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Mr_Tomahawk
02-16-2013, 07:56 AM
Let's do this...

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/si/dam/assets/130125131217-mario-chalmers-story-body.jpg

Pablo
02-16-2013, 08:00 AM
This picture need to be at the top.

http://www.sturdyforcommonthings.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/chalmers_shot_1600x1200.jpg

Mr_Tomahawk
02-16-2013, 08:05 AM
Close enough...it's 2.

TribalElder
02-16-2013, 09:32 AM
Home game. KU is not due for another home loss until 2016 or so.

Pablo
02-16-2013, 10:11 AM
I've been watching College Gameday since 9.

The crowd is jacked. This is going to be a very, very fun night. The recruits in the building should be blown away by the energy.

CoMoChief
02-16-2013, 10:29 AM
What time is game? unfortunately im at work til 5

TribalElder
02-16-2013, 10:42 AM
What time is game? unfortunately im at work til 5

8 I believe. This won't be much of a game.

DJJasonp
02-16-2013, 10:47 AM
8 I believe. This won't be much of a game.

it better not be!

Pablo
02-16-2013, 10:48 AM
8 I believe. This won't be much of a game.Kabongo will make UT competitive. That being said I'm still expecting something like KU 72-63.

And yes, the game is 8CST on ESPN.

Lzen
02-16-2013, 07:22 PM
No. 14/13 Kansas to Host Texas Saturday at 8 p.m. on ESPN
ESPN College GameDay to Originate from Allen Fieldhouse starting at 9 a.m.
Feb. 14, 2013
<table style="background-color: #dedede; width: 300px; margin-bottom: 10px; margin-left: 10px; border: #bbbbbb 1pt solid;" frame="border" align="right" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"> <tbody> <tr> <td> <table style="width: 100%;" border="0" cellpadding="8" cellspacing="0"> <tbody> <tr> <td style="text-align: center;">Game Information </td> </tr> </tbody> </table> </td> </tr> <tr></tr> <tr> <td><center>http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/kan/sports/m-baskbl/auto_recap_extra_vertical/8576137.jpeg</center></td> </tr> <tr> <td> <table style="width: 100%;" border="0" cellpadding="8" cellspacing="0"> <tbody> <tr> <td>ESPN College GameDay will make its fifth trip to Allen Fieldhouse Saturday.</td> </tr> <tr> <td> <table style="text-align: left; width: 284px;" border="0" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="1"> <tbody> <tr style="background-color: #0066cc;"> <td colspan="2" bgcolor="#0066cc"> #14/13 Kansas vs. Texas</td> </tr> <tr style="background-color: #cccccc;"> <td style="width: 14%; text-align: left;">Date</td> <td style="width: 60%;">Feb. 16, 2013</td> </tr> <tr style="background-color: #cccccc;"> <td style="width: 14%; text-align: left;">Time</td> <td style="width: 60%;">8 p.m.</td> </tr> <tr style="background-color: #cccccc;"> <td style="width: 14%; text-align: left;">Location</td> <td style="width: 60%;">Lawrence, Kan.</td> </tr> <tr style="background-color: #cccccc;"> <td style="width: 14%; text-align: left;">Arena</td> <td style="width: 60%;">Allen Fieldhouse</td> </tr> <tr style="background-color: #cccccc;"> <td style="width: 14%; text-align: left;">TV</td> <td style="width: 60%;">ESPN</td> </tr> <tr style="background-color: #cccccc;"> <td style="width: 14%; text-align: left;">Radio</td> <td style="width: 60%;">Jayhawk Radio Network (http://www.kuathletics.com/allaccess)</td> </tr> <tr style="background-color: #cccccc;"> <td style="width: 14%; text-align: left;">Live Stats</td> <td style="width: 60%;">GameTracker (http://www.kuathletics.com/gametracker/launch/gt_mbaskbl.html?event=1172547&school=kan&sport=mbaskbl&camefrom=&startschool=&)</td> </tr> </tbody> </table> </td> </tr> </tbody> </table> <table style="width: 100%;" border="0" cellpadding="8" cellspacing="0"> <tbody> <tr> <td> <table style="text-align: left; width: 284px;" border="0" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="1"> <tbody> <tr style="background-color: #a00000;"> <td style="width: 58%;" bgcolor="#0066cc"> Stats at a Glance</td> <td style="width: 21%; text-align: center;" bgcolor="#0066cc">KU</td> <td style="width: 21%; text-align: center;" bgcolor="#0066cc">UT</td> </tr> <tr style="background-color: #cccccc;"> <td>Record</td> <td style="text-align: center;">20-4</td> <td style="text-align: center;">11-13</td> </tr> <tr style="background-color: #cccccc;"> <td>Points Per Game</td> <td style="text-align: center;">73.5</td> <td style="text-align: center;">64.5</td> </tr> <tr style="background-color: #cccccc;"> <td>Scoring Margin</td> <td style="text-align: center;">+12.9</td> <td style="text-align: center;">+1.1</td> </tr> <tr style="background-color: #cccccc;"> <td>FG Percentage</td> <td style="text-align: center;">46.9</td> <td style="text-align: center;">41.4</td> </tr> <tr style="background-color: #cccccc;"> <td>3-Point FG Percentage</td> <td style="text-align: center;">35.5</td> <td style="text-align: center;">28.4</td> </tr> <tr style="background-color: #cccccc;"> <td>FT Percentage</td> <td style="text-align: center;">72.2</td> <td style="text-align: center;">64.3</td> </tr> <tr style="background-color: #cccccc;"> <td>Total Rebounds/GM</td> <td style="text-align: center;">39.0</td> <td style="text-align: center;">38.1</td> </tr> <tr style="background-color: #cccccc;"> <td>Rebounding Margin</td> <td style="text-align: center;">+6.3</td> <td style="text-align: center;">+1.0</td> </tr> <tr style="background-color: #cccccc;"> <td>Assists/GM</td> <td style="text-align: center;">15.0</td> <td style="text-align: center;">12.0</td> </tr> <tr style="background-color: #cccccc;"> <td>Turnovers/GM</td> <td style="text-align: center;">13.4</td> <td style="text-align: center;">15.7</td> </tr> <tr style="background-color: #cccccc;"> <td>Steals/GM</td> <td style="text-align: center;">7.2</td> <td style="text-align: center;">6.4</td> </tr> <tr style="background-color: #cccccc;"> <td>Blocks/GM</td> <td style="text-align: center;">7.0</td> <td style="text-align: center;">5.2</td> </tr> </tbody> </table> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <table style="text-align: left; width: 284px;" border="0" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="1"> <tbody> <tr style="background-color: #a00000;"> <td style="width: 58%;" colspan="3" bgcolor="#0066cc"> Statistical Leaders</td> </tr> <tr style="background-color: #cccccc;"> <td style="width: 16%;" width="16%"> </td> <td style="width: 42%;" width="42%">Kansas</td> <td style="width: 42%;" width="42%">Texas</td> </tr> <tr style="background-color: #cccccc;"> <td>PPG</td> <td>McLemore (16.8)</td> <td>McClellan (14.5)</td> </tr> <tr style="background-color: #cccccc;"> <td>RPG</td> <td>Withey (8.3)</td> <td>Holmes (6.8)</td> </tr> <tr style="background-color: #cccccc;"> <td>APG</td> <td>Johnson (4.6)</td> <td>Felix (5.4)</td> </tr> <tr style="background-color: #cccccc;"> <td>SPG</td> <td>Releford (1.3)</td> <td>Felix (1.3)</td> </tr> <tr style="background-color: #cccccc;"> <td>BPG</td> <td>Withey (4.1)</td> <td>Ridley (1.8)</td> </tr> </tbody> </table> </td> </tr> </tbody> </table> </td> </tr> </tbody> </table> Kansas notes for Texas (http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/kan/sports/m-baskbl/auto_pdf/2012-13/release/release_20130214aaa.pdf) http://grfx.cstv.com/graphics/icon-acrosmall.gif (http://get.adobe.com/reader/)
ESPN COLLEGE GAMEDAY
Kansas continues its two-game homestand when it plays host to Texas, Saturday, Feb. 16. For the fifth time, ESPN College GameDay will originate from Allen Fieldhouse. The event began in 2005 with KU being its second-ever stop. The Fieldhouse also hosted the fan-favorite event in 2007, 2008 and 2011.
Kansas and Texas are the two winningest programs in the 16-plus year history of the Big 12 Conference. KU is first in the conference in wins with a 225-44 record in Big 12 regular-season games. Texas is next at 179-90. Including the league postseason championship, KU is tops at 256-52, while Texas is second at 200-106.
For most of the 2012-13 season, Kansas and Texas have ranked first and second nationally in field goal percentage defense. In fact, both are at 36.1 heading into Saturday's game. Carrying out the decimal, Kansas has the edge by 2/10,000th (.3611 to .3613).
ABOUT KANSAS
Kansas, ranked No. 14 in the Associated Press and No. 13 in the USA Today Coaches’ polls released Feb. 11, is 20-4 (8-3 Big 12) and tied for first with Kansas State (19-5, 8-3) and Oklahoma State (19-5, 8-3) in the 2013 Big 12 race. In his 10th season at Kansas, Bill Self (http://www.kuathletics.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/bill_self_186487.html) holds a 289-57 record for an 83.5 winning percentage. Overall, Self is nearing his 500th career victory with a 496-162 record in his 20th season as a head coach. KU is 13-1 in Allen Fieldhouse, 5-2 in road games and 2-1 on neutral courts in 2012-13. KU averages 73.5 points per game and is giving up 60.6 for a Big 12-leading +12.9 scoring margin. KU also leads the Big 12 in rebound margin at +6.3, field goal percentage at 46.9, field goal percentage defense at 36.1 and blocked shots at 7.0.
Kansas starts four seniors, including three fifth-year seniors, and one freshman. Named to the Sporting News Mid-Season All-American team Jan. 15, redshirt freshman G Ben McLemore (http://www.kuathletics.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/ben_mclemore_762292.html) leads the team in scoring at 16.8 points per game after his 30-point effort against Kansas State Monday. McLemore leads all Big 12 freshmen in scoring and his 16.8 ppg ranks second overall in the conference. The Jan. 14 Big 12 Player of the Week and two-time conference Rookie of the Week, McLemore leads the league in free throw percentage (87.6) and is second in three-point field goal percentage (43.5). McLemore, who is listed on the USBWA Wayman Tisdale National Freshman of the Year Award Midseason list, has a team-high 47 three-pointers made and is second on the KU squad with 28 steals. All-America candidate senior C Jeff Withey (http://www.kuathletics.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/jeff_withey_399962.html) leads Kansas in rebounding (8.3 rpg) and has eight double-doubles this season. Withey leads the league in blocked shots at 4.1 per game, which ranks third nationally. Withey is Kansas’ all-time blocked shots leader with 263 and is one shy of the Big 12 Conference career mark of 264 held by Chris Mihm of Texas (1998-2000). A USBWA Oscar Robertson National Player of the Year Midseason and Wooden Award Mid-Season Top 25 honoree along with McLemore, Withey is scoring 13.2 points per outing. Senior G Travis Releford (http://www.kuathletics.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/travis_releford_373168.html) is second in the Big 12 in field goal percentage at 59.4 percent. The Nov. 26 Big 12 Player of the Week, Releford is scoring 11.8 points per contest. Senior G Elijah Johnson (http://www.kuathletics.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/elijah_johnson_463269.html) has a team-high 110 assists and is second on the team with 34 three-pointers made to complement his 9.1 scoring average. Senior F Kevin Young (http://www.kuathletics.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/kevin_young_762295.html) rounds out the KU starters; he is scoring 7.7 points per contest and is second on the team with 6.8 rebounds per outing. Other KU regulars include freshman F Perry Ellis (http://www.kuathletics.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/perry_ellis_813002.html) (4.5 ppg, 3.5 rpg), sophomore G Naadir Tharpe (http://www.kuathletics.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/naadir_tharpe_762296.html) (5.6 ppg, 2.8 apg) and redshirt freshman F Jamari Traylor (http://www.kuathletics.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/jamari_traylor_762293.html) (2.0 ppg, 2.5 rpg).
ABOUT TEXAS
Located in Austin, Texas, with an enrollment of 52,213, Texas is 11-13 on the season, 3-8 in Big 12 play after its 89-86 double-overtime win against Iowa State Wednesday (2/13). Texas is coached by Rick Barnes who is 353-150 in his 15th season at UT and 555-284 in his 26th season overall. UT averages 64.5 points and gives up 63.3 for a +1.2 scoring margin. For most of the season, Texas leads the Big 12 in three-point field goal percentage defense at 26.1 percent while it is second in the league in field goal percentage defense at 36.1 and blocked shots at 5.2, behind KU’s 7.0 blocks per game.
Sophomore G Sheldon McClellan leads Texas with a 14.5 scoring average and a 80.6 free throw percentage. McClellan’s 25 three-pointers are second highest on the team behind sophomore G Julien Lewis’ 34. Lewis scores 11.1 points per game and is second on the team with 29 steals in 2012-13. Freshman F Ioannis Papapetrou averages 8.4 points, 4.7 rebounds and has 17 blocked shots. Freshman G Javan Felix is third in the Big 12 with 5.4 assists per game. He scores 8.4 points per contest and leads UT with 31 steals this season. Sophomore F Jonathan Holmes averages a team-best 6.8 rebounds per game, seventh in the Big 12, and Holmes scores 7.5 points per game. Freshman C Cameron Ridley leads the team with 44 blocked shots, scores 4.5 ppg and is third on the team with a 4.6 rebound average. Other UT regulars include freshman F Connor Lammert (4.1 ppg, 3.8 rpg), freshman G Demarcus Holland (3.5 ppg), and freshman F/C Prince Ibeh (1.9 ppg, 25 blocked shots). Sophomore G Myck Kabongo returned to the UT lineup against Iowa State after serving a 23-game suspension from the NCAA. He had 13 points, four rebounds and seven assists in the double OT victory.
THE SERIES
Year-in and year-out, the Kansas-Texas battles are some of the best in the Big 12 and nationally in a series that dates back to 1938. Kansas leads 21-7 and has won seven of the last eight meetings. These two teams have met in four of the last six Phillips 66 Big 12 Championship title games with KU claiming all four match-ups: 80-68 in Dallas in 2006, 88-84 in overtime in Oklahoma City in 2007, 84-74 in Kansas City in 2008 and 85-73 in Kansas City in 2011. Kansas is 10-1 against Texas in games played in Lawrence, including 8-1 in Allen Fieldhouse. On Jan. 22, 2011, UT ended KU’s 69-game home-court winning streak its lone win in Lawrence. Since the inception of the Big 12, Kansas holds a 17-6 record against Texas with a 13-5 mark in regular-season play and 4-1 record in the Big 12 Championship. Kansas head coach Bill Self (http://www.kuathletics.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/bill_self_186487.html) is 11-7 all-time against Texas, including 11-5 while at KU. Texas head coach Rick Barnes is 6-15 all-time versus Kansas.
Earlier this season, Kansas redshirt freshman G Ben McLemore (http://www.kuathletics.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/ben_mclemore_762292.html) scored 16 points on 6-of-10 shooting to lead KU to a 64-59 win at Texas on Jan. 19. KU senior C Jeff Withey (http://www.kuathletics.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/jeff_withey_399962.html) just missed a double-double with 14 points and nine rebounds, while senior G Travis Releford (http://www.kuathletics.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/travis_releford_373168.html) scored 12 points. Texas led 28-26 at intermission and UT sophomore guard Sheldon McClellan led all scorers with 18 points.
http://www.kuathletics.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/021413aaa.html

Mr. Laz
02-16-2013, 07:23 PM
Q



we're doomed

Mr. Laz
02-16-2013, 07:24 PM
.

KC_Connection
02-16-2013, 07:32 PM
Why are there two game threads? I'm so confused.

Imon Yourside
02-16-2013, 07:51 PM
Start it up!

Ceej
02-16-2013, 07:56 PM
Why are there two game threads? I'm so confused.

NM, I see it.

Chiefs Pantalones
02-16-2013, 08:01 PM
Everyone shut the heck up, the Legends are about to play!

Ceej
02-16-2013, 08:02 PM
Nice jerseys, Texas.

Fucking yuck!

Mr. Laz
02-16-2013, 08:20 PM
completely different team when we are shooting well


:clap:

Ceej
02-16-2013, 08:20 PM
Bunch of alums behind the bench.

Mr. Laz
02-16-2013, 08:22 PM
altered the shot and then a nice rebound by Withey

Mr. Laz
02-16-2013, 08:23 PM
How can Ellis miss what amounts to a layup?

Withey had both Texas post men screen off


:banghead:

KC_Connection
02-16-2013, 08:26 PM
McLemore really needs to shoot more. Not sure what he's doing passing to Releford when he could have just drove at the basket.

Ceej
02-16-2013, 08:27 PM
Not sure what T-Rob and Rio are wearing.

chiefsfan987
02-16-2013, 08:28 PM
I just don't think this team has the killer instinct it takes to be a special team. UT not shooting well and yet they are still right there.

KC_Connection
02-16-2013, 08:28 PM
Perry is one of the softest college players I've ever witnessed. I think he makes everyone else softer by just being on the team.

Lzen
02-16-2013, 08:28 PM
My bad. Didn't see this on the front page.

Bambi
02-16-2013, 08:29 PM
Slew of recruits behind the bench.

silver5liter
02-16-2013, 08:30 PM
and sloppy as shit all of a sudden.

Bambi
02-16-2013, 08:30 PM
Perry is one of the softest college players I've ever witnessed. I think he makes everyone else softer by just being on the team.

He's bad. Been saying that for months now. Looks like he's a great kid but he doesn't belong at Kansas.

Bambi
02-16-2013, 08:31 PM
McLemore might be the greatest shooter KU has ever seen.

Lzen
02-16-2013, 08:31 PM
Lol. Didn't see this on the front page and it was less than an hour til game time. Guess I just assumed nobody made a thread. I doubt my making a dupe thread has anything to do with KU success or failure.

Mods, please delete.

Mr. Laz
02-16-2013, 08:32 PM
Holy shite ... Young made it

demonhero
02-16-2013, 08:33 PM
Elijah Johnson 1-4 1-3 good line so far....

Mr. Laz
02-16-2013, 08:34 PM
two straight by Young!!!!!

Lzen
02-16-2013, 08:34 PM
Love the mention of Topeka YMCA. I play at Topeka YMCA. I know it was a century ago. Don't care. :)

KC_Connection
02-16-2013, 08:35 PM
He's bad. Been saying that for months now. Looks like he's a great kid but he doesn't belong at Kansas.
I wouldn't say that. There are skills there, but he has no idea how to utilize them at this level right now. He's used to dominating a bunch of white kids in Kansas high schools and he hasn't adjusted to the D1 level yet at all. It might help if he had some intensity, but that isn't there either.

I'd play Traylor over him. At least he'll give you offensive rebounding.

Mr. Laz
02-16-2013, 08:38 PM
fucking refs

Mr. Laz
02-16-2013, 08:39 PM
cum sucking bastage refs


bullshit call on Releford ... complete crap

Bambi
02-16-2013, 08:45 PM
All these losses going on. Can't see why KU can't get back to the #1 seed line.

Bearcat
02-16-2013, 08:48 PM
Bill Self talking about how they could be winning by more... because KU should have 30+ points? No, because Texas should only have 5... heh.

Bambi
02-16-2013, 08:49 PM
ugly half

Mr. Laz
02-16-2013, 08:49 PM
All these losses going on. Can't see why KU can't get back to the #1 seed line.
How about we worry about learning to make our shots right under the basket first.

Imon Yourside
02-16-2013, 08:50 PM
This is some bad basketball.

Bambi
02-16-2013, 08:50 PM
How about we worry about learning to make our shots right under the basket first.

Frankamp set the Wichita High School scoring record tonight. Maybe he'll help.

Bambi
02-16-2013, 08:51 PM
Dodds, Brown, Barnes...all fired in one year?

I say it can totally happen.

KC_Connection
02-16-2013, 08:52 PM
Adams makes a terrible fucking mistake whenever they happen to bring him in for his 1 minute of playing time. Stop bringing him in.

Mr. Laz
02-16-2013, 08:52 PM
Rio Adams is a disaster right now


each time he enters the game he starts turning the ball over

KC_Connection
02-16-2013, 08:53 PM
All these losses going on. Can't see why KU can't get back to the #1 seed line.
A hell of a long way from that. And they don't deserve it.

Shogun
02-16-2013, 08:53 PM
Dodds, Brown, Barnes...all fired in one year?

I say it can totally happen.

Man, brad stevens could do some damage at Texas if he decided to leave Butler

Bambi
02-16-2013, 08:53 PM
Is Tharpe hurt? WTF is going on?

demonhero
02-16-2013, 08:53 PM
get rid of his scolly

Mr. Laz
02-16-2013, 08:54 PM
That turnover by Adams was actually a kicked ball


should of been given back to KU

Imon Yourside
02-16-2013, 08:54 PM
That was teh suck.

Imon Yourside
02-16-2013, 08:54 PM
Is Tharpe hurt? WTF is going on?

Yup, dunno Tharpe is the only one to have a successful end of half possession.

chiefsfan987
02-16-2013, 08:54 PM
How many times this season have we given our opposition an extra possession at the end of the half they shouldn't have had?

chiefsfan987
02-16-2013, 08:55 PM
Rio Adams is a disaster right now


each time he enters the game he starts turning the ball over

He can't handle any sort of pressure. If you pressure him he turns it over.

KC_Connection
02-16-2013, 08:56 PM
Should have been a 20+ point lead very easily, but unacceptable mistakes have kept it far closer than it should have been.

KC_Connection
02-16-2013, 08:57 PM
How many times this season have we given our opposition an extra possession at the end of the half they shouldn't have had?
At least 6 or 7 times now. The last five Self teams probably did it a total of that many times, if not less.

Mr. Laz
02-16-2013, 08:57 PM
How many times this season have we given our opposition an extra possession at the end of the half they shouldn't have had?
Ask Pablo ... he says our final possession plays always work.

KC_Connection
02-16-2013, 08:58 PM
Frankamp set the Wichita High School scoring record tonight. Maybe he'll help.
Perry Ellis was dominating those kids too, in case you forgot.

KC_Connection
02-16-2013, 08:59 PM
Ask Pablo ... he says our final possession plays always work.
It works with players that aren't incompetent.

Imon Yourside
02-16-2013, 09:00 PM
Perry Ellis was dominating those kids too, in case you forgot.

Perry will be great when he learns how to take a bump and grow about 3 inches or so.

KC_Connection
02-16-2013, 09:00 PM
Tharpe went back to playing badly again in that first half. Terrible defense and none of the same penetration/creation that he did in the previous game except for one pass to Withey. I imagine that's why Self didn't play him at the end there (although if the other option is Rio Adams fucking up, I'll take Tharpe).

ROYC75
02-16-2013, 09:05 PM
We playing like crap, UT is playing crappier.

teedubya
02-16-2013, 09:06 PM
We could have held them to 11 points... daaaamn.

Bambi
02-16-2013, 09:10 PM
Perry Ellis was dominating those kids too, in case you forgot.

Good point but with the position Frankamp plays and scoring as much as he has by shooting I would tend to believe he's going to be much more of a success at KU than Ellis.

Reerun_KC
02-16-2013, 09:12 PM
hi kids

Bambi
02-16-2013, 09:12 PM
Perry will be great when he learns how to take a bump and grow about 3 inches or so.

lol

Ceej
02-16-2013, 09:14 PM
Got lucky there on that block foul on Pappawhatever.

Reerun_KC
02-16-2013, 09:16 PM
KU plays like this on Wednesday and OSU will run them right out of Stillwater....

Imon Yourside
02-16-2013, 09:18 PM
KU plays like this on Wednesday and OSU will run them right out of Stillwater....

Uh...yeah.

Ceej
02-16-2013, 09:19 PM
KU plays like this on Wednesday and OSU will run them right out of Stillwater....

Obvious post is obvious.

chiefsfan987
02-16-2013, 09:20 PM
KU plays like this on Wednesday and OSU will run them right out of Stillwater....

unless OSU plays like UT is playing right now heh

O.city
02-16-2013, 09:20 PM
OSU defensively is no Texas, who's pretty good on that end.

ArrowheadHawk
02-16-2013, 09:21 PM
The guys will be ready on Wednesday.

Reerun_KC
02-16-2013, 09:22 PM
OSU defensively is no Texas, who's pretty good on that end.

OSU is no Texas when it comes to offense.... OSU can shoot the rock.

Mr. Kotter
02-16-2013, 09:23 PM
KU plays like this on Wednesday and OSU will run them right out of Stillwater....

Dude...OSU is a different opponent. Self and the Hawks know this; a little faith, please???

:doh!:

KC_Connection
02-16-2013, 09:25 PM
It's going to take the best game KU's played all year to beat OSU on the road. That's obvious. But they're doing pretty good here in the 2nd half so far.

Bearcat
02-16-2013, 09:28 PM
If Kansas State plays like Texas is playing against Kansas, they'll have a tough time against West Virginia.

Ceej
02-16-2013, 09:30 PM
If Kansas State plays like Texas is playing against Kansas, they'll have a tough time against West Virginia.

Obvious post is ....still obvious?

LMAO

Mr. Laz
02-16-2013, 09:32 PM
Seeing a flash of the Releford from earlier this year ... much needed.

KC_Connection
02-16-2013, 09:34 PM
Well that was a shitty four minutes. Didn't help that they pulled Withey and brought back Perry Ellis who can't do a damn thing on the court effectively.

KC_Connection
02-16-2013, 09:35 PM
Seeing a flash of the Releford from earlier this year ... much needed.
This doesn't even make sense. The Releford of early in the year was bricking shots. Since about game 4 or 5, he's been the most efficient player in the NCAA.

Imon Yourside
02-16-2013, 09:36 PM
Well that was a shitty four minutes. Didn't help that they pulled Withey and brought back Perry Ellis who can't do a damn thing on the court effectively.

We also Sat Johnson when he was playing the best he's played in the last several games.

KC_Connection
02-16-2013, 09:37 PM
We also Sat Johnson when he was playing the best he's played in the last several games.
But everybody hates EJ. How could he possibly ever play well? :)

Imon Yourside
02-16-2013, 09:38 PM
Are my eyes deceiving me or did Traylor just make a nice move and score?

Mr. Kotter
02-16-2013, 09:39 PM
Are my eyes deceiving me or did Traylor just make a nice move and score?

Stuff happens...or else you are blind. I'm betting on the latter... :evil:

Mr. Kotter
02-16-2013, 09:40 PM
EJ of last year's March...or THIS year??? :shrug:

KC_Connection
02-16-2013, 09:41 PM
Are my eyes deceiving me or did Traylor just make a nice move and score?
More than Perry's done all year.

Imon Yourside
02-16-2013, 09:42 PM
Man...Texas is bad...really bad.

Imon Yourside
02-16-2013, 09:42 PM
More than Perry's done all year.

Rebounding? absolutely....scoring? not so much.

Reerun_KC
02-16-2013, 09:42 PM
Man...Texas is bad...really bad.

This looks alot like KU at TCU....


Texas is that bad...

chiefsfan987
02-16-2013, 09:44 PM
This looks alot like KU at TCU....


Texas is that bad...

The Chaminade loss wasn't an aberration huh....

Mr. Laz
02-16-2013, 09:45 PM
For the most part, Young has actually looked coordinated in this game.


LMAO

Reerun_KC
02-16-2013, 09:46 PM
Young is a hoot to watch....

Ceej
02-16-2013, 09:46 PM
Elijah Johnson has played much better tonight.

But, c'mon now. Most of his points are from layups.

Mr. Laz
02-16-2013, 09:46 PM
Young pulls a Reggie Miller1!!


:D

Imon Yourside
02-16-2013, 09:46 PM
Go Elijah! Yessir that's ma man!

Mr. Laz
02-16-2013, 09:47 PM
where the hell did this EJ come from? :eek:


:clap:

the Talking Can
02-16-2013, 09:47 PM
texas makes ku at tcu look like bryant gumbel

TLO
02-16-2013, 09:47 PM
Texas being taken to the woodshead.

Imon Yourside
02-16-2013, 09:47 PM
Young is a hoot to watch....

Yup, love his sneaky jump back defense on the inbounds plays, occasionally he'll get a couple.

KC_Connection
02-16-2013, 09:47 PM
It's amazing that there are two worse teams than Texas in the B12. And even more amazing that KU lost to one of them.

the Talking Can
02-16-2013, 09:47 PM
UT, UNC, UK...all these teams are fucking train wrecks

Self's consistency is amazing

KC_Connection
02-16-2013, 09:49 PM
Elijah Johnson has played much better tonight.

But, c'mon now. Most of his points are from layups.
Something wrong with that? It's fantastic that he's getting penetration and scoring like that at all. He's been bricking layups for a good two months before this.

Imon Yourside
02-16-2013, 09:49 PM
Something wrong with that? It's fantastic that he's getting penetration and scoring like that at all. He's been bricking layups for a good two months before this.

Yessir, less bricking of 3's and more driving to the hoop with touch around the hoop.

Reerun_KC
02-16-2013, 09:50 PM
It's amazing that there are two worse teams than Texas in the B12. And even more amazing that KU lost to one of them.

Losses happen all the time, year after year. But historical losses are the ones that leave a lasting mark.....

O.city
02-16-2013, 09:50 PM
Thats like a guy throwing a TD, but didn't make 3 reads to do it.


If he's scoring, who gives a shit how he does it.

Ceej
02-16-2013, 09:50 PM
Something wrong with that? It's fantastic that he's getting penetration and scoring like that at all. He's been bricking layups for a good two months before this.

Not at all - it helps, or should from a confidence standpoint.

He has been good. But, not great or anything.

However, him being good certainly helps this team in the long run.

Mr. Laz
02-16-2013, 09:50 PM
Has EJ gotten called for a charge in this game?

Imon Yourside
02-16-2013, 09:51 PM
Has EJ gotten called for a charge in this game?

SHUT THAT TRAP!!! still time left on the clock.

KC_Connection
02-16-2013, 09:51 PM
Even in garbage time, Perry Ellis' compete level just isn't there.

TLO
02-16-2013, 09:52 PM
The number of offensive rebounds Texas has gotten is a concern. # trying to be critical of something

Mr. Laz
02-16-2013, 09:52 PM
SHUT THAT TRAP!!! still time left on the clock.
muh bad



:thumb:

KC_Connection
02-16-2013, 09:52 PM
Not at all - it helps, or should from a confidence standpoint.

He has been good. But, not great or anything.

However, him being good certainly helps this team in the long run.
Especially if Tharpe is only going to go right back into his shell after one good game.

Reerun_KC
02-16-2013, 09:53 PM
Even in garbage time, Perry Ellis' compete level just isn't there.

probably should release him from his scholarship... Dont ya think?

KC_Connection
02-16-2013, 09:54 PM
probably should release him from his scholarship... Dont ya think?
No need. But if it's the thing standing in the way of us getting a top recruit...

Imon Yourside
02-16-2013, 09:54 PM
muh bad



:thumb:

;)

BENNIE MAC!!!!!

Shogun
02-16-2013, 09:54 PM
AIR MCLEMORE!

Mr_Tomahawk
02-16-2013, 09:54 PM
wut

the Talking Can
02-16-2013, 09:55 PM
B-MAC

http://i.minus.com/i9xXsxvrvoHPA.gif

Reerun_KC
02-16-2013, 09:55 PM
sick

Bearcat
02-16-2013, 09:56 PM
still time left on the clock.

I don't think Texas is aware of this...

Ceej
02-16-2013, 09:57 PM
Especially if Tharpe is only going to go right back into his shell after one good game.

Which he hasn't, yet.

ArrowheadHawk
02-16-2013, 09:57 PM
Can BMac be our Carmello?

TLO
02-16-2013, 09:57 PM
Bmac is a fucking beast.

Mr. Laz
02-16-2013, 09:57 PM
one more year
one more year
one more year
one more year

chiefsfan987
02-16-2013, 09:57 PM
The number of offensive rebounds Texas has gotten is a concern. # trying to be critical of something

to be fair, they've missed a hell of a lot of shots... they should have a bunch of them.

TLO
02-16-2013, 10:04 PM
Quit calling fouls..

TLO
02-16-2013, 10:08 PM
Tyler Self with the buckett! What a fun game.

Ceej
02-16-2013, 10:08 PM
Fuck Texas for still pressing.

Douchebags.

Mr. Laz
02-16-2013, 10:10 PM
Fuck Texas for still pressing.

Douchebags.
i was thinking the same


as soon as Texas saw some n00b guards out there they immediately starting pressing.

fucking punks

Bambi
02-16-2013, 10:10 PM
I haven't seen an ass kicking like this since KU Football put 76 on Nebraska in 2007.

KC_Connection
02-16-2013, 10:11 PM
Also amazing to consider that those kids practice basketball every day of the week and they're still that bad at it. But hey, at least Self hit a shot.

KC_Connection
02-16-2013, 10:12 PM
Losses happen all the time, year after year. But historical losses are the ones that leave a lasting mark.....
Not if they are said to be the catalyst for winning afterwards.

KC_Connection
02-16-2013, 10:13 PM
**** Texas for still pressing.

Douchebags.
Barnes is a hack. It's no surprise. Texas didn't even show up tonight and really they haven't shown up all season...that's on him.

KC_Connection
02-16-2013, 10:14 PM
Can BMac be our Carmello?
Doesn't dominate games like Carmelo, so no. He could be something like our Ray Allen (for UConn), though.

TLO
02-16-2013, 10:25 PM
Kansas is playing well right now. Time to beat OSU

Lzen
02-16-2013, 10:27 PM
Especially if Tharpe is only going to go right back into his shell after one good game.

Wtf are you talking about? Tharpe played well. Loved the no look passes.

It was nice to see EJ play much better tonight, though. If Ku wants to go anywhere on the tourney they'll need Ej to play well. One knock is that he still is sucking from 3.

Pants
02-16-2013, 10:28 PM
Like Bilas said, it was great seeing EJ laughing out there tonight. I love that dude.

KC_Connection
02-16-2013, 10:35 PM
Wtf are you talking about? Tharpe played well. Loved the no look passes.

I'm talking about the game Tharpe played. It was poor. He couldn't keep Kabongo in front of him, took a few ill-advised shots, and didn't show anywhere near the same creation ability as he did on Monday. There's a reason Self kept him on the bench for much of the game today and it wasn't because he was playing well. I would love to say otherwise, but he just didn't play anything like he can.

chiefsfan987
02-16-2013, 10:38 PM
Kansas is playing well right now. Time to beat OSU

OSU is certainly due for a loss.

KC_Connection
02-16-2013, 10:42 PM
OSU is certainly due for a loss.
Probably not due for a loss at home in that building, but I'm glad KU is going to playing a very tough game with some meaning at this point of the year. It will help them whether they win or not.

Shogun
02-16-2013, 11:03 PM
Mclemore dunk #1 on SC top 10

Prison Bitch
02-16-2013, 11:46 PM
Hard to believe how bad Texas is this year. They did miss Kybongo but they are horrible everywhere. Ibeh was a top-50 recruit at the post and Cam Ridley was a 5-star top-15 center. Both looked like dogmeat out there. Papapetrou was a big recruit too, KU wanted him as well as the two post guys. They are awful.

KC_Connection
02-16-2013, 11:52 PM
Hard to believe how bad Texas is this year. They did miss Kybongo but they are horrible everywhere. Ibeh was a top-50 recruit at the post and Cam Ridley was a 5-star top-15 center. Both looked like dogmeat out there. Papapetrou was a big recruit too, KU wanted him as well as the two post guys. They are awful.
Kabongo can't do much for them when they can't even hit open shots. I barely noticed McClellan at all.

Ceej
02-17-2013, 12:32 AM
Kabongo can't do much for them when they can't even hit open shots. I barely noticed McClellan at all.

Kabongo did pretty well in the first half driving and kicking it out.

But they couldn't hit any shots.

BWillie
02-17-2013, 12:44 AM
I'm talking about the game Tharpe played. It was poor. He couldn't keep Kabongo in front of him, took a few ill-advised shots, and didn't show anywhere near the same creation ability as he did on Monday. There's a reason Self kept him on the bench for much of the game today and it wasn't because he was playing well. I would love to say otherwise, but he just didn't play anything like he can.

Nobody can keep Kabongo in front of them. Luckily for everybody else the guy cant finish or shoot. Look.....Naadir is no defensive stopper but you cant really knock him just cuz Kabongo could shake him. That's what Myck does...its the reason hes an NBA prospect b u t NBA scouts were hoping he would learn to finish against real sized opponents.

Silock
02-17-2013, 03:34 AM
No need. But if it's the thing standing in the way of us getting a top recruit...

WTF?

Ellis will be awesome. Getting rid of him would be BEYOND stupid.

KC_Connection
02-17-2013, 04:54 AM
WTF?

Ellis will be awesome. Getting rid of him would be BEYOND stupid.
What? I didn't say they should. I'm pretty sure they don't need to open up any scholarships in order to bring a guy like Wiggins in, anyway.

I will say that Ellis is going to seriously have to change his body and his attitude/toughness on court if he's ever going to be awesome. I would never completely write off such a possibility at his age, though.

Silock
02-17-2013, 05:07 AM
You made it sound as if Ellis isn't a top recruit. He IS. The Morii and TRob didn't look awesome their first years, either.

Ellis will be amazing.

CoMoChief
02-17-2013, 07:01 AM
You made it sound as if Ellis isn't a top recruit. He IS. The Morii and TRob didn't look awesome their first years, either.

Ellis will be amazing.

No he wont be....he was a big fish in a small pond.

I've never seen a MCDAA suck so fucking bad as him. He has no post move, he's strictly a back to the basket player, and a VERY weak one at that. He can't rebound. He has somewhat of a soft touch shot but his confidence is so fucking shot he won't attempt a jumper.

KC_Connection
02-17-2013, 07:16 AM
You made it sound as if Ellis isn't a top recruit. He IS. The Morii and TRob didn't look awesome their first years, either.

Ellis will be amazing.
You should probably read the game thread. I actually defended Ellis when somebody (probably Wickedson, I can't quite recall) said that he was terrible and shouldn't be at Kansas. That was going too far (well not the terrible part...because he is quite terrible right now).

It should be stated, though, that top recruits don't always pan out. KU has been fortunate with their bigs over the last little while becoming very effective players, but that isn't always the way it is.

ChiefMojo
02-17-2013, 07:18 AM
Ellis will be a lot better than some think right now. As mentioned T-Rob and the Morris twins in many ways looked worse than Ellis right now when they were freshman.

People complain about Ellis being soft, but at the same time if you looked up in the dictionary what a soft freshman looked like... you would have found the Morris twins pics in it.

KC_Connection
02-17-2013, 07:21 AM
Ellis will be a lot better than some think right now. As mentioned T-Rob and the Morris twins in many ways looked worse than Ellis right now when they were freshman.

People complain about Ellis being soft, but at the same time if you looked up in the dictionary what a soft freshman looked like... you would have found the Morris twins pics in it.
The Morrises were out of control but at least tried hard and played with intensity in 2009. They also rebounded the basketball much better than Ellis. Of course, Self had to use them a lot more so that gave them some room over the season to grow that Ellis doesn't have.

Spicy McHaggis
02-17-2013, 08:10 AM
I remember watching the Morris twins their freshmen year and wondering if either could actually dunk.

The improvement they made in their time at KU was drastic.

DJay23
02-17-2013, 08:36 AM
Ellis will be fine.

Lzen
02-17-2013, 08:42 AM
Ellis will be a lot better than some think right now. As mentioned T-Rob and the Morris twins in many ways looked worse than Ellis right now when they were freshman.

People complain about Ellis being soft, but at the same time if you looked up in the dictionary what a soft freshman looked like... you would have found the Morris twins pics in it.

Yup. And the people knocking him and saying he should not be at Kansas are idiots.

Reerun_KC
02-17-2013, 08:48 AM
No he wont be....he was a big fish in a small pond.

I've never seen a MCDAA suck so ****ing bad as him. He has no post move, he's strictly a back to the basket player, and a VERY weak one at that. He can't rebound. He has somewhat of a soft touch shot but his confidence is so ****ing shot he won't attempt a jumper.

This pretty much gift wraps a solid career for Ellis. Como is about as accurate as the heavens gate cult inthe 90's.

99% of the time the reverse happens when como opens his man pleaser.

DJay23
02-17-2013, 08:59 AM
This pretty much gift wraps a solid career for Ellis. Como is about as accurate as the heavens gate cult inthe 90's.

99% of the time the reverse happens when como opens his man pleaser.

Sasha Kaun was awful and never should have been out on the floor.

KC_Connection
02-17-2013, 09:02 AM
Kaun is still playing pro ball for the best team in Russia. Plays significant minutes too.

http://www.euroleague.net/competition/players/showplayer?clubcode=csk&pcode=001228
http://www.euroleague.net/competition/teams/showteam?pcode=001228&clubcode=CSK&seasoncode=E2012

DJay23
02-17-2013, 09:10 AM
Kaun is still playing pro ball for the best team in Russia. Plays significant minutes too.

http://www.euroleague.net/competition/players/showplayer?clubcode=csk&pcode=001228
http://www.euroleague.net/competition/teams/showteam?pcode=001228&clubcode=CSK&seasoncode=E2012

I know I was mocking CoMo

Al Czervik
02-17-2013, 09:11 AM
Anybody else think Ellis would be farther along if he had Coach Manning in his ear?

Ellis is a great kid and hard worker....He will get better every year he is here.
They all do....

DJJasonp
02-17-2013, 09:30 AM
Anybody else think Ellis would be farther along if he had Coach Manning in his ear?
...

Maybe

Ellis, and traylor for that matter, are going to be just fine.

Matter of fact, I see Traylor being a darnell jackson type. And Ellis has a pretty high ceiling IMHO.

Ceej
02-17-2013, 09:31 AM
Any quotes, tweets or information about some of the recruits last night?

Mr. Plow
02-17-2013, 10:45 AM
No he wont be....he was a big fish in a small pond.

I've never seen a MCDAA suck so fucking bad as him. He has no post move, he's strictly a back to the basket player, and a VERY weak one at that. He can't rebound. He has somewhat of a soft touch shot but his confidence is so fucking shot he won't attempt a jumper.


LMAO

Prison Bitch
02-17-2013, 10:52 AM
You made it sound as if Ellis isn't a top recruit. He IS. The Morii and TRob didn't look awesome their first years, either.

Ellis will be amazing.

Yes they did. And no he will not. Perry is the biggest disappointment in many years at KU thus far.

Prison Bitch
02-17-2013, 10:53 AM
As mentioned T-Rob and the Morris twins in many ways looked worse than Ellis right now when they were freshman. .

I never could understand where myths get started.

Pants
02-17-2013, 11:06 AM
I never could understand where myths get started.

I don't know where myths get started either, but the post you have quoted is absolutely not a myth.

Anyone who has deemed Ellis to be a failure is pretty much a moron. There's not much more to say than that.

CoMoChief
02-17-2013, 11:20 AM
Sasha Kaun was awful and never should have been out on the floor.

Kaun had 1 good game....that was vs. Davidson

CoMoChief
02-17-2013, 11:21 AM
Maybe

Ellis, and traylor for that matter, are going to be just fine.

Matter of fact, I see Traylor being a darnell jackson type. And Ellis has a pretty high ceiling IMHO.

explain...

silver5liter
02-17-2013, 11:32 AM
Reaaaaaly cracks me up that you guys are wanting to give up on a top recruit freshman so early. He will be very good.

Ceej
02-17-2013, 11:34 AM
Some times I think prison, wicked and Como are all the same person.

Mr. Plow
02-17-2013, 11:45 AM
Kaun had 1 good game....that was vs. Davidson

Let's not go through this again. You're wrong. Everyone knows you're wrong.

Mr. Plow
02-17-2013, 11:46 AM
Reaaaaaly cracks me up that you guys are wanting to give up on a top recruit freshman so early. He will be very good.


It's called going from high school to a major college program.

Lzen
02-17-2013, 11:49 AM
Let's not go through this again. You're wrong. Everyone knows you're wrong.

Water is wet. The sky is blue.

Silock
02-17-2013, 11:55 AM
No he wont be....he was a big fish in a small pond.

I've never seen a MCDAA suck so fucking bad as him. He has no post move, he's strictly a back to the basket player, and a VERY weak one at that. He can't rebound. He has somewhat of a soft touch shot but his confidence is so fucking shot he won't attempt a jumper.

This is idiotic. You clearly don't remember anything about the development of bigs at KU in the past decade.

The Morii perfected the weak ass power layup, never taking it strong to the hoop and dunking.

Silock
02-17-2013, 11:55 AM
Yes they did. And no he will not. Perry is the biggest disappointment in many years at KU thus far.

No, they didn't.

Bambi
02-17-2013, 11:59 AM
Failure is such a subjective term. I honestly never saw Perry Ellis play in high school so I can't tell you that I had any real expectations out of him. All I can speak to is his play at KU. He is what he is. Players who log meaningful minutes at Kansas typically are much better than Ellis, regardless of position. Hopefully he gets better.

Prison Bitch
02-17-2013, 12:17 PM
It's called going from high school to a major college program.


Perry isn't a typical high schooler. He was a Mickey D and a consensus top-25 recruit. The only 4-time POY in Kansas. A guy who was expected to start day 1. And he's not just having typical FR struggles: he can't catch the ball, can't go up for a layup without being stripped or rejected, looks slow, has zero confidence when he does get it ....... and is just flat surprised by the lateral quickness of defenders at this level.


It may be a problem with his lack of competition in HS but thus far, he looks absolutely terrible. This really can't be denied. Will be turn out ok? He might, I have no idea either way. But let's not sugarcoat his dreadful season.

the Talking Can
02-17-2013, 12:20 PM
KU fans...the dumbest

Ceej
02-17-2013, 12:24 PM
Pretty sure the team has still done pretty well regardless of Ellis' play.

silver5liter
02-17-2013, 12:27 PM
KU fans...the dumbest

Im a KU fan, these guys are dumb as shit. Perry ellis will be good

the Talking Can
02-17-2013, 12:30 PM
Im a KU fan, these guys are dumb as shit. Perry ellis will be good

he'll be fine

if you want to see highly recruited failures, watch Kentucky, that is a fucking nuclear melt down with much higher rated recruits....

jesus people need perspective...but KU fans are spoiled to the point of becoming retarded

Mr. Plow
02-17-2013, 12:44 PM
Perry isn't a typical high schooler. He was a Mickey D and a consensus top-25 recruit. The only 4-time POY in Kansas. A guy who was expected to start day 1. And he's not just having typical FR struggles: he can't catch the ball, can't go up for a layup without being stripped or rejected, looks slow, has zero confidence when he does get it ....... and is just flat surprised by the lateral quickness of defenders at this level.


You don't think ANY of that has to do with the fact that he got by on superior talent in a weak high school basketball state and then went to a college powerhouse? Really? That shit you just named: trouble with catching & holding onto the ball, stronger players taking the ball, confidence in what he is doing, is no longer the best player on the court by a mile....that is the definition of a freshman.

Ellis will be fine. Will he turn into a great KU player? No idea. But I'm sure he'll be at minimum a serviceable player for KU for at least 2 more years.

Prison Bitch
02-17-2013, 12:48 PM
he'll be fine

if you want to see highly recruited failures, watch Kentucky, that is a ****ing nuclear melt down with much higher rated recruits....


Really dumb. Kentucky sucks, but their freshman have outplayed Perry Ellis. And that's what we're talking about here. Don't change the subject by pulling in the rest of their rosters. If Kentucky had Withey & Ben and Travis, they'd be a lot better than we would. Perry < Kentucky FR this year, face it.

Ceej
02-17-2013, 12:50 PM
Really dumb. Kentucky sucks, but their freshman have outplayed Perry Ellis. And that's what we're talking about here. Don't change the subject by pulling in the rest of their rosters. If Kentucky had Withey & Ben and Travis, they'd be a lot better than we would. Perry < Kentucky FR this year, face it.

Of course their freshman play better than Ellis.

Because they play all of the fucking time. Giving them more opportunities and experience.

Durrrrrrr.

Prison Bitch
02-17-2013, 12:54 PM
Or, maybe they're just better players?

Ceej
02-17-2013, 12:55 PM
Or, maybe they're just better players?

Who said they weren't?

Your argument is flawed.

silver5liter
02-17-2013, 01:05 PM
Of course their freshman play better than Ellis.

Because they play all of the ****ing time. Giving them more opportunities and experience.

Durrrrrrr.

Not to mention they were all the top recruits in their class.....

silver5liter
02-17-2013, 01:06 PM
Or, maybe they're just better players?

OHHH really?!? The top 5 star recruits in the country are playing better than the 35th ranked 4 star? You dont say?

the Talking Can
02-17-2013, 01:08 PM
Really dumb. Kentucky sucks, but their freshman have outplayed Perry Ellis. And that's what we're talking about here. Don't change the subject by pulling in the rest of their rosters. If Kentucky had Withey & Ben and Travis, they'd be a lot better than we would. Perry < Kentucky FR this year, face it.

their freshman were higher ranked and have been complete fucking disasters with the exception of noel...harrow, poythress, and goodwin are selfish pouters and their fanbase (and coach, it seems) hate them

there's no problem with ellis, he's going to be fine...and if you've been a KU fan for more than day, you'd know that...

if you thought Ellis was Arthur, that's your fault

Demonpenz
02-17-2013, 01:36 PM
Give ellis 10,000 hours of KU basketball experience.

Silock
02-17-2013, 07:59 PM
Really dumb. Kentucky sucks, but their freshman have outplayed Perry Ellis. And that's what we're talking about here. Don't change the subject by pulling in the rest of their rosters. If Kentucky had Withey & Ben and Travis, they'd be a lot better than we would. Perry < Kentucky FR this year, face it.

UK Cal wanted Ellis. Badly.

Chiefs Pantalones
02-17-2013, 08:18 PM
What do these KU players have in common: Withey, Releford, Johnson, Aldrich, D.Jackson, Morningstar? Averaged less than 3 minutes a game their first year.

Why is everyone concerned about Ellis?

Ceej
02-17-2013, 08:25 PM
Still no word on Randle and Wiggins visit?

Or any other recruits for that matter..

Lzen
02-17-2013, 08:30 PM
he'll be fine

..... people need perspective...but KU fans are spoiled to the point of becoming retarded


Nail........ Head

Chiefs Pantalones
02-17-2013, 08:31 PM
Still no word on Randle and Wiggins visit?

Or any other recruits for that matter..

Haven't heard anything on Randle yet. I heard Wiggins is set to visit in early March.

Chiefs Pantalones
02-17-2013, 08:34 PM
Just heard Wiggins will attend WVU game.

Chiefs Pantalones
02-17-2013, 08:47 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BDPlppxCEAAcYot.jpg:large

Chiefs Pantalones
02-17-2013, 08:51 PM
Self sitting by Randle before the game...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BDPL3LGCUAAUr9D.jpg:large

Ceej
02-17-2013, 08:51 PM
Randle looks at least 43 years old.

Chiefs Pantalones
02-17-2013, 08:53 PM
Randle looks at least 43 years old.

Randle gave the kid on the right permission to hide underneath his shirt.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BDPepqNCIAAq917.jpg:large

Chiefs Pantalones
02-17-2013, 08:54 PM
I heard Greene had to cancel his visit, couldn't get his schedule to work out yesterday.

Ceej
02-17-2013, 08:55 PM
I heard Greene had to cancel his visit, couldn't get his schedule to work out yesterday.

Brannen Greene -- the guy we already have signed right?

Chiefs Pantalones
02-17-2013, 09:15 PM
Brannen Greene -- the guy we already have signed right?

Yeah he had something else going on.

Also heard that Frankamp and Randle sat by each other for a bit last night at the game.

Pants
02-17-2013, 09:43 PM
Perry isn't a typical high schooler. He was a Mickey D and a consensus top-25 recruit. The only 4-time POY in Kansas. A guy who was expected to start day 1. And he's not just having typical FR struggles: he can't catch the ball, can't go up for a layup without being stripped or rejected, looks slow, has zero confidence when he does get it ....... and is just flat surprised by the lateral quickness of defenders at this level.


It may be a problem with his lack of competition in HS but thus far, he looks absolutely terrible. This really can't be denied. Will be turn out ok? He might, I have no idea either way. But let's not sugarcoat his dreadful season.

Your complete and utter lack of perspective is astounding.

Bambi
02-18-2013, 12:46 AM
Just heard Wiggins will attend WVU game.

Get em both. Why not? This is the premiere basketball program in college athletics.

Lzen
02-18-2013, 08:51 AM
Your complete and utter lack of perspective is astounding.

Truth.