**** Official Cards @ Braves 'play in' ****

[Simply Red]

I figured there is enough interest in both teams from the posters on this board.

Good luck!


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[Simply Red]

I will say this - it's beautiful here in the dirty south. Great day for the ballgame.

[Simply Red]

National Anthem butchered!

[stonedstooge]

Do it for the Chipper!

[Marcellus]

Should be a great game.

[DaneMcCloud]

Wish I was at a bar at the beach soaking in the sun and both games...

[Simply Red]

Should be a great game.

Turner is brutal to play in during the daytime. I bet it'll be relatively 'high scoring.'

Yep should be fun.

[seclark]

Wish I was at a bar at the beach soaking in the sun and both games...

wish i was at a bar anywhere.
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[Simply Red]

wish i was at a bar anywhere.
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:LOL:

[Simply Red]

wish i was at a bar anywhere.
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As do i, but then i'd be PM'ing you all at 4AM again - or I'd get lost in my own town again. So yeah, I'll not be going to a bar to drink. ;)

[Chest Rockwell]

IN...stuck listening to it.

Sounds like it was an efficient first for both pitchers.

[stonedstooge]

Snowcone catch in the sun

[Chest Rockwell]

Snowcone catch in the sun

Cards radio crew is pretty impressed with it.

[tk13]

And Ross makes a difference already. With Medlen pitching the Cards may already be in trouble.

[whoman69]

I hate being at work when a game is on. At least one of our clients is a cable company.

[Chest Rockwell]

And Ross makes a difference already. With Medlen pitching the Cards may already be in trouble.

It's already seeming like one of those days where they just aren't going to get any breaks. And the Braves are making plays.

Medlen and what sounds like a generous strike zone; you may be right.

[Chest Rockwell]

Yeah, about that not getting any breaks...never mind.

[jd1020]

It's already seeming like one of those days where they just aren't going to get any breaks. And the Braves are making plays.

Medlen and what sounds like a generous strike zone; you may be right.

*Cough* no breaks *cough*

[Chest Rockwell]

*Cough* no breaks *cough*

Beat you.

[jd1020]

LMAOLMAOLMAOLMAO

Interference.

LMAOLMAOLMAOLMAO

[Chest Rockwell]

Oh, hello Messrs Momentum and Luck. Welcome to the visitor's dugout. Please make yourself comfortable.

[chefsos]

Oohh...this is gonna be a big deal. He was in the way for sure, though.

[jd1020]

Bunting with 1 out, runners on 1st and 3rd, with the pitcher on deck... GENIUS!

[chefsos]

Left side of that Braves' infield hasn't had a good day.

[Shogun]

Bunting with 1 out, runners on 1st and 3rd, with the pitcher on deck... GENIUS!

Ned?

[Chest Rockwell]

And here come the boos. A couple of runs and the crowd will be out of it.

Shummon-nah birds.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Win AND end Chipper's career :fire:

[Chest Rockwell]

Win AND end Chipper's career :fire:

How ironic would it be if he finalized his own retirement papers with that error.

Lotta innings left, but dear god that would suck for him.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

How ironic would it be if he finalized his own retirement papers with that error.

Lotta innings left, but dear god that would suck for him.

He's made millions and pounded thousands of Georgian vaginas....don't feel sorry for him one bit.

[Chest Rockwell]

He's made millions and pounded thousands of Georgian vaginas....don't feel sorry for him one bit.

I didn't say I felt sorry for him.

That was more me reveling in the Schadenfreude.


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[OnTheWarpath15]

That was a fucking rocket.

[lewdog]

Us Royals fans have no idea what it feels like to have a baseball playoff thread for our team.

:facepalm:

Our time!

[Chest Rockwell]

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[LiL stumppy]

Matty h!

[veist]

That Holliday guy is just so unclutch! lulz

[Frazod]

I'm still at work - probably a good thing. If this score holds up I may get shot in the face when I walk in the door. :D

[KC_Connection]

Ned?
Just normal gamecalling for Fredi Gonzalez.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Goddammit.

Why pull Freese if you were just going to bunt him over anyway?

Seems like every time we pull guys early for a defensive replacement, the game goes to extras and missing that bat kills us.

[Simply Red]

The Atlanta Braves may be the most overrated sporting franchise, it's them or the Cowboys. Not sure.... Knew we didn't have much of a chance. Color me 'seasoned' - since I'm a Chiefs fan.

[Simply Red]

lol

Nice throw Cassel.

[OnTheWarpath15]

lol

Nice throw Cassel.

LMAO

[Chest Rockwell]

Goddammit.

Why pull Freese if you were just going to bunt him over anyway?

Seems like every time we pull guys early for a defensive replacement, the game goes to extras and missing that bat kills us.

That's why, I guess.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

They simply can not lose as a Wild Card.

[Simply Red]

They simply can not lose as a Wild Card.

yeah - they're leaps and bounds better than the Braves when it matters.

[OnTheWarpath15]

yeah - they're leaps and bounds better than the braves when it matters.

They've done it before.

Look at how unflappable this team was in a championship run last year.

Meanwhile, the Braves were shitting their pants and missing the playoffs.

Experience is huge in elimination games.

[Frazod]

Is the score still 5-2?

[OnTheWarpath15]

Is the score still 5-2?

6-2.

[Simply Red]

The Braves had their time - they're now the Chiefs, let's face it.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Suck it Albert

[Simply Red]

6-2.

negative rep.

[Simply Red]

Suck it Albert

negative rep.

[OnTheWarpath15]

negative rep.

6-3?

[Simply Red]

lol - Chipper doesn't have it in him - this moment is too big for him.

[Simply Red]

No I'm just going to negative rep everyone in the thread not named bewbies or PR Capone; until the Braves finalize their gag-reflex. :LOL:

[Simply Red]

Good Christ.

[J Diddy]

Goddammit.

Why pull Freese if you were just going to bunt him over anyway?

Seems like every time we pull guys early for a defensive replacement, the game goes to extras and missing that bat kills us.

Can't yell at the Card dugout for that. It's because of some jackass fan sitting at buffalo wild wings

[Frazod]

Score update, please.

[KC_Connection]

Infield fly rule? WTF? That was in the outfield.

[SPchief]

How is that an infield fly rule?

[jd1020]

6-3 Bases loaded with 1 out for the Braves.

Nevermind... Umpires are paid by the Cardinals.

[chefsos]

WTF...infield fly rule in left field?

[Simply Red]

that's pure BS

[SPchief]

Utter bullshit

[kstater]

How the fuck can you call that an infield fly rule?

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

That's a BS call

[KC_Connection]

6-3 Bases loaded with 1 out for the Braves.
Nope. 2 outs on a terrible call.

[kstater]

That ball is 25 feet outside the dirt.

[SPchief]

Cards just got gifted an out

[Simply Red]

i'd hope even Cards' fans would admit that that was bullshit.

[pr_capone]

Horse shit call on the inflield fly rule. Absolute fucking horse shit.

[stonedstooge]

Jesus umps

[SPchief]

And the LEFT FIELD ump called it

[KC_Connection]

In what possible way could that be described as an infield fly?

[kstater]

Damn straight throw stuff on the field. Walk off the field if you're the braves.

[SPchief]

And Braves fans show no class

[pr_capone]

And Braves fans show no class

they should fly a banner or something

[chefsos]

So...what's the consensus on beer of choice in Atlanta?

[ArrowheadMagic]

LOL. How is that call made?

[KC_Connection]

What a complete fucking shitshow.

[Simply Red]

Way to go replacement UMPS - oh wait...

[tk13]

I'm pretty sure the ref from the Seahawks MNF game Enrico Palazzo'ed one of the real umps and took the field there.

[KC_Connection]

Did the replacement refs move down to Atlanta for this game?

[stonedstooge]

Should make the ump crew pick that shit up

[ArrowheadMagic]

they should fly a banner or something

LMAO

[Simply Red]

smoke 'em if you got 'em - this is going to take a while. The umps feel naked, standing there. Or at least they should.

[Simply Red]

And Braves fans show no class

just feel lucky it's not bodies, son.

[chefsos]

Correct me if I'm wrong. The infield fly rule is designed to prevent the fielder from letting a pop up drop in order to get the easy force (or 2). That was never going to happen out there.

[KC_Connection]

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[jd1020]

Kind of embarrassing how they rest of the umps dont overrule that.

[stonedstooge]

Ump didn't call it until the ss gave a signal like he didn't see it or couldn't get it

[KC_Connection]

Correct me if I'm wrong. The infield fly rule is designed to prevent the fielder from letting a pop up drop in order to get the easy force (or 2). That was never going to happen out there.
Yes, exactly. I think the umpire forgot he was in LF.

[veist]

So seriously, I better not catch anyone of us complaining about Denkinger again.

[chefsos]

It would be really easy, too, to reverse this call. It's not like they'd be adding/subtracting runs or moving baserunners all over.

EDIT: And it wouldn't hurt the Cardinals all that much, either. The DP would be in order.

[Simply Red]

Kind of embarrassing how they rest of the umps dont overrule that.

I have to agree with you.

The Braves fans have to cool it though.

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

JIM BOWDEN ‏@JimBowdenESPNxm

Is game under protest?

[Raiderhater]

Wow. How the hell does that get called?

[ArrowheadMagic]

Yes, exactly. I think the umpire forgot he was in LF.

Another ump should know he was

[KC_Connection]

Kind of embarrassing how they rest of the umps dont overrule that.
It's hard to understand why they just don't. They all know it was the wrong call.

[jd1020]

Wow. How the hell does that get called?

So that ump can get his 15 mins of fame.

[Simply Red]

JIM BOWDEN ‏@JimBowdenESPNxm

Is game under protest?

Yup. I think it is.

[stonedstooge]

So seriously, I better not catch anyone of us complaining about Denkinger again.

That call was a hell of a sight worse then Denkinger's call. Dude made it up

[ArrowheadMagic]

JIM BOWDEN ‏@JimBowdenESPNxm

Is game under protest?

yes, COULD affect the outcome

[stonedstooge]

Game being played under protest

[Chest Rockwell]

Doesn't matter where it's at. By the book it can be called anywhere as long as an infielder has a play on the ball.

May not be a great rule, but it sounds like it's being called by the book.

[chefsos]

Has any protest, in the history of ever, been successful?

[ArrowheadMagic]

pretty sure the rule wasnt applied correctly.

[KC_Connection]

Uh, Verducci, the rule was not applied properly...the ball landed in the outfield.

[Simply Red]

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[ShowtimeSBMVP]

Has any protest, in the history of ever, been successful?

Braves will win this one.

[stonedstooge]

Has any protest, in the history of ever, been successful?

Pine Tar incident?

[Simply Red]

Has any protest, in the history of ever, been successful?

extremely uncommon, but i'd say yes. But I don't know.

[duncan_idaho]

This is the problem you open yourself up to by having instant replay in such a limited factor.

If you're going to have replay, something like this situation has to be reviewable.

And also... gosh, the third base ump has to have the stones to overturn that play.

Braves fans are garbage. As is Matt Holliday in LF.

[Simply Red]

Braves will win this one.

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[Simply Red]

This is the problem you open yourself up to by having instant replay in such a limited factor.

If you're going to have replay, something like this situation has to be reviewable.

And also... gosh, the third base ump has to have the stones to overturn that play.

Braves fans are garbage. As is Matt Holliday in LF.

Go fist your kitten. Faggot.

[chefsos]

Pine Tar incident?I thought about that one. Couldn't remember if it was an official protest.

[chefsos]

Actually, Braves fans kind of impressed me. I thought they were completely apathetic.

[teedubya]

Horrible replacement umps.

[stonedstooge]

I thought about that one. Couldn't remember if it was an official protest.

Wikipedia says it was

[KC_Connection]

Doesn't matter where it's at. By the book it can be called anywhere as long as an infielder has a play on the ball.

May not be a great rule, but it sounds like it's being called by the book.

Kozma backed off that ball so Holliday could catch it and was surprised when he didn't.

[Simply Red]

Actually, Braves fans kind of impressed me. I thought they were completely apathetic.

it's just so populated now w/ transplants. It's all the folks from the Swats or the others that transferred here from Yonkers.

[teedubya]

Braves fans need to fly a banner real quick.

[kstater]

Might see the smallest strike zone ever in this AB

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

Should be 6-4 now

[Simply Red]

your manager has been nifty w/ his pitching changes. Freddy getting out coached, honestly.

Edit: The errors were certainly the difference in the score though, just so that i'm clear.

[kstater]

6-4 1 out with bases loaded now.

[ArrowheadMagic]

This is the problem you open yourself up to by having instant replay in such a limited factor.

If you're going to have replay, something like this situation has to be reviewable.

And also... gosh, the third base ump has to have the stones to overturn that play.

Braves fans are garbage. As is Matt Holliday in LF.

You are correct.

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

Ken Rosenthal ‏@Ken_Rosenthal

Call on infield-fly rule is supposed to be immediate, according to rulebook. This wasn't.

[Al Bundy]

What the fuck kind of pitch was that?

[duncan_idaho]

Go fist your kitten. pillowbitergot.

On your side on this one. Except for Braves fans acting like douches.

[Simply Red]

i'm massively delayed here, Odd.

[Simply Red]

On your side on this one. Except for Braves fans acting like douches.

Lucky it wasn't bodies.

[whoman69]

Dodged a bullet after the short rain delay.

[Simply Red]

k - it's over - congrats Cards, you beat the MLB Chiefs. Lady luck and the umps were with you. BFN

[jd1020]

k - it's over - congrats Cards, you beat the MLB Chiefs. Lady luck and the umps were with you. BFN

Until they start the game with the bases loaded and 1 out in the bottom of the 8th tomorrow.

[Chief_For_Life58]

what the f just happened there

[kstater]

That one wasn't quite to the warning track, call fly-rule

[tk13]

LMAO at the Braves fans chanting "infield fly" on the fly balls to the outfield.

[duncan_idaho]

k - it's over - congrats Cards, you beat the MLB Chiefs. Lady luck and the umps were with you. BFN

The Ross timeout worked out pretty well for the Braves, similar blown call. And probably about as impactful.

[jd1020]

The Ross timeout worked out pretty well for the Braves, similar blown call. And probably about as impactful.

:LOL:

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

Everett Teaford ‏@teaparty61

Being a pitcher I am really excited about the prospects of the new outfield fly rule

[McWickedson]

I know this, we should never bitch about denkinger ever again.

[Simply Red]

Until they start the game with the bases loaded and 1 out in the bottom of the 8th tomorrow.

Thanks - i never knew the process.

[kstater]

Me thinks they re-play this thing tonight.

[stonedstooge]

Decision's going to have to be made pretty quick as I'm sure the Cardinals are scheduled to fly out of Atlanta tonight

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Frank Dribbon out in the OF calling this thang?

[Frazod]

Still on the train-I have to go home to my pissed-off Braves fan wife who's been sending me angry texts for half an hour. I think I'd be better off going back to the office.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

The result will stay the same, bank on it.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Actually hoping Chipper gets a hit here.

Actually, solo HR would be better.

[Simply Red]

Me thinks they re-play this thing tonight.

God you sexy thing, get over here and hug me!

[kstater]

lol

E3

[OnTheWarpath15]

Descalso actually had time, because Jones was half-assing it down the line.

[stonedstooge]

Poetic justice to be served?

[Al Bundy]

Still on the train-I have to go home to my pissed-off Braves fan wife who's been sending me angry texts for half an hour. I think I'd be better off going back to the office.

Anti-freeze for you.

[Al Bundy]

What the fuck is that thing on Motte's face?

[Simply Red]

I don't think they could organize a continuum tonight.

[tk13]

Nice knowing you frazod. I wouldn't drink anything you didn't personally make for the next week.

[Simply Red]

so is it or is it not under protest?

[OnTheWarpath15]

I'm sure Chipper Jones is thrilled that his last moment as a big leaguer was on a field being pelted with garbage.

[Al Bundy]

I'm sure Chipper Jones is thrilled that his last moment as a big leaguer was on a field being pelted with garbage.

Or with an Ump that made the wrong call... knowingly.

[stonedstooge]

so is it or is it not under protest?

It is

[Simply Red]

no protest I guess. Hilarious how they just stoped talking about it.

[McWickedson]

But damn, holiday fucking sucks at fielding.

[kstater]

no protest I guess. Hilarious how they just stoped talking about it.

It's under protest. MLB will have to make a finding, then if it's upheld, they'll re-start the game from the moment of the protest.

[McWickedson]

I haven't felt dirty about a win since the 1999 nfc championship game.

[kstater]

It's going to suck for the Cardinals to have to re-play the last 5 outs with champagne soaked uniforms.

[jd1020]

It's under protest. MLB will have to make a finding, then if it's upheld, they'll re-start the game from the moment of the protest.

I can't imagine any scenario where they aren't playing tomorrow.

That call was so blatantly blown in a critical point in the game.

[Simply Red]

It's under protest. MLB will have to make a finding, then if it's upheld, they'll re-start the game from the moment of the protest.

yay. So how do they regulate the crowds return, issue rain checks, i guess?

[teedubya]

The Braves made too many errant throws and left too many men stranded on base... but yeah, that call was horrific.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

More time for 'tang Chip

[kcpasco]

Then the Cards should protest Ross getting a 4th strike.

[kstater]

Then the Cards should protest Ross getting a 4th strike.

They certainly could have, they didn't though.

[Simply Red]

I doubt this will get reversed. Sucks.

[jd1020]

I doubt this will get reversed. Sucks.

Huh?

You think it stands?

There is no such thing as an "outfield fly rule." Should have been bases loaded with 1 out.

I don't see how there is any chance the result is upheld. This game decides who have a chance at a WS.

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

JIM BOWDEN ‏@JimBowdenESPNxm

MLB has already denied protest

[KC_Connection]

And the protest has been denied...no surprise.

[jd1020]

JIM BOWDEN ‏@JimBowdenESPNxm

MLB has already denied protest

ROFL

What a joke.

[kstater]

JIM BOWDEN ‏@JimBowdenESPNxm

MLB has already denied protest

Would love to see the tapdancing around this.

[Al Bundy]

Uhhmm did anyone think MLB would not deny it? It is one of their primary teams getting the call...

[Frazod]

Just saw the replay. Wow. Very fucked up.

[O.city]

The infield fly rule doesn't have to occur on a fly ball in the infield.

[seclark]

fuck y'all...we're the cardinalsLMAO
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[jd1020]

Uhhmm did anyone think MLB would not deny it? It is one of their primary teams getting the call...

I would think that in a game that decides who gets a chance at a WS with a call that doesn't even exist in the rulebook potentially changing the outcome of the game that it would be a no brainer.

[jd1020]

The infield fly rule doesn't have to occur on a fly ball

Look at this guy pretending it was legit.

[Frazod]

Uhhmm did anyone think MLB would not deny it? It is one of their primary teams getting the call...

Yeah, they really dig those small market midwestern teams. :rolleyes:

[Simply Red]

Huh?

You think it stands?

There is no such thing as an "outfield fly rule." Should have been bases loaded with 1 out.

I don't see how there is any chance the result is upheld. This game decides who have a chance at a WS.

i hope you're right - but they can call the IFFR practically on the warning-track, if they wanted to - If an infielder is enovlved in the play or has a chance at the play, at least that's what they just said on the TV, Atlanta's biggest hope should be that they recognize the ump waited until the ball was 9' off the ground before he signaled. They have to give the call immediately. I just hope other factors don't enter into their decision.

[ArrowheadMagic]

And the protest has been denied...no surprise.

lol... they better change the rule then. Next year might have a few protests.

[jd1020]

i hope you're right - but they can call the IFFR practically on the warning-track, if they wanted to - If an infielder is enovlved in the play or has a chance at the play, at least that's what they just said on the TV, Atlanta's biggest hope should be that they recognize the ump waited until the ball was 9' off the ground before he signaled. They have to give the call immediately. I just hope other factors don't enter into their decision.

The infield fly rule has to be called immediately on routine pop ups in the infield where the infielder is camped under the ball to protect the offensive team.

The infielder was back pedaling 50 feet in the outfield and was never at any point camped under the ball.

Doesn't matter. They've already denied the protest which is a joke.

I wouldn't have even been able to pop a cork on a bottle after that if I was a Cardinals player.

[ArrowheadMagic]

The infield fly rule has to be called immediately on routine pop ups in the infield where the infielder is camped under the ball to protect the offensive team.

The infielder was back pedaling 50 feet in the outfield and was never at any point camped under the ball.

Doesn't matter. They've already denied the protest which is a joke.

In no way was the rule applied correctly.

[O.city]

Look at this guy pretending it was legit.

Sorry my phone caused it to post before I finished.


The infield fly rule can occur in the outfield. Not saying it was the right call, but it can happen

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Terrible call, but no way they even considered overruling the play on the field. Tis what it is.

[Simply Red]

And the protest has been denied...no surprise.

source?

[Simply Red]

The infield fly rule has to be called immediately on routine pop ups in the infield where the infielder is camped under the ball to protect the offensive team.

The infielder was back pedaling 50 feet in the outfield and was never at any point camped under the ball.

Doesn't matter. They've already denied the protest which is a joke.

I wouldn't have even been able to pop a cork on a bottle after that if I was a Cardinals player.

wow, drat. Oh well

[jd1020]

Sorry my phone caused it to post before I finished.


The infield fly rule can occur in the outfield. Not saying it was the right call, but it can happen

I know what you were trying to say.

Should have never been said.

[Frazod]

Terrible call, but no way they even considered overruling the play on the field. Tis what it is.

So strange to be on the winning side of one of these. 99% of the time I'm with the fuck-ees, not the fuck-ers.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Now, the real playoffs begin.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

So strange to be on the winning side of one of these. 99% of the time I'm with the fuck-ees, not the fuck-ers.

Yeah, doesn't feel as good as I thought it would. Oh well, off to the next round.

[Frazod]

Yeah, doesn't feel as good as I thought it would. Oh well, off to the next round.

Apparently you have to be from Colorado to really get off on it.

[ArrowheadMagic]

Sorry my phone caused it to post before I finished.


The infield fly rule can occur in the outfield. Not saying it was the right call, but it can happen

NO, that ball has not ,and will not ever be ever called with the infield fly rule. Poor call and because of traveling, wont be overturned.

[Simply Red]

yeah precisley - -it's that his call was so delayed, the call is for everyone watching and playing - but it's made immediately. They do have to make it immediate for the on base runners.

Great job MLB. Way to NOT admit your mistake at such a momentous/opportune time.

[tk13]

Jon Heyman is saying on twitter they haven't ruled on the protest officially yet.

[O.city]

The ball being in the outfield has nothing to do with the infield fly rule. It was an awful call, but an infield fly rule can occur outside of the infield

[Simply Red]

bunch of Scott Pioli's wearing Macgregor vests!

[jd1020]

Shit like that should NEVER happen. Ridiculous how the umps couldn't get together and overrule such a terrible call and play on with 1 out and the bases loaded.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Apparently you have to be from Colorado to really get off on it.

Is this where we bury our head in the sand and pretend the play never happened? I'm lost here. Those fucks have the art mastered though.

[ArrowheadMagic]

Congrats Cards. Move on

[Simply Red]

The ball being in the outfield has nothing to do with the infield fly rule. It was an awful call, but an infield fly rule can occur outside of the infield

correct - but it was when WHEN the dumbshit made the signal. the ball was literally almost on the ground.

[jd1020]

The ball being in the outfield has nothing to do with the infield fly rule. It was an awful call, but an infield fly rule can occur outside of the infield

Why are you even trying to defend the call at all? Seriously. Just stop. Everyone is fully aware that the infield fly rule can be called on the outfield grass.

Show me where its ever been called 50+ feet into the outfield with the infielder constantly back pedaling and still coming up 5 feet short of where the ball landed.

[Frazod]

Is this where we bury our head in the sand and pretend the play never happened? I'm lost here. Those fucks have the art mastered though.

It was a horrible call. Much like the 5th down, the phantom hold in the '97 Chiefs/Broncos playoff game, all of the $tealer$/Seahawks Super Bowl, I could go on and on. It is what it is. I'll never deny it wasn't bullshit, but I'm been on the receiving end so often that I'm not going to lose any sleep over it.

[Simply Red]

Congrats Cards. Move on

oh i'm fine, like i said earlier - think i'm not used to this, being a Chief's fan and all?

[Pasta Little Brioni]

It was a horrible call. Much like the 5th down, the phantom hold in the '97 Chiefs/Broncos playoff game, all of the $tealer$/Seahawks Super Bowl, I could go on and on. It is what it is. I'll never deny it wasn't bullshit, but I'm been on the receiving end so often that I'm not going to lose any sleep over it.

Yeah, the call was Dribbonesque, but oh well. Hell, I was waiting for the umps to start playing "pickle".

[O.city]

Why are you even trying to defend the call at all? Seriously. Just stop. Everyone is fully aware that the infield fly rule can be called on the outfield grass.

Show me where its ever been called 50+ into the outfield with the infielder constantly back pedaling and still coming up 5 feet short of where the ball landed.

I guess you missed me saying it was an awful call?


Kozma was somewhat under it, waving his arms. It doesn't matter where he is. That's not the part that was fucked up. The area doesn't matter, it's the timing and the overall call

[jd1020]

The call does make the gif in the OP that much better, though.

[ArrowheadMagic]

The ball being in the outfield has nothing to do with the infield fly rule. It was an awful call, but an infield fly rule can occur outside of the infield

Not at that depth, its an ump that forgot where he was. Its a call that makes every misplay of a pop up, a protest. Guy loses ball in sun, should have been infield fly rule.

[Frazod]

Oh, and people wonder why I don't like Holliday? One playoff game he should have cost us, and one that he did with his horrible fielding.

[jd1020]

I guess you missed me saying it was an awful call?


Kozma was somewhat under it, waving his arms. It doesn't matter where he is. That's not the part that was ****ed up. The area doesn't matter, it's the timing and the overall call

Everything you say about it being an awful call goes out the window when you say shit like this.

The infield fly rule was put in place to prevent a short pop up from being intentionally dropped and turned into a double/triple play.

That play was NEVER going to be more than 1 out.

[O.city]

Not at that depth, its an ump that forgot where he was. Its a call that makes every misplay of a pop up, a protest. Guy loses ball in sun, should have been infield fly rule.

Where people are getting misunderstood, is the infield part. That's all I'm arguing.

[Simply Red]

I guess you missed me saying it was an awful call?


Kozma was somewhat under it, waving his arms. It doesn't matter where he is. That's not the part that was ****ed up. The area doesn't matter, it's the timing and the overall call

the timing was the critical botch tonight. Fuck it - who cares? I always have Footb................ OhYEAH - NM

[ArrowheadMagic]

I guess you missed me saying it was an awful call?


Kozma was somewhat under it, waving his arms. It doesn't matter where he is. That's not the part that was ****ed up. The area doesn't matter, it's the timing and the overall call

Rule states ump must call it immediately, did he?

[O.city]

Ok jd, does he have to be on the infield for it to be ruled an infield fly rule?

[chiefsfan987]

I didn't watch it but happened to be listening on the radio when it happened and the way the national audio broadcast described it they said the ump got the call right although they didn't agree with it. They said that the ump can call infield fly rule on plays like that because it didn't take "above average ability to make the play". Apparently there is a clause in the rule that specifically states this or so they said.

[ArrowheadMagic]

Ok jd, does he have to be on the infield for it to be ruled an infield fly rule?

Where the ball dropped, is that the infield?

[O.city]

Rule states ump must call it immediately, did he?

Where am I saying he didn't ? The timing and ruling that the player is in an area to make a routine play is where he fucked up. The area he was in doesn't matter

[Simply Red]

does anyone know of any good free streaming adult sites?

[jd1020]

Ok jd, does he have to be on the infield for it to be ruled an infield fly rule?

No he doesn't... he can be in the outfield but he must be camped under the ball and the call must be made immediately. He was NEVER camped under the ball and the call WAS NOT immediate. There was NEVER any danger of a double play.

Even bringing up the fact that the call can be made on outfield grass is ignorant.

[O.city]

Where the ball dropped, is that the infield?

No, it doesn't matter though.

[Simply Red]

Where the ball dropped, is that the infield?

Rick Trolled.

[ArrowheadMagic]

I didn't watch it but happened to be listening on the radio when it happened and the way the national audio broadcast described it they said the ump got the call right although they didn't agree with it. They said that the ump can call infield fly rule on plays like that because it didn't take "above average ability to make the play". Apparently there is a clause in the rule that specifically states this or so they said.

if it puts the offense at a disadvantage

[Pasta Little Brioni]

does anyone know of any good free streaming adult sites?

Sounds like a good time for fuq Red. Happy fap.

[O.city]

He doesn't have to be camped under te ball

[jd1020]

He doesn't have to be camped under te ball

Yes he fucking does.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

TrollO City has returned.

[O.city]

Camped under no. He can be moving as long as its determined that its a routine play

[Spott]

I don't follow baseball at all, but knowing Atlanta got screwed by a team from Missouri doesn't bother me one bit after the Falcons and Dawgs ruined our football weekend last month.

[Dr. Johnny Fever]

He doesn't have to be camped under te ball

According to what was stated on the broadcast he does... but I haven't read the rule. It was a shit call and could have changed the outcome. That said said I wouldn't uphold the protest and replay it if I were MLB. Shit calls happen and this didn't drectly take runs off the board so I wouldn't over rule the umps, bad call or not.

That said, did I hear it wrong or are the Cardinals now hosting the Nats and if so why in the fuck is that? The Nats won 10 more games and their division.

[jd1020]

Camped under no. He can be moving as long as its determined that its a routine play

Routine is side stepping a few feet.

Routine is not running 50+ feet into the outfield for a pop up as an infielder.

Keep on trollin.

[Al Bundy]

Yeah, they really dig those small market midwestern teams. :rolleyes:

You guys are right up there with the Yankees.

[Frazod]

I don't follow baseball at all, but knowing Atlanta got screwed by a team from Missouri doesn't bother me one bit after the Falcons and Dawgs ruined our football weekend last month.

Fuckers swept us in St. Louis, too.

They should put that on a t-shirt.

[ArrowheadMagic]

Where am I saying he didn't ? The timing and ruling that the player is in an area to make a routine play is where he ****ed up. The area he was in doesn't matter

The rule says he needs to make the call within reason of putting the offense at a disadvantage. The call was late, severely late. MLB will call it a judgment call, but thats not the rule. the rule wasnt applied correctly because he didnt immediately call it. No other ump called it that way. If it was truly an infield fly rule, why didnt the 3rd base ump call it?


Its a rule that wasnt applied correctly. Regular season game with no travel restrictions to put a team at a disadvantage... gets over turn.

[Frazod]

You guys are right up there with the Yankees.

My ass. Atlanta is three or four times the size of St. Louis and has a large national fanbase from years of TBS broadcasts. Don't forget the love affair everybody had with Chipper this year, too. Frankly, I'm stunned that such a godawful call DIDN'T go against us. It damn well would have in the WWNFL.

Do you think MLB wants to see St. Louis play in the World Series over teams like Philadelphia and New York? Do you think Fox does? They want Yankees v. Dodgers every fucking year.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

According to what was stated on the broadcast he does... but I haven't read the rule. It was a shit call and could have changed the outcome. That said said I wouldn't uphold the protest and replay it if I were MLB. Shit calls happen and this didn't drectly take runs off the board so I wouldn't over rule the umps, bad call or not.

That said, did I hear it wrong or are the Cardinals now hosting the Nats and if so why in the fuck is that? The Nats won 10 more games and their division.

Nats get last 3 at home.

[chefsos]

According to what was stated on the broadcast he does... but I haven't read the rule. It was a shit call and could have changed the outcome. That said said I wouldn't uphold the protest and replay it if I were MLB. Shit calls happen and this didn't drectly take runs off the board so I wouldn't over rule the umps, bad call or not.

That said, did I hear it wrong or are the Cardinals now hosting the Nats and if so why in the fuck is that? The Nats won 10 more games and their division.The 5 game Division series is a 2-3 format this year, I guess because of less travel time due to the WC game.

[qabbaan]

Stay classy braves fans

[Dr. Johnny Fever]

The 5 game Division series is a 2-3 format this year, I guess because of less travel time due to the WC game.

Ah yes ok, thanks.

[Frazod]

You know what would have really been cool? If Matheny had ordered the pitcher to give up two intentional walks to load the bases and plate the lost run, then resumed normal play. Would have diffused the crowd and the controversy. And if the Cards had ended up losing, oh well.

I guess shit like that only happens in the movies and those silly sportsmanship commercials, though.

[Marcellus]

Crazy game and all that will be discussed is a call that did not directly effect runs being scored.

Hell I think it makes things even for the time being called after Loshe threw the pitch for the strike out right before the HR.

Book is even.

[Al Bundy]

My ass. Atlanta is three or four times the size of St. Louis and has a large national fanbase from years of TBS broadcasts. Don't forget the love affair everybody had with Chipper this year, too. Frankly, I'm stunned that such a godawful call DIDN'T go against us. It damn well would have in the WWNFL.

Do you think MLB wants to see St. Louis play in the World Series over teams like Philadelphia and New York? Do you think Fox does? They want Yankees v. Dodgers every ****ing year.

No way... Fox/ESPN loves your team.

[Frazod]

No way... Fox/ESPN loves your team.

No, they love RATINGS and MONEY.

[VAChief]

The infield fly rule doesn't have to occur on a fly ball in the infield.

Yes, the rule is whether and infielder has a play on the ball and clearly when he raises his hand Kosma is still chasing the ball...those things are always judgement, however right after the ump raises his hand, Kosma pulls off the play and Holliday is left flatfooted. If he raised his hand AFTER Kosma pulled off the play it would have been a bogus call.

[VAChief]

Yes he ****ing does.

Wrong

[VAChief]

Routine is side stepping a few feet.

Routine is not running 50+ feet into the outfield for a pop up as an infielder.

Keep on trollin.

Good lord, have you ever played the game?