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gblowfish
09-23-2012, 10:10 PM
This is the same guy who cheap shotted Moeaki two years ago. Today he knocked Houston QB with a head to head shot, and cut off a piece of Shaub's ear. Nasty, Nasty hit, and illegal as hell. This is Jack Tatum stuff.
Check it out:

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/matt-schaub-loses-piece-ear-illegal-hit-013507090--nfl.html

KCrockaholic
09-23-2012, 10:11 PM
True. He is. And not just because of this.

RealSNR
09-23-2012, 10:25 PM
I don't care. He's awesome! /Knowmo

Rain Man
09-23-2012, 10:26 PM
I couldn't see much on that link, but it's easy to convince me the Broncos are cheating cheap shot thugs.

Frazod
09-23-2012, 10:28 PM
I'm so enjoying watching them fail. Fucking scum.

Rausch
09-23-2012, 10:31 PM
I'm so enjoying watching them fail. ****ing scum.

This would be like going back to the 90's, putting Jim Kelly on the Raiders, and then watching them play like $3it and lose...:clap:

qabbaan
09-23-2012, 10:32 PM
Shaub actually was roughed on two consecutive plays by the defense and they were flagged for both.

Mays hit wasn't late, but it was for sure one of those helmet to helmet, intent to injure type of hits. Everybody out there knows about leading with the helmet and its pretty hard to see that being a mistake.

T-post Tom
09-23-2012, 11:02 PM
With his history, I hope the NFL doles out the MAXIMUM penalty.

Phobia
09-23-2012, 11:05 PM
With his history, I hope the NFL doles out the MAXIMUM penalty.

PM Dole to find out.

Planetman
09-23-2012, 11:12 PM
Poor bastard lost part of his ear on the cheap shot.

Imon Yourside
09-23-2012, 11:15 PM
Cheating donkey scum is as always Cheating donkey scum, right up there with stiffing Elway.

MagicHef
09-23-2012, 11:19 PM
With his history, I hope the NFL doles out the MAXIMUM penalty.

What history? Blocking Moeaki really hard?

By the way, Champ defensed the pass with his foot on that play.

ClevelandBronco
09-23-2012, 11:35 PM
You guys need to settle down. You do want Mays to knock Cassel into retirement, right?

FAX
09-23-2012, 11:39 PM
Poor bastard lost part of his ear on the cheap shot.

Eh.

You don't pass with your ear.

FAX

Black Bob
09-24-2012, 06:01 AM
I love it and we need a guy like that imo.

Quesadilla Joe
09-24-2012, 07:33 AM
http://www.gifsoup.com/imager.php?id=1938850

headsnap
09-24-2012, 07:56 AM
Eh.

You don't pass with your ear.

FAX

depends on what you are passing... ;)

Direckshun
09-24-2012, 08:05 AM
gif of Moeaki getting injured

Shit post, you welching asshole.

Celebrating cheap, illegal hits to the head. You can pretty much contract AIDS.

Quesadilla Joe
09-24-2012, 08:15 AM
Shit post, you welching asshole.

Celebrating cheap, illegal hits to the head. You can pretty much contract AIDS.

Oh, come on. That is football. Hits like that were applauded 10 years ago. Dick Butkus was a legend because of plays like that.

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Black Bob
09-24-2012, 08:18 AM
Oh, come on. That is football. Hits like that were applauded 10 years ago. Dick Butkus was a legend because of plays like that.



I love that the players are still doing it despite the fines. It's part of the game. Did you see Ridley drop that pass when Ed Reed was closing on him last night? That was after the Branch hit. I love it.

These guys get paid alot of money to basically be gladiators. They don't have to play. The NFL's problem was ever admitting there was a problem. They should have taken the boxing approach imo.

The more blood the better.

Sofa King
09-24-2012, 08:37 AM
Oh, come on. That is football. Hits like that were applauded 10 years ago. Dick Butkus was a legend because of plays like that.

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The game has changed, dumbass. Surely even you can admit that. Player safety is a huge topic.

Hopefully Mays gets suspended for this bullshit hit. Denver isn't good enough to win outright so they have to do these cheap shots. This is worse than the bounties IMO. At least those guys got paid.

DJ's left nut
09-24-2012, 08:53 AM
I still think the Moeaki hit was legal. Moeaki was going through the motions on a throwaway kickoff and Mays let him have it. Lesson learned, rook - play hard every down.

The hit on Schaub was dirty as a MFer though.

notorious
09-24-2012, 08:55 AM
I still think the Moeaki hit was legal. Moeaki was going through the motions on a throwaway kickoff and Mays let him have it. Lesson learned, rook - play hard every down.

The hit on Schaub was dirty as a MFer though.

This.

MagicHef
09-24-2012, 09:27 AM
The interesting thing to me is that Manning took a pretty big helmet to helmet hit before this. No one is talking about it though, because he still has all his ears.

Iowanian
09-24-2012, 09:28 AM
I wonder if Donk fans will think it is as funny when someone scrambles Manning's eggs.....

Frazod
09-24-2012, 09:31 AM
Mike Tyson approves of Joe Mays.

FlaChief58
09-24-2012, 09:32 AM
The interesting thing to me is that Manning took a pretty big helmet to helmet hit before this. No one is talking about it though, because he still has all his ears.

Oh, come on. That is football. Hits like that were applauded 10 years ago. Dick Butkus was a legend because of plays like that.



Can't have it both ways

notorious
09-24-2012, 09:38 AM
http://l.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/GOp7_7AmaNTjmMbxgBn57Q--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7cT04NTt3PTYzMA--/http://media.zenfs.com/en/blogs/sptusnflexperts/matt-schaub-ear.jpg

Chief Faithful
09-24-2012, 10:08 AM
Oh, come on. That is football. Hits like that were applauded 10 years ago. Dick Butkus was a legend because of plays like that.

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Butkus played all out, Mays just cheap shots. Little similarity between the two.

TheGuardian
09-24-2012, 10:14 AM
Joe Mays is a piece of shit and one of the dirtiest players in the league right now. I hope someone gets enough of this asshole and ends his career.

MahiMike
09-24-2012, 10:16 AM
Del Rio puttin' out the bounties...

MagicHef
09-24-2012, 10:24 AM
Joe Mays is a piece of shit and one of the dirtiest players in the league right now. I hope someone gets enough of this asshole and ends his career.

Really? I don't think he's ever even been fined before. I think Chiefs fans have a distorted view of him due to the Moeaki hit (which was completely legal).

Brock
09-24-2012, 10:26 AM
It will probably come around on Manning at some point. Then the Bronco fans will cry much.

notorious
09-24-2012, 10:28 AM
In the old NFL, that hit gets glorified on a NFL Films special.


Today's NFL, that hit gets you a 1 game suspension and 100K fine.

GordonGekko
09-24-2012, 10:31 AM
[QUOTE=Cassel>Manning;8945093]Oh, come on. That is football. Hits like that were applauded 10 years ago. Dick Butkus was a legend because of plays like that...QUOTE]

Stop comparing current shitty Donkey players to NFL LEGENDS. GFY.

BTW, I watched the vid and it showed Butkus hitting (albeit hard) ball carriers and flankers, not QB's that have long gotten rid of the ball.

Al Czervik
09-24-2012, 11:31 AM
And the dumbshit Donk fans booing like it was a bad call...LOL

notorious
09-24-2012, 11:32 AM
And the dumbshit Donk fans booing like it was a bad call...LOL

On the Mange there are a few defending it.

Black Bob
09-24-2012, 11:33 AM
All I know is we need to get alot tougher. The Broncos won the West last year and part of the reason is because they were the toughest team. Tone setters like Brian Dawkins and Joe Mays go a long way.

Lzen
09-24-2012, 12:00 PM
[quote=Cassel>Manning;8945093]Oh, come on. That is football. Hits like that were applauded 10 years ago. Dick Butkus was a legend because of plays like that...QUOTE]

Stop comparing current shitty Donkey players to NFL LEGENDS. GFY.

BTW, I watched the vid and it showed Butkus hitting (albeit hard) ball carriers and flankers, not QB's that have long gotten rid of the ball.

I agree with most of this post. However, I don't think the hit was late. He got there just right after Schaub released the ball. That is legal. But he lowered his head to deliver a helmet to helmet hit. That is not legal.

RealSNR
09-24-2012, 12:02 PM
Really? I don't think he's ever even been fined before. I think Chiefs fans have a distorted view of him due to the Moeaki hit (which was completely legal).

How about the Jamaal Charles dirty takedown in 2009 because he was frustrated from getting his shit pushed in all game?

Quesadilla Joe
09-24-2012, 12:05 PM
How about the Jamaal Charles dirty takedown in 2009 because he was frustrated from getting his shit pushed in all game?

That was Ayers.
http://imageshack.us/a/img253/8735/ayerscharles.gif

FAX
09-24-2012, 12:10 PM
That was Ayers.
http://imageshack.us/a/img253/8735/ayerscharles.gif

God. I'd forgotten about that thing.

I hope that asswipe was ejected from the game and arrested later that night.

FAX

Black Bob
09-24-2012, 12:11 PM
Anyone remember when Brackenridge punched Marshall in the nuts? That one was great.

Brock
09-24-2012, 12:14 PM
That was Ayers.
http://imageshack.us/a/img253/8735/ayerscharles.gif

Look at that toughness and leadership. Really sets the tone. /blackboob

Garcia Bronco
09-24-2012, 12:14 PM
This is the same guy who cheap shotted Moeaki two years ago. Today he knocked Houston QB with a head to head shot, and cut off a piece of Shaub's ear. Nasty, Nasty hit, and illegal as hell. This is Jack Tatum stuff.
Check it out:

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/matt-schaub-loses-piece-ear-illegal-hit-013507090--nfl.html


He wasn't trying to hurt the guy and was pulling up to not hit him. You're actually giving him too much credit, because it's not a smart person in general to realize he could hurt someone.

Black Bob
09-24-2012, 12:16 PM
Look at that toughness and leadership. Really sets the tone. /blackboob

Exactly, if our players weren't such pussies, that shit probably doesn't happen. That was a cheap shot but that's going to happen in the NFL. However, it happens less to the tough teams.

MagicHef
09-24-2012, 12:17 PM
How about the Jamaal Charles dirty takedown in 2009 because he was frustrated from getting his shit pushed in all game?

You're right. I forgot about that one, mainly because that was back when he wasn't even a Bronco.

I guess that time he hit Trent Green in the head when Green was sliding was pretty dirty, too.

Garcia Bronco
09-24-2012, 12:17 PM
Really? I don't think he's ever even been fined before. I think Chiefs fans have a distorted view of him due to the Moeaki hit (which was completely legal).

Yeah...I am looking at that play and I can't see anything illegal at all.

suds79
09-24-2012, 12:18 PM
Being that I couldn't care less about Schaub and the play didn't have anything to do with the Chiefs, I kinda liked it.

It was some old school football that you just don't see in the NFL anymore.

FAX
09-24-2012, 12:18 PM
Look at that toughness and leadership. Really sets the tone. /blackboob

Screw that. My God. What an embarrassment. Goat fans should hang their heads in shame and jam steak knives up their asses in disgrace and smash Boone's Farm Apple Wine bottles over their heads in ignominy and smear their bodies with rancid clam juice in mortification ... well, I guess we should forget about the clam juice part since they do that anyhow ... but you get the idea.

What an animal.

FAX

Black Bob
09-24-2012, 12:20 PM
All I am saying is that shit doesn't happen in 2003. Our o-line was nasty and no one would have provoked them.

Brock
09-24-2012, 12:23 PM
All I am saying is that shit doesn't happen in 2003. Our o-line was nasty and no one would have provoked them.

Yeah, players didn't dare take cheap shots on Priest Holmes. ROFL

Black Bob
09-24-2012, 12:30 PM
Yeah, players didn't dare take cheap shots on Priest Holmes. ROFL

Yeah they did. Then we proceeded to run all over their asses. That's the point dumbass. Teams who provoked that offense paid for it.

Brock
09-24-2012, 12:31 PM
Yeah they did. Then we proceeded to run all over their asses. That's the point dumbass. Teams who provoked that offense paid for it.

Right, the Chiefs weren't dominant running the football until somebody took a cheap shot.

My god, you are an idiot.

Saul Good
09-24-2012, 12:34 PM
Right, the Chiefs weren't dominant running the football until somebody took a cheap shot.

My god, you are an idiot.

That was all because Joe Horn banged Roaf's wife.

QuikSsurfer
09-24-2012, 12:35 PM
That was all because Joe Horn banged Roaf's wife.

ROFL

Black Bob
09-24-2012, 12:36 PM
Right, the Chiefs weren't dominant running the football until somebody took a cheap shot.

My god, you are an idiot.

That's not what I said. That's what you said.

You are really pretty stupid and you do that sort of thing more than anyone.

Also, Judas Priest sucks and I do mean literally. In fact, this picture below is what I think of every time you post something. Remember the Blue Oyster Club in Police Academy?

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-kjWMBDVnBHE/TqmiFcs1kWI/AAAAAAAAM8I/VMUDJZj9pis/s1600/blue-oyster.jpg

QuikSsurfer
09-24-2012, 12:38 PM
Exactly, if our players weren't such pussies, that shit probably doesn't happen. That was a cheap shot but that's going to happen in the NFL. However, it happens less to the tough teams.

This league needs more scummy-ass players. Like Finnegan - setting the defensive tone by ripping Andre's helmet off and then fucking...... ewww

http://nextround.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/johnson-finnegan.gif

Black Bob
09-24-2012, 12:41 PM
This league needs more scummy-ass players. Like Finnegan - setting the defensive tone by ripping Andre's helmet off and then ****ing...... ewww

http://nextround.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/johnson-finnegan.gif

Hey, he locked him down and took him out of the game right? I'm not saying I condone it but, he got in Johnson's head. Taking Johnson out of the game was probably worth a public ass beating to Finnegan.

QuikSsurfer
09-24-2012, 12:47 PM
Hey, he locked him down and took him out of the game right? I'm not saying I condone it but, he got in Johnson's head. Taking Johnson out of the game was probably worth a public ass beating to Finnegan.

huh? Johnson had 9 catches and TD in that game. Fight happened in the 4th quarter when Texans were up 17-0

edit: I agree that the ejection was worth the public punishment of Finnegan.

Black Bob
09-24-2012, 12:47 PM
huh? Johnson had 9 catches and TD in that game. Fight happened in the 4th quarter when Texans were up 17-0

He could have had more. ROFL

Brock
09-24-2012, 12:48 PM
huh? Johnson had 9 catches and TD in that game. Fight happened in the 4th quarter when Texans were up 17-0

edit: I agree that the ejection was worth the public punishment of Finnegan.

Yep. That fight happened because Finnegan was being schooled all day and wanted to get thrown out.

Black Bob
09-24-2012, 12:54 PM
Yep. That fight happened because Finnegan was being schooled all day and wanted to get thrown out.

:thailor:

No, Johnson ripped his helmet off and that's what started it. Finnegan got the best of him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBT6MygnKKw

Also, what happened the next time they played each other later in the year? The Titans beat their ass.

I guess I see the value in it. I like the fights.

Brock
09-24-2012, 12:55 PM
:thailor:

No, Johnson ripped his helmet off and that's what started it. Finnegan got the best of him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBT6MygnKKw

Also, what happened the next time they played each other later in the year? The Titans beat their ass.

Got the best of him? Sure, if being bent over like a shotgun is getting the best of someone.

QuikSsurfer
09-24-2012, 12:58 PM
:thailor:

No, Johnson ripped his helmet off and that's what started it. Finnegan got the best of him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBT6MygnKKw

Also, what happened the next time they played each other later in the year? The Titans beat their ass.

I guess I see the value in it. I like the fights.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5860086

Finnegan set it off by pushing up Johnson's face mask at the line of scrimmage. Johnson ripped off Finnegan's helmet and landed at least two punches to Finnegan's head and neck. Finnegan tore off Johnson's helmet before players and referees intervened.

"He kept doing little things and I told him: 'Just because you're frustrated, you need to stop what you're doing,'" Johnson said. "I guess he thought it was funny."

And I like fighting too, in hockey.

Black Bob
09-24-2012, 12:58 PM
Got the best of him? Sure, if being bent over like a shotgun is getting the best of someone.

He got the the best WR in the NFL kicked out of the game.

Sassy Squatch
09-24-2012, 12:59 PM
:thailor:

No, Johnson ripped his helmet off and that's what started it. Finnegan got the best of him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBT6MygnKKw

Also, what happened the next time they played each other later in the year? The Titans beat their ass.

I guess I see the value in it. I like the fights.
LOLOLOLOLOL Finnegan was getting raped that game. Spin it all you want but Johnson got the best of him that game.

Brock
09-24-2012, 01:02 PM
He got the the best WR in the NFL kicked out of the game.

Sure, after 3 and a half quarters of rape.

Black Bob
09-24-2012, 01:03 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5860086



And I like fighting too, in hockey.



I just posted the video. Finnegan had been pushing him like that all day. he got the best of him.

LOLOLOLOLOL Finnegan was getting raped that game. Spin it all you want but Johnson got the best of him that game.

He held him to 56 yards and a TD.... I think Finnegan did well against their only weapon in 2010.

Black Bob
09-24-2012, 01:04 PM
Sure, after 3 and a half quarters of rape.

Lies Blue Oyster man.... LIES....:thailor::thailor::thailor:

114 yards in two gamesagainst Johnson is getting raped?

I'm not suprised you enjoy a softer game of football.

Brock
09-24-2012, 01:07 PM
He held him to 56 yards and a TD.... I think Finnegan did well against their only weapon in 2010.

And lost the game 20-0. That's great leadership, man. /blackboob

I don't know what blue oyster man means.

listopencil
09-24-2012, 01:07 PM
1) It doesn't really fall into the "late hit" category. It was very close to the release of the ball, and Shaub has a very quick release.

2) It was, however, illegal because he led with his head. He should have kept his head up.

3) To me he was obviously going for one of those punishing hits on the QB to get into his head. Call it dirty if you will but it is something that good defenders do to create impact in every single game. As MagicHef pointed out, the other team did it to Manning previously in the very same game.

4) Mays' hit on Moeki was perfectly legal. It doesn't make him a dirty player and it didn't deserve a flag or a fine. I hated seeing him staggering around like that, because it's a dangerous spot for someone to be in, but your boy got lit up because he wasn't paying attention.

Saul Good
09-24-2012, 01:11 PM
I just posted the video. Finnegan had been pushing him like that all day. he got the best of him.



He held him to 56 yards and a TD.... I think Finnegan did well against their only weapon in 2010.

Their only weapon? Funny...I thought Arian Foster won the NFL rushing title that year.

Black Bob
09-24-2012, 01:12 PM
And lost the game 20-0. That's great leadership, man. /blackboob

I don't know what blue oyster man means.

Here's a link. It makes me think of the guy from Judas Priest. He is gay and wears the same outfit as the guys in the Blue Oyster Bar.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlGclIZV5JQ

http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/500/3438811/Judas+Priest+band.jpg

Black Bob
09-24-2012, 01:14 PM
Their only weapon? Funny...I thought Arian Foster won the NFL rushing title that year.

I meant receiving weapon. :doh!:

Brock
09-24-2012, 01:19 PM
Here's a link. It makes me think of the guy from Judas Priest. He is gay and wears the same outfit as the guys in the Blue Oyster Bar.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlGclIZV5JQ

http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/500/3438811/Judas+Priest+band.jpg

I'm not that familiar with gay culture. If you are, that's okay. No judgements.

Black Bob
09-24-2012, 01:23 PM
I'm not that familiar with gay culture. If you are, that's okay. No judgements.

I am familiar and I was sure I had you pegged. :D

BWillie
09-24-2012, 01:30 PM
Part of football imo, or at least still should be

Brock
09-24-2012, 01:32 PM
Part of football imo, or at least still should be

It was part of football, until we started having former players turning up brain damaged. Then they decided maybe that shouldn't be part of the game.

notorious
09-24-2012, 01:35 PM
It was part of football, until we started having former players turning up brain damaged. Then they decided maybe that shouldn't be part of the game.

Being able to talk and dress yourself at the age of 50 is overated.

Black Bob
09-24-2012, 01:36 PM
It was part of football, until we started having former players turning up brain damaged. Then they decided maybe that shouldn't be part of the game.

It's still part of boxing, MMA, and hockey.

The problem is that the NFL recognized it as a problem.

If you want to play pro football, you could get hurt.

This is the kind of shit that is ruining this country. We are becoming more and more pussified by the minute imo.

Brock
09-24-2012, 01:37 PM
It's still part of boxing, MMA, and hockey.

The problem is that the NFL recognized it as a problem.

If you want to play pro football, you could get hurt.

This is the kind of shit that is ruining this country. We are becoming more and more pussified by the minute imo.

More sidewalk commando bravado.

Sassy Squatch
09-24-2012, 01:38 PM
It's still part of boxing, MMA, and hockey.

The problem is that the NFL recognized it as a problem.

If you want to play pro football, you could get hurt.

This is the kind of shit that is ruining this country. We are becoming more and more pussified by the minute imo.
Huge difference between being accidentally injured and receiving brain damage from a cheap shot to the head. You wanna light someone up, fine. No need to target the head.

Black Bob
09-24-2012, 01:40 PM
More sidewalk commando bravado.

Seriously, do you think China and Iran are worrying about concussions?

What about the US Army? Are they worry about concussions?

The players don't have to play the game. LOL

Brock
09-24-2012, 01:43 PM
Seriously, do you think China and Iran are worrying about concussions?

What about the US Army? Are they worry about concussions?

The players don't have to play the game. LOL

Yeah, the army should stop worrying about the high rate of suicides of their veterans, it's just a bunch of weaklings doing it after they've served in a combat zone. Another brave internet tough guy.

Black Bob
09-24-2012, 01:46 PM
Yeah, the army should stop worrying about the high rate of suicides of their veterans, it's just a bunch of weaklings doing it after they've served in a combat zone. Another brave internet tough guy.

Is it safe to say they aren't as worried about concussions as the NFL?

FAX
09-24-2012, 01:48 PM
Seriously, do you think China and Iran are worrying about concussions?

What about the US Army? Are they worry about concussions?

The players don't have to play the game. LOL

Jesus, man.

What the hell are you talking about?

FAX

Brock
09-24-2012, 01:48 PM
Is it safe to say they aren't as worried about concussions as the NFL?

Why would they be? On the list of things a soldier needs to worry about, concussions are somewhere between IEDs and ingrown toenails.

Black Bob
09-24-2012, 01:49 PM
Why would they be? On the list of things a soldier needs to worry about, concussions are somewhere between IEDs and ingrown toenails.

True that... and that's my point.

Sassy Squatch
09-24-2012, 01:51 PM
True that... and that's my point.
What IS your point?

The Franchise
09-24-2012, 01:52 PM
What IS your point?

He doesn't have one.

Black Bob
09-24-2012, 01:54 PM
What IS your point?

That in combat, guys get blown all over the place and bang their heads on all kinds of shit and the army doesn't care. They wear a helmet to protect their head just like NFL players.

FAX
09-24-2012, 01:54 PM
1) It doesn't really fall into the "late hit" category. It was very close to the release of the ball, and Shaub has a very quick release.

2) It was, however, illegal because he led with his head. He should have kept his head up.

3) To me he was obviously going for one of those punishing hits on the QB to get into his head. Call it dirty if you will but it is something that good defenders do to create impact in every single game. As MagicHef pointed out, the other team did it to Manning previously in the very same game.

4) Mays' hit on Moeki was perfectly legal. It doesn't make him a dirty player and it didn't deserve a flag or a fine. I hated seeing him staggering around like that, because it's a dangerous spot for someone to be in, but your boy got lit up because he wasn't paying attention.

Okie dokie. Will do.

Actually, I'm surprised at you Mr. listopencil. You are the last person I would imagine attempting to condone or put a positive spin on something like that. You always seem like such a thoughtful and intelligent person for a goat fan.

Some things in life are more important than football. Like .... life.

FAX

Black Bob
09-24-2012, 01:55 PM
Okie dokie. Will do.

Actually, I'm surprised at you Mr. listopencil. You are the last person I would imagine attempting to condone or put a positive spin on something like that. You always seem like such a thoughtful and intelligent person for a goat fan.

Some things in life are more important than football. Like .... life.

FAX

weren't you just saying something in another thread about "walking the walk" or "talking the talk?"

The Franchise
09-24-2012, 01:57 PM
That in combat, guys get blown all over the place and bang their heads on all kinds of shit and the army doesn't care. They wear a helmet to protect their head just like NFL players.

:spock:

Please tell me that you weren't in the military.

seclark
09-24-2012, 01:57 PM
That in combat, guys get blown all over the place and bang their heads on all kinds of shit and the army doesn't care. They wear a helmet to protect their head just like NFL players.

wtf?
sec

Black Bob
09-24-2012, 02:01 PM
:spock:

Please tell me that you weren't in the military.

No, I was not.

There are all kinds of jobs that cause people to get concussions. That's the point. I bet at least half a million people got concussions today.

Brock
09-24-2012, 02:02 PM
I bet at least half a million people got concussions today.

ROFL

MagicHef
09-24-2012, 02:03 PM
No, I was not.

There are all kinds of jobs that cause people to get concussions. That's the point. I bet at least half a million people got concussions today.

Well, every person reading this thread just did.

DaFace
09-24-2012, 02:04 PM
That in combat, guys get blown all over the place and bang their heads on all kinds of shit and the army doesn't care. They wear a helmet to protect their head just like NFL players.

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Black Bob
09-24-2012, 02:04 PM
Well, every person reading this thread just did.

See? ROFL

QuikSsurfer
09-24-2012, 02:06 PM
Well, every person reading this thread just did.

:clap:

Black Bob
09-24-2012, 02:06 PM
http://stewover.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Billy-Madison-Buschemi.png

The Franchise
09-24-2012, 02:07 PM
No, I was not.

There are all kinds of jobs that cause people to get concussions. That's the point. I bet at least half a million people got concussions today.

How many of those jobs (outside of sports) require that each of their employees run at and hit each other?

Black Bob
09-24-2012, 02:08 PM
How many of those jobs (outside of sports) require that each of their employees run at and hit each other?

87 LOL

The Franchise
09-24-2012, 02:08 PM
87 LOL

List them.

FAX
09-24-2012, 02:08 PM
That in combat, guys get blown all over the place and bang their heads on all kinds of shit and the army doesn't care. They wear a helmet to protect their head just like NFL players.

I surrender.

All my attempts to take you seriously or infer that you are anything more than a drooling imbecile have failed. It is what it is, I guess. I had momentarily hoped that you were putting us on, but I cannot help but conclude that is not the case.

In my entire ChiefsPlanet career, there have been three posters whom I deemed so utterly cretinous and witlessly doltish that I simply could not fathom how they could function in society. I didn't think it was possible, but of those, you are, by far, the most fatuous, asinine, simple-minded plonk of them all. Your parents, the educational system, and genetic determination have all failed you. The human race devolves more each and every day you breathe.

For the sake of humanity, I urge you to seek professional help for you are in desperate need of it.

FAX

Saul Good
09-24-2012, 02:12 PM
Dude has 2,000 posts in two months of membership. It's like DarthCarlSatan all over again.

seclark
09-24-2012, 02:12 PM
I surrender.

All my attempts to take you seriously or infer that you are anything more than a drooling imbecile have failed. It is what it is, I guess. I had momentarily hoped that you were putting us on, but I cannot help but conclude that is not the case.

In my entire ChiefsPlanet career, there have been three posters whom I deemed so utterly cretinous and witlessly doltish that I simply could not fathom how they could function in society. I didn't think it was possible, but of those, you are, by far, the most fatuous, asinine, simple-minded plonk of them all. Your parents, the educational system, and genetic determination have all failed you. The human race devolves more each and every day you breathe.

For the sake of humanity, I urge you to seek professional help for you are in desperate need of it.

FAX

i was just going to tell him to go fuck himself.
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The Franchise
09-24-2012, 02:13 PM
When FAX can't take you seriously......it's over.

Rain Man
09-24-2012, 02:19 PM
How many of those jobs (outside of sports) require that each of their employees run at and hit each other?

My attorney made me stop that at my company back in about 2006. The world is way too litigious these days.

Black Bob
09-24-2012, 02:22 PM
So, 500,000 is way off. The truth is that about 96,500 people get concussions around the world each day.

Obviously, I am just fucking around here. I do believe the rules shouldn't have changed and it is far more about money than player safety. I like the rough stuff. It makes the game better imo. I love seeing Lambert throw Cliff Harris in the Superbowl. I love watching Atwater forearm Okoye in the head. Or, Sapp knocking the hell out of Clifton on the int. "Jacked Up" was way better than "C'mon man."

DomCasual
09-24-2012, 02:23 PM
The flag was the correct call. Mays slightly lowered his helmet before the hit. That makes it a pretty clear penalty.

That said, Mays is 5'11". Schaub is 6'5". If they were standing, face-to-face, Mays forehead would come right about to Schaub's chin. As it turned out, that was exactly how they ended up on the play.

I guess the point is that I don't believe it is as cut-and-dried dirty as some of you are making it. He should have adjusted the direction of his body so that his shoulder hit first. For a guy who's a full 6 inches shorter, I think that's easier said than done.

You can't base the play on how violent it appeared. Lots of legal plays appear violent. For a big fine or suspension, I believe you have to look at intent. I am an admitted homer; but I still don't believe there was an intent to injure.

Black Bob
09-24-2012, 02:30 PM
I surrender.

All my attempts to take you seriously or infer that you are anything more than a drooling imbecile have failed. It is what it is, I guess. I had momentarily hoped that you were putting us on, but I cannot help but conclude that is not the case.

In my entire ChiefsPlanet career, there have been three posters whom I deemed so utterly cretinous and witlessly doltish that I simply could not fathom how they could function in society. I didn't think it was possible, but of those, you are, by far, the most fatuous, asinine, simple-minded plonk of them all. Your parents, the educational system, and genetic determination have all failed you. The human race devolves more each and every day you breathe.

For the sake of humanity, I urge you to seek professional help for you are in desperate need of it.

FAX

ROFL You don't even know me. Also, I find you to be overrated as a nice guy and pretty much a dick. I'm sure people will tell me how much I suck and that's OK. You try and come off like a well spoken southerner but you seem full of shit to me. I regret apologizing to you.

TheGuardian
09-24-2012, 02:32 PM
I'm away for a few months and come back to find this BlackBob to be hated by all.

Who let him in the door? Jesus.

and fax is good people. if you can't get along with him, well.....

Black Bob
09-24-2012, 02:34 PM
I'm away for a few months and come back to find this BlackBob to be hated by all.

Who let him in the door? Jesus.

and fax is good people. if you can't get along with him, well.....

http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs6/f/2006/352/9/1/never_trust_a_hippy_by_o0poguemahone0o.jpg

DaFace
09-24-2012, 02:48 PM
ROFL You don't even know me. Also, I find you to be overrated as a nice guy and pretty much a dick. I'm sure people will tell me how much I suck and that's OK. You try and come off like a well spoken southerner but you seem full of shit to me. I regret apologizing to you.

Out of curiosity, are there members of this site who seem like they generally agree with your takes? Every time I step foot into a thread, it seems like you're defending some asinine position. Are you just trolling or something?

Black Bob
09-24-2012, 02:49 PM
Out of curiosity, are there members of this site who seem like they generally agree with your takes? Every time I step foot into a thread, it seems like you're defending some asinine position. Are you just trolling or something?

No, I'm not trolling. I am a Chiefs fan.

The Franchise
09-24-2012, 02:50 PM
No, I'm not trolling. I am just a retard.

FYP

seclark
09-24-2012, 02:50 PM
Out of curiosity, are there members of this site who seem like they generally agree with your takes? Every time I step foot into a thread, it seems like you're defending some asinine position. Are you just trolling or something?

shit troll...off it!
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ClevelandBronco
09-24-2012, 03:04 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5860086



And I like fighting too, in hockey.

I do as well, but hockey fights serve a different (and entirely necessary) purpose. Yeah, sometimes it's just two guys going off on each other, but the larger purpose is to protect the skill and finesse players who usually don't fight. You cheap shot one of those guys, you can pretty much count on having to fight that team's biggest, meanest guy. And the referees aren't going to bail your ass out of it.

QuikSsurfer
09-24-2012, 03:06 PM
Hockey fights serve a different (and entirely necessary) purpose. Yeah, sometimes it's just two guys going off on each other, but the larger purpose is to protect the skill and finesse players who usually don't fight. You cheap shot one of those guys, you can pretty much count on having to fight that team's biggest, meanest guy. And the referees aren't going to bail your ass out of it.

I understand that. What did I say to make you think otherwise?

ClevelandBronco
09-24-2012, 03:09 PM
I understand that. What did I say to make you think otherwise?

I wondered whether you'd get the idea that I was trying to take issue with you or tutor you. That was not my intention at all and I'm sorry that it came off that way.

My intention was really to draw the distinction for those others of us here who don't watch the greatest sport ever invented by man, hockey.

I was kind of attempting to build on your thought.

EDIT: I see that the subject was discussed a bit after your post. I probably should have read the whole thread before reacting hungrily as soon as I saw the word "hockey."

Red Dawg
09-24-2012, 03:13 PM
1) It doesn't really fall into the "late hit" category. It was very close to the release of the ball, and Shaub has a very quick release.

2) It was, however, illegal because he led with his head. He should have kept his head up.

3) To me he was obviously going for one of those punishing hits on the QB to get into his head. Call it dirty if you will but it is something that good defenders do to create impact in every single game. As MagicHef pointed out, the other team did it to Manning previously in the very same game.

4) Mays' hit on Moeki was perfectly legal. It doesn't make him a dirty player and it didn't deserve a flag or a fine. I hated seeing him staggering around like that, because it's a dangerous spot for someone to be in, but your boy got lit up because he wasn't paying attention.

Say whatever bullshit you want. Good defensers do it? BS! Brainless Dirty defenders do it. Good defenders make a hard clean hit, not try and knock a guy out for the game and the next game with a brain bruise. It was malicous as hell and his sorry ass should be gone for the next game. All you Donkeys would be screaming if Manning actually got clocked like that. His wasn't even close to that.

QuikSsurfer
09-24-2012, 03:21 PM
I wondered whether you'd get the idea that I was trying to take issue with you or tutor you. That was not my intention at all and I'm sorry that it came off that way.

My intention was really to draw the distinction for those others of us here who don't watch the greatest sport ever invented by man, hockey.

I was kind of attempting to build on your thought.

EDIT: I see that the subject was discussed a bit after your post. I probably should have read the whole thread before reacting hungrily as soon as I saw the word "hockey."

No worries. I'm actually a big hockey fan.

ShowtimeSBMVP
09-24-2012, 04:05 PM
Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter

NFL considering one-game suspension for Broncos LB Joe Mays, who landed helmet-to-helmet hit on Matt Schaub. At very least, a fine coming.

KCTitus
09-24-2012, 04:10 PM
Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter

NFL considering one-game suspension for Broncos LB Joe Mays, who landed helmet-to-helmet hit on Matt Schaub. At very least, a fine coming.

They should...leading with the crown of the helmet should draw a bigger penalty than one game. It was inexcusable.

TEX
09-24-2012, 04:23 PM
They should...leading with the crown of the helmet should draw a bigger penalty than one game. It was inexcusable.

Yep. Just imagine had Payton been hit like that...

Amnorix
09-24-2012, 04:26 PM
Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter

NFL considering one-game suspension for Broncos LB Joe Mays, who landed helmet-to-helmet hit on Matt Schaub. At very least, a fine coming.


Christ, they're "considering" a "one-game" suspension. I'm thinking the only question is how many games he should get. One seems bare minimum. I'd be leaning somewhere in the two to four range myself.

KCTitus
09-24-2012, 04:28 PM
Christ, they're "considering" a "one-game" suspension. I'm thinking the only question is how many games he should get. One seems bare minimum. I'd be leaning somewhere in the two to four range myself.

I was surprised that he wasnt ejected from the game. He should have been even thought I dont think that's a rule today. It was horrible....the worst of the worst of cheap shots on a QB.

mlyonsd
09-24-2012, 04:29 PM
Christ, they're "considering" a "one-game" suspension. I'm thinking the only question is how many games he should get. One seems bare minimum. I'd be leaning somewhere in the two to four range myself.Especially after Miller got the same penalty the play before. You don't see back to back roughing the passer's very often.

And some donk fans booed the calls.

KCTitus
09-24-2012, 04:33 PM
Especially after Miller got the same penalty the play before. You don't see back to back roughing the passer's very often.

And some donk fans booed the calls.

I know this is off topic, but did anyone else notice the crowd shots during the game...if it wasnt someone in an Elway jersey they were showing geriatric women in Tebow/Manning jerseys....I thought it was funny.

acesn8s
09-24-2012, 05:02 PM
This league needs more scummy-ass players. Like Finnegan - setting the defensive tone by ripping Andre's helmet off and then ****ing...... ewww

http://nextround.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/johnson-finnegan.gifThe replacement refs should have gained control of that game.

acesn8s
09-24-2012, 05:11 PM
How many of those jobs (outside of sports) require that each of their employees run at and hit each other?It's not a requirement. It is a perk.

acesn8s
09-24-2012, 05:12 PM
Dude has 2,000 posts in two months of membership. It's like DarthCarlSatan all over again.Is it a crazycoffee dupe?

BigMeatballDave
09-24-2012, 05:13 PM
And some donk fans booed the calls.Donkey fans are stupid.

acesn8s
09-24-2012, 05:17 PM
Yep. Just imagine had Payton been hit like that......by a Saints player.

listopencil
09-24-2012, 05:28 PM
Say whatever bullshit you want. Good defensers do it? BS! Brainless Dirty defenders do it. Good defenders make a hard clean hit, not try and knock a guy out for the game and the next game with a brain bruise. It was malicous as hell and his sorry ass should be gone for the next game. All you Donkeys would be screaming if Manning actually got clocked like that. His wasn't even close to that.

You need to sit down and actually watch grown men play professional football every once in a while.

listopencil
09-24-2012, 05:30 PM
Okie dokie. Will do.

Actually, I'm surprised at you Mr. listopencil. You are the last person I would imagine attempting to condone or put a positive spin on something like that. You always seem like such a thoughtful and intelligent person for a goat fan.

Some things in life are more important than football. Like .... life.

FAX


Positive spin? Not really. It is what it is.

Pasta Little Brioni
09-24-2012, 05:50 PM
He's a piece of crap along with that thug Dum

DonInDenver
09-24-2012, 05:55 PM
Mays was saying that "it" looked bad and he expects to hear from the league. He thought it was a timing issue, not a cheap shot. Heard this on the Radio out here in Denver this afternoon.

RealSNR
09-24-2012, 05:56 PM
You're right. I forgot about that one, mainly because that was back when he wasn't even a Bronco.

I guess that time he hit Trent Green in the head when Green was sliding was pretty dirty, too.

Ayers... Mays... I can't tell all these shitty Donks players apart

MagicHef
09-24-2012, 06:02 PM
Christ, they're "considering" a "one-game" suspension. I'm thinking the only question is how many games he should get. One seems bare minimum. I'd be leaning somewhere in the two to four range myself.

Really? I've seen helmet to helmet hits way worse than that that didn't result in suspensions. If he had gotten fined before for the same thing, then it would be understandable.

Maybe penalties are based more on bad press for the league than what actually happens on the field, though.

FAX
09-24-2012, 06:04 PM
Really? I've seen helmet to helmet hits way worse than that that didn't result in suspensions. If he had gotten fined before for the same thing, then it would be understandable.

Maybe penalties are based more on bad press for the league than what actually happens on the field, though.

This particular infraction is viewed as more egregious by the league since it was a quarterback and he lost a portion of a head appendage. It's called the Mike Tyson rule.

FAX

Bwana
09-24-2012, 06:06 PM
This particular infraction is viewed as more egregious by the league since it was a quarterback and he lost a portion of a head appendage. It's called the Mike Tyson rule.

FAX

LMAO

Black Bob
09-24-2012, 06:08 PM
Really? I've seen helmet to helmet hits way worse than that that didn't result in suspensions. If he had gotten fined before for the same thing, then it would be understandable.

Maybe penalties are based more on bad press for the league than what actually happens on the field, though.

Probably...

Good post and I agree. The whole safety thing is about money and perception.

Brock
09-24-2012, 06:11 PM
Really? I've seen helmet to helmet hits way worse than that that didn't result in suspensions. If he had gotten fined before for the same thing, then it would be understandable.

Maybe penalties are based more on bad press for the league than what actually happens on the field, though.

Maybe it has something to do with a recent change in how the league views helmet to helmet hits. I think it was in all the papers.

SAUTO
09-24-2012, 06:13 PM
I surrender.

All my attempts to take you seriously or infer that you are anything more than a drooling imbecile have failed. It is what it is, I guess. I had momentarily hoped that you were putting us on, but I cannot help but conclude that is not the case.

In my entire ChiefsPlanet career, there have been three posters whom I deemed so utterly cretinous and witlessly doltish that I simply could not fathom how they could function in society. I didn't think it was possible, but of those, you are, by far, the most fatuous, asinine, simple-minded plonk of them all. Your parents, the educational system, and genetic determination have all failed you. The human race devolves more each and every day you breathe.

For the sake of humanity, I urge you to seek professional help for you are in desperate need of it.

FAX I'm glad you wrote this.

I have been saying this about him for a while, and you have summed it up so much more eloquently.
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MagicHef
09-24-2012, 06:14 PM
Maybe it has something to do with a recent change in how the league views helmet to helmet hits. I think it was in all the papers.

Romo suffered a particularly nasty helmet to helmet hit, no penalty, no suspension looming. As previously noted, Manning also got a nice present of that type from the Texans (there was a penalty that play, but no one is discussing a suspension).

Of course, no body parts were left on the field in either of those situations.

Marcellus
09-24-2012, 06:15 PM
That in combat, guys get blown all over the place and bang their heads on all kinds of shit and the army doesn't care. They wear a helmet to protect their head just like NFL players.

You are one dumb son of a bitch.



http://www.kpbs.org/news/2012/sep/04/nfl-partners-us-army-combat-brain-injuries-video/


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NFL Partners With U.S. Army To Combat Brain Injuries (Video)


Tuesday, September 4, 2012
By Beth Ford Roth (http://www.kpbs.org/staff/beth-ford-roth/)

Video

Army and NFL partnership announcement


The National Football League (http://www.nfl.com/)'s regular season kicks off tomorrow with the New York Giants squaring off against the Dallas Cowboys. And in an effort to better deal with the problem of brain injuries among its players, the NFL is teaming up with the U.S. Army to better understand the brain damage both football tackles and battlefield combat can cause.
Last week Army Chief of Staff Gen. Ray Odierno and NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell signed a letter of agreement (http://www.defense.gov/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=117721) at the U.S. Military Academy - making official a partnership that has been several months in the making.
(I've posted video of the announcement, courtesy of The Pentagon Channel (http://www.pentagonchannel.mil/?pid=ng672No4WmewRhMKWrfJqZYv5bd0VLIN&player=GovDelivery), at right.)
As Home Post reported (http://homepost.kpbs.org/news/2012/jun/14/nfl-partners-military-tackle-brain-injury-awarenes/) earlier, Odierno and Goodell initially met in June at the Pentagon to discuss ways both organizations could share information on Traumatic Brain Injury (http://www.ninds.nih.gov/disorders/tbi/tbi.htm), and come up with ways to ease the effects of concussions on athletes and soldiers.
Both the NFL and the Army have a similar problem - the willingness of soldiers and players to pull themselves out of the action to get their head injuries checked out by a doctor. Army Maj. Gen. Stephen R. Lanza told the Washington Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/redskins/nfl-military-partner-to-discuss-brain-injuries/2012/06/13/gJQABoPFaV_story.html) in June:
“You hear them saying, ‘I’m not taking myself off the battlefield.’ Why? ‘Because the guy on my left and my right trust that I’ll be there.’ You heard the same thing from the players. ‘I’m not coming out of the game because I need to help my team.’”
It's estimated roughly 60 percent of former NFL players suffered concussions during games and practice. Nearly one-third of those players said they had suffered at least three concussions during their careers.
Traumatic brain injury is considered the signature wound of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, with an estimated (http://www.propublica.org/article/fact-sheet-traumatic-brain-injury) 115,000 to 400,000 U.S. service members suffering from TBI.

SAUTO
09-24-2012, 06:19 PM
Out of curiosity, are there members of this site who seem like they generally agree with your takes? Every time I step foot into a thread, it seems like you're defending some asinine position. Are you just trolling or something? he says there are MANY who rep him telling him how awesome he is and everyone is wrong.

I can't say that I have even seen more than one or two actually read his takes and try to defend him
But I was thinking a little while ago it would not be right to ban him.

Its fun to read any thread he had posted in
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manchambo
09-24-2012, 06:28 PM
No, I was not.

There are all kinds of jobs that cause people to get concussions. That's the point. I bet at least half a million people got concussions today.

After reading three of your posts (not including this one) I face palmed myself so hard that I was, indeed, slightly concussed. Have you accounted for the concussions that you yourself are causing in your undoubtedly thoroughly researched opinions on the epidemiology of concussion?

manchambo
09-24-2012, 06:31 PM
A few years ago I went to the mat, taking several of you mullet heads with me, in a thread about a Nalen cheap shot.

I will make no such defense here. A blatant cheap shot for which he should be suspended.

FAX
09-24-2012, 06:33 PM
Yep. The league simply cannot allow you to rip the ears off your opponents.

FAX

MagicHef
09-24-2012, 06:37 PM
A few years ago I went to the mat, taking several of you mullet heads with me, in a thread about a Nalen cheap shot.

I will make no such defense here. A blatant cheap shot for which he should be suspended.

I think the penalty was fair and a fine will be fair. However, I think a suspension for a guy on what I think was his first roughing the passer penalty is extreme.

QuikSsurfer
09-25-2012, 12:29 PM
Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter

NFL suspended Broncos LB Joe Mays for one game for the helmet-to-helmet hit he put on Texans QB Matt Schaub. Mays is appealing suspension.

FlaChief58
09-25-2012, 12:31 PM
Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter

NFL suspended Broncos LB Joe Mays for one game for the helmet-to-helmet hit he put on Texans QB Matt Schaub. Mays is appealing suspension.

Knowshit suicide alert!

warrior
09-25-2012, 12:32 PM
Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter

NFL suspended Broncos LB Joe Mays for one game for the helmet-to-helmet hit he put on Texans QB Matt Schaub. Mays is appealing suspension.

Seems fair :D

Quesadilla Joe
09-25-2012, 12:33 PM
Denver's Joe Mays will appeal his 1-game suspension for a hit to Matt Schaub according to a source close to the situation... Mays has been fined only once before, and will likely bring up the # of times James Harrison was fined before his suspension. Stay tuned https://twitter.com/JasonLaCanfora/status/250662948660469760

Non story. Mays will win his appeal. Nothing to see here.

MagicHef
09-25-2012, 12:37 PM
Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter

NFL suspended Broncos LB Joe Mays for one game for the helmet-to-helmet hit he put on Texans QB Matt Schaub. Mays is appealing suspension.

Is it safe for me to assume Connor Barwin will also be suspended for one game?

saphojunkie
09-25-2012, 12:42 PM
https://twitter.com/JasonLaCanfora/status/250662948660469760

Non story. Mays will win his appeal. Nothing to see here.

You're a fucking moron. Did you know?

DaFace
09-25-2012, 12:57 PM
Is it safe for me to assume Connor Barwin will also be suspended for one game?

I'm sorry, but your inner homer is clearly showing if you think that was anywhere close to the same.

mikey23545
09-25-2012, 01:00 PM
I'm sorry, but your inner homer vagina is clearly showing if you think that was anywhere close to the same.


FYP.

Frazod
09-25-2012, 01:01 PM
https://twitter.com/JasonLaCanfora/status/250662948660469760

Non story. Mays will win his appeal. Nothing to see here.

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTTZdjHsPL87D6xUNsZO1tB2wyd23r-s2XeZry_pcOBxYO5oaILjg

MagicHef
09-25-2012, 01:04 PM
I'm sorry, but your inner homer is clearly showing if you think that was anywhere close to the same.

Why?

DaFace
09-25-2012, 01:08 PM
Why?

If you're going to say that that play should be a suspension, then Von Miller should be suspended too. Those two were both good roughing the passer calls. They Mays hit could've ended Schaub's season.

TLO
09-25-2012, 01:11 PM
Del Rio puttin' out the bounties...

He's swinging his ax again.

MagicHef
09-25-2012, 01:13 PM
If you're going to say that that play should be a suspension, then Von Miller should be suspended too. Those two were both good roughing the passer calls. They Mays hit could've ended Schaub's season.

How could that have possibly ended his season? Schwab was only hurt from his helmet coming off, cutting his ear.

MagicHef
09-25-2012, 01:15 PM
If you're going to say that that play should be a suspension, then Von Miller should be suspended too. Those two were both good roughing the passer calls. They Mays hit could've ended Schaub's season.

Also, both Mays and Barwin had helmet to helmet hits. Von didn't. It is quite reasonable to equate the first two but not the third.

Iowanian
09-25-2012, 01:15 PM
How do you know that Mays is a dirty player?

The Bronco symbol on his helmet.

BWillie
09-25-2012, 01:18 PM
The flag was the correct call. Mays slightly lowered his helmet before the hit. That makes it a pretty clear penalty.

That said, Mays is 5'11". Schaub is 6'5". If they were standing, face-to-face, Mays forehead would come right about to Schaub's chin. As it turned out, that was exactly how they ended up on the play.

I guess the point is that I don't believe it is as cut-and-dried dirty as some of you are making it. He should have adjusted the direction of his body so that his shoulder hit first. For a guy who's a full 6 inches shorter, I think that's easier said than done.

You can't base the play on how violent it appeared. Lots of legal plays appear violent. For a big fine or suspension, I believe you have to look at intent. I am an admitted homer; but I still don't believe there was an intent to injure.

This is a very good post. I think, more often than not, the defensive player is not intentionally trying to injure or hurt someone. It's an awkward game out there. People fall awkwardly, people are tackled awkwardly. When you are moving 1000 mph, stuff like this is going to happen all the time and not just because they are playing "dirty".

DaFace
09-25-2012, 01:19 PM
Also, both Mays and Barwin had helmet to helmet hits. Von didn't. It is quite reasonable to equate the first two but not the third.

If helmet-to-helmet hits mattered anymore, you might have a point.

MagicHef
09-25-2012, 01:23 PM
If helmet-to-helmet hits mattered anymore, you might have a point.

?

DaFace
09-25-2012, 01:24 PM
?

Helmet-to-helmet hasn't been the only type of roughing the passer penalty that is grounds for suspension for years.

MagicHef
09-25-2012, 01:26 PM
Helmet-to-helmet hasn't been the only type of roughing the passer penalty that is grounds for suspension for years.

True, but it is considered a more vicious hit than the one Von did. To act like helmet to helmet isn't looked upon differently is pretty silly.

Caseyguyrr
09-25-2012, 01:26 PM
How do you know that Mays is a dirty player?

The Bronco symbol on his helmet.

best all day

Saul Good
09-25-2012, 01:38 PM
he says there are MANY who rep him telling him how awesome he is and everyone is wrong.

I can't say that I have even seen more than one or two actually read his takes and try to defend him
But I was thinking a little while ago it would not be right to ban him.

Its fun to read any thread he had posted in
Posted via Mobile Device

I'm usually the one railing against bannings, but there are a couple of new posters who are doing everything they can to make every thread on this board unreadable. These are the posters who deserve bannings, not people like hootie who stirs the pot but actually brings (brought) a lot to the board as well.

whoman69
09-25-2012, 03:23 PM
I hope we don't go back to the days where the defenders are afraid of tackling the QB because of excessive penalties.

FAX
09-25-2012, 04:30 PM
I'm usually the one railing against bannings, but there are a couple of new posters who are doing everything they can to make every thread on this board unreadable. These are the posters who deserve bannings, not people like hootie who stirs the pot but actually brings (brought) a lot to the board as well.

I could not agree more.

Free Mr. Hootie!!

FAX

Pasta Little Brioni
09-25-2012, 04:32 PM
I could not agree more.

Free Mr. Hootie!!

FAX

He'll pee on his neighbor in honor of the great FAX.

vailpass
09-25-2012, 04:35 PM
Blowfish thinks the Moeaki slobberknocker was a cheap shot? GTFO. Maybe you should take up soccer.

acesn8s
09-26-2012, 05:48 AM
Yep. The league simply cannot allow you to rip the ears off your opponents.

FAXAhhh, but FAX :sulk:

LOCOChief
09-26-2012, 06:12 AM
[QUOTE=Cassel>Manning;8945030

dumbass.

notorious
09-26-2012, 08:12 AM
I will be completely honest: These type of hard hits are what pulled me toward the NFL when I was a kid. I don't like the illegal hits anymore, but when this stuff was allowed I loved it.


With that said, fuck that piece of shit.

ShowtimeSBMVP
09-27-2012, 01:27 PM
Lindsay Jones ‏@PostBroncos

Joe Mays suspension upheld, John Fox said

vailpass
09-27-2012, 01:50 PM
Mays is the type of player people bitch about until they get one on their team.

FlaChief58
09-27-2012, 01:52 PM
Mays is the type of player people bitch about until they get one on their team.

Yeah so, FUCK HIM!

Rausch
09-27-2012, 02:10 PM
:#

vailpass
09-27-2012, 02:12 PM
Too bad. Would have liked to see Smokin' Joe unload on Carson Palmer this week.

Quesadilla Joe
09-27-2012, 02:25 PM
Mays will be a huge loss against Oakland. We gotta start fast against Oakland or McFadden could have a huge day.

CoMoChief
09-27-2012, 03:39 PM
Mays will be a huge loss against Oakland. We gotta start fast against Oakland or McFadden could have a huge day.

Also have to make sure Cpt. Duckwhobbler doesn't throw anymore picks.

listopencil
11-08-2014, 11:40 PM
Mays is the type of player people bitch about until they get one on their team.


You don't say?

RealSNR
11-08-2014, 11:44 PM
You don't say?

He's still a cheapshot artist, and I hope he's gotten that bullshit out of his system when he was a Donk. I don't want those kinds of assholes playing for my team.

Iconic
11-08-2014, 11:45 PM
I personally still don't like him. Poor mans Brandon Spikes but WITH the douchiness.

DaneMcCloud
11-08-2014, 11:47 PM
He's still a cheapshot artist, and I hope he's gotten that bullshit out of his system when he was a Donk. I don't want those kinds of assholes playing for my team.

Agreed

KCrockaholic
11-09-2014, 12:29 AM
You don't say?

He's still a POS. If he costs us an unsportsmanlike conduct penalty this season I'll be livid. He's a cheap shot, dirty player. With that said, I hope he can help the team and contribute, and if that means laying a "clean" lick on somebody then I'm all for it. I was actually pretty pissed when we signed him because of his past. But I saw things I liked out of him in pre season.

OldSchool
11-09-2014, 12:34 AM
He's still a POS. If he costs us an unsportsmanlike conduct penalty this season I'll be livid. He's a cheap shot, dirty player. With that said, I hope he can help the team and contribute, and if that means laying a "clean" lick on somebody then I'm all for it. I was actually pretty pissed when we signed him because of his past. But I saw things I liked out of him in pre season.

You have all said the same thing about Vickerson. He has been a welcome addition to the rotation.

KCrockaholic
11-09-2014, 12:36 AM
You have all said the same thing about Vickerson. He has been a welcome addition to the rotation.

I didn't have a problem with the Vickerson addition. I liked it quite a bit actually. I just had a problem with Joe Mays.

listopencil
11-09-2014, 12:41 AM
You have all said the same thing about Vickerson. He has been a welcome addition to the rotation.

I was sad to see Vickerson go. He was an impact player for the Broncos. The FO made the decision to go younger at the position, and I understand that, but we let a good player at an important position walk away.

KCrockaholic
11-09-2014, 12:45 AM
I was sad to see Vickerson go. He was an impact player for the Broncos. The FO made the decision to go younger at the position, and I understand that, but we let a good player at an important position walk away.

Go younger when these 3-4 years have/are all about winning a SB? It's supposed to be all-in time.

TimBone
11-09-2014, 12:50 AM
I was sad to see Vickerson go. He was an impact player for the Broncos. The FO made the decision to go younger at the position, and I understand that, but we let a good player at an important position walk away.
If I recall correctly, he was hurting the Broncos at unfortunate times with stupid penalties. Can't have that when they are trying to make a SB run.

listopencil
11-09-2014, 01:03 AM
Go younger when these 3-4 years have/are all about winning a SB? It's supposed to be all-in time.

It's a common misconception on this site that the Broncos are selling out their future to win now. They aren't.


If I recall correctly, he was hurting the Broncos at unfortunate times with stupid penalties. Can't have that when they are trying to make a SB run.

That's true. He had a few of those.

RealSNR
11-09-2014, 08:21 AM
It's a common misconception on this site that the Broncos are selling out their future to win now. They aren't.




That's true. He had a few of those.

They're dead in the fucking water as soon as Peyton retires.

Hope you're ready for the Brian Griese years again. Because that's what it's going to be.

Gonzo
11-09-2014, 08:36 AM
He's like an enforcer in hockey. Fuck it, let him bloody up Peyton's ear a little bit. That'll get his attention.

Reerun_KC
11-09-2014, 08:42 AM
I love the hypocrisy of Chiefsplanet

ILChief
11-09-2014, 08:51 AM
They're dead in the fucking water as soon as Peyton retires.

Hope you're ready for the Brian Griese years again. Because that's what it's going to be.

Fox will get canned the year after Fivehead leaves.

BigMeatballDave
11-09-2014, 09:27 AM
He's still a cheapshot artist, and I hope he's gotten that bullshit out of his system when he was a Donk. I don't want those kinds of assholes playing for my team.

You wouldn't want Suh?

Wallcrawler
11-09-2014, 09:55 AM
You wouldn't want Suh?

No dude, and a lot of people wouldn't.

Who honestly wants to sit and watch a guy who does the lowest, dirtiest shit imaginable to other players?

Not good enough to lay the big hit cleanly, so you go ahead and do it late. Wow. Big talent. Guys that do this shit need to be on a 3 strikes rule. If its clearly intentional, like the Ankle Torqueing by Burfict a few weeks back, that's a strike. 3 strikes and your ass is blacklisted.

Dirty players are the fucking worst. I wasn't thrilled with the Mays or the Vickerson pickups because of it.

They haven't done anything like Burfict did, or the Haynesworth forhead stomp, but they've laid some dirty fucking hits. Its fucking bullshit. I don't want it happening to Chiefs players, and I don't want Chiefs players doing it to their opponents.

Anyone that thinks that kind of shit is entertaining, or a "bonus" for your team needs their fucking head examined.

chiefzilla1501
11-09-2014, 09:58 AM
I generally don't like dirty players. Then again, when was the last time the Chiefs had anybody on their defense that had a mean streak or attitude? Haven't had one really since Sean Smith was grabbing players' nuts. That story would have pissed me off if I wasn't a Chiefs' fan. But I remember thinking the story was hilarious.

BigMeatballDave
11-09-2014, 10:39 AM
No dude, and a lot of people wouldn't.

Who honestly wants to sit and watch a guy who does the lowest, dirtiest shit imaginable to other players?

Not good enough to lay the big hit cleanly, so you go ahead and do it late. Wow. Big talent. Guys that do this shit need to be on a 3 strikes rule. If its clearly intentional, like the Ankle Torqueing by Burfict a few weeks back, that's a strike. 3 strikes and your ass is blacklisted.

Dirty players are the fucking worst. I wasn't thrilled with the Mays or the Vickerson pickups because of it.

They haven't done anything like Burfict did, or the Haynesworth forhead stomp, but they've laid some dirty fucking hits. Its fucking bullshit. I don't want it happening to Chiefs players, and I don't want Chiefs players doing it to their opponents.

Anyone that thinks that kind of shit is entertaining, or a "bonus" for your team needs their fucking head examined.You're on meth if you wouldn't want Suh.

Wallcrawler
11-09-2014, 10:42 AM
I generally don't like dirty players. Then again, when was the last time the Chiefs had anybody on their defense that had a mean streak or attitude? Haven't had one really since Sean Smith was grabbing players' nuts. That story would have pissed me off if I wasn't a Chiefs' fan. But I remember thinking the story was hilarious.

Bullshit. You act like we have a team of fucking Ned Flanders out there on defense.

Houston has a nasty streak a mile wide. He simply lays hits down between the whistles.

Mean streak, attitude, intimidation, this is NOT synonymous with going outside the rules and being a cheap shotting piece of dogshit. Chiefs defense has leaders all over that field. Hali, Houston, Poe, all have mean streaks.

You think a guy with a "Ned Flanders" disposition is going to rack up 12 sacks in 8 games despite being doubled and sometimes tripled?

No. Try again.

chiefzilla1501
11-09-2014, 10:59 AM
Bullshit. You act like we have a team of ****ing Ned Flanders out there on defense.

Houston has a nasty streak a mile wide. He simply lays hits down between the whistles.

Mean streak, attitude, intimidation, this is NOT synonymous with going outside the rules and being a cheap shotting piece of dogshit. Chiefs defense has leaders all over that field. Hali, Houston, Poe, all have mean streaks.

You think a guy with a "Ned Flanders" disposition is going to rack up 12 sacks in 8 games despite being doubled and sometimes tripled?

No. Try again.

I agree with you on cheap shotting vs. mean streak.

I disagree with you on the second part. I don't want to build a defense around mean streak guys. Trust me. I like the defensive core we have. We've got gutsy players who work hard, play intense, and are very high energy. Take DJ and Berry... no one would question these guys work hard. But vocal intimidators? Not really. Just saying that having 1 or 2 guys who hit a little harder, talk a lot of shit, and raise the energy level of the defense isn't a bad thing. Cheap shots especially at the wrong times... not something I want. Attitude? I don't think it hurts the Chiefs to add a little more swagger sometimes.

ModSocks
11-09-2014, 11:35 AM
Mays is the type of player people bitch about until they get one on their team.

LMAO

Money.