John Dorsey agrees to be the Chiefs next GM

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

Reid Ferrin ‏@KCChiefs_Reid

John Dorsey agrees to be the Chiefs next GM. More info to come. #Chiefs

[The Bad Guy]

There it is.

Bow down and kiss my ring, ha.

[O.city]

So they wait all week, then announce it DURING the Packers game?

Ha.

[Rasputin]

ON THE SAME DAY BRONCOS LOSE IN THE PLAYOFFS BOOM CH KA

[Mr_Tomahawk]

But but but Green Bay is playing!

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Just wonderful. Haha

[BigMeatballDave]

There it is.

Bow down and kiss my ring, ha.

:hail:

[mcaj22]

I think you mean Not Josh Looney

[BlackHelicopters]

A new machine is being assembled. Gotta like it.

[Mr_Tomahawk]

There it is.

Bow down and kiss my ring, ha.

Thanks for....?

[Chiefs=Champions]

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[dirk digler]

This is the best day in a long time

[Sassy Squatch]

Excellent.

[siberian khatru]

There it is.

Bow down and kiss my ring, ha.

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[Munson]

:thumb:

[SAUTO]

Woot
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[The Bad Guy]

Thanks for....?

That was more meant for Billay.

[DeezNutz]

There it is.

Bow down and kiss my ring, ha.

I will gladly kiss your ring if you're willing to lick my...

[Cmd'r&Chief]

I'm so Fucking happy, the picture is near complete...only Smith remains

['Hamas' Jenkins]

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[The Bad Guy]

I will gladly kiss your ring if you're willing to lick my...

...

[Saccopoo]

One more to go:

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[Tribal Warfare]

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[Dave Lane]

This is the best day in a long time

Nope just since ***** was shit canned...

[Shaid]

So damn happy right now.

[DeezNutz]

...

LMAO.

Thanks again for all of the updates, bro.

[Mr_Tomahawk]

.

You said it...!

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[DTLB58]

Can this night get any better without us being IN the playoffs?! NOoooo!

:clap:

[-King-]

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ROFL

[The Bad Guy]

LMAO.

Thanks again for all of the updates, bro.

My pleasure. Now please send your 99 dollars and give me your email to get on my exclusive list.

[DTLB58]

So they wait all week, then announce it DURING the Packers game?

Ha.

NO crap! My kid text me and I'm like No way!? I'm trying to watch the freaking game!

[DeezNutz]

Dorsey + Reid = home run and an impressive one at that.

We'll see if they perform to their potential, though.

[Mr_Tomahawk]

What a great fucking weekend.

[Saccopoo]

You said it...!

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[Cmd'r&Chief]

Hope to hear confirmation of this soon

[Red Dawg]

Great pick

[SAUTO]

Hope to hear confirmation of this soon

That WAS confirmation
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[DTLB58]

My pleasure. Now please send your 99 dollars and give me your email to get on my exclusive list.

Make that .99 and ya got a deal :p

[Titty Meat]

There it is.

Bow down and kiss my ring, ha.

We can still be friends!

[SAUTO]

Dorsey + Reid = home run and an impressive one at that.

We'll see if they perform to their potential, though.

This. And I like that they announced out right as the broncos lost...

Sign of things to come for them
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[DC.chief]

Hell yeah! What a day. Suck it manning

[silver5liter]

Best day ever

[RealSNR]

Best. Day. Ever.

[O.city]

Only way this day gets better is if Manning announces tonight he's retiring.

[Megbert]

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that lady needs to shave.

[Mr_Tomahawk]

Only way this day gets better is if Manning announces tonight he's retiring.

Fuck that.

I want to beat his ass next year.

[FringeNC]

So he didn't want to be a distraction, that's all.

[KChiefs1]

What an amazing day!!!!!!!!

[HemiEd]

Great news, but the timing is odd.

[BossChief]

It keeps getting better.

We NEED to draft Geno, though...or all these moves mean far less.

[DeezNutz]

What's funny is that the tenor of CP will change dramatically if the Chiefs nut up and take a QB at 1/1. There will be, relatively speaking of course, zero talk of losing for draft position next year, record be damned.

[The Franchise]

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I'm saving that shit so I can post it when we draft Geno.

[MotherfuckerJones]

What a fucking day!! ROFL Denver and cunt Manning was eliminated then Dorsey named GM!! Cherry on top! Cheers fellas im getting ripped! Thanks BadGuy!!! Appreciate it man. Keep it coming

[Stinger]

Dorsey to the Chiefs and then Payton choking.....

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[O.city]

So Bad Guy, who are they drafting now at 1?


I kid I kid.

[Titty Meat]

It keeps getting better.

We NEED to draft Geno, though...or all these moves mean far less.

If Reid and Dorsey think Geno isn't worth the #1 pick i'll trust them.

[ClearmontChief]

AdamSchefter Adam Schefter
As expected, John Dorsey has agreed to become Chiefs GM, team announced.

[O.city]

The Chiefs seem to have hired the best HC on the market and the best GM on the market.


So far, so good.

[mdchiefsfan]

There it is.

Bow down and kiss my ring, ha.

:hail:

[farmerchief]

Great way to start the offseason! Everything looking good so far!

[mdchiefsfan]

Hope has been restored

[The Bad Guy]

Can't wait to see all of Pioli's scouts whacked off the team page to rid us of the last piece of filth left from shitbags's regime.

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

Adam Caplan ‏@caplannfl

John Dorsey will be introduced as the Chiefs GM on Monday at 2 p.m. CST.

[milkman]

Only way this day gets better is if Manning announces tonight he's retiring.

Oh hell no!

Two more first round playoff exits, at least, with one of them at the hands of the Chiefs.

That's my dream.

[Titty Meat]

Can't wait to see all of *****'s scouts whacked off the team page to rid us of the last piece of filth left from shitbags's regime.

How will that work with scouts? Will the new ones be hired within a few weeks before the SR Bowl and combine?

[EagleRob]

Atta boy, Clark. You done good.

[O.city]

Wonder what Pioli will do next year?

If that asshole ends up on TV like Millen, I'll throw away my tv.

[DeezNutz]

Of course, we need to remember that '13 is an evaluation year for Reid and Dorsey.

[mcaj22]

Wonder what ***** will do next year?

If that asshole ends up on TV like Millen, I'll throw away my tv.

"let's move on"

didnt you tell me that today? lol

[MahiMike]

Strange timing but hopefully true!

[milkman]

Wonder what ***** will do next year?

If that asshole ends up on TV like Millen, I'll throw away my tv.

Then you won't be able to watch Geno rape the league in Chiefs red.

[O.city]

"let's move on"

didnt you tell me that today? lol

I wasn't the one to bring it up.


Stalk much?

[SAUTO]

Strange timing but hopefully true!

Again this is confirmation.

this guy is the chiefs pr guy.

He is making the announcement for the team
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[O.city]

Then you won't be able to watch Geno rape the league in Chiefs red.

Eh, it would be more fun to listen to Len and Mitch if that were to happen anyway.

[milkman]

Strange timing but hopefully true!

You do realize that this news is coming from the Chiefs website mouthpiece, right?

[The Bad Guy]

How will that work with scouts? Will the new ones be hired within a few weeks before the SR Bowl and combine?

I would imagine Dorsey will start lining up his staff of college scouts, cap guy, director of pro personnel/college scouting over the next 2-3 weeks.

Some guys may stay, but not many.

[mcaj22]

he is the Not Josh Looney role

[O.city]

Considering most guys were Pioli yes men, I'd assume most won't be staying.

[The Franchise]

I wonder if Heckert comes in in a lesser role.

[ArrowheadMagic]

I wonder if Heckert comes in in a lesser role.
1. No way we are that lucky.
2. Maybe after he doesnt get a GM job takes Football ops or pro personnel job as a fall back?

Be a great get if it happens.

[DTLB58]

Kansas City Chiefs ‏@kcchiefs

We will formally intro John Dorsey as 6th GM in franchise history on Mon. Jan 14, at 2 p.m. CT. Go to http://kcchiefs.com for live coverage

[MotherfuckerJones]

Atta boy, Clark. You done good.

What the hell's going on with your coaching search bud? LOL cant figure it out.

[Canofbier]

Awesome move. This has been a pretty darn good offseason so far - let's just hope that we kill the draft and our new coordinators exceed our expectations.

[Ultra Peanut]

Awesome night.

[MotherfuckerJones]

I hope Dorsey walks in to the room of scouts. Pulls the pin from the grenade and walks back out

[milkman]

I don't know if these are the best hires (I do like Dorsey a lot, still lukewarm at best with Reid), but I am pretty happy that we are getting things together so quickly.

[O.city]

So this will be an evaluation year? I'm confused?

[Ceej]

that lady needs to shave.

A possible Dorsey crash course for us not in the know, please.

[The Poz]

Rotoworld's take on it:

http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/1354/chiefs-offense

"Chiefs hired John Dorsey as general manager.
For the third straight offseason, the Packers are losing GM Ted Thompson's right-hand man after Reggie McKenzie took the Raiders' GM job in 2012 and John Schneider became Seattle's GM in 2011. Dorsey will enter a situation more like Schneider's, beginning as second fiddle to powerful coach Andy Reid with a role likely to increase as the years go on. Dorsey has spent 22 years in player personnel. He was Green Bay's Director of Football Operations in 2012

[chiefzilla1501]

I hope Dorsey walks in to the room of scouts. Pulls the pin from the grenade and walks back out

Why? Our scouts weren't the problem. The scouts' job is to follow Pioli's playbook. This would be the same stupid mistake we made when Pioli arrogantly chose to ignore Peterson's scouts for the 2009 draft.

[O.city]

Why? Our scouts weren't the problem. The scouts' job is to follow *****'s playbook. This would be the same stupid mistake we made when ***** arrogantly chose to ignore Peterson's scouts for the 2009 draft.

The scouts we have are all Pioli yes men.

[FringeNC]

Dorsey and Reid have a lot of work to do. Was looking at NFL stats today, and the D was actually worse in yards per play than the O. Only 3 teams gave up more yards per play than we did. What a disaster the Pioli era was.

[Smed1065]

Glad this is confirmed, finally. Great day today.

[milkman]

Why? Our scouts weren't the problem. The scouts' job is to follow *****'s playbook. This would be the same stupid mistake we made when ***** arrogantly chose to ignore Peterson's scouts for the 2009 draft.

Different situations.

Pioli and the coaching staff weren't in place until late February, early March, giving the team little to no time to get things set up.

This is getting done quick, and there will be time to get others in place in plenty of time ot make evaluations.

[DeezNutz]

Why? Our scouts weren't the problem. The scouts' job is to follow *****'s playbook. This would be the same stupid mistake we made when ***** arrogantly chose to ignore Peterson's scouts for the 2009 draft.

We have no idea if our scouts are as dumb as Pioli or not. Given the fact that he hired them and our drafts were paltry at best, I'm going to go out on a limb and say they probably aren't very fucking good.

[O.city]

I like that it's getting done quick and he's not pigeonholing us in regards to the DC.

[hometeam]

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[Mr_Tomahawk]

Different situations.

***** and the coaching staff weren't in place until late February, early March, giving the team little to no time to get things set up.

This is getting done quick, and there will be time to get others in place in plenty of time ot make evaluations.

Out of the 8 or so teams to fire their HC/GM...I believe we have the quickest turn-around time in regards to the bringing in a new regime this season. Completely fucking different than when Scott came in...

[Messier]

I'm sure it's already been thought of, but there must have been a provision not to announce it until after the game started.

[TLO]

Donks lose and Dorsey hired.

It is a good day

[MoreLemonPledge]

How long until Dorsey's name is filtered out?

[O.city]

So Bad Guy, what are you hearing now? Whats left to be filled/done?

[Fritz88]

Atta boy, Clark. You done good.

Can't say that enough.

[ChiefGator]

I thought I heard at one point that Pioli ignored much of the scouting reports, and generally felt he could scout better than them. I think it came out last year around this time, but maybe I'm remembering wrong.

[The Bad Guy]

So Bad Guy, what are you hearing now? Whats left to be filled/done?

God damn you are persistent.

I'm going to lay off this guy with constant emails. There's not a lot of news now that Dorsey's been hired until free agency and I want to keep him in my good graces until then.

[SAUTO]

We have no idea if our scouts are as dumb as Pioli or not. Given the fact that he hired them and our drafts were paltry at best, I'm going to go out on a limb and say they probably aren't very fucking good.
How anyone could say definitively that the scouts weren't a problem is beyond me.
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[chiefzilla1501]

The scouts we have are all ***** yes men.

All scouts are supposed to be. It's not their job to challenge their superiors on scheme.

[Mr_Tomahawk]

God damn you are persistent.

I'm going to lay off this guy with constant emails. There's not a lot of news now that Dorsey's been hired until free agency and I want to keep him in my good graces until then.

LMAO

[O.city]

All scouts are supposed to be. It's not their job to challenge their superiors on scheme.

Scheme? No thats set.


But be a yes man and agree with what the boss says no matter what? No thanks.

[1ChiefsDan]

What a great day.

[O.city]

God damn you are persistent.

I'm going to lay off this guy with constant emails. There's not a lot of news now that Dorsey's been hired until free agency and I want to keep him in my good graces until then.

Heh, I try.

All good, thanks for the info.

[SAUTO]

God damn you are persistent.

I'm going to lay off this guy with constant emails. There's not a lot of news now that Dorsey's been hired until free agency and I want to keep him in my good graces until then.
Good thinking.

would be nice to get some fa/draft news...
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[The Bad Guy]

All scouts are supposed to be. It's not their job to challenge their superiors on scheme.

You're fucking clueless.

The scouts job is to watch tape/go to games and evaluate talent. It's not to be a fucking yes man.

[DeezNutz]

All scouts are supposed to be. It's not their job to challenge their superiors on scheme.

You know he wasn't talking about scheme. And a healthy organization will have a lot of heated debates about players.

But Pioli was far too insecure to allow for this type of environment, based on everything we learned about that worthless fuck.

[O.city]

It does seem that you are getting a shitton more info with the new regime, which I like.

[teedubya]

America Fuck Yeah!

[DeezNutz]

It does seem that you are getting a shitton more info with the new regime, which I like.

Dude, has Bad Guy contacted you with any new information yet? Hearing anything?

[Titty Meat]

I just got the e-mail about the info club Badguy is starting

[O.city]

Dude, has Bad Guy contacted you with any new information yet? Hearing anything?

Eh, didn't mean that the way it sounds.


It's cool that he's getting all this information. I really appreciate it.

[DeezNutz]

Eh, didn't mean that the way it sounds.


It's cool that he's getting all this information. I really appreciate it.

Just flipping you shit.

[O.city]

Sorry for being a persistent jackass, my bad.

[O.city]

I do know that it would be fucking awesome to go to a prime time night playoff game at Arrowhead, in which we actually won.

So there's a goal for next year.

[The Bad Guy]

Sorry for being a persistent jackass, my bad.

Don't sweat it man.

[Cmd'r&Chief]

This has to be the most exciting off season to date. Really.

[The Bad Guy]

I do know that it would be ****ing awesome to go to a prime time night playoff game at Arrowhead, in which we actually won.

So there's a goal for next year.

I'll bet the Eagles/Chiefs game is in prime time next year.

[chiefzilla1501]

We have no idea if our scouts are as dumb as ***** or not. Given the fact that he hired them and our drafts were paltry at best, I'm going to go out on a limb and say they probably aren't very ****ing good.

While I hate Pioli, he ran a very good scouting network. It sounded like they were all over the place in scouting players and very thorough, whereas it felt like Peterson's network wasn't that way. It felt like Peterson relied a lot more on making a few phone calls to his buddies than in listening to his scouts.

They always say the first two rounds are typically calls made by the front office. The later rounds go to the scouts. Think our scouting department did a decent job in the late rounds, especially given that they were recruiting talent for flawed schemes. Scouting is a top down process. The better the vision is from the guys up top, the better our scouts are going to be at finding the right guys.

[Austin Ed]

If Reid and Dorsey think Geno isn't worth the #1 pick i'll trust them.

No! We have already been instructed by the CP football geniuses that it has to be Geno. Do NOT disrespect them!!

[O.city]

I'll bet the Eagles/Chiefs game is in prime time next year.

Is that in KC?

[okcchief]

What a great day!

[ClearmontChief]

Nope, at Philly. Dallas & Giants coming to Arrowhead.

[Mr_Tomahawk]

Is that in KC?

Stop it.

[O.city]

Stop it.

Sorry, another question, my bad.

[The Bad Guy]

While I hate *****, he ran a very good scouting network. It sounded like they were all over the place in scouting players and very thorough, whereas it felt like Peterson's network wasn't that way. It felt like Peterson relied a lot more on making a few phone calls to his buddies than in listening to his scouts.

They always say the first two rounds are typically calls made by the front office. The later rounds go to the scouts. Think our scouting department did a decent job in the late rounds, especially given that they were recruiting talent for flawed schemes. Scouting is a top down process. The better the vision is from the guys up top, the better our scouts are going to be at finding the right guys.

You think Peterson's scouts were limited, but Pioli's weren't?

Based on what? Our incredible late round drafting the last 4 years?

[MotherfuckerJones]

Don't sweat it man.

Goddamnit Athan go to bed and quit making shit up ROFL LMAO just kidding man

[petegz28]

If Reid and Dorsey think Geno isn't worth the #1 pick i'll trust them.

I'm with you and I have a strong feeling they are not going to spend a #1 on him. They might but I don't think they will.

[chiefzilla1501]

You're ****ing clueless.

The scouts job is to watch tape/go to games and evaluate talent. It's not to be a ****ing yes man.

The scout's job is to follow orders. The coach and GM dictate the scheme, and that creates the playbook that scouts have to follow. Their job is to go to games and evaluate talent BASED ON THE PLAYBOOK. They are told exactly what players they are supposed to find. From there, their evaluations trickle to the college scouting director, whose job is to listen to a gazillion scouting reports and sum up the bullet points concisely to the head personnel guy.

Don't blame the guys whose job is to pull together the reports. Blame the multiple levels of leaders above the scouts that are giving them crappy playbooks to follow and that don't do a good job of slotting for draft value. It's not the scout's job to fight with Pioli. That was Emery's job.

[DaneMcCloud]

While I hate *****, he ran a very good scouting network.

Bullshit.

I can't believe you're still touting that motherfucking piece of shit.

[DeezNutz]

The Chiefs couldn't and didn't draft for shit during *****'s tenure, yet our "scouting network" was strong?

Yeah, not buying this one single bit. ***** didn't know the first thing about scouting, acquiring, or developing talent. Biggest fraud in NFL history.

And I'd like to thank the mods for wiping his name from this board. The ***** filter is brilliant.

Mother**** you for all time, *****.

[DeezNutz]

The scout's job is to follow orders. The coach and GM dictate the scheme, and that creates the playbook that scouts have to follow. Their job is to go to games and evaluate talent BASED ON THE PLAYBOOK. They are told exactly what players they are supposed to find. From there, their evaluations trickle to the college scouting director, whose job is to listen to a gazillion scouting reports and sum up the bullet points concisely to the head personnel guy.

Don't blame the guys whose job is to pull together the reports. Blame the multiple levels of leaders above the scouts that are giving them crappy playbooks to follow and that don't do a good job of slotting for draft value. It's not the scout's job to fight with *****. That was Emery's job.

Link to prove that the various area scouts were producing high-quality information?

[CoMoChief]

great hire

[The Bad Guy]

Bullshit.

I can't believe you're still touting that mother****ing piece of shit.

The takes are just incredible.

It's like he lives in another football universe.

The depth on this team sucks, but the scouts were good?

Get fucking lost.

[MotherfuckerJones]

Bullshit.

I can't believe you're still touting that mother****ing piece of shit.

LMAO how did he have a good network? All his picks suck except his OLB Houston. Egoli can go get hit by a fucking train and i wouldnt give 2 dicks

[Mr_Tomahawk]

While I hate *****, he ran a very good scouting network.

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[Titty Meat]

Sorry, another question, my bad.

Quit apologizing dude lol

[Brock]

zilla zillaing it up again.

[MotherfuckerJones]

FYI Scott COULDNT have listened to scouts. His ego wouldnt allow it. He hired Yes men

[The Bad Guy]

The scout's job is to follow orders. The coach and GM dictate the scheme, and that creates the playbook that scouts have to follow. Their job is to go to games and evaluate talent BASED ON THE PLAYBOOK. They are told exactly what players they are supposed to find. From there, their evaluations trickle to the college scouting director, whose job is to listen to a gazillion scouting reports and sum up the bullet points concisely to the head personnel guy.

Don't blame the guys whose job is to pull together the reports. Blame the multiple levels of leaders above the scouts that are giving them crappy playbooks to follow and that don't do a good job of slotting for draft value. It's not the scout's job to fight with *****. That was Emery's job.

Why are scouts fighing with anyone? They are information feeders. They write their reports based on their evaluations.

Good fucking christ.

[The Bad Guy]

zilla zillaing it up again.

No shit.

No one hijacks a thread with awful football takes like this clown.

[chiefzilla1501]

You think Peterson's scouts were limited, but *****'s weren't?

Based on what? Our incredible late round drafting the last 4 years?

Peterson had a reputation for pulling a lot of players from his network. Even in the late rounds. Made a ton of picks from the Pac 10.

Pioli made the picks based on scouting intelligence. I am convinced he gave his scouts a shitty playbook to follow. How many better picks would we have made if we were recruiting 1-gap players? What about the year Pioli demanded that his scouts pull only captains? Do you blame the scouts for the decision to never take a QB? And Pioli was the stubborn piece of shit that always tried to prove he could field a team with support players. Which is why he reached for so many players.

I wouldn't blame Pioli's shitty draft philosophy on the scouts. I don't know what kind of world people think the football world is where a scout would have anywhere near the power to argue against Pioli.

[chiefzilla1501]

Bullshit.

I can't believe you're still touting that mother****ing piece of shit.

Only you would take anything I'm saying about Pioli right now as any kind of compliment.

[chiefzilla1501]

Why are scouts fighing with anyone? They are information feeders. They write their reports based on their evaluations.

Good ****ing christ.

So why are you trying to argue that they were "yes men" as if that's a bad thing? I am saying it's their job to follow orders and to get guys their leaders are asking for.

[ChiefRocka]

Black Boobing

[The Bad Guy]

So why are you trying to argue that they were "yes men" as if that's a bad thing? I am saying it's their job to follow orders and to get guys their leaders are asking for.

You were arguing that we really don't know what we have with them because they had to take orders with Pioli.

I'm saying the scouts Pioli had blew and blew hard.

[chiefzilla1501]

The Chiefs couldn't and didn't draft for shit during *****'s tenure, yet our "scouting network" was strong?

Yeah, not buying this one single bit. ***** didn't know the first thing about scouting, acquiring, or developing talent. Biggest fraud in NFL history.

And I'd like to thank the mods for wiping his name from this board. The ***** filter is brilliant.

Mother**** you for all time, *****.

Pioli runs a very effective, efficient scouting network. He did in New England. He did in Kansas City. If you followed where our scouts were, you'll see that they went to a ton of games. And you hear reports about scouts talking to people as deep into the college as the equipment manager to get a sense for a player's character. That's why I'm not convinced our scouts are the problem.

The problem was the unbelievably shitty decisions Pioli made in dictating horrible schemes. And then using ego to drive his draft strategy. Just because Pioli made dumb picks, doesn't mean that he was fed bad information.

[Hammock Parties]

1-gap 3-4?

[Brock]

***** runs a very effective, efficient scouting network. He did in New England. He did in Kansas City. If you followed where our scouts were, you'll see that they went to a ton of games. And you hear reports about scouts talking to people as deep into the college as the equipment manager to get a sense for a player's character. That's why I'm not convinced our scouts are the problem.

The problem was the unbelievably shitty decisions ***** made in dictating horrible schemes. And then using ego to drive his draft strategy. Just because ***** made dumb picks, doesn't mean that he was fed bad information.

I don't see any evidence supporting your assertions. And I mean none.

[BigRedChief]

Hope is restored!
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[DeezNutz]

***** runs a very effective, efficient scouting network. He did in New England. He did in Kansas City. If you followed where our scouts were, you'll see that they went to a ton of games. And you hear reports about scouts talking to people as deep into the college as the equipment manager to get a sense for a player's character. That's why I'm not convinced our scouts are the problem.

The problem was the unbelievably shitty decisions ***** made in dictating horrible schemes. And then using ego to drive his draft strategy. Just because ***** made dumb picks, doesn't mean that he was fed bad information.

We don't know what ***** did in NE, but his time in KC strongly suggests that he did very, very little of consequence.

Given *****'s propensity to focus on all of the wrong things, it makes sense that he'd have his scouts talking to equipment managers rather than looking at tape and evaluating if the player can actually...wait for it...play at a high level. All the while disregarding some of the most obvious and damning evidence that can be presented (evidence A: Brokaki).

***** was a ****ing fool, and there is nothing but weak speculation to try to claim that his scouting network was any less foolish. There is, however, plenty of empirical evidence to prove that everything ***** tried to do was a mistake, so I'll continue to put my faith in what we definitively know.

[Easy 6]

This new dynamic is wasting NO time, head coach wrapped up far before anyone else, general manager wrapped up way early...

The speed with which change has taken place is heartwarming, Clark has once again shown he definitely has the stones to swing for the fences... "one supposedly brilliant mind couldnt get it done, well then this time i'll get TWO"

THIS can potentially build the Pittsburgh West kind of team that Clark and most everyone else envisioned ***** accomplishing... btw, his "scouting" was pure garbage.

/swoons for the excitement of 2013

[PhillyChiefFan]

Excellent. Onward to Geno!

[SAUTO]

Who gives a fuck how spread out the scouts were.if they were idiots like Pioli they didn't know what to look for.

We don't know they aren't idiots. Fuck them
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[mnchiefsguy]

Press Conference is set for 2pm on Monday, per kcchiefs.com

[Titty Meat]

We don't know what ***** did in NE, but his time in KC strongly suggests that he did very, very little of consequence.

Given *****'s propensity to focus on all of the wrong things, it makes sense that he'd have his scouts talking to equipment managers rather than looking at tape and evaluating if the player can actually...wait for it...play at a high level. All the while disregarding some of the most obvious and damning evidence that can be presented (evidence A: Brokaki).

***** was a ****ing fool, and there is nothing but weak speculation to try to claim that his scouting network was any less foolish. There is, however, plenty of empirical evidence to prove that everything ***** tried to do was a mistake, so I'll continue to put my faith in what we definitively know.

Let's hope it's different with Dorsey.

[BigMeatballDave]

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[chiefzilla1501]

We don't know what ***** did in NE, but his time in KC strongly suggests that he did very, very little of consequence.

Given *****'s propensity to focus on all of the wrong things, it makes sense that he'd have his scouts talking to equipment managers rather than looking at tape and evaluating if the player can actually...wait for it...play at a high level. All the while disregarding some of the most obvious and damning evidence that can be presented (evidence A: Brokaki).

***** was a ****ing fool, and there is nothing but weak speculation to try to claim that his scouting network was any less foolish. There is, however, plenty of empirical evidence that everything ***** tried to do was a mistake, so I'll continue to put my faith in what we definitively know.

Brokaki is a classic example of what I'm trying to say. Do you think Brokaki was picked because the scouts were gushing about him? Or do you think that pick was made because of Ferentz, because of Pioli's obsession with finding his version of Daniel Graham, and because of Pioli's "playbook" decision to draft only captains with high character?

Look, I get what you're saying on the second point. I am not saying we know we have outstanding scouts. I am saying we don't know what we have because we had a leader who was making terrible decisions with the information he got. There is a ton of proof that Pioli made a lot of terrible decisions that had nothing to do with getting bad information. There is little proof of knowing whether it was Pioli making bad decisions with bad information, or making bad decisions with good information. I think the scouts deserve at least some benefit of the doubt that it was maybe the latter, given what we know about Pioli.

[SAUTO]

Brokaki is a classic example of what I'm trying to say. Do you think Brokaki was picked because the scouts were gushing about him? Or do you think that pick was made because of Ferentz, because of Pioli's obsession with finding his version of Daniel Graham, and because of Pioli's "playbook" decision to draft only captains with high character?

Look, I get what you're saying on the second point. I am not saying we know we have outstanding scouts. I am saying we don't know what we have because we had a leader who was making terrible decisions with the information he got. There is a ton of proof that Pioli made a lot of terrible decisions that had nothing to do with getting bad information. There is little proof of knowing whether it was Pioli making bad decisions with bad information, or making bad decisions with good information. I think the scouts deserve at least some benefit of the doubt that it was maybe the latter, given what we know about Pioli. Pioli hired the scouts.


Enough said.
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[BigMeatballDave]

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[DeezNutz]

Brokaki is a classic example of what I'm trying to say. Do you think Brokaki was picked because the scouts were gushing about him? Or do you think that pick was made because of Ferentz, because of *****'s obsession with finding his version of Daniel Graham, and because of *****'s "playbook" decision to draft only captains with high character?

Look, I get what you're saying on the second point. I am not saying we know we have outstanding scouts. I am saying we don't know what we have because we had a leader who was making terrible decisions with the information he got. There is a ton of proof that ***** made a lot of terrible decisions that had nothing to do with getting bad information. There is little proof of knowing whether it was ***** making bad decisions with bad information, or making bad decisions with good information. I think the scouts deserve at least some benefit of the doubt that it was maybe the latter, given what we know about *****.

I'm fine with giving them the benefit of the doubt and the opportunity for a fair and thorough evaluation by a competent NFL man in Reid.

But I'm fairly confident in saying that everything about the fundamental organization of the franchise, from upper-management to the scouting network, under Pioli was about as fucked up as it could be.

I highly doubt that man successfully hits the toilet on most days. Thus, since epic failure assembled our scouts and they were hand-picked by him, I'm equally confident in saying that they probably need to be flushed.

It's just really hard to understate how badly Pioli executed his job.

[tredadda]

Who knows in five years whether Reid and Dorsey will be wise hirings, but one thing for sure as of right now they are the top HC and GM on the market and we got them both. Big, big win for the Chiefs and Clark Hunt. Hopefully the Clark does not care about winning talk will die down for good.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

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Smmmmmmmmmmmoooooooooooooookin!!!!

[Messier]

Brokaki is a classic example of what I'm trying to say. Do you think Brokaki was picked because the scouts were gushing about him? Or do you think that pick was made because of Ferentz, because of *****'s obsession with finding his version of Daniel Graham, and because of *****'s "playbook" decision to draft only captains with high character?

Look, I get what you're saying on the second point. I am not saying we know we have outstanding scouts. I am saying we don't know what we have because we had a leader who was making terrible decisions with the information he got. There is a ton of proof that ***** made a lot of terrible decisions that had nothing to do with getting bad information. There is little proof of knowing whether it was ***** making bad decisions with bad information, or making bad decisions with good information. I think the scouts deserve at least some benefit of the doubt that it was maybe the latter, given what we know about *****.

I don't have a problem with the Moeaki pick. He's talented, he's just injury prone. lots of players get drafted later than they should because of injuries, you just hope they get over it, and a lot do. TM hasn't been able to shake the injuries, but I have no problem with him as a player or the pick. I do have a big problem with the 1st nd 2nd round picks that have been wasted under Pioli.

[chiefzilla1501]

***** hired the scouts.


Enough said.
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The regional and national scouting guys are Patriots guys. I'm not opposed to getting rid of these guys but again... we can't forget that they are in an unfair position of providing information to a guy who was incompetent at knowing what to do with it.

The area scouts... two of them were Chiefs guys and two of them were non-tree hires. Think it's a little ridiculous to suggest these guys' jobs were on the line for following orders.

[milkman]

I don't have a problem with the Moeaki pick. He's talented, he's just injury prone. lots of players get drafted later than they should because of injuries, you just hope they get over it, and a lot do. TM hasn't been able to shake the injuries, but I have no problem with him as a player or the pick. I do have a big problem with the 1st nd 2nd round picks that have been wasted under *****.

The Chiefs traded up to select Moeaki while Jimmy Graham and Aaron Hernandez were still on the board.

It was a stpid pick, made even more stupid by the fact that he did trade up to make it.

[Hammock Parties]

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[DeezNutz]

I don't have a problem with the Moeaki pick. He's talented, he's just injury prone. lots of players get drafted later than they should because of injuries, you just hope they get over it, and a lot do. TM hasn't been able to shake the injuries, but I have no problem with him as a player or the pick. I do have a big problem with the 1st nd 2nd round picks that have been wasted under *****.

The Brokaki pick, in a vacuum, is somewhat understandable. However, when Jimmy Graham goes two picks later and you're the highest paid GM in the league, the selection becomes the most pointed evidence of your incompetence and nepotism.

[Hammock Parties]

The Brokaki pick, in a vacuum, is somewhat understandable. However, when Jimmy Graham goes two picks later and you're the highest paid GM in the league, the selection becomes the most pointed evidence of your incompetence and nepotism.

And when it occurs in the same draft where you passed on Gronkowski for McCluster, maybe you should just go the fuck back where you came from, you fucking cocksucker.

[chiefzilla1501]

I don't have a problem with the Moeaki pick. He's talented, he's just injury prone. lots of players get drafted later than they should because of injuries, you just hope they get over it, and a lot do. TM hasn't been able to shake the injuries, but I have no problem with him as a player or the pick. I do have a big problem with the 1st nd 2nd round picks that have been wasted under *****.

The big point I'm trying to make is... do you blame the scouts for making this pick? Because I'm sure Pioli made this pick armed with clear information about Moeaki's injury history, but he made the pick anyway. So again... was Pioli given bad information from the scouts? Or was he making horrendous decisions off of good information?

I'll compare this to a business. I've seen brilliant researchers who feed reports to VPs who make shitty decisions with good information. It would be foolish to fire your entire research department. Many of those guys' information will turn out to be great if they handed it off to a VP who knew what to do with it.

[milkman]

The big point I'm trying to make is... do you blame the scouts for making this pick? Because I'm sure ***** made this pick armed with clear information about Moeaki's injury history, but he made the pick anyway. So again... was ***** given bad information from the scouts? Or was he making horrendous decisions off of good information?

I'll compare this to a business. I've seen brilliant researchers who feed reports to VPs who make shitty decisions with good information. It would be foolish to fire your entire research department. Many of those guys' information will turn out to be great if they handed it off to a VP who knew what to do with it.


Seriously, at the end of the fucking day, who gives a rat's ass.

Just shut the fuck up, you useless dumbass.

[DeezNutz]

And when it occurs in the same draft where you passed on Gronkowski for McCluster, maybe you should just go the **** back where you came from, you ****ing one who sucks the penis.

<clapping>

No idea why there hasn't been a public apology thread from those who lectured us about this worthless motherfucker. He ended up fitting them for the most colorful clown suit in history.

[KChiefs1]

Adam Caplan ‏@caplannfl

John Dorsey will be introduced as the Chiefs GM on Monday at 2 p.m. CST.

How long before Matt Flynn is announced as the Chiefs QB?

[Window Licking Whiner]

This is great news. Got to give it to hunt, in the lowest point that I've seen in the fan base, he has found a way to reinvigorate us. Go Chiefs!

[RealSNR]

Geno Smith

[SAUTO]

The big point I'm trying to make is... do you blame the scouts for making this pick? Because I'm sure Pioli made this pick armed with clear information about Moeaki's injury history, but he made the pick anyway. So again... was Pioli given bad information from the scouts? Or was he making horrendous decisions off of good information?

I'll compare this to a business. I've seen brilliant researchers who feed reports to VPs who make shitty decisions with good information. It would be foolish to fire your entire research department. Many of those guys' information will turn out to be great if they handed it off to a VP who knew what to do with it.
Or did the scouts claim the skills were enough that the injury history would be worth the risk
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[The Bad Guy]

The Chiefs traded up to select Moeaki while Jimmy Graham and Aaron Hernandez were still on the board.

It was a stpid pick, made even more stupid by the fact that he did trade up to make it.

You can't use the he's talented but hurt as defense for the pick when the guy couldn't stay healthy in college. It was an awful pick when you factor in the history, the cost and the players on the board.

[chiefzilla1501]

Or did the scouts claim the skills were enough that the injury history would be worth the risk
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Given the Ferentz connection and Pioli's boner for finding Patriot Way players, which includes a TE who can block/catch and play in 2 TE sets, I'm going to chalk this up as a clear Pioli pick.

[The Bad Guy]

Just wait until the McFuckster lovers compare him to Randall Cobb.

[KChiefs1]

This new dynamic is wasting NO time, head coach wrapped up far before anyone else, general manager wrapped up way early...

The speed with which change has taken place is heartwarming, Clark has once again shown he definitely has the stones to swing for the fences... "one supposedly brilliant mind couldnt get it done, well then this time i'll get TWO"

THIS can potentially build the Pittsburgh West kind of team that Clark and most everyone else envisioned ***** accomplishing... btw, his "scouting" was pure garbage.

/swoons for the excitement of 2013


It's more the Packer model they are working for.

[MotherfuckerJones]

You can't use the he's talented but hurt as defense for the pick when the guy couldn't stay healthy in college. It was an awful pick when you factor in the history, the cost and the players on the board.

Another arrogant jackass pick and not listening to scouts im sure. Pick one of my guys players and outsmart people hahaha NOPE! 3 TEs are better that were picked after

[milkman]

You, zilla, are the kind of guy, that if someone bakes a cake, then frosts it with mud, you scrape the mud off the top and eat the cake, right?

[BullJunkandIron]

Give ****** some credit he got this culture of excellence rolling.

[Saccopoo]

I don't have a problem with the Moeaki pick. He's talented, he's just injury prone. lots of players get drafted later than they should because of injuries, you just hope they get over it, and a lot do. TM hasn't been able to shake the injuries, but I have no problem with him as a player or the pick. I do have a big problem with the 1st nd 2nd round picks that have been wasted under *****.

The problem with the Moeaki pick was that Pioli traded up eight spots to get him while Dennis Pitta (who looked great tonight against the Doncos), Aaron Hernandez AND Moeaki were still on the board. One of those guys was going to be available without the trade up.

And that was the second time he cost us picks in moving up for a tight end.

Pioli was a fucking moron.

[aturnis]

"@kcmetrosports: Metro Sports Zone with @bradkporter is coming up at 10pm. Hear from the New #Chiefs GM and if he feels ready. CH30/1310HD on TWC"

Someone capture/record it...

Don't care if it's a repost.

[chiefzilla1501]

You, zilla, are the kind of guy, that if someone bakes a cake, then frosts it with mud, you scrape the mud off the top and eat the cake, right?

I am the type of person who asks... if the baker made a good cake, and ***** added mud frost at the end, I'm not going to fire the baker for *****'s stupid decision.

I've been very consistent about not scapegoating. You know I took a lot of shit for crediting Herm with bold personnel moves. And I know you agree with me on the point that Haley was never allowed to develop into a coach he could have been, and maybe there was upside in him. In both cases... I said Pioli and Carl were the cancers. Same deal... just because ***** was a trainwreck, think it's reckless for us to assume every single person in this organization was incompetent. There's probably a lot of very, very good people that would thrive under the right leadership.

[The Bad Guy]

Apparently Metro Sports is going to have an interview with Dorsey on tonight. I don't live in KC, can someone pull that video?

[DeezNutz]

I am the type of person who asks... if the baker made a good cake, and ***** added mud frost at the end, I'm not going to fire the baker for *****'s stupid decision.

I've been very consistent about not scapegoating. You know I took a lot of shit for crediting Herm with bold personnel moves. And I know you agree with me on the point that Haley was never allowed to develop into a coach he could have been, and maybe there was upside in him. In both cases... I said ***** and Carl were the cancers. Same deal... just because ***** was a trainwreck, think it's reckless for us to assume every single person in this organization was incompetent. There's probably a lot of very, very good people that would thrive under the right leadership.

If someone is dumb enough to frost a cake with mud, you'll excuse our skepticism in this dumb fuck's acumen in selecting a baker.

My guess is that in trying to find the baker, he ended up at a whore house, where he paid $75 dollars for a bag of brownie mix and never got the happy ending because the cops showed up.

[Hammock Parties]

Apparently Metro Sports is going to have an interview with Dorsey on tonight. I don't live in KC, can someone pull that video?

I'll do it.

Someone ping me when it's on.

[MotherfuckerJones]

I wana see it. Damn South Carolina lol

[The Bad Guy]

I'll do it.

Someone ping me when it's on.

I have no idea when it's on. I'd just record the whole damn episode.

Thanks man.

[Hammock Parties]

Ah, if that's not a regular cable channel I can't get it.

Basic cable or broadcast only.

[The Bad Guy]

If someone is dumb enough to frost a cake with mud, you'll excuse our skepticism in this dumb ****'s acumen in selecting a baker.

My guess is that in trying to find the baker, he ended up at a whore house, where he paid $75 dollars for a bag of brownie mix and never got the happy ending because the cops showed up.

Game. Set. Match.

Zilla clowned again.

[FloridaMan88]

Great, great, great hire.

This is the most excited I have been since Dick Vermeil retired.

[MotherfuckerJones]

Man what a day. What a motherfucking day. Worked all day. Came home to watch the Donks lose THEN see this? WOW! Time to get to work KCCHIEFS

[The Bad Guy]

Great, great, great hire.

This is the most excited I have been since Dick Vermeil retired.

I can't believe he turned down the Colts last year.

Guy is respected by everyone in the entire league. Every writer loves him.

[HC_Chief]

I like the hire.
MAJOR props to Clark Hunt. :thumb:

[chiefzilla1501]

Game. Set. Match.

Zilla clowned again.

How did I get clowned? Because you agree with his opinion? We're both giving opinions, not facts. Nobody's getting clowned here. I've seen it too many times in a business setting where good people are set up to fail by poor leadership. That's where I stand on this. I'm sure some of those guys are incompetent. I also have to think there are very good scouts who would thrive with better direction from the top down. I think we're being too hasty in assuming everyone's a problem.

[MotherfuckerJones]

Clark man your wife needs to blow you ROFL! Wish I could send him some strippers and cocaine

[Hammock Parties]

We basically stole an elite team's GM.

Pretty fucking awesome.

[Titty Meat]

Im happy with this hire but ill be honest I find it hard to get excited. The last few seasons has drained me.

[Rams Fan]

We basically stole an elite team's GM.

Pretty ****ing awesome.

Were you like this 4 years ago?

[milkman]

Great, great, great hire.

This is the most excited I have been since Dick Vermeil retired.

I was excited when Vermeil retired, too.

[DaWolf]

I can't believe he turned down the Colts last year.

Guy is respected by everyone in the entire league. Every writer loves him.

It is amazing. I haven't heard one person say anything bad about him. Even with Pioli amidst the excitement some people were saying that Belichick was the real brains there. All I've been hearing about Dorsey is that there is no doubt this guy will be a success...

[The Bad Guy]

Im happy with this hire but ill be honest I find it hard to get excited. The last few seasons has drained me.

You should be thrilled.

I was at my lowest point as a fan when all that shit came out the Sunday of the Broncos game that Pioli was staying.

This has revived me and given me an incredible dose of hope.

Not only are the guys they hired talented, they are likable and I think they are going to do everything they can to get fans back.

It's an exciting time and I'm not going to let the stink of the fucking trio of losers that has paraded around here the last 4 years ruin this one me.

We have the #1 pick, we have competent people in place now and a proven HC.

[Hammock Parties]

Were you like this 4 years ago?

I was very excited, yes.

This feels different though.

[The Bad Guy]

I was very excited, yes.

This feels different though.

It does. I agree.

There's no bravado. There's no secrecy.

Reid seems genuinely happy to be here. People say the nicest things about Dorsey.

[chiefzilla1501]

Im happy with this hire but ill be honest I find it hard to get excited. The last few seasons has drained me.

Reid's media blitz shows we're lifting the stupid media blackout.

Hiring Sutton shows both our HC and GM are comfortable running a scheme they don't know.

After years of Pioli's arrogance in doing things his way... how refreshing is it that Reid was given personnel power, but he still goes out and recruits a guy who is going to undermine his power? For the first time in years, I think we'll have a tremendous balance between coach and front office.

A lot to be really excited about. Forget that Dorsey's track record is brilliant. Those things above are really great signs that the culture is completely changing.

[FloridaMan88]

Were you like this 4 years ago?

Dorsey was Green Bay's Director of Scouting for 14 years... he was directly involved in their drafts the past 14 years.

Fat Scott was a Player Personnel guy in New England... a less direct role in the scouting of college players.

If you are looking for someone from the Belichick tree to compare Dorsey to, compare him to Thomas Dimitroff... he was the same position. Dimitroff has turned out pretty well in Atlanta.

You are a Lambs fan so I wouldn't expect you to comprehend such a nuanced concept as the difference in hiring Fat Scott vs Dorsey.

[Titty Meat]

You should be thrilled.

I was at my lowest point as a fan when all that shit came out the Sunday of the Broncos game that Pioli was staying.

This has revived me and given me an incredible dose of hope.

Not only are the guys they hired talented, they are likable and I think they are going to do everything they can to get fans back.

It's an exciting time and I'm not going to let the stink of the fucking trio of losers that has paraded around here the last 4 years ruin this one me.

We have the #1 pick, we have competent people in place now and a proven HC.

As strange as it sounds that sunday/monday when it was announced Pioli wasnt fired I gave up. I was done with this team altogether.

Youre right though it does seem like these guys want to be here and Clark not dragging his feet has been wonderful.

Im sure ill get excited once free agency starts or when gutless fucking pussies like lewis, cassel, jackson, etc are released.

[FloridaMan88]

I was excited when Vermeil retired, too.

You can burn your Herm Edwards blow up doll now.

[The Bad Guy]

I think Lewis will probably be kept for depth, but really he should have no place on this 53.

I'll be happy when we don't overspend to get a 5 tech again.

[DeezNutz]

It does. I agree.

There's no bravado. There's no secrecy.

Reid seems genuinely happy to be here. People say the nicest things about Dorsey.

These guys are coming here to win, not to prove themselves and/or make a name for themselves.

Polar opposite to fucking Pioli.

I feel like we actually have a chance to build something here. But an awful lot depends upon this coming draft. Can't stress this enough.

[MotherfuckerJones]

I think Lewis will probably be kept for depth, but really he should have no place on this 53.

I'll be happy when we don't overspend to get a 5 tech again.

Man if Pioli was staying I was giving up. Glad that fraud is gone. Kendrick lewis?

[Hammock Parties]

The excitement around Pioli was just:

1. We fired Carl.

2. We replaced him with someone who seems smart.

This is different.

We know these guys know how to win. 100 percent. This isn't a "potential" home run.

Clark hit a home run. Now it's just a question of is it a solo shot or a grand slam.

[chiefzilla1501]

The excitement around ***** was just:

1. We fired Carl.

2. We replaced him with someone who seems smart.

This is different.

We know these guys know how to win. 100 percent. This isn't a "potential" home run.

Clark hit a home run. Now it's just a question of is it a solo shot or a grand slam.

What's interesting is that even early Pioli ballwashers like myself (embarrasingly, admittingly) hated a lot of his early decisions. But we supported Pioli out of faith that he knew what he was doing.

This isn't the same. Reid is making a lot of really good moves that fit what we want. The only move we're sort of neutral about is the Sutton hire, but there's potential for that to be a good hire too.

[milkman]

You can burn your Herm Edwards blow up doll now.

Why is it so difficult for you to understand that I hated Herman fucking Edwards even more than I hated Dick?

The fact that Dick accomplished jack, and you are still hanging on his nutsack just further confirms the idiocy that you possess.

The fact that you can not read and understand the written word is even further proof.

[MotherfuckerJones]

The excitement around ***** was just:

1. We fired Carl.

2. We replaced him with someone who seems smart.

This is different.

We know these guys know how to win. 100 percent. This isn't a "potential" home run.

Clark hit a home run. Now it's just a question of is it a solo shot or a grand slam.

Kudos! These guys as Andy says" Check their EGOs at the door". Take notes Egoli. They will get this done. Will we win a Super Bowl? Probably not with Manning and Brady in the way. Flacco is coming into his own too. Will we win a playoff game? no doubt!

[Ultra Peanut]

I honestly thought the Chiefs were finally as emotionally dead to me as the Cubs. Now I have the slightest bit of hope that this team will actually be fun to follow again.

[MotherfuckerJones]

Why is it so difficult for you to understand that I hated Herman ****ing Edwards even more than I hated Dick?

The fact that Dick accomplished jack, and you are still hanging on his nutsack just further confirms the idiocy that you possess.

The fact that you can not read and understand the written word is even further proof.

Atleast Dick didnt make a fucking mockery of the Chiefs like Pioli

[chiefzilla1501]

Atleast Dick didnt make a ****ing mockery of the Chiefs like *****

Dick Vermeil fucked this defense because he was loyal to Greg Robinson. And he and Peterson were in cahoots on a grand scheme to jam a bunch of old expensive cap heavy players even though we knew it would fuck over the team after Vermeil left.

He didn't make a mockery of the team. But that many years and only one playoff berth... that's adding to the mockery that this team still couldn't win the big games.

[MotherfuckerJones]

Dick Vermeil ****ed this defense because he was loyal to Greg Robinson. And he and Peterson were in cahoots on a grand scheme to jam a bunch of old expensive cap heavy players even though we knew it would **** over the team after Vermeil left.

He didn't make a mockery of the team. But that many years and only one playoff berth... that's adding to the mockery that this team still couldn't win the big games.

Still didnt win only 2 fucking games. Ya they made some dumb decisions but alteast we werent embarrassing. Carl shouldve drafted better defensive players. I dont care. They put all their chips in and went for it. It didnt work. It was a 5 year plan. Most teams have to rebuild

[chiefzilla1501]

Still didnt win only 2 ****ing games. Ya they made some dumb decisions but alteast we werent embarrassing. Carl shouldve drafted better defensive players. I dont care. They put all their chips in and went for it. It didnt work. It was a 5 year plan. Most teams have to rebuild

Late era Peterson and Pioli were both shitty. It's not an either/or. Yeah, Pioli was worse, but that doesn't change that Peterson was really bad.

[Cosmos]

I would imagine Dorsey will start lining up his staff of college scouts, cap guy, director of pro personnel/college scouting over the next 2-3 weeks.

Some guys may stay, but not many.

Are you hearing if he will be able to bring some GB staff with him?

That would be nice.

Get off to a running start.

[MotherfuckerJones]

Late era Peterson and ***** were both shitty. It's not an either/or. Yeah, ***** was worse, but that doesn't change that Peterson was really bad.

Because they were rebuilding. It was expected. Atleast they could score fucking points and not be anemic like this team! Peterson was really bad i didnt say he wasnt man. Just saying I like Dick Vermeil. He wasnt supposed to be here forever. He was up their in age and it was a 5 year plan. I respect it.

[The Bad Guy]

Are you hearing if he will be able to bring some GB staff with him?

That would be nice.

Get off to a running start.

Green Bay basically has a policy that you can leave, but you can't take anyone with you.

They did that to Philbin last year.

[In58men]

Green Bay basically has a policy that you can leave, but you can't take anyone with you.

They did that to Philbin last year.

And Reggie McKenzie

[MOhillbilly]

Build a team, make a run. I don't care if its Alfred e Newman. This is what I want.

[Sorter]

Build a team, make a run. I don't care if its Alfred e Newman. This is what I want.

Exceptionally specific.

[CosmicPal]

Hot diggity! This is shaping up to be the best offseason in a very long time!

[FloridaMan88]

Why is it so difficult for you to understand that I hated Herman ****ing Edwards even more than I hated Dick?

The fact that Dick accomplished jack, and you are still hanging on his nutsack just further confirms the idiocy that you possess.

The fact that you can not read and understand the written word is even further proof.

Your hatred for Dick Vermeil is delusional.

But given the fact you were advocating for a career journeyman coordinator/CFL coach to get strong consideration as the Chiefs next HC before Reid was hired shows your current mental state.

You are an old piece of shit.

Your old disgusting rotting body and hardening arteries are polluting coherent thought on this message board.

Kill yourself already.

[MotherfuckerJones]

Best HC on the market, best personnel man on the market. Got both. Clark is batting to perfection. Now lets see how these QBs do in senior bowl, combine and pro days

[MotherfuckerJones]

Your hatred for Dick Vermeil is delusional.

But given the fact you were advocating for a career journeyman coordinator/CFL coach to get strong consideration as the Chiefs next HC before Reid was hired shows your current mental state.

You are an old piece of shit.

Your old disgusting rotting body and hardening arteries are polluting coherent thought on this message board.

Kill yourself already. Except this lol comon man really?

ROFL

[milkman]

Your hatred for Dick Vermeil is delusional.

But given the fact you were advocating for a career journeyman coordinator/CFL coach to get strong consideration as the Chiefs next HC before Reid was hired shows your current mental state.

You are an old piece of shit.

Your old disgusting rotting body and hardening arteries are polluting coherent thought on this message board.

Kill yourself already.

I am sorry that you are too stupid to think outside the box.

[chiefzilla1501]

Are you hearing if he will be able to bring some GB staff with him?

That would be nice.

Get off to a running start.

Based on what we see in many new regimes, many of the area scouts could stay in place. The regional / national scouts will probably be put on notice, and there's probably no shortage of quality scouts looking for a promotion or experienced personnel guys who are looking for work after losing their job from a previous regime. This will be much easier than hiring an assistant. A lot of talent to pluck from.

[BossChief]

I'm thoroughly convinced we will take Geno Smith with the top pick to finish off the trifecta of awesome moves.

1) He is similar in many ways to Aaron Rodgers and Donovan McNabb...the two chosen quarterbacks of Dorsey and Reid.

2) Andy Reid is a pass first coach and we have no quarterback that can fit his requirements as a passing team.

3) Guys like Andy Reid and John Dorsey don't come to a team like KC and turn down other offers unless they think they can win here. Beings that both guys understand the vast importance of QB in todays NFL...neither came here to trade for a guy like Alex Smith.

4) Clark went out and got the top QB coaches available...he wants a QB.

[RealSNR]

Chiefzilla, I like you a lot but why is it whenever I see you post stuff it's about fucking bullshit that doesn't matter like Todd Haley or Pioli's scouts?

Your talents could be put to far better use.

[DaneMcCloud]

Your talents could be put to far better use.

After more than four years of reading his verbose fucking bullshit, I strongly disagree.

[AussieChiefsFan]

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ma9rjuucBD1rfqoi2o1_400.gif

[milkman]

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ma9rjuucBD1rfqoi2o1_400.gif

You might want to caption that.

John_Wayne thinks that is Geno Smith.

[Sorter]

I don't know how much he was involved with individually, but the draft picks/pickups at WR (Cobb, Jones, etc) and at DB (Burnett, Shields, Williams) are definitely awesome.

[Sorter]

You might want to caption that.

John_Wayne thinks that is Geno Smith.

ROFL

[DaneMcCloud]

I don't know how much he was involved with individually, but the draft picks/pickups at WR (Cobb, Jones, etc) and at DB (Burnett, Shields, Williams) are definitely awesome.

Moving into the first round to grab Matthews, after nabbing Raji in the Top Ten, was genius.