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Mr. Laz
10-31-2012, 12:01 PM
GREAT BLUE NORTH DRAFT REPORT
NEWS AND INFORMATION ON THE NFL DRAFT
UPDATED WEEKLY 2013 FIRST-ROUND SELECTION ORDER

GBN PRE-SEASON DRAFT GUIDE

The 11th edition of the annual Geat Blue North Fall Draft Guide with profiles of over 200 of the top prospects for the 2013 draft is now available. And in getting with the times - not to mention making the whole thing economically feasible what with rising printing and postage costs - this year’s edition is being delivered electronically.

October 30, 2012

P Indicates final seletion position TBD by playoff results
F indicates positions TBD by coin flip

* Note that the opponent's cumulative W-L record is based on each team's full 16-game schedule and no just on the games they have played to date.


Team ___ W-L Opp W-L %
1 Kansas City 1-6 .478
2 Carolina 1-6 .522
3 Jacksonville 1-6 .559
4 Cleveland 2-6.500
5 New Orleans 2-5 .509
6 St. Louis (from Washington) 3-5 .504
7 NY Jets 3-5 .521
8 Tennessee 3-5 .543
9 St. Louis 3-5 .553
10 Oakland3-4.425
11 San Diego3-4 .443
12 Cincinnati 3-4 .457
13 Tampa Bay3-4.466
14 Buffalo 3-4 .475
15 Philadelphia3-4 .492
16 Dallas3-4.517
17 Detroit3-4 .603
18 Seattle 4-4.525
19 Arizona 4-4574
20 Pittsburgh 4-3 .441
21P Denver 4-3 .439
22P Indianapolis4-3.479
23P Miami4-3 .48824P
24 New England 5-3 .504
25P Minnesota5-3 .542
26P Green Bay5-3.558
27P Baltimore 5-2 .470
28P NY Giants 6-2 .479
29P San Francisco 6-2 .520
30P Chicago 6-1 .504
31P Houston 6-1 .500
32P Atlanta 7-0 .391

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L.A. Chieffan
10-31-2012, 12:03 PM
Worse case scenario we finish 4-12 and end up with about the 4 or 5 slot. Probably around 7 or 8 tho

Chief Roundup
10-31-2012, 12:12 PM
There are not 4 teams worse than we are let alone 7.

Mr. Laz
10-31-2012, 12:17 PM
There are not 4 teams worse than we are let alone 7.completely irrelevant

they don't base it on who is worse, it's strictly numbers.

if we grab a few meaningless, cheap wins at the end of the year we could drop like a stone in the draft.

Jags,Cleveland are not going to win much


gotta root for all the 1 and 2 win teams to snag as many victories as possible.

BigCatDaddy
10-31-2012, 12:18 PM
Wow. Only 5 times don't have 3 wins at this point. New Orleans will win more for sure. We won't win anymore then 3. We are pretty much guaranteed a top 3 pick. Jacksonville and Cleveland worry me a bit though.

Mr. Laz
10-31-2012, 12:22 PM
Wow. Only 5 times don't have 3 wins at this point. New Orleans will win more for sure. We won't win anymore then 3. We are pretty much guaranteed a top 3 pick. Jacksonville and Cleveland worry me a bit though.i don't know.

I keep expecting New Orleans to win and they keep looking like shit. Their schedule isn't getting any easier either.

Sweet Daddy Hate
10-31-2012, 12:26 PM
Just gotta' keep sucking!

htismaqe
10-31-2012, 12:29 PM
Wow. Only 5 times don't have 3 wins at this point. New Orleans will win more for sure. We won't win anymore then 3. We are pretty much guaranteed a top 3 pick. Jacksonville and Cleveland worry me a bit though.

We play both of them so they will both have at least 1 more win.

Mr. Laz
10-31-2012, 12:39 PM
We play both of them so they will both have at least 1 more win.
huh?

we play cleveland and carolina but we don't play jacksonville.


already played new orleans and actually got our only win.


Week 09 @ San Diego Chargers
Week 10@ Pittsburgh Steelers
Week 11Cincinnati Bengals
Week 12Denver Broncos
Week 13Carolina Panthers
Week 14@ Cleveland Browns
Week 15@ Oakland Raiders
Week 16Indianapolis Colts
Week 17@ Denver Broncos

RealSNR
10-31-2012, 12:39 PM
We play both of them so they will both have at least 1 more win.
We don't play Jacksonville.

KCUnited
10-31-2012, 12:42 PM
Keep turning that ball over, mang.

RealSNR
10-31-2012, 12:44 PM
After we lose to Carolina, they will pose no threat to us. We got them easily beat in terms of opponents win percentage.

Jacksonville's the big one, but after the way I saw this play against Green Bay, they are still grittily fighting it out to the end. They haven't given up like we have. Check out their schedule:

DET @ JAC
IND @ JAC
JAC @ HOU
TEN @ JAC
JAC @ BUF
NYJ @ JAC
JAC @ MIA
NE @ JAC
JAC @ TEN

There aren't exactly any pushovers, but for a team that runs the ball and plays defense, they'll get one or two division wins out of that. I'd say one against the Titans and one against the Colts. Also, don't sleep on a possible upset victory against the Jets or Bills.

The Chiefs aren't in the clear yet, but we're definitely in the driver's seat

Mr. Laz
10-31-2012, 12:46 PM
After we lose to Carolina, they will pose no threat to us. We got them easily beat in terms of opponents win percentage.

Jacksonville's the big one, but after the way I saw this play against Green Bay, they are still grittily fighting it out to the end. They haven't given up like we have. Check out their schedule:

DET @ JAC
IND @ JAC
JAC @ HOU
TEN @ JAC
JAC @ BUF
NYJ @ JAC
JAC @ MIA
NE @ JAC
JAC @ TEN

There aren't exactly any pushovers, but for a team that runs the ball and plays defense, they'll get one or two division wins out of that. I'd say one against the Titans and one against the Colts. Also, don't sleep on a possible upset victory against the Jets or Bills.

The Chiefs aren't in the clear yet, but we're definitely in the driver's seat
indy@jac
tenn@jac
@miami

hopefully they will grab a win or 2

Mugalug
10-31-2012, 12:48 PM
After we lose to Carolina, they will pose no threat to us. We got them easily beat in terms of opponents win percentage.

Jacksonville's the big one, but after the way I saw this play against Green Bay, they are still grittily fighting it out to the end. They haven't given up like we have. Check out their schedule:

DET @ JAC
IND @ JAC
JAC @ HOU
TEN @ JAC
JAC @ BUF
NYJ @ JAC
JAC @ MIA
NE @ JAC
JAC @ TEN

There aren't exactly any pushovers, but for a team that runs the ball and plays defense, they'll get one or two division wins out of that. I'd say one against the Titans and one against the Colts. Also, don't sleep on a possible upset victory against the Jets or Bills.

The Chiefs aren't in the clear yet, but we're definitely in the driver's seat

It feels good for the Chiefs to be the best at something.

The_Doctor10
10-31-2012, 12:50 PM
After we lose to Carolina, they will pose no threat to us. We got them easily beat in terms of opponents win percentage.

Jacksonville's the big one, but after the way I saw this play against Green Bay, they are still grittily fighting it out to the end. They haven't given up like we have. Check out their schedule:

DET @ JAC
IND @ JAC
JAC @ HOU
TEN @ JAC
JAC @ BUF
NYJ @ JAC
JAC @ MIA
NE @ JAC
JAC @ TEN

There aren't exactly any pushovers, but for a team that runs the ball and plays defense, they'll get one or two division wins out of that. I'd say one against the Titans and one against the Colts. Also, don't sleep on a possible upset victory against the Jets or Bills.

The Chiefs aren't in the clear yet, but we're definitely in the driver's seat

Cleveland isn't going to draft a QB. Jacksonville won't finish worse than KC. Carolina isn't going to draft a QB. So the Chiefs are more than likely going to get whoever their man is, especially as long as Captain Fuckwit keeps playing.

RealSNR
10-31-2012, 12:51 PM
Eesh. I just realized how CRUCIAL that extra win against San Diego was for Cleveland. Look at their remaining schedule:

BAL @ CLE
‎CLE @ DAL
PIT @ CLE
CLE @ OAK
KC @ CLE
WAS @ CLE
‎CLE @ DEN
‎CLE @ PIT

Thankfully their win percentage kicks our asses and we have a game of breathing room. So pretty much as long as we lose to them, we have 3 games between us. We're safe. If we beat them, however, then we're down to only one game of space (since we own the tiebreaker). Cleveland probably isn't going to cut us any more favors by beating teams they shouldn't, which means we need to run the table on the rest of our losses.

I would really love an unprecedented Cleveland victory this Sunday. Just to ease any nervousness or fear that I might have.

Mr. Laz
10-31-2012, 12:53 PM
Cleveland isn't going to draft a QB. Jacksonville won't finish worse than KC. Carolina isn't going to draft a QB. So the Chiefs are more than likely going to get whoever their man is, especially as long as Captain Fuckwit keeps playing.
completely irrelevant

Even if they don't draft a QB they can just trade down with somebody that does want a QB.

htismaqe
10-31-2012, 01:00 PM
huh?

we play cleveland and carolina but we don't play jacksonville.


already played new orleans and actually got our only win.


Week 09 @ San Diego Chargers
Week 10@ Pittsburgh Steelers
Week 11Cincinnati Bengals
Week 12Denver Broncos
Week 13Carolina Panthers
Week 14@ Cleveland Browns
Week 15@ Oakland Raiders
Week 16Indianapolis Colts
Week 17@ Denver Broncos

Yeah, got Jax and CHRL mixed up.

Mr. Arrowhead
10-31-2012, 01:01 PM
Last 5 weeks scare me, it pretty weak, especially if Denver rest their starters in Week 17

Mr. Laz
10-31-2012, 01:02 PM
Last 5 weeks scare me, it pretty weak, especially if Denver rest their starters in Week 17
at least 3 out of 5 are on the road

Newton should scramble/run for 100 yrds

we can't handle TE/RB in coverage or a running QB worth a shit.

Bump
10-31-2012, 01:04 PM
There are not 4 teams worse than we are let alone 7.

http://i1106.photobucket.com/albums/h361/Bump4/gifs/HnAVJ.gif

Bump
10-31-2012, 01:05 PM
Cleveland isn't going to draft a QB. Jacksonville won't finish worse than KC. Carolina isn't going to draft a QB. So the Chiefs are more than likely going to get whoever their man is, especially as long as Captain ****wit keeps playing.

they'd be somewhat likely to trade it to a team that does want a QB though

RealSNR
10-31-2012, 01:06 PM
Cleveland isn't going to draft a QB. Jacksonville won't finish worse than KC. Carolina isn't going to draft a QB. So the Chiefs are more than likely going to get whoever their man is, especially as long as Captain Fuckwit keeps playing.
Ordinarily I'd be relieved with that arrangement, but there are so many teams like Buffalo, the Jets, the Raiders, and even the Saints who are currently sucking dick and would be tempted to trade in front of us to grab the best QB. Yeah, it wouldn't be too pricey at all for KC to trade up to the #1 spot themselves just to assure that they get the top QB, but we all know how this organization operates. Sit back, play conservative, let the other teams make the bold moves, and then get caught with your pants down, where you tell the fans, "Gee, there just weren't any QBs available where we picked. Shucks. Oh well."

I know beggars can't be choosers, but fuck. If we're going to do this losing thing, let's do it the right way and get the best QB in the draft. And let's conserve our picks, too. Go all out. Get the #1 pick by losing the most games. Then draft the fuck out of this shit with our fancy new GM. And fucking WIN!

htismaqe
10-31-2012, 01:22 PM
at least 3 out of 5 are on the road

Newton should scramble/run for 100 yrds

we can't handle TE/RB in coverage or a running QB worth a shit.

Yep. Carolina is bad but they're built to beat us.

Fritz88
10-31-2012, 01:43 PM
Gonna be tough to keep the one overall pick..
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The_Doctor10
10-31-2012, 01:46 PM
Ordinarily I'd be relieved with that arrangement, but there are so many teams like Buffalo, the Jets, the Raiders, and even the Saints who are currently sucking dick and would be tempted to trade in front of us to grab the best QB. Yeah, it wouldn't be too pricey at all for KC to trade up to the #1 spot themselves just to assure that they get the top QB, but we all know how this organization operates. Sit back, play conservative, let the other teams make the bold moves, and then get caught with your pants down, where you tell the fans, "Gee, there just weren't any QBs available where we picked. Shucks. Oh well."

I know beggars can't be choosers, but ****. If we're going to do this losing thing, let's do it the right way and get the best QB in the draft. And let's conserve our picks, too. Go all out. Get the #1 pick by losing the most games. Then draft the **** out of this shit with our fancy new GM. And ****ing WIN!

I feel like the Saints are going to use their pick on the best MLB available and give their defense a heart and soul for the next 10 years.

The Jets and Bills might do something, but I don't see a scenario when KC doesn't have a look at at least two legitimate QB prospects. Maybe not Geno Smith, but Barkley and Wilson will for sure be options.

RealSNR
10-31-2012, 01:50 PM
Gonna be tough to keep the one overall pick..
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We're currently firmly in the best position. It might be tough, but no other team has the advantages that we do right now.

We can pretty much call this thing fucking over right now if Cleveland and Jacksonville both win just one more game. Even if they don't cooperate, our team is terrible enough that 1-15 isn't all that unlikely relatively speaking.

Saccopoo
10-31-2012, 01:50 PM
I feel like the Saints are going to use their pick on the best MLB available and give their defense a heart and soul for the next 10 years.

The Jets and Bills might do something, but I don't see a scenario when KC doesn't have a look at at least two legitimate QB prospects. Maybe not Geno Smith, but Barkley and Wilson will for sure be options.

There is no option other than Geno.

I'm not going through the 1983 bullshit again and end up with Blackledge ver. 2.

Geno or bust!

KCDC
10-31-2012, 01:57 PM
I'm using my NFL Ticket to watch the Chiefs; but, also to watch and cheer on Carolina, JAX and Cleveland. I watched Cleveland beat SD last week and it was fun.

RealSNR
10-31-2012, 01:57 PM
I feel like the Saints are going to use their pick on the best MLB available and give their defense a heart and soul for the next 10 years.

The Jets and Bills might do something, but I don't see a scenario when KC doesn't have a look at at least two legitimate QB prospects. Maybe not Geno Smith, but Barkley and Wilson will for sure be options.
That's all well and good, but I don't fucking want Barkley or Wilson. That's all this franchise has ever fucking done is accept circumstances for what they are instead of demanding the superior option.

Sorry, we're all out of chocolate cake. Do you want apple strudel instead?

Sorry, we're all out of Matt Ryan. Would you like some Glenn Dorsey?

Sorry, we're all out of Matt Stafford. How about a nice 5-tech?

Oops, looks like RGIII isn't going to fall to us. That's okay. There's always Dontari Poe.

Fuck. That.

No more. I'm sick of this shit. Geno Smith is the most talented QB in the draft. He's got this highest ceiling, and likely has the best shot at turning this fucking shit show around and pointing them in the direction of a goddamn Super Bowl.

RealSNR
10-31-2012, 01:58 PM
There is no option other than Geno.

I'm not going through the 1983 bullshit again and end up with Blackledge ver. 2.

Geno or bust!

Or I could have just said this and used fewer words.

DaneMcCloud
10-31-2012, 02:08 PM
I would be absolutely stunned if the Colts and/or Miami lose to Jacksonville. Both are ascending teams with ascending quarterbacks.

Jacksonville, like the Chiefs, will be lucky to win another game at this point.

RealSNR
10-31-2012, 02:16 PM
I would be absolutely stunned if the Colts and/or Miami lose to Jacksonville. Both are ascending teams with ascending quarterbacks.

Jacksonville, like the Chiefs, will be lucky to win another game at this point.

They have two games against Tennessee coming up. They'll win one of those. Tennessee is shitty farty rapey licky rapey against the run.

I'm also thinking the Jaguars can beat any other team with a less-than-stout run D. The Jets game will be interesting. I'm thinking that could very well be a Jacksonville victory especially if the Jets have finally given up.

Mr. Laz
10-31-2012, 02:20 PM
Gonna be tough to keep the one overall pick..
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we only have 1 win and we also win the tiebreaker will all the other 1/2 win teams.

we would have to the faiders jump up to lose the tiebreaker.

Saccopoo
10-31-2012, 02:21 PM
And there is another Tebow to Jacksonville trade thing that's just getting floated around.

Trade deadline got pushed back to Thursday, so I'll be holding my breath that Khan truly decided that he wants some seats filled in his stadium and they make the trade for Tebow the next two days.

If the Jaguars trade for Tebow, then I would put them out of the running for a QB in the draft. And, like I said on the Draft Planet, the Jaguars have the worst pass rush in the entire league. They are horrible. Trade for Tebow and then take either Jarvis Jones or Barkevious Mingo. Its a win-win-win for both the Chiefs and the Jags.

The_Doctor10
10-31-2012, 02:49 PM
That's all well and good, but I don't ****ing want Barkley or Wilson. That's all this franchise has ever ****ing done is accept circumstances for what they are instead of demanding the superior option.

Sorry, we're all out of chocolate cake. Do you want apple strudel instead?

Sorry, we're all out of Matt Ryan. Would you like some Glenn Dorsey?

Sorry, we're all out of Matt Stafford. How about a nice 5-tech?

Oops, looks like RGIII isn't going to fall to us. That's okay. There's always Dontari Poe.

****. That.

No more. I'm sick of this shit. Geno Smith is the most talented QB in the draft. He's got this highest ceiling, and likely has the best shot at turning this ****ing shit show around and pointing them in the direction of a goddamn Super Bowl.

I'm convinced. Go geno.

DaneMcCloud
10-31-2012, 02:57 PM
They have two games against Tennessee coming up. They'll win one of those. Tennessee is shitty farty rapey licky rapey against the run.

I'm also thinking the Jaguars can beat any other team with a less-than-stout run D. The Jets game will be interesting. I'm thinking that could very well be a Jacksonville victory especially if the Jets have finally given up.

Who's running the ball for Jacksonville in MJD's absence? They're 27th in the league in rushing with only 86.9 yards per game?

Titty Meat
10-31-2012, 03:09 PM
Chiefs have 3 or 4 more winnable games. I think they win a couple.

Bewbies
10-31-2012, 03:12 PM
We have gone 7 games and have yet to have a lead. That is nearly impossible to do, and yet here we are.

Without dramatic changes this team won't even sniff another win.

DaneMcCloud
10-31-2012, 03:14 PM
Chiefs have 3 or 4 more winnable games. I think they win a couple.

Come on, Dude. How are they going to win when they can't cover anyone, they can't stop anyone on the ground, they can't score touchdowns and they give away the ball four times a game?

I'm sure people in Detroit thought the same thing in 2008 but it just isn't going to happen.

1-15.

Titty Meat
10-31-2012, 03:24 PM
Come on, Dude. How are they going to win when they can't cover anyone, they can't stop anyone on the ground, they can't score touchdowns and they give away the ball four times a game?

I'm sure people in Detroit thought the same thing in 2008 but it just isn't going to happen.

1-15.

They almost beat Baltimore a few weeks ago. The Browns and Panthers aren't good. Anyway who gives a shit? I hope they lose all their games but when has this franchise ever done the right thing?

Chief Roundup
10-31-2012, 03:50 PM
completely irrelevant

they don't base it on who is worse, it's strictly numbers.

if we grab a few meaningless, cheap wins at the end of the year we could drop like a stone in the draft.

Jags,Cleveland are not going to win much


gotta root for all the 1 and 2 win teams to snag as many victories as possible.

http://i1106.photobucket.com/albums/h361/Bump4/gifs/HnAVJ.gif

I was responding to LAChieffan. Not the OP

DaneMcCloud
10-31-2012, 03:53 PM
They almost beat Baltimore a few weeks ago. The Browns and Panthers aren't good. Anyway who gives a shit? I hope they lose all their games but when has this franchise ever done the right thing?

Baltimore played their worst and most uninspired game of this season, yet they were in no danger of losing. The Browns are playing tough football and that game is in Cleveland. The Panthers have a QB and good defense that barely lost to a 6-1 team.

But regardless of all of that: How any you, or anyone for that matter, believe that this Chiefs team will beat anyone left on their schedule?

We're talking a historically awful football team that isn't getting any better and most likely, will decline even further after each game.

007
10-31-2012, 03:55 PM
Come on, Dude. How are they going to win when they can't cover anyone, they can't stop anyone on the ground, they can't score touchdowns and they give away the ball four times a game?

I'm sure people in Detroit thought the same thing in 2008 but it just isn't going to happen.

1-15.

You forget, the Chiefs can't do anything right. They will pick up at least 2 meaningless wins before the season ends.

DaneMcCloud
10-31-2012, 03:56 PM
You forget, the Chiefs can't do anything right. They will pick up at least 2 meaningless wins before the season ends.

I don't think so, Dude. They're getting worse each week and have shown no signs of improvement in any facet of the game.

007
10-31-2012, 03:58 PM
I don't think so, Dude. They're getting worse each week and have shown no signs of improvement in any facet of the game.

I just pray that if they get the number 1 pick in the draft they don't do something stupid.

milkman
10-31-2012, 06:46 PM
I just pray that if they get the number 1 pick in the draft they don't do something stupid.

Like let Scott Pioli make the selection.

aturnis
10-31-2012, 07:44 PM
After we lose to Carolina, they will pose no threat to us. We got them easily beat in terms of opponents win percentage.

Jacksonville's the big one, but after the way I saw this play against Green Bay, they are still grittily fighting it out to the end. They haven't given up like we have. Check out their schedule:

DET @ JAC
IND @ JAC
JAC @ HOU
TEN @ JAC
JAC @ BUF
NYJ @ JAC
JAC @ MIA
NE @ JAC
JAC @ TEN

There aren't exactly any pushovers, but for a team that runs the ball and plays defense, they'll get one or two division wins out of that. I'd say one against the Titans and one against the Colts. Also, don't sleep on a possible upset victory against the Jets or Bills.

The Chiefs aren't in the clear yet, but we're definitely in the driver's seat

I'd say every game outside of Houston and NE is a toss up...

They've been in most of their games this year. Getting abused by Houston, Cincy, and Chicago.

bricks
10-31-2012, 09:51 PM
At the rate the Chiefs are going now, they will end up with the number 1 pick in the draft. That is in thanks to having the worst coaching staff in the league.

I can't see them winning another game. I think they're 1-15 bad. The team has mailed it in and won't compete with anybody. Their level of competition is so inept, I can't see anybody who is worse.

I have been watching games around the league and nobody is as bad as the Chiefs. I mean nobody.

AussieChiefsFan
10-31-2012, 09:58 PM
Well we,re getting there

BigChiefFan
11-01-2012, 12:07 AM
Don't fuck it up.

Tribal Warfare
11-01-2012, 12:09 AM
At the rate the Chiefs are going now, they will end up with the number 1 pick in the draft. That is in thanks to having the worst coaching staff and Front Office in the league.

I can't see them winning another game. I think they're 1-15 bad. The team has mailed it in and won't compete with anybody. Their level of competition is so inept, I can't see anybody who is worse.

I have been watching games around the league and nobody is as bad as the Chiefs. I mean nobody.

FYP

ClevelandBronco
11-01-2012, 12:13 AM
Last 5 weeks scare me, it pretty weak, especially if Denver rest their starters in Week 17

That might depend on whether the Broncos have to play the first playoff weekend.

kcxiv
11-01-2012, 12:15 AM
I was listening to the podcast of Jeff Chadiha on 610 or 810, one of them damn channels and he predicts us to go 2-14 our next win will be against Denver, because they would have pulled all their starters in the 16th game, because it would be a meaningless game for Denver

BigChiefFan
11-01-2012, 12:21 AM
I wouldn't count out the Chargers, just yet.

Ace Gunner
11-01-2012, 12:39 AM
1 Kansas City 1-6 .478

ya baby

beach tribe
11-01-2012, 08:05 AM
There is no option other than Geno.

I'm not going through the 1983 bullshit again and end up with Blackledge ver. 2.

Geno or bust!

You have no idea whether Geno will be better than any of the other prospects.
I would love to have Geno, but Barkley may turn out to be the better pro, and it would not surprise me if he did.

RealSNR
11-01-2012, 08:36 AM
You have no idea whether Geno will be better than any of the other prospects.
I would love to have Geno, but Barkley may turn out to be the better pro, and it would not surprise me if he did.

Yeah, and Ryan Tannehill might end up having the better career than Andrew Luck.

U just don't know!