Powerful photos from Chiefs-Raiders

[Hammock Parties]

Thought these deserved their own thread.

Death of a franchise.

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loooool

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:(

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the blackout begins

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nuh uh girlfriend

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good job, good effort

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oh snap

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BLACK IT OUT

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Fail, in a photo.

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Sorry Clark.

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Sorry Scott.

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[Phobia]

Oooh - there are some good ones in this batch.

[clyde05]

I think Clark knows he has to do what he doesn't want to do---fire Pioli.

[Phobia]

Those are some very disgusted looks on Clark's face... and some worried looks on Pioli's.

[Hammock Parties]

They don't look like two men who want to have a conversation.

[Hammock Parties]

Another angle of the sackheads.

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[booger]

Clark couldn't even look Pioli or Crennel in their eyes

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

Those photos say a lot !

[Phobia]

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"I don't think the fans are going to buy this Quinncussion story, Scott. He never even came close to hitting his head anywhere. You know C.E. Wendler is going to have every play giffed up."

[booger]

The next two games on national tv couldn't come at a better time. Perfect. Run that gauntlet Scott

[RunKC]

How fucking awesome would it be if Fat Scott got fired the day after the Steelers game? 2 national televised beatdowns could do it.
That's a dream scenario. Todd Haley ends Fat Scott's job as GM. :evil:LMAO

[booger]

don't they say it's best to fire people on a friday? This friday sounds good to me clark.

[kcxiv]

Clark looks pissed. Do it Clark. Its just a matter of time after the next 2 games. It has to be.

[BossChief]

How fucking awesome would it be if Fat Scott got fired the day after the Steelers game? 2 national televised beatdowns could do it.
That's a dream scenario. Todd Haley ends Fat Scott's job as GM. :evil:LMAO

Dont try to steal my thunder.

[NJChiefsFan]

There are some sick pictures there. Almost seems fake they are so perfect. I love the look on Romeo's face. "Oh shit Clark, you are gonna see the game today. I coached like nobody cared about how well I did."

I am not sure anyone could look more sad than Clark looks in that last picture.

[AussieChiefsFan]

Some incredible photos. Clark definitely looks dejected. I think it's inevitable now.

[Cheater5]

To me, it looks like Clark is checking his Blackberry while Pioli is trying to talk to him; "umm-hmm, umm...yep sounds good." In the second shot, where Pioli's face is blurred, I think he walked away knowing he was being ignored.

[PhillyChiefFan]

It's incredibly sad that this team has turned into this.

Where I live, most people are either Ravens, Giants, Steelers, or Eagles fans...it SUCKS being a Chiefs fan. At least in KC people have each other's shoulders to cry on...

[ChiefMojo]

Looks like they are attending a funeral. If I were Clark I wouldn't be able to look Pioli in the eyes either... ruined my franchise!

[memyselfI]

The banner is awesome. ROFL

[spanky 52]

Were the pictures of Pioli/Crennell with CHunt taken before or after the game?

[BlackHelicopters]

Clark has nice hair.

[the Talking Can]

"face it fans tightwad clark doesn't care"

ROFL

random flying slanders are now just a normal part of the Arrowhead game day experience...

[notorious]

"face it fans tightwad clark doesn't care"

ROFL

random flying slanders are now just a normal part of the Arrowhead game day experience...

Banner services in KC are loving the Pioli regime.

[Fire Me Boy!]

good job, good effort

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Are we gonna win today, Romeo?

I'm not exactly sure.

[In58men]

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She's a Chief fan

[BlackHelicopters]

six straight at home to the Raiders

[KChiefer]

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She's a Chief fan

Nice, Now I don't have to post this. Maybe that was her Halloween costume.

And damn! That's what the banner said? That's awesome!

[memyselfI]

"face it fans tightwad clark doesn't care"

ROFL

random flying slanders are now just a normal part of the Arrowhead game day experience...

So SOC didn't fly or pay for this one? OMG, the airspace over our stadium is going to look like the airspace over a Los Angles highway pretty soon...except it won't be helicopters. :clap:ROFL

[Easy 6]

Just, wow.

FIX IT CLARK

[whoman69]

"I don't think the fans are going to buy this Quinncussion story, Scott. He never even came close to hitting his head anywhere. You know C.E. Wendler is going to have every play giffed up."

They showed on replay he got his head slammed pretty good. There is no magic bullet. There is no Quinnspiracy.

[kepp]

don't they say it's best to fire people on a friday? This friday sounds good to me clark.

Just make sure to fix that payroll "glitch".

[scho63]

This video sums it.....

Kate: played by Chiefs fans
Michael: played by Pioli
Alejandro Sosa: played by Clark Hunt

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[Dartgod]

Were the pictures of Pioli/Crennell with CHunt taken before or after the game?

The one with Crennel has to be before the game. There are still Chiefs fans in the stands.

[Hammock Parties]

Were the pictures of Pioli/Crennell with CHunt taken before or after the game?

Before the game.

[BourbonMan]

Is this guy one of us...he took a pic of me holding my FIRE PIOLI sign..trying to find him, so he can send it to me.

[The Franchise]

McCluster got huge.

[Rain Man]

If I was Clark, that banner would've made me cry.

[gblowfish]

Men of few words:

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[FAX]

Clark has nice hair.

That, my friends, is a $200 haircut.

FAX

[Hammock Parties]

I think Clark is probably pissed at the tightwad banner. You think he likes being called a tightwad, and having it broadcast to the world?

He's mad, but not at the people flying it or the fans. He's pissed at Pioli.

That banner is there because of Pioli.

[mcaj22]

It's incredibly sad that this team has turned into this.

Where I live, most people are either Ravens, Giants, Steelers, or Eagles fans...it SUCKS being a Chiefs fan. At least in KC people have each other's shoulders to cry on...

i live in Harrisburg too

so there is at least two Chiefs fans in the area of Ravens, Giants, Steelers and Eagles hahaha

[MagicHef]

Clark's hair looks like a thatch roof.

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[HemiEd]

don't they say it's best to fire people on a friday? LAST friday sounds good to me clark.

fixed it for you

[stevieray]

six straight losses to the Fade, six years since Lamar died.

[HemiEd]

That, my friends, is a $200 haircut.

FAX

I had no idea there was such a thing as a $200 haircut. Do they have them as an option at "Snip and Drip?"

[FAX]

I had no idea there was such a thing as a $200 haircut. Do they have them as an option at "Snip and Drip?"

ROFL

Never been to one.

I used to go to a place in Toluca Lake that catered to the rich, famous and the aspiring, though. It cost me $140 for a scalp treatment, shampoo, and cut. Then, of course, the shampoo girl and the stylist and the eyebrow chick ... each of them ... expected at least a $20 tip, too.

These days, I get my haircuts at a place called "Bob's". 12 bucks and a 3 dollar tip and I'm good.

FAX

[JohnnyHammersticks]

Clark's hair looks like a thatch roof.

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ROFL

I think his hair looks freaking ridiculous, like he's a 12-yr old. He'd look better if he worked with my stylist (me). My stylist (me) would take a $15 pair of trimmers, set that baby on 1 or 2, and go to town for about 2 minutes. Then he'd be done, and the nubs on his freshly shaved scalp would feel so good to him that he'd be rubbing the top of his head for hours.

[Hammock Parties]

Clark does have weird, geekboy hair.

I bet he owns a pocket protector.

[MahiMike]

How ****ing awesome would it be if Fat Scott got fired the day after the Steelers game? 2 national televised beatdowns could do it.
That's a dream scenario. Todd Haley ends Fat Scott's job as GM. :evil:LMAO

ooh! I likey!:clap:

[MahiMike]

I got to see this game and was very disappointed in how full the stadium was.

[007]

I got to see this game and was very disappointed in how full the stadium was.

why? It is only going to get less full as the season goes on.

[wazu]

Wow. The Hunt-Pioli photos say a lot. The Hunt-Romeo photo does, too.

[HemiEd]

ROFL

Never been to one.

I used to go to a place in Toluca Lake that catered to the rich, famous and the aspiring, though. It cost me $140 for a scalp treatment, shampoo, and cut. Then, of course, the shampoo girl and the stylist and the eyebrow chick ... each of them ... expected at least a $20 tip, too.

These days, I get my haircuts at a place called "Bob's". 12 bucks and a 3 dollar tip and I'm good.

FAX
Wow, so you have been there, done that! Did your hair look as nice as Clark's when they were done?

Yeah, $15 every other month is the going rate for me, except I am a big tipper at $4.
However the haircut only costs $11 since it is so thin, and I am old. :D

[HemiEd]

I got to see this game and was very disappointed in how full the stadium was.

Yeah, it should have been emptier. :evil:

[Dave Lane]

How ****ing awesome would it be if Fat Scott got fired the day after the Steelers game? 2 national televised beatdowns could do it.
That's a dream scenario. Todd Haley ends Fat Scott's job as GM. :evil:LMAO

A dream kill shot...

[FAX]

Wow, so you have been there, done that! Did your hair look as nice as Clark's when they were done?

Yeah, $15 every other month is the going rate for me, except I am a big tipper at $4.
However the haircut only costs $11 since it is so thin, and I am old. :D

In retrospect, it was pretty stupid, Mr. HemiEd.

I have to admit, though, that the female clientele was, generally speaking, extremely hot. "Bob's" doesn't provide the same social opportunities but the conversation is actually far more intelligent.

FAX

[FAX]

A dream kill shot...

That would be perfect karma, in my opinion.

FAX

[Ace Gunner]

Wendler, you should email those fotos to the local tv media.

[Easy 6]

The look on Clarks face reminds me of one of those deeply worried shots you see of presidents in the oval office during some major crisis.

[Dave Lane]

That would be perfect karma, in my opinion.

FAX

Absolutely.

[Chief Pote]

Clark's hair looks like a thatch roof.

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You watch your mouth homey.

[FAX]

The shots of Dr. Evil and Clark are telling, indeed.

That is not the picture of two men who are getting along.

FAX

[HemiEd]

In retrospect, it was pretty stupid, Mr. HemiEd.

I have to admit, though, that the female clientele was, generally speaking, extremely hot. "Bob's" doesn't provide the same social opportunities but the conversation is actually far more intelligent.

FAX

Hey, we have all done stupid stuff and having extremely hot scenery is not always included. Good investment compared to many.

Over at the "Snip and Drip" I get an occasional quick "tata shoulder rub" from the goth girl, but the conversation is extremely lacking.

[Red Dawg]

Cinci game will be one empty seated affair.

[BigCatDaddy]

Pioli is a dead ringer for Fred Rutherford (Lumpy's Dad on leave it Beaver for you youngins)

[gblowfish]

Pioli is a dead ringer for Fred Rutherford (Lumpy's Dad on leave it Beaver for you youngins)

Yes, he also played Mel Cooley, the boss, on the Dick Van Dyke Show.

[Simply Red]

Clark has nice hair.

it's okay - it needs shaping for his face profile, which is that of a peanut turd.

[htismaqe]

"face it fans tightwad clark doesn't care"

ROFL

random flying slanders are now just a normal part of the Arrowhead game day experience...

I hope that one doesn't get credited to SOC.

[Easy 6]

I hope that one doesn't get credited to SOC.

Hopefully, Marty makes that crystal clear while he's on the radio.

[FAX]

Hopefully, Marty makes that crystal clear while he's on the radio.

Yep ... he and all the others have tried so hard to stay on the high road, it would be a shame to be inadvertently dragged down.

FAX

[boogblaster]

its a sad state .....

[Messier]

Pioli is a dead ringer for Fred Rutherford (Lumpy's Dad on leave it Beaver for you youngins)

Isn't that also Mel Cooley from Dick Van Dyke?

[Halfcan]

pioli is saying-"Go ahead- try to fire me biatch- my golden parachute will put a huge dent in your piggy bank-lol""

[Dayze]

I did not know about the other banner. Lol. Nice

[Dayze]

Is this guy one of us...he took a pic of me holding my FIRE PIOLI sign..trying to find him, so he can send it to me.

Who's the black guy on the left?

[Dayze]

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"so, yeah Clark. I just wanted to let you know that as of today, by still being the GM, I'm due a $800,000 performance bonus. Obviously, I didn't want to draw a lot of attention to this or embarrass the you or the franchise in any way. I also know how much you hate email and Google Chat. So, I've taken the liberty of writing down the terms of the specific portion of the contractual terms associated with the bonus on this Kit Kat wrapper. Oh, and if you could be so kind as to throw that away on your way out.. thanks Clark. See you next weekend"

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Clark : I hate that guy
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[Omaha]

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The people behind you did not pay to have you block their view... and the sun.

or

Shouldn't that banner be behind that blimp?

or

This pig-bitch did her part to fill Arrowhead with Chiefs' fans!

or

LOL!

[petegz28]

You really gonna fire me, you little twerp???
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STFU before I let the fans break your legs
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[Dayze]

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The people behind you did not pay to have you block their view... and the sun.

or

Shouldn't that banner be behind that blimp?

or

This pig-bitch did her part to fill Arrowhead with Chiefs' fans!

or

LOL!


LMAO
....ok, that shit is funny

[Dayze]

ClArk has the same lok that I have on my face when I do my taxes.
....and that expression is followed by "....SMH......un-ficking-believable"

[Easy 6]

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The people behind you did not pay to have you block their view... and the sun.

or

Shouldn't that banner be behind that blimp?

or

This pig-bitch did her part to fill Arrowhead with Chiefs' fans!

or

LOL!

omaha

[shaggyshane]

Great pictures! Thanks for the post. Clark lookes pissed.

[BourbonMan]

Doing my part to get the word out, via my Car.

[FAX]

Excellent work, Mr. BourbonMan.

And with that sign placement, the odds are pretty good that you will soon run over him in the street.

FAX

[GoChiefz]

There's no way we can beat the Chargers this week hello 1-7 :(

[HemiEd]

Excellent work, Mr. BourbonMan.

And with that sign placement, the odds are pretty good that you will soon run over him in the street.

FAX
ROFL

[Rasputin]

[QUOTE=Cassel's Reckoning;9061422]Thought these deserved their own thread.


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This picture is just awesome. Love it.

[lewdog]

So that isn't a photoshopped banner, Clay????

Can anyone besides Clay confirm this???

ROFL

[Hammock Parties]

Not photoshopped. Shots of that were tweeted before the game.

[Ace Gunner]

This I like -- prove it wrong Clark
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[lewdog]

Not photoshopped. Shots of that were tweeted before the game.

:thumb::clap:

This I like -- prove it wrong Clark
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This is where I wish Clark actually had a bigger ego and would take this to heart. But Clark isn't that type of guy, he doesn't have an ego. He looks at it like a business and as long as he isn't in the red, he won't care.

[suzzer99]

I didn't even care that we got beat at home by the Raiders. That's something I've never felt in 30+ years of being a Chiefs fan. Way to kill one of the best rivalries in sports Pioli, you arrogant ******* douchebag egomaniac ****.

[Ace Gunner]

This is where I wish Clark actually had a bigger ego and would take this to heart. But Clark isn't that type of guy, he doesn't have an ego. He looks at it like a business and as long as he isn't in the red, he won't care.

Agreed.

[Hammock Parties]

The only game we have won against Oakland in the last 3 seasons....Kyle Boller started.

[listopencil]

WTF is going on with the Joker get up in that pic?

[Phobia]

This I like -- prove it wrong Clark
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He didn't prove it wrong 4 years ago when he went out and bought the NFL's golden boy to be GM?

[FAX]

Yeah ... I have to say that, in spite of the hyperbole we hear all the time, there's no clear evidence that Clark is a "tightwad". For all we know, he has been true to his word that he gave Pioli the freedom to spend money as he sees fit.

And, Mr. Phobia is right. Clark certainly didn't skimp on Pioli's salary.

I remain convinced that Clark wants to win. I think that's why he hired Pioli in the first place (unaware, of course, of Dr. Evil's alter-ego) and why he was willing to listen to Dr. Evil's advice to sign Cassel long-term and pay out the nose for Tyson Jackson. I'm further convinced that Carr left because Carr wanted out (and he's a Herm draft pick which means Pioli is less motivated to keep him), not because Clark was unwilling to part with the moolah-ha.

At this point, I think the scrooge label is unfair. Or, at a minimum, premature.

FAX

[BossChief]

Clark has written the checks. Pioli has given them to the wrong people.

120 million in contracts to Tyson Jackson (57 million) and Matt Cassel (63 million)

Scott Pioli let Carr and Orton walk in the same offseason he restructured Tyson Jacksons contract in a way that he will make 22 million this year and next.

[x]
4/21/2012: Signed a two-year, $21.97 million contract. The deal contains $4 million guaranteed, including a $2.5 million option bonus. Another $500,000 is available through playing-time incentives.

How is that even possible?

That RIGHT THERE is PROOF that Clark has given Scott Pioli a fucking blank check to run this team and Pioli is clueless as to how to go about building a winner.

The guy makes a terrible pick taking the guy and then, doubles down on the fail by restructuring him for more money. All while letting a superior player (Shaun Smith) walk for PEANUTS.

The guy makes a failed trade for Matt Cassel and doubles down on the fail by not even
attempting to sign or draft an upgrade to the pos. While letting a superior player walk for QB peanuts.

[Phobia]

"doubles down"

[007]

I didn't even care that we got beat at home by the Raiders. That's something I've never felt in 30+ years of being a Chiefs fan. Way to kill one of the best rivalries in sports Pioli, you arrogant ******* douchebag egomaniac ****.

ABsolutely THIS. I was there yucking it up with a Raider fan right behind me. The whole game was nothing but a joke. But I yelled and screamed until it was clear the Chiefs were not going to do anything. That was about 10 seconds into the 3rd qtr.

[Rasputin]

I think Clark feels just as duped as evey one here about Pioli. He looked at the rings Pioli had with NE and had a gleam in his eye for the Lambardi trophi. No way could he have forsaw this debacle comming, now he has to figure out just what to do but also has to figure out where it all went wrong and I don't think he wants to make the same mistake twice so he is taking his time to figure out just what to do imo.


Clark has stood up to the media for the fans after the Eric Winston comments. Clark is on our side I believe he is and wants this thing turned around or jobs will replaced. He has nothing to gain by keeping Pioli only butthurt fans to listen too and that is going to play into his desision along the way. Can't tell me he doesn't want a rocking Arrowhead Stadium after the rebuild and cost of the stadium he spent on that. I feel for Clark right now, he is a victom of being duped along with a fan base that at the time was just happy that Carl Peterson was fired and any one we got was going be a God send. How can we do worse than Herm? Well we got Romeo Crennell that's how. Scott Pioli has done all he could do to bring in guys he was familiar with to stay in his comfort zone and do it his way. That's how we got in this mess.

[007]

I think Clark feels just as duped as evey one here about Pioli. He looked at the rings Pioli had with NE and had a gleam in his eye for the Lambardi trophi. No way could he have forsaw this debacle comming, now he has to figure out just what to do but also has to figure out where it all went wrong and I don't think he wants to make the same mistake twice so he is taking his time to figure out just what to do imo.


Clark has stood up to the media for the fans after the Eric Winston comments. Clark is on our side I believe he is and wants this thing turned around or jobs will replaced. He has nothing to gain by keeping Pioli only butthurt fans to listen too and that is going to play into his desision along the way. Can't tell me he doesn't want a rocking Arrowhead Stadium after the rebuild and cost of the stadium he spent on that. I feel for Clark right now, he is a victom of being duped along with a fan base that at the time was just happy that Carl Peterson was fired and any one we got was going be a God send. How can we do worse than Herm? Well we got Romeo Crennell that's how. Scott Pioli has done all he could do to bring in guys he was familiar with to stay in his comfort zone and do it his way. That's how we got in this mess.

This is the same owner that wanted to keep Herm around when Pioli was hired.

[Rasputin]

This is the same owner that wanted to keep Herm around when Pioli was hired.

In this case I think it's that they shared the same belief in building the team through the draft. That's how I think it should be done but starts with the QB from the draft. Herms problems were game day but he was good at the draft. The proof there is the guys that were left over are still our best players. I'd take Herm over Romeo Crennel.

A big problem Herm had was our O-line got old and Carl Peterson didn't address this problem before it became a problem. They thought they all had another season in them but then Roaf and Shields retired too they weren't prepared for that.

I kind of wish we could have kept Herm for bringing in players and getting a top QB. Herm was a better coach than the team he was given at the time. He got us to the playoffs, he won playoff games with the Jets did he not? So yeah I think Herm is better than what we have had since. I don't want him back don't get me wrong, but his teams wearn't getting blown out on a consistant bases either like they have been the last couple of years.

[007]

In this case I think it's that they shared the same belief in building the team through the draft. That's how I think it should be done but starts with the QB from the draft. Herms problems were game day but he was good at the draft. The proof there is the guys that were left over are still our best players. I'd take Herm over Romeo Crennel.

A big problem Herm had was our O-line got old and Carl Peterson didn't address this problem before it became a problem. They thought they all had another season in them but then Roaf and Shields retired too they weren't prepared for that.

I kind of wish we could have kept Herm for bringing in players and getting a top QB. Herm was a better coach than the team he was given at the time. He got us to the playoffs, he won playoff games with the Jets did he not? So yeah I think Herm is better than what we have had since. I don't want him back don't get me wrong, but his teams wearn't getting blown out on a consistant bases either like they have been the last couple of years.

Herm for GM then. Drafting was the only thing he was good for as a Chief.

[TEX]

ABsolutely THIS. I was there yucking it up with a Raider fan right behind me. The whole game was nothing but a joke. But I yelled and screamed until it was clear the Chiefs were not going to do anything. That was about 10 seconds into the 3rd qtr.

Yep. At my house the game was just background noise. Didn't really watch or care. THAT has NEVER happened before for a Raider game.

[Warrior5]

Does anyone else hear piano music, then Chuck Barris saying, "It's Gene, Gene, the Dancing Machine!"

http://media.kansascity.com/smedia/2012/10/28/20/39/1pIixX.SlMa.81.jpeg

[Calcountry]

"face it fans tightwad clark doesn't care"

ROFL

random flying slanders are now just a normal part of the Arrowhead game day experience...Heck, you have to have some reason to go to the game.