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Mr. Laz
01-27-2013, 03:49 PM
Report: Jake Long wants “at least” $10 million annually

Posted by Evan Silva on January 27, 2013, 4:37 PM EST

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Jake Long was once considered in many circles to be the best left tackle in football. His stock has fallen off dramatically due to myriad injuries and declining performance, and he’s slated to hit a deep free-agent market for offensive tackles this March.

Long’s monetary expectations remain high. Citing people who have spoken to the Dolphins’ front office, Barry Jackson of the Miami Herald reports Long is believed to be seeking “at least $10 million a year” and the Fins are “pessimistic” about their chances of retaining him.

Jackson adds that Long “scoffed” at the Dolphins’ in-season extension offer.

Long turns 28 in May and there are indications his body is breaking down, so we can’t fault him for pursuing every last dollar on his first ever opportunity to test free agency. With the way things have gone for him recently, this could conceivably be Long’s final substantial pay day the NFL.

He’s just probably not going to get it from the Dolphins.

DJ's left nut
01-27-2013, 03:51 PM
In what circle was Jake Long ever considered the best left tackle in football?

RealSNR
01-27-2013, 03:51 PM
Think he'd play guard for us?

Mr. Flopnuts
01-27-2013, 03:53 PM
I wonder what he's going to do for work that will pay him that.

mcaj22
01-27-2013, 03:54 PM
In what circle was Jake Long ever considered the best left tackle in football?

dont let that crazy Michigan homer on here read this.

AndChiefs
01-27-2013, 03:55 PM
I wonder what he's going to do for work that will pay him that.

Same thing Cassel's been doing for ***** the last few years?

Mr. Flopnuts
01-27-2013, 03:56 PM
Same thing Cassel's been doing for ***** the last few years?

Yeah, bad timing for Jake that Scooter is out of the league.

MotherfuckerJones
01-27-2013, 03:58 PM
Good he can get that somewhere else we got our Stud LT! Albert will be back

mcaj22
01-27-2013, 03:58 PM
Yeah, bad timing for Jake that Scooter is out of the league.


His equally stupid friend Michael Lombardi is about to ruin the Browns though

so theres that

SAUTO
01-27-2013, 03:59 PM
dont let that crazy Michigan homer on here read this.

I don't think he had said he is the best. Top five is what I remember
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tk13
01-27-2013, 03:59 PM
Sign him, move Albert to guard. Draft Joeckel at 1 and put him at RT to start... we will dominate!

keg in kc
01-27-2013, 03:59 PM
dont let that crazy Michigan homer on here read this.I don't think many of us Michigan homers thought he should've gone first. Or that he was ever the best.

Joe Thomas was a much better prospect.

htismaqe
01-27-2013, 04:00 PM
I'd gladly give him $10M per year just to never hear "Luke Joeckel" ever again.

BossChief
01-27-2013, 04:03 PM
In what circle was Jake Long ever considered the best left tackle in football?

He was the first team AP all pro in 2010 and second team all pro by the AP in 09.

mcaj22
01-27-2013, 04:03 PM
I don't think he had said he is the best. Top five is what I remember
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the argument was actually him saying not only was Jake Long significantly better than Brandon Albert, but we should give up a draft pick for him (3rd, 4th, 5th) and pay him whatever money he wants. And then claimed that Albert was maybe a top 15 LT at best.

dirk digler
01-27-2013, 04:04 PM
Sign him, move Albert to guard. Draft Joeckel at 1 and put him at RT to start... we will dominate!

and don't forget Cassel as the starter. PRINT EM

mcaj22
01-27-2013, 04:04 PM
He was the first team AP all pro in 2010 and second team all pro by the AP in 09.

and it is now the year 2013

the what have you done for me lately league.

and lately, Jake Long is on a downhill slope to overrated turdsville

Hammock Parties
01-27-2013, 04:11 PM
In what circle was Jake Long ever considered the best left tackle in football?

He was before he got hurt. Darn near, anyway.

Last two years he's been pretty average.

'Hamas' Jenkins
01-27-2013, 04:22 PM
In what circle was Jake Long ever considered the best left tackle in football?

The True Fan cul-de-sac, which is directly across from Fucktard Mountain.

DJ's left nut
01-27-2013, 04:22 PM
He was before he got hurt. Darn near, anyway.

Last two years he's been pretty average.

I'd have still said Thomas and (ugh) Clady were better than him; at least more versatile. Hell, Jason Peters would've been in that discussion as well; he was great when healthy.

I don't argue that he wasn't a very good tackle (he was). But the best? I can't see it.

'Hamas' Jenkins
01-27-2013, 04:23 PM
He was the first team AP all pro in 2010 and second team all pro by the AP in 09.

He was also overrated those years too. In one of them Peppers whipped his ass to a level rarely seen in the NFL. He had at least three sacks against him and multiple other pressures.

'Hamas' Jenkins
01-27-2013, 04:23 PM
I don't think many of us Michigan homers thought he should've gone first. Or that he was ever the best.

Joe Thomas was a much better prospect.

Austin Chief was very, very high on him.

Sfeihc
01-27-2013, 04:26 PM
This crazy Michigan homer never thought he was the best LT in football. We all know that Albert is........

Hammock Parties
01-27-2013, 04:27 PM
The True Fan cul-de-sac, which is directly across from Fucktard Mountain.

I know that place! It's just around the corner from Barry's Koolaid stand!

'Hamas' Jenkins
01-27-2013, 04:30 PM
I know that place! It's just around the corner from Fece's Koolaid stand!

That meth-teeth-having motherfucker deleted all my taunts from his YouTube video calling out SoC. I'm sure he's off somewhere hitting the light bulb right now. If we're lucky, he mishandled some anhydrous and it sucked all the moisture from his lungs leaving him a a suffocating, dessicated corpse next to some agricultural co-op.

BlackHelicopters
01-27-2013, 04:53 PM
People in hell want ice water, too.

Frankie
01-27-2013, 06:10 PM
Think he'd play guard for us?

His name is not Cassel or Quinn, so I'm pretty sure he can play QB for us.

AussieChiefsFan
01-27-2013, 06:11 PM
LMAO

Coach
01-27-2013, 06:15 PM
I'd pay Jake Long $1 to go the fuck away.

Setsuna
01-27-2013, 07:10 PM
Just move Pouncey to LT and release him. He's stupid.

HotCarl
01-27-2013, 07:21 PM
He got 5/$57 when he was drafted, so he is not really asking for a pay raise.

Besides, you can ask for whatever you want, but the market will only bear what it will bear. It's always a value for the cap dollar equation

Sorter
01-27-2013, 07:50 PM
Good luck with that Mr. Long.

Ace Gunner
01-27-2013, 08:29 PM
ROFL

MikeMaslowski
01-27-2013, 08:37 PM
Off topic a bit... My first radio DJ name was supposed to be Jake Long(now that I look at it I wasn't that creative) then I decided "Woody Long" would be nice but the station said they couldn't have a 15 yo kid on air with that name... +1 post count...got a lot of time to make up for.

AustinChief
01-27-2013, 08:51 PM
the argument was actually him saying not only was Jake Long significantly better than Brandon Albert, but we should give up a draft pick for him (3rd, 4th, 5th) and pay him whatever money he wants. And then claimed that Albert was maybe a top 15 LT at best.

No, if you're going to be a moron at least get the facts straight while doing so.

I said IF Albert wants more money than he is worth and we can't sign him, then we shouldn't draft a LT but should look at Jake Long since he IS an upgrade IF he is healthy (which is a huge if). Jake Long has (until this year with all the injuries) consistently been thought of as a top 5 LT by pretty much everyone in football.

And I have never said Albert is MAYBE a top 15 LT, I said he is definitely top 15 but NOT top 8. He simply isn't. No amount of kool aid will change that fact. That isn;t to say that he couldn't be, as Milkman has stated, Albert still has some upside while a guy like Long has topped out. I think he's right on that.

AustinChief
01-27-2013, 09:03 PM
And to be clear on this, I'd RATHER we just sign Albert to a reasonable contract. Which is what I think will happen.

Setsuna
01-27-2013, 09:19 PM
Now that I think about it, Bowe didn't even make that much. Long needs to STFU or GTFO. He probably hates Miami anyway since they aren't going anywhere.

1. Make an unreasonable demand.
2. Get traded to the Colts.
3. ????
4. Profit

BossChief
01-27-2013, 10:16 PM
I bet a handful of these free agents get straight up stupid deals from the teams that need to get to the cap floor.

AustinChief
01-27-2013, 11:26 PM
You guys do realize that the franchise tag for a LT is going to be around $15.5 million, right? IF Long is healthy, $10 million isn't that big of a reach at all.

BossChief
01-27-2013, 11:36 PM
You guys do realize that the franchise tag for a LT is going to be around $15.5 million, right? IF Long is healthy, $10 million isn't that big of a reach at all.

I've read it will be closer to 10...maybe even below it.

rocknrolla
01-27-2013, 11:48 PM
And to be clear on this, I'd RATHER we just sign Albert to a reasonable contract. Which is what I think will happen.

From all I have seen and read I believe it will happen. With Longs injuries this year, I see him sitting next to daddy in 5 years.

Strongside
01-27-2013, 11:50 PM
I want at least ten mil a year as well. Doesn't mean I get it.

AustinChief
01-27-2013, 11:59 PM
I've read it will be closer to 10...maybe even below it.

Where have you read that??? I have seen it as anywhere from 15.4 to 15.6 in literally dozens of places.

Setsuna
01-28-2013, 01:18 AM
Where have you read that??? I have seen it as anywhere from 15.4 to 15.6 in literally dozens of places.

There goes AC flying off the handle again. Hide yo wife, hide yo....:evil:

ncCHIEFfan
01-28-2013, 04:40 AM
From all I have seen and read I believe it will happen. With Longs injuries this year, I see him sitting next to daddy in 5 years.

Ummm...:doh!: you do know that Jake is not Howie's...Oh just forget it:spock:

RUSH
01-28-2013, 05:44 AM
Where have you read that??? I have seen it as anywhere from 15.4 to 15.6 in literally dozens of places.

CB: Franchise: $10.668 Transition: $8.939

DE: Franchise: $10.984 Transition: $8.994

DT: Franchise: $8.306 Transition: $6.919

K/P: Franchise: $2.926 Transition: $2.654

LB: Franchise: $9.455 Transition: $8.216

OL: Franchise: $9.660 Transition: $8.560

QB: Franchise: $14.642 Transition: $12.845

RB: Franchise: $8.079 Transition: $6.851

S: Franchise: $6.798 Transition: $5.899

TE: Franchise: $5.962 Transition: $5.105

WR: Franchise: $10.357 Transition: $8.716

http://m.nfl.com/news/0ap1000000117300/

CoMoChief
01-28-2013, 05:58 AM
Jake Long made Tamba Hali look stupid a couple years ago IIRC

AustinChief
01-28-2013, 06:17 AM
http://m.nfl.com/news/0ap1000000117300/

I was wrong. I was reading it in every article discussing specific LTs and what they would be owed if franchised and so I assumed that was the number. I was right that if Miami tags him he will get $15.4 million or so...

As for the franchise tag, the tender for an offensive lineman in 2012 was worth $9.383 million and will remain in that area as the salary cap is expected to remain flat in 2013. However, that won't matter for Long as his franchise tag would be worth $15.36 million, 120 percent his 2012 cap number of $12.8 million.

Mr_Tomahawk
01-28-2013, 07:03 AM
I'd gladly give him $10M per year just to never hear "Luke Joeckel" ever again.

this

htismaqe
01-28-2013, 10:50 AM
I was wrong. I was reading it in every article discussing specific LTs and what they would be owed if franchised and so I assumed that was the number. I was right that if Miami tags him he will get $15.4 million or so...

And BlackBob actually believed that we would TAG Albert and still draft Joeckel at #1 overall...

Amnorix
01-28-2013, 10:57 AM
His equally stupid friend Michael Lombardi is about to ruin the Browns though

so theres that


This raises an interesting philosophical question -- can you really "ruin" a team like the Browns, which have been a complete mess for over a decade now? There's really nowhere to go but up.

Fat Elvis
01-28-2013, 11:07 AM
This raises an interesting philosophical question -- can you really "ruin" a team like the Browns, which have been a complete mess for over a decade now? There's really nowhere to go but up.

...paging Scott Pioli...

Sorter
01-28-2013, 11:14 AM
This raises an interesting philosophical question -- can you really "ruin" a team like the Browns, which have been a complete mess for over a decade now? There's really nowhere to go but up.

Oh, one can always add more kindling and gasoline to an already burning dumpster fire.

DJ's left nut
01-28-2013, 11:25 AM
I was wrong. I was reading it in every article discussing specific LTs and what they would be owed if franchised and so I assumed that was the number. I was right that if Miami tags him he will get $15.4 million or so...

Wow. I never knew that rule.

An interesting note to take from that is that I guess that would place Bowe's franchise figure at about $12.4 million vs. 9.6 for Albert.

$3 million in cap space can do a lot of things for this club. It once again emphasizes my thought that Bowe should be the guy we extend long-term while letting Albert play the season under the franchise tag.

NJChiefsFan
01-28-2013, 03:58 PM
...paging Scott *****...

ROFL Game, set, match.

saphojunkie
01-28-2013, 04:59 PM
This is why I fucking hate the whole "draft Joeckel and your left tackle position is set for the next 10-15 years!"

Bullshit.

Your LT is set for the next four years, until your guy is ready to get his big second contract.

Assuming we can sign Albert for at least four years, what's the fucking difference? You can't just re-draft a franchise left tackle every four years in perpetuity, constantly avoiding re-signing him as a veteran.

God I hate everyone who thinks the Chiefs should draft joeckel under ANY circumstances except "Branden Albert has spine AIDS."

HotCarl
01-28-2013, 05:05 PM
This is why I ****ing hate the whole "draft Joeckel and your left tackle position is set for the next 10-15 years!"

Bullshit.

Your LT is set for the next four years, until your guy is ready to get his big second contract.

Assuming we can sign Albert for at least four years, what's the ****ing difference?

Joeckel would be healthy, and 6 years younger.

Pasta Little Brioni
01-28-2013, 05:08 PM
Joeckel would be healthy, and 6 years younger.

...and an absolute waste of a 2-14 season. Number one overall pick and we don't improve the team one bit with the pick.

Sorter
01-28-2013, 05:11 PM
Joeckel would be healthy, and 6 years younger.

Drafting Joeckel means you're probably going to have your pick of either Manuel or Landry Jones as your franchise QB.

Additionally, I'm curious as to why people are just writing Donald Stephenson off like chopped liver.

Good QBs make their OL better. Barry Richardson didn't give up a sack in the 3 games he played with Orton. That should be all the reasoning you need to take Geno at 1.1

htismaqe
01-28-2013, 05:11 PM
Joeckel would be healthy, and 6 years younger.

You're assuming Albert isn't healthy. We have no proof that he isn't.

Joeckel being 6 years younger means absolutely nothing in the grand scheme of things.

notorious
01-28-2013, 05:13 PM
...and an absolute waste of a 2-14 season. Number one overall pick and we don't improve the team one bit with the pick.

/mother fucking thread

HotCarl
01-28-2013, 05:13 PM
I forgot to mention that Albert has peaked as a player, and Joeckel has a ceiling that is a lot higher. It's a gamble, but could be a significant upgrade.

Pasta Little Brioni
01-28-2013, 05:15 PM
This HAS to be that fuckstick Knowmo.

Sorter
01-28-2013, 05:16 PM
I forgot to mention that Albert has peaked as a player, and Joeckel has a ceiling that is a lot higher. It's a gamble, but could be a significant upgrade.

https://i.minus.com/iD7csirbk2rHr.gif

HotCarl
01-28-2013, 05:17 PM
How would it be a waste of a 2-14 season?

If you're temporarily wealthy, you don't buy the highest priced thing on the shelf just because it's got the highest price.

Sorter
01-28-2013, 05:18 PM
How would it be a waste of a 2-14 season?

If you're temporarily wealthy, you don't buy the highest priced thing on the shelf just because it's got the highest price.

You do if it has higher potential, fits a need, and is the most important thing to have.

Pasta Little Brioni
01-28-2013, 05:18 PM
Who's mult is this?

The Franchise
01-28-2013, 05:19 PM
Well I see that Blackbob has come around again.

HotCarl
01-28-2013, 05:21 PM
You do if it has higher potential, fits a need, and is the most important thing to have.

Why waste so much draft value, when we've never in the franchise's history had more to spend?

We could pick someone at #1 who is a worthy #1 overall talent. Or we could pick someone the caliber of which we could have gotten any other year drafting in the teens.

It's a difference of philosophy. Some people want us to stay in our lanes and maximize value in the draft. Some of us want to reach for positions of need.

Sometimes, either one is appropriate. Right now, because we need to change over 2/3 of the roster, I'm in favor of maximizing value.

notorious
01-28-2013, 05:22 PM
God Damnit.


Sigh, it's not worth the effort to kick a Truefan in the nuts.

Pasta Little Brioni
01-28-2013, 05:25 PM
They'd rather get "value" than win a fucking Super Bowl, lol.

Sorter
01-28-2013, 05:26 PM
Why waste so much draft value, when we've never in the franchise's history had more to spend?

We could pick someone at #1 who is a worthy #1 overall talent. Or we could pick someone the caliber of which we could have gotten any other year drafting in the teens.

It's a difference of philosophy. Some people want us to stay in our lanes and maximize value in the draft. Some of us want to reach for positions of need.

Sometimes, either one is appropriate. Right now, because we need to change over 2/3 of the roster, I'm in favor of maximizing value.

Why is it a waste to draft the best quarterback in the draft when you can and it fills a position of need?

Tackles are needed but severely overrated. Above average QB play drastically improves your OL. Barry Richardson, arguably the worst pass blocking tackle in the NFL the last 3 years didn't give up a sack with an average QB in Orton and you really want to waste the opportunity to get the best QB available in favor of a fucking LT?

HotCarl
01-28-2013, 05:28 PM
Why is it a waste to draft the best quarterback in the draft when you can and it fills a position of need?

Tackles are needed but severely overrated. Above average QB play drastically improves your OL. Barry Richardson, arguably the worst pass blocking tackle in the NFL the last 3 years didn't give up a sack with an average QB in Orton and you really want to waste the opportunity to get the best QB available in favor of a ****ing LT?

You're making my point for me.

Trent Green had his Willie Roaf. And the Chiefs had the league's best offense.

Sorter
01-28-2013, 05:29 PM
You're making my point for me.

Trent Green had his Willie Roaf. And the Chiefs had the league's best offense.

JFC.

LMAO

Sorter
01-28-2013, 05:30 PM
You're making my point for me.

Trent Green had his Willie Roaf. And the Chiefs had the league's best offense.

http://i.imgur.com/CE5uC.jpg

Pasta Little Brioni
01-28-2013, 05:31 PM
Someone is attempting to troll the fuck out of us.....that or this is Blackbob's Uncle.

htismaqe
01-28-2013, 05:32 PM
I forgot to mention that Albert has peaked as a player, and Joeckel has a ceiling that is a lot higher. It's a gamble, but could be a significant upgrade.

Yeah, let's gamble the #1 overall pick on a marginal AT BEST improvement.

htismaqe
01-28-2013, 05:33 PM
You're making my point for me.

Trent Green had his Willie Roaf. And the Chiefs had the league's best offense.

And they won all those playoff games too!

htismaqe
01-28-2013, 05:34 PM
We could pick someone at #1 who is a worthy #1 overall talent. Or we could pick someone the caliber of which we could have gotten any other year drafting in the teens.

ROFL

Joeckel isn't Joe Thomas or Jake Long.

He isn't worth the #1 overall pick.

Brock
01-28-2013, 05:35 PM
You're making my point for me.

Trent Green had his Willie Roaf. And the Chiefs had the league's best offense.

We don't have Trent Green. He retired.

Pasta Little Brioni
01-28-2013, 05:36 PM
Anyone pining for Jekyll should go the way of the Rambozo.

htismaqe
01-28-2013, 05:38 PM
We don't have Trent Green. He retired.

Matt Cassel can be Trent Green. We just need 3 more Hall of Famers on the offensive line!

Brock
01-28-2013, 05:40 PM
Matt Cassel can be Trent Green. We just need 3 more Hall of Famers on the offensive line!

And a brain transplant for Cassel.

Sorter
01-28-2013, 05:41 PM
Matt Cassel can be Trent Green. We just need 3 more Hall of Famers on the offensive line!

https://i.minus.com/ipfMviYvuToX1.gif

bevischief
01-28-2013, 05:41 PM
Someone is attempting to troll the **** out of us.....that or this is Blackbob's Uncle.

It's his inbred brother.

htismaqe
01-28-2013, 05:42 PM
https://i.minus.com/ipfMviYvuToX1.gif

You need to stop with that shit.

No more hot chicks!

Pasta Little Brioni
01-28-2013, 05:42 PM
It's his inbred brother.

Could be the midgets enacting their revenge.

Sorter
01-28-2013, 05:45 PM
You need to stop with that shit.

No more hot chicks!

https://i.minus.com/iGPU4iNtSlERO.gif

Pasta Little Brioni
01-28-2013, 05:47 PM
Boxxy is enjoying that WAY too much

htismaqe
01-28-2013, 05:47 PM
https://i.minus.com/iGPU4iNtSlERO.gif

She's got a Marilyn Monroe tat.

:Lin:

Crush
01-28-2013, 05:51 PM
Why waste so much draft value, when we've never in the franchise's history had more to spend?

We could pick someone at #1 who is a worthy #1 overall talent. Or we could pick someone the caliber of which we could have gotten any other year drafting in the teens.

It's a difference of philosophy. Some people want us to stay in our lanes and maximize value in the draft. Some of us want to reach for positions of need.

Sometimes, either one is appropriate. Right now, because we need to change over 2/3 of the roster, I'm in favor of maximizing value.

How is it that a Left Tackle is more valuable than a QB? How is this team getting more "draft value" (whatever the fuck that means) by picking a Left Tackle over a potential franchise QB?

Pasta Little Brioni
01-28-2013, 05:52 PM
How is it that a Left Tackle is more valuable than a QB? How is this team getting more "draft value" (whatever the fuck that means) by picking a Left Tackle over a potential franchise QB?

Kiper's semen screamed it in his mouth

Crush
01-28-2013, 05:52 PM
GD Sorter! I cannot fap and respond to truefan/trolls at the same time. No time for hot chicks, this is serious Internet business.

O.city
01-28-2013, 05:54 PM
If you are going to turn over 2/3 of the roster, would it not be wise to start by getting the most important position and build around him, instead of building the body without the engine, then hoping the engine falls into your lap?

bevischief
01-28-2013, 05:56 PM
Could be the midgets enacting their revenge.

Or Superdouche and his sidekick Superlube.