University of Oregon Will Face Probe - Chip Kelly Will Go To the NFL

[Marty Mac Ver 2.0]

The University of Oregon is facing a likely NCAA investigation which means Chip Kelly is headed to the NFL. For what you ask? Improper recruiting and some improper relationships with people. Chip Kelly will be the head coach for 1 of 2 teams: Philadelphia Eagles or the Chiefs. Chiefs owner Clark Hunt has already had at least 2 discussions with Chip and rep's of Chip.

Working against the Chiefs: Eagles offering more money and Chip's family being rooted in the New Hampshire area.

When you start paying attention to the money trail, it's easy to see Chip's next move is the NFL.

[bevischief]

:banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead:

[the Talking Can]

oh hell yes

Chip and Geno

LET US DO THIS

[007]

interesting

[notorious]

Sounds good. I prefer Nick Saban, though.

[Deberg_1990]

Eagles or Chiefs?


Chiefs have no shot....

[Marco Polo]

Yes, please.

Chip and Geno.

[Marco Polo]

I read some rumors somewhere that Gruden would be interested in Philly. Hopefully Philly goes that route and we get Chip.

If you haven't read that article about how Chip uses math for his offensive plan, you need to. He uses math and logic instead of the good ol' boy gut feeling.

He's the moneyball of football.

[notorious]

Eagles or Chiefs?


Chiefs have no shot....



The AFC West is ripe for the picking, but it's not near the same level as the NFC east when it comes to media whoring.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Chip Kelly is far and away my top choice as coach. It helps both of my favorite football teams. The Chiefs, and The Washington Huskies. :p

[BlackHelicopters]

Can Chip hire a decent DC?

[the Talking Can]

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[notorious]

:facepalm:

College coaches can leave a program in a world of hurt at the drop of a hat.

[Imon Yourside]

Can Chip hire a decent DC?

Herm Edwards?

[Hammock Parties]

Chip and Geno sounds like a Saturday Morning Cartoon.

Let's do this.

And get someone named Dale that's a playmaker on offense.

[Canofbier]

The AFC West is ripe for the picking, but it's not near the same level as the NFC east when it comes to media whoring.

If recent reports are true, Chip hates that shit anyway. He's avoided the schmoozing and media events so much that his boosters apparently want him gone, despite the success that he's brought to the program. This might just happen!

[Toadkiller]

I love Chip, would love to see what he could bring to the NFL. He is a hard working coach, always prepared and always has his team prepared. Team him up with a DC and Geno and man you at least got some excitement.

[notorious]

If recent reports are true, Chip hates that shit anyway. He's avoided the schmoozing and media events so much that his boosters apparently want him gone, despite the success that he's brought to the program. This might just happen!

Let's hope so.

Philly fans are assholes because they are douchebag pieces of garbage. Chief's fans are assholes because we love our team and have been driven to the breaking point.

[the Talking Can]

imagine the media love if we're heading into the draft with the #1 pick and Chip Kelly making the leap....

there are some stories ready made...how will QB X develop, how will Kelly's offense transfer to the nfl, does this make the trend of spread offenses and QBs the new norm in the nfl...

if Clark wants some hype and excitement, make this happen

[Marty Mac Ver 2.0]

Verified. Very True!!!!!!!

If recent reports are true, Chip hates that shit anyway. He's avoided the schmoozing and media events so much that his boosters apparently want him gone, despite the success that he's brought to the program. This might just happen!

[Marty Mac Ver 2.0]

Chip in KC makes sense on so many levels...it means we are putting an offensive minded coach and a franchise QB into the same environment and doing it the RIGHT WAY

Same argument can be made of Jon Gruden and him bringing his brother Jay to town.

[Molitoth]

Chip is my number 1 choice.

[Imon Yourside]

Chip is my number 1 choice.

I'll go with this.

[King_Chief_Fan]

Herm Edwards?

no time to be funny

[Imon Yourside]

no time to be funny

heh, humor is all we have until after the season. :D

[Deberg_1990]

:facepalm:

College coaches can leave a program in a world of hurt at the drop of a hat.

Not sure if it ever got posted here, but Texas Tech coach Tuberville left his recruits at the Dinner table literally.


Its a dirty business....



http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2012/12/tommy_tuberville_left_recruits.html

[ZootedGranny]

If you haven't read that article about how Chip uses math for his offensive plan, you need to. He uses math and logic instead of the good ol' boy gut feeling.

He's the moneyball of football.

That's the main reason I'd love for the Chiefs to get him.

I don't know how well his offense would translate to the league, but just having a coach that logically and mathematically asseses game situations should give the Chiefs an advantage.

Here's the article: http://www.thepostgame.com/blog/men-action/201211/how-oregon-coach-chip-kelly-can-spark-moneyball-revolution-nfl

[ILChief]

I have thought Gruden to Philly. I hope I'm right. We really need Dallas to make the playoffs and force them to keep Garrett. That will keep another high profile/$$$ team out of play.

[The Franchise]

Barry just JIHP.

[DBOSHO]

TEAM CHOCOLATE CHIP.

[Hammock Parties]

TEAM CHOCOLATE CHIP.

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[Ceej]

I guess I don't know enough about the guy to be excited.

But, most anyone not named Romeo Crennel is fine by me!

[DaKCMan AP]

DaKCMan AP approves.

Working for the Chiefs: #1 overall pick.

[Marco Polo]

That's the main reason I'd love for the Chiefs to get him.

I don't know how well his offense would translate to the league, but just having a coach that logically and mathematically asseses game situations should give the Chiefs an advantage.

Here's the article: http://www.thepostgame.com/blog/men-action/201211/how-oregon-coach-chip-kelly-can-spark-moneyball-revolution-nfl

Thanks for finding it for me.

[mcaj22]

working against the Chiefs:

no real NFL talent to compete

[DaKCMan AP]

working against the Chiefs:

no real NFL talent to compete

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[notorious]

I don't know why everyone thinks he will bring his offense to the NFL.


He will probably bring some aspects of it to the NFL, but it will probably be quite a bit different.

[DaKCMan AP]

I don't know why everyone thinks he will bring his offense to the NFL.


He will probably bring some aspects of it to the NFL, but it will probably be quite a bit different.

It's not bringing his offense that matters. It's bringing his offensive mind, ability to gameplan and expose defensive weaknesses.

[Chiefnj2]

Someone refresh my recollection, was Tressel "banned" from coaching the NFL for a few years because of collegiate violations? Could the same thing happen to Kelly, or does the prospect of him bringing an innovative offense and $$ to the NFL override any possible "ban"?

[In58men]

I'd rather have a "proven NFL coach" such as Gruden or Cowher.

[DC.chief]

I hope this happens. He's been my #1 choice as well. Certainly would bring some excitement and media attention back to KC with Chip coaching and Geno swinging his giant chocolate wang around in the pocket

[Pushead2]

I'd rather have a "proven NFL coach" such as Gruden or Cowher.

Pass on both...

[HemiEd]

Eagles or Chiefs?


Chiefs have no shot....

They had no shot at the "Executive of the decade" either, but Clark ponied up the jack and got him. :banghead:

[CoMoChief]

I've been on the Chip Kelly wagon for a couple months now.

[DaKCMan AP]

Someone refresh my recollection, was Tressel "banned" from coaching the NFL for a few years because of collegiate violations? Could the same thing happen to Kelly, or does the prospect of him bringing an innovative offense and $$ to the NFL override any possible "ban"?

Tressel was punished severely because he had 4 opportunities to tell the truth and didn't.

The NFL suspended Tressel until game 7 when the Colts hired him as a consultant.

[notorious]

It's not bringing his offense that matters. It's bringing his offensive mind, ability to gameplan and expose defensive weaknesses.

YES.


I heard an interview of Tulsa's head coach about 5 years ago. They asked him why his offense is so good yet he has been a defensive coordinator/coach his entire career.

He answered,"On the offensive side of the ball, we gameplan and execute EVERYTHING that I hated to defend against."

Simple yet powerful.

[J Diddy]

YES.


I heard an interview of Tulsa's head coach about 5 years ago. They asked him why his offense is so good yet he has been a defensive coordinator/coach his entire career.

He answered,"On the offensive side of the ball, we gameplan and execute EVERYTHING that I hated to defend against."

Simple yet powerful.

That sounds so guntheresque

[notorious]

That sounds so guntheresque

Except the Tulsa coach actually succeeded with the idea.

Well, I guess Gunther had some decent offenses.

[Dave Lane]

I'd rather have a "proven NFL coach" such as Gruden or Cowher.

Yes I bet you would.

[CoMoChief]

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yes please

[DrunkBassGuitar]

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I fucking love Japan

[Dave Lane]

I've been on the Chip Kelly wagon for a couple months now.

Now this is very very troubling. Kelly might be totally disqualified now.

[ChiefRocka]

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Q

[O.city]

Curious as to who he would bring in as the DC?

[KCrockaholic]

Well. The Eagles will be working with Foles or a rookie in 2013. Vick looks like he's not staying. The Chiefs will have Geno Smith. I'll be ecstatic if he can get Geno and Chip.

Another thing, if it's true that Clark has been in contact with Chip, that tells me he is trying to target his head coach before bringing in a GM. Sounds like Hunt is wanting to use more control. Last time it seemed that he left everything up to Pioli when he went and got Todd.

[MahiMike]

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What the?

[beach tribe]

They had no shot at the "Executive of the decade" either, but Clark ponied up the jack and got him. :banghead:

Money Talks, and Clark has proven that he will pony up the dough to get the guys he wants.

[BigMeatballDave]

I'd rather have a "proven NFL coach" such as Gruden or Cowher.

Yeah, I'm sure Seattle and SF fans feel the same way...

[MahiMike]

Chip Kelly is my numero uno choice. This is great news! As far as leverage goes, we got the #1 pick baby!

[big nasty kcnut]

Fuck nick sabin. I dont want him on the chiefs chip kelly better deal.

[Mr. Laz]

Eagles or Chiefs?


Chiefs have no shot....working against the Chiefs:

no real NFL talent to competebullshit to both

with the option of grabbing Geno smith and an owner who is the epitome of 'hands off'. If we hire a respectable GM the only real edge Philly will have is market size.

[Tribal Warfare]

I haven't watched a lot of the Oregon Ducks, does Kelly favor the 3-4 or the 4-3?

[O.city]

I'm really not sure what defense they use.

I really wanna stick with the 34, but if he wants to change so be it.

[Shox]

I have very mixed emotion. Historically these types of offenses have not proven to be successful on a permanent basis in the NFL. Teams who are consistently successful play tough physical football.

On the other hand the NFL is changing. They are really making it very hard for players to play physical....can't go low, can't TOUCH them up high, hit any receiver hard before he gets to the ground and it is almost certain to draw a flag. Talking about eliminating kickoffs, etc etc.
So Chip might he the right guy at the right time.

It's an upgrade I'm sure.

[Tribal Warfare]

I'm really not sure what defense they use.

I really wanna stick with the 34, but if he wants to change so be it.

Hali is very average in that set so it bothers me if they switch back.

[Hammock Parties]

Teams who are consistently successful play tough physical football.


LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO

LET'S DO THIS

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[O.city]

Most offenses, good ones atleast, are incorporating alot of his philosophies.

I love love love the way he attacks the defense, instead of sitting back and taking what they give.

[KCrockaholic]

They run a 3-4 as their base.

[O.city]

Here is what we're gonna do.


We are gonna have two head coaches. Chip Kelly is gonna be the offensive guy and Cowher will take care of the defense. Winning.

[Mr. Laz]

Hali is very average in that set so it bothers me if they switch back.
Hali lines up RDE 99% right now

the only difference is that Dorsey is committed to plugging the gap first and not shooting through beside Hali. This provides more run support than in a 4-3 which helps.

But I believe Hali has just gotten better and will continue to be better in a 4-3.

especially if we go with big run stuffers in the middle

[Tribal Warfare]

Hali lines up RDE 99% right now

the only difference is that Dorsey is committed to plugging the gap first and not shooting through beside Hali. This provides more run support than in a 4-3 which helps.

But I believe Hali has just gotten better and will continue to be better in a 4-3.

especially if we go with big run stuffers in the middle

Hali is a Rushbacker in the 3-4 he's very seldom used as a RDE.

[O.city]

I don't really see that.


We know he's good in the 34, but in the 43 we would have to hope he would improve.

I'm starting to become pretty fearful of taking or switching to something where someone has to "change" to become successful.

IMO, it's why alot of Scotts draft picks have been underwhelming. They're talented, but they aren't put in situations where they can succeed.

[Chief Faithful]

I love these feel good threads. :grovel:

[mcaj22]

I don't really see that.


We know he's good in the 34, but in the 43 we would have to hope he would improve.

I'm starting to become pretty fearful of taking or switching to something where someone has to "change" to become successful.

IMO, it's why alot of Scotts draft picks have been underwhelming. They're talented, but they aren't put in situations where they can succeed.

Jon Baldwin getting 40 some snaps and catching 0 passes is not putting him in a situation where he can show something? Really? Bowe being injured and blacklisting Breaston isnt trying to showcase Baldwin or McCluster to succeed, but they are so ****ing bad that nobody is afraid of them in terms of gameplanning or shutting down.

the only one you can make a case for is constantly dropped Houston in coverage, which is absolutely stupid. And trying to make Eric Berry the next Ed Reed/Charles Woodson stupid 3rd safety role garbage coming off injury.

[BigMeatballDave]

working against the Chiefs:

no real NFL talent to compete

:spock:

WTF is your problem?

You gotta be really fucking dumb if you actually believe this.

[the Talking Can]

if clark is actually out front on this, already reaching out to kelly, that would change my opinion of him...he has never struck me as forward thinking

bringing kelly is a risky move, but the right kind of risk, imo...

and Kelly will take one look at Geno's penis and fall deeply in love

[Mr. Laz]

Hali is a Rushbacker in the 3-4 he's very seldom used as a RDE.
The Chiefs line Hali up on the LOS on the right end position 99% of the time.

occasionally he moves over to the LDE side ... rarely he drops back into coverage.

He basically plays RDE even if it's not called that

like i said, he gets help protecting him against the run more than a traditional RDE does but so do most 'speed rushers'.

[the Talking Can]

and i hope we don't abandon the 3-4...i prefer it

[Hammock Parties]

and Kelly will take one look at Geno's penis and fall deeply in love

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[Mr. Laz]

if clark is actually out front on this, already reaching out to kelly, that would change my opinion of him...he has never struck me as forward thinking

bringing kelly is a risky move, but the right kind of risk, imo...

and Kelly will take one look at Geno's penis and fall deeply in love
You really think that Clark is going to hire a HC before a GM?


he is going to have to move fast

[Mr. Laz]

and i hope we don't abandon the 3-4...i prefer it

my 1st preference would be go to a 1-gap/2-gap hybrid 3-4 system

[DaKCMan AP]

Jon Baldwin getting 40 some snaps and catching 0 passes is not putting him in a situation where he can show something? Really? Bowe being injured and blacklisting Breaston isnt trying to showcase Baldwin or McCluster to succeed, but they are so ****ing bad that nobody is afraid of them in terms of gameplanning or shutting down.

the only one you can make a case for is constantly dropped Houston in coverage, which is absolutely stupid. And trying to make Eric Berry the next Ed Reed/Charles Woodson stupid 3rd safety role garbage coming off injury.

O im surry. iz john bildwan supozt to trow & catch 1t?

[DaKCMan AP]

:spock:

WTF is your problem?

You gotta be really fucking dumb if you actually believe this.

He's a douche. And stupid. A stupid douche.

[the Talking Can]

You really think that Clark is going to hire a HC before a GM?


he is going to have to move fast

no clue...

[Lex Luthor]

Yeah, I'm sure Seattle and SF fans feel the same way...

Pete Carroll was head coach of the Jets and Patriots in the 1990s, and his Patriots team won a division title. He was a proven NFL head coach.

However, I think Chip Kelly would be a fantastic hire for the Chiefs.

[wazu]

All this news, and I still feel like I have no idea what the fuck is going on. All sounds good, though, so I guess that's a positive.

[the Talking Can]

kelly is smart enough to figure it out

if he fails, it won't be because he's stubborn about his system...i think you give him a year to adapt, Geno Smith, and a veteran DC and he's raping face just like in college

[Hammock Parties]

Chip Kelly might prefer a less stressful environment than Philadelphia for his first NFL job, me thinks.

A lot less pressure in KC.

Can go 8-8 and keep your job. :)

[Chief Faithful]

IMO, it's why alot of Scotts draft picks have been underwhelming. They're talented, but they aren't put in situations where they can succeed.

:rockon:

This team is so much more talented than their performance. This season is all on Pioli, Crennel and Dabol who should all be fired first order after the last game this season. They have to address QB, WR and play calling before this team can even be respectable. I believe a HC like Chip Kelly would be one step in the right direction. Cutting Cassel and Quinn would be another step.

[Chief_For_Life58]

oh my sweet jesus clark I will love you forever if you get chip and geno. u will never ever be criticized for not wanting to again. omg this would be epic. chip and geno FTMFW!!!!

[DeezNutz]

Risky. Not opposed to it. Didn't think that Clark would go this direction after the disasters of Pioli and his merry band of dipshits.

Biggest positive is that it would show that Hunt has foresight and balls. Eventually, these traits will pay off for the Chiefs.

[the Talking Can]

Eventually, these traits will pay off for the Chiefs.

yes

[O.city]

It is risky, but I like it.


However, I would prefer Cowher, but I am really coming around to an offensive type guy.


Although in the end, again, I don't really think it matters as long as Geno turns out.

[Strongside]

Chip & Geno. Brought to you by Cartoon Network.

I love this.

Seats will be filled...games will be won.

[jspchief]

Kelly is an exciting prospect.

Here is my biggest concern: he has zero connections to NFL coaching circles to help in building a staff. He didn't even build his staff at Oregon, its made up of holdovers from the previous staff.

I don't know how he'll assemble a coaching staff. That may be where the GM becomes most important. Then there's always the issue of chemistry when putting together guys that may have different views of how things are done. Particularly if when you consider it would be a college guy potentially clashing with NFL guys.

[PRIEST]

Eagles or Chiefs?


Chiefs have no shot....

This :deevee:

[Tribal Warfare]

The Chiefs line Hali up on the LOS on the right end position 99% of the time.

occasionally he moves over to the LDE side ... rarely he drops back into coverage.

He basically plays RDE even if it's not called that

like i said, he gets help protecting him against the run more than a traditional RDE does but so do most 'speed rushers'.

He's in a two point stance in most of the formations and sub formations where they have two lineman with their hand on the ground. When he was a pure DE he was averaging 8.8 sacks in his first 3 years in the 4-3 and just 3 sacks when he played RDE full time. in the 3-4 Hali totaled 11.7 sacks in his first 3 years in comparison.

[O.city]

Kelly is an exciting prospect.

Here is my biggest concern: he has zero connections to NFL coaching circles to help in building a staff. He didn't even build his staff at Oregon, its made up of holdovers from the previous staff.

I don't know how he'll assemble a coaching staff. That may be where the GM becomes most important. Then there's always the issue of chemistry when putting together guys that may have different views of how things are done. Particularly if when you consider it would be a college guy potentially clashing with NFL guys.

I noticed this when looking at the current staff he has at Oregon. The staff he has there, were pretty much all there already.

[Mr. Laz]

He's in a two point stance in most of the formations and sub formations where they have two lineman with their hand on the ground. When he was a pure DE he was averaging 8.8 sacks in his first 3 years in the 4-3 and just 3 sacks when he played RDE full time. in the 3-4 Hali totaled 11.7 sacks in his first 3 years in comparison.
hmmm ... i see him using 3-points stance all the time. :hmmm:

would be interesting to see the stats on his snaps 2-point vs 3-point



besides he can play the same way in a 4-3 defense as he does now.

[Mr. Laz]

High risk/High reward

could be a train wreck

[Chief_For_Life58]

how do we know this is really true though?

[Strongside]

High risk/High reward

could be a train wreck

But a train wreck that puts up 30 a game.

[Saulbadguy]

Cheating assholes.

[ChiefRocka]

High risk/High reward

could be a train wreck

Pioli was low risk, no reward. I'll take my chances.

[O.city]

hmmm ... i see him using 3-points stance all the time. :hmmm:

would be interesting to see the stats on his snaps 2-point vs 3-point



besides he can play the same way in a 4-3 defense as he does now.

We've seen that he's better in a 34 than he was in a 43, why would you wanna change?

[ChiliConCarnage]

When Gameday was in Oregon they had a feature that detailed his travel to Africa over the offseason. Seemed like a decent guy.

I'm sure I've heard throughout the season that Belichick worked with him to tweak the Patriots offense. Does he have any NFL experience though?
I did a search and apparently he has no NFL experience

[Tribal Warfare]

besides he can play the same way in a 4-3 defense as he does now.

His stats and play in the 4-3 dictate otherwise. He got beast raped by linemen when they ran at him in the said formation too. Hence, rumblings that he was a bust among some forum members.

[DaKCMan AP]

how do we know this is really true though?

My fortune cookie said so.

[wazu]

High risk/High reward

could be a train wreck

High risk/rewards sounds good to me. I'll be all-in on Chip Kelly/Geno Smith if that's what we get. Imagine if it worked and these two built a decade+ of dominating offense and awesomeness.

When what you've been trying never works, it's time to try something new.

[jspchief]

Why are you guys arguing about the 4-3? It's not like Kelly is a 4-3 guy. The defense was put in by the DC that's been Oregons DC for something like 15 years.

[shitgoose]

You really think that Clark is going to hire a HC before a GM?


he is going to have to move fast

perhaps the new gm is already a done deal. now on to HC and Clark wants to get his guy

[suds79]

High risk/rewards sounds good to me. I'll be all-in on Chip Kelly/Geno Smith if that's what we get. Imagine if it worked and these two built a decade+ of dominating offense and awesomeness.

When what you've been trying never works, it's time to try something new.

I have zero doubt that Chip Kelly would help creating in making Geno Smith a superstar in the league.

[RealSNR]

O im surry. iz john bildwan supozt to trow & catch 1t?

2-12 with the worst HC, worst QB, and worst GM in the NFL?

MUST BE THE TALENT.

[Titty Meat]

No thanks. That gimmick offense won't work in the pros and he always loses the big game.

[ModSocks]

LMAO

Imagine if Clark landed Chip.

His entire narrative would change.

He would go from "Cheap & doesn't care about winning" to "He will pay for the best, and he always gets the man he wants"

[Mr. Laz]

We've seen that he's better in a 34 than he was in a 43, why would you wanna change?didn't say i WANTED to change

in fact, i said my preference would be going to a 1-gap/2-gap hybrid 3-4 system.


we are just discussing our options IF the new guy does change.

[Fat Elvis]

If Chip Kelly comes to KC, we will need someone like Russ Ball to be the GM.

If there is one thing that might persuade Kelly to come to KC, it is the fact that Clark is a numbers/mathematics guy himself. Furthermore, I think Clark would love to have the opportunity to put his own personal stamp on the NFL much in the same way his father did; allowing a coach like Kelly to play his style of ball would revolutionize the NFL almost as much as creating a "new" league. In KC, Kelly would have the time to make his style of football work. In Philly, he would probably have a much shorter window of opportunity--if it didn't work the first year, they would probably demand that he become more conservative.

Russ Ball would be an ideal fit as GM if Chip Kelly came to KC since he would let the coach draft who he wanted and needed to make the team work; Ball would just make sure that everyone who needed to be on the team could fit on the team financially--and he is a genius at that. Ball has KC connections and is well liked around the league. He is not a media whore, but at the same time, he is not secretive like Pioli.

With the combination of these two guys, people would want to be fans of the Chiefs again.

[Mr. Arrowhead]

If Chip ever had a QB like Geno at Oregon, they might have averaged 70 a game. Most of the time he made his QBs look alot better than they really were.

[Mr. Laz]

perhaps the new gm is already a done deal. now on to HC and Clark wants to get his guy
possible i guess but that means Clark was interviewing while he still had a GM.

kind of a no-no


maybe he told Pioli he was gone several weeks ago ... dunno.

[wazu]

I wonder, if the Polian rumors are true, if Clark is pursuing Chip on Polian's request. If Clark is talking to HCs, it stands to reason that he is doing it after already having verbal agreement from the GM-in-waiting.

[wazu]

perhaps the new gm is already a done deal. now on to HC and Clark wants to get his guy

Just now seeing this post. Yes, I agree.

[Saulbadguy]

No thanks. That gimmick offense won't work in the pros and he always loses the big game.
I don't think he'd try to run that offense in the NFL.

[ModSocks]

I wonder, if the Polian rumors are true, if Clark is pursuing Chip on Polian's request. If Clark is talking to HCs, it stands to reason that he is doing it after already having verbal agreement from the GM-in-waiting.

OR it could simply mean that Clark want's first dibs on the hottest name on the market.

[Rausch]

OR it could simply mean that Clark want's first dibs on the hottest name on the market.

That would be nice for a change.

I don't know squat about the guy but new QB/GM/HC buys him a season of love alone...

[HTrayne]

Kelly is an exciting prospect.

Here is my biggest concern: he has zero connections to NFL coaching circles to help in building a staff. He didn't even build his staff at Oregon, its made up of holdovers from the previous staff.

I don't know how he'll assemble a coaching staff. That may be where the GM becomes most important. Then there's always the issue of chemistry when putting together guys that may have different views of how things are done. Particularly if when you consider it would be a college guy potentially clashing with NFL guys.

Kelly spent time with Belichick and Gruden this past offseason watching tape. I think he has more connections than we think.

[Lzen]

working against the Chiefs:

no real NFL talent to compete

You really are dumb. :doh!:

[Chief_For_Life58]

I wonder, if the Polian rumors are true, if Clark is pursuing Chip on Polian's request. If Clark is talking to HCs, it stands to reason that he is doing it after already having verbal agreement from the GM-in-waiting.

oh my sweet baby jesus.

Superbowls

[The Franchise]

I'd rather have Gamble and Kelly.

[BigMeatballDave]

No thanks. That gimmick offense won't work in the pros and he always loses the big game.

Someone always has to come along and spoil the fun.

[O.city]

I really want nothing to do with Polian.

[Lzen]

I don't know if it's been asked already (and I'm not looking through the entire thread to find out) but is there a link to this info in the thread starter?

[BigMeatballDave]

I really want nothing to do with Polian.

Not crazy about him, but at least he knows how important the QB is to building a winner.

[Tribal Warfare]

I'd rather have Gamble and Kelly.

It could very well be him, because if you remember the rumors that Clark had a short list of GM canidates and Russ Gamble was one of them on the list

[O.city]

Not crazy about him, but at least he knows how important the QB is to building a winner.

I just don't like the way he runs the stuff at all, seems alot like Pioli. Plus, I think it's a way to get his son into the picture, who I want nothing at all to do with.


One guy I've been doing some research on, is Tom Gamble. I know some on here talked about him, but I think hes the guy I'd target.

[The Franchise]

It could very well be him, because if you remember the rumors that Clark had a short list of GM canidates and Russ Gamble was one of them on the list

Did you combine Russ Ball and Tom Gamble? :D

[listopencil]

No thanks. That gimmick offense won't work in the pros and he always loses the big game.


I haven't really looked very closely at his Offense. It's my understanding that he spreads his skill players out, thus stretching the field horizontally and forcing the Defense to reveal tendencies/coverages. This makes the QB's reads easier to see and opens up running lanes. How is that a gimmick that won't translate into the new "hands off or it's a flag" NFL?

[King_Chief_Fan]

Did you combine Russ Ball and Tom Gamble? :D

no cause if he had it would have been Tom Ball:)

[listopencil]

Oh and I forgot to mention the up tempo no-huddle. That's working really well for the Pats and the Broncos. You have to have a franchise QB to make it work, but it works quite well.

[htismaqe]

I want Geno.

Kelly would be alright but not real excited about anyone other than Geno.

[notorious]

Oh and I forgot to mention the up tempo no-huddle. That's working really well for the Pats and the Broncos. You have to have a franchise QB to make it work, but it works quite well.

That's it?


Why haven't the Chiefs ran this offense sooner?

[O.city]

I want Geno.

Kelly would be alright but not real excited about anyone other than Geno.

I don't really care who we pair with him, as long as we jump on Geno.

[Mr. Laz]

I think it's more about Kelly's offensive ingenuity than a specific system.

we'll see if it carries over to the NFL

[notorious]

I think it's more about Kelly's offensive ingenuity than a specific system.

we'll see if it carries over to the NFL

He thinks outside the box.

When is the last time we had a coach at any position that did that?

[FloridaMan88]

Chip Kely has zero experience... as a player or a coach in the NFL.

Chip Kelly's offense is NOT a pass first offense (Oregon is ranked 67th in the country in passing yards per game this year, 68th in 2011, 39th in 2010, 98th in 2009, 67th in 2008 and 64th in 2007... those are all the years Kelly has been either HC or OC at Oregon).

Why do people think that a lifetime college coach will suddenly work in the NFL? They haven't in the past. Jimmy Johnson is the only guy I can think of who has made the successful jump from college to the NFL without having any previous NFL coaching experience.

Jim Harbaugh and Pete Carroll were NFL guys coaching in college.

[O.city]

He thinks outside the box.

When is the last time we had a coach at any position that did that?

Last year?

[FloridaMan88]

I think it's more about Kelly's offensive ingenuity than a specific system.

we'll see if it carries over to the NFL

Let another franchise take those long odds.

The Chiefs can't miss with their next GM or HC hire.

[Tribal Warfare]

Chip Kely has zero experience... as a player or a coach in the NFL.



I believe Jimmy Johnson was in that category when he got the Cowboys job.

[Dayze]

fuck itl...I'm down with it.

tired of the same retreads over and over and over.

just win...that's all I care abot

[FloridaMan88]

I believe Jimmy Johnson was in that category when he got the Cowboys job.

Correct... Jimmy Johnson is the only guy in the last 30+ years to make the successful transition from college to the NFL (without having any previous NFL coaching experience).

Also Jimmy ran a pro-style offense at Miami.

[jd1020]

He thinks outside the box.

When is the last time we had a coach at any position that did that?

I think this regime thinks outside the box, personally.

Not many in the box would stick with Cassel or constantly call plays that aren't designed to pick up the necessary yards to get a first down.

[DaKCMan AP]

Let another franchise take those long odds.

The Chiefs can't miss with their next GM or HC hire.

Considering you wanted Pioli & McDaniels last time - who are your picks now?

[listopencil]

Chip Kely has zero experience... as a player or a coach in the NFL.

Chip Kelly's offense is NOT a pass first offense (Oregon is ranked 67th in the country in passing yards per game this year, 68th in 2011, 39th in 2010, 98th in 2009, 67th in 2008 and 64th in 2007... those are all the years Kelly has been either HC or OC at Oregon).

Why do people think that a lifetime college coach will suddenly work in the NFL? They haven't in the past. Jimmy Johnson is the only guy I can think of who has made the successful jump from college to the NFL without having any previous NFL coaching experience.

Jim Harbaugh and Pete Carroll were NFL guys coaching in college.


Because he comes across as a strong administrator with a solid organizational system, but still demonstrates creativity and effectiveness on the operational side.

[Lzen]

Considering you wanted Pioli & McDaniels last time - who are your picks now?

Oh really? :hmmm:

Ok, that settles it. We should do the opposite of what Hugh Janus wants to do. :D

[FloridaMan88]

Kyle Shanahan is using an "outside of the box" offense in Washington this year with RGIII.

The difference is Kyle Shanahan is successfully doing it against the likes of the NY Giants, Baltimore Ravens, etc.

Chip Kelly's only proven track record is against the likes of Washington State, Oregon State, etc.

Stanford is the closest team to having an NFL caliber defense on Oregon's schedule this year, and Stanford shut down Kelly's offense.

Kelly's offenses have also been abysmal in their recent match-ups again SEC teams with future NFL talent on defense (LSU in 2011 and Auburn in 2010).

[FloridaMan88]

Because he comes across as a strong administrator with a solid organizational system, but still demonstrates creativity and effectiveness on the operational side.

You could have said that about Steve Spurrier when he left Florida for the Redskins.

[Fat Elvis]

Let another franchise take those long odds.

The Chiefs can't miss with their next GM or HC hire.

Screw that. I'd rather see the Chiefs try to redefine the game and lose than do the same thing as everyone else and be mediocre. You understand that about 1/3 of the league doesn't make it to the playoffs every year, don't you?

We suck so bad because we've never taken any gamble--long or short.

I say, "Let it ride."

Give me a grand experiment. If it works, then we've been witness to history. If it doesn't work, then at least we've tried something radically different.

[Brock]

Considering you wanted Pioli & McDaniels last time - who are your picks now?

:clap:

[The Franchise]

I have a feeling that Clark is going to go with a veteran coach. He's going to want a name that can bring back the fans.

[jd1020]

Considering you wanted Pioli & McDaniels last time - who are your picks now?

A.J. Smith and Norv Turner.

[ChiefsHawk]

skipped some of the thread....chip kelly and rex ryan as dc??

[Dayze]

Just back up the truck full of cash to bring in Payton. So much so, that he'll have to take it over Dallas. Let him pick his QB.

remind him that he'd be the coach of a team with Romo as the QB.

[Fat Elvis]

Kyle Shanahan is using an "outside of the box" offense in Washington this year with RGIII.

The difference is Kyle Shanahan is successfully doing it against the likes of the NY Giants, Baltimore Ravens, etc.

Chip Kelly's only proven track record is against the likes of Washington State, Oregon State, etc.

Stanford is the closest team to having an NFL caliber defense on Oregon's schedule this year, and Stanford shut down Kelly's offense.

Kelly's offenses have also been abysmal in their recent match-ups again SEC teams with future NFL talent on defense (LSU in 2011 and Auburn in 2010).


Maybe this is because Oregon doesn't have NFL caliber players on offense? Give him some players with say, NFL talent, and lets see what he can do....

Here is a list of current Ducks in the NFL.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/complete-list-oregon-ducks-football-players-nfl-192600289--nfl.html

Oddly, the most prominant Ducks in the NFL are on defense.

[FloridaMan88]

Just back up the truck full of cash to bring in Payton. So much so, that he'll have to take it over Dallas. Let him pick his QB.

remind him that he'd be the coach of a team with Romo as the QB.

Not a bad idea, but Clark will never do this.

[Fat Elvis]

skipped some of the thread....chip kelly and rex ryan as dc??

I want nothing to do with anyone with the last name of Ryan on this team. That is an ongoing distraction that this team doesn't need.

[Dayze]

I think Payton would be the only re-tread I'd be excited about.
Otherwise I'd want to try something completely out of the box; like a Chip Kelly or somone out of left field etc.

[Shag]

I'd be surprised to see Clark go that route, but I'd be in favor of giving it a shot. Risky, but could also potentially put us on the front end of a new trend in the NFL, rather than chasing other teams successes...

[WilliamTheIrish]

Oh really? :hmmm:

Ok, that settles it. We should do the opposite of what Hugh Janus wants to do. :D

By CoMo likes the idea. Do they cancel each other out?

[DeezNutz]

Not having to hear anything about "The ___ Way" would be pretty fucking great.

[Dayze]

chiefs should focus on making a "Chiefs Way".

they need to innovate, not duplicate.

[Sorter]

Kyle Shanahan is using an "outside of the box" offense in Washington this year with RGIII.

The difference is Kyle Shanahan is successfully doing it against the likes of the NY Giants, Baltimore Ravens, etc.

Chip Kelly's only proven track record is against the likes of Washington State, Oregon State, etc.

Stanford is the closest team to having an NFL caliber defense on Oregon's schedule this year, and Stanford shut down Kelly's offense.

Kelly's offenses have also been abysmal in their recent match-ups again SEC teams with future NFL talent on defense (LSU in 2011 and Auburn in 2010).

Yeah, it isn't like Kelly had success against Stanford the previous 2 years...

[RealSNR]

Mike Shanahan is using an "outside of the box" offense in Washington this year with RGIII.

The difference is Mike Shanahan is successfully doing it against the likes of the NY Giants, Baltimore Ravens, etc.

Chip Kelly's only proven track record is against the likes of Washington State, Oregon State, etc.

Stanford is the closest team to having an NFL caliber defense on Oregon's schedule this year, and Stanford shut down Kelly's offense.

Kelly's offenses have also been abysmal in their recent match-ups again SEC teams with future NFL talent on defense (LSU in 2011 and Auburn in 2010).FYP

[Bump]

maybe we can get a rotation of some badass uniforms

[Dayze]

Personally, I wouldn't mind seeing a change to our uniforms.

I've been wanting metal flake in our helmets for years.

seems like teams with new / changed uniforms always go to super bowls lol

[RunKC]

Chip Kelly would mean bringing an offense back like DV days.

I really hope Clark gets a GM who gets a good DC this time. That would be key if we hired Chip.

[Red Beans]

chiefs should focus on making a "Chiefs Way".

they need to innovate, not duplicate.

Preach it brother!

[RealSNR]

Personally, I wouldn't mind seeing a change to our uniforms.

I've been wanting metal flake in our helmets for years.

seems like teams with new / changed uniforms always go to super bowls lol

Oh, like the Steelers, Saints, and Packers you mean?

[Dayze]

Oh, like the Steelers, Saints, and Packers you mean?

:harumph:
well.....aside from those. :D

[HTrayne]

Chip Kelly is the answer and the fit here. I don't think Cowher & Gruden are motivated enough to build something long-term since they've won their championships; Clark wants a leadership team in place for a long time. He wants stability.

Bringing Kelly in, having similar personalities, giving him the 1st overall pick, letting him have control over the football side of things without a Pioli type interfering and I think it's a good situation for Kelly. In Philly, he'll have to deal with tough media & fans, and Jeffrey Lurie always bumping his arrogant nose into football business. Plus, Kelly has to like the idea of the Chiefs' young, talented offensive line talent, pro bowlers on defense, and of course, Jamaal Charles.

As for a uniform change, as much as I'd like to see a "modern alternate concept" where Nike gives the Chiefs the Oregon-treatment, Clark will never deviate from our look, and he's said that much. Still, a once-or-twice per year alternative would be cool, with what Nike & HGI can do now with uniforms & helmets.

[Sorter]

Kelly's zone blocking philosophies + Charles= :)

[DaKCMan AP]

Kelly's zone blocking philosophies + Charles= :)

Hell, Kelly would even find usefulness for McCluster. :eek:

[RealSNR]

:harumph:
well.....aside from those. :D

Cardinals and Giants?

Gotcha.

[Dayze]

and those.

other than that. lol

at this point, I could care less if the Chiefs went to all black uniforms; shit, even hot pink.

the need to do the metal flake though.

[HTrayne]

Kelly's zone blocking philosophies + Charles= :)

Cutback city. McCluster, Draughn, Gray, too.

[Bump]

ya, I'm down for Kelly. Let's do this!

[Dayze]

let's innovate and rape faces.

[RealSNR]

Cutback city. McCluster, Draughn, Gray, too.

Or.... just Charles.

I don't give a shit about any of those guys, and I kind of hope especially that McCluster and Draughn are no longer with the team by Week 1 of 2013

[tk13]

Yeah, it isn't like Kelly had success against Stanford the previous 2 years...

Kelly got completely outcoached by Shaw in their meeting this year.
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[ShowtimeSBMVP]

Yahoo Sports reported Wednesday that Oregon is likely headed toward a hearing with the NCAA committee on infractions after it could not resolve an investigation of the football coaching staff’s use of a scouting service.

Yahoo cited two unidentified sources in a report Wednesday.

The NCAA investigated Oregon after questions arose over a 2010 payment of $25,000 to Willie Lyles and his Houston-based recruiting service. Lyles had a relationship with a player from Texas who committed to Oregon.

In July 2011, Lyles told Yahoo Sports the money was for influencing recruits to attend Oregon.

Earlier this year, Oregon requested a summary disposition in the case. The school presented a report to the infractions committee outlining violations the school thought occurred and appropriate sanctions. But that request was apparently turned down.

The NCAA does not comment on investigations. An email sent to Oregon seeking comment was not immediately returned.

Read more here: http://www.thenewstribune.com/2012/12/20/2409122/oregon-faces-ncaa-hearing.html#storylink=cpy



Hearing lol not a Probe.

[ptlyon]

Hell, Kelly would even find usefulness for McCluster. :eek:

Gatorade boy?

[Mr. Laz]

skipped some of the thread....chip kelly and rex ryan as dc??
nooooo ... Ryan would ride roughshod over a n00b NFL coach. imo

[The Franchise]

Or.... just Charles.

I don't give a shit about any of those guys, and I kind of hope especially that McCluster and Draughn are no longer with the team by Week 1 of 2013

This.

We roll with Charles and Gray. Grab a late round RB as our third.

[FloridaMan88]

Kelly got completely outcoached by Shaw in their meeting this year.
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LSU in 2011 and Auburn in the 2010 BCS Championship shut down Kelly's offense.

That is the closest thing you'll find to a preview of how Kelly's offense would fare against an NFL-caliber defense.

[Marcellus]

LSU in 2011 and Auburn in the 2010 BCS Championship shut down Kelly's offense.

That is the closest thing you'll find to a preview of how Kelly's offense would fare against an NFL-caliber defense.

Because Oregon's offense is full of NFL talent?

[ptlyon]

LSU in 2011 and Auburn in the 2010 BCS Championship shut down Kelly's offense.

That is the closest thing you'll find to a preview of how Kelly's offense would fare against an NFL-caliber defense.

So youre saying we need more LSU defensive linemen... :hmmm:

Go on...

[FloridaMan88]

Because Oregon's offense is full of NFL talent?

So Chip Kelly's alleged great NFL potential is based on what? His ability to beat up on the likes of Washington State, Oregon State, etc.?

[DaneMcCloud]

So Chip Kelly's alleged great NFL potential is based on what? His ability to beat up on the likes of Washington State, Oregon State, etc.?

I have to agree with 50/50 here: Chip Kelly's offenses have struggled against Pro Style and high caliber defenses like Stanford, LSU, etc.

It'll be interesting to see how they fare against K-State.

I'd rather have David Shaw than Chip Kelly.

[Marcellus]

So Chip Kelly's alleged great NFL potential is based on what? His ability to beat up on the likes of Washington State, Oregon State, etc.?

Well I would say he maximizes the talent he has available.

[Dayze]

Jeremy Urban would be a bauce in his offense. ~

[FloridaMan88]

Well I would say he maximizes the talent he has available.

Rivals recruiting class rankings for Oregon since 2007:

2007: 11th
2008: 19th
2009: 32nd
2010: 13th
2011: 9th
2012: 16th

The idea that Kelly is coaching a Boise State-type program with no talent or resources is a myth. Kelly has had the benefit of top 25 recruiting classes for most his tenure at Oregon as OC or HC.

[Chiefnj2]

I have to agree with 50/50 here: Chip Kelly's offenses have struggled against Pro Style and high caliber defenses like Stanford, LSU, etc.

It'll be interesting to see how they fare against K-State.

I'd rather have David Shaw than Chip Kelly.

He signed a long term extension earlier today or last night.

[The Franchise]

He signed a long term extension earlier today or last night.

http://www.mercurynews.com/stanford-cardinal/ci_22228241/stanford-football-coach-david-shaw-agrees-what-school

Stanford coach David Shaw has agreed to what the school called a "long-term" contract extension.

The length of the deal was not disclosed, nor was Shaw's compensation.

"Everyone understands his value and leadership," athletic director Bernard Muir said Wednesday after Stanford announced Shaw's extension.

Shaw, a former Cardinal receiver who counts Bill Walsh as a mentor, had two years remaining on the contract he signed upon replacing Jim Harbaugh in January 2011.

Shaw has compiled a 22-4 record with two Bowl Championship Series appearances and a conference title in his two seasons.

He is also one of a handful of coaches to be named Pac-12 Coach of the Year in back-to-back years.

Despite insistence that he had no interest in leaving Stanford, Shaw was a rumored candidate for various college and NFL openings.

"I want to be around until my kids graduate from here," said Shaw, who has three children.

"This is not a stopgap job. I love it here. My family loves it here. My wife (Kori) loves it here. We want to be here for a long time."

Shaw finished third in the balloting for Associated Press Coach of the Year.

Notre Dame's Brian Kelly won the award with 25 votes from the AP college football poll panel. Penn State's Bill O'Brien was second with 14 votes, followed by Shaw (four), Texas A&M's Kevin Sumlin (three), Kansas State's Bill Snyder (two) and Alabama's Nick Saban

[Strongside]

The last time I heard the words 'face' and 'probe' used in a consecutive manner, such as in the title....well...let's just say there were hookers.

[Marcellus]

Rivals recruiting class rankings for Oregon since 2007:

2007: 11th
2008: 19th
2009: 32nd
2010: 13th
2011: 9th
2012: 16th

The idea that Kelly is coaching a Boise State-type program with no talent or resources is a myth. Kelly has had the benefit of top 25 recruiting classes for most his tenure at Oregon as OC or HC.

I didn't say he was working with peanuts but to act like he is getting Bama type talent is ridiculous.

Oregon lost by 3 points to Auburn in the title game. 3 points. Don't act like there is some huge gap in performance between Oregon and the SEC even though they don't have the same level of talent as the top SEC teams.

Let me put it this way, swap Chip Kelly and Nick Saban as coaches, which team is better?

[bowener]

The #1 overall pick will be a very big draw for a lot of bigger name coaches. The recent NFL trend of bottom feeder teams to quickly rise from the grave is also probably going to help. I would imagine the ego on a lot of these guys is probably large enough they are certain they can turn any team into a contender easily tho.

The only problem I can see for the Chiefs is that it looks like Philly is built better for the style of offense he runs, they just don't have a QB.

[htismaqe]

The #1 overall pick will be a very big draw for a lot of bigger name coaches. The recent NFL trend of bottom feeder teams to quickly rise from the grave is also probably going to help. I would imagine the ego on a lot of these guys is probably large enough they are certain they can turn any team into a contender easily tho.

The only problem I can see for the Chiefs is that it looks like Philly is built better for the style of offense he runs, they just don't have a QB.

They're going to have high pick.

[Lzen]

By CoMo likes the idea. Do they cancel each other out?

:banghead:

[DaneMcCloud]

He signed a long term extension earlier today or last night.

His extension insures that he'll be at Stanford. Nothing could stop him from making the jump to the NFL, if he so chose.

[FloridaMan88]

I didn't say he was working with peanuts but to act like he is getting Bama type talent is ridiculous.

Oregon lost by 3 points to Auburn in the title game. 3 points. Don't act like there is some huge gap in performance between Oregon and the SEC even though they don't have the same level of talent as the top SEC teams.

Let me put it this way, swap Chip Kelly and Nick Saban as coaches, which team is better?

I'd take Saban any day over Chip Kelly as a college coach. I'd take neither as an NFL coach.

Auburn contained Chip Kelly's offense... held them to 19 points (only 2 TDs).

LSU in 2011 shut down Chip Kelly's offense, holding them to 13 points until the end when Oregon scored two garbage time TD's.

[Sorter]

Kelly got completely outcoached by Shaw in their meeting this year.
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Kelly completely outcoached Harbaugh in their 2 meetings the previous 2 years. :)

[Sorter]

I have to agree with 50/50 here: Chip Kelly's offenses have struggled against Pro Style and high caliber defenses like Stanford, LSU, etc.

It'll be interesting to see how they fare against K-State.

I'd rather have David Shaw than Chip Kelly.
2011
Oregon 53
Stanford 30

Oregon 35
USC 38

2010
Oregon 52
Stanford 31

Oregon 53
USC 32

It sure looks like he was outclassed by Vic Fangio.

[Sorter]

I'd take Saban any day over Chip Kelly as a college coach. I'd take neither as an NFL coach.

Auburn contained Chip Kelly's offense... held them to 19 points (only 2 TDs).

LSU in 2011 shut down Chip Kelly's offense, holding them to 13 points until the end when Oregon scored two garbage time TD's.

LSU shut down everyone that year. ROFL

[TLO]

OH YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!1!!!

[MahiMike]

The #1 overall pick will be a very big draw for a lot of bigger name coaches. The recent NFL trend of bottom feeder teams to quickly rise from the grave is also probably going to help. I would imagine the ego on a lot of these guys is probably large enough they are certain they can turn any team into a contender easily tho.

The only problem I can see for the Chiefs is that it looks like Philly is built better for the style of offense he runs, they just don't have a QB.

Correct. The draw of being able to pick so high is an extreme advantage. I'm sure it was a high priority for Jeff Fisher. Now that team will probably see the playoffs next year.

[Sorter]

Correct. The draw of being able to pick so high is an extreme advantage. I'm sure it was a high priority for Jeff Fisher. Now that team will probably see the playoffs next year.

I don't know. That division is tough as hell now, minus Arizona

[DaneMcCloud]

It sure looks like he was outclassed by Vic Fangio.

I don't think that Stanford had the kind of talent or scheme at that time to shut down Oregon.

Again, it'll be interesting to see how they fare against K-State.

[Sorter]

I don't think that Stanford had the kind of talent or scheme at that time to shut down Oregon.

Again, it'll be interesting to see how they fare against K-State.

Agreed. He did drop 50+ on USC and Stanford 2X. Granted, USC's D sucks this year.

[L.A. Chieffan]

A college coach and an African American quarterback.

Double recipe for disaster.

I'd rather have Cowher and a guy like Flacco.

[cyborgtable]

I'd take Saban any day over Chip Kelly as a college coach. I'd take neither as an NFL coach.

Auburn contained Chip Kelly's offense... held them to 19 points (only 2 TDs).

LSU in 2011 shut down Chip Kelly's offense, holding them to 13 points until the end when Oregon scored two garbage time TD's.

Its because massive DT's can stop that offense but anyone who thinks that he is going to bring that exact same offense in the pro's is just plain stupid.

He would bring some of it to the pro's yeah but it wouldn't be the same thing. No body runs a true air raid in the pro's but you see its influence everywhere, the rRdskins and 49ers are incorporating the Nevada pistol but it isn't the total offense. He would bring concepts, an innovative mind, and tight crisp practices to whomever he coaches and really what else can you want

[mr. tegu]

I support this!

[FloridaMan88]

He would bring concepts, an innovative mind, and tight crisp practices to whomever he coaches and really what else can you want

How about someone with a proven record of success as an NFL Head Coach or Assistant Coach... Chip Kelly has none.

How about what someone who has a proven record of developing successful NFL QBs? Chip Kelly has none.

[Dayze]

our luck we'll hire a HC who's philosophy is a big run game and stout defense.

....cause that works nowadays.

[htismaqe]

How about someone with a proven record of success as an NFL Head Coach or Assistant Coach... Chip Kelly has none.

How about what someone who has a proven record of developing successful NFL QBs? Chip Kelly has none.

Like Jeff Fisher.

[DaneMcCloud]

Why do so many think that the next head coach needs to have prior experience developing a quarterback? That's ridiculous.

I don't even think that most of you understand the role of the head coach.

[cyborgtable]

Why do so many think that the next head coach needs to have prior experience developing a quarterback? That's ridiculous.

I don't even think that most of you understand the role of the head coach.

this

[Dayze]

I'm down for an injection of new blood as a HC

[Reaper16]

Stop pretending that Chip Kelley has just one offense that he's stuck to. He's used like three different offenses over the course of his time at Oregon. You think he can't create an offense that will work in the NFL? I for one have little doubt that he's up to the task.

[mr. tegu]

I don't get the idea that Kelly couldn't run his Oregon offense in the NFL and that his performances against LSU and Auburn are proof it won't work. I don't get it because Kelly is not going to run that exact same offense. He did what he had to do in college to be successful and he would do the same in the NFL.

There have been many Oregon games that are relatively close in the first half and then by the time the third quarter rolls around the game is a complete blowout in Oregon's favor. Kelly is able to make the quick adjustments necessary to expose the weaknesses he finds THAT day. Because like the offense, the defense gameplans for the opponent so things change weak to weak. Kelly adjusts very well to what he sees on gameday.

[gblowfish]

Clark, Todd, Scott, now "Chip????"

Can this franchise get any WASPier???

[Strongside]

Clark, Todd, Scott, now "Chip????"

Can this franchise get any WASPier???

We need a 'Lance' or 'Dale'.

[wazu]

Clark, Todd, Scott, now "Chip????"

Can this franchise get any WASPier???

Do they win any points with you by drafting a black QB named "Geno"?

[mr. tegu]

Some quick evidence of Kelly's ability to adjust his offense within the game:

2012 season
First half - Oregon 13 Arizona 0
Second half - Oregon 36 Arizona 0

First half - Oregon 23 Washington St 19
Second half - Oregon 28 Washington St 7

First half - Oregon 20 Oregon St 10
Second half - Oregon 28 Oregon St 14

The funny thing is this is just the games where he didn't have the offense completely destroy the other team right out of the gate. I want his offensive mind coaching Geno here in Kansas City.

[FloridaMan88]

Some quick evidence of Kelly's ability to adjust his offense within the game:

2012 season
First half - Oregon 13 Arizona 0
Second half - Oregon 36 Arizona 0

First half - Oregon 23 Washington St 19
Second half - Oregon 28 Washington St 7

First half - Oregon 20 Oregon St 10
Second half - Oregon 28 Oregon St 14

The funny thing is this is just the games where he didn't have the offense completely destroy the other team right out of the gate. I want his offensive mind coaching Geno here in Kansas City.

Arizona... ranked 118th (out of 120 teams) in total defense
Washington State... ranked 81st in total defense
Oregon State... ranked 33rd in total defense

The fact Chip Kelly was able to make adjustments against mediocre/average Pac 12 defenses impresses you?

[FloridaMan88]

He did what he had to do in college to be successful and he would do the same in the NFL.

People said the same thing about Steve Spurrier when he went to the NFL.

[Wumbology]

If we get Chip and Geno I will literally shit my pants with joy

[Dayze]

I'd be so happy, I'd shit in Wumbology's pants too.

[AustinChief]

Dale Lindsey for Defensive Coordinator!

[htismaqe]

Why do so many think that the next head coach needs to have prior experience developing a quarterback? That's ridiculous.

I don't even think that most of you understand the role of the head coach.

I don't want a HC that has experience DEVELOPING a QB.

I want a HC though that has shown he knows what a real QB is and has shown he knows how to use them effectively.

[Wumbology]

I'd be so happy, I'd shit in Wumbology's pants too.

If it happens I'll be so happy I'll probably be down to let the entirety of chiefsplanet shit in pants.

[Sorter]

Arizona... ranked 118th (out of 120 teams) in total defense
Washington State... ranked 81st in total defense
Oregon State... ranked 33rd in total defense

The fact Chip Kelly was able to make adjustments against mediocre/average Pac 12 defenses impresses you?

No, but this fucking does.

2011
Oregon 53
Stanford 30

Oregon 35
USC 38

2010
Oregon 52
Stanford 31

Oregon 53
USC 32

[mr. tegu]

Arizona... ranked 118th (out of 120 teams) in total defense
Washington State... ranked 81st in total defense
Oregon State... ranked 33rd in total defense

The fact Chip Kelly was able to make adjustments against mediocre/average Pac 12 defenses impresses you?

Would you prefer he didn't make adjustments? :shrug:

Sometimes the other guys do a good job too.

[DaneMcCloud]

I don't want a HC that has experience DEVELOPING a QB.

I want a HC though that has shown he knows what a real QB is and has shown he knows how to use them effectively.

I'm not sure how that's possible, unless you hire a former NFL offensive coordinator that's helped a QB, as a QB coach and OC, develop.

There aren't too many of those guys floating around and anyone that's worked with either Manning should be automatically excluded.

[htismaqe]

I'm not sure how that's possible, unless you hire a former NFL offensive coordinator that's helped a QB, as a QB coach and OC, develop.

There aren't too many of those guys floating around and anyone that's worked with either Manning should be automatically excluded.

I want a guy who can identify QBs and isn't afraid to chuck the ball.

Vermeil. Sean Payton.

I don't necessarily care if they've ever COACHED OR DEVELOPED QBs at any point in their career.

[DaneMcCloud]

I want a guy who can identify QBs and isn't afraid to chuck the ball.

Vermeil. Sean Payton.

I don't necessarily care if they've ever COACHED OR DEVELOPED QBs at any point in their career.

To me, no offense, that seems to be a given in today's NFL.

If the Chiefs hired some dopey defensive stalwart, I'd be done. I don't have much time or patience these days to watch Martyball.

[Dayze]

yeah, I like the coaches who realize you need to score more points than the opponent.
i forget what Romeo said but it was something along the lines of being competitive while losing or something retarded.

give me a OC/HC that wants to attack.

[CoMoChief]

yeah, I like the coaches who realize you need to score more points than the opponent.
i forget what Romeo said but it was something along the lines of being competitive while losing or something retarded.

give me a OC/HC that wants to attack.

Nooooooo shit

Herm...Romeo.....they're both one of the same.

[htismaqe]

To me, no offense, that seems to be a given in today's NFL.

If the Chiefs hired some dopey defensive stalwart, I'd be done. I don't have much time or patience these days to watch Martyball.

It seems a lot of fans like the idea.

Like you, I don't.

[DaneMcCloud]

It seems a lot of fans like the idea.

Like you, I don't.

Well, another thing to keep in mind when discussing Polian is that he seems to favor defensive minded coaches: Capers, Mora and Dungy.

Levy was a special teams coach before his first head coaching gig (college) and Jim Caldwell just plain sucks.

Although I'd take Jim Mora, jr. in a heartbeat. I think he's a very, very good coach.

[htismaqe]

Well, another thing to keep in mind when discussing Polian is that he seems to favor defensive minded coaches: Capers, Mora and Dungy.

Levy was a special teams coach before his first head coaching gig (college) and Jim Caldwell just plain sucks.

Although I'd take Jim Mora, jr. in a heartbeat. I think he's a very, very good coach.

I really don't want Polian.

Wasn't excited about it at first and the more I think about his attitude, the way he treated his employees, and the blatant nepotism, I don't want him anywhere near KC.

[DaneMcCloud]

I really don't want Polian.

Wasn't excited about it at first and the more I think about his attitude, the way he treated his employees, and the blatant nepotism, I don't want him anywhere near KC.

I don't, either. I just hope that Clark Hunt performs proper due diligence before the next hire.

[Sorter]

I really don't want Polian.

Wasn't excited about it at first and the more I think about his attitude, the way he treated his employees, and the blatant nepotism, I don't want him anywhere near KC.

^^This.