Is this the worst team in NFL History?

[RunKC]

I really think it is. At least the Detroit Lions and Tampa Bay Bucs were competetive in a handful of games.

This is just fucking sad.

[petegz28]

Considering we haven't had a lead in 8 games and I think that goes back before the NFL decided to keep stats ....yea

[Ceej]

Do you have a stupid fucking thread quota each week?

[Ace Gunner]

2007 chiefs is the worst NFL football team I've ever seen. Worse than this by a mile.

[DaWolf]

Well we beat the Saints on the road, and almost beat Baltimore. But other than that, sure...

[DBOSHO]

Yes.

[KCFaninSEA]

They are definitely bad enough to be in the conversation. That is bad enough.

[Chief3188]

2007 chiefs is the worst NFL football team I've ever seen. Worse than this by a mile.

Are you dumb or just plain stupid? We were 4-3 and leading the division at that point in 2007 and you think that was worse than this? How old were you in 2007?

[bobbything]

2007 chiefs is the worst NFL football team I've ever seen. Worse than this by a mile.

Wrong. Even if you really mean the 2008 team like i think you do, this team is so much worse than that team it's not even remotely close. That 08 team lost 7 games by 7 points or fewer, and 4 games by less than 4 points. This team is getting boat raced every single week. They've only kept it within a touchdown once. Hell, they've only kept it within single digits once.

They continue this path, they'll be considered the worst NFL team of all time.

I fucking hate Scott Pioli. I've never hated a Chiefs player/coach/employee more than him. Just listening to him talk pisses me off. Dayton Moore, even if you want to argue that he hasn't done too much, he at least is candid and appears humble. Pioli is a fucking douche who thinks he's smarter than anyone else. I'd bet me and my buddies could coordinate this team to better performances by calling plays from Madden 97.

Fuck this team.

[notorious]

2007 chiefs is the worst NFL football team I've ever seen. Worse than this by a mile.

Did you mean 08'?

The team this year turns the ball over a lot. The 08' team was horrific at every position. Record setting sack total, horrific offense, etc.

[kcxiv]

Do you have a stupid ****ing thread quota each week?

Its really a legit question. We are doing things bad things the NFL has never seen.

[kcxiv]

Well we beat the Saints on the road, and almost beat Baltimore. But other than that, sure...

also been blown out 5 of the 7 losses. When your a fan and you expect your team to get blown out, its bad. I dont think any fan even thinks the games will be competitive 5 min before the start of a game.

[Al Bundy]

I just called into 810 and let them know what a Buccaneers fan thought.... I feel bad for Chiefs fans.

[Planetman]

Apparently you never saw John McKay's 1976 Buccaneers attempt to play football.

[Al Bundy]

Apparently you never saw John McKay's 1976 Buccaneers attempt to play football.

Was alive and well... that was a different era... nowadays you HAVE to try to be this bad.

[aturnis]

Do you have a stupid ****ing thread quota each week?

Yeah, but it's not as large as Pete's.

[aturnis]

I just called into 810 and let them know what a Buccaneers fan thought.... I feel bad for Chiefs fans.

I heard you. Thanks for supporting.

[Ace Gunner]

Did you mean 08'?

The team this year turns the ball over a lot. The 08' team was horrific at every position. Record setting sack total, horrific offense, etc.

ya, oops -- I meant '08. man that team was horrible. did they go through 16 QB's that season:D

[Psyko Tek]

Do you have a stupid fucking thread quota each week?

yes it's all
but the moron is right
even bacon could not make this team better

[lcarus]

ya, oops -- I meant '08. man that team was horrible. did they go through 16 QB's that season:D

Yeah both the 08 and this years team were just fucking atrocious. Pioli and Crennel somehow make Carl and Herm look good. At least when Herm was here a few good players were drafted. Pioli's drafts are a joke of epic proportions.

[Psyko Tek]

Apparently you never saw John McKay's 1976 Buccaneers attempt to play football.

you compare a start up to a franchise that has failed?

compareing antifreeze to aids trees

[zigbazah]

Playing the Chiefs must feel like playing Madden on rookie.

[Hammock Parties]

We have legit one of the greatest RBs in the last 10 years and we can't find a way to get him to produce.

Yeah, we're fucking horrible.

And it's NOT just Cassel. It's NOT just the coaching.

The talent on this team FUCKING BLOWS and people are finally realizing it.

Four fucking years in and we have ONE corner on the fucking team, and he was brought in by Herm.

[KcMizzou]

I'd like to give another big "FUCK YOU" to Eric Winston. Yet another piss poor game. Fuck that guy.

[ArrowheadMagic]

well we havent gone 9 games without a lead and folded. dammit clark

[KCrockaholic]

I'd like to give another big "**** YOU" to Eric Winston. Yet another piss poor game. **** that guy.

His false start was fucking stupid. 1. His reaction was slow. 2. The guy didn't even jump into the neutral zone. Winston is a complete fucking idiot.

[stevieray]

did anyone else see that stat...?

...the last time KC won a game with a QB they drafted was Blackledge in 19freaking87?

sorry, that is just flat out PATHETIC.

there just isn't any excuse anymore....I've never heard Mitch like he was tonight.

[CUCUMBER]

yes.

LOL

[Bump]

Do you have a stupid ****ing thread quota each week?

it's a legit question though. I guess you have a jerk quota each week. lol

[|Zach|]

No. We have won a game.

[New World Order]

I don't know about worst in history, but they are the worst team I have ever seen. Atleast our 08 squad was competitive and tried to take care of the ball, this is just beyond bad.

[zigbazah]

At least our win can be used for motivational purposes. In the future, coaches can say "If the 2012 Chiefs won a game, we can win." Therapists can say "If the 2012 Chiefs won a game, you can beat this addiction" etc...

[BossChief]

Thigpen had 22 tds and over 3000 total yards in only 11 games in 2008 and only threw 12 picks.

That team played nearly every game close and had a chance to win late in the game.

That 2008 team would walk the 2012 team like a fucking dog.

[007]

depends on how you define worst.

[kcxiv]

its one of the worst modern day salary cap era teams. This is just really fucking terrible

[Discuss Thrower]

The most painful part of this season is knowing we're going to be TERRIBLE for a looooong time.

The rebuild necessary to make this team a Superbowl contender is just.... depressing. The Chiefs will need to find about 14 new starters on both sides of the ball.

[FAX]

did anyone else see that stat...?

...the last time KC won a game with a QB they drafted was Blackledge in 19freaking87?

sorry, that is just flat out PATHETIC.

there just isn't any excuse anymore....I've never heard Mitch like he was tonight.

That's an incredible stat, right there.

As for Mitch, I agree. Something snapped in his frontal lobes tonight. He could simply find nothing to praise ... and not just so far as this game was concerned. He couldn't think of a single positive thing to say about the entire season. He's never been so forthright about the team's problems.

I found it interesting that he mentioned Clark in the context that Clark is highly competitive and doesn't like losing. However, he never uttered Pioli's name. If there's one thing Mitch knows, it's the butter side of the slice ... and his comments regarding Clark were, in my view, telling.

FAX

[kcxiv]

There is usually a post game wrap by Mitch every game, and nothing this time. Lke i said in the other thread. they even cut romeo's press conference to under a minute. Its like 40 seconds of nothing.

[007]

Maybe all of this lack of info is a sign of whats to come this week. I know, keep dreaming.

[1ChiefsDan]

That's an incredible stat, right there.

As for Mitch, I agree. Something snapped in his frontal lobes tonight. He could simply find nothing to praise ... and not just so far as this game was concerned. He couldn't think of a single positive thing to say about the entire season. He's never been so forthright about the team's problems.

I found it interesting that he mentioned Clark in the context that Clark is highly competitive and doesn't like losing. However, he never uttered Pioli's name. If there's one thing Mitch knows, it's the butter side of the slice ... and his comments regarding Clark were, in my view, telling.

FAX
mmmmmmm..... butter

I hope so Mr. Fax. I hope so.

[Rasputin]

I don't know about worst in history, but they are the worst team I have ever seen. Atleast our 08 squad was competitive and tried to take care of the ball, this is just beyond bad.

Tyler Thygpin was also at least fun to watch. We didn't have expectations for him to be all world QBing. He was just fun to watch and was a guy we could root for.


I blame Larry Johnson and Carl Peterson for that seasons failures. Larry was a punk ass bitch that underminded the coach and teams efforts. The o-line was never addressed by Carl Peterson upon the retirement of Will & big ol Willie. Carl Peterson had plenty of time to prepare for those guys to retire. So I think Herm was dealt a bad hand at the start of the 2008 season and his QB Brodie Croyle was broken in half that game against the Titans they came after him like sharks in a feeding frenzy I remember that.

[Rasputin]

That's an incredible stat, right there.

As for Mitch, I agree. Something snapped in his frontal lobes tonight. He could simply find nothing to praise ... and not just so far as this game was concerned. He couldn't think of a single positive thing to say about the entire season. He's never been so forthright about the team's problems.

I found it interesting that he mentioned Clark in the context that Clark is highly competitive and doesn't like losing. However, he never uttered Pioli's name. If there's one thing Mitch knows, it's the butter side of the slice ... and his comments regarding Clark were, in my view, telling.

FAX

Damn maybe I should go back and start listening to Mitch and Lenny. I quit listening too them out of homerism yuckity yuck. I have always tryed to make my game day experience listening to them guys, this year I just havn't brought myself to do it.

[FAX]

Damn maybe I should go back and start listening to Mitch and Lenny. I quit listening too them out of homerism yuckity yuck. I have always tryed to make my game day experience listening to them guys, this year I just havn't brought myself to do it.

Well, normally he's constantly making excuses or finding some incidental factoid or two upon which he can base some homerism. Last night was highly unusual. I've never heard him devoid of hope. He sounded completely disgusted and in the wrap-up, he struggled for words.

FAX

[R8RFAN]

I just called into 810 and let them know what a Buccaneers fan thought.... I feel bad for Chiefs fans.

You have no shame boy, remove their ballsacks from your mouth.

[bevischief]

Well, normally he's constantly making excuses or finding some incidental factoid or two upon which he can base some homerism. Last night was highly unusual. I've never heard him devoid of hope. He sounded completely disgusted and in the wrap-up, he struggled for words.

FAX

More fuel for the fire...

[CupidStunt]

Their top two WRs were out, leaving nothing but trash, and their formerly beyond-struggling, borderline turd QB goes 18/20. Fucking 18 of 20 and for over 10 YPA to boot, not like it was checkdown stuff.

One of the worst teams to ever grace a football field. Disgusting.

[R8RFAN]

Not even close, Those Butt Pirates have and always will be the worst team in the history of the NFL and they stayed bad for a long long time... You would have to be a total dumbass to root for that team.

[Al Bundy]

Not even close, Those Butt Pirates have and always will be the worst team in the history of the NFL and they stayed bad for a long long time... You would have to be a total dumbass to root for that team.

The Buccaneers made it to the 1979 Championship game. Learn football fuckface.

[R8RFAN]

The Buccaneers made it to the 1979 Championship game. Learn football ****face.

Speaking of a total dumbass, here he is now.... Good Morning dumbass

[the Talking Can]

Rivers had the 5th highest pass completion percentage in history last night...without 2 of his starting WRs



you can't make this shit up, folks

[Deberg_1990]

the 2008 Lions were better and would beat this Chiefs team. They didnt have nearly as many blowout losses at this point in the season.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Detroit_Lions_season



Week Date Kickoff Opponent Results Game Site TV NFL Recap
Final score Team record
1 September 7, 2008 1:00 PM EDT at Atlanta Falcons L 34-21 0-1 Georgia Dome FOX Recap
2 September 14, 2008 1:00 PM EDT Green Bay Packers L 48-25 0-2 Ford Field FOX Recap
3 September 21, 2008 4:05 PM EDT at San Francisco 49ers L 31-13 0-3 Candlestick Park FOX Recap
4 Bye
5 October 5, 2008 1:00 PM EDT Chicago Bears L 34-7 0-4 Ford Field FOX Recap
6 October 12, 2008 1:00 PM EDT at Minnesota Vikings L 12-10 0-5 Hubert H. Humphrey Metrodome FOX Recap
7 October 19, 2008 4:05 PM EDT at Houston Texans L 28-21 0-6 Reliant Stadium FOX Recap
8 October 26, 2008 1:00 PM EDT Washington Redskins L 25-17 0-7 Ford Field FOX x Recap
9 November 2, 2008 1:00 PM EST at Chicago Bears L 27-23 0-8 Soldier Field FOX Recap
10 November 9, 2008 1:00 PM EST Jacksonville Jaguars L 38-14 0-9 Ford Field CBS x Recap
11 November 16, 2008 1:00 PM EST at Carolina Panthers L 31-22 0-10 Bank of America Stadium FOX Recap
12 November 23, 2008 1:00 PM EST Tampa Bay Buccaneers L 38-20 0-11 Ford Field FOX x Recap
13 November 27, 2008 12:30 PM EST Tennessee Titans L 47-10 0-12 Ford Field CBS # Recap
14 December 7, 2008 1:00 PM EST Minnesota Vikings L 20-16 0-13 Ford Field FOX x Recap
15 December 14, 2008 1:00 PM EST at Indianapolis Colts L 31-21 0-14 Lucas Oil Stadium FOX Recap
16 December 21, 2008 1:00 PM EST New Orleans Saints L 42-7 0-15 Ford Field FOX x Recap
17 December 28, 2008 1:00 PM EST at Green Bay Packers L 31-21 0-16 Lambeau Field FOX Reca

[Deberg_1990]

Rivers had the 5th highest pass completion percentage in history last night...without 2 of his starting WRs



you can't make this shit up, folks



heh, 1 incompletion was intentional, and the other was the INT to end the 1st half.

[Mile High Mania]

I'm not asking this question to be an a-hole... but, how many of you that have tickets are going to attend the final home games? Outside of the $ paid and pure fandom, I can see why you'd go. I'd have a hard time going with the state of things.

I do hope the blackout deal goes well and that things change for you guys - I've always said they're you're a great fanbase and you certainly deserve better. Football watching sucks a great deal when our division sucks, so I truly and honestly do hope that things improve.

[Molitoth]

I'm not asking this question to be an a-hole... but, how many of you that have tickets are going to attend the final home games? Outside of the $ paid and pure fandom, I can see why you'd go. I'd have a hard time going with the state of things.

I do hope the blackout deal goes well and that things change for you guys - I've always said they're you're a great fanbase and you certainly deserve better. Football watching sucks a great deal when our division sucks, so I truly and honestly do hope that things improve.

I've sold every ticket this year so far (except for the preseason games which I always have to eat).

I still have the Bengals and Panthers games to rid of. =(

But yes, I've sold the Colts game.

[Bearcat]

In the past several seasons, it looks like there's always a team or two that ends up with a -200 point differential. Clearly the worst teams from that group...

2009 Rams: 1-15, -261
2009 Lions: 2-14, -232
2008 Rams: 2-14, -233
2008 Lions: 0-16, -249

The Chiefs are at -107 halfway through the season, so they have some work to do in that regard, and their opponent win % is probably pretty mediocre at this point.

The 2009 Rams got shutout twice, didn't score a touchdown in 3 other games, and only scored one touchdown in 6 other games.... 11 games with less than 2 touchdowns scored. The Chiefs are at 4, but it's their last 4 in a row. The Rams were last in points for (175) and 2nd to last in points against (436). The Chiefs "only" have 42 points to go to hit 175, but they could go well over the points against (240 through 8 games).

So, it's closer than some might think, and being able to be so inept two seasons in a row is a meaningfully terrible accomplishment as well.

[Bump]

to be the best, sometimes you first have to be the worst.

[KCFaninSEA]

This is supposed to be a professional organization. I don't see anything professional about this organization at all. There is no motivation, no dedication and no sence of urgency. Romeo has lost the team and there is no way it can be fixed with the current structure of the team. Wholesale changes must be made, it is just a matter of when.

[TEX]

I'm not asking this question to be an a-hole... but, how many of you that have tickets are going to attend the final home games? Outside of the $ paid and pure fandom, I can see why you'd go. I'd have a hard time going with the state of things.

I do hope the blackout deal goes well and that things change for you guys - I've always said they're you're a great fanbase and you certainly deserve better. Football watching sucks a great deal when our division sucks, so I truly and honestly do hope that things improve.

We suck so bad now that I don't even hate the Broncos any longer...Did I say GO TEXANS!

[BoneKrusher]

yep.
from top to bottom, the worst chiefs team i've seen.

[FlaChief58]

I can't say "the worst ever" but, in my lifetime, YES. It's not just that they're playing pathetic football, but they just don't give a flying fuck. They are a complete failure top to bottom.

[Quesadilla Joe]

Denver Post's worst team ever rankings....

1. 1976 Tampa Bay Buccaneers, 0-14
The QB of the expansion team that was outscored by an average score of 29-9? Steve Spurrier. Bucs started 0-12 in 1977.

2. 1942 Detroit Lions, 0-11
Averaged 3.5 points per game. QBs Harry Hopp, Chet Wetterlund and Tom Colella combined for zero touchdown passes and 27 interceptions. You can look it up. ROFL ROFL ROFL

3. 1943 Chicago Cardinals, 0-10
Loss of players to World War II brought a merger with Pittsburgh Steelers in 1944, when Card-Pitt again went 0-10.

4. 2008 Detroit Lions, 0-16
Remember, this was the decade of parity. How does a team with Calvin Johnson, who had 78 catches for 1,331 yards, go winless?

5. 1980 New Orleans Saints, 1-15
This was the year Saints fans went with the Unknown Comic look. Archie Manning's team started 0-14, then beat the Jets 21-20.

6. 2000 San Diego Chargers, 1-15
Ryan Leaf! Three years after he was the No. 2 pick in the draft, behind Peyton Manning, Leaf was benched for 37-year-old Jim Harbaugh.

7. 1971 Buffalo Bills, 1-13
They were shut out four times. Dennis Shaw threw 11 TD passes and 26 interceptions. O.J. rushed for only 742 yards. Team was last in total defense and last in total offense.

8. 2007 Miami Dolphins, 1-15
Started 0-13, then beat Baltimore in overtime.

http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_21923420/worst-nfl-teams-history

[R8RFAN]

There never will be a team as bad as the 76 Bucs

[Crush]

There never will be a team as bad as the 76 Bucs

Until the end of the season when the 2012 Chiefs takes its rightful place as the worst team of all time.

[R8RFAN]

Until the end of the season when the 2012 Chiefs takes its rightful place as the worst team of all time.

Not a chance man...

[Crush]

Not a chance man...


Oh ye of little faith. This team's suck is just beginning.

[R8RFAN]

Oh ye of little faith. This team's suck is just beginning.

You are losing because you can't hold onto the ball.....

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Yeah, they may be the worst in team history, but not the worst of All-Time NFL wise....Oh, and fuck the Dungver Post

[Dave Lane]

This is the worst COACHED team in history. Hands down, no question. There is a lot of talent being squandered here for sure.

[Crush]

You are losing because you can't hold onto the ball.....

Wait until we lose by 40 on Monday Night.

[R8RFAN]

Wait until we lose by 30 on Monday Night.

They are not that good this year.... Haley is gonna have a big boner though playing against the D he knows.... Kinda like us playing against Chucky

Is it basically the same D as when he left?

[Chief Roundup]

You are losing because you can't hold onto the ball.....

Shhhhhh.....The powers that BE have not figured that out yet. If we stopped giving away an average of 4 possessions a game which is also giving the opponent 4 extra possessions. 8 possession swing is hard to overcome. Not that we would be taking the NFL by storm but we would be mediocre if they would simply stop turning the ball over.

[Rasputin]

Being compared to the worst teams of all time is bad enough. All that means is we fucking suck suck suck & not in the Primus sucks good way.

[Crush]

This is the worst COACHED team in history. Hands down, no question. There is a lot of talent being squandered here for sure.

One of the biggest myths of all-time. Where is this supposed talent outside of Charles, Houston, Hali, Flowers, Albert, Bowe, and Berry?

[R8RFAN]

Shhhhhh.....The powers that BE have not figured that out yet. If we stopped giving away an average of 4 possessions a game which is also giving the opponent 4 extra possessions. 8 possession swing is hard to overcome. Not that we would be taking the NFL by storm but we would be mediocre if they would simply stop turning the ball over.

That is correct my friend... I actually saw long , clock chewing drives by the Chiefs... That's a recipe for wins right now but everytime yall got it going, you shot yourself in the foot.. Can't blame Matt for that strip sack

[Al Bundy]

RAC is far worse of a coach than McKay was.

[R8RFAN]

RAC is far worse of a coach than McKay was.

Lord, prepare this Douche above to the ass kicking he is about to receive today at 4pm est

[Crush]

That is correct my friend... I actually saw long , clock chewing drives by the Chiefs... That's a recipe for wins right now but everytime yall got it going, you shot yourself in the foot.. Can't blame Matt for that strip sack

Matt is to blame for everything. He is the QB and everything falls on him.

[Crush]

Shhhhhh.....The powers that BE have not figured that out yet. If we stopped giving away an average of 4 possessions a game which is also giving the opponent 4 extra possessions. 8 possession swing is hard to overcome. Not that we would be taking the NFL by storm but we would be mediocre if they would simply stop turning the ball over.


... and if my mom had a penis, she would be my dad. This team will continue to turn it over and will continue to find ways to lose because they are no-talent ass clowns.

[Rasputin]

That is correct my friend... I actually saw long , clock chewing drives by the Chiefs... That's a recipe for wins right now but everytime yall got it going, you shot yourself in the foot.. Can't blame Matt for that strip sack

I've heard that Aaron Rodgers is the most sacked QB so far this year. Well he is not turning the ball over and they are a winning football team. Those long clock chewing drives mean shit if you can't produce points from them.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

An elite QB masks alot of things. Today's NFL is full of flawed teams, so yeah in comparsion this team does have alot of talent.

[R8RFAN]

I've heard that Aaron Rodgers is the most sacked QB so far this year. Well he is not turning the ball over and they are a winning football team. Those long clock chewing drives mean shit if you can't produce points from them.

Not when you turn the ball over at the end

[Rasputin]

Not when you turn the ball over at the end

Who fumbles the ball at the one yard line?

[Crush]

Not when you turn the ball over at the end


...and yet Matt Cassel is the main source of those turnovers.

[R8RFAN]

...and yet Matt Cassel is the main source of those turnovers.

Got to Protect Matt bro... No QB is worth a shit running for his life every play

[Rasputin]

Got to Protect Matt bro... No QB is worth a shit running for his life every play

Aaron Rodgers gets sacked more than anybody. They don't make up excuses he still throws for 6 TDs any given sunday. Guarandamntee if we had an Aaron Rodgers we would be a scoring machine.

[R8RFAN]

Aaron Rodgers gets sacked more than anybody. They don't make up excuses he still throws for 6 TDs any given sunday. Guarandamntee if we had an Aaron Rodgers we would be a scoring machine.

Matt is not Aaron Rodgers and Geno is not either... Aaron is Elite and you can't compare the rest of the league to him right now.

[Rasputin]

Matt is not Aaron Rodgers and Geno is not either... Aaron is Elite and you can't compare the rest of the league to him right now.

Geno at least has a chance to grow into elite QB, can't tell me that he can't become one.

[Woodchuck]

This team is no where near being the worse team of all time. We have Charles.

[Bane]

I don't know but I honestly think we could win 3 games and still be worse than the 0-16 lions team.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Got to Protect Matt bro... No QB is worth a shit running for his life every play

You can give him 10 seconds and he'll still find a way to shit his pants from phantom pressure

[R8RFAN]

Geno at least has a chance to grow into elite QB, can't tell me that he can't become one.

So did Jamarcus

[milkman]

That is correct my friend... I actually saw long , clock chewing drives by the Chiefs... That's a recipe for wins right now but everytime yall got it going, you shot yourself in the foot.. Can't blame Matt for that strip sack

No, you can't blame Cassel for the pressure, but you can blame him for the sack and strip.

Ball security was terrible in that situation.

He had to get rid of that ball before the sack, or pull that ball in to protect against the strip.

[R8RFAN]

No, you can't blame Cassel for the pressure, but you can blame him for the sack and strip.

Ball security was terrible in that situation.

He had to get rid of that ball before the sack, or pull that ball in to protect against the strip.

Yall would have hated him if it were a sack for 2 or a TD for 6+1

QB has gotta have time, I feel sorry for Matt personally... I think he is trying his ass off but he is taking the heat for everything wrong here... Brady is not as good as Matt... I bet 100 bucks he would rather play on the road than at home, fans won't back him at all even when he plays good.

[milkman]

Yall would have hated him if it were a sack for 2 or a TD for 6+1

QB has gotta have time, I feel sorry for Matt personally... I think he is trying his ass off but he is taking the heat for everything wrong here... Brady is not as good as Matt... I bet 100 bucks he would rather play on the road than at home, fans won't back him at all even when he plays good.

I blame Cassel for the things he deserves blame for.

Winston was like a swinging fucking door on that play, so Matt Cassel is in no way responsible for the pressure.

He did, however see the pressure and move, but he held the ball like a loose melon.

Once he saw the pressure and tried to move away from it, he should have continued to move and thrown the ball away to avoid the safety.

But he stopped, never raised the ball, and as already stated, held it like a loose melon.

Even if the sack was completely unavoidable, the strip was absolutely avoidable if he simply pulls the ball in.