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Bump
01-08-2013, 06:07 PM
We already know the #1 selection goes to Geno Smith, no more worrying about that.

So, who's gonna be available in the 2nd round? I know we can't truly know, especially not before the combine. But do we have anybody in mind?

Looks like some of these guys will be available around that time

S Matt Elam, Florida
TE Tyler Eifert, Notre Dame
WR Tavon Austin, WVU
QB Matt Barkley, USC
OT DJ Fluker, Alabama
WR DeAndre Hopkins, Clemson
WR Robert Woods, USC
CB Jordan Poyer, Oregon St
LB Alec Ogletree, Georgia
S Robert Lester, Alabama
WR Terrance Williams, Baylor


I'm really not too sure at this point but Austin would be a good pick and maybe Elam 2nd.

Nightfyre
01-08-2013, 06:08 PM
CB - Xavier Rhodes - Florida State would have to be near the top of my list of potential candidates.
How about S - Eric Reid - LSU?
How about WR - Justin Hunter - Tennessee

RunKC
01-08-2013, 06:08 PM
We already know the #1 selection goes to Geno Smith, no more worrying about that.

So, who's gonna be available in the 2nd round? I know we can't truly know, especially not before the combine. But do we have anybody in mind?

Looks like some of these guys will be available around that time

S Matt Elam, Florida
TE Tyler Eifert, Notre Dame
WR Tavon Austin, WVU
QB Matt Barkley, USC
OT DJ Fluker, Alabama
WR DeAndre Hopkins, Clemson
WR Robert Woods, USC
CB Jordan Poyer, Oregon St
LB Alec Ogletree, Georgia
S Robert Lester, Alabama
WR Terrance Williams, Baylor


I'm really not too sure at this point but Austin would be a good pick and maybe Elam 2nd.

Best player available.

I would add Barrett Jones to that list, too.

Titty Meat
01-08-2013, 06:56 PM
Barrett Jones has a lisc franc injury please quit repeating the same bullshit in every thread.

RunKC
01-08-2013, 07:03 PM
Barrett Jones has a lisc franc injury please quit repeating the same bullshit in every thread.

It's a 12 week rehab at most. He'll be fine by training camp.

NJChiefsFan
01-08-2013, 07:06 PM
CB - Xavier Rhodes - Florida State would have to be near the top of my list of potential candidates.
How about S - Eric Reid - LSU?
How about WR - Justin Hunter - Tennessee

This. I have seen a lot of mocks saying NE may take Rhodes or Austin, both guys we may be looking at.

chop
01-08-2013, 07:07 PM
Best player available.

I would add Barrett Jones to that list, too.

Is there really a best player available selection? It is subjective not objective.

Bump
01-08-2013, 07:08 PM
ya Xavier Rhodes and Eric Reid could be good choices too.

BossChief
01-08-2013, 07:49 PM
Positions we have an immediate need for a significant upgrade:

FS (McDonald and move Berry to FS)
CB2 (not sure my preference here)
ILB ("")
TE2 (the kid from ND)
WR2 (Bailey is a life long friend of Geno and would be a smart draft pick)
WR3 (Austin)

PHOG
01-08-2013, 07:59 PM
Cut McClusterfuck, and add Tavon......

Dayze
01-08-2013, 07:59 PM
out of that list, I'd go with Ogletree.

PHOG
01-08-2013, 08:00 PM
After we take Geno #1

NIUhuskies
01-08-2013, 08:02 PM
If Eifert is there from ND id love to grab him there. hed fit great in the west coast offense

Red Dawg
01-08-2013, 08:06 PM
After we take Geno #1

We gotta get a legit wr. If we get one in fa then we need a corner.

DaKCMan AP
01-08-2013, 08:12 PM
Xavier Rhodes
Matt Elam
Sharrif Floyd
Cordarrelle Patterson
Tavon Austin
Justin Hunter
Tony Jefferson
DeAndre Hopkins
Zach Ertz

O.city
01-08-2013, 08:14 PM
BPA.

Sharrif Floyd, Hopkins, Rhodes etc, don't really care.

DaKCMan AP
01-08-2013, 08:16 PM
out of that list, I'd go with Ogletree.

I like Ogletree but I think we can find better value and a better fit later. Ogletree is athletic and fast - traits exhibited by both DJ & Houston. We need a run stuffer. Kevin Minter, Shayne Skov, Andrew Jackson, Jon Bostic, and Nico Johnson are all better fits and can be had later.

Mecca
01-08-2013, 08:16 PM
WR most likely highly doubt Hopkins gets into round 2 though.
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Mecca
01-08-2013, 08:17 PM
Skov got a medical hardship year and is returning to Stanford.
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DaKCMan AP
01-08-2013, 08:18 PM
Skov got a medical hardship year and is returning to Stanford.
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Didn't see that. Still think this draft is deep at ILB and we don't need to take one until rds 3-5.

O.city
01-08-2013, 08:19 PM
I love Kevin Minter, if he were there, he'd get my vote.

Mecca
01-08-2013, 08:20 PM
If QB is the first pick expect offense, speed WR the most glaring need.
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Dartgod
01-08-2013, 08:39 PM
We already know the #1 selection goes to Geno Smith, no more worrying about that.

We do?

Mecca
01-08-2013, 08:41 PM
If Woods really fell there you'd have to take him but I'd be stunned if he didn't go round 1.
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hometeam
01-08-2013, 08:42 PM
I like Tavon~

DaKCMan AP
01-08-2013, 08:46 PM
If Woods really fell there you'd have to take him but I'd be stunned if he didn't go round 1.
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Ok USC homer ROFL


Not that they'll all last to rd 2, but I like Keenan Allen, Patterson, Hunter more than Woods. I can see Da'Rick Rogers, Terrance Williams, and Tavon Austin going before him too.

CrazyPhuD
01-08-2013, 08:57 PM
No trading our #2 for Luck????

Mecca
01-08-2013, 09:13 PM
Ok USC homer ROFL


Not that they'll all last to rd 2, but I like Keenan Allen, Patterson, Hunter more than Woods. I can see Da'Rick Rogers, Terrance Williams, and Tavon Austin going before him too.

Allen's probably 1st off the board, Austin's really small think he falls a bit. Patterson's a fringe 1 Hunter doesn't look fully recovered and Rogers of course is a major character concern. Woods will move up because he's fast and polished.
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DaneMcCloud
01-08-2013, 09:14 PM
If QB is the first pick expect offense, speed WR the most glaring need.
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Hmm, I think that after QB, a CB opposite Flowers is the most glaring need.

NJChiefsFan
01-08-2013, 09:16 PM
Hmm, I think that after QB, a CB opposite Flowers is the most glaring need.

I agree. Assuming neither spot is filled in FA I think our current corners outside of Flowers are a lot weaker then Breaston and Baldwin.

Mecca
01-08-2013, 09:17 PM
Well ok but we have an offensive head coach, usually taking a QB 1 means giving him things to succeed.
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NJChiefsFan
01-08-2013, 09:18 PM
I don't disagree that our new QB could use speed at WR. Or that they will really look to add some. I just think the CB2 spot is that weak.

the Talking Can
01-08-2013, 09:34 PM
ogletree is going to be bad ass...not sure where he fits if we go to a 4-3

i'd take the 'best' wr/te available for geno, but safety and cb are also options

if you could guarantee bailey would be there in the 3rd, i'd take him and use the 2nd on defense

DaneMcCloud
01-08-2013, 09:38 PM
Well ok but we have an offensive head coach, usually taking a QB 1 means giving him things to succeed.
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I get it but Baldwin, Breaston and Moeaki are enough for now, especially if Boss comes back healthy (which I think is 30/70 at this point but worth mentioning).

They definitely need a talented CB and safety or they're going to lose a shit ton of games 38-41, like the 2002 and 2004 Chiefs.

KevB
01-08-2013, 09:43 PM
Ok USC homer ROFL


Not that they'll all last to rd 2, but I like Keenan Allen, Patterson, Hunter more than Woods. I can see Da'Rick Rogers, Terrance Williams, and Tavon Austin going before him too.

I'd like WR in the 2nd, and this is a good list. I'd probably go Allen/Patterson, Williams, Hunter, then Austin. Of course some of those guys (hopefully not all of them) will be gone in the 1st. Austin is explosive, but his size simply limits his ceiling.

BossChief
01-08-2013, 09:47 PM
Bowe
Breaston
Bailey
Baldwin

With a good quarterback, that's a hell of a receiving corps.

RunKC
01-08-2013, 09:48 PM
I get it but Baldwin, Breaston and Moeaki are enough for now, especially if Boss comes back healthy (which I think is 30/70 at this point but worth mentioning).

They definitely need a talented CB and safety or they're going to lose a shit ton of games 38-41, like the 2002 and 2004 Chiefs.

I agree with this. I hate Dex as much as the next guy on here, but I you've got to think that Ried wants to prove that he can turn him into something since he wanted him in the draft.

BossChief
01-08-2013, 09:50 PM
What if we take Bailey in the second and Austin is there in the third?

Great Expectations
01-08-2013, 09:54 PM
Where is Jonathan Banks?

SAUTO
01-08-2013, 09:58 PM
What if we take Bailey in the second and Austin is there in the third?

Austin is projected to go on the first
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RunKC
01-08-2013, 09:59 PM
I'd add David Amerson and Tony Jefferson to the list too. Really good players.

Mizzou_8541
01-08-2013, 10:01 PM
A QB according to every idiot that calls into 610/810.

RunKC
01-08-2013, 10:07 PM
Walter's new mock has us going...

1. Geno Smith QB WVU
2. Justin Hunter WR Tennessee
3. Desmond Trufant CB Washington

Would be very happy with this draft.

Buckweath
01-08-2013, 10:11 PM
BPA between WR, CB and passrushing 3-4 end. An ILB would be nice but good QBs will take advantage of the lack of passrush by the dline (unless Poe becomes a monster) and no good #2 CB.

Chiefshrink
01-08-2013, 10:15 PM
Cut McCluster****, and add Tavon......

This !!! BUT Andy is a Dexter guy just so you know...... we beat him to the punch in the 2nd rd that year in the draft.

NJChiefsFan
01-08-2013, 10:16 PM
BPA between WR, CB and passrushing 3-4 end. An ILB would be nice but good QBs will take advantage of the lack of passrush by the dline (unless Poe becomes a monster) and no good #2 CB.

Pass-rushing 34 end over a cb in certain scenarios for you? I would put ILB there, or S over a pass rusher.

Great Expectations
01-08-2013, 10:16 PM
I'd add David Amerson and Tony Jefferson to the list too. Really good players.

As a diehard OU fan absolutely no to Jefferson until the fourth. Undersized and slow for the NFL. He made Johnny football look like T Austin.

Mr_Tomahawk
01-08-2013, 10:17 PM
Tyler Bray seeings we arent going to be drafting a QB with the 1st overall...

DaneMcCloud
01-08-2013, 10:21 PM
Cut McClusterfuck, and add Tavon......

Cut him? WTF?

If he doesn't fit in Reid's plan (which is yet to be determined), he's worth a late draft choice to someone.

Cutting him before training camp is just downright fucking stupid.

DaneMcCloud
01-08-2013, 10:22 PM
Tyler Bray seeings we arent going to be drafting a QB with the 1st overall...

If the Chiefs draft Bray, expect a veteran QB for at least one season, if not two.

BossChief
01-08-2013, 10:25 PM
I'd probably try and trade up from our 2 if a guy like Teo' slips to around 20.

DaneMcCloud
01-08-2013, 10:29 PM
I'd probably try and trade up from our 2 if a guy like Teo' slips to around 20.

Really? I've been saying it all season but I think the guy is slow as shit.

He's clearly not in the same class as Willis, Bowman, Urlacher, Lewis, Wagner, etc. and is most likely several notches below Rey Mauluga.

He's a 3rd rounder at best, although I'm sure some dumbass team will draft him higher because of his "myth".

I wouldn't touch the guy outside of the 4th round. He's Aaron Curry and Rolando McClain, without the baggage.

Chiefshrink
01-08-2013, 10:34 PM
I'd probably try and trade up from our 2 if a guy like Teo' slips to around 20.

I noticed that Teo is pretty small and got dominated by the size of Bama last night.

Reaper16
01-08-2013, 10:37 PM
I'd probably try and trade up from our 2 if a guy like Teo' slips to around 20.

Fuck Te'o. Draft Kevin Minter in the 2nd. He's going to be the better pro.

Sorter
01-08-2013, 11:22 PM
Skov>Te'o

DaneMcCloud
01-08-2013, 11:23 PM
And Tavon Austin? The fucker is like 5'8, 173 pounds.

Don't the Chiefs already have that guy?

BossChief
01-08-2013, 11:27 PM
Can never have enough black Welkers.

Sorter
01-08-2013, 11:30 PM
And Tavon Austin? The ****er is like 5'8, 173 pounds.

Don't the Chiefs already have that guy?

Only difference is, this midget is actually fast. Not just quick.

Sorter
01-08-2013, 11:31 PM
Also, 173> the soaking wet 152 DMC weighs in at rofl.

DaneMcCloud
01-08-2013, 11:33 PM
Only difference is, this midget is actually fast. Not just quick.

But he's tiny and therefore, fragile.

As I've said in other threads, safety, CB, ILB, and swing guard/center are all more important, IMO, than adding yet another receiver to this roster.

Who's going to start opposite Flowers? Jalil Brown?

Simplicity
01-08-2013, 11:35 PM
And Tavon Austin? The ****er is like 5'8, 173 pounds.

Don't the Chiefs already have that guy?

5'9 176 lbs and expected to grow a inch or 2 more. This kid actually has speed and quickness. He has the moves which DMC never had and is actually a special teams threat. Tavon Awesome > DMC

Sorter
01-08-2013, 11:36 PM
But he's tiny and therefore, fragile.

As I've said in other threads, safety, CB, ILB, and swing guard/center are all more important, IMO, than adding yet another receiver to this roster.

Who's going to start opposite Flowers? Jalil Brown?

Hypotetically us staying in the 3-4 but swtiching to a 1-gap, my priorities for Draft +FA would be

1 QB
2. CB
3. DE
4. WR
5. Safety ( both free and strong, BPA)
7. ILB

However, I also think that DMC, Baldwin, and probably Wylie need to be purged from the roster. I know that seems harsh for Devon but he never made the most out of his opportunities and still runs poor routes IMO.

If Bowe leaves, WR jumps to 3 as I think this class is loaded with solid WRs who will be picked between the 2nd and 4th round this year.

RunKC
01-08-2013, 11:38 PM
In John Dorsey's first year as Director of Football Operations, the team drafted CB Casey Hayward from Vanderbilt in the 3rd round who has become one of the best rookie defenders in the league.

Not worried about this guy scouting a good CB in the 2nd/3rd round at all. :clap:

DaneMcCloud
01-08-2013, 11:38 PM
5'9 176 lbs and expected to grow a inch or 2 more. This kid actually has speed and quickness. He has the moves which DMC never had and is actually a special teams threat. Tavon Awesome > DMC

What? Expected to grow more? Is he fucking 15 years old?

Simplicity
01-08-2013, 11:39 PM
What? Expected to grow more? Is he ****ing 15 years old?

You do realize males tend to still grow until they hit their mid to high 20's.

DaneMcCloud
01-08-2013, 11:42 PM
You do realize males tend to still grow until they hit their mid to high 20's.

LMAO

Simplicity
01-08-2013, 11:44 PM
LMAO

Just saying.

DaneMcCloud
01-08-2013, 11:46 PM
Just saying.

I'm just saying you're a fucking idiot.

Males stop growing in height at the end of puberty, which is generally 18 years of age.

They don't continue to grow in height during their 20's.

ROFL

cabinet247
01-08-2013, 11:51 PM
GENO NO. ONE...........IN ALL OTHER PICKS I TRUST ANDY R. I HAVE WHOLE HEARTEDLY BOUGHT IN.CLEAN HOUSE,NEW BOSS IN TOWN,WONT DISPUTE HIS CHOICES TILL HE MAKES A BAD ONE

Molitoth
01-08-2013, 11:56 PM
I AM PECKING THIS WITH MY FINGERS...

JCharles1981
01-09-2013, 05:17 AM
Don't cross your fingers for Geno Smith yet. Another thread stupidly suggested that the Chiefs might pick offensive tackle Luke Joeckel in the first round. Let's hope not.

CoMoChief
01-09-2013, 05:31 AM
As much as we need Oline depth it'd be stupid not to draft Barrett Jones, someone who's been the BEST OL-man at more than one position in college, someone who's a monster at 6'5 315 and someone that can play virtually every spot on the Oline. Allen and Stephenson are garbage and Asamoah was so/so last season. This is an even bigger position of need if Albert doesn't re-sign/franchised. Even if we keep Albert, we draft Jones and we could go in the season w/ just 7 OL. Or you never know what this coaching staff will do. Maybe draft Loeckel and move Albert to guard and go w/ Loeckel, Albert, Jones, Hudson, Winston - and to be honest, that would be the best combination of all.

jd1020
01-09-2013, 05:36 AM
As much as we need Oline depth it'd be stupid not to draft Barrett Jones, someone who's been the BEST OL-man at more than one position in college, someone who's a monster at 6'5 315 and someone that can play virtually every spot on the Oline. Allen and Stephenson are garbage and Asamoah was so/so last season. This is an even bigger position of need if Albert doesn't re-sign/franchised. Even if we keep Albert, we draft Jones and we could go in the season w/ just 7 OL. Or you never know what this coaching staff will do. Maybe draft Loeckel and move Albert to guard and go w/ Loeckel, Albert, Jones, Hudson, Winston - and to be honest, that would be the best combination of all.

So we're no longer drafting Te'O #1?

Now we are drafting Joekel #1 and Jones #2?

AAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!

KC Tattoo
01-09-2013, 05:40 AM
Send the second to DallASS for Brandon Carr. / Butthurt and fuck you Scott Pioli

ChiefGator
01-09-2013, 05:45 AM
Positions we have an immediate need for a significant upgrade:

FS (McDonald and move Berry to FS)
CB2 (not sure my preference here)
ILB ("")
TE2 (the kid from ND)
WR2 (Bailey is a life long friend of Geno and would be a smart draft pick)
WR3 (Austin)

I think I would call that TE1. I want Moeaki to prove me wrong, but so far it isn't happening. And having a big target out there would help a rookie QB.

Wouldn't mind seeing Jordan Reed, who is entering the draft early. He came to Florida as a QB and is leaving as our best TE since Hernandez. He was clutch this year and should only get better. Not sure where he will end up getting slotted in the draft though. Don't know anything about the ND TE.

CoMoChief
01-09-2013, 06:14 AM
So we're no longer drafting Te'O #1?

Now we are drafting Joekel #1 and Jones #2?

AAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!

It could happen. Not saying it will.

But Joeckel could very well be a possibility especially if Bowe is kept and Albert leaves

honestly I don't think we keep both Bowe AND Albert

Nightfyre
01-09-2013, 07:28 AM
CoMo, it seems like every time you say something retarded, I can't think any less of you. But you continuously top yourself. Just. Continuously.

htismaqe
01-09-2013, 07:29 AM
It could happen. Not saying it will.

But Joeckel could very well be a possibility especially if Bowe is kept and Albert leaves

honestly I don't think we keep both Bowe AND Albert

Tyler Wilson is not going to be available in the 2nd round.

AussieChiefsFan
01-09-2013, 07:29 AM
Austin/Bailey

the Talking Can
01-09-2013, 07:30 AM
I'd probably try and trade up from our 2 if a guy like Teo' slips to around 20.

fuck no

he's a 3rd round talent in a 1st round marketing campaign...

RunKC
01-10-2013, 07:07 PM
Another guy to look at is CB Logan Ryan from Rutgers.

He's the guy who took over for Devin McCourty and has had a great career at Rutgers. 6 ft 190, has very good coverage skills and solid tackling skills in open space.

He's a 3rd round guy right now, but his character and hard work is very noticeable and it should launch him to the 2nd round somewhere.

Would love this kid in the 2nd or 3rd. Check him out if you get a chance.

Titty Meat
01-10-2013, 07:14 PM
A offensive playmaker.

Hog's Gone Fishin
01-10-2013, 07:35 PM
I think Reid can utilize the weapons on offense we have, we really are loaded with talent but just have been drenched with offensive coaching that makes Crusty the clown look genius. Mccluster will finally show why he was thought so much of under Reid and we do have a speed WR in Newsome that can be brought into the picture.

I think we will be looking for a solid CB opposite flowers with the 2nd pick. Then we will be taking best players available after that.

DaneMcCloud
01-10-2013, 07:36 PM
A offensive playmaker.

The Chiefs have enough playmakers right now.

CB and Safety take precedence.

keg in kc
01-10-2013, 07:38 PM
The Chiefs have enough playmakers right now.

CB and Safety take precedence.I would agree with that except that I believe a true slot speed threat (think Tavon Austin) could I think make an enormous impact on the offense moving forward. Get McCluster off the field.

We may also have a starting position open if Bowe is gone.