I told you so...people are already buying it...

[htismaqe]

Just heard Petro say "if the Chiefs lose 13-0 but are +/- 0 in turnovers, Matt Cassel will have done his job."

14-18, 121 yards, no interceptions...they will declare Matt Cassel is "fine".

[gblowfish]

It's a quality loss.

[Buehler445]

:Lin:

[Deberg_1990]

Wow, reach for the stars Pioli.

[KCrockaholic]

Moral victory.

[L.A. Chieffan]

It's a team game

[Bane]

Fuck him.

[MIAdragon]

http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk287/mottlock/animated.gif

[jd1020]

So we aren't going to pass the ball once? Cool.

[The Franchise]

I still wouldn't be surprised if Cassel comes out of this game with a "mysterious" injury.

[In58men]

Your choice

[qabbaan]

QBs are just there to hand the ball off and throw dump offs and screens. You guys think they are there to lead a complete offense? To go win a game for the team?

Petro must be the ultimate shill if he thinks a QB whose offense is shut out did his job.

[Chest Rockwell]

Somebody needs the > bad ≠ good talk again.

[King_Chief_Fan]

ater watching the Rams play last night.....I may be forced to only care about them the rest of the season. Been a Chiefs fan only my entire life. Sounds like band wagoning for the Rams...I know, don't care. Sounds like abandoning the Chiefs, I know, don't care. I will care when Hunt and Pioli care

[Mr. Flopnuts]

I still wouldn't be surprised if Cassel comes out of this game with a "mysterious" injury.

Yep. It will seal Pioli's fate. Next year. It will be 2014 before we have any chance of seeing change. Queue up the Sorry pic.

[Dave Lane]

I still wouldn't be surprised if Cassel comes out of this game with a "mysterious" injury.

And it might be THIS mysterious.

[htismaqe]

Somebody needs the > bad ≠ good talk again.

That would be me. I trademarked it.

I love Mr. Dio but I guess it's time to put it back in my sig... :banghead:

[TEX]

ater watching the Rams play last night.....I may be forced to only care about them the rest of the season. Been a Chiefs fan only my entire life. Sounds like band wagoning for the Rams...I know, don't care. Sounds like abandoning the Chiefs, I know, don't care. I will care when Hunt and Pioli care

Good Young QB and a GOOD COACH...They're headed in the right direction.

[Buehler445]

Well, at least the good thing is that the probability of us holding the Ravens to 13 points is slim to none.

[Lonewolf Ed]

Cassel could have to leave the game with a hip bruise from repeatedly dropping to the turf in the fetal position as the Ravens defense swarms him.

[BossChief]

This is Pioli throwing the rest of his hand picked team under the bus through the media then.

I can't wait till these guys are gone.

[Chest Rockwell]

That would be me. I trademarked it.

I love Mr. Dio but I guess it's time to put it back in my sig... :banghead:


:thumb: That's why I brought it up.

Being a Chief's fan makes me understand what Phil Connors must have felt like...

https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS0aj9FO8NA2KYlzHmK4W1bpDeGTQKIeAULl72l0eHEB9umsBTU

[Dayze]

LMAO; Cassel going 14-18.

they do realize to acquire those numbers, he actually has to throw the ball.

[-King-]

Cool story bro.

[Buehler445]

LMAO; Cassel going 14-18.

they do realize to acquire those numbers, he actually has to throw the ball in a manner in which the receiver has an opportunity to CATCH THE FUCKING BALL Jesus fucking tapdancing Christ! Cassel couldn't hit the ocean if he fell out of a boat. Fire Pioli - Bench Cassel!.

FYP

[jd1020]

LMAO; Cassel going 14-18.

they do realize to acquire those numbers, he actually has to throw the ball.

They may start counting pitches to the RB as a completed pass.

[Beef Supreme]

"If Matt Cassel doesn't shit the bed, he will have done his job."

[redfan]

McLovin' said the Chiefs will win V the Ravens. He picked the Chiefs to beat GB last year. What does it mean? Not a damn thing. :shrug:

[Death2CasselFans]

Ravens are similar to the Falcons. They're transitioning from a conservative run team to a passing team.

Notice all these teams who want to win a superbowl are all transitioning to passing teams?

[htismaqe]

LMAO; Cassel going 14-18.

they do realize to acquire those numbers, he actually has to throw the ball.

Those are my numbers.

Realistically, he's not gonna throw the ball less than 15 times.

[htismaqe]

Now Petro is badgering his guest (I believe it's Bob Glauber) into declaring that Jeff Fisher is some kind of genius.

[Death2CasselFans]

If they're going to limit Cassel's numbers of throws, we will get blown out

Its better to turn ball over and throw downfield than dink and dunk in a shoot out type of game.

[ptlyon]

I wish I could be mediocre & paid 63 mil

[The Bad Guy]

Petro is such a fucking reject. If that's what he classifies as doing his job, then he needs to get the fuck out too.

[the Talking Can]

$60 mill for a franchise QB, and all we ask him to do is not poop his pants in public...

this franchise, and every asshole that defends even a tiny piece of it, can die in a flaming cosmos of aids...

[blaise]

Reminds me of the David Carr era in Houston. People trying to find any way to tell you he doesn't actually suck.

[Rasputin]

QBs are just there to hand the ball off and throw dump offs and screens. You guys think they are there to lead a complete offense? To go win a game for the team?

Petro must be the ultimate shill if he thinks a QB whose offense is shut out did his job.

Screens huh. Too risky you know what I mean. LMAO

[BoneKrusher]

Just heard Petro say "if the Chiefs lose 13-0 but are +/- 0 in turnovers, Matt Cassel will have done his job."

14-18, 121 yards, no interceptions...they will declare Matt Cassel is "fine".

that's like saying Yeah "Our QB sucks but not that bad".LMAO

[gblowfish]

I still wouldn't be surprised if Cassel comes out of this game with a "mysterious" injury.

You mean, like a Yeast Infection?

[Raiderhater]

You mean, like a Yeast Infection?

LMAO

[boogblaster]

the candy-wrapper magnet needs to go and take his 60 mill F'up with him .....

[bricks]

I can't see Matt Cassel going 14-18 passing w/ 0 int's. Not against a good defense like Baltimore. Are you kidding me?

Baltimore will get in his face and AT LEAST force a turnover or two. You know that's bound to happen. Come on guys.

And you know if the Chiefs fall behind 21-0, which is a great possibility, then the likelihood of turnovers will increase significantly if we have to rely on the passing game to try and get us back into the game.

Why is this guy mentioning Cassel going 14-18 w/ 0 int's is beyond me? Why are some even thinking of those type of stats when they don't reflect a realistic situation?

[FAX]

I can't see Matt Cassel going 14-18 passing w/ 0 int's. Not against a good defense like Baltimore. Are you kidding me?

Baltimore will get in his face and AT LEAST force a turnover or two. You know that's bound to happen. Come on guys.

And you know if the Chiefs fall behind 21-0, which is a great possibility, then the likelihood of turnovers will increase significantly if we have to rely on the passing game to try and get us back into the game.

Why is this guy mentioning Cassel going 14-18 w/ 0 int's is beyond me? Why are some even thinking of those type of stats when they don't reflect a realistic situation?

It is a tad confusing, Mr. bricks.

I think what everybody is trying to get at is that the expectations for Cassel are those of a "game manager" type quarterback. Those kinds of stats would be satisfactory if you didn't ask anything more from him.

It's about lowering expectations to the bare minimum and still call yourself a professional football player.

FAX

[bowener]

Based on the evidence from this season alone, Baltimore will be up 13-0 by the middle of the first quarter. Boos will fall like massive boulders of hail upon Cassel's fragile remains of a twig-like ego. Team doctors will have to drag him off the field in the fetal position, and force feed him klonopin. The end is nigh!

[htismaqe]

I can't see Matt Cassel going 14-18 passing w/ 0 int's. Not against a good defense like Baltimore. Are you kidding me?

Baltimore will get in his face and AT LEAST force a turnover or two. You know that's bound to happen. Come on guys.

And you know if the Chiefs fall behind 21-0, which is a great possibility, then the likelihood of turnovers will increase significantly if we have to rely on the passing game to try and get us back into the game.

Why is this guy mentioning Cassel going 14-18 w/ 0 int's is beyond me? Why are some even thinking of those type of stats when they don't reflect a realistic situation?

Those numbers are MINE. I'm the one that said I could see Cassel going 14-18 with 0 INTs.

He's had many, many games in his career where they've limited his passes and he's had that kind of stat line.

Of course, that all hinges on the defense keeping the game close.

Everybody is expecting a blowout. I'm not. I'm expecting the Chiefs to completely screw up their draft position.

[ModSocks]

Just heard Petro say "if the Chiefs lose 13-0 but are +/- 0 in turnovers, Matt Cassel will have done his job."

14-18, 121 yards, no interceptions...they will declare Matt Cassel is "fine".

How fucking pathetic.

Substandard QB play is the standard for Excellence in KC

[oldandslow]

Now Petro is badgering his guest (I believe it's Bob Glauber) into declaring that Jeff Fisher is some kind of genius.

No genius, but he's a damn site better than what we ended up with. I watched a Rams team last nite that looked like they at least knew what a football was.

Rams run a 4-3, drafted a couple of ends and are good to go...

We decide a 3-4 is the only thing in the world that will work, draft 15 zillion DL's and still can't hit the QB.

[DeezNutz]

Petro hates Cassel, so saying that he will have "done his job" is relative. The point being, the player sucks shit. Everyone knows this. Thus, "his job" is to mitigate how much his suck negatively (and exponentially) affects the rest of the team.

[htismaqe]

No genius, but he's a damn site better than what we ended up with. I watched a Rams team last nite that looked like they at least knew what a football was.

Rams run a 4-3, drafted a couple of ends and are good to go...

We decide a 3-4 is the only thing in the world that will work, draft 15 zillion DL's and still can't hit the QB.

Petro is a big fan of Martyball. He's coming around slowly to the modern NFL but he still has fits of mediocrity...

[htismaqe]

Petro hates Cassel, so saying that he will have "done his job" is relative. The point being, the player sucks shit. Everyone knows this. Thus, "his job" is to mitigate how much his suck negatively (and exponentially) affects the rest of the team.

He hates Cassel now. He spent a lot of time the past 2 seasons focusing on the offensive line. He always wants to draft a LT.

It has taken him some time to realize what the modern NFL is about but he still has relapses once in a while...

[oldandslow]

Petro is a big fan of Martyball. He's coming around slowly to the modern NFL but he still has fits of mediocrity...

I am a big fan of MartyDEFENSE. Haven't seen it since 3 or 4 years before Marty left.

I understand your offense argument, but I don't think they are mutually exclusive.

[DeezNutz]

It has taken him some time to realize what the modern NFL is about but he still has relapses once in a while...

LMAO.

No doubt. Kietzman has probably been the most vocal guy on 810 for a first-round QB. It reminds me of CP...three years ago.

[htismaqe]

I am a big fan of MartyDEFENSE. Haven't seen it since 3 or 4 years before Marty left.

I understand your offense argument, but I don't think they are mutually exclusive.

The thing is, shut down defenses don't really exist anymore.

The one thing Marty's defenses did was take the ball away. Honestly, that's what a team needs more than anything else.

Score lots of point and take the ball away. It won't matter how many yards you give up.

[oldandslow]

The thing is, shut down defenses don't really exist anymore.

The one thing Marty's defenses did was take the ball away. Honestly, that's what a team needs more than anything else.

Score lots of point and take the ball away. It won't matter how many yards you give up.

That's why I have no problems with picks like Berry (even if he doesn't work out). He may turn out to be a ball hawk yet. My problem is with the 3-4 as we currently run it. I would take a defense like the Rams any day of the week, because they get to the QB.

Again, I agree with your points about the QB and the offense.

[htismaqe]

That's why I have no problems with picks like Berry (even if he doesn't work out). He may turn out to be a ball hawk yet. My problem is with the 3-4 as we currently run it. I would take a defense like the Rams any day of the week, because they get to the QB.

Again, I agree with your points about the QB and the offense.

I heard somebody the other day talking about how sacks are completely overrated.

It's all about pressures because pressures force bad throws and bad throws result in turnovers.

Aggressive is the name of the game, on both sides of the ball. We're the opposite, on BOTH SIDES OF THE BALL.

:banghead:

[MotherfuckerJones]

I want the Defense to play awesome and show signs of life. I want Cassel to suck which he will so it keeps showing we need a real QB

[ptlyon]

I heard somebody the other day talking about how sacks are completely overrated.

It's all about pressures because pressures force bad throws and bad throws result in turnovers.

Aggressive is the name of the game, on both sides of the ball. We're the opposite, on BOTH SIDES OF THE BALL.

:banghead:

Was it DEB?

[htismaqe]

I want the Defense to play awesome and show signs of life. I want Cassel to suck which he will so it keeps showing we need a real QB

The defense playing awesome is precisely what I'm worried about.

If the defense plays it close the vest, and the running game has a bit of life, they can go to a shell in the passing game and make it close, if not win.

That's the last thing we need right now.

[Dave Lane]

I heard somebody the other day talking about how sacks are completely overrated.

It's all about pressures because pressures force bad throws and bad throws result in turnovers.

Aggressive is the name of the game, on both sides of the ball. We're the opposite, on BOTH SIDES OF THE BALL.

:banghead:

Amen brother. Amen.

Attack attack attack.

[Hammock Parties]

This D isn't gonna play well.

The Ravens LEAD the AFC in yards per play.

[007]

Just heard Petro say "if the Chiefs lose 13-0 but are +/- 0 in turnovers, Matt Cassel will have done his job."

14-18, 121 yards, no interceptions...they will declare Matt Cassel is "fine".

Man, talk about setting the bar a millimeter off the ground. JFC

[Hammock Parties]

Wrong.

Everywhere I turn people are done with Cassel.

The only thing that will bring them back is winning.

[gretnanefan]

we drive down from nebraska since 2001 it hurts to see my chiefs look so bad need to get into little clarks pocketbook

[ILChief]

I still wouldn't be surprised if Cassel comes out of this game with a "mysterious" injury.

I've thought that all week. I think he could end up on IR to save him the embarrassment of being benched

[BossChief]

I heard somebody the other day talking about how sacks are completely overrated.

It's all about pressures because pressures force bad throws and bad throws result in turnovers.

Aggressive is the name of the game, on both sides of the ball. We're the opposite, on BOTH SIDES OF THE BALL.

:banghead:

And the potential is there for them to do EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE.

I know you weren't here in 2009, but would you have been on board with what I was calling for:

Decosta for GM (Pioli was my second choice)
Kirk Ferentz for HC
Keep Chan Gailey as OC
Wade Phillips for DC (if he was fired in Dallas) or Jim Haslett if Wade kept his job.

I think we would have been sick nasty by now.