Will Pioli be fired before the blackout?

[Hammock Parties]

My gut feeling is he will be shown the door before the next game.

[Molitoth]

Ummmm no lol. I only wish.

[Bwana]

No

[the Talking Can]

no, clark doesn't give a shit

he's already given him a new contract

[Hoover]

How is this different than after the MNF game?

[Buehler445]

No. Trying for the reverse mojo.

[hometeam]

please please pleassseeee

[Chief Roundup]

Still not convinced that Clark will fire Pioli at all let alone during the season.

[okcchief]

He won't be fired until the season is over if then. I've never wanted you to be right more than I do now.

[Boss Hog]

I don't think he will but he should be.

[BossChief]

Would Lamar Hunt have fired Scott Pioli after 4 similar years to start his time in KC?

Honestly, if the team got embarrased in this game, I firmly believe that Pioli would be out...but the way the game played out probably bought Pioli at least a few more weeks and likely till the end of the year.

My prediction will probably fail.

I hope it turns out to be right, though.

[Caseyguyrr]

nope. as much as i want it to happen i fear that it never will

[Boss Hog]

Would Lamar Hunt have fired Scott Pioli after 4 similar years to start his time in KC?

Without a doubt. He would have been gone two years ago.

[Caseyguyrr]

Would Lamar Hunt have fired Scott Pioli after 4 similar years to start his time in KC?

yes

[chiefs1111]

Nope

[milkman]

Without a doubt. He would have been gone two years ago.

yes

Really?

Lamar Hunt never fired Jack Steadman.

[Chiefs Pantalones]

These polls are useless. Nobody is being fired before the end of the season.

[1ChiefsDan]

Fuck no. These douche nozzles don't give a fuck what the fans think.

The $$ are pouring in due to TV contracts. Fans don't have a voice anymore.

[BossChief]

Would Lamar Hunt have fired Scott Pioli after 4 similar years to start his time in KC?

No disrespect whatsoever to the guys that have already answered my question...but can I get an old schooler to shoot me an answer with some thoughts behind it, please.

Guys that lived through the dark years of the mid 70s to late 80s.

How did Lamar deal with his GMs during those times?

Would he have fired Pioli after a 4 year stretch like this one?

Id like to think he would, but I have heard over and over about how loyal the guy was.

[BossChief]

Really?

Lamar Hunt never fired Jack Steadman.

From what Ive read...Jack was similar to Scott. Was decent at getting talent but couldnt put the whole picture together.

Feel free to call me a dumbass and offer a full explanation as to why.

Its hard to get a read on whats written by non fans and I trust most of your opinions, man.

Much appreciated, in advance.

FYI to those that dont know, Jack Steadman worked for KC from 1960 till 2007...meaning he won championships and that could be the reason Lamar kept him around so long..even though he wasnt the GM the whole time.

[1ChiefsDan]

Without a doubt. He would have been gone two years ago.

LMFAO

Are you 10? Look at the Chiefs history. They don't fire anyone until 10 or 20 year past the time they should.

I hope my sarcasm meter is on the fritz.

[tk13]

No disrespect whatsoever to the guys that have already answered my question...but can I get an old schooler to shoot me an answer with some thoughts behind it, please.

Guys that lived through the dark years of the mid 70s to late 80s.

How did Lamar deal with his GMs during those times?

Would he have fired Pioli after a 4 year stretch like this one?

Id like to think he would, but I have heard over and over about how loyal the guy was.

I wasn't even alive for part of this, but the Chiefs had one GM between Steadman and Carl Peterson. One. Uno. Less than two.

[milkman]

No disrespect whatsoever to the guys that have already answered my question...but can I get an old schooler to shoot me an answer with some thoughts behind it, please.

Guys that lived through the dark years of the mid 70s to late 80s.

How did Lamar deal with his GMs during those times?

Would he have fired Pioli after a 4 year stretch like this one?

Id like to think he would, but I have heard over and over about how loyal the guy was.

I already answered your question.

Jack Steadman ran this team for the better part of 20 years of losing, and Hunt never fired him.

Steadman removed himself against the wishes of Lamar hunt.

[Tribal Warfare]

1-10 after that mark Clark will either ax motherfuckers, or do completely nothing from that point till the end of the season.Then we will hear about the Pioli extension during the offseason if the latter is true .

[1ChiefsDan]

I already answered your question.

Jack Steadman ran this team for the better part of 20 years of losing, and Hunt never fired him.

Steadman removed himself against the wishes of Lamar hunt.

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[Chief Roundup]

If the team avoids turnovers like it did tonight and plays hard like they did tonight there are a couple of truly winnable games left.
I am afraid if the team plays out like they did tonight we will have Pioli and Crennel next season.

[tk13]

Look on the bright side, we only have about 16 more years of Pioli, and then we can get a new GM.

[notorious]

Milkman's post is going to make me puke.......


Lamar let him run the franchise while losing for that long? Oh God........

[1ChiefsDan]

1-10 after that mark Clark will either ax mother****ers or do completely nothing from that point till the end of the season.Then we will hear about the Pioli extension during the offseason.

You're FIRED! Or, you're not!

:spock:

[milkman]

From what Ive read...Jack was similar to Scott. Was decent at getting talent but couldnt put the whole picture together.

Feel free to call me a dumbass and offer a full explanation as to why.

Its hard to get a read on whats written by non fans and I trust most of your opinions, man.

Much appreciated, in advance.

FYI to those that dont know, Jack Steadman worked for KC from 1960 till 2007...meaning he won championships and that could be the reason Lamar kept him around so long..even though he wasnt the GM the whole time.

There are others who have a better understanding than I do about those years, since I lived in California, and we didn't have access to info like we do now.

But from where I sat, he hired some really bad coaches, and the only that offered a glimmer of hope was fire after a strike shortened season, after 4 years of progress in a league where rebuilds did take at least 5 years.

[Tribal Warfare]

You're FIRED! Or, you're not!

:spock:

Yep, if he doesn't get fired after the 1-10 mark, and is sitting pretty in February the movement is fucked.

[1ChiefsDan]

If the team avoids turnovers like it did tonight and plays hard like they did tonight there are a couple of truly winnable games left.
I am afraid if the team plays out like they did tonight we will have Pioli and Crennel next season.

Kill it with fire. AIDS FIRE, BUNKER BUSTER FIRE

I don't care how it is killed. JUST DIE!

[BossChief]

Milkman's post is going to make me puke.......


Lamar let him run the franchise while losing for that long? Oh God........

Im not sure that shows much though.

Unless I read things wrong, Jack Steadman built the 4 championship Chiefs teams (counting the 1 superbowl win)

I guess I can understand having a long leash for a guy that did that much for you.

Pioli really hasnt done squat.

[BossChief]

There are others who have a better understanding than I do about those years, since I lived in California, and we didn't have access to info like we do now.

But from where I sat, he hired some really bad coaches, and the only that offered a glimmer of hope was fire after a strike shortened season, after 4 years of progress in a league where rebuilds did take at least 5 years.

Why did he get fired then and who are you referencing?

I want to try and do some research to try and gauge what Clark might do.

I was positive that Pittsburgh was gonna destroy the fuck out of us and that Clark would then fire Pioli tomorrow out of sheer embarrassment...but it didnt play out that way.

[milkman]

Why did he get fired then and who are you referencing?

I want to try and do some research to try and gauge what Clark might do.

I was positive that Pittsburgh was gonna destroy the **** out of us and that Clark would then fire Pioli tomorrow out of sheer embarrassment...but it didnt play out that way.

Again, I was in California, so the news was just pretty much that he was fired with no details.

It was Marv Levy.

[Munson]

Should he be fired before the blackout? Yes

Will he be fired before the blackout? No

Romeo kept the game close enough to save everybody's ass from getting fired this week.

[ChiefsCountry]

Steadman was the business guy, it was Jim Schaaf who was the general manager.

[BossChief]

Jack Steadmans page on Wiki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Steadman)

Steadman – the franchise’s first general manager – also served as executive vice president, president, vice chairman and chairman in his 47 years with the Chiefs. He won four championships as general manager including the team’s Super Bowl IV title.[1] Steadman and Lamar Hunt were at the forefront of the move to merge the AFL into the NFL.

Steadman was named General Manager to Executive Vice President and General Manager in 1966; in August 1976 he was named President of the Chiefs; and in 1989 was named Chairman of the Board. During Steadman's term as President (1976–1989), the Chiefs entered a period of decline in which they never entered the playoffs for 15 years and only had four winning seasons.

[BossChief]

Lamar Hunt (August 2, 1932 – December 13, 2006)

Steadman retired as Vice Chairman of the Chiefs on January 31, 2007 after being in the organization for over four decades, dating to their days as the American Football League's Dallas Texans.[

[Imon Yourside]

Does a bear shit in an outhouse in the woods?

[FAX]

What Lamar did and what Clark will do are only remotely related ... if at all.

Clark knows that you are what your record says you are. He also knows that, after 4 years, we should be much, much more competitive. We have no significant injuries to blame ... no crazy coach ... no strike season ... so the arrow is pointing directly at Dr. Evil and his minions. I think the odds are pretty good right now that Dr. Evil won't make it through the season ... higher that he'll be gone at or near the end of the year.

FAX

[1ChiefsDan]

Steadman was the business guy, it was Jim Schaaf who was the general manager.

Jack Steadmans page on Wiki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Steadman)

Steadman – the franchise’s first general manager – also served as executive vice president, president, vice chairman and chairman in his 47 years with the Chiefs. He won four championships as general manager including the team’s Super Bowl IV title.[1] Steadman and Lamar Hunt were at the forefront of the move to merge the AFL into the NFL.

Steadman was named General Manager to Executive Vice President and General Manager in 1966; in August 1976 he was named President of the Chiefs; and in 1989 was named Chairman of the Board. During Steadman's term as President (1976–1989), the Chiefs entered a period of decline in which they never entered the playoffs for 15 years and only had four winning seasons.

"oh snap gif"

[007]

Yep, if he doesn't get fired after the 1-10 mark, and is sitting pretty in February the movement is ****ed.

Yeah, I hate the idea of this movement ultimately losing.

[Dayze]

Nope.

Clark sticking to the Process.

[the Talking Can]

Petro stroking out about "the clown-fest"

ROFL

[bobbything]

My gut feeling is he will be shown the door before the next game.
Obviously you missed Cassel's 4th down completion to set up the game tying field goal.

[Woodchuck]

No, I think Pioli got an extension last summer. Him and RAC are here for at least two more years.

Daboll will be the one to get the axe this year.

I hope I am wrong about Pioli and RAC.

[Red Beans]

No, I think Pioli got an extension last summer. Him and RAC are here for at least two more years.

Daboll will be the one to get the axe this year.

I hope I am wrong about Pioli and RAC.

You do your damnedest to ruin every thread you touch. I'm pretty much a lurker, but Jesus fucking Christ I find you terribly intolerable without even engaging you in discussion.

It's not as if this statement is that bad, and my reaction is a bit of a response to your collective presence, I simply cannot take your idiocy any longer. There is no way on God's green earth Romeo is back next year... No way.

[Reaper16]

The media climate back then (wrt Lamar and Jack Steadman) was not what it is now. Hot seats just weren't as hot back then. Sports radio wasn't what it is today, and ESPN wasn't a thing yet.

[Red Beans]

The media climate back then (wrt Lamar and Jack Steadman) was not what it is now. Hot seats just weren't as hot back then. Sports radio wasn't what it is today, and ESPN wasn't a thing yet.

There is a great deal of truth to this. The rate at which seats get hot these days isn't even comparable to the 70's and 80's. It's like comparing a campfire to nuclear fusion.

[Predarat]

I just hope he is fired by the draft.

[whoman69]

no, clark doesn't give a shit

he's already given him a new contract

If the rumors are true then no way he gets set loose.

[Marcellus]

I think he is already done, that's why Clark called Marty for advice. Why else would he be talking to Marty?

[Titty Meat]

I think he is already done, that's why Clark called Marty for advice. Why else would he be talking to Marty?

Marty is friends with the Hunt family.

[milkman]

I think he is already done, that's why Clark called Marty for advice. Why else would he be talking to Marty?

For ideas on how to sell Scott Pioli to the fanbase for another 3 years.

[Woodchuck]

I think he is already done, that's why Clark called Marty for advice. Why else would he be talking to Marty?

I wouldn't be suprised if Pioli called Marty to beat Clark to the punch. Maybe we will find out?

[Marcellus]

Marty is friends with the Hunt family.

No shit but he has the highest paid GM in the league and he calls Marty for advice? What does that say?

What advice can Marty give you that you wont ask your highly paid GM about? Advice on how to deal with your GM situation maybe?

Also it just occurred to me - Who leaked that call to the press?

[Marcellus]

For ideas on how to sell Scott Pioli to the fanbase for another 3 years.

Not funny. :shake:

[Titty Meat]

No shit but he has the highest paid GM in the league and he calls Marty for advice? What does that say?

What advice can Marty give you that you wont ask your highly paid GM about? Advice on how to deal with your GM situation maybe?

Also it just occurred to me - Who leaked that call to the press?

Do we have any proof of this other than Bill Maas who is the new Nick Athan?

[milkman]

Not funny. :shake:

Not trying to be funny.

Think about it.

Marty is still highly respected by the KC fanbase.

Who better to sell the idea to the fanbase than Marty?

Even if Marty isn't the one to bring the message, the fact that it's been leaked that Marty and Clark have talked, if Clark tells the fanbase that after consulting Marty, he reached the decision to extend Pioli, many, if not most, of the sheep will buy in.

[Lprechaun]

Didnt read through the thread but on 610 they brought up a good point. Would Pioli really be traveling around to college games (which reports are that he is) if he is not going to be the one making the future decisions?

[Marcellus]

Didnt read through the thread but on 610 they brought up a good point. Would Pioli really be traveling around to college games (which reports are that he is) if he is not going to be the one making the future decisions?

Somebody posted an opinion from an anonymous GM in some article that Pioli was on the road to stay away from Arrowhead, and running from his problems.

Don't remember the thread though.

[Woodchuck]

I think Pioli called Marty.

I think Pioli leaked the story that Marty and Clark talked.

Who else would have leaked it?

Pioli ahead of the curve.

I hope not but I have seen it before.

Pioli has a new contract and he and RAC are here for a while imo.

[Steron]

Not. A. Chance.

[Lprechaun]

RAC is gone after this season. There is too many potential established QBs that Pioli can hitch his wagon to with a new QB. The gobbling up ex players of old coaches or regimes has to stop.
Pioli might get one more year but I dont see it. Maybe he is just doing his due diligence for his next job. He can I guess do all his homework and still have it with him when he interviews for another GM job.
At this point its getting harder and harder to care. I cant imagine living in KC right now... Im surprised people arent picketing non stop at Arrowhead

[milkman]

I think Pioli called Marty.

I think Pioli leaked the story that Marty and Clark talked.

Who else would have leaked it?

Pioli ahead of the curve.

I hope not but I have seen it before.

Pioli has a new contract and he and RAC are here for a while imo.

Scott Pioli and Marty are such good buddies.

[Mama Hip Rockets]

The Chiefs just played their best game of the year. Why would he get fired now?

[Sorter]

I think Pioli called Marty.

I think Pioli leaked the story that Marty and Clark talked.

Who else would have leaked it?

Pioli ahead of the curve.

I hope not but I have seen it before.

Pioli has a new contract and he and RAC are here for a while imo.

http://i49.tinypic.com/2ue1wci.gif

[Lprechaun]

Just saw the SOC facebook page posted Pioli now has the worst winning percentage of any Chiefs GM

[Bugeater]

I don't have any reason to believe that he will be.

[mnchiefsguy]

Had to vote no. If the Chiefs had lost 45-0 last night, then maybe, but I do not see any pink slips being issued at Arrowhead anytime soon, unfortunately.

[warpaint*]

I don't get the feeling that Pioli is gone. I think he'll get to hire one more coach and draft a franchise QB and make a go of it and he will sink or swim based on those two outcomes. RC is as good as gone as they'll hire someone else to make a fresh start w/ the rookie QB.

Of course that is just a guess. We don't really know for sure what Clark is thinking.

If I had my druthers I'd send Pioli packing too just like most other fans but I'm not sure we're going to get that this yr.

As to whether it works, I have little/no faith in Pioli at this point but depending on who they hire and draft may very well be feeling optimistic about the future come spring.