Andy Reid

[jAZ]

Speculation that he'll be out in Philly after this year.

Would you want him as the HC here in KC ... considering any other REALISTIC alternative options you expect are likely to exist (ie, don't consider Sean Payton, Jimmy Johnson, or any other unrealistic HC option).

[The Franchise]

Fuck no.

[suds79]

I think Andy Reid is a really good coach.

Seems to always get the most out of QBs.

[BigMeatballDave]

No, because that motherfucker would want to bring Vick with him.

[CoMoChief]

Absolutely....and draft Geno Smith

[GordonGekko]

**** no.

Seconded.

No more re-tread hand me down coaches. Reid should take his $millions and retire.

[The Franchise]

No, because that motherfucker would want to bring Vick with him.

I don't think he would. I think he'd use it as a chance to separate himself from Vick. I don't want him because he doesn't know how to run the fucking ball at all. Dude has McCoy and gets him maybe 15 carries a game.

[Brock]

I don't hate the idea.

[Silock]

There are much worse choices.

[DaKCMan AP]

I don't think he would. I think he'd use it as a chance to separate himself from Vick. I don't want him because he doesn't know how to run the fucking ball at all. Dude has McCoy and gets him maybe 15 carries a game.

This.

[suds79]

Think about what this guy has done.

The inaccurate McNabb, went to a SB. Resurrected Michael Vicks career before he turned back into a pumpkin (injury prone & turns the ball over). Had us thinking we missed on Nick Foles for a bit there.

[boogblaster]

maybe .. if he'd hire a QB in the first round ..

[ChiTown]

http://gifs.gifbin.com/092009/1252938065_squirting-vomit.gif

[BossChief]

He would be on my short list because he knows how to draft and develop quarterbacks.

Color aside, Geno is a much better version of McNabb and AR got the most out of Donovan.

[BlackHelicopters]

No. smh

[Chiefspants]

Marty 2.0 (In terms of his inability to win the big one)

[The Franchise]

He would be on my short list because he knows how to draft and develop quarterbacks.

Color aside, Geno is a better version of McNabb and AR got the most out of Donovan.

That would be the only positive that I could see.

[Rasputin]

I feel bad for him for his family issues but that's also why I don't want him. I think he needs take a break from football personally. At some point he is going be an emotional wreck because he uses football as a gateway from reallity of whats going on with his family.

[Titty Meat]

Yes.

[The Franchise]

I'd take Mike McCoy over him.

[jspchief]

He refuses to run the ball.

[Titty Meat]

Yeah McCoy is #1 on my list. Reid would be 2 or 3.

[CaliforniaChief]

Reid should get a look if available. However, my top HC candidates are as follows:

1. David Shaw (Stanford HC)
2. JAY Gruden
3. Rob Ryan
4. Perry Fewell (Only if he comes with Marc Ross, who I'd LOVE as GM)
5. Mike McCoy

[DaKCMan AP]

Reid should get a look if available. However, my top HC candidates are as follows:

1. David Shaw (Stanford HC)
2. JAY Gruden
3. Rob Ryan
4. Perry Fewell (Only if he comes with Marc Ross, who I'd LOVE as GM)
5. Mike McCoy

David Shaw? Really?

Rob Ryan? Really?

[Easy 6]

There are much worse choices.

This.

If he would commit to the run a bit more, i'd be fine with it... he'd bring this O out of the stone age.

[BossChief]

Another negative working against Reid would be that his defensive philosophy doesn't really mesh with the qualities of our current players on defense very well.

If he would be OK with hiring a 3-4 zone blitzing DC, Id be fully on board.

[BossChief]

Reid should get a look if available. However, my top HC candidates are as follows:

1. David Shaw (Stanford HC)
2. JAY Gruden
3. Rob Ryan
4. Perry Fewell (Only if he comes with Marc Ross, who I'd LOVE as GM)
5 Mike McCoy

Fuck this list with meccas old toilet brush...well, except for McCoy and MAYBE Jay Gruden...but Im not sure either of them is ready.

[DaneMcCloud]

:Lin:

[BossChief]

Why dont you like Andy Reid, Dane?

[memyselfI]

Too much Marv Levy and Marty. No thanks.

[CaliforniaChief]

David Shaw? Really?

Rob Ryan? Really?

Yes. Shaw has NFL coaching experience and runs a pro-style offense at Stanford. He's worked under Jim Harbaugh, and has some Chiefs roots (loosely, albeit through his dad who coached in KC.)

And I think I remember you liking Rob Ryan at some point. I could be wrong, but Ryan would restore the aggressive, QB-killing defense we need.

[BlackHelicopters]

Reid should get a look if available. However, my top HC candidates are as follows:

1. David Shaw (Stanford HC)
2. JAY Gruden
3. Rob Ryan
4. Perry Fewell (Only if he comes with Marc Ross, who I'd LOVE as GM)
5. Mike McCoy

Perry Fewell deserves a look.

[Johnny Vegas]

I think its too early in the season to use McCoy 25-30 times a game. Not till November and December will I expect more production out of McCoy. Its just the right time of season to throw the long ball. That said I'd really like him as HC. Will it happen? not a chance.

[DaKCMan AP]

MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

No one asked you, freemartin.

[DaKCMan AP]

Yes. Shaw has NFL coaching experience and runs a pro-style offense at Stanford. He's worked under Jim Harbaugh, and has some Chiefs roots (loosely, albeit through his dad who coached in KC.)

And I think I remember you liking Rob Ryan at some point. I could be wrong, but Ryan would restore the aggressive, QB-killing defense we need.

Do you not watch Shaw's abominable coaching last week?

The Cowboys are in the bottom half of the league in scoring defense.

[BossChief]

Ryan would restore the aggressive, QB-killing defense we need.

The #1 gripe Dallas fans have with Ryan is that he doesn't coach aggressive defenses. they are begging for him to call more blitzes...sound similar?

[BossChief]

Wouldnt Reid also want some GM control?

[Sofa King]

http://gifs.gifbin.com/092009/1252938065_squirting-vomit.gif

LMAO

This^

[malachi47000]

Need a new GM, otherwise Pioli won't get anyone worthy of a head coach....

[Bump]

no thanks on him

[warpaint*]

I think he's decent but overrated. Not enough balance in his offense. Jim Johnson was the man behind those defenses he had. No thanks I'll pass.

[saphojunkie]

Reid should get a look if available. However, my top HC candidates are as follows:

1. David Shaw (Stanford HC)
2. JAY Gruden
3. Rob Ryan
4. Perry Fewell (Only if he comes with Marc Ross, who I'd LOVE as GM)
5. Mike McCoy

I'd way rather have Kevin Gilbride than Perry Fewell and his 4-3 conversion. Until last week, the Giants were #1 in the league for yards per attempt.

Oh, and I second Rob Ryan, because I'd love to see our defense with that 1-gap 3-4. That said, I think he is the polar opposite of what Clark is looking for in a HC.

[Brock]

I'd way rather have Kevin Gilbride and his 9.2 yards per completion than Perry Fewell and his 4-3 conversion.

Oh, and I second Rob Ryan, because I'd love to see our defense with that 1-gap 3-4. That said, I think he is the polar opposite of what Clark is looking for in a HC.

Oh yeah, he's done a fantastic job with Dallas' defense. :doh!:

[Hammock Parties]

I'm on board.

He fits of the trend of successful coaches who have never won a Super Bowl.

Those guys go to other teams and win Super Bowls.

Example:

Tom Coughlin
Dick Vermeil
Tony Dungy
Bill Belichick
Jon Gruden
Mike Shanahan
Don Shula

Andy Reid has one of the highest winning percentages in NFL history, with multiple quarterbacks, and his offenses have almost always been productive. And he's only 54.

I would like him to lose 50 lbs.

[Brock]

I'm on board.

He fits of the trend of successful coaches who have never won a Super Bowl.

Those guys go to other teams and win Super Bowls.

Example:

Tom Coughlin
Dick Vermeil
Tony Dungy
Bill Belichick
Jon Gruden
Mike Shanahan
Don Shula

So did Romeo Crennel!

[Hammock Parties]

He refuses to run the ball.

Eagles are 11th in rushing this year.

Another Reid myth.

Besides, a HC who believes in pass > run WOULD BE FUCKING WELCOME.

[Hammock Parties]

So did Romeo Crennel!

Romeo Crennel was a successful HEAD COACH somewhere?

In what universe? Alternate reality NFL? X Dimension?

Those guys were all successful head coaches somewhere else before they went to their 2nd team and won big. I guess Shanahan wasn't. Whatever.

[Brock]

Eagles are 11th in rushing this year.

Another Reid myth.

Besides, a HC who believes in pass > run WOULD BE FUCKING WELCOME.

A coach who realizes the importance of never stopping looking for QBs would be too.

[Brock]

Romeo Crennel was a successful HEAD COACH somewhere?

In what universe? Alternate reality NFL? X Dimension?

He had about the same amount of success as Belichick or Shanahan did. I don't buy any that "trend" BS.

[The Franchise]

Is he my first choice? No.

Would I be upset? Meh.

[the Talking Can]

yeah, let's bring in a burn out...

[Hammock Parties]

He had about the same amount of success as Belichick or Shanahan did. I don't buy any that "trend" BS.

OK, those were probably bad examples.

The rest ring true.

It's better than hiring Cowher, for sure.

I'd prefer to strike gold with a Sean Payton type, but Reid would be acceptable if he doesn't keel over from BBQ abuse.

[Hammock Parties]

Won't happen because the Eagles would be fools to let him go.

[bowener]

When Norv Turner is fired, who would like him as OC?

[Sorter]

I would love to have Reid as an OC and QB coach. I'm not sure if he would be willing to do that.

However, a Mike Zimmer HC and an Andy Reid OC doesn't sound terrible to me.

[Sorter]

When Norv Turner is fired, who would like him as OC?

Most would, IMO.

[jspchief]

Eagles are 11th in rushing this year.

Another Reid myth.

Besides, a HC who believes in pass > run WOULD BE ****ING WELCOME.Michael Vick yo.

Take his 40 runs out of the equation and where do they rank?

[The Franchise]

The Eagles are 10th in rushing yards with 732.

Vick has 205 rushing yards.

Without Vick they would be 20th in the league in rushing yards.

[Brock]

Michael Vick yo.

Take his 40 runs out of the equation and where do they rank?

McCoy is top 10 in yards. I agree he should have more, though.

[DaKCMan AP]

The Eagles are 10th in rushing yards with 732.

Vick has 205 rushing yards.

Without Vick they would be 20th in the league in rushing yards.

Further, if you take away Vick's rushes they are 27th in the league in rushing attempts per game.

[1ChiefsDan]

I want a real fucking coaching search conducted. Said the same thing last year. Do a search and find the BEST candidate.

[Woodchuck]

I'll take Reid but he probably won't take a QB early unless he is in love with them. He'll probably go d-line. He loves to move up and take linemen. Just make sure you are ready for that if we hire Reid.


But, the guy does know QBs.

[Hammock Parties]

Rushing attempts and rushing yards are irrelevant in 2012.

Get a QB.

And a fat bastard to lead the team.

Worked for GB.

[Hammock Parties]

Jamaal Charles would rape in a pass-first offense getting 60 catches and 200 rushes a year.

Wide open running lanes in 4 wide.

[CaliforniaChief]

Jamaal Charles would rape in a pass-first offense getting 60 catches and 200 rushes a year.

Wide open running lanes in 4 wide.

Agreed. It's a miracle that Charles gets what he does with the abysmal passing offense of this team. We need to open things up. Receivers flying all over the field, a QB with a smart enough mind and strong enough arm to fling it all over the place, and guys like Charles/DMC in the flat? Yes, please.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Reid should get a look if available. However, my top HC candidates are as follows:

1. David Shaw (Stanford HC)
2. JAY Gruden
3. Rob Ryan
4. Perry Fewell (Only if he comes with Marc Ross, who I'd LOVE as GM)
5. Mike McCoy

JFC rochambeau

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Eagles are 11th in rushing this year.

Another Reid myth.

Besides, a HC who believes in pass > run WOULD BE FUCKING WELCOME.

Running QB dummy. It's not a myth.

[whoman69]

He's lost his way in Philly because he has had to take more of the burden in Philly after Jim Johnson died. He doesn't have the energy to do it anymore. It cost him his family. You can see it in his press conferences. He's a dead man walking who was forced to fire his DC or face firing himself. He won't have the energy to start all over in KC.

[New World Order]

Cowher would be my number 1 choice but I certainly would not mind Reid coming here

[Dave Lane]

Oh yeah, he's done a fantastic job with Dallas' defense. :doh!:

Rob Ryan is a fucking loon to boot.

[bricks]

He would be on my list of candidates.

In comparison to the other head coaches this organization has hired over the past 7 years, Andy Reid is a ****ing genius.

At least he wins.

Thats the most important stat you gotta look at folks. The other 3 junks that have coached this team(Herm, Haley, Crennel) have a combined winning percentage of 41%.

*Lastly, this type of hire would address the issue that this franchise has faced over the 7 years which is inability to hire good head coaches.

Not having a good head coach has ****ed this team up over the years.

[BossChief]

Id probably say that conservatively speaking 80% of the importance going forward with the Chiefs is finding and developing a franchise quarterback.

Not many guys better at that than Andy Reid that will be available.

[Quesadilla Joe]

You wouldn't have to worry about him ruining Jamaal Charles.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

You wouldn't have to worry about him ruining Jamaal Charles.

The only thing Charles is going to ruin is that below average Donkey D sport.

[qabbaan]

No.

[BossChief]

Jamaal Charles has 4 more attempts than McCoy and the Eagles are 7th in rushing attempts in the NFL.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Jamaal Charles has 4 more attempts than McCoy and the Eagles are 7th in rushing attempts in the NFL.

Michael Vick. Falcons were pretty much always number one when he was there.

[vailpass]

Yes. Shaw has NFL coaching experience and runs a pro-style offense at Stanford. He's worked under Jim Harbaugh, and has some Chiefs roots (loosely, albeit through his dad who coached in KC.)

And I think I remember you liking Rob Ryan at some point. I could be wrong, but Ryan would restore the aggressive, QB-killing defense we need.

If there is a fund being raised to ensure KC gets Stanford's coach I'll contribute whatever is necessary.

[mcaj22]

Id probably say that conservatively speaking 80% of the importance going forward with the Chiefs is finding and developing a franchise quarterback.

Not many guys better at that than Andy Reid that will be available.

this he makes any turd QB look average to decent in his scheme and flips them for players and picks

ill take that combo over what this team has been doing the last 4 years anyday

[CaliforniaChief]

JFC rochambeau

Ok, I'm just throwing out some names of guys that have caught my interest...who would you advocate for?

[BossChief]

The Eagles are currently running a 56/44 split favoring the pass.

Anybody trying to use a Mick Vick disclaimer needs to realize that Reid would be an idiot NOT TO DO THAT...Vick is a 4.3 guy.

Atlanta didn't use that kind of split to their playcalling.

[vailpass]

Perry Fewell deserves a look.

Indeed...

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[KC_Connection]

Reid has managed to underachieve with some of the most talented teams in the NFL over the last decade. I'll pass.

[mcaj22]

wasnt that Fewell guy dogshit in Buffalo

havent we learned anything from Romeo?

[Quesadilla Joe]

I don't get the love for McCoy here. I mean I wouldn't want to lose him because he has been here a while, but he's no Mike Shanahan.

He is good at making adjustments at half but man do his offenses start the game off slow. It's like he spends the entire first half just feeling the defense out and then comes out after halftime with a solid plan.

[TEX]

I just laugh at those who would have no interest in Reid, just like I do for Obama voters. ROFL

[BoneKrusher]

it's like this, he's better than the tub o' lard we have currently.

[petegz28]

He refuses to run the ball.

But, but, but.....this is a passing league now! :hmmm:

[petegz28]

Maybe not my first choice but definitely needs to be considered. Not sure who my #1 choice is as I am not aware of who will be available.

[Sure-Oz]

What about a college coach?

Oregons coach?

[In58men]

Nope

[kushed god]

Why don't we get my father-in-law Bill? - Scott

[petegz28]

What about a college coach?

Oregons coach?

Not liking that idea.

[Brock]

I just laugh at those who would have no interest in Reid, just like I do for Obama voters. ROFL

That must get tiring.

[kushed god]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DlkT3bUsDc&feature=plcp

he's laughing at the beginning, he does not take this job seriously. fat motherfucker

[FloridaMan88]

Andy Reid has a track record of drafting and successfully developing QB's.

That should be the #1 criteria for hiring a new head coach... do you have a track record for drafting and developing a franchise QB.

[doomy3]

Definitely wouldn't mind Reid. He certainly seems to understand the concept of getting a top QB, and he does a good job of developing them. It would be fun to see what he could do with Geno Smith if we can get him.

[Rausch]

He wouldn't be my first choice but he'd be light years better than the last 3...

[BossChief]

I'm thinking Reid may well be my top choice after taking a little time thinking about the alternatives.

Seriously, it NEEDS to be a guy that almost overvalues the QB position and has a history of developing them.

Who else would be a better fit for that?

[NJChiefsFan]

Think about what this guy has done.

The inaccurate McNabb, went to a SB. Resurrected Michael Vicks career before he turned back into a pumpkin (injury prone & turns the ball over). Had us thinking we missed on Nick Foles for a bit there.

He does not run it enough. He has a long enough track record to see he doesn't usually have a good balance. Not just balance, but knowing when to protect one aspect with the other. Also, if he gets credit for controlling Vick, shouldn't he receive some of the blame for his struggles? The team isn't exactly playing to potential and hasn't for the past two seasons.

I don't hate the guy, but he wouldn't be my choice.

[BossChief]

He wouldn't be my first choice but he'd be light years better than the last 3...

Who'd be your top choice and why would he be better than Reid?

What bugs you about Reid?

[ClevelandBronco]

I can't imagine why a coach with any other options would take a job with the Chiefs right now. The paycheck would have to be astronomical.

[BossChief]

He does not run it enough. Also, if he gets credit for controlling Vick, shouldn't he receive some of the blame for his struggles? The team isn't exactly playing to potential and hasn't for the past two seasons.

They are currently at a 56/44 split favoring the pass.

That's about as even as it gets in today's NFL.

[Rausch]

Who'd be your top choice and why would he be better than Reid?

What bugs you about Reid?

He needs the balance of a strong GM who can say no when necessary but at the same time collaborate with him to build his team.

We don't have one and I'm not sold Clark is ready to get one...

[DaneMcCloud]

What bugs you about Reid?

Passing 56% of the time versus 44% in the run game.

Poor defenses.

Poor coaching hires.

Awful personnel decisions.

Czar-like attitude (personnel, coaching , etc.).

No thanks.

[NJChiefsFan]

They are currently at a 56/44 split favoring the pass.

That's about as even as it gets in today's NFL.

How much of that is Vick? I know you pointed out that he should run Vick, but the guy hasn't been coaching for 2 years. He has shown he doesn't always have the correct balance. It's not just about how much, but when. I don't hate him, but I have on numerous times shaken my head at some of his decisions. Some of that may be due to the amount of time he has been in the league. The Eagles haven't exactly lived up to potential the past 2 years and thats not all because of Vick.

[BossChief]

I can't imagine why a coach with any other options would take a job with the Chiefs right now. The paycheck would have to be astronomical.

Pioli will be gone and this team will be like fresh clay to work with.

[ClevelandBronco]

Pioli will be gone and this team will be like fresh clay to work with.

And?

What? Blow? Chicks?

[NJChiefsFan]

I can't imagine why a coach with any other options would take a job with the Chiefs right now. The paycheck would have to be astronomical.

Crappy teams always manage to get coaches. There are 32 spots, that's it. Not to mention if they get a top pick that can be more attractive knowing you will have a chance at a QBOTF.

[Rausch]

And?

What? Blow? Chicks?

Those usually only come with winning teams.

I'm willing to make that concession...

[Reerun_KC]

Nah, would rather get someone younger and more passionate.

Dude has more baggage than a hooker...

[AussieChiefsFan]

On my shortlist.

[BossChief]

Passing 56% of the time versus 44% in the run game.

Poor defenses.

Poor coaching hires.

Awful personnel decisions.

Czar-like attitude (personnel, coaching , etc.).

No thanks.

That's one of the best ratios in the league.

I do think he would need to hire a strong DC that could handle the defense (one that runs a 3-4) and the team would need a GM that he could work with...if those get filled, we could be in for a quick turnaround.

[DaneMcCloud]

That's one of the best ratios in the league.

I do think he would need to hire a strong DC that could handle the defense (one that runs a 3-4) and the team would need a GM that he could work with...if those get filled, we could be in for a quick turnaround.

Reid won't work with a GM. He'll also bring his Philly cronies along so the Chiefs would go from the Patriot Way to being the Eagles west.

Again, no thanks.

[BossChief]

Reid won't work with a GM. He'll also bring his Philly cronies along so the Chiefs would go from the Patriot Way to being the Eagles west.

Again, no thanks.

Who is on your list?

[DaneMcCloud]

Who is on your list?

I don't have a list. I just know who I don't want.

:D

Plus, what I want is irrelevant. I'd rather discuss reality, not speculation.

[Titty Meat]

I don't have a list. I just know who I don't want.

:D

Plus, what I want is irrelevant. I'd rather discuss reality, not speculation.

Chud.

[chiefzilla1501]

No retreads please

[BossChief]

I don't have a list. I just know who I don't want.

:D

Plus, what I want is irrelevant. I'd rather discuss reality, not speculation.

Do you agree that getting a qb and developing him is this teams top requirement going forward?

[Rausch]

Do you agree that getting a qb and developing him is this teams top requirement going forward?

Has it not been the last 40 years?...

[DaneMcCloud]

Do you agree that getting a qb and developing him is this teams top requirement going forward?

No.

If you're taking a guy number one or two overall, he had better be 95% developed. At that point, it's the offensive coaching staff's responsibility to put the QB in a favorable position.

College QB's recently have proven that they don't need development, they need NFL experience.

[DaneMcCloud]

Chud.

Cam Newton and Carolina have taken a huge step backward this season.

I don't see him as a head coaching candidate.

[Rausch]

Cam Newton and Carolina have taken a huge step backward this season.

I don't see him as a head coaching candidate.

Stupidity is incurable.

I don't care how good a lion trainer you are you're still just a dumb-fuck that thinks he can make lions do what he wants...

[Fritz88]

As OC.
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[Rausch]

As OC.
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This...

[AussieChiefsFan]

As OC.
Posted via Mobile Device

:hmmm:

[ClevelandBronco]

Has it not been the last 40 years?...

And that's why they didn't do it. I mean, that guy would be like 62 years old now (even older if he was a Mormon, I suppose), and how many guys in their sixties have been successful quarterbacks in the NFL? The Chiefs actually dodged a bullet in that one. Smart personnel move.

[BossChief]

No.

If you're taking a guy number one or two overall, he had better be 95% developed. At that point, it's the offensive coaching staff's responsibility to put the QB in a favorable position.

College QB's recently have proven that they don't need development, they need NFL experience.

Well, Im sorry that you dont see that its possible the coaches they all got matched up with played a big role into how they were able to transition so quickly.

RG3 has Shannahan
Luck has Arians.
Tannehill has his college coach

[Rausch]

And that's why they didn't do it. I mean, that guy would be like 62 years old now (even older if he was a Mormon, I suppose), and how many guys in their sixties have been successful quarterbacks in the NFL? The Chiefs actually dodged a bullet in that one. Smart personnel move.

Not funny.

Plus random disrespectful comments about your family and things carnivores should do to your more protected parts...

[spanky 52]

No thanks. If we were to have a new regime, I'd hope they'd get a younger guy, somebody not in the good old boy network.

[jspchief]

I have no idea why people are trying to defend Reid's commitment to the run. He has a decade plus of undervaluing running the ball, regardless of what this year's current ratio is.

[FRCDFED]

When Norv Turner is fired, who would like him as OC?
This...count me in!

[Chief Gump]

http://gifs.gifbin.com/092009/1252938065_squirting-vomit.gif

I can't quit laughing... ROFL