Should SOC fly a banner over the final game?

[Mr_Tomahawk]

It will be nearly 3 weeks before this team take the field at Arrowhead again.

I feel the Belcher incident will slowly move to the back page of the fan page. We, as fans, will be reminded about how much this FO has to go. I also know that it would be very easy for the media to put a negative spin on what SOC is trying to accomplish...

So, I am curious as to what your views are in regards to flying a banner over the final game.

Should we fly a banner over the final game?

If you vote yes; please specify what you think it should say...

[BigRedChief]

Are you with the SOC now?

[jspchief]

Not in my opinion.

[jaa1025]

How about fire Quinn, bring back Cassel banner so we could lose out?

[O.city]

I say yes, but it needs to be subtle.


Not really a straight "Fire Pioli" but more a "do the right thing" kinda saying? If that makes sense.

[Dr. Johnny Fever]

Personally I think the message has been sent. I also think in another couple weeks we'll be far enough away from Saturday to have a clearer picture of what is apropriate. No decisions have to be made now. JMO.

[Raiderhater]

My opinion might change between now and then but, at this point I wouldn't fly anything directly aimed at Pioli. Something along the lines of Restore Hope.

[Buck]

I voted no, but I have no say.

[loochy]

Personally I think the message has been sent. I also think in another couple weeks we'll be far enough away from Saturday to have a clearer picture of what is apropriate. No decisions have to be made now. JMO.

This. It's too early now. We'll see.

[O.city]

Maybe

"Message Recieved? Saveourchiefs.com"

[SAUTO]

Are you with the SOC now?

Why do you ask?
Posted via Mobile Device

[Bugeater]

I think it would be pretty pointless, but I don't have strong feelings either way.

[jaa1025]

Ask again before the game. Once some time has passed you will get a more accurate vote. Not enough time has passed. If it was a home game next week, I'd definitely rule it out.

[Hammock Parties]

Plenty of time for this crap to die down, so yes.

[Marcellus]

"Pray for our Chiefs"

[chief52]

The message has been sent and received IMO. Can not see any benefit from another fly over. Personal opinion.

[Mr_Tomahawk]

Are you with the SOC now?

Yes.

Are you?

[New World Order]

Well of course, if fat scott can make his usual stop at donut king in the midst of tragedy we should be able to fly a sign.

[KCFalcon59]

Yes,

Fresh Start....saveourchiefs.com

[Mr_Tomahawk]

Gotta finish the job...

[GloryDayz]

I think we should. Subtle, perhaps up-beat and optimistic for next year if the right moves are made.

"With the right moves, 2013 will be GREAT!"

[Mr. Flopnuts]

I voted no. I think it's tactless. However, frankly, who the fuck are we? If we were too, what's the worst that would happen? A fraction of the fanbase would think we're bad people. They already do, and who cares? It would definitely make a statement. That may not be a bad thing, unless we really plan to carry this over to next year, and I think this whole thing will jump the shark if we do.

Just my .02 cents.

[Hammock Parties]

The main thing is...the main thing.

[Mr_Tomahawk]

I think we should. Subtle, perhaps up-beat and optimistic for next year if the right moves are made.

"With the right moves, 2013 will be GREAT!"

So Pioli will try to make the right moves.

I still think it has to be aimed at Pioli.

[Mr_Tomahawk]

Don't want to regret not flying the banner if Pioli returns next year...

[PRIEST]

Gotta finish the job...





This

[RunKC]

Doesn't matter Pioli will still be here anyway.

[RunKC]

Don't want to regret not flying the banner if Pioli returns next year...

One banner is not the difference between Pioli being here or leaving.

[Bugeater]

Don't want to regret not flying the banner if Pioli returns next year...
I seriously doubt that one more banner is going to affect Clark's decision.

[Easy 6]

I have no idea where it could go, no idea at this point... glad its not my decision because its a real tough one.

Finding the right message after this...

A franchise laid bare, throw out the wasted season of epic football disaster at every turn... this human tragedy changed every possible angle.

I trust the guys in charge of this revolt, waaay ahead of the curve at every step, its just going to take some time to digest this thing.

[tk13]

The reality is if Clark really can't figure this out by now and needs a banner to figure it out, we're screwed anyway.

[Dr. Johnny Fever]

Don't want to regret not flying the banner if Pioli returns next year...

Do you honestly think one more banner over the last game will be the deciding factor in that? If you do... OK. I don't.

[In58men]

"We need Jesus not Pioli"

[Titty Meat]

If they did I think the message should be "pray for our chiefs" or something like that. Maybe do some sort of fundraiser for Javons baby or a domestic violence program.

[Mr_Tomahawk]

I seriously doubt that one more banner is going to affect Clark's decision.

So quit...?

[Mr_Tomahawk]

Do you honestly think one more banner over the last game will be the deciding factor in that? If you do... OK. I don't.

I'm guessing you don't vote...

[RunKC]

I seriously doubt that one more banner is going to affect Clark's decision.

Hey we agree!

[Bugeater]

So quit...?
Eh, the message has been sent. I suppose a parting reminder would be ok but like others have said it's not likely to be a deciding factor.

[Spott]

Heck yeah. A few more ugly losses will get everyone back in the right form again.

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

I think as many do that the message has been sent. Out of respect for Clark Hunt I think we now need to show up and cheer Quinn on. Cassel has been benched which was 1/2 our goal. Lets get 4 more wins and draft a QB

[Mr_Tomahawk]

FIRE PIOLI - FIRE PIOLI - SAVEOURCHIEFS.COM

[wazu]

I think as many do that the message has been sent. Out of respect for Clark Hunt I think we now need to show up and cheer Quinn on. Cassel has been benched which was 1/2 our goal. Lets get 4 more wins and draft a QB

ROFL

[Marcellus]

The banner doesn't have to be negative.

[wazu]

The banners will stop when Pioli is fired.

[Dr. Johnny Fever]

I'm guessing you don't vote...

On this poll? No. I stated my opinion and that was that's it's too early to make a decision right now. Let some time pass and see what's appropriate once a choice has to be made. Common sense. Sorry if I'm not eager to jump on the all or nothing bandwagon mentality that rulz teh interwebs.

[Bugeater]

On this poll? No. I stated my opinion and that was that's it's too early to make a decision right now. Let some time pass and see what's appropriate once a choice has to be made. Common sense. Sorry if I'm not eager to jump on the all or nothing bandwagon mentality that rulz teh interwebs.
Oh no...no...you're going to pick a side, and you're going to fucking fight to the death over it. Now what's it going to be?

[Dr. Johnny Fever]

Oh no...no...you're going to pick a side, and you're going to ****ing fight to the death over it. Now what's it going to be?

Start Stanzi the rest of the way.

[Spott]

The banner doesn't have to be negative.

Fire Pioli is a positive statement.

[Chief_For_Life58]

Pioli: Belcher yourself. saveourchiefs.com

[Marcellus]

Fire Pioli is a positive statement.

True dat.

[Bugeater]

Fire Pioli is a positive statement.
Well he positively needs to be fired.

[DaWolf]

The reality is if Clark really can't figure this out by now and needs a banner to figure it out, we're screwed anyway.

This...

[htismaqe]

I voted "no" only because I believe it won't be necessary.

Either they'll go out on the road and tank, and Pioli will be fired regardless of the banner.

Or they'll go out and win them and Pioli will be retained regardless of the banner.

[Easy 6]

Oh no...no...you're going to pick a side, and you're going to ****ing fight to the death over it. Now what's it going to be?

ROFL

[Shaid]

The message has been sent. It'll pretty much just be redundant at this point.

[Cornstock]

It's too early to make a final decision, but right now I like the "Pray for Our Chiefs-saveourchiefs.com"

[rtmike]

KC #1 FANS IN NFL

KC BEST FANS IN NFL

CHIEF FANS #1 IN NFL


I got nothing...

[Chief Roundup]

Chiefs deserve fresh start-saveourchiefs.com

[Psyko Tek]

One banner is not the difference between Pioli being here or leaving.

one more banner says we still don\t like this

[CaliforniaChief]

I voted no.

I just commented in the SOC thread what my thoughts are, but we have to strike a balance between staying on message and losing the goodwill of the fanbase, media, and general public.

It really depends on what transpires. It's really too early to say.

[TinyEvel]

"REPLACE, REBUILD, RETURN TO GLORY. SAVEOURCHIEFS.COM"

:shrug:

[Fairplay]

"NO MORE DEATHS - FIRE PIOLI AND CRENNEL"

[007]

ABsolutely. Probably should drop the Fire Pioli and try to find something a little less negative though. There are enough creative minds here to come up with something positive that still get the message across.

[007]

"REPLACE, REBUILD, RETURN TO GLORY. SAVEOURCHIEFS.COM"

:shrug:

Sam Brownback likes that.

[NJChiefsFan]

Plenty of time for this crap to die down, so yes.

This. Lets just wait until after the game Sunday and take the temp. Really I don't see why we can't by then.

[big nasty kcnut]

fire pioli and draft Gino #foramerica.

[AussieChiefsFan]

fire pioli and draft Gino #foramerica.For 'Straya too!

[TimeForWasp]

I vote yes.

For a positive banner supporting the team ONLY.

The message has been sent , seen , and heard.

We need to go out on a positive note supporting the team.

[spanky 52]

The banner should fly until the asshole is gone. Yes, some terrible crap happened this past weekend but the cancer is still there.

[Saul Good]

Are you with the SOC now?

Yes.

Are you?

And BRC scurries away to monitor a safer hallway...

[J Diddy]

ABsolutely. Probably should drop the Fire Pioli and try to find something a little less negative though. There are enough creative minds here to come up with something positive that still get the message across.

Simple marketing. Instead of fire Pioli go to hire new gm

[durtyrute]

I vote yes.

For a positive banner supporting the team ONLY.

The message has been sent , seen , and heard.

We need to go out on a positive note supporting the team.

This

[Hammock Parties]

You can be positive and still promote SOC.

Looking forward to next year. Give us HOPE!

[htismaqe]

For 'Straya too!

Geno Down Under!

[Hammock Parties]

PIOLI KILLS CHIEFS. SAVE OUR CHIEFS.

[Hammock Parties]

FIRE PIOLI OR WE BLOW OUR BRAINS OUT

[Mr_Tomahawk]

I like the "hire new GM".

I think we need to focus on removing Pioli. Anything else will be viewed as if we have changed our opinion on him returning next year and changes can occur in other areas of this team...not at GM.


START FRESH - HIRE A NEW GM

[okoye35chiefs]

I would say yes only if it were a positive such as:

We still believe or Restore hope

I don't believe any firing or any negatives should be put up..

[patteeu]

Yes. There's no reason to stop flying banners. SOC demonstrated their respect for the difficult situation the Chiefs were dealing with by suspending operations for one weekend. Now, three weeks removed from the event, it's time to demonstrate that SOC isn't going anywhere as long as real change doesn't take place.

NOW IT'S TIME FOR CHANGE - SAVEOURCHIEFS.COM

[Lex Luthor]

The banners will stop when Pioli is fired.
THAT'S what the banner for the final game should say.

[Hammock Parties]

I actually think that's great.

IF PIOLI RETURNS, SO DO WE.

[Mr_Tomahawk]

I actually think that's great.

IF PIOLI RETURNS, SO DO WE.

This could be interpreted as we, the fans, will return if Pioli does.

[Mr_Tomahawk]

We need to fly 2 banners!


:D

[durtyrute]

The banners will stop when Pioli is fired.

This is another threat and not a very good one at that. I really don't think Clark or Pioli care about the banners. It's not like they are wasting their money on them.

[Hammock Parties]

PIOLI LIED, BELCHER DIED

[Hammock Parties]

This is another threat and not a very good one at that. I really don't think Clark or Pioli care about the banners. It's not like they are wasting their money on them.

I guarantee you they care about the banners.

They make the organization look like a fucking joke.

[Reerun_KC]

This is another threat and not a very good one at that. I really don't think Clark or Pioli care about the banners. It's not like they are wasting their money on them.

I would rather waste my money on a banner than the product they are selling me.

[wazu]

This is another threat and not a very good one at that. I really don't think Clark or Pioli care about the banners. It's not like they are wasting their money on them.

It's not a threat. It's an obvious statement of fact. The whole SOC thing is going to pretty much drop off a cliff once Pioli is fired. But that hasn't happened yet, so why stop?

I actually think it's more important than ever to send a message that NOTHING has changed. Otherwise it just looks like we're cool now, and that keeping Pioli is somehow understandable to us given all he's been through.

[Vegas_Dave]

We Still Need Change - SaveOurChiefs.com

[patteeu]

We Still Need Change - SaveOurChiefs.com

I like.

[suds79]

We Still Need Change - SaveOurChiefs.com

I 2nd this.

[Predarat]

Hell yes. FIRE PIOLI YESTERDAY!

[htismaqe]

It's not a threat. It's an obvious statement of fact. The whole SOC thing is going to pretty much drop off a cliff once Pioli is fired. But that hasn't happened yet, so why stop?

I actually think it's more important than ever to send a message that NOTHING has changed. Otherwise it just looks like we're cool now, and that keeping Pioli is somehow understandable to us given all he's been through.

As long as everybody is prepared to deal with the potential backlash, I say go for it.

My only concern is that the dissent we saw before (aka All Caps DEB) was tiny in comparison to what might happen in the wake of the Belcher incident.

[BlackHelicopters]

Voted no, but I have no say.

[Nightfyre]

I voted no. At this point, Clark will either make the right choice or not. The banner will not likely have an impact at this point.

[Rasputin]

DRAFT GENO SMITH @ SAVEOURCHIEFS

If anything we need a message to get us a QBotf with our first pick of the draft.

[philfree]

I guess a good question would how will flying another banner effect the players? How's Jamal Charles going to feel about? I believe SOC statement has been heard and under the circumstances it's time to cease and desist. If not it's just going to look like a bunch of insensitive assholes who have lost their class. It was a pretty classy movement but flying another banner will take away from that.

That's my $.02 worth.

[Chiefnj2]

There is a much, much greater chance that the SOC movement comes off looking bad and insensitive than any benefit in flying a banner.

Clark isn't going to change his mind one way or the other if a final banner flies.

[Marco Polo]

DRAFT GENO SMITH @ SAVEOURCHIEFS

If anything we need a message to get us a QBotf with our first pick of the draft.

This. The heat has been on Pioli. Let's focus on our QB.

[Lex Luthor]

As long as everybody is prepared to deal with the potential backlash, I say go for it.

My only concern is that the dissent we saw before (aka All Caps DEB) was tiny in comparison to what might happen in the wake of the Belcher incident.
What is the potential backlash that you envision?

[Bub]

I wouldn't do it. The story will turn on the fans if you do. Honestly, I am blown away that the majority want to do it. I can't believe you are even considering it. I think it shows how out of touch with reality the fans here are. Any banner will make you look crazy on a national scale.

[jAZ]

What happened to the idea/plan for donating the balance of the money to a fund for the Jovan's daughter?

[Chiefnj2]

If Clark needs the fans to provide counsel that the team needs a QB then the franchise is doomed. If he isn't aware of it yet, he never will be.

[Lprechaun]

Too bad there isnt room to be supportive of the players yet at the same time give that one last punch to Pioli

[durtyrute]

There is a much, much greater chance that the SOC movement comes off looking bad and insensitive than any benefit in flying a banner.

Clark isn't going to change his mind one way or the other if a final banner flies.

This

[durtyrute]

I wouldn't do it. The story will turn on the fans if you do. Honestly, I am blown away that the majority want to do it. I can't believe you are even considering it. I think it shows how out of touch with reality the fans here are. Any banner will make you look crazy on a national scale.

What happened to the idea/plan for donating the balance of the money to a fund for the Jovan's daughter?

those

[Sorter]

I already voted but I'll probably have a better opinion of it in a few weeks.

[patteeu]

It's not classless for the Chiefs to continue to play games in the wake of the tragedy. It shouldn't be considered classless for Clark Hunt to fire the coach or the GM after the season despite what they went through. It won't be considered classless when advertisers continue to sell their services/merchandise throughout Arrowhead and on TV during the game.

If everyone else can get back to business, it shouldn't be considered classless if SOC gets back to business too. Just make sure the banner isn't something inflammatory like "BELCHER COULDN'T TAKE IT ANYMORE AND NEITHER CAN WE - SAVEOURCHIEFS.COM" or something exploitative like "WE GRIEVE FOR ZOE - SAVEOURCHIEFS.COM". It's probably unnecessary to mention PIOLI or CRENNEL by name too.

[Red Beans]

It's not classless for the Chiefs to continue to play games in the wake of the tragedy. It shouldn't be considered classless for Clark Hunt to fire the coach or the GM after the season despite what they went through. It won't be considered classless when advertisers continue to sell their services/merchandise throughout Arrowhead and on TV during the game.

If everyone else can get back to business, it shouldn't be considered classless if SOC gets back to business too. Just make sure the banner isn't something inflammatory like "BELCHER COULDN'T TAKE IT ANYMORE AND NEITHER CAN WE - SAVEOURCHIEFS.COM" or something exploitative like "WE GRIEVE FOR ZOE - SAVEOURCHIEFS.COM". It's probably unnecessary to mention PIOLI or CRENNEL by name too.

Well said. I couldn't agree more...

[chiefzilla1501]

I feel like SOC needs to continue to put pressure, but in different ways. I read on the Facebook wall that there should be more grassroots efforts (e.g. letter writing campaigns to Clark Hunt) that are polite but tough. I also still believe this should be moving toward a more "don't you miss the old Arrowhead" approach (e.g. what happened to player radio shows, banners at Arrowhead, public community appearances, etc...). That changes the tone to "we still love our Chiefs and our players, and we don't understand why our GM distances us from them." That's a good message that shows we still support our players, but are pissed at the way our GM has made Arrowhead so sterile.

[patteeu]

I feel like SOC needs to continue to put pressure, but in different ways. I read on the Facebook wall that there should be more grassroots efforts (e.g. letter writing campaigns to Clark Hunt) that are polite but tough. I also still believe this should be moving toward a more "don't you miss the old Arrowhead" approach (e.g. what happened to player radio shows, banners at Arrowhead, public community appearances, etc...). That changes the tone to "we still love our Chiefs and our players, and we don't understand why our GM distances us from them." That's a good message that shows we still support our players, but are pissed at the way our GM has made Arrowhead so sterile.

That makes a lot of sense to me. Here's an idea for a final game banner:

WRITE A LETTER TO MR. HUNT - SAVEOURCHIEFS.COM

And then have info on the front page of the website like an address, ideas about what kinds of letters to write, maybe even downloadable templates or the ability to write a letter online and send it through the website.

[htismaqe]

It shouldn't be considered classless for Clark Hunt to fire the coach or the GM after the season despite what they went through.

It SHOULDN'T be.

But it WILL be.

The only question remaining is how loud the backlash will be.

[Graystoke]

I voted yes. But the message needs to be positive.

[patteeu]

It SHOULDN'T be.

But it WILL be.

The only question remaining is how loud the backlash will be.

No it won't be. Your fear is unjustified, IMO.

[htismaqe]

No it won't be. Your fear is unjustified, IMO.

I have been listening to the radio pretty much non-stop since Saturday. I've heard several hosts and caller after caller say that firing Romeo and Pioli after this is cold and heartless.

There will be people that see this as classless - there ALREADY ARE people that see it that way.

The question remains as to how many people that will be.

[TLO]

I wouldn't do it. The story will turn on the fans if you do. Honestly, I am blown away that the majority want to do it. I can't believe you are even considering it. I think it shows how out of touch with reality the fans here are. Any banner will make you look crazy on a national scale.

3 posts and this guy is banned. ROFL

[Exoter175]

I'm all for a supportive banner like, "We support our players-SOC"

[Hammock Parties]

I have been listening to the radio pretty much non-stop since Saturday. I've heard several hosts and caller after caller say that firing Romeo and Pioli after this is cold and heartless.

There will be people that see this as classless - there ALREADY ARE people that see it that way.

The question remains as to how many people that will be.

And if Clark has already made up his mind it won't matter one bit.

And in my mind what has happened will only ENCOURAGE him to fire them both.

The franchise needs to distance itself from this era as FAR AS POSSIBLE.

[Mr_Tomahawk]

National media is cheering for the Chiefs to find success in the last qtr of the season.

No way Clark fires them now.

[Jimmy the Greek]

I just don't want chiefs fans to get any more negative references this year. I think Clark is going to do whatever he wants and really not sure he will listen either way

[ptlyon]

Donate whatever is leftover to the fund set up for the little girl.

Or create our own.

[Rausch]

The chiefs strapped on helmets and played the next game.

Life goes on.

I would love to see us use the SOC money for that newborn though. We could push $$$ through a number of charities but when given the opportunity to directly help a person we should take it...

[okoye35chiefs]

Donate whatever is leftover to the fund set up for the little girl.

Or create our own.

this is awesome

:clap:

[ILChief]

If the chiefs, nfl, and players set up a fund for the girl she will be set financially. I think donating to a women's shelter would be a better use of funds

[ptlyon]

If the chiefs, nfl, and players set up a fund for the girl she will be set financially. I think donating to a women's shelter would be a better use of funds

Then donate it to the ones in nebraska, funds are probably low after sunday

[Steron]

Donate whatever is leftover to the fund set up for the little girl.

Or create our own.

I like this. At least the money would stay in the Chiefs family.

[Phobia]

SOC already promised money to a local charity. The Belcher girl is going to be well cared for by current Chiefs players, family, the Hunts, NFLPA, and other folks who decide to put money towards her fund. The grand or so that will be left in the SOC banner fund at the end of the year isn't going to impact that little girl either way but it might make a difference for little boys and girls who weren't born with the silver spoon of the NFL.

[htismaqe]

SOC already promised money to a local charity. The Belcher girl is going to be well cared for by current Chiefs players, family, the Hunts, NFLPA, and other folks who decide to put money towards her fund. The grand or so that will be left in the SOC banner fund at the end of the year isn't going to impact that little girl either way but it might make a difference for little boys and girls who weren't born with the silver spoon of the NFL.

This.

[Marty Mac Ver 2.0]

Y'all are missing something here.

Flash forward to March 6, 2013. It' just another typical off-season day. Romeo Drives into the practice facility. Parks his car and has a flashback to Belcher ending his own life. Now move onto March 7, 2013 and the same thing occurs.

The point is this: What Romeo and Scott witnessed is a life-changing event and every day they are at the facility will be a haunting memory they can never escape. Smart money suggests both resign and everyone in the league from owners to personnel men to the media will totally understand why.

I just don't see how both want to continue in KC after this season.

[Spott]

Y'all are missing something here.

Flash forward to March 6, 2013. It' just another typical off-season day. Romeo Drives into the practice facility. Parks his car and has a flashback to Belcher ending his own life. Now move onto March 7, 2013 and the same thing occurs.

The point is this: What Romeo and Scott witnessed is a life-changing event and every day they are at the facility will be a haunting memory they can never escape. Smart money suggests both resign and everyone in the league from owners to personnel men to the media will totally understand why.

I just don't see how both want to continue in KC after this season.

We couldn't be that lucky. Chiefs fans never, ever, ever get that lucky. These guys need to be forced out with every possible effort. These bums get paid millions to do absolutely nothing for this team. One bad day isn't going to change anything for these losers.

[Hammock Parties]

I agree with Marty.

Not only do these guys have to go to work in a place they are both disliked, they are under a tremendous amount of stress after failing this year, may possibly be relying on a rookie QB to save their jobs, and get to walk through a place where they watched a guy die every day.

One of them is 65 years old. The other can walk away loaded down with Hunt money.

Why would they stay?

The burden is heavy at this point. They need not carry it. No one will praise them for it.

[Spott]

Why would they stay?


Because one has a giant ego because he happened to draft a great QB(after passing him over 5 times and who only got to play because Bledsoe got hurt) and the other one will never get another coaching job in this league if he retires and will insist on getting forced out.

[htismaqe]

Because one has a giant ego because he happened to draft a great QB(after passing him over 5 times and who only got to play because Bledsoe got hurt) and the other one will never get another coaching job in this leauge if he retires and will insist on getting forced out.

Um, him RETIRING implies he doesn't WANT another coaching job in this league.

He's 65 years old.

[htismaqe]

Y'all are missing something here.

Flash forward to March 6, 2013. It' just another typical off-season day. Romeo Drives into the practice facility. Parks his car and has a flashback to Belcher ending his own life. Now move onto March 7, 2013 and the same thing occurs.

The point is this: What Romeo and Scott witnessed is a life-changing event and every day they are at the facility will be a haunting memory they can never escape. Smart money suggests both resign and everyone in the league from owners to personnel men to the media will totally understand why.

I just don't see how both want to continue in KC after this season.

While I agree that both of them are going to be haunted by this for the rest of their lives, I don't believe them stepping away is going to be that quick and quiet.

[Strongside]

"WE STILL LOVE OUR CHIEFS-SAVEOURCHIEFS.COM"

Says shit still isn't good, but it's still supportive of the players/coaches regardless of how bad things are. And let's be honest...with everything that happens with this team, they're still our team. They may not win, but the guys on this team have been through a lot.

[Spott]

Um, him RETIRING implies he doesn't WANT another coaching job in this league.

He's 65 years old.

If he retires, he'd just retire from the Chiefs and end up somewhere else as an assistant within a year. He won't leave voluntarily unless he has something else lined up.

[KurtCobain]

I agree with the guys that think there will be a mutual parting at the end of the year. As pointed out Romeo is of retiring age. My grandma went into retiring age thinking she could work well into her 70s, but that didn't happen because she faced a year in her career much like Romeos. Failure by her entire staff, and a tramatic real life event at work, ala belcher. There comes an age when a year like this sends you to the beach.

And Pioli is a smart enough guy to know enough is enough, it's time to step away. Job just didnt work out.

[wazu]

I agree with the guys that think there will be a mutual parting at the end of the year. As pointed out Romeo is of retiring age. My grandma went into retiring age thinking she could work well into her 70s, but that didn't happen because she faced a year in her career much like Romeos. Failure by her entire staff, and a tramatic real life event at work, ala belcher. There comes an age when a year like this sends you to the beach.

And Pioli is a smart enough guy to know enough is enough, it's time to step away. Job just didnt work out.

ROFL

[KurtCobain]

ROFL

Ok, he hasn't shown that thus far, but he can't be stupid enough to stay after all this. It would be bad for his future career.

[Spott]

I agree with the guys that think there will be a mutual parting at the end of the year. As pointed out Romeo is of retiring age. My grandma went into retiring age thinking she could work well into her 70s, but that didn't happen because she faced a year in her career much like Romeos. Failure by her entire staff, and a tramatic real life event at work, ala belcher. There comes an age when a year like this sends you to the beach.
And Pioli is a smart enough guy to know enough is enough, it's time to step away. Job just didnt work out.

That would be a horrible sight.

[wazu]

Ok, he hasn't shown that thus far, but he can't be stupid enough to stay after all this. It would be bad for his future career.

I disagree. He'll fight tooth and nail to hold on. If he gets fired at the end of this season he leaves a team that after four years of his management will have a top 2 or 3 pick in the draft.

If he gets another year he might be able to halfway fix it to look more mediocre than terrible. If he leaves now he has absolutely zero success to point to as a reason that anybody should ever take a chance on him again. He won't go voluntarily.

[htismaqe]

If he retires, he'd just retire from the Chiefs and end up somewhere else as an assistant within a year. He won't leave voluntarily unless he has something else lined up.

He'd owe the Chiefs money then.

[htismaqe]

Ok, he hasn't shown that thus far, but he can't be stupid enough to stay after all this. It would be bad for his future career.

You're assuming he even WANTS a future career right now.

No, it's not probable. But it's definitely possible that he's ready to give up on football, at least for a while.

[BigRedChief]

Donate whatever is leftover to the fund set up for the little girl.

Or create our own.The Chiefs, players and the NFL have already set up a fund.

[Mr_Tomahawk]

So 70/30...we fly.

[BigRedChief]

So 70/30...we fly.Just make it positive. Nothing anti Pioli.

Draft a QB
Hope springs internal
etc.etc.

There have been several excellent suggestions.

[NJChiefsFan]

"WE STILL LOVE OUR CHIEFS-SAVEOURCHIEFS.COM"

Says shit still isn't good, but it's still supportive of the players/coaches regardless of how bad things are. And let's be honest...with everything that happens with this team, they're still our team. They may not win, but the guys on this team have been through a lot.

ROFL @ your signature banner. Did Bonekrusher do that for you?

As for Marty's post, while I agree that can happen I am not ready to just wait and hope that's the case. I would like to keep Clark aware that our feelings haven't changed.

[Mr_Tomahawk]

Just make it positive. Nothing anti Pioli.

Draft a QB
Hope springs internal
etc.etc.

There have been several excellent suggestions.

FIRE PIOLI - FIRE PIOLI - SAVEOURCHIEFS

[htismaqe]

FIRE PIOLI - FIRE PIOLI - SAVEOURCHIEFS

ROFL

[Marty Mac Ver 2.0]

We'll dial up the pressure in a tasteful way.

My post was simply to point out what the future holds. This could be a time when Clark allows both to resign, pays them and everyone moves on. There's no playbook to operate from in this situation. I just dont see how either or both can stay after seeing what they saw.

[Rausch]

We'll dial up the pressure in a tasteful way.

This...

[BigRedChief]

FIRE PIOLI - FIRE PIOLI - SAVEOURCHIEFSI agree that is a positive statement despite the dictionary definition.

[Nightfyre]

I think the emphasis should be on change in KC rather than specifically targeting Pioli and RAC. The message is the same but will reflect a whole lot better on the movement.

[BourbonMan]

WE STILL LOVE OUR CHIEFS-BUT FIRE PIOLI-SAVEOURCHIEFS.COM

I know it's too long..but something along those lines.


"WE STILL LOVE OUR CHIEFS-SAVEOURCHIEFS.COM"

Says shit still isn't good, but it's still supportive of the players/coaches regardless of how bad things are. And let's be honest...with everything that happens with this team, they're still our team. They may not win, but the guys on this team have been through a lot.

I think the emphasis should be on change in KC rather than specifically targeting Pioli and RAC. The message is the same but will reflect a whole lot better on the movement.

LOVE OUR CHIEFS-STILL NEED CHANGE

[NJChiefsFan]

We'll dial up the pressure in a tasteful way.
.

And this is another reason why I comfortably say keep going without having to explain. I have full trust that it will be done in the right way.

[Bump]

Fire Pioli

keep it nice and simple and strong

[acesn8s]

Yes and it should read "THE SEASON HAS BEEN A MIND BLOWING FAILURE"

[the Talking Can]

Yes and it should read "THE SEASON HAS BEEN A MIND BLOWING FAILURE"

my vote

[wazu]

Yes and it should read "THE SEASON HAS BEEN A MIND BLOWING FAILURE"

ROFL

[Reerun_KC]

firing pioli gives us hope

["Bob" Dobbs]

Here's the banner copy:

Well, bye! -- saveourchiefa.com

It's not negative, it's the end of the season, subtly jabs at Pioli, it implies that this renegade bunch of fans are saying "fuck it" to the team, AND works in some lexicon.

[stonedstooge]

DO THE RIGHT THING CLARK

[Reerun_KC]

Clark hates the fans, buy more beer.

[Phobia]

Renew? Cancel? Answer soon. saveourchiefs.com

[BigRedChief]

Here's the banner copy:

Well, bye! -- saveourchiefa.com

It's not negative, it's the end of the season, subtly jabs at Pioli, it implies that this renegade bunch of fans are saying "fuck it" to the team, AND works in some lexicon.the majority of the people seeing the banner will have no clue what the hell Well, bye means.

["Bob" Dobbs]

Eh. That's just an added bonus for CP'ers. People don't HAVE to make the connection to anything. I think it still works.

[BigMeatballDave]

DID YOU THINK A LITTLE MURDER/SUICIDE WOULD STOP US? - FIRE PIOLI

[Paniero]

I recommend flying one at an away game. This movement is national.

[ct]

Yes with something positive.

We love our chiefs. It is time for change.

[Chief_For_Life58]

Pioli: Belcher yourself. saveourchiefs.com

[Hootie]

Pioli: Belcher yourself. saveourchiefs.com

Jesus ROFL

[Direckshun]

Honestly, you guys have won. There really is no chance that the current regime stays.

These folks are going to be reeling from the Belcher tragedy for years.

You won. Give it a rest.

[Hammock Parties]

Only if you promise to NEVER start another "Pioli is cool" thread.

[Hootie]

I already forgot about the Belcher tragedy until someone mentioned it in this thread.

[NJChiefsFan]

Honestly, you guys have won. There really is no chance that the current regime stays.

You will have to forgive me for not being 100% comfortable on this until its official.

[Mr_Tomahawk]

Honestly, you guys have won. There really is no chance that the current regime stays.

These folks are going to be reeling from the Belcher tragedy for years.

You won. Give it a rest.

If this was true, Pioli would announce that he is resigning at the end of the season.

If Pioli is going to resign...why wait to announce it at the end of the season?

[Direckshun]

Only if you promise to NEVER start another "Pioli is cool" thread.

I threw my lot in with his process.

Didn't work out. You move on.

That's why pencils have erasers.

[Direckshun]

If this was true, Pioli would announce that he is resigning at the end of the season.

If Pioli is going to resign...why wait to announce it at the end of the season?

I don't know. But his contract is up, and he's not coming back. This isn't rocket science.

[Hammock Parties]

I threw my lot in with his process.

Didn't work out. You move on.

That's why pencils have erasers.

YOU'RE A GOOD MAN, CHARLIE BROWN.

[BigMeatballDave]

Honestly, you guys have won. There really is no chance that the current regime stays.

These folks are going to be reeling from the Belcher tragedy for years.

You won. Give it a rest.

I'll never believe until it is officially announced.

[BigMeatballDave]

I don't know. But his contract is up, and he's not coming back. This isn't rocket science.

Pioli's contract is NOT up.

[Chief_For_Life58]

piolis gonna be here next year to ruin this franchise some more. dont worry guys.

[Direckshun]

Jesus Christ, you paranoid motherfuckers.

[Direckshun]

I will enter into a bet with any one of you that Pioli is no longer our GM by Draft Day 2013.

Let's do this thing.

[Chief_For_Life58]

Clark: grow a pair. saveourchiefs.com

[Chief_For_Life58]

Clark: stop jerking piolis tatertot off. saveourchiefs.com

[Unsmooth-Moment]

Absolutely fly a banner. Unfortunately we may be on a 3 game winner.. Hopefully not.

[NJChiefsFan]

Jesus Christ, you paranoid mother****ers.

Pioli's contract is not up until next year. He would need to be fired/quit. Its likely one will happen, but to act like its fact when you are dealing with the Chiefs is crazy. We have all seen management and players kept well beyond points of reason.

[Phobia]

I have some kind of bet with one of those Save our fans crazies. He will wear a SOC logo on facebook for a week if Pioli is gone and I will wear a Pioli face on facebook if the Chiefs keep him

[AussieChiefsFan]

I have some kind of bet with one of those Save our fans crazies. He will wear a SOC logo on facebook for a week if Pioli is gone and I will wear a Pioli face on facebook if the Chiefs keep himIf you lose the bet, you could just have pioli's face and have "Fire Pioli" over it.

[patteeu]

I recommend flying one at an away game. This movement is national.

If they could fly over the stadium during gametime, which I'm sure they can't, it would have been great to fly one over Denver during the final game.

[patteeu]

Honestly, you guys have won. There really is no chance that the current regime stays.

These folks are going to be reeling from the Belcher tragedy for years.

You won. Give it a rest.

Giving it a rest can be mistaken for a movement that has run out of gas. Flying a banner with a reminder (in the form of a softer message) that SOC is still here and still focused on the goal, eliminates the potential for that mistaken impression.

[Ace Gunner]

Clean House -- No Candy Wrappers

[durtyrute]

The banner should show support for the team. One more banner isn't going to push Clark into firing Pioli.

[Rausch]

The banner should show support for the team.
Agreed.

One more banner isn't going to push Clark into firing Pioli.

Chinese water torture...

[BigMeatballDave]

I will enter into a bet with any one of you that Pioli is no longer our GM by Draft Day 2013.

Let's do this thing.

I'm not sold.

I still fear he'll be here.

[BourbonMan]

The banner should show support for the team. One more banner isn't going to push Clark into firing Pioli.

Agree..The one I suggest earlier fits this and also keeps with our Theme, without pointing directly at Pioli.

LOVE OUR CHIEFS-STILL NEED CHANGE-SAVEOURCHIEFS.COM

[durtyrute]

Agree..The one I suggest earlier fits this and also keeps with our Theme, without pointing directly at Pioli.

LOVE OUR CHIEFS-STILL NEED CHANGE-SAVEOURCHIEFS.COM

I like that, but isn't it too long?

[Marty Mac Ver 2.0]

"Victory - SaveOurChiefs.com"

[Hammock Parties]

"Victory - SaveOurChiefs.com"

http://i.imgur.com/K8Z8G.gif

[Molitoth]

NOW IT'S TIME FOR CHANGE - SAVEOURCHIEFS.COM

Perfect.

[Mr_Tomahawk]

I see these getting more aggressive after we get blown out by the Browns tomorrow...

[BigRedChief]

I see these getting more aggressive after we get blown out by the Browns tomorrow...No need. Pioli is gone at the end of the season. Too many rumors all saying the same thing from totally different places. Where there is smoke there is fire rule.

[Mr_Tomahawk]

No need. Pioli is gone at the end of the season. Too many rumors all saying the same thing from totally different places. Where there is smoke there is fire rule.

Where are these rumors?

[O.city]

I think the banner needs to be something stating SOC is still pressing.


"We're still here assholes, SOC"

[Mr_Tomahawk]

"We're still here assholes, SOC"

:clap:

[O.city]

It fits pretty well I think.

[mauifan]

Hell yes.., Step on their neck till you hear bones break in my opinion..,

[Mr_Tomahawk]

Anyone have a change of heart...?

[Marcellus]

Fire them all! - SOC.com

[DeezNutz]

Anyone have a change of heart...?

Nope. All of these motherfuckers must go.

[GloryDayz]

After today, it's full-on again. F*** um, fly as many banners as we can till the account runs dry!

[Marcellus]

Napalm isn't even enough - SOC.com

[Bob Dole]

How about:

There are no words. Saveourchiefs.com

[ILChief]

Can I change my vote?

[kcxiv]

Napalm isn't even enough - SOC.com

http://gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs7/3108691_o.gif

[Silock]

"We got blown out by the Browns - SaveOurChiefs"

[Easy 6]

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[Mr_Tomahawk]

Can I change my vote?

That's what I was looking for... :thumb:


Any more...?

[Spott]

So how's the banner for next coming along now?

[BigRedChief]

Anyone have a change of heart...?Fire everything we have at those FO cocksuckers.

[DeezNutz]

Fire everything we have at those FO one who sucks the peniss.

FAX is prepping a witty response which will reference a Yep volcano.

[scho63]

You should be flying a squadron of 10 planes!