What if The Chiefs traded down...

[Guitarkore]

What would be a fair trade?

[BryanBusby]

fuck you

[Reaper16]

Your life.

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

You dipshit, thats not enough information. Are they trading down 31 spots ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

[KCrockaholic]

Eat shit and die you ****ing ****!



















































Merry Christmas.

[KCrockaholic]

Green ranger was a fag.

[Window Licking Whiner]

Every pick of the opposite team, every last one of them.

That's too much? Well no fucking deal we need a QB

[okcchief]

Geno Smith

[ChiefsCountry]

Aaron Rodgers

[SAUTO]

Your life.

Not enough compensation
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[Bugeater]

Your life.
We would need something of value.

[Reaper16]

Not enough compensation
Posted via Mobile Device

We would need something of value.

Hey, all negotiations have a starting point.

[ROYC75]

What would be a fair trade?

That better not happen!

[Bugeater]

Hey, all negotiations have a starting point.
He'd definitely have to throw some family members in. And some offspring to be named later.

[Agent V]

Green ranger was a fag.

HEY! Fuck you.

Merry Christmas.

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[Ebolapox]

what if I fucked your mother up the ass?

[ReynardMuldrake]

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[SPchief]

How is this guy not in the red yet?

[RunKC]

Sign Alex Smith, trade back and acquire picks and then pick Te'o!!!!!!


/truefan

[RealSNR]

What if all the people on welfare became lawyers?

Problem solved.

[TribalElder]

Fuck off

[JoeyChuckles]

I'd make the deal for two lesbian hookers and a sixer. But I'm not the Chiefs.

[BigMeatballDave]

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Better hide that or you'll be getting time off.

[BigMeatballDave]

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LMAO that's awesome

[Rain Man]

We would need to build in the cost of several years of flying banners.

[TribalElder]

Better hide that or you'll be getting time off.

Done

lol

[Hootie]

if we traded down and got 5 1sts and the team that took #1 got Geno...I'd call it a raping and stop cheering for the Chiefs for being such DIPSHITS

ask Rams fans how they feel about their trade this year

[TribalElder]

Rams are happy overpaying a mediocre Bradford.

Should have RG3'd

[Ceej]

What if you sucked dick for money??

And liked it..

[Sorter]

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[HolyHat]

what if I ****ed your mother up the ass?

:hmmm:

[lewdog]

Might as well trade down, we can find a LT later in the draft anyway.

[Sorter]

Might as well trade down, we can find a LT later in the draft anyway.

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[Bump]

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[Chiefshrink]

What if all the people on welfare became lawyers?

Problem solved.

Where have you been ? They already run the court system !!!:eek:

[AussieChiefsFan]

What if NOTHING!!!!!! GENO or bust

[Fat Elvis]

RG3 or Andrew Luck

edit: I'd even consider Russell Wilson, but I'd also want the Hawks 1st as well. I wanted him last year knowing that we lost out on RG3 and Luck.

[AussieChiefsFan]

What if NOTHING!!!!!! GENO or bust
Actually, this. ↓
RG3 or Andrew Luck

[BigRedChief]

Smacked with an aids tree? Anti-Freeze or a new form of painful death for this poster and his idea?

[Hootie]

I love Russell Wilson...think he's a stud.

But how would he have looked this year with this Chiefs team and this coaching staff?

Food for thought.

[BryanBusby]

I love Russell Wilson...think he's a stud.

But how would he have looked this year with this Chiefs team and this coaching staff?

Food for thought.
He'd be on his way to bustville as this coaching staff sucks and we'd be busy discussing how we wasted a Day 2 pick on a midget (again).

[Hootie]

He'd be on his way to bustville as this coaching staff sucks and we'd be busy discussing how we wasted a Day 2 pick on a midget (again).

That's what I'm thinking, sadly.

[TomSlash]

Ba-bye

Make another mult account and pull that crap and see what happens with your regular account.

[Three7s]

That's what I'm thinking, sadly.
No doubt, CP would've crucified the pick. Hell, I would've.

[Thig Lyfe]

Let's trade the #1 pick for Carson Palmer, straight up.

[CoMoChief]

I hope they do...because they could still probably still draft Geno Smith.

There's just not a clear cut #1 pick like there has been in the past. Only good thing about is that there aren't anymore $60M deals due to the CBA

[jd1020]

I hope they do...because they could still probably still draft Geno Smith.

There's just not a clear cut #1 pick like there has been in the past. Only good thing about is that there aren't anymore $60M deals due to the CBA

Someones really going to trade up to draft a ILB.

[CanadaKC]

the wildcard in this whole conversation is Tyler Bray.

[Bugeater]

Ba-bye

Make another mult account and pull that crap and see what happens with your regular account.
Goddamnit, what did I miss?

[Valiant]

I hope they do...because they could still probably still draft Geno Smith.

There's just not a clear cut #1 pick like there has been in the past. Only good thing about is that there aren't anymore $60M deals due to the CBA

Wut?? Even with the change, you still take a QB number 1..

Especially if you are not in the position/spot very often.. It is the most valuable position, more so on this team..

People were not as sold on RG3 as much as Luck last year until going into the combine when his stock rose.. Then he played great, now everyone says if he learns to stay in the pocket and not run as much he will be a allstar..

Guess what?? There is a QB that fits very close to all of that this year that you can grab with the 1st pick..

Couple him with a offensive HC a game plan and you can have exciting offense again for the Chiefs like the Redskins and Seahawks for rookie QBs..

I cannot fathom how many Chiefs fans do not want to draft him..

Sure, he can bust.. So can every other pick that you take there or from the tradedown..

He would upgrade our team the most from any player in the draft..

[Saccopoo]

What would be a fair trade?

To trade out of picking Geno? Hmmm...let's see...

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And that's just for me personally.

And if they trade out, I don't give a shit what the Chiefs get. They can get a used hockey puck and a signed Lin Elliott photograph, because if they trade out of it, they can go suck the festered ass out of a menustrating skunk.

[RealSNR]

Goddamnit, what did I miss?

This.

[Saccopoo]

Goddamnit, what did I miss?

TomSlash posting a pretty serious racial slur and Bwana cutting it off quickly.

Total account bannable shit if you ask me.

[Sorter]

Goddamnit, what did I miss?

This. I fucking leave this thread for like 2 hours and miss out on all the action.

[SPchief]

Ba-bye

Make another mult account and pull that crap and see what happens with your regular account.

So this person is part of the inner circle? And mults are now allowed?

[bevischief]

pooptacos for you.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Let's trade the #1 pick for Carson Palmer, straight up.

Pass/Reighters

[BlackHelicopters]

Ricky Williams.

[Chiefshrink]

There's just not a clear cut #1 pick like there has been in the past. Only good thing about is that there aren't anymore $60M deals due to the CBA

I get your point BUT shortly after the SB and especially after the combine Mayock and Kiper(our favorite draftubators) will have Geno soooooooo pimped up that he will be the clear No.1 pick and QB far and away.

As far as the the rookie cap that is a good thing unless you are the Chiefs AND PIOLI IS RETAINED because then all the other starved QB teams now can afford to trade up and then Scott gets his dream of many picks for the draft and for future drafts.

[Bugeater]

TomSlash posting a pretty serious racial slur and Bwana cutting it off quickly.

Total account bannable shit if you ask me.
Funny thing is that was allegedly a mult of one of the regulars here. Have no idea who though.

[crazycoffey]

What if your aunt grew a dick? She'd be your uncle

[crazycoffey]

Funny thing is that was allegedly a mult of one of the regulars here. Have no idea who though.

Austin....

[Bwana]

Funny thing is that was allegedly a mult of one of the regulars here. Have no idea who though.

It was.

I dumped the mult and gave the regular 3 weeks off.

[RealSNR]

What if your aunt grew a dick? She'd be your uncle

And what if she had three wheels? She'd be a tricycle.

[Bugeater]

And what if she had three wheels? She'd be a tricycle.
And what if she sucked at playing the QB position? She'd be Matt Cassel.

[candyman]

I want a QB (Geno) as much as the next guy but if we traded back/swapped 1st's and still stayed in the top 10, got a 2nd, 3rd, and next year's 1st and 2nd, I would take that shit in a heartbeat.

[RealSNR]

I want a QB (Geno) as much as the next guy but if we traded back and still stayed in the top 10, got a 2nd, 3rd, and next year's 1st and 2nd, I would take that shit in a heartbeat.

Why? So we can draft CBs and defensive linemen?

More of that shit isn't going to make us any better, especially considering that most of those picks we traded for will be busts.

Get the best fucking QB you can find and hope it works out. You can draft all that bullshit you want next year.

[PRIEST]

And what if she sucked at playing the QB position? She'd be Matt Cassel.




This:harumph:

[kcfanXIII]

Smacked with an aids tree? Anti-Freeze or a new form of painful death for this poster and his idea?

i say a new form of death is required. most of the posters i see with a 2012 join date, aren't worthy of the glory that comes with death by antifreeze.

[chiefzilla1501]

I know people hate me for this, but I always believe in giving GMs a free pass in the first 1-2 years. The Chiefs' need for a QB is non-negotiable. If the new GM believes they can get Geno and Tyler Wilson in a trade-down, then absolutely do it. If they believe Tyler Wilson is better than Geno, I'm not going to bash the pick even if I like Geno better. I'd be hard-pressed to like a pick for Barkley, but again... deserves a chance to try to make it work.

Even though Geno should be the pick, if it's a new GM, I'll wait out before deciding if it was a good move or not.

[Guitarkore]

Holy Shit, what kind of fucking pussies get butt hurt over a fucking post. It was intentionally left to be an open ended discussion. There are too many hypothetical situations to list if the the chiefs were to trade down. So use your down syndrome monkey brains and come up with something that would be a reasonable and fair trade if you were the new GM.

Happy Chanukah you fucking Jews
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[Reaper16]

Holy Shit, what kind of fucking pussies get butt hurt over a fucking post. It was intentionally left to be an open ended discussion. There are too many hypothetical situations to list if the the chiefs were to trade down. So use your down syndrome monkey brains and come up with something that would be a reasonable and fair trade if you were the new GM.

Happy Chanukah you fucking Jews
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And our response should tell you the answer: there are no fair or reasonable tradedown scenarios. The new GM needs to take his QB at #1 overall, period.

[warpaint*]

It would have to be a deal they can't refuse. IE a trade so lopsided no ones making it, esp not this year.

I guess Kiper thinks the NCSt qb is going to rise. I haven't seen him much so I don't really have an opinion on him just yet.

[SAUTO]

It would have to be a deal they can't refuse. IE a trade so lopsided no ones making it, esp not this year.

I guess Kiper thinks the NCSt qb is going to rise. I haven't seen him much so I don't really have an opinion on him just yet. ostrich
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[Dave Lane]

TomSlash posting a pretty serious racial slur and Bwana cutting it off quickly.

Total account bannable shit if you ask me.

Gotta love Tom Cash. That dude has been banned so many fucking times its crazy.

You know they should ban him from the lounge and just let him spew his garbage in DC.

[Guitarkore]

Sign Alex Smith, trade back and acquire picks and then pick Te'o!!!!!!


/truefan

This is something I've thought of as a possibility

[Dave Lane]

Whats the limit for starting a thread? Dude is buried in Red Rep with 18 post. Thats quality posting right there.

[Dave Lane]

http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg281/prophessorlee/neggedV2.gifHoly Shit, what kind of ****ing pussies get butt hurt over a ****ing post. It was intentionally left to be an open ended discussion. There are too many hypothetical situations to list if the the chiefs were to trade down. So use your down syndrome monkey brains and come up with something that would be a reasonable and fair trade if you were the new GM.

Happy Chanukah you ****ing Jews
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[Guitarkore]

Whats the limit for starting a thread? Dude is buried in Red Rep with 18 post. Thats quality posting right there.

I find it interesting that your life is so lame you have to pick through people's profiles to entertain yourself. Are the World of Warcraft servers down you fucking bridge troll

[Easy 6]

Trading down isnt an option, a STATEMENT must be made with the #1

[Tribal Warfare]

I find it interesting that your life is so lame you have to pick through people's profiles to entertain yourself. Are the World of Warcraft servers down you fucking bridge troll

And antisemitic remarks are teh awesome!!!!!!

[Guitarkore]

I know people hate me for this, but I always believe in giving GMs a free pass in the first 1-2 years. The Chiefs' need for a QB is non-negotiable. If the new GM believes they can get Geno and Tyler Wilson in a trade-down, then absolutely do it. If they believe Tyler Wilson is better than Geno, I'm not going to bash the pick even if I like Geno better. I'd be hard-pressed to like a pick for Barkley, but again... deserves a chance to try to make it work.

Even though Geno should be the pick, if it's a new GM, I'll wait out before deciding if it was a good move or not.

I'm not gonna lie. I don't pay a whole lot of attention to college. But if what I've seen, read, and researched I'd say Geno has only a slight edge on Barkley. Haven't really looked at Tyler Wilson.

[TribalElder]

I find it interesting that your life is so lame you have to pick through people's profiles to entertain yourself. Are the World of Warcraft servers down you ****ing bridge troll

Your post count and rep are displayed on every post. I don't think much profile picking is required but what do I know, I joined a couple months ago

[Guitarkore]

I want a QB (Geno) as much as the next guy but if we traded back/swapped 1st's and still stayed in the top 10, got a 2nd, 3rd, and next year's 1st and 2nd, I would take that shit in a heartbeat.

I agree

[Guitarkore]

Your post count and rep are displayed on every post. I don't think much profile picking is required but what do I know, I joined a couple months ago

Beats me, I'm on TapaTalk right now. I don't see anybody's rep.

[Rausch]

And our response should tell you the answer: there are no fair or reasonable tradedown scenarios. The new GM needs to take his QB at #1 overall, period.

The only way I'd want to trade down would be if somehow Pissholi survived. If he were still here come April I'd definitely want to trade way down, pick up an extra pick the next year, and give a real GM tons of ammo to move anywhere and grab whomever he wants...

[keg in kc]

If there isn't a QB worth taking at #1 then there isn't going to be anyone willing to trade for the pick. And if there is a QB worth taking at #1 then we would be monumentally stupid to trade out.

[Guitarkore]

And our response should tell you the answer: there are no fair or reasonable tradedown scenarios. The new GM needs to take his QB at #1 overall, period.

That would be one's opinion. Not one that I disagree with. I'd like to take Geno. But how many threads are there about that already? I was trying to start a conversation with a different scenario

[Guitarkore]

If there isn't a QB worth taking at #1 then there isn't going to be anyone willing to trade for the pick. And if there is a QB worth taking at #1 then we would be monumentally stupid to trade out.

Who should we pick at #1 then?

[Ebolapox]

this won't end well for you, guitar. do yourself a favor and step away from the keyboard.

[Bugeater]

That would be one's opinion. Not one that I disagree with. I'd like to take Geno. But how many threads are there about that already? I was trying to start a conversation with a different scenario
What you're failing to understand is there is NO OTHER SCENARIO. For the first fucking time in franchise history we'll have the 1st pick overall, and you want to talk about trading it away? Fuck you.

[Buckweath]

Who should we pick at #1 then?

MAnti Teo!! The next ray Lewis!! Or Taylor Lewan to replace Albert.

[keg in kc]

Who should we pick at #1 then?Has to be a quarterback. Any other pick would be a waste in my opinion. (Assuming they don't beat denver...) this is likely the best chance they will ever have to acquire a franchise QB.

And in case you're about to say "but there isn't a qb worth the #1 this year" my response would be "there isn't any other position with a player worth the #1 this year, either". There's no blue chip LT, DL, DB, WR that has any more value than any QB we could select, whether we're talking about Smith or Wilson or anybody else. Which would be another reason I think a trade-down scenario is extremely unlikely. So all else being equal, I think we need to select the position which has: a) the most positional value (by far); and b) the most team value (i.e. our biggest need - again by far).

[Guitarkore]

What you're failing to understand is there is NO OTHER SCENARIO. For the first fucking time in franchise history we'll have the 1st pick overall, and you want to talk about trading it away? Fuck you.

It's only a discussion, not a petition. Don't get your panties all wadded up. You may cause a yeast infection.

[Guitarkore]

this won't end well for you, guitar. do yourself a favor and step away from the keyboard.

Had I realized there would be a damn riot over a simple discussion I would have reconsidered. I was only opening discussion for other possibilities, for the sake of boredom, and half of 'The Planet' reacts to it as though I'm speaking blasphemy.

What if Pee-oli is still on board? You know he won't draft a QB.

[Ebolapox]

Had I realized there would be a damn riot over a simple discussion I would have reconsidered. I was only opening discussion for other possibilities, for the sake of boredom, and half of 'The Planet' reacts to it as though I'm speaking blasphemy.

What if Pee-oli is still on board? You know he won't draft a QB.

oh, I get why you did it. however, it's near unspeakable... I'm personally in the draft QB or bust camp (positional value puts a top 5 talent QB at number one overall, especially with the new CBA and contract values).

as for contemplating what pioli would do if he is still here, I'd contemplate jumping off of a bridge or pulling a jovan belcher on the chiefs FO. they'd be killing their fanbase. it's just not an option. if they do, man... arrowhead will be a ghost town.

[Guitarkore]

oh, I get why you did it. however, it's near unspeakable... I'm personally in the draft QB or bust camp (positional value puts a top 5 talent QB at number one overall, especially with the new CBA and contract values).

as for contemplating what pioli would do if he is still here, I'd contemplate jumping off of a bridge or pulling a jovan belcher on the chiefs FO. they'd be killing their fanbase. it's just not an option. if they do, man... arrowhead will be a ghost town.

Lmao...nice!

[DaFace]

Beats me, I'm on TapaTalk right now. I don't see anybody's rep.

And you wonder why we restrict n00bs...

Yes - post count and rep are shown beside every post you make. All he had to do was glance to come to the conclusion he did.

[Rausch]

And you wonder why we restrict n00bs...

Yes - post count and rep are shown beside every post you make. All he had to do was glance to come to the conclusion he did.

Slow down...








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Yes, that kind...

[Hootie]

I would refuse any offer available. Any. Unless they want to trade us Luck or RGIII straight up for the pick.

I wouldn't take 5 1st round picks for #1 if it meant we were moving to #2 and the team drafting #1 took Geno.

1 franchise QB >>>>>> Dwayne Bowe + Glenn Dorsey + Tyson Jackson + Eric Berry + Jon Baldwin

[Rausch]

I would refuse any offer available. Any. Unless they want to trade us Luck or RGIII straight up for the pick.

I wouldn't take 5 1st round picks for #1 if it meant we were moving to #2 and the team drafting #1 took Geno.

Now you're just being fucking stupid.

He isn't that good...

[Hootie]

In fact, take any 5 consecutive drafts in our entire Chiefs history, take all 5 first round picks from those 5 consecutive drafts and then tell me if any of those 5 equal up to one Robert Griffin III

People on this board need to start having realistic expectations out of draft picks. 9.5 out of 10 1st round picks do not make the hall of fame (maybe even higher)

[Hootie]

Now you're just being ****ing stupid.

He isn't that good...

Read post #103.

Go to any draft era of any Chiefs regime and take their 5 1st round picks in a row and tell me if any of them equal the value of an Andrew Luck.

You think Rams fans are watching RGIII winning the NFC East and thinking...by golly gee these 3 future 1st rounders are gonnnnna be aaaawesome!!!!

[Hootie]

off the top of my head, here are the % value of a "hit" (meaning quality starter) by round:

1st: 50%
2nd: 30%
3rd: 20%
4th-7th: 10%
UDFA: 5%

[Hootie]

Imagine flipping quarters:

Top 10 pick: 60% or a 1st round pick: Guess heads or tails, correct = hit incorrect = miss
2nd: Better guess right 2 times out of 3.
3rd? Might as well guess right twice in a row.
4th-7th? Take a long snapper and see if he turns into Jared Allen! Or buy 5 scratch off tickets and see if you make your money back.

[Rausch]

You think Rams fans are watching RGIII winning the NFC East and thinking...by golly gee these 3 future 1st rounders are gonnnnna be aaaawesome!!!!

Yeah, I do.

They took the Niners to overtime TWICE and were COMPETITIVE in most their games.

Their QB is like our LT - not as good as we expected but good enough to win with.

And because they have the ammo to turn around next year and draft another QB.

Idiot...

[Hootie]

Yeah, I do.

They took the Niners to overtime TWICE and were COMPETITIVE in most their games.

Their QB is like our LT - not as good as we expected but good enough to win with.

And because they have the ammo to turn around next year and draft another QB.

Idiot...

Why are you calling me an idiot?

I bet if we pooled RamsPlanet.com (a hypothetical informed Rams fan site much like ChiefsPlanet.com) the overwhelming vote would be RGIII over the draft pick compensation they received.

But whatever. Fling your insults at me when you have no good rebuttal to a topic of debate.

[DaFace]

Why are you calling me an idiot?

I bet if we pooled RamsPlanet.com (a hypothetical informed Rams fan site much like ChiefsPlanet.com) the overwhelming vote would be RGIII over the draft pick compensation they received.

But whatever. Fling your insults at me when you have no good rebuttal to a topic of debate.

In hindsight? Sure. At the time? I'd bet most were pretty pleased with their compensation.

[Hootie]

and at this point in his career Bradford looks like his ceiling is Trent Green. That's fine and all, and maybe he can someday reach that ceiling and be a competent NFL QB but I think I'd take RGIII over Bradford and extra picks. I also doubt I'm alone. And not only do I doubt I'm not alone, but I bet I'm with the vast majority.

[Hootie]

In hindsight? Sure. At the time? I'd bet most were pretty pleased with their compensation.

Absolutely.

But with that hindsight, why would we want to potentially make the same mistake?

My point is...

If you think there is a franchise QB in the draft and you have the chance to draft him NO MATTER WHAT...why risk it for extra picks that may turn into Jon Baldwin, Tyson Jackson and Glenn Dorsey?

You take the franchise QB, you pat yourself on the back, and then you prepare for your next pick/move.

[Rausch]

Why are you calling me an idiot?

I bet if we pooled RamsPlanet.com (a hypothetical informed Rams fan site much like ChiefsPlanet.com)

Good luck with that...

But whatever. Fling your insults at me when you have no good rebuttal to a topic of debate.

You're an idiot.
I'd trade DT or Shields for 5 first rounders and so would any other owner...

[ClevelandBronco]

Sanchez and the Jets #3.

Ho.

Ho.

Ho.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Dude Hootie's right, most Rams fans are far from content with Bradford. Many feel they can't win with him.

[Hootie]

Good luck with that...



You're an idiot.
I'd trade DT or Shields for 5 first rounders and so would any other owner...

Ok, I'm going to pretend you didn't mention Shields because he's an OG for crying out loud...

but Derrick Thomas? Yes. I'd make that trade. He's a rush backer. That's great, very valuable in today's NFL...but not a franchise QB. We have two very capable rush backers (not nearly as good as DT or even Von Miller) and we won 2 fucking games and never played with a lead to utilize their strengths anyways.

[DaFace]

Absolutely.

But with that hindsight, why would we want to potentially make the same mistake?

My point is...

If you think there is a franchise QB in the draft and you have the chance to draft him NO MATTER WHAT...why risk it for extra picks that may turn into Jon Baldwin, Tyson Jackson and Glenn Dorsey?

You take the franchise QB, you pat yourself on the back, and then you prepare for your next pick/move.

You're not comparing things apples to apples here. Is a franchise QB worth more than a shit ton of other players? Absolutely. But is there a QB in the draft who is a GUARANTEED franchise QB? Obviously not; there are never any guarantees.

So, what we're really talking about is the chance to draft a QB who could be anywhere from Tom Brady to Jamarcus Russel. Do you take him? Sure. But do you risk the entire future of your franchise on him by trading everything you have for him? Not unless you're Al Davis.

[Hootie]

You're not comparing things apples to apples here. Is a franchise QB worth more than a shit ton of other players? Absolutely. But is there a QB in the draft who is a GUARANTEED franchise QB? Obviously not; there are never any guarantees.

So, what we're really talking about is the chance to draft a QB who could be anywhere from Tom Brady to Jamarcus Russel. Do you take him? Sure. But do you risk the entire future of your franchise on him by trading everything you have for him? Not unless you're Al Davis.

but we're arguing different points

I'm saying that we, at #1 overall, if our front office has determined they think Geno Smith is a franchise caliber QB they don't consider trading him for ANYTHING, no matter how good the compensation package is (unless it's for a Luck or RGIII which is unrealistic).

Not for even 5 1st round picks. Even if the 1st 1st round pick is the #1 when we're drafting #1 so that team can take the QB we dubbed as a franchise guy.

That's my only point.

[Guitarkore]

And you wonder why we restrict n00bs...

Yes - post count and rep are shown beside every post you make. All he had to do was glance to come to the conclusion he did.

No I wonder why they allow people like your parents to inbreed. A fucking n00b? Are you 12? How classy and original replacing the "O's" with Zeros. Did you come up with that Shit on your own or did Google it first?

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Making mults sure is fun!!!!

[ClevelandBronco]

No I wonder why they allow people like your parents to inbreed. A fucking n00b? Are you 12? How classy and original replacing the "O's" with Zeros. Did you come up with that Shit on your own or did Google it first?

Game on.

[DaFace]

No I wonder why they allow people like your parents to inbreed. A fucking n00b? Are you 12? How classy and original replacing the "O's" with Zeros. Did you come up with that Shit on your own or did Google it first?

Welcome to the internet. Next time, I'd recommend you don't act like an ass to the guy who did a favor for you two days ago.

Back to the restricted list you go.

[Hootie]

he g00gled it, n00b

[ClevelandBronco]

Welcome to the internet. Next time, I'd recommend you don't act like an ass to the guy who did a favor for you two days ago.

Back to the restricted list you go.

Game off.

[DaFace]

but we're arguing different points

I'm saying that we, at #1 overall, if our front office has determined they think Geno Smith is a franchise caliber QB they don't consider trading him for ANYTHING, no matter how good the compensation package is (unless it's for a Luck or RGIII which is unrealistic).

Not for even 5 1st round picks. Even if the 1st 1st round pick is the #1 when we're drafting #1 so that team can take the QB we dubbed as a franchise guy.

That's my only point.

On that, we don't disagree then. (Within the realm of reason, at least. If the Redskins suddenly decided they wanted to trade us RGIII for the #1, I'd be willing to consider.)

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Should have changed him to Gaydarlore whilst you were at it.

[Saccopoo]

I'm not gonna lie. I don't pay a whole lot of attention to college. But if what I've seen, read, and researched I'd say Geno has only a slight edge on Barkley. Haven't really looked at Tyler Wilson.

Ignorance is bad, especially when you start a thread that has zero merit.

Let's see...you don't pay attention to college ball, haven't looked at Wilson and I'm assuming your research on Geno consists of second hand information about something on Bleacher Report.

F-.

http://i42.tinypic.com/dlthfl.jpg

[Buckweath]

The truth is a lot of fans have yet to understand how much of an impact a qb has on the game. It will always be a team sport but if you dont have a top 10 qb youre almost dead right from the start. That being said, geno is no sûre thing but he looks like the only qb in this class that has a decent chance to become a top 10 qb in the NFL. If anything, if the Chiefs didnt have the #1 overall pick they should have been the one to trade a brunch of picks for Geno.

[Hootie]

well the Chiefs have the #1 pick, fortunately

we have zero chance of beating Denver next week...I don't even have to knock on wood

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Eh, an adverse reaction to his weekly pregame stem cell buffet may put the game in a little bit of peril.

[Ultra Peanut]

fuck you.

[milkman]

but we're arguing different points

I'm saying that we, at #1 overall, if our front office has determined they think Geno Smith is a franchise caliber QB they don't consider trading him for ANYTHING, no matter how good the compensation package is (unless it's for a Luck or RGIII which is unrealistic).

Not for even 5 1st round picks. Even if the 1st 1st round pick is the #1 when we're drafting #1 so that team can take the QB we dubbed as a franchise guy.

That's my only point.

I agree with everything Hootie has posted in this thread, including his opinion on Will Shields.

Anyone that would trade more than even one pick for a guard is a fucking moron.

I'm looking at you Rausch.

Knowing how good Shields was, I might consider trading a second round pick, but that would be the highest I would go.

[milkman]

And there is no trade offer that could move me off the first pick in this draft.

None.

[Hootie]

There will be no debate by February...everyone will be mocking Geno at #1 sooner rather than later.

I'm immediately buying that jersey as soon as I hear Goodell announce the pick.

Most excited I've been as a Chiefs fan since we started 9-0 in 2003.

[Discuss Thrower]

There will be no debate by February...everyone will be mocking Geno at #1 sooner rather than later.

I'm immediately buying that jersey as soon as I hear Goodell announce the pick.

Most excited I've been as a Chiefs fan since we started 9-0 in 2003.

I find your faith in KC doing the right thing disturbing.

[Discuss Thrower]

And there is no trade offer that could move me off the first pick in this draft.

None.

Hypothetical 2013 rounds 1-4, 2014 Round 1-2, 2015-17 round 1?

[L.A. Chieffan]

Too many holes on this team. It's going to take more than one draft to fix everything. If you have the option to trade and pick up extra players you do it.

[L.A. Chieffan]

There isn't really anybody worth picking that high anyways. This is a perfect draft to trade down.

[milkman]

Hypothetical 2013 rounds 1-4, 2014 Round 1-2, 2015-17 round 1?

The only QB that I personally haved liked as much, or more, coming out in the last 5 or 6 years is Andrew Luck.

I wouldn't trade this pick for any package.

[RealSNR]

No one seems to be responding to this post:

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost.php?p=9240284&postcount=68

To rephrase the question:

If you can get all those delicious picks that you crave, what are you going to do with them? Draft the best QB in the entire draft with them? No? Oh, you're going to settle for the 2nd/3rd best QB and get a bunch of Jon Baldwins and Glenn Dorseys?

Yeaahhh... that's a bad idea....

[Hootie]

draft picks don't mean dick if you don't have a QB

seriously...I wouldn't take two entire drafts from a team for the #1 pick this year with Geno Smith

I no longer give a shit about "value"...I want a god damn franchise QB and it's time. No more trade down scenarios. Just draft the guy, give him his $23M guaranteed, and sit back and enjoy.

[RealSNR]

draft picks don't mean dick if you don't have a QB

seriously...I wouldn't take two entire drafts from a team for the #1 pick this year with Geno Smith

I no longer give a shit about "value"...I want a god damn franchise QB and it's time. No more trade down scenarios. Just draft the guy, give him his $23M guaranteed, and sit back and enjoy.
The best part about having the #1 overall pick?

You get to draft a franchise QB AND keep all of your 2nd-7th round picks to draft other players.

Why the fuck people want MORE compensation is beyond me. We don't fucking need those draft picks. Period.

What we NEED is a goddamn QB. Do NOT put that at risk just so you can "SOLIDIFY TEH OLINEZ!!!111"

[Buckweath]

There isn't really anybody worth picking that high anyways. This is a perfect draft to trade down.

Ok so no player is worth rafting #1 overlay but some GM will he DUMB enough to trade up for that pick?

[jspchief]

You have to look at the possible reasons you would pass on a QB at number 1:

1. Money. But we already know that the new rookie scale makes this a non issue.

2. A better player is available. It's not a question of whether Geno is a #1 overall QB. It's a question of whether some other player is such a rare talent that you can't afford to pass on him. That player doesn't exist in this draft.

Team need, positional value, and lack of a "once in an era" player makes QB the obvious choice for KC.

[whoman69]

There isn't really anybody worth picking that high anyways. This is a perfect draft to trade down.

says Chiefsplanet every year

[Ebolapox]

but seriously, what if I fucked your wife in the ass? do you have a daughter who is at least 18 years old? what if I fucked her in the ass?

[Rausch]

do you have a daughter who is at least 18 years old? what if I ****ed her in the ass?

Herpes?...

[Ebolapox]

Herpes?...

let's hope not. I mean--if she's hot enough, it's worth risking gonnorhea. but herpes? hell no.

[Ebolapox]

Herpes?...

on second thought, I'd do it in her pooper even IF her name was Herpes. I mean, just because that's her name doesn't mean she HAS herpes. we don't know that.

[L.A. Chieffan]

Chiefsplanet is a smart place

[Reerun_KC]

Chiefsplanet is a smart placeYet you preach that that we should trade down because of value.. What retard GM is going to trade for your pick if you are telling us there isnt anything worth picking?

you sir are dumb....

[jspchief]

JFC.

How many times does it have to be said? LA Chieffan is a troll. He purposely says stupid things that he knows will piss CP members off.

It's beyond comprehension that people are stupid enough to continue to fall for it.

[milkman]

JFC.

How many times does it have to be said? LA Chieffan is a troll. He purposely says stupid things that he knows will piss CP members off.

It's beyond comprehension that people are stupid enough to continue to fall for it.

It's Reerun.

[Bwana]

Gotta love Tom Cash. That dude has been banned so many ****ing times its crazy.

You know they should ban him from the lounge and just let him spew his garbage in DC.

It wasn't Tom Cash.

[L.A. Chieffan]

Yet you preach that that we should trade down because of value.. What retard GM is going to trade for your pick if you are telling us there isnt anything worth picking?

you sir are dumb....

Sometimes GMs do stupid things. Smart teams know when to take advantage. When's the last time the patriots took a qb in the first round? Case closed.

[Rausch]

on second thought, I'd do it in her pooper even IF her name was Herpes. I mean, just because that's her name doesn't mean she HAS herpes. we don't know that.

Nah, yer' a grown man.

By all means, have at...

[Reerun_KC]

It's Reerun.

Merry Christmas you cranky old bastard...

[Thig Lyfe]

Had I realized there would be a damn riot over a simple discussion I would have reconsidered. I was only opening discussion for other possibilities, for the sake of boredom, and half of 'The Planet' reacts to it as though I'm speaking blasphemy.

What if Pee-oli is still on board? You know he won't draft a QB.

Your thread is bad and you should feel bad.

[Rain Man]

Had I realized there would be a damn riot over a simple discussion I would have reconsidered. I was only opening discussion for other possibilities, for the sake of boredom, and half of 'The Planet' reacts to it as though I'm speaking blasphemy.

What if Pee-oli is still on board? You know he won't draft a QB.

We.

Are going.

To kill you.

Don't discuss the possibility of the T word. Don't acknowledge its existence. Don't say one word about anything draft-related unless the first letter of that word is Geno and the last letter is Smith.

[Rausch]

We.

Are going.

To kill you.


First evar post from Apricot-Angry (like that? I think it could catch on) with some major aggression.

If Big-Daddy-Tall-and-Leafy is upset you might-should reconsider...

[KCDC]

In today's NFL, the QB has taken on exponential significance. The Redskins have a worse roster than we do, but RG III makes them a winner. The Colts with Manning were always in the SB hunt. Without him, they were the worst team in the league and got the #1 pick. Coincidence? I think not.

So, having Geno Smith is worth more to our success than getting three starting caliber players at other positions. We have a team that can contend now if it just had a smart QB that could dissect defenses and be accurate on passes of over 10 yards.

[kcbubb]

Now you're just being ****ing stupid.

He isn't that good...

Yay!!!! A logical opinion!!!