View Full Version : Football First Round of 2013 Hall of Fame Nominees Includes 12 Chiefs

Rain Man
09-29-2012, 09:56 PM
We dominate the selections, though only 1 of our guys played for the Chiefs his entire career.

Our nominees are:

Ron Jaworski (also played a little for the Eagles)
Priest Holmes
Will Shields
Albert Lewis
Morten Andersen (also spent a little time with the Saints)
Nick Lowery
Curley Culp (one of the two senior committee nominees)
Bud Carson
Marty Schottenheimer
Dick Vermeil
Bobby Beathard (also spent time with a few other teams)
Bill Polian (I think he was with the Colts for a while, too)

My thoughts on who SHOULD go in (no particular order):

Cris Carter - Obviously some people don't like him, but he should go in. He's way overdue.

Larry Allen - Another obvious one. This guy intimidated other players.

Joe Jacoby - I have no idea how Russ Grimm is in and Jacoby isn't. Jacoby was far and away the best player on that line.

Will Shields - More pro bowls than fingers, and I'm sure he has at least ten fingers.

Everson Walls - One of the three best cover corners I've ever seen, along with Deion and Albert Lewis.

Kevin Greene - I have no idea why he's not in yet. He was a great player.

Bud Adams - All of those old AFL owners should go in.

Second tier (no particular order):

Randall Cunningham - Dominant at his peak, simply dominant.

Stanley Morgan - One of the best deep threats of his era. Very underrated.

Rod Smith - I gotta admit, he was very productive for a long time in multiple ways. But yeah, I hate him.

Charles Haley - I wasn't a fan, but he got things done.

Karl Mecklenburg - As a Chiefs fan, I hated this guy. But that was mostly because he was blowing up our weak 80s teams. I really hate him.

Albert Lewis - I hate to put Everson Walls above him, but I have to be honest.

Morten Andersen - Not just a kicker. The kicker.

Steve Sabol - Who doesn't love NFL Films?

Now, that's who should go in. But it's not who WILL go in. The NFL likes offensive scoring and they like the guys on the media shows, so I think the people who will go in are:

Larry Allen - Deserves it, and he's a Cowboy. Any doubts?
Bud Adams - It's time and he's old.
Steve Sabol - Emotional pick, but that's fine.
Jerome Bettis - I like him, but he's overrated. Whatever.
Charles Haley - Probably deserves it, and has a remaining shadow of Joe Montana
Andre Reed - Overrated, but he'll get in.
Warren Sapp - In the media. He's automatically in.

Here's the full list: http://www.profootballhof.com/enshrinement/2012/9/27/2013-nominees-for-football-hall-of-fame/?campaign=Twitter_hofnominees

* - First-year nominee
^ - Past finalist

First-year eligible
Hall of Fame bylaws require that a player or a coach must have last been active at at least five full seasons before being eligible for consideration. There are 13 individuals among the 2013 modern-era nominees who are eligible for the first time.

Sam Adams, DT
Larry Allen, G
Morten Andersen, K
Priest Holmes, RB
John Lynch, S
Keenan McCardell, WR
Steve McNair, QB
Tom Nalen, C
Jonathan Ogden, T
Warren Sapp, DT
Michael Strahan, DE
Ted Washington, DT/NT
Bryant Young, DE

DREW BLEDSOE – 1993-2001 New England Patriots, 2002-04 Buffalo Bills, 2005-06 Dallas Cowboys
RANDALL CUNNINGHAM – 1985-1995 Philadelphia Eagles, 1997-99 Minnesota Vikings, 2000 Dallas Cowboys, 2001 Baltimore Ravens
RON JAWORSKI – 1974-76 Los Angeles Rams, 1977-1986 Philadelphia Eagles, 1988 Miami Dolphins, 1989 Kansas City Chiefs
NEIL LOMAX – 1981-88 St. Louis/Phoenix Cardinals
*STEVE McNAIR – 1995-2005 Houston/Tennessee Oilers/Titans, 2006-07 Baltimore Ravens
PHIL SIMMS – 1979-1993 New York Giants, injured-1982
DANNY WHITE (also P) – 1976-1988 Dallas Cowboys

JAMAL ANDERSON – 1994-2001 Atlanta Falcons
OTTIS ANDERSON – 1979-1986 St. Louis Cardinals, 1986-1992 New York Giants
TIKI BARBER – 1997-2006 New York Giants
^JEROME BETTIS – 1993-95 Los Angeles/St. Louis Rams, 1996-2005 Pittsburgh Steelers
LARRY CENTERS – 1990-98 Phoenix/Arizona Cardinals, 1999-2000 Washington Redskins, 2001-02 Buffalo Bills, 2003 New England Patriots
^ROGER CRAIG – 1983-1990 San Francisco 49ers, 1991 Los Angeles Raiders, 1992-93 Minnesota Vikings
STEPHEN DAVIS – 1996-2002 Washington Redskins, 2003-05 Carolina Panthers, 2006 St. Louis Rams
TERRELL DAVIS – 1995-2001 Denver Broncos
EDDIE GEORGE – 1996-2003 Houston/Tennessee Oilers/Titans, 2004 Dallas Cowboys
*PRIEST HOLMES – 1997-2000 Baltimore Ravens, 2001-05, 2007 Kansas City Chiefs
BRIAN MITCHELL (also PR/KR) – 1990-99 Washington Redskins, 2000-02 Philadelphia Eagles, 2003 New York Giants
GERALD RIGGS – 1982-88 Atlanta Falcons, 1989-1991 Washington Redskins
HERSCHEL WALKER – 1986-89 Dallas Cowboys, 1989-1991 Minnesota Vikings, 1992-94 Philadelphia Eagles, 1995 New York Giants, 1996-97 Dallas Cowboys
RICKY WATTERS – 1992-94 San Francisco 49ers, 1995-97 Philadelphia Eagles, 1998-2001 Seattle Seahawks

^TIM BROWN (also KR) – 1988-2003 Los Angeles/Oakland Raiders, 2004 Tampa Bay Buccaneers
^CRIS CARTER – 1987-89 Philadelphia Eagles, 1990-2001 Minnesota Vikings, 2002 Miami Dolphins
GARY CLARK – 1985-1992 Washington Redskins, 1993-94 Phoenix/Arizona Cardinals, 1995 Miami Dolphins
MARK CLAYTON – 1983-1992 Miami Dolphins, 1993 Green Bay Packers
HENRY ELLARD (also PR) – 1983-1993 Los Angeles Rams, 1994-98 Washington Redskins, 1998 New England Patriots
KEYSHAWN JOHNSON – 1996-99 New York Jets; 2000-03 Tampa Bay Buccaneers; 2004-05 Dallas Cowboys, 2006 Carolina Panthers
*KEENAN McCARDELL – 1991, 2007 Washington Redskins, 1992-95 Cleveland Browns, 1996-2001 Jacksonville Jaguars, 2002-03 Tampa Bay Buccaneers, 2004-06 San Diego Chargers
STANLEY MORGAN – 1977-1989 New England Patriots, 1990 Indianapolis Colts
^ANDRE REED – 1985-1999 Buffalo Bills, 2000 Washington Redskins
STERLING SHARPE – 1988-1994 Green Bay Packers
JIMMY SMITH – 1992 Dallas Cowboys, 1995-2005 Jacksonville Jaguars
ROD SMITH – 1995-2006 Denver Broncos

TODD CHRISTENSEN – 1979 New York Giants, 1979-1988 Oakland/Los Angeles Raiders
BEN COATES – 1991-99 New England Patriots, 2000 Baltimore Ravens

*LARRY ALLEN (G) – 1994-2005 Dallas Cowboys, 2006-07 San Francisco 49ers
TONY BOSELLI (T) – 1995-2001 Jacksonville Jaguars, 2002 Houston Texans (injured reserve)
LOMAS BROWN (T) – 1985-1995 Detroit Lions, 1996-98 Arizona Cardinals, 1999 Cleveland Browns, 2000-01 New York Giants, 2002 Tampa Bay Buccaneers
JIM COVERT (T) – 1983-1990 Chicago Bears
JOE FIELDS (C) – 1975-1987 New York Jets, 1988 New York Giants
BILL FRALIC (G/T) – 1985-1992 Atlanta Falcons, 1993 Detroit Lions
JEFF HARTINGS (G/C) – 1996-2000 Detroit Lions, 2001-2006 Pittsburgh Steelers
JAY HILGENBERG (C) – 1981-1991 Chicago Bears, 1992 Cleveland Browns, 1993 New Orleans Saints
CHRIS HINTON (G/T) – 1983-89 Baltimore/Indianapolis Colts, 1990-93 Atlanta Falcons, 1994-95 Minnesota Vikings
KENT HULL (C) – 1986-1996 Buffalo Bills
JOE JACOBY (T) – 1981-1993 Washington Redskins
MIKE KENN (T) – 1978-1994 Atlanta Falcons
JIM LACHEY (T) – 1985-87 San Diego Chargers, 1988 Los Angeles Raiders, 1988-1992, 1994-95 Washington Redskins
*TOM NALEN (C) – 1994-2007 Denver Broncos
*JONATHAN OGDEN (T) – 1996-2007 Baltimore Ravens
WILL SHIELDS (G) – 1993-2006 Kansas City Chiefs
ERIK WILLIAMS (T) – 1991-2000 Dallas Cowboys, 2001 Baltimore Ravens
STEVE WISNIEWSKI (G) – 1989-2001 Los Angeles/Oakland Raiders

*SAM ADAMS (DT) – 1994-99 Seattle Seahawks, 2000-01 Baltimore Ravens, 2002 Oakland Raiders, 2003-05 Buffalo Bills, 2006 Cincinnati Bengals, 2007 Denver Broncos
CARL HAIRSTON (DE/DT) – 1976-1983 Philadelphia Eagles, 1984-89 Cleveland Browns, 1990 Phoenix Cardinals
^CHARLES HALEY (DE/LB) – 1986-1991, 1999 San Francisco 49ers, 1992-96 Dallas Cowboys
ED “TOO TALL” JONES (DE) – 1974-78, 1980-89 Dallas Cowboys
JOE KLECKO (DE/DT/NT) – 1977-1987 New York Jets, 1988 Indianapolis Colts
DEXTER MANLEY (DE) – 1981-89 Washington Redskins, 1990 Phoenix Cardinals, 1991 Tampa Bay Buccaneers
CHARLES MANN (DE) – 1983-1993 Washington Redskins, 1994 San Francisco 49ers
*WARREN SAPP (DT) – 1995-2003 Tampa Bay Buccaneers, 2004-07 Oakland Raiders
FRED SMERLAS (NT) – 1979-1989 Buffalo Bills, 1990 San Francisco 49ers, 1991-92 New England Patriots
*MICHAEL STRAHAN (DE) – 1993-2007 New York Giants
*TED WASHINGTON (DT/NT) – 1991-93 San Francisco 49ers, 1994 Denver Broncos, 1995-2000 Buffalo Bills, 2001-02 Chicago Bears, 2003 New England Patriots, 2004-05 Oakland Raiders, 2006-07 Cleveland Browns
*BRYANT YOUNG (DE) – 1994-2007 San Francisco 49ers

CORNELIUS BENNETT – 1987-1995 Buffalo Bills, 1996-98 Atlanta Falcons, 1999-2000 Indianapolis Colts
^KEVIN GREENE (also DE) – 1985-1992 Los Angeles Rams, 1993-95 Pittsburgh Steelers, 1996, 1998-99 Carolina Panthers, 1997 San Francisco 49ers
KEN HARVEY – 1988-1993 Phoenix Cardinals, 1994-98 Washington Redskins
CLAY MATTHEWS – 1978-1993 Cleveland Browns, 1994-96 Atlanta Falcons
KARL MECKLENBURG – 1983-1994 Denver Broncos
SAM MILLS – 1986-1994 New Orleans Saints, 1995-97 Carolina Panthers
DARRYL TALLEY – 1983-1994 Buffalo Bills, 1995 Atlanta Falcons, 1996 Minnesota Vikings

ERIC ALLEN (CB) – 1988-1994 Philadelphia Eagles, 1995-97 New Orleans Saints, 1998-2001 Oakland Raiders
STEVE ATWATER (S) – 1989-1998 Denver Broncos, 1999 New York Jets
JOEY BROWNER (S) – 1983-1991 Minnesota Vikings, 1992 Tampa Bay Buccaneers
LEROY BUTLER (S) – 1990-2001 Green Bay Packers
NOLAN CROMWELL (S) – 1977-1987 Los Angeles Rams
ALBERT LEWIS (CB) – 1983-1993 Kansas City Chiefs, 1994-98 Los Angeles/Oakland Raiders
*JOHN LYNCH (S) – 1993-2003 Tampa Bay Buccaneers, 2004-07 Denver Broncos
DENNIS SMITH (S) – 1981-1994 Denver Broncos
TROY VINCENT (CB – 1992-95 Miami Dolphins, 1996-2003 Philadelphia Eagles, 2004-06 Buffalo Bills, 2006 Washington Redskins
EVERSON WALLS (CB) – 1981-89 Dallas Cowboys, 1990-92 New York Giants, 1992-93 Cleveland Browns
^AENEAS WILLIAMS (CB/S) – 1991-2000 Phoenix/Arizona Cardinals, 2001-04 St. Louis Rams
DARREN WOODSON (S) – 1992-2003 Dallas Cowboys

*MORTEN ANDERSEN (K) – 1982-1994 New Orleans Saints, 1995-2000, 2006-07 Atlanta Falcons, 2001 New York Giants, 2002-03 Kansas City Chiefs, 2004 Minnesota Vikings
GARY ANDERSON (K) – 1982-1994 Pittsburgh Steelers, 1995-96 Philadelphia Eagles, 1997 San Francisco 49ers, 1998-2002 Minnesota Vikings, 2003-04 Tennessee Titans
SEAN LANDETA (P) – 1985-1993 New York Giants, 1993-96, 2003-04 Los Angeles/St. Louis Rams, 1997 Tampa Bay Buccaneers, 1998 Green Bay Packers, 1999-2002, 2005 Philadelphia Eagles
NICK LOWERY (K) – 1978 New England Patriots, 1980-1993 Kansas City Chiefs, 1994-96 New York Jets

STEVE TASKER (also WR) – 1985-86 Houston Oilers, 1986-1997 Buffalo Bills

BILL ARNSPARGER – 1964-69 Baltimore Colts, 1970-73, 1976-1983 Miami Dolphins, 1974-76 New York Giants
DOUG BLEVINS – 1995-97, 1999 World League/NFL Europe, 1997-2003 Miami Dolphins
BUD CARSON – 1971-77 Pittsburgh Steelers, 1978-81, 1997 Los Angeles/St. Louis Rams, 1982 Baltimore Colts, 1983 Kansas City Chiefs, 1985-88 New York Jets, 1989-1990 Cleveland Browns, 1991-94 Philadelphia Eagles
^DON CORYELL – 1973-77 St. Louis Cardinals, 1978-1986 San Diego Chargers
BILL COWHER – 1992-2006 Pittsburgh Steelers
TOM FLORES – 1979-1987 Oakland/Los Angeles Raiders, 1992-94 Seattle Seahawks
JIMMY JOHNSON – 1989-1993 Dallas Cowboys, 1996-99 Miami Dolphins
CHUCK KNOX – 1973-77 Los Angeles Rams, 1978-1982 Buffalo Bills, 1983-1991 Seattle Seahawks, 1992-94 Los Angeles Rams
^BILL PARCELLS – 1983-1990 New York Giants, 1993-96 New England Patriots, 1997-99 New York Jets, 2003-06 Dallas Cowboys
BUDDY PARKER – 1949 Chicago Cardinals, 1951-56 Detroit Lions, 1957-1964 Pittsburgh Steelers
DAN REEVES – 1981-1992 Denver Broncos, 1993-96 New York Giants, 1997-2003 Atlanta Falcons
MARTY SCHOTTENHEIMER – 1984-88 Cleveland Browns, 1989-1998 Kansas City Chiefs, 2001 Washington Redskins, 2002-06 San Diego Chargers
CLARK SHAUGHNESSY – 1944-47 Washington Redskins, 1948-49 Los Angeles Rams, 1951-1962 Chicago Bears
DICK VERMEIL – 1976-1982 Philadelphia Eagles, 1997-99 St. Louis Rams, 2001-05 Kansas City Chiefs

K.S. “BUD” ADAMS, JR. (Founder/Owner) – 1960-Present Houston Oilers/Tennessee Oilers/Titans
GEORGE ANDERSON (Trainer) – 1960-1993 Oakland/Los Angeles Raiders
BOBBY BEATHARD (Admin.) – 1966-67 Kansas City Chiefs, 1968-1971 Atlanta Falcons, 1972-77 Miami Dolphins, 1978-1988 Washington Redskins, 1990-99 San Diego Chargers
GIL BRANDT (Admin.) – 1960-1988 Dallas Cowboys, 1995-present National Football League
C.O. BROCATO (Scout) – 1974-76, 1981-present Houston Oilers/Tennessee Oilers/Tennessee Titans
LEO CARLIN (Admin.) – 1960-Present Philadelphia Eagles
JACK KENT COOKE (Owner) – 1974-1997 Washington Redskins
OTHO DAVIS (Trainer) – 1971-72 Baltimore Colts, 1973-1995 Philadelphia Eagles
^ED DeBARTOLO, JR. (Owner) – 1979-2000 San Francisco 49ers
RON GIBBS (Official) – 1940-1962 National Football League
RALPH KOHL (Scout) – 1978-1992 Minnesota Vikings
EDDIE KOTAL (Admin.) – 1947-1961 Los Angeles Rams
ROBERT KRAFT (Owner) – 1994-Present New England Patriots
ART McNALLY (Official) – 1968-Present National Football League
^ART MODELL (Owner) – 1961-1995 Cleveland Browns, 1996-2011 Baltimore Ravens
BILL POLIAN (Admin.) – 1978-1982 Kansas City Chiefs, 1984-1992 Buffalo Bills, 1993-94 National Football League, 1995-97 Carolina Panthers, 1998-2011 Indianapolis Colts
ART ROONEY, JR. (Admin.) – 1961-Present Pittsburgh Steelers
STEVE SABOL (Contrib.) – 1964-2012 NFL Films
CARL STORCK (Owner/Coach/Admin.) – 1918-1930 Dayton Triangles, 1930-1941 National Football League
^PAUL TAGLIABUE (Commissioner) – 1989-2006 National Football League
BURL TOLER, SR. (Official) – 1965-1989 National Football League
JIM TUNNEY (Official) – 1960-1991 National Football League
RON WOLF (Admin.) – 1991-2001 Green Bay Packers
^GEORGE YOUNG (Admin.) – 1968-1974 Baltimore Colts, 1975-78 Miami Dolphins, 1979-1997 New York Giants, 1998-2001 National Football League

Tribal Warfare
09-29-2012, 10:02 PM
It would be a goddamn crime If Larry Allen gets in before Shields.

Rain Man
09-29-2012, 10:04 PM
It would be a goddamn crime If Larry Allen gets in before Shields.

Get ready for it. You love Will and I love Will and we all know he's the greatest guard ever, but Larry Allen is a Cowboy with rings and is going to step in line in front of him.

Psyko Tek
09-29-2012, 10:08 PM
i am thinking shields
gawd forgive me

Chief Roundup
09-29-2012, 10:13 PM
I figure Strahan will get it on the first time.

09-29-2012, 10:14 PM
Sabol is derservedly in from the first time.
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09-29-2012, 10:16 PM
Doesn't Sabol have to be dead for 5 years before he can get in?

Rain Man
09-29-2012, 10:18 PM
I think contributors to the game don't have to be out for five years. Ralph Wilson went in with DT, and he's still the owner of the Bills.

09-29-2012, 11:39 PM
I could have sworn Mecklenberg was already in the Hall

09-30-2012, 12:02 AM
It would be a goddamned shame if Parcells gets in before Flores. Not only was Flores once a Chief, he won two Super Bowls with two different QB's (before Parcells did it) and he was the first minority coach to win a Super Bowl.

Fucking Parcells is a media myth. Fuck that guy and his spawn.

09-30-2012, 12:11 AM
Shields is easily my favorite football player of all time.

09-30-2012, 12:13 AM
Doesn't Sabol have to be dead for 5 years before he can get in?

No. He wasn't a player or coach.

Psyko Tek
09-30-2012, 12:34 AM
sabol the nfl films guy?
put him in now

09-30-2012, 08:52 AM
I think the fact that Shields is a guard on a team that never made it to the SB or won one will hurt his chances for a while. Although he was dominant, guard is not that valued (remember the draft talk in regards to guards). I do think he will get in one day, but not for many years. If Cris Carter is still not in, there is no way Shields does. I do think Carter gets it this year as he is long overdue.

09-30-2012, 09:00 AM
And still no love for Otis Taylor!!!

09-30-2012, 09:00 AM
It seems like if you are on NFL Net-you get in.

09-30-2012, 09:01 AM
Fuck Rod Smith

09-30-2012, 09:07 AM
I saw on the Twitter that the Ring of Honor is coming back today. Wonder how that is going to be...

09-30-2012, 09:15 AM
Sabol is a no brainier IMO. His stuff changed the NFL forever. I was enthralled by his stuff for as long as I can remember.

09-30-2012, 09:56 AM
Cris Carter and Andre Reed should both have busts at the Hall of Good, which is on the next block over I think.

Larry Allen is just as deserving as Will Shields.

09-30-2012, 09:57 AM
Sabol is a no brainier IMO. His stuff changed the NFL forever. I was enthralled by his stuff for as long as I can remember.

Too soon dude.

Pasta Giant Meatball
09-30-2012, 10:23 AM
Neil Lomax, lol