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gblowfish
12-01-2012, 01:59 PM
For those of you who are not long time Chiefs fans, there was another tragic murder-suicide back in 1980 involving a Chiefs player. Jim Tyrer, who was an All-Pro tackle for the Chiefs, played his last game in KC in 1973. In 1980, he was having serious money troubles, and shot his wife dead, then killed himself, in his KC home with all four of his kids in the house.

That was very shocking in 1980. Tyrer wasn't an active player when he did this, but he was one of the Chiefs solid building block players, kind of like Will Shields or Tim Grunhard during his era. He protected Len Dawson's blind side.

If you don't know the story, you can read it here:
http://tinyurl.com/cx87v2y

Agent V
12-01-2012, 02:06 PM
Thanks, George. I actually didn't know Tryer killed himself, too. A lot of tragedy associated with this team, unfortunately. :(

lcarus
12-01-2012, 02:07 PM
Yeah I heard about that.

milkman
12-01-2012, 02:07 PM
Tyrer was widely considered the best to have ever played the position when he retired.

Rugby Thompson
12-01-2012, 02:09 PM
But did he kill himself at Arrowhead? That's what I find so dark about this story, he went to do it in front of Pioli and Crennel for some reason and I want to know why.

GoShox
12-01-2012, 02:10 PM
But did he kill himself at Arrowhead? That's what I find so dark about this story, he went to do it in front of Pioli and Crennel for some reason and I want to know why.

I'm sure all of us are wondering that as well. Did he instantly realize what he did was wrong, so he went to one of the few places he knew as safe?

gblowfish
12-01-2012, 02:12 PM
But did he kill himself at Arrowhead? That's what I find so dark about this story, he went to do it in front of Pioli and Crennel for some reason and I want to know why.

I think Belcher went to Arrowhead because it was close to his GF's apartment. 53rd and Crysler is only about a mile or so from Arrowhead.

Rugby Thompson
12-01-2012, 02:13 PM
I think he went to Arrowhead to prove a point or he wanted attention from the coaching staff and Pioli, I don't know why, but it doesn't make sense why would he do this at the stadium. Man, it's gonna be fucking creepy seeing this stadium tomorrow.

In58men
12-01-2012, 02:13 PM
Before my time. Money is the root of all evil.

rabblerouser
12-01-2012, 02:14 PM
I'm sure all of us are wondering that as well. Did he instantly realize what he did was wrong, so he went to one of the few places he knew as safe?

It's so bizarre.

An active NFL player killed himself in front of his Head Coach and GM.

And it was Jovan Belcher.

it's like out of the script of some terrible Hollywood 'B' movie...

jspchief
12-01-2012, 02:15 PM
I think Belcher went to Arrowhead because it was close to his GF's apartment. 53rd and Crysler is only about a mile or so from Arrowhead.

I imagine there could be relationships built with coaches that he gravitated to. A young man a long way from home, there were probably people there as close to family as he could readily access.

rabblerouser
12-01-2012, 02:15 PM
I think Belcher went to Arrowhead because it was close to his GF's apartment. 53rd and Crysler is only about a mile or so from Arrowhead.

it's no use trying to ascertain what, exactly, was going through his head; he obviously wasn't thinking clearly when he shot her in front of their daughter and his mother.

gblowfish
12-01-2012, 02:16 PM
For those of you not familiar with the neighborhood, here's a map. The "A" is close to where the GF's apartment is located, Arrowhead is in the upper left corner. It's about a two mile or so distance.

http://i46.tinypic.com/2w2ncj8.jpg

ChiefsCountry
12-01-2012, 02:39 PM
Going to the Chiefs facility was the place where he knew he could get help at. My family's business has had employees not like this but life situations and they always seem to go to where they work.

ChiefsCountry
12-01-2012, 02:42 PM
Tyrer was widely considered the best to have ever played the position when he retired.

Him killing himself and his family is why he is probablly not in the Hall of Fame.

whoman69
12-01-2012, 03:22 PM
Chiefs have certainly had their share of tragedy. We've had Stone Johnson, Mack Lee Hill, Derrick Thomas, Joe Delaney, Jim Tyrer and now this.

Hog's Gone Fishin
12-01-2012, 04:18 PM
Chiefs have certainly had their share of tragedy. We've had Stone Johnson, Mack Lee Hill, Derrick Thomas, Joe Delaney, Jim Tyrer and now this.

You left out Cassel and Lin Elliott. They are / were definite tragedies

htismaqe
12-01-2012, 04:30 PM
I imagine there could be relationships built with coaches that he gravitated to. A young man a long way from home, there were probably people there as close to family as he could readily access.

Yeah, that's the way I see it.

He was looking for his "safe place".

Prison Bitch
12-01-2012, 04:33 PM
Him killing himself and his family is why he is probablly not in the Hall of Fame.

So sad, I just can't believe it. Still. May his family have peace and may the child be loved by everyone in her life. It's hitting me since we are leaving te hospital with our newborn.


I feel relieved he didn't shoot others at the end. Or shoot himself running down the field in front of the fans on Gameday like The Last BoyScout movie

MahiMike
12-01-2012, 07:01 PM
I remember that now. It was a one of a kind story back then.

gblowfish
12-01-2012, 07:10 PM
Len Dawson talks about Jim Tyrer on the local news tonight:
http://tinyurl.com/d2oxkx2

BTW: Tyrer is in the Chiefs HOF. His murder/suicide happened seven years after he left the team. It's probably kept him out of the pro football HOF. He was deserving, as is Ed Budde and Otis Taylor, of consideration.

SAUTO
12-01-2012, 07:23 PM
Yeah, that's the way I see it.

He was looking for his "safe place".
But his mother was at the house, right?

Strange strange situation
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ChiefsCountry
12-01-2012, 07:28 PM
But his mother was at the house, right?

Strange strange situation
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Yeah his mom moved in to help with the baby. But you wouldn't stick around with a dead body in the house.

Prison Bitch
12-01-2012, 07:44 PM
I bought my first home in OP from an estate after an elderly couple did a murder suicide. Apparently they were heavy smokers and both had cancer so the old man decided to end it for the both of em one night


Nobody wanted to buy it so I got it for cheap

Lex Luthor
12-01-2012, 08:22 PM
You left out Cassel and the kicker that shall go unnamedt. They are / were definite tragedies

Dude. Not appropriate.