NFL and NFLRA reach an agreement (official)

[Quesadilla Joe]

NBC officiating consultant Jim Daopoulos tells PFT that a deal has been signed between NFL and NFLRA. https://twitter.com/ProFootballTalk/status/251148894992478208


As @mortreport is reporting, an agreement between NFL and NFLRA is at hand and both sides will work to have officials working this weekend.

https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/250988047699681280

[MagicHef]

Yay, now we can complain about real refs!

[Reerun_KC]

Yay, now we can complain about real refs!

Lets see how this plays out....

right now according to CP, the regulars are flawless...

[Brock]

LOL. They probably didn't have to say too much in that room.

[Valiant]

Hopefully everyone keeps up the critizing when mistakes are made at the same level, aannouncers, players and coaches.

[milkman]

Yay, now we can complain about real refs!

We will.

But it was clear that these replacements were bad for the game.

The real refs will fuck up their share of calls, as they always have, but these replacements were just horrid.

[Brock]

We will.

But it was clear that these replacements were bad for the game.

The real refs will fuck up their share of calls, as they always have, but these replacements were just horrid.

They were no worse than the regulars! /reerun

[Chief Gump]

I am guessing the NFL gave up more then they wanted to in this agreement.

[lcarus]

I knew they'd get a deal done after that MNF game.

[Reerun_KC]

They were no worse than the regulars! /reerun

According to you, they never make a mistake...

[Reerun_KC]

Thankfully this is over. Will be nice to get back to football and less about the officials.

[Deberg_1990]

Yay, now we can complain about real refs!

Watch, the media will play it up during the game saying stuff like " What a wonderfully officiated game" Like they can do no wrong.

[Molitoth]

The real officials suck too. Lets bring on technology and rid of human error.

[Reerun_KC]

Watch, the media will play it up during the game saying stuff like " What a wonderfully officiated game" Like they can do no wrong.

Yet, they havent called a game in 2+ months and some will expect them to be flawless...

The fuckers sucked the life out of games last year when then made it a "look at me" show. Now they will be held as the saviors of the NFL...

It will be priceless watching people defend them for blowing calls and games now.

[htismaqe]

Yet, they havent called a game in 2+ months and some will expect them to be flawless...

The ****ers sucked the life out of games last year when then made it a "look at me" show. Now they will be held as the saviors of the NFL...

It will be priceless watching people defend them for blowing calls and games now.

Who is going to defend them?

Again, thinking the replacement refs suck major ass does not equal thinking the regular refs are great.

[Bump]

Lets see how this plays out....

right now according to CP, the regulars are flawless...

no, but they are clearly better. There will still be fuck ups of epic proportions but it will just be less frequent.

[htismaqe]

no, but they are clearly better. There will still be **** ups of epic proportions but it will just be less frequent.

Bingo.

[ChiefRocka]

http://www.andrewrhoads.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/nfl_u_hochuli_400.jpg

[milkman]

Who is going to defend them?

Again, thinking the replacement refs suck major ass does not equal thinking the regular refs are great.

This might be the single of example of better than bad DOES equal good.

[Deberg_1990]

Yet, they havent called a game in 2+ months and some will expect them to be flawless...

The ****ers sucked the life out of games last year when then made it a "look at me" show. Now they will be held as the saviors of the NFL...

It will be priceless watching people defend them for blowing calls and games now.

Yea pretty much.



I agree that the regular refs are overall better, but id be willing to bet there were individual replacement guys better than some of the regular refs. But of course you never hear about refs doing a good job. Only when the negative stuff happens do you hear about refs.

[TrebMaxx]

Just saw Mort on ESPN and he said the deal is close, not done.

[Hammock Parties]

Godspeed, rep refs.

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[Mr. Laz]

Let the excuses about missed calls commence!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

[Mr. Laz]

http://www.andrewrhoads.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/nfl_u_hochuli_400.jpg
this worthless POS ... i don't want to ever see his ass again.

[htismaqe]

this worthless POS ... i don't want to ever see his ass again.

Why on Earth would you say that?

http://0.media.sportspickle.cvcdn.com/36/68/897541bb45788bb9d6e24eed2d954615.jpg

[Fish]

The real refs will be under hella pressure though. Any little thing they get wrong is going to be discussed at length....

[Hammock Parties]

LOL at a ref wearing under armor.

[TLO]

Good.

[Mr. Laz]

Don't want to see that makeup wearing, ghoul-looking ref either.

[L.A. Chieffan]

Every ref received their very own G5 to fly to each game

[Skyy God]

Ah, good to see Reerun is retarded as ever.

[notorious]

There will be a lot of rust.


They suck even when they are at 100%.

[boogblaster]

to the zebras .....

[vailpass]

We will.

But it was clear that these replacements were bad for the game.

The real refs will **** up their share of calls, as they always have, but these replacements were just horrid.

Yes. Not only in the playcalling but in their controlling of the players, coaches,and pace of the game. The replacements got steamrolled.

They did and will continue to make bad calls and missed calls but not on nearly the scale as the replacements.

[notorious]

Peyton Manning just has his shield re-instated.


Defensive holding and no-call holding on his line are about to become a common theme, again.

[mr. tegu]

At least with penalties within the game, the regular refs are relatively consistent.

The replacements were so inconsistent as to what was a penalty, such as with pass interference especially, it wasn't even funny.

[Mr. Laz]

Peyton Manning just has his shield re-instated.


Defensive holding and no-call holding on his line are about to become a common theme, again.
Brees,Rodgers and Peyton Manning will throw for a combined 2,100 yards this weekend.

[vailpass]

LOL at a ref wearing under armor.

As opposed to who?

Ed Hercules is steel wrapped in leather.

[vailpass]

Peyton Manning just has his shield re-instated.


Defensive holding and no-call holding on his line are about to become a common theme, again.

Thanks for looking on the bright side.

[Deberg_1990]

Brees,Rodgers and Peyton Manning will throw for a combined 2,100 yards this weekend.

Cassel will continue to be Cassel

[Rausch]

The real officials suck too. Lets bring on technology and rid of human error.

Can we do that at QB?...

[Rasputin]

Hope the real refs THANK the sucky refs for sucking & helping them get the deal done that way they are not out of jobs.

[Brock]

Hope the real refs THANK the sucky refs for sucking & helping them get the deal done that way they are not out of jobs.

The ones they should thank are the D1 college refs who wouldn't cross the line.

[Mr. Laz]

The ones they should thank are the D1 college refs who wouldn't cross the line.
True

I think the NFL might of just moved on completely if they got a group of solid D1 guys.

[Brock]

True

I think the NFL might of just moved on completely if they got a group of solid D1 guys.

Undoubtedly.

[vailpass]

The ones they should thank are the D1 college refs who wouldn't cross the line.

Fact. Though aren't D1 prohibited by contract from reffing NFL?

[notorious]

Thanks for looking on the bright side.

:D

[Brock]

Fact. Though aren't D1 prohibited by contract from reffing NFL?

I don't know. From what I read, a lot of those guys want to be in the NFL, they just didn't want to break in that way.

[Mr. Laz]

I don't know. From what I read, a lot of those guys want to be in the NFL, they just didn't want to break in that way.
NFL probably should of just went to the D1 officials and told them it was a permanent hire and saved themselves a ton of grief.

I don't know what kind of legal issues there would of been with basically just firing the entire NFLRA though.

[Megbert]

Oh good holding calls against the OL going against Hali will finally be called.

Oh wait. Never mind.

[milkman]

I don't know. From what I read, a lot of those guys want to be in the NFL, they just didn't want to break in that way.

Those guy knew that it would be a temporary gig, and that they would have been out of a job for this season as soon as the regulars refs signed a deal.

There was no benefit for them.

[Mr. Laz]

Cold water being dashed on reports of NFL-NFLRA agreement

Posted by Darin Gantt on September 26, 2012, 1:24 PM EDT
http://nbcprofootballtalk.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/350x-619.jpg?w=377AP
As if on cue, the brake-pumping has begun.

With the first wave of reports that a deal between the NFL and locked-out officials was close, next comes the wave of reports saying “Not so fast.”

Sports Illustrated’s Peter King just tweeted (https://twitter.com/SI_PeterKing/statuses/251006528725868544): “NFLRA negotiator Scott Green has notified officials that a deal is not imminent.”

That dovetails with the NFL Network’s Albert Breer’s report this morning, which acknowledged progress but noted substantial differences (http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000066367/article/nfl-nflra-come-to-agreement-on-issue-of-backup-officials) on the pension issue.
Perhaps the truest words of the last hour were uttered by NFLPA executive director DeMaurice Smith, who also took to Twitter.

“Having done this before (https://twitter.com/DeSmithNFLPA/statuses/251004655000240128), everyone needs to wait until the ink is dry.”

Again, all signs point toward this thing being finished, and perhaps soon. Our long, national nightmare is almost over.

But as we approach the finish line, the urge to mark territory runs strong in the media, and sometimes needs to be curbed.

[tecumseh]

Good news. It's unfortunate it had to turn on the MNF catastrophe in order for the greedy ass owners to see the light. Packers are a scapegoat for the owners avarice.
Anyway, friday night H.S. football is best for me. Go to a game.

[vailpass]

Good news. It's unfortunate it had to turn on the MNF catastrophe in order for the greedy ass owners to see the light. Packers are a scapegoat for the owners avarice.
Anyway, friday night H.S. football is best for me. Go to a game.

Greedy ass owners? This is why unions are being broken every day and will be a thing of the past soon.

[Reerun_KC]

Yea pretty much.



I agree that the regular refs are overall better, but id be willing to bet there were individual replacement guys better than some of the regular refs. But of course you never hear about refs doing a good job. Only when the negative stuff happens do you hear about refs.

The replacements where horrifying to say the least. But to think that its rainbows and unicorns when the come back is laughable at best.

There are going to be a lot of WTF moments in the next several weeks. Put the spin defense machine will be in overdrive when it happens.

[htismaqe]

The replacements where horrifying to say the least. But to think that its rainbows and unicorns when the come back is laughable at best.

NOBODY thinks this.

[ModSocks]

Hopefully everyone keeps up the critizing when mistakes are made at the same level, aannouncers, players and coaches.

This

[HemiEd]

We will.

But it was clear that these replacements were bad for the game.

The real refs will **** up their share of calls, as they always have, but these replacements were just horrid.

Only a drooling slobbering idiot could not see the difference and appreciate the real refs when they get back.

[notorious]

This is the equivalent of replacing Cassel with Orton.


Better? Yes. But it's still going to be a shitty result.

[Hammock Parties]

Exclusive interview with a replacement ref!

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[Mr. Laz]

Hopefully everyone keeps up the critizing when mistakes are made at the same level, aannouncers, players and coaches.
nope, for the next 2/3 weeks the announcers will use 'still training camp' or 'knocking off the rust' and the leagues own fault, for any mistakes that are made. After that they will go back to rationalizing and ignoring them like they did before.

It's what irritated me the most ... at best there was a double standard, if not an agenda, behind the treatment of the replacement refs that clearly escalated the problems.

Maybe it was just typical media wanting to report 'the dirt' but then again there are a ton of ex-players and pro union type guys reporting on stuff that would have a bias towards helping the NFLRA.

[Reerun_KC]

nope, for the next 2/3 weeks the announcers will use 'still training camp' or 'knocking off the rust' and the leagues own fault, for any mistakes that are made. After that they will go back to rationalizing and ignoring them like they did before.

It's what irritated me the most ... at best there was a double standard, if not an agenda, behind the treatment of the replacement refs that clearly escalated the problems.

Maybe it was just typical media wanting to report 'the dirt' but then again there are a ton of ex-players and pro union type guys reporting on stuff that would have a bias towards helping the NFLRA.

Holy Crap! :thumb::clap:

Well done Sir!!!

[A Salt Weapon]

Just fucking great, back to the same old teams getting the breaks to satisfy the big market media. Not sure what you guys are excited for about this, the Chiefs will not get any calls in their favor from now on. Every big play or 3rd down conversion for us will be coming back due to a late flag thrown nowhere near the play.
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[notorious]

I never understood why a lot of people love the regulars.

[milkman]

Holy Crap! :thumb::clap:

Well done Sir!!!

Seriously, who gives a rat's ass?

[notorious]

Just ****ing great, back to the same old teams getting the breaks to satisfy the big market media. Not sure what you guys are excited for about this, the Chiefs will not get any calls in their favor from now on. Every big play or 3rd down conversion for us will be coming back due to a late flag thrown nowhere near the play.
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It seems like this happens a lot.

[Mr. Laz]

I never understood why a lot of people love the regulars.dunno ... they sucked AND were bias.

at least the replacements just sucked


not to mention that the replacement refs also just 'let them play' which is what i thought everyone, including the players, wanted.

[Reerun_KC]

Seriously, who gives a rat's ass?

Apparently you do.. Otherwise you wouldnt be posting in this thread about it.

[HemiEd]

I want to see consistency and the best product possible. That wasn't coming with the officials I saw the first three weeks.

Is the system perfect? No, but it is one hell of a lot better than the comedic performance we saw from the replacement clowns.

They would have probably improved significantly by next season, but what do you do about games like Monday night until then?

I will still get pissed when I think the Chiefs get the short end of the stick though.

[vailpass]

Just ****ing great, back to the same old teams getting the breaks to satisfy the big market media. Not sure what you guys are excited for about this, the Chiefs will not get any calls in their favor from now on. Every big play or 3rd down conversion for us will be coming back due to a late flag thrown nowhere near the play.
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:crybaby::crybaby::crybaby::crybaby:

[BigMeatballDave]

I never understood why a lot of people love the regulars.

Have you watched ANY games this season?

The real officials aren't great. But, they are human. Mistakes are made.

But the replacements were an abomination. They made incorrect calls. They missed calls. They didn't know the rules.

[vailpass]

Have you watched ANY games this season?

The real officials aren't great. But, they are human. Mistakes are made.

But the replacements were an abomination. They made incorrect calls. They missed calls. They didn't know the rules.

Yep. And the players and coaches have zero respect for them. Things are getting out of control. Shanny Jr., Hoodie, Fox, Del Rio all fined because the replacements are so horrible they went after them.

[BigMeatballDave]

nope, for the next 2/3 weeks the announcers will use 'still training camp' or 'knocking off the rust' and the leagues own fault, for any mistakes that are made. After that they will go back to rationalizing and ignoring them like they did before.

It's what irritated me the most ... at best there was a double standard, if not an agenda, behind the treatment of the replacement refs that clearly escalated the problems.

Maybe it was just typical media wanting to report 'the dirt' but then again there are a ton of ex-players and pro union type guys reporting on stuff that would have a bias towards helping the NFLRA.

LMAO I never knew a liberal could hate unions so much.

[BigMeatballDave]

Reerun would be thrilled if all the officials were white.

:)

[-King-]

Lets see how this plays out....

right now according to CP, the regulars are flawless...
Who has said that?

No one on this forum is more prone to rhetoric than you. It's amazing.
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[Hog's Gone Fishin]

Not Good ! Routt hasn't had a penalty all year.

[Titty Meat]

ProFootballTalk ‏@ProFootballTalk
Per NBC officiating consultant Jim Daopoulos, roughly 20 locked-out officials may not be able to pass a physical http://wp.me/p14QSB-5z2V



ROFL

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

ProFootballTalk ‏@ProFootballTalk

Per NBC officiating consultant Jim Daopoulos, roughly 20 locked-out officials may not be able to pass a physical http://wp.me/p14QSB-5z2V

[Reerun_KC]

Reerun would be thrilled if all the officials were white.

:)

:LOL: You racist bastard....

[Titty Meat]

ProFootballTalk ‏@ProFootballTalk

Per NBC officiating consultant Jim Daopoulos, roughly 20 locked-out officials may not be able to pass a physical http://wp.me/p14QSB-5z2V

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[Chief Roundup]

The regular refs missed some calls absolutely. The replacement refs were making bad enough calls that it was bringing the integrity of the game into question. HUGE difference there.
The regular refs were/are bias. The replacements would become biased in a matter of time. Keep in mind this is the "Manning Football League", "New England Patriots Football League" or "Brady Football League". Whatever you want to call it. They will protect the future profitability of this league.

[Titty Meat]

One thing that has been great about the replacement refs is that they don't call offensive pass interference. Baldwin/Bowe are at an advantage it's really too bad they didn't exploit it more those first 3 games.

[vailpass]

"refs are bias"

2nd or 3rd time I've seen this in this post.

"biased". It is pronounced 'biased"

Christ almighty.

[vailpass]

One thing that has been great about the replacement refs is that they don't call offensive pass interference. Baldwin/Bowe are at an advantage it's really too bad they didn't exploit it more those first 3 games.

So they could be wide open when Cassell couldn't get it to them?

[Titty Meat]

So they could be wide open when Cassell couldn't get it to them?

Sam Cassell hasn't played in the NBA for a few years.

[KCUnited]

The replacement ref days are bias, fellas.

[vailpass]

Sam Cassell hasn't played in the NBA for a few years.

And he'd still be a better option for you at QB.

[Reerun_KC]

Who has said that?

No one on this forum is more prone to rhetoric than you. It's amazing.
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[BigMeatballDave]

LMAO

Reerun and Laz are having a dumbassery competition in this thread.

[-King-]

I just want to see ONE post saying the regulars are flawless. Just one.
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[Reerun_KC]

LMAO

Reerun and Laz are having a dumbassery competition in this thread.

You remember that time that Vinney scored with a few seconds left in a game by placing the ball 1 foot from the goal line?

Jets get a 32-31 victory over Seattle.

That was dumbassery for sure.

[Reerun_KC]

I just want to see ONE post saying the regulars are flawless. Just one.
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Here is one post that says "the regulars are flawless"...

How much more evidence do you want?

[BigMeatballDave]

You remember that time that Vinney scored with a few seconds left in a game by placing the ball 1 foot from the goal line?

Jets get a 32-31 victory over Seattle.

That was dumbassery for sure.

Yep. Horrible call.

There was also no replay that season.

[Titty Meat]

You remember that time that Vinney scored with a few seconds left in a game by placing the ball 1 foot from the goal line?

Jets get a 32-31 victory over Seattle.

That was dumbassery for sure.

Which calls you think the replacements would have gotten right than the regular ones wouldn't have?

I can tell you many that the regulars would get right that the replacements wouldn't.

FFS we've already had the same number of mess ups in 4 games than all of last year.

I've never seen a game with regular refs where players could call their own penalties. This is exactly what happened during that Denver/Atlanta game.

[milkman]

Apparently you do.. Otherwise you wouldnt be posting in this thread about it.

My post was directed at the stupidity of you and Laz talking about the media spin on things when the regular refs return.

And as is the norm for you, you were too stupid to follow your own fucking conversation.

Fucking idiot.

[Reerun_KC]

My post was directed at the stupidity of you and Laz talking about the media spin on things when the regular refs return.

And as is the norm for you, you were too stupid to follow your own ****ing conversation.

****ing idiot.

Someone needs his depends changed... Cranky ass old man...

[Reerun_KC]

My post was directed at the stupidity of you and Laz talking about the media spin on things when the regular refs return.

And as is the norm for you, you were too stupid to follow your own ****ing conversation.

****ing idiot.

IF you think this will not happen. You are dumber than you protray yourself on this message board.

[milkman]

Someone needs his depends changed... Cranky ass old man...

Same old deflection.

[Reerun_KC]

Same old deflection.

Same old bullshit out of you... nothing new...

[Chiefs Pantalones]

ProFootballTalk ‏@ProFootballTalk
Per NBC officiating consultant Jim Daopoulos, roughly 20 locked-out officials may not be able to pass a physical http://wp.me/p14QSB-5z2V



ROFL

Geez. That's why we need young, in shape officials. Not these fat ass old bastards.

[milkman]

IF you think this will not happen. You are dumber than you protray yourself on this message board.

God damn it, you stupid fucking, dirt eating shit stain, where the fuck did I say it won't happen.

I asked who give's a rat's ass when it does?

It doesn't matter one fucking iota what the fuck kind of spin the media puts on it.

Not a single fucking bit.

Fucking dipshit.

[Reerun_KC]

Geez. That's why we need young, in shape officials. Not these fat ass old bastards.

This I would agree.

They really need an overhaul. There are some bad officials out there.

If they want to protect the integerity of the game with the better regular officials, wouldnt you think they would want to put a quality product on the field as well?

[HemiEd]

I don't understand the Ed Hochuli hate, I like the guy in spite of that one screw up that he owned up to.

[Reerun_KC]

God damn it, you stupid ****ing, dirt eating shit stain, where the **** did I say it won't happen.

I asked who give's a rat's ass when it does?

It doesn't matter one ****ing iota what the **** kind of spin the media puts on it.

Not a single ****ing bit.

****ing dipshit.

:LOL:

Meltdown from the old guys...

I will bring it to your attention the moment it happens so you can worry about it.

[Reerun_KC]

I don't understand the Ed Hochuli hate, I like the guy in spite of that one screw up that he owned up to.

He seems to throw some flags, just to get more TV time...

[ptlyon]

I don't understand the Ed Hochuli hate, I like the guy in spite of that one screw up that he owned up to.

He sucks, thats why.

[lcarus]

Don't want to see that makeup wearing, ghoul-looking ref either.

Or the gay black one

[milkman]

I don't understand the Ed Hochuli hate, I like the guy in spite of that one screw up that he owned up to.

Hochuli and his crew have had a couple of major screwups, but the thing that irritates the hell out of me about him is the way they'll call a thousand meaningless holds on plays 100 yards away from the game action that have no impact on the play, while failing to ever call takedowns on O-Lineman who are about to get raped by pass rushers.

[Reerun_KC]

Hochuli and his crew have had a couple of major screwups, but the thing that irritates the hell out of me about him is the way they'll call a thousand meaningless holds on plays 100 yards away from the game action that have no impact on the play, while failing to ever call takedowns on O-Lineman who are about to get raped by pass rushers.

This.

Ed needs to flex on national TV...

[milkman]

:LOL:

Meltdown from the old guys...

I will bring it to your attention the moment it happens so you can worry about it.

I just get animated to make certain that anyone reading can see the sheer stupidity of your posts that I am pointing out.

[BigMeatballDave]

I don't understand the Ed Hochuli hate, I like the guy in spite of that one screw up that he owned up to.

If you were a Charger fan, you would. :)

That was an EPIC failure. Not as bad as Monday night, though.

But still bad.

He did admit his mistake.

[MahiMike]

Dang it! I was just filling out my application...

[Reerun_KC]

I just get animated to make certain that anyone reading can see the sheer stupidity of your posts that I am pointing out.

You can do what you want, makes me zero difference...

You talk a big game, but in reality you are just this.

http://gifs.gifbin.com/072010/1279705271_sleepy-kitten.gif

[Brock]

The regular guys are terrible!!! I can name like 5 screwups from the past 20 years!!!

[HemiEd]

Hochuli and his crew have had a couple of major screwups, but the thing that irritates the hell out of me about him is the way they'll call a thousand meaningless holds on plays 100 yards away from the game action that have no impact on the play, while failing to ever call takedowns on O-Lineman who are about to get raped by pass rushers.Is that confined to Ed Hochuli or the NFL officiating profession as a whole?
I totally get some people's complaints, and think they have a lot of validity, but are so much better than the replacements.
The holding on Tamba Hali has just become normal.


If you were a Charger fan, you would. :)

That was an EPIC failure. Not as bad as Monday night, though.

But still bad.

He did admit his mistake.I agree, no doubt about it. So we have a few of those issues, in a VERY large sample size.

[Marcellus]

As long as they keep the dude with the speech impediment. That shit was hilarious.

[HemiEd]

The regular guys are terrible!!! I can name like 5 screwups from the past 20 years!!!

Exactly.

[Reerun_KC]

The regular guys are terrible!!! I can name like 5 screwups from the past 20 years!!!Thats quite an accomplishment.

Care to share with the rest of the board?

[Tribal Warfare]

Aiello on NFLRA talks: “There is no such thing as close” (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/26/aiello-on-nflra-talks-there-is-no-such-thing-as-close/)

Posted by Mike Florio on September 26, 2012, 2:45 PM EDT

Earlier today, ESPN reported that a deal between the NFL and the NFL Referees Association is “at hand,” and that the real officials could be back to work this week.

Asked about the situation, NFL spokesman Greg Aiello quoted George Young, the late Giants G.M., with this admonition regarding negotiations: “There is no such thing as close.”

So there’s no deal until there’s a deal. And, as of right now, there’s no deal.

Confirming that there’s no deal is NBC officiating consultant Jim Daopoulos, who told PFT by phone this afternoon that NFLRA president Scott Green emailed the rank-and-file from the meeting room with the explanation that a deal has not been struck.

Even if/when a deal is reached among the negotiators, it will have to be approved by at least half of the 121 officials. As Daopoulos explained, the officials badly want to return to work, which could make them likely to accept whatever deal the NFLRA presents to them for a vote.

Still, questions remain. Dapoulos explained that, as to the reportedly tentative agreement to maintain a 21-official developmental squad that won’t be used during a given season to “bench” the regular officials, the officials want to know how the group will be assembled, what they will be doing during the season, and (perhaps most importantly) how they’ll be paid.

And while roughly 85 to 100 of the officials engage in a weekly conference call arranged by Ed Hochuli to discuss rule changes and other officiating issues in order to remain ready to work, Daopoulos explained that, as to roughly 20 of the locked-out officials, there’s real concern regarding their ability to pass a physical.

Then there’s the question of using replacements for a Thursday night game and regular officials for the balance of the weekend. Daopoulos said that the league likely will prefer an all-or-none approach, for reasons of competitive balance. if, for example, the Ravens lose to the Browns on a bad call from the replacements, the Ravens would be able to legitimately complain that, if they’d been scheduled to play on Sunday, they would have had the benefit of the real officials.

Regardless, no one will have the regular officials until a deal is done. And a deal isn’t done — and won’t be done — until it’s done.

[milkman]

Is that confined to Ed Hochuli or the NFL officiating profession as a whole?
I totally get some people's complaints, and think they have a lot of validity, but are so much better than the replacements.
The holding on Tamba Hali has just become normal.


I agree, no doubt about it. So we have a few of those issues, in a VERY large sample size.

Each of the regular crews have a certain part of the game that they seem focus.

Ed Hochuli and his crew call more non-critical holds away from the play than any other, by far.

None of the regular crews call obvious holds in the pass rush.

[HemiEd]

Thats quite an accomplishment.

Care to share with the rest of the board?
.

[Frazod]

No more holding calls against Denver's offensive line. Manning will be thrilled! :thumb:

[Reerun_KC]

.

Well then lets just enjoy this...

http://cdn2.holytaco.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/Models_pinky_finger.gif

[HemiEd]

Each of the regular crews have a certain part of the game that they seem focus.

Ed Hochuli and his crew call more non-critical holds away from the play than any other, by far.

None of the regular crews call obvious holds in the pass rush.

I haven't ever looked at it that way and will pay closer attention to the crews next time.

[vailpass]

He seems to throw some flags, just to get more TV time...

LMAO Jack legged slap dickery.

[Tribal Warfare]

Geez. That's why we need young, in shape officials. Not these fat ass old bastards.

they should go through the same PT tests that the NBA refs are required to do.

[DaFace]

Here is one post that says "the regulars are flawless"...

How much more evidence do you want?

You're just plain obnoxious these days.

[Baby Lee]

Are they instituting Adam Carolla's 'replay gimp official' suggestion?

[Micjones]

The NFL just added insult to Packer injury.
They could've waited another week.
Green Bay loses, the NFL stands behinds its replacements, and then promptly gets the deal done with the real refs? Ouch.

At least change the result to a tie.

[Amnorix]

I know the Calvin Johnson end zone catch was really controversial, so Lions fans (and many others) might disagree, but I think Steratore might be the best ref these days.

I think Hochuli is a bit ridiculous posing for the camera, but he's a solid ref.

[Richard_Cuckold]

the replacement refs crack me up I'm gonna miss them

[Dylan]

Awesome. This means Green Bay goes 13-0 the rest of the way.

























:evil:

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Awesome. This means Green Bay goes 13-0 the rest of the way.

























:evil:

Ed Herculus will make it happen.

[go bo]

Well then lets just enjoy this...

http://cdn2.holytaco.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/Models_pinky_finger.gif

oh.my.gawd. did you see the little finger on that gal?

[Mr. Laz]

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Wow. I didn't think there was any way the real refs would work Sunday, much less tomorrow night.

[Quesadilla Joe]

NBC officiating consultant Jim Daopoulos tells PFT that a deal has been signed between NFL and NFLRA. https://twitter.com/ProFootballTalk/status/251148894992478208

[Quesadilla Joe]

Text from someone in room about deal between NFL and NFLRA being signed: "Categorically untrue." Everyone hopes it's true soon enough. https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/251151210260881409

[-King-]

Wtf?

[FAX]

oh.my.gawd. did you see the little finger on that gal?

Damn. Good eye, Mr. go bowe. Good eye.

Another alien. Thank God her chick suit didn't fit perfectly or we would never have known.

FAX

[Chiefspants]

Tonight, Ed Hochuli kissed his muscles and said, "It's go time."

[Bane]

Can't wait till the first blown call!!!

[Chiefshrink]

I predicted it would be 2 days:thumb:

[DaFace]

It's official.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000066725/article/nfl-referees-union-closing-in-on-agreement-to-end-lockout?campaign=Twitter_writer_breer

NFL, referees' union agree to end lockout

By Albert Breer
Reporter, NFL.com and NFL Network
Published: Sept. 26, 2012 at 10:53 p.m. Updated: Sept. 27, 2012 at 12:05 a.m. 999+ Likes | 237 Comments

The NFL reached an agreement with the NFL Referees Association late Wednesday to end the referee lockout and the two sides are working on the paperwork now, according to a league source.

The league later confirmed the agreement.

A high-ranked referee told NFL.com and NFL Network's Jeff Darlington earlier that the officials are prepared to immediately begin work, noting he and many others have gotten access to all of the videos from the last three weeks of games that were distributed to the replacement officials.

While the referee said his colleagues would have liked to work a few preseason games, he says it isn't necessary to do their job.

Earlier Wednesday, the league and referees agreed to create a developmental program as a compromise to the NFL's demand for the addition of 21 officials to the current contingent of 121 NFLRA members, per an NFLRA source. The pool of money for the existing officials also will remain the same.

The developmental officials will be mentored by the existing crews and will be assigned to work with them during the week. The developmental officials will not be NFLRA members, will not work games and will not be eligible to be subbed in initially.

But eventually, as they improve and reach the standards to be NFL officials, they will be considered for NFLRA membership. As that happens, the financial pool for officials will be adjusted accordingly.

[007]

Yay, now we can complain about real refs!

:clap::clap::clap:

[Bane]

I predicted it would be 2 days:thumb:

Doesn't count unless you bump the thread in which you predicted it. :evil:

[Dylan]

Tom Brady breathes sigh of relief.

[L.A. Chieffan]

24k. That's it. 24 mother fucking k.

What a joke.