Ferentz to Meet with Chiefs on Wednesday

[Marco Polo]

Marty Tirrell ‏@martytirrell
Kirk Ferentz to meet with Chiefs Wednesday - #Chiefs #yahoosportsradio

Marty Tirrell ‏@martytirrell
Patriots sources say Pioli and Ferentz began " informal chats" mid- season - #Chiefs #yahoosportsradio

[Titty Meat]

Yes a 4-8 college coach!

[DaKCMan AP]

No fucking way.

:spock:

[Rausch]

AHhahahahaahahahaah!

[spanky 52]

Pioli isn't going anywhere. This report sickens me.

[In58men]

To the ship baby!!!!!!

[stonedstooge]

I wonder if Pisoli didn't set up these dudes to interview and Chunt is letting it slide out of professional courtesy

[Rexx]

Noooooooooooo! You have got to be kidding me.

[BigMeatballDave]

Pioli isn't going anywhere. This report sickens me.

You evidently didn't hear Clark talk today.

This is an interview, nothing more.

[ModSocks]

Stupid. Clark just said Pioli wont have anything to do with the HC search.

Jut people trying to Link Pioli to Ferentz, yet again.

[BigMeatballDave]

I wonder if Pisoli didn't set up these dudes to interview and Chunt is letting it slide out of professional courtesy

BOOM

[MotherfuckerJones]

Oh my fucking facepalm god!

[ping2000]

Think of the poor slobs trying to sell that season ticket shit sandwich.

[Titty Meat]

You've got to be REALLY shitty to go 4-8 in the B1G

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

Makes me sick

[KCUnited]

Clark's pissed!

[TimeForWasp]

I think we have to interview one white coach before we can hire another black one.

[okcchief]

No way Hunt makes this move. It would be committing suicide after what he said today. Even I would be done after a prick tease like this.

[ChiTown]

ROFL

I can't take this seriously

[the Talking Can]

not a single fucking reason to interview him...

[ILChief]

After Clark's "I am hiring the coach" interviews, he will look like a total ass if he hires Pioli's BFF

[Fairplay]

Didn't he play for KU back in the 90's?

[Strongside]

Do we really have to speculate on this guy every fucking season!? I don't even know him and I hate him.

[htismaqe]

ROFL

Marty Tirell has been on 6 radio stations in 10 years. He's a fucking hack.

At least now everybody knows where this ridiculous rumor came from...

[cdcox]

I wonder if Pisoli didn't set up these dudes to interview and Chunt is letting it slide out of professional courtesy

My thought when the Atlanta interviews were announced.

If Clark goes with an obvious Pioli crony, then then his interview today was all bluster.

[Messier]

I've got to think Ol' Marty is working off old info or something.

The only person that would have interest in Ferentz is Pioli. The one fact we know is that Pioli has no involvement in the HC search.

[KurtCobain]

I wonder if Pisoli didn't set up these dudes to interview and Chunt is letting it slide out of professional courtesy

yup

This is pioli doing the typical friend thing, and Clark trying to make him feel important.

[BigMeatballDave]

I wonder if Pisoli didn't set up these dudes to interview and Chunt is letting it slide out of professional courtesy

.

[Fairplay]

Well, you want to interview at least 3 coaches anyway so you can say you went through a hiring process and didn't take the first one off the street.

[MotherfuckerJones]

All the candidates so far are guys that Pioli wants. Not clark. Keep it up assholes

[bevischief]

Cancer has a interview on Thursday.

[PRIEST]

Clark's pissed!





This :#

[ILChief]

Dirk Koetter doesn't sound as bad now

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Lol at the freaking out. Guess we are back to defcon 5.

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

Dirk Koetter doesn't sound as bad now

THIS

[In58men]

Dirk Koetter doesn't sound as bad now

God, we're so fucked.

[BryanBusby]

Hahaha @ anyone that believes Ferentz is leaving Iowa.

His contract has an 18 million dollar buy out and he's one of the top paid coaches in CFB and has one of the most cushiest gigs. His son is on the Hawkeyes staff and another son is a player on the team.

It's not happening. As much as Iowa fans hope it happens, it's not happening.

[mlyonsd]

Well at least we'd probably get to see Stanzi play. HAAA HAHA HAAHAHAHAAaahaahaaaa.

Uh, yeah, never mind.

[The Franchise]

Hahaha @ anyone that believes Ferentz is leaving Iowa.

His contract has an 18 million dollar buy out and he's one of the top paid coaches in CFB and has one of the most cushiest gigs. His son is on the Hawkeyes staff and another son is a player on the team.

It's not happening. As much as Iowa fans hope it happens, it's not happening.

This.

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

Hahaha @ anyone that believes Ferentz is leaving Iowa.

His contract has an 18 million dollar buy out and he's one of the top paid coaches in CFB and has one of the most cushiest gigs. His son is on the Hawkeyes staff and another son is a player on the team.

It's not happening. As much as Iowa fans hope it happens, it's not happening.

Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet

On Ferentz. So, he can walk. RT @ScottDochterman: There is no buyout for Kirk, FWIW. It's not in the contract, never was considered.

[ping2000]

Maybe Clark asked Pioli's best friend to break him the bad news.

[mlyonsd]

Hahaha @ anyone that believes Ferentz is leaving Iowa.

His contract has an 18 million dollar buy out and he's one of the top paid coaches in CFB and has one of the most cushiest gigs. His son is on the Hawkeyes staff and another son is a player on the team.

It's not happening. As much as Iowa fans hope it happens, it's not happening.
I thought his youngest son graduated this year.

[Chief Henry]

Marty Tirrell is a clown. He has worked and managed more radio stations in Iowa or Boston than than Whitlock has Buffets has on speed dial. You can not trust a single word that Tirrell says. He bills himself as the "Mouth of the Midwest".

[htismaqe]

http://gosublogger.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/midol1.jpg

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Haven't we gone through this at least the last 4 years???

[Easy 6]

Welp, marty tirrell? said its so, sooo...

[007]

After hearing Clark today I don't see this as anything but a token interview to make Scott feel like he has input.

[BryanBusby]

I thought his youngest son graduated this year.

His youngest kid was a true freshman this year iirc

Ferentz has a contract with the Hawkeyes for another 8 seasons and while RSS feed claims otherwise, the terms of it would make it expensive for either side to have a change of heart.

[ChiliConCarnage]

:#

I thought we were done with this Ferentz shit. Damn

[htismaqe]

I thought his youngest son graduated this year.

Nope. His youngest son is a freshman.

[htismaqe]

Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet

On Ferentz. So, he can walk. RT @ScottDochterman: There is no buyout for Kirk, FWIW. It's not in the contract, never was considered.

Ian is wrong. So is Albert Breer.

Ferentz absolutely DOES have a buyout.

[Titty Meat]

Wait so does Ferentz have a buy out or not?



Edit: Thanks Htis

[CaliforniaChief]

It had better not be Ferentz. That would be one of the worst hires in NFL history. And I'm a Hawkeyes fan. Hell, COLLEGE football has passed him by. The fact that Pioli thinks he would be a good NFL coach indicates what a brainless piece of shit Scott Pioli is.

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

Ian is wrong. So is Albert Breer.

Ferentz absolutely DOES have a buyout.

Ian's not reporting this its the Iowa beat reporter Scott Dochterman.

[Messier]

Is anyone looking for conformation on this? There's one Iowa guy, that seems to be floating things out there without knowing anything about the Chiefs, other than Pioli and Ferentz are friends. Looking at his tweets, he still thinks Pioli is leading the hunt for a new head coach.

[Hammock Parties]

I bet Pioli leaked this BS to make it seem like he still has balls.

Ego.

[FringeNC]

Where's there is so much smoke, there is probably fire. Pioli's intention since mid season probably has been to hire Ferentz; the question is whether Pioli's intentions are relevant at this point.

[RunKC]

Dirk Koetter is an understandable HC option, but Kirk Ferentz is a POS and I'm pissed that we would even waste critical time interviewing his sorry ass.

[Messier]

Where's there is so much smoke, there is probably fire. Pioli's intention since mid season probably has been to hire Ferentz; the question is whether Pioli's intentions are relevant at this point.

The smoke is from ONE GUY.

[ILChief]

Marty Mac, is this legit or Pioli leaking crap?

[Messier]

Did no one listen to the Hunt interview? Pioli isn't involved in any coaching search.

[WildTurkey]

Did no one listen to the Hunt interview? Pioli isn't involved in any coaching search.

This. No way in hell Ferentz meets Clark's "criteria" that he's looking for in a HC

[htismaqe]

Ian's not reporting this its the Iowa beat reporter Scott Dochterman.

Scott Dochterman covers high school sports for the Cedar Rapids Gazette.

[Titty Meat]

Scott Dochterman covers high school sports for the Cedar Rapids Gazette.


LMAO

[Hammock Parties]

Pioli's intention since mid season probably has been to hire Ferentz;

LMAO

God, what an absolute buffoon Scott Pioli is.

Herp derp, duh tree!

[htismaqe]

The smoke is from ONE GUY.

Yep. And that one guy is a complete tool.

He once got fired because he verbally abused a co-host on the air - he forgot to kill his mic and unleashed a bunch of f-bombs.

[Strongside]

Someone is floating this. Charlie Casserly had a report out a couple of days ago that he had spoken to Ferentz and had been told that he had no interest in leaving Iowa.

[BigRedChief]

Marty Tirrell ‏@martytirrell
Kirk Ferentz to meet with Chiefs Wednesday - #Chiefs #yahoosportsradio

Marty Tirrell ‏@martytirrell
Patriots sources say Pioli and Ferentz began " informal chats" mid- season - #Chiefs #yahoosportsradioThis is not what I'm hearing. I'm calling BS plant rumor. If Ferentz is indeed interviewing its for Pioli to sell Clark and him keep his job.

Everything points to a big name coach being brought in who will have full and complete control of coaches, game plans, use of players, their playing time and serious input into the draft. And, this is a big one, the coach only answers to Clark.

[ILChief]

This is not what I'm hearing. If Ferentz is indeed interviewing its for Pioli to sell Clark and him keep him job.

Everything points to a big name coach being brought in who will have full and complete control of coaches, game plans, use of players, their playing time and serious input into the draft. And, this is a big one, the coach only answers to Clark.

Cowher, Gruden, Reid, and Kelly are the only ones that would get that much power. Not guys like Koetter or Ferentz

[htismaqe]

Someone is floating this. Charlie Casserly had a report out a couple of days ago that he had spoken to Ferentz and had been told that he had no interest in leaving Iowa.

He doesn't. Confirmed it today.

[htismaqe]

This is not what I'm hearing. I'm calling BS plant rumor. If Ferentz is indeed interviewing its for Pioli to sell Clark and him keep his job.

Everything points to a big name coach being brought in who will have full and complete control of coaches, game plans, use of players, their playing time and serious input into the draft. And, this is a big one, the coach only answers to Clark.

Marty Tirell is one of the biggest hacks in Des Moines radio history. FWIW.

[BigRedChief]

Cowher, Gruden, Reid, and Kelly are the only ones that would get that much power. Not guys like Koetter or FerentzMy point exactly. And its Cowher up first.

[BigRedChief]

Marty Tirell is one of the biggest hacks in Des Moines radio history. FWIW.It's a radio guy? :shake:

Probably no more reliable than my local radio guy.

[Messier]

Trust me. Hunt's big coaching move to lead the Chiefs into a new era, and share power with a GM (that won't be Pioli), is not going to be a second rate college coach, that's Pioli's good friend.

[Titty Meat]

Marty Tirell is one of the biggest hacks in Des Moines radio history. FWIW.

Time to call him out on twitter.

[Bowser]

Time to call him out on twitter.

sic 'im

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Planet members would freak out over a rumor coming from some Mexican handing them a burrito at a taco stand.

[HonestChieffan]

God no college retreads

[siberian khatru]

Planet members would freak out over a rumor coming from some Mexican handing them a burrito at a taco stand.

Wait ... have you heard something?

[Titty Meat]

Planet members would freak out over a rumor coming from some Mexican handing them a burrito at a taco stand.

Trying to play media now/ Zacb

[htismaqe]

Trust me. Hunt's big coaching move to lead the Chiefs into a new era, and share power with a GM (that won't be Pioli), is not going to be a second rate college coach, that's Pioli's good friend.

Precisely.

Ian Rapaport is on NFLN right now still talking about it. It's like they never listened to what Hunt said.

SCOTT PIOLI IS NOT HIRING THE NEXT HEAD COACH.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Wait ... have you heard something?

Yeah, Cowher just bought a house in....

[chiefzilla1501]

Hunt would not have made the statement he made if he was talking about a crony pick. This sounds like Pioli desperately trying to bring in a coach who will save his job. Because he knows if it's any coach outside of the tree, he's as good as fired.

[Easy 6]

Planet members would freak out over a rumor coming from some Mexican handing them a burrito at a taco stand.

Normally i would agree, but this IS marty "freaking" tirrel we're talking about here.

A KNOWN bastion of integrity, his reputation precedes him...

[Titty Meat]

Marty Tirrill called me a dipshit lol. This guys easy to troll.

[Chiefaholic]

God no college retreads

What are some of the key attributes you’re looking for in our next head coach?

“I want somebody who’s a proven leader, somebody who has been a part of building a successful program, somebody who’s an effective communicator and teacher, somebody who has a high-football IQ and is willing to roll up his sleeves and really work hard, somebody who will hold himself accountable, as well as his coaches and the team and then finally, somebody of high character, somebody with a lot of integrity.”

You mentioned looking for a proven communicator, a leader, how do you determine that?

“That’s what the interview process is really for. Obviously, some people have had a chance, through other head-coaching opportunities, where you can evaluate them in their roles in the places they’ve been, but the interview process is really designed to help you figure out those qualities and try to pick the guy that’s going to be the right coach to lead the Kansas City Chiefs on a go-forward basis.”

How will your experience in making difficult decisions with other sports franchises help you in the decision-making process for our next head coach?

“It’s part of the business and it’s always a tough part of the business. Obviously, you would like to hire somebody and have him spend the rest of his career with you and that will certainly be our goal as we go into this process, to find somebody who can be with us for the long-term. I am a strong believer in continuity and if you can find the right individual in the coaching position, it allows you to have continuity.”

Why the immediacy of the hiring process?

“We do have a number of other teams out there who are looking for a head coach and it’s always very competitive, the first couple of weeks of January, that’s one of the reasons why it’s important for me to start the search right away. We want to be in the mix with top candidates. We don’t have a timeline but at the same time, we want to make sure we have a shot at a lot of the candidates that we put on our A-list.”

I understand that you are implementing a new-reporting structure for the next coach, what will that look like and why the change?

“Historically, the head coach of the Kansas City Chiefs has reported to the general manager; we’re going to change that reporting structure on a go-forward basis. The head coach is going to report directly to me. I’m making this change because I think it gives us the best chance of finding the best coach for the Kansas City Chiefs.”

[Strongside]

I'm now hearing rumors that Ferentz will not be coming to Kansas City, due his recent commitment to play Han Solo's brother Larry in the upcoming 'Star Wars: Episode 7' film.

[The Bad Guy]

This just can't be real. I'm done listening to any info I receive. Hopefully this report is bs.

[BlackHelicopters]

Double secret probation?

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Marty Tirrill called me a dipshit lol. This guys easy to troll.

Good. Expose him for the hack he is.

[BlackHelicopters]

CoachK was spotted in Columbia with a realtor?

[BigRedChief]

This just can't be real. I'm done listening to any info I receive. Hopefully this report is bs.you would not believe some of the wild shit coming into my inbox.

At least triple the BS rumor crap the last time we switched coaches.

[htismaqe]

Marty Tirrill called me a dipshit lol. This guys easy to troll.

ROFL

[Chiefaholic]

Read what Clark is looking for in his hand picked head coach and tell me in Ferentz fits the description. No way in hell does he fit the mold of what Clark states he's looking for.

[FloridaMan88]

Peter King on NBC last night was very definitive in saying that Ferentz would NOT be a candidate for the Chiefs HC position.

Combine that with what Clark said today... I'd say this report has no credibility.

[htismaqe]

Peter King on NBC last night was very definitive in saying that Ferentz would NOT be a candidate for the Chiefs HC position.

Combine that with what Clark said today... I'd say this report has no credibility.

You know what's funny?

Everybody is speculating about Ferentz because of his connection to Pioli.

How do you suppose Peter King came to the conclusion that Ferentz wasn't an option?

Because SCOTT PIOLI told him he wasn't.

People are just blind.

[mdchiefsfan]

“Historically, the head coach of the Kansas City Chiefs has reported to the general manager; we’re going to change that reporting structure on a go-forward basis. The head coach is going to report directly to me. I’m making this change because I think it gives us the best chance of finding the best coach for the Kansas City Chiefs.”

that last sentence makes me wonder how, if Hunt truly realizes this, he can keep Pioli at his position. If the GM keeps you from getting the best HC available isn't he a hindrance and unable to do his job?

[FloridaMan88]

You know what's funny?

Everybody is speculating about Ferentz because of his connection to Pioli.

How do you suppose Peter King came to the conclusion that Ferentz wasn't an option?

Because SCOTT PIOLI told him he wasn't.

People are just blind.

Not to mention Clark is hiring the HC, not Fat Scott.

[htismaqe]

Not to mention Clark is hiring the HC, not Fat Scott.

That's what I mean.

Either Scott told him:

1) I called Ferentz and he's not interested or

2) I'm not sure what my job status is but if they let me hire another coach, it won't be Ferentz or

3) Clark told me he's hiring the next coach

[Messier]

that last sentence makes me wonder how, if Hunt truly realizes this, he can keep Pioli at his position. If the GM keeps you from getting the best HC available isn't he a hindrance and unable to do his job?

It's my guess this is all about negotiating a buyout, or Hunt is offering a diminished role for Pioli.

Just some guesses for why he'd wait.

[Chiefaholic]

that last sentence makes me wonder how, if Hunt truly realizes this, he can keep Pioli at his position. If the GM keeps you from getting the best HC available isn't he a hindrance and unable to do his job?

Thus the reason I stated that Pioli's days are numbered. For reasons unknown, whether it be Hunts lawyers working out the financial details, or Clark forcing Pioli to retire by bypassing him on what SHOULD be his job, I don't know. One way or another, I feel about 90% certain we'll have a new GM on draft day. Hopefully one who takes the time to talk to our current scouts, and recognizes the importance of a franchise QB to an NFL franchise.

**** Pee-Hole-E

[aturnis]

You've got to be shitty to go 4-8 in the B1G

Or have Matt Cassel's little brother at QB... Vandenberg is shitty almost identically to Cassel.

[KurtCobain]

please God don't let Matt Cassel have a little brother

[htismaqe]

Or have Matt Cassel's little brother at QB... Vandenberg is shitty almost identically to Cassel.

He's worse than Cassel. He's got the perfect combination of poor instincts and robot-like lack of passion...

[BossChief]

Vandenburg is fucking terrible. I can't stand watching that turd play.

[Mr_Tomahawk]

I hope this isnt true...

[Chief_For_Life58]

Makes me sick

this

[Mr. Kotter]

Courtesy vist only...hopefully....:cuss:

[Warrior5]

The whole damn situation makes me want to vomit. The fact that Pioli is still employed means Hunt has no balls and no desire to do what's right for the team and the fans. He's gutless.

Until Pioli is fired, I could give a rat's ass about any HC interviews.

Piss on this whole situation.

[MotherfuckerJones]

I dont believe this until it happens. Doesnt in anyway match up with Clarks comments today.

[JohnnyHammersticks]

Clark's pissed himself!

fyp

[BigMeatballDave]

The whole damn situation makes me want to vomit. The fact that Pioli is still employed means Hunt has no balls and no desire to do what's right for the team and the fans. He's gutless.

Until Pioli is fired, I could give a rat's ass about any HC interviews.

Piss on this whole situation.

You might want to listen to one of Clark's interviews.

[jspchief]

Marty Tirrell makes Nick Athan look like Walter Cronkite.

Seriously there is not a bigger joke in sports radio than this guy. I would give more credence to this if it was tweeted by a drunk homeless woman. He says shit like this to get Hawkeye fans in a frenzy. He's literally inventing a topic so he has something to talk about on his shit radio show on a shitty am station that reaches about a 3rd of the county.

[Messier]

The whole damn situation makes me want to vomit. The fact that Pioli is still employed means Hunt has no balls and no desire to do what's right for the team and the fans. He's gutless.

Until Pioli is fired, I could give a rat's ass about any HC interviews.

Piss on this whole situation.

Really? Because this day has made me have a whole new respect for Hunt. It's nice to have an owner that cares enough to take over all football operations and decisions, and to change how the team has been run for fifty years, in order to change it's direction.

[WildTurkey]

Considering the hack this "rumor" is coming from I highly doubt a visit is taking place

[Mr_Tomahawk]

Marty Tirrell makes Nick Athan look like Walter Cronkite.

Seriously there is not a bigger joke in sports radio than this guy. I would give more credence to this if it was tweeted by a drunk homeless woman. He says shit like this to get Hawkeye fans in a frenzy. He's literally inventing a topic so he has something to talk about on his shit radio show on a shitty am station that reaches about a 3rd of the county.

Hoping for this...

[Warrior5]

Really? Because this day has made me have a whole new respect for Hunt. It's nice to have an owner that cares enough to take over all football operations and decisions, and to change how the team has been run for fifty years, in order to change it's direction.

Really. He hasn't fired Pioli, and I'm not buying the goofy explanation, regardless of how Hunt sounds in the interviews.

[AussieChiefsFan]

ah...shit.

[ROYC75]

You know what's funny?

Everybody is speculating about Ferentz because of his connection to Pioli.

How do you suppose Peter King came to the conclusion that Ferentz wasn't an option?

Because SCOTT PIOLI told him he wasn't.

People are just blind.

Plus deaf, if they heard Clark, it does not fit the bill.

[Skyy God]

F that noise.

[Messier]

Really. He hasn't fired Pioli, and I'm not buying the goofy explanation, regardless of how Hunt sounds in the interviews.

Alright.


Today was a good day for the Chiefs. Clearly Pioli will no longer call any shots for this team again. That's all I care about. For all we know Hunt and Pioli are negotiating a buyout and he'll be out in a few days or weeks. Sure it's a guess, but it's just as valid as just thinking Hunt is full of crap.

[MotherfuckerJones]

No one else is reporting it nor talking about it. Its BS. Its Pioli trying to play his poker game like Babb said

[DaWolf]

No one else is reporting it nor talking about it. Its BS. Its Pioli trying to play his poker game like Babb said

This. Until I hear this from a credible source, I don't buy it...

[jspchief]

This. Until I hear this from a credible source, I don't buy it...

Yeah, I can't emphasise enough how uncredible this source is. Anyone that knows of Marty Tirrell knows that there's nothing to worry about with this story.

[Hoover]

Marty is a blow hard. I don't trust him.

[WildTurkey]

Yeah, I can't emphasise enough how uncredible this source is. Anyone that knows of Marty Tirrell knows that there's nothing to worry about with this story.

He's terrible.. Been on about every shitty AM sports station in Iowa. Didn't even know he was still around

[Hoover]

Marty does his radio show from a show room of a car dealership. He's friends with Bob Ryan, which is his Patriots source. They guy is an ass, and is wrong most of the time.

[JCharles1981]

I will only be watching the Chiefs games the first half of the season if Clark Hunt says yes to hiring a 4-8 college football coach. That would be worse than the time Peterson hired Herm Edwards 7 years ago.

[Warrior5]

Alright.


Today was a good day for the Chiefs. Clearly Pioli will no longer call any shots for this team again. That's all I care about. For all we know Hunt and Pioli are negotiating a buyout and he'll be out in a few days or weeks. Sure it's a guess, but it's just as valid as just thinking Hunt is full of crap.

If Hunt is in fact "negotiating a buyout" of Pioli's contract before he shitcans him, then the day that happens, I'll gladly eat crow and sing Hunt's praises.

I sincerely hope your theory is true, but as of right now, Pioli is still employed, even though he "clearly... will no longer call any shots".

[Jayhawk Chief]

Hunt is a moron.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Hunt is a moron.

No he isn't. You're the maroon for believing garbage from complete hacks.....and for worshiping a cartoon pilgrim chicken.

[Mi_chief_fan]

Hunt is a moron.

:shake:

[King_Chief_Fan]

maybe Ferentz is coming in only as a courtesy that Pioli commited Hunt to?

[Mi_chief_fan]

maybe Ferentz is coming in only as a courtesy that Pioli commited Hunt to?

Or, maybe,he isn't coming at all?

[ILChief]

Peter King ‏<s>@</s>SI_PeterKing (https://twitter.com/SI_PeterKing) RT <s>@</s>thayne_griffin (https://twitter.com/thayne_griffin): Any favorites for KC job? Please don't let it be Ferentz. ... KC can't hire a coach who's 19-19 over last 3 yrs in B10.

(https://twitter.com/SI_PeterKing/status/286113893108051968)
(https://twitter.com/SI_PeterKing/status/286113893108051968)

[King_Chief_Fan]

Or, maybe,he isn't coming at all?

that would be best

[Chiefs Pantalones]

Peter King says stop worrying.

@SI_PeterKing: RT @thayne_griffin: Any favorites for KC job? Please don't let it be Ferentz. ... KC can't hire a coach who's 19-19 over last 3 yrs in B10.

[Chiefs Pantalones]

Peter King ‏<s>@</s>SI_PeterKing (https://twitter.com/SI_PeterKing) RT <s>@</s>thayne_griffin (https://twitter.com/thayne_griffin): Any favorites for KC job? Please don't let it be Ferentz. ... KC can't hire a coach who's 19-19 over last 3 yrs in B10.

(https://twitter.com/SI_PeterKing/status/286113893108051968)
(https://twitter.com/SI_PeterKing/status/286113893108051968)

My bad lol

[ILChief]

My bad lol

I was getting ready to Q you :)

[Chiefnj2]

Based on insider rumors Daniel Jeremiah predicts Ferentz will be KC coach if Hunt doesn't have the balls to get rid of Pioli.

[BigMeatballDave]

Based on insider rumors Daniel Jeremiah predicts Ferentz will be KC coach if Hunt doesn't have the balls to get rid of Pioli.
:rolleyes:

Didn't ANYBODY hear Clark talk at all yesterday?

[Tombstone RJ]

Based on insider rumors Daniel Jeremiah predicts Ferentz will be KC coach if Hunt doesn't have the balls to get rid of Pioli.

hasn't Clark already proved this? :clap:

[Chiefnj2]

:rolleyes:

Didn't ANYBODY hear Clark talk at all yesterday?

"At the end of the day I know what the fans want and it's the same thing I want. We want to win. If we can do that, I think the fans will get onboard with whoever is in the [GM] position."

[FAX]

The whole damn situation makes me want to vomit. The fact that Pioli is still employed means Hunt has no balls and no desire to do what's right for the team and the fans. He's gutless.

Until Pioli is fired, I could give a rat's ass about any HC interviews.

Piss on this whole situation.

Stand down, Mr. Warrior5. Stand Down!!!

We are merely in a twilight period before Dr. Evil is burned at the stake around midnight. There's no cause for alarm.

Nobody (other than Mr. Dane McCloud) expected Pioli to perform his GM duties as though he were a brain-damaged orangutan. As a result, Clark probably gave him a generous termination compensation package (confident that he'd never have to use it). That means one of three things has to occur. Either, A) Pioli is convinced to fall on his own sword after all his authority is stripped, or B) An acceptable compromise is negotiated, or C) Clark's attorneys tell him it's okay to fire him for cause and let the courts decide it.

All else is media rat-droppings unworthy of our concern or attention.

FAX

[CoMoChief]

I swear to fucking god...............thought Clark was involved w/ this, not Pioli

[BigMeatballDave]

"At the end of the day I know what the fans want and it's the same thing I want. We want to win. If we can do that, I think the fans will get onboard with whoever is in the [GM] position."

You are completely missing the part where Clark said the HC and GM will be on equal footing and both report to him.

Also, during the interviews, he never mentions Pioli's name when referring to the GM position.

Edit: He did not say that in this video: http://www.kcchiefs.com/media-center/videos/One-on-One-Clark-Hunt/84faf772-7672-47f7-a135-2637a4f99bcc

[BigMeatballDave]

I swear to fucking god...............thought Clark was involved w/ this, not Pioli

Considering the type of HC he wants, there is NO WAY Ferentz is the next one.

He has stripped Pioli of this decision, why give one of his buddies this position?

[DeezNutz]

Clark:

-repeatedly apologized for the season.
-said that he was embarrassed by the product.
-noted that the team had spent considerable cash resources, which made the poor product even more difficult to watch.
-explained that Pioli is not allowed to address the media.

Pioli was fired yesterday, as the above loudly proclaim. It simply has to be a contract issue/dispute. Common sense suggests little other alternative.

[BigMeatballDave]

Clark:

-repeatedly apologized for the season.
-said that he was embarrassed by the product.
-noted that the team had spent considerable cash resources, which made the poor product even more difficult to watch.
-explained that Pioli is not allowed to address the media.

Pioli was fired yesterday, as the above loudly proclaim. It simply has to be a contract issue/dispute. Common sense suggests little other alternative.

This was especially telling. Among MANY of his other comments yesterday.

[stonedstooge]

Clark:

-repeatedly apologized for the season.
-said that he was embarrassed by the product.
-noted that the team had spent considerable cash resources, which made the poor product even more difficult to watch.
-explained that Pioli is not allowed to address the media.

Pioli was fired yesterday, as the above loudly proclaim. It simply has to be a contract issue/dispute. Common sense suggests little other alternative.

Sure seems like the supposed interviews lined up so far are completely opposite of Chunt's rhetoric yesterday.

[Hammock Parties]

What were Clark's exact words when he said Pioli couldn't address the media?

[FAX]

What were Clark's exact words when he said Pioli couldn't address the media?

"No".

FAX

[BigMeatballDave]

What were Clark's exact words when he said Pioli couldn't address the media?

He said Scott would not be addressing the media.

[Chiefnj2]

Clark:

-repeatedly apologized for the season.
-said that he was embarrassed by the product.
-noted that the team had spent considerable cash resources, which made the poor product even more difficult to watch.
-explained that Pioli is not allowed to address the media.

Pioli was fired yesterday, as the above loudly proclaim. It simply has to be a contract issue/dispute. Common sense suggests little other alternative.

You don't think there are contract issues/disputes involved with the other GM firings?

[DeezNutz]

Sure seems like the supposed interviews lined up so far are completely opposite of Chunt's rhetoric yesterday.

Agreed. But this can be silly season when it comes to misinformation. We'll know soon enough if Hunt is a lying, cowardly sack. Right now, I'm going to believe that he isn't.

[Messier]

If Hunt is in fact "negotiating a buyout" of Pioli's contract before he shitcans him, then the day that happens, I'll gladly eat crow and sing Hunt's praises.

I sincerely hope your theory is true, but as of right now, Pioli is still employed, even though he "clearly... will no longer call any shots".

Sorry that you're more willing to believe lone internet hacks over the on air live point blank questioning of the owner. He didn't waver, he wasn't vague. He and he alone will pick the next head coach. Right now there is no GM, Pioli isn't making a single decision regarding the team, and even if he's retained, which, judging by the interview, is not likely, FA, and draft picks are more likely to be who the new coach wants than the GM.

My guess is as Hunt makes the rounds looking at coaches, he'll hear over and over what we already know; No one wants to work with Pioli, and the people that DO want to work for Pioli, aren't on the coaching list. I think one of the best pieces of news yesterday, that proves this, Josh MacDaniels is returning to NE. You know, he was on Pioli's short list, and one of the few candidates that would work with him.

[ILChief]

He said Scott would not be addressing the media.

Petro point blank asked him if Scott would be talking to the media and he said "No, he won't"

[stonedstooge]

Agreed. But this can be silly season when it comes to misinformation. We'll know soon enough if Hunt is a lying, cowardly sack. Right now, I'm going to believe that he isn't.

I sure hope you're right. I bought in again with Clark yesterday

[DeezNutz]

You don't think there are contract issues/disputes involved with the other GM firings?

Clark could very easily exercise the buyout and move on with life. This would be the preferable and logical step from my view. However, as the Haley contract dispute has shown us, Clark isn't opposed to lawyering up to try to avoid payment.

Why? No clue. Definitely seems counter-productive, but if this ends up being the worst of his sins as an owner, I can deal.

[Chiefnj2]

Didn't Clark talk tough and Pioli sit by like a scolded schoolboy at the close of the 2011 season?

[DeezNutz]

Don't remember what Clark said. Pioli went on his first "I need to do my job better" tour, and promptly resumed shitting himself, though hosts of posters followed him with wet wipes and Febreeze to try to convince us otherwise.

[BigMeatballDave]

Didn't Clark talk tough and Pioli sit by like a scolded schoolboy at the close of the 2011 season?

Did you, at all, listen to his interview with Petro?

[BigMeatballDave]

I'll add that if Clark is interested in Cowher or Reid as the next HC, Pioli will be out. NO WAY would those guys work with Scott.

[Messier]

I will say, like Petro said, the GM issue needs to be resolved before a coach is hired, other wise, it will be the only thing brought up at the PC.

[ILChief]

Did you, at all, listen to his interview with Petro?

Here's a link if he hasn't

http://www.stationcaster.com/player_skinned.php?s=26&c=373&f=929331

[DeezNutz]

I will say, like Petro said, the GM issue needs to be resolved before a coach is hired, other wise, it will be the only thing brought up at the PC.

Probably be resolved at the same time. HC will be announced with personnel control, and we'll learn that Pioli has been relieved of his duties.

We'll never see or hear him speak as a member of the organization again.

[Hammock Parties]

Probably be resolved at the same time. HC will be announced with personnel control, and we'll learn that Pioli has been relieved of his duties.

We'll never see or hear him speak as a member of the organization again.

If it goes down this way, Clark is doing it the only way anyone wants to see it done.

Sweep Pioli under the rug never to be heard from again.

Just perfect.

[BigMeatballDave]

I will say, like Petro said, the GM issue needs to be resolved before a coach is hired, other wise, it will be the only thing brought up at the PC.

Considering the fact that Clark is doing this, and Pioli has no role in this decision, I don't see it as a problem.

I bet Pioli is out by Feb.

And if Cowher or Reid is hired, I don't give a shit where Pioli is.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Varys will never be a GM in the NFL again with the way Hunt owned him yesterday. Proud moment in Chiefs history.

[Mi_chief_fan]

Probably be resolved at the same time. HC will be announced with personnel control, and we'll learn that Pioli has been relieved of his duties.

We'll never see or hear him speak as a member of the organization again.

That would be great.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Here's a link if he hasn't

http://www.stationcaster.com/player_skinned.php?s=26&c=373&f=929331

I'm so fucking proud to be a Chiefs fan right now I'm listening to this again. I believed in Clark before, and I believe even more now. I've ranted over him in the past, but I've always thought the guy wanted to be a winner.

[FAX]

It's actually a brilliant strategy undertaken by Clark.

Assuming Pioli refuses to concede failure and quit, Clark just removes the need for a GM and all authority and responsibility from the position. As a result, he can keep Pioli in a closet doing absolutely nothing for a year, avoid paying out an early termination package, and simply transfer control of football operations to the new coach.

Clark has been thinking about this.

FAX

[DeezNutz]

If it goes down this way, Clark is doing it the only way anyone wants to see it done.

Sweep Pioli under the rug never to be heard from again.

Just perfect.

There's really no other logical conclusion that one can draw in my view. You can't prohibit the highest-ranking employee to address the media one day and then ever go back to "normal." Once the line is crossed, one can never go back.

This is similar to the Cassel situation. Once he was benched, he was done; once Pioli was silenced, he was essentially fired.

[BigMeatballDave]

There's really no other logical conclusion that one can draw in my view. You can't prohibit the highest-ranking employee to address the media one day and then ever go back to "normal." Once the line is crossed, one can never go back.

This is similar to the Cassel situation. Once he was benched, he was done; once Pioli was silenced, he was essentially fired.

This is precisely my feeling on this.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

At best (for him) he's a eunuch puppet.

[bevischief]

Can we get a banner up for tomorrow?

[OnTheWarpath15]

There's really no other logical conclusion that one can draw in my view. You can't prohibit the highest-ranking employee to address the media one day and then ever go back to "normal." Once the line is crossed, one can never go back.

This is similar to the Cassel situation. Once he was benched, he was done; once Pioli was silenced, he was essentially fired.

My only concern is that he's painting himself into a corner.

By not firing Pioli outright, he creates three possible problems:


1.) Clark is forced to limit his HC search to guys who are capable of having control of personnel decisions.

This is a pretty small list to begin with, and you're already hearing rumblings from guys like Gruden, Cowher and Billick that they aren't interested in coming back. That pretty much leaves Andy Reid and Chip Kelly, who other teams are already fighting over, while we're wasting time with Dirk Koetter and a Rooney Rule candidate.


2.) Hiring a HC and not finding a quality GM.

For sake of conversation, lets say Clark hires Dirk Koetter. Who is the new GM? Guys like Ross, Gamble and Dorsey will either be long gone, or aren't going to be interested in a position in which they have no control over who the HC is. GM's expect to be able to hire a HC.


3.) Fuck me, but when Reid goes to Arizona or San Diego, and Kelly goes to Cleveland, and there's nothing left that satisfies the first option, and option two comes to fruition and Clark can't find a GM - what happens then?

We all know what happens then.



I know everyone is excited about Clark stepping out on a limb, and I am as well - but he could have stepped out on a thicker limb. I'm not seeing how throwing all your eggs in a Bill Cowher type basket is what is best for the organization.

[DeezNutz]

My only concern is that he's painting himself into a corner.

By not firing Pioli outright, he creates three possible problems:


1.) Clark is forced to limit his HC search to guys who are capable of having control of personnel decisions.

This is a pretty small list to begin with, and you're already hearing rumblings from guys like Gruden, Cowher and Billick that they aren't interested in coming back. That pretty much leaves Andy Reid and Chip Kelly, who other teams are already fighting over, while we're wasting time with Dirk Koetter and a Rooney Rule candidate.


2.) Hiring a HC and not finding a quality GM.

For sake of conversation, lets say Clark hires Dirk Koetter. Who is the new GM? Guys like Ross, Gamble and Dorsey will either be long gone, or aren't going to be interested in a position in which they have no control over who the HC is. GM's expect to be able to hire a HC.


3.) **** me, but when Reid goes to Arizona or San Diego, and Kelly goes to Cleveland, and there's nothing left that satisfies the first option, and option two comes to fruition and Clark can't find a GM - what happens then?

We all know what happens then.



I know everyone is excited about Clark stepping out on a limb, and I am as well - but he could have stepped out on a thicker limb. I'm not seeing how throwing all your eggs in a Bill Cowher type basket is what is best for the organization.

I think it's option 1, and I don't believe there's much debate about this. Furthermore, I believe that Hunt is very confident about what the outcome will be in KC or he wouldn't make this type of move.

I don't believe for a moment that a true "search" in underway. Clark has been working on this change for some time, and he knows the endgame.

If he doesn't, if he made this bold announcement without near certain knowledge of who the next coach will be, Clark is one recklessly stupid individual.

I don't believe that Hunt is the riverboat gambler type, but we'll see.

[BigMeatballDave]

Seems to me the Chiefs have the most attractive position for a HC.

#1 pick. Their choice of QB. Several solid pieces in place on the field already.

[DeezNutz]

Philly isn't bad. Chicago and SD are pretty fucking decent depending upon how one views those two QBs.

I'd say KC would be next in line.

[OnTheWarpath15]

I think it's option 1, and I don't believe there's much debate about this. Furthermore, I believe that Hunt is very confident about what the outcome will be in KC or he wouldn't make this type of move.

I don't believe for a moment that a true "search" in underway. Clark has been working on this change for some time, and he knows the endgame.

If he doesn't, if he made this bold announcement without near certain knowledge of who the next coach will be, Clark is one recklessly stupid individual.

I don't believe that Hunt is the riverboat gambler type, but we'll see.

So let's make a list:

It pretty much has to be either Cowher, Billick or Gruden - unless I'm forgetting someone.

If Clark knows the endgame, as you say, that eliminates guys like Andy Reid and Chip Kelly - they wouldn't be interviewing elsewhere.

And if Clark knows the endgame, why the charade? Why not hire the guy and get to work on the most important draft in the franchise's history?

[BigMeatballDave]

Philly isn't bad. Chicago and SD are pretty fucking decent depending upon how one views those two QBs.

I'd say KC would be next in line.

If they like Rivers or Cutler.

If I'm a HC, I'd rather draft my own.

[DeezNutz]

So let's make a list:

It pretty much has to be either Cowher, Billick or Gruden - unless I'm forgetting someone.

If Clark knows the endgame, as you say, that eliminates guys like Andy Reid and Chip Kelly - they wouldn't be interviewing elsewhere.

And if Clark knows the endgame, why the charade? Why not hire the guy and get to work on the most important draft in the franchise's history?

There's been chatter about all of the above, but nothing has happened yet.

If a coach isn't in place by the end of next week, it's probably worth ratcheting up the concern level a few notches because Hunt might be in over his head.

Based on his words, he seems to be shooting for one of the big names that you list initially. I can't fathom that he's taking a wild shot, either, since men like Hunt are often conservative by nature.

[OnTheWarpath15]

If they like Rivers or Cutler.

If I'm a HC, I'd rather draft my own.

And if you're Bill Cowher, and don't like any of the options?

Where are you getting a QB?


Say what you will about Rivers and Cutler, but some guys are going to be looking for a win-now situation - and both SD and Chicago are in that position.

[OnTheWarpath15]

There's been chatter about all of the above, but nothing has happened yet.

If a coach isn't in place by the end of next week, it's probably worth ratcheting up the concern level a few notches because Hunt might be in over his head.

Based on his words, he seems to be shooting for one of the big names that you list initially. I can't fathom that he's taking a wild shot, either, since men like Hunt are often conservative by nature.

I agree his words seem to indicate a Cowher-type hire.

So why wait?

And what happens when he can't talk Cowher, Billick or Gruden out of retirement?

[DeezNutz]

Rivers is interesting. So talented and (previously) productive, yet he looked truly bad this past season. Not sure what the hell is wrong with him.

As for your last point, OTWP, I don't think there's any type of charade at this point. There's simply no chance that a coach will be fired at 10:00 AM, with a new coach introduced at 2:00 PM. Right or wrong, there's a level of unprofessionalism in that approach.

By this time next week, I think there's a great chance we know the next HC for the Chiefs.

[DeezNutz]

And what happens when he can't talk Cowher, Billick or Gruden out of retirement?

If it's one of these three, Hunt knows the answer right now. If he doesn't, he's dumb as fuck.

At this point, lawyers would be drawing up papers; it's long past time to make a sale.

[OnTheWarpath15]

If it's one of these three, Hunt knows the answer right now. If he doesn't, he's dumb as fuck.

At this point, lawyers would be drawing up papers; it's long past time to make a sale.

Who else could it be?

As you said, Clark would be foolish to take this approach and not know the end result.

That leaves guys like Kelly and Reid out - they aren't going to waste other organizations' time by interviewing if they already have some semblance of an agreement with Clark.

It just scares the shit out of me, because common sense says he's putting all his eggs in the Bill Cowher basket - and is going to be fucked if he's turned down.

[DeezNutz]

Who else could it be?

As you said, Clark would be foolish to take this approach and not know the end result.

That leaves guys like Kelly and Reid out - they aren't going to waste other organizations' time by interviewing if they already have some semblance of an agreement with Clark.

It just scares the shit out of me, because common sense says he's putting all his eggs in the Bill Cowher basket - and is going to be ****ed if he's turned down.

Holmgren, which seems about as exciting as watching old people fuck.

It's funny, his overall record as a HC is very good, but I look at him as such a "meh" candidate that it's not even funny. Dude could be the king of the 9-7 record.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Holmgren, which seems about as exciting as watching old people fuck.

It's funny, his overall record as a HC is very good, but I look at him as such a "meh" candidate that it's not even funny. Dude could be the king of the 9-7 record.

He's an average coach, and a below average personnel guy.

Not to mention, dude is 64 years old. I want someone that's going to be here a while.

[DeezNutz]

He's an average coach, and a below average personnel guy.

Not to mention, dude is 64 years old. I want someone that's going to be here a while.

Reid would be a much better choice in my view, given Clark's criteria. Like you, I don't want Holmgren in KC, but that's a guy who might be looking to get back in the game to attempt to leave on his terms.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Reid would be a much better choice in my view, given Clark's criteria. Like you, I don't want Holmgren in KC, but that's a guy who might be looking to get back in the game to attempt to leave on his terms.

With Reid likely comes Heckert and some mediocre drafts.

Bottom line, by painting himself into a corner, are we really getting the best candidate?

Of the guys you and I have spent the last 10 minutes talking about, do any of them really excite you?

[DeezNutz]

With Reid likely comes Heckert and some mediocre drafts.

Bottom line, by painting himself into a corner, are we really getting the best candidate?

Of the guys you and I have spent the last 10 minutes talking about, do any of them really excite you?

Not especially. Philosophically, I think it's best to try to look forward in terms of coaching potential. However, I can understand the logic behind Clark's approach because of how disastrous the Pioli hire has been.

That fat fuck has taken the franchise to new lows and completely alienated the fan base. While we can debate the "excitement factor" with respect to the Billicks or Cowhers of the world, the fact is that these guys at least restore a baseline of performance and overall respectability, both in the league and with the fans.

It's a conservative play on Clark's part, and I would wager that he believes he's not in a position to gamble based on how bad Pioli was at his job.

[Messier]

I agree that Pioli still being here is meaningless. Everyone is nervous that he's going to somehow be back at his old job, but what's being ignored is that Scotts old job isn't going to exist like it did before. There won't be a GM calling any shots. The GM won't be leading the charge, talking to the media, saying what HE wants to do. Hunt gave Pioli the wheel, and he drove the car into a ditch. Now, Hunt is saying, you can sit in the passenger seat and play with the radio, unless the new driver hates your taste in music, if so you can just get out.

[BigMeatballDave]

With Reid likely comes Heckert and some mediocre drafts.

Didn't Reid and Heckert have some good drafts before?

[BigMeatballDave]

Of the guys you and I have spent the last 10 minutes talking about, do any of them really excite you?

Pioli has scarred me. There isn't a single HC or GM that excites me.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Didn't Reid and Heckert have some good drafts before?

Occasionally, but nothing eye-popping.

Not to mention, they've spent the last 10+ years evaluating talent for a 43 defense - and didn't exactly do a bang-up job at that.

Not sure these are the guys I want picking players for a 34.

[htismaqe]

Rivers is interesting. So talented and (previously) productive, yet he looked truly bad this past season. Not sure what the hell is wrong with him.

You're not sure what's wrong with him? He's got the mental fortitude of a 14-year old girl...

[DeezNutz]

You're not sure what's wrong with him? He's got the mental fortitude of a 14-year old girl...

Which has always been the case, and he's been very productive in spite of this.

His best WR was a guy off the street and Gates is old/broken, so I'd say the root causes were independent of Rivers.

[KCinNY]

Occasionally, but nothing eye-popping.

Not to mention, they've spent the last 10+ years evaluating talent for a 43 defense - and didn't exactly do a bang-up job at that.

Not sure these are the guys I want picking players for a 34.

Which begs the question...are we still sold out to the 34? Might the new coach tell Tamba to add some weight and move back to RDE?

[htismaqe]

Which has always been the case, and he's been very productive in spite of this.

His best WR was a guy off the street and Gates is old/broken, so I'd say the root causes were independent of Rivers.

Productive schmoductive...stats are stats. He's a loser.

[FAX]

Which begs the question...are we still sold out to the 34? Might the new coach tell Tamba to add some weight and move back to RDE?

Considering that this defense (as it is currently designed and populated) can't stop a sneeze, Mr. KCinNY, I'm not sure why we would care.

Hali was extraordinarily average this year and the officials have basically negated his pass rush when he isn't. DJ played well overall, but not up to his potential. Berry was up and down like Kathy Griffen on Anderson Cooper and Houston showed flashes then totally disappeared. As for our d-line, they are a joke and our d-backs are even funnier.

So I say, what defense?

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[whoman69]

Ferentz is only brought in if his buddy Pioli is retained. If this is Pioli's last ditch hope to keep his job, its pathetic.

[Ultra Peanut]

88 MILES PER HOUR, MARTY