you alone till the season is over.

Shot, the guy lined up as a quarterback a couple times and as a wideout a few too...I guess you'll be along shortly to tell me "Erak Barrie" is a querterbak.

[The Franchise]

Your proof is a depth chart? LMAO

[BossChief]

From you it's from a friend and a fan. It's easy to find the depth chart from 2007 and 2008.

From Boss it's from a Chief's source.

Fuck you guys

FUCK YOU LIARS

YOU ARE LOSERS

Go fuck your kat. (spelled in the way I'm sure you spell it)

Nearly every single play he makes in those videos is from the side of the field that free safeties line up on.

Show me I'm wrong and ill leave you alone.

Little bitch.

[Black Bob]

Tennesee vs. Florida 2007

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWij0BlWsD0

That was his first pick. The dude was a SS 90% of the time.

Fuck you guys. I am done with you

[DaneMcCloud]

Fuck you guys. I am done with you

LIAR!!!

FUCK YOU, YOU'RE A LIAR.

JFC, what an epic dipshit.

[BossChief]

Hahaha

Over a half hour worth of watching videos of Berry and couldn't find one that proved me wrong, huh...oh wait, you found one with one play.

FFS everyone with eyes knows they played him more on the strong side against Florida because....wait for it.......Tim Tebow is left handed.

FTR nobody cares what you think you saw when you watched a football game.

Everyone here knows how many times you've tried to comment on things that never even happened in games.

Like when your eyes told you that Alex tanney played in the first ps game

Or how bad Bailey was playing WHEN HE WAS INJURED AND DIDN'T PLAY AT ALL

Or a lot of other instances just like this one.

Eric Berry played a lot of roles at Tennessee...he lined up everywhere including special teams and offense.

The majority of the time as a freshman and sophomore, he was lined up on the quarterbacks left facing side unless he was playing a left handed quarterback...until his junior season when they wanted to use him more in the box and as a third linebacker in sub work...similarly to what we are doing with him this year in the nickel.

[notorious]

**** you guys. I am done with you

Yesssss!!

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[007]

Tennesee vs. Florida 2007

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWij0BlWsD0

That was his first pick. The dude was a SS 90% of the time.

**** you guys. I am done with you

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[oldman]

I'm pretty much on board with everything the OP said, especially items 1, 4, 5, and 9. If Boss is out this weekend, I'd rather see Maneri in there instead of JO.

[Black Bob]

Hahaha

Over a half hour worth of watching videos of Berry and couldn't find one that proved me wrong, huh...oh wait, you found one with one play.

FFS everyone with eyes knows they played him more on the strong side against Florida because....wait for it.......Tim Tebow is left handed.

FTR nobody cares what you think you saw when you watched a football game.


Everyone here knows how many times you've tried to comment on things that never even happened in games.

You are flat out wrong. He played FS on certain plays just like he does in KC. He also played CB, SS, OLB, PR, KR, and QB in an option package.

No shit you dumb ****. I already posted that. I am saying he played SS 90% of the time. JUST LIKE IN KC.


Berry made some plays at FS. He made some plays at SS, QB, CB and other positions to. Again....He played strong safety 90% of the time. Get you head out of your ass and watch game tape instead of highlight reels.

Like when your eyes told you that Alex tanney played in the first ps game

I ate crow about that. Keep hanging onto that. It says alot.

Or how bad Bailey was playing WHEN HE WAS INJURED AND DIDN'T PLAY AT ALL

What did I tell you then? Tell my whole angle dickhead. I said he was sucking before he was hurt. He was third string behind Pitoitua. All this talk about moving him into to this formation or that is ****ing horseshit. He got beat out! He has sucked this year. He was outplayed on the field in preseason. More people than just me saw it. Do you understand?

Keep an eye on defensive end Ropati Pitoitua. He has outplayed 2011 third-round pick Allen Bailey and he may be a keeper. http://espn.go.com/blog/afcwest/post/_/id/46906/camp-confidential-kansas-city-chiefs


Or a lot of other instances just like this one.

Eric Berry played a lot of roles at Tennessee...he lined up everywhere including special teams and offense.

The majority of the time as a freshman and sophomore, he was lined up on the quarterbacks left facing side unless he was playing a left handed quarterback...until his junior season when they wanted to use him more in the box and as a third linebacker in sub work...similarly to what we are doing with him this year in the nickel.

I think we already covered this. If you read what other people had to say you wouldn't like a fool so much. This is just more of the dumbass arrogant BS.



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[Black Bob]

Yesssss!!

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Good ****ing morning. It's a new day.

Your proof is a depth chart? LMAO

Not every team does things the "Patriot Way." Especially in college football.

[Black Bob]

You can't just watch a highlight video of Berry and say he played here or there. Everyone knows he played all over the place.

Let's watch some game film.

2007 South Carolina - Strong Safety most of the day against a right handed QB.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVhxKkvduH8


2007 Alabama - Strong Safety most of the day against a right handed QB.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxwFncPljuY

2008 UCLA - Strong Safety most of the day against a right handed QB.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtumUd0VemE

2008 Vanderbilt - Strong Safety most of the day against a right handed QB

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fItjwACR17I



It's really easy to see he hardly ever plays FS if you watch the game tape. There are more out there but these are the best quality.

This is a dumb argument and you guys are just making shit up. I'm not going to argue with you idiots anymore.

[Molitoth]

**** you guys. I am done with you

Good.

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[Black Bob]

Good.

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Fuck you. I meant them not you.:evil:

[htismaqe]

No shit you dumb ****. I already posted that. I am saying he played SS 90% of the time. JUST LIKE IN KC.

You suck man. You are ****ing pussy who has nothing but this website. People should not be listening to you as you are a liar. YOU GOT NOTHING and YOU ARE NOTHING.

The meltdown will be epic. Epic I tell ya.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Id rather we just go 1-15, Pioli gets canned and we draft #1 overall. Hope and Change…..

Mmm...smells like victory.

[The Franchise]

You can't just watch a highlight video of Berry and say he played here or there. Everyone knows he played all over the place.


Would you make up your fucking mind?

Keep editing your posts and changing your stance. First it was he played SS in college. Then you edited it to include that he moved around. Then you changed again and said that he played all over the place. Pick a fucking stance.

[Black Bob]

Would you make up your ****ing mind?

Keep editing your posts and changing your stance. First it was he played SS in college. Then you edited it to include that he moved around. Then you changed again and said that he played all over the place. Pick a ****ing stance.

BULLSHIT. ALL I DID WAS CORRECT GRAMMER AND SPELLING.

For once why don't you present something real shit cock slut.

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[whoman69]

Berry can't play free safety because we don't have another safety that can tackle.

[Quesadilla Joe]

He is still learning and White Williams is one of the most underrated DL in the game. I agree he needs to step up, but saying he is worse than Lilja is dead wrong.

Sorry.

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[BossChief]

So far, 3, 5, 8 and 10 have happened.

[cabletech94]

So far, 3, 5, 8 and 10 have happened.

4 out of 10 aren't bad. :D

[Black Bob]

So far, 3, 5, 8 and 10 have happened.

Great job. Romeo really took your advice! :lame:

[the Talking Can]

Powe

when the pressure came in the second half, Brees wasn't able to step up in the pocket and escape it

normally our NT has been neutralized...i think it was powe most of the time, who ever it was deserves credit

if the middle doesn't collapse, then Brees has to choose between fleeing right (Houston) or fleeing left (Hali)

[Black Bob]

Powe

when the pressure came in the second half, Brees wasn't able to step up in the pocket and escape it

normally our NT has been neutralized...i think it was powe most of the time, who ever it was deserves credit

if the middle doesn't collapse, then Brees has to choose between fleeing right (Houston) or fleeing left (Hali)

Powe really made a difference and I thought he would have a big day at his homecoming game. It will be interesting to see if he remains the starter in the weeks ahead or if it was just the gameplan.

I don't think we blitzed any more than usual. To me, it looked like the blitzes were just executed better and the playcalling was better. They were much more straight forward plays and weren't as exotic as they have been. For whatever reason we hadn't blitzed the MLBs much until yesterday. I think Romeo is finally coming back down to earth.

[htismaqe]

So far, 3, 5, 8 and 10 have happened.

8 hasn't happened, really.

Jeff Allen is playing but Lilja hasn't been pulled.

That being said, is it possible HUDSON is the problem?

[BigCatDaddy]

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Thanks.

[Quesadilla Joe]

Thanks.

For what it's worth, both Lilja and Asamoah graded out highly vs the Saints.

[BossChief]

4 might have already happened and I'm waiting on 1 and 6.

:)

[Rain Man]

We need to move to start Allen Bailey, Edgar Jones, and Dontari Poe so we can have the Edgar Allen Poe defense.

[Nightfyre]

Nice.

[Hammock Parties]

8 hasn't happened, really.

Jeff Allen is playing but Lilja hasn't been pulled.

That being said, is it possible HUDSON is the problem?

No, he's grading out quite well.

[TRR]

Romeo has relegated Berry to spying running backs. RAC used him this way against Spiller and Sproles. However, I hate that he isn't playing more of a center-field type role. Closing on WR's and making plays deep. He is playing more of a LB's role a majority of the time only to see things happen behind him and watch him get eaten up in the running game by pulling guards. It doesn't make a ton of sense to me.
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[BossChief]

Romeo has relegated Berry to spying running backs. RAC used him this way against Spiller and Sproles. However, I hate that he isn't playing more of a center-field type role. Closing on WR's and making plays deep. He is playing more of a LB's role a majority of the time only to see things happen behind him and watch him get eaten up in the running game by pulling guards. It doesn't make a ton of sense to me.
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Me neither.

The way he is being used increases the probability of re-injury and completely negates his natural speed and playmaking ability.

TBH it pisses me off.

[Rain Man]

The way I see Berry so far is that he's great at run enforcement and is a sideline to sideline guy in that respect. In pass coverage, he's good at both man to man and at being a center fielder type of safety. However, his weakness is in figuring out who to cover and where to be in coverage.

I don't know what that means, other than that there are two good roles for him: a strong safety run stopper who lives in the box (what he does now), or a deep free safety who cleans up other's mistakes. I actually think his current role is the best fit right now.

[BossChief]

Add 2, 4, 6 and 9 to the list of stuff that is being utilized from this list I put together nearly 2 months ago.

Now, only 1, 5, 7 and 10 need to happen.

6 out of 10 of these have happened (maybe not totally the way I put it, but whatever...my way would have been better)

Oh, and please give Stanzi a shot, guys.

[Phobia]

Add 2, 4, 6 and 9 to the list of stuff that is being utilized from this list I put together nearly 2 months ago.

Now, only 1, 5, 7 and 10 need to happen.

6 out of 10 of these have happened (maybe not totally the way I put it, but whatever...my way would have been better)

Oh, and please give Stanzi a shot, guys.

It's a very good thing you drew up this cheat-sheet for the Chiefs when you did or else we'd be looking at a 15 loss season.

[BossChief]

Most of the moves have been made once it was too late, Phil.

[BlackHelicopters]

This team needs more Piscatelli.

Direct and to the point. Accurate as well. Give me Sabby or give me death.