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Mr_Tomahawk
03-06-2013, 09:50 PM
Discuss.
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Greg Cosell @gregcosell
I've seen Barkley throw more than 250 passes. He does not drive the ball. His intermediate + deeper throws lose energy on the back end.
http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/article/media_slots/photos/000/753/237/4QPassingNFLDraft_original.jpg?1362596727
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Source: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1554807-nfl-draft-2013-analyzing-geno-smith-and-top-quarterbacks-clutch-statistics
Mr_Tomahawk
03-06-2013, 09:51 PM
Move back into the 2nd rnd and pick up this guy....
http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slides/photos/002/522/577/hi-res-125464095_crop_650x440.jpg?1345444825
BossChief
03-06-2013, 11:07 PM
Genos production in the red zone, in the 4th quarter and on third down is just crazy.
A 132 NFL QB rating in the 4th quarter?
SICK
119 in the red zone?
WOW
Just under 100 rating on third down?
SIGN ME UP.
Direckshun
03-06-2013, 11:09 PM
Move back into the 2nd rnd and pick up this guy....
http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slides/photos/002/522/577/hi-res-125464095_crop_650x440.jpg?1345444825
Honestly, the dude shit his pants throwing to three NFL caliber receivers, two of them are going to be first round picks.
Direckshun
03-06-2013, 11:10 PM
Nassib is the guy I'd love if he lasted to our 3rd rounder.
Direckshun
03-06-2013, 11:12 PM
And that last graph illustrates why nobody in this league likes this year's class.
Faced with the toughest D they've seen all year, each and every one of these guys shit their pants.
World beaters, none of them. Not even Geno.
HoneyBadger
03-06-2013, 11:17 PM
Can we look up previous draft classes?
chiefzilla1501
03-06-2013, 11:26 PM
How many of those stats were either against MIckey Mouse teams or terrible defenses?
cdcox
03-06-2013, 11:28 PM
Move back into the 2nd rnd and pick up this guy....
http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slides/photos/002/522/577/hi-res-125464095_crop_650x440.jpg?1345444825
Can't remember to put in his mouth piece? Deal breaker.
Tribal Warfare
03-06-2013, 11:37 PM
Honestly, the dude shit his pants throwing to three NFL caliber receivers, two of them are going to be first round picks.
He was hardly coached up too, and the 1st round talent WRs have average at best hands to go with all-world athletic ability.
Ace Gunner
03-07-2013, 06:45 AM
And that last graph illustrates why nobody in this league likes this year's class.
Faced with the toughest D they've seen all year, each and every one of these guys shit their pants.
World beaters, none of them. Not even Geno.
yep. that's where Geno fails. but his mistakes are correctable through coaching.
Mr_Tomahawk
03-07-2013, 06:48 AM
Landry is the only one who finished in the top half of those list in each category.
Scary
Mr_Tomahawk
03-07-2013, 06:59 AM
Honestly, the dude shit his pants throwing to three NFL caliber receivers, two of them are going to be first round picks.
Sit him a year or two behind Aelx Smith a'la Favre/Rodgers and let him learn and adjust.
Chiefnj2
03-07-2013, 07:03 AM
Those yards per attempt when tied or trailing up to 7 seem very high.
Ace Gunner
03-07-2013, 07:05 AM
Greg Cosell @gregcosell
I've seen Barkley throw more than 250 passes. He does not drive the ball. His intermediate + deeper throws lose energy on the back end.
oh ya. this guy isn't going to amount to much at the NFL level.
Ace Gunner
03-07-2013, 07:07 AM
Landry is the only one who finished in the top half of those list in each category.
Scary
haterz aren't always smart. with his skills, Landry Jones has a chance to at least become a QB in this league.
Mr_Tomahawk
03-07-2013, 07:08 AM
haterz aren't always smart. with his skills, Landry Jones has a chance to at least become a QB in this league.
Do. Not. Want.
Direckshun
03-07-2013, 07:16 AM
Landry Jones is a smart late round pick if you're a QB needy team that hasn't drafted a QB in the first five rounds.
I'd take him in the 6th or 7th if I'm John Dorsey and I hadn't drafted any QBs yet.
Ace Gunner
03-07-2013, 07:19 AM
Do. Not. Want.
ya. so. water. its wet.
Ace Gunner
03-07-2013, 07:20 AM
Landry Jones is a smart late round pick if you're a QB needy team that hasn't drafted a QB in the first five rounds.
I'd take him in the 6th or 7th if I'm John Dorsey and I hadn't drafted any QBs yet.
he'll be gone by mid 3rd.
mikey23545
03-07-2013, 07:30 AM
Quite frankly, Nassib seems to be the guy who is most consistent throughout.
Mr_Tomahawk
03-07-2013, 07:37 AM
Quite frankly, Nassib seems to be the guy who is most consistent throughout.
There were reports out of the combine that we were not impressed with Nassib or Wilson at all...
CoMoChief
03-07-2013, 07:37 AM
And that last graph illustrates why nobody in this league likes this year's class.
Faced with the toughest D they've seen all year, each and every one of these guys shit their pants.
World beaters, none of them. Not even Geno.
This
Direckshun
03-07-2013, 07:40 AM
he'll be gone by mid 3rd.
Heh.
His tape is awful.
Honestly, it will surprise me if he's drafted.
Goldmember
03-07-2013, 07:44 AM
And that last graph illustrates why nobody in this league likes this year's class.
Faced with the toughest D they've seen all year, each and every one of these guys shit their pants.
World beaters, none of them. Not even Geno.
shhhhh, you weren't supposed to notice that. It's just a flesh wound.
notorious
03-07-2013, 07:58 AM
haterz aren't always smart. with his skills, Landry Jones has a chance to at least become a QB in this league.
He is fine in all catagories except the most important one.
Hammock Parties
03-07-2013, 08:12 AM
Gee, Geno beasting the fuck out of the red zone? Never woulda guessed.
Reerun_KC
03-07-2013, 08:15 AM
There has to be trade value for Cassel.
If you give up a 2nd for the exact same QB as Cassel in Smith. We should get a 2nd or 3rd for Cassel from someone...
Mr_Tomahawk
03-07-2013, 08:16 AM
There has to be trade value for Cassel.
If you give up a 2nd for the exact same QB as Cassel in Smith. We should get a 2nd or 3rd for Cassel from someone...
Teams know we will release him...they will wait rather than waste a pick on him.
suds79
03-07-2013, 08:17 AM
There has to be trade value for Cassel.
If you give up a 2nd for the exact same QB as Cassel in Smith. We should get a 2nd or 3rd for Cassel from someone...
Don't want to make this sound like I'm defending Smith because I'm not really a fan but while it may seem they're the same guy, right now they're on completely different ends.
Smith is coming off a hot year 1/2. Cassel is coming off a steady decline and the worse season of his career.
We got fleeced in the Smith deal. So just because that happened doesn't mean we can expect other teams to be as stupid. I just can't see a team willing to trade for Cassel. We all know he's garbage.
BossChief
03-07-2013, 08:20 AM
And that last graph illustrates why nobody in this league likes this year's class.
Faced with the toughest D they've seen all year, each and every one of these guys shit their pants.
World beaters, none of them. Not even Geno.
It's a concern, that's for sure. IMO I think those defensive coordinators did a good job taking away Bailey and Austin...after those two, there really wasn't any talent on that offense and Dana did a piss poor job of making adjustments to take advantage of the fact that KSU was dropping everyone into coverage.
BossChief
03-07-2013, 08:24 AM
Gee, Geno beasting the fuck out of the red zone? Never woulda guessed.
And the 4th q
mcaj22
03-07-2013, 09:37 AM
yea but these numbers are so inflated playing schools that are fielding high school defenses, that last table tells the true story about all these guys facing their toughest competition they all crapped their pants, that is a red flag and why many are down on this group.
Mr_Tomahawk
03-07-2013, 09:38 AM
Evan Silva@evansilva
After a 5-game study of #USC QB Matt Barkley, ESPN's Merril Hoge calls Barkley a "project" & 3rd- or 4th-round pick: http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/7421/matt-barkley …
RealSNR
03-07-2013, 09:43 AM
Merrill Hoge probably thinks Glennon is the best LMAO
Ace Gunner
03-07-2013, 09:58 AM
chris landry absolutely spilled it on the team, the draft & this year's QB prospects during his interview this morning on 610. they will make the broadcast available later. must listen, needs it's own thread fellas. he nailed it. pioli, reid, dorsey, geno ... all of it.
Reerun_KC
03-07-2013, 10:11 AM
Don't want to make this sound like I'm defending Smith because I'm not really a fan but while it may seem they're the same guy, right now they're on completely different ends.
Smith is coming off a hot year 1/2. Cassel is coming off a steady decline and the worse season of his career.
We got fleeced in the Smith deal. So just because that happened doesn't mean we can expect other teams to be as stupid. I just can't see a team willing to trade for Cassel. We all know he's garbage.
We have to be the dumbest franchise in the history of the NFL...
We make the Al Davis Raiders look like geniuses in comparison.
RealSNR
03-07-2013, 11:05 AM
chris landry absolutely spilled it on the team, the draft & this year's QB prospects during his interview this morning on 610. they will make the broadcast available later. must listen, needs it's own thread fellas. he nailed it. *****, reid, dorsey, geno ... all of it.
How about you summarize it instead of being a bitch?
Mr_Tomahawk
03-07-2013, 11:07 AM
How about you summarize it instead of being a bitch?
He must be getting paid...
Reerun_KC
03-07-2013, 11:13 AM
He must be getting paid...
I think he should bring in some other bottom teir QB like Russel and have a competition between Cassel, Smith and Russel
True fans would be lining up at donation centers with Jars of sperm....
HolyHat
03-07-2013, 11:13 AM
How many of those stats were either against MIckey Mouse teams or terrible defenses?
These are the statements that make me :banghead:
Jesus Effing Christ Dude. It's COLLEGE football! Not the fucking NFL.
Reerun_KC
03-07-2013, 11:15 AM
These are the statements that make me :banghead:
Jesus Effing Christ Dude. It's COLLEGE football! Not the ****ing NFL.
But you have to take Chiefzilla with a grain of salt.
He was Herms biggest support on this board... His football knowledge is maddenesque at best...
Best to ignore his outlandish, I need attention takes...
B14ckmon
03-07-2013, 11:28 AM
Dear lord please let the Chiefs take Tyler "Hope and Pray" Bray
Valiant
03-07-2013, 11:43 AM
Don't want to make this sound like I'm defending Smith because I'm not really a fan but while it may seem they're the same guy, right now they're on completely different ends.
Smith is coming off a hot year 1/2. Cassel is coming off a steady decline and the worse season of his career.
We got fleeced in the Smith deal. So just because that happened doesn't mean we can expect other teams to be as stupid. I just can't see a team willing to trade for Cassel. We all know he's garbage.
Cassel was coming off a hot year also. We were not NE, and we are not SF now. We dont have the team they have. We have pieces, not a set. You have to have balance. Smith does not have the arm to stretch the field.
Everyone wants to say ried is a qb coach guru. But having mcnabs arm and athleticism does not help smith.
Thier moves to date. Say win now. I dont see it. Qb as of this point is still a huge hole. At least with a rookie fans expect growing pains. Smith will be hearing the boos from the half full stadium past the first homegame.
durtyrute
03-07-2013, 11:44 AM
How about you summarize it instead of being a bitch?
He said he likes all of the QB's that have been mentioned on here. Pioli did it the wrong way, but is still good at somethings. Reid is a good QB evaluator. A. Smith may or may not lead us to glory. We will probably take a QB in the later rounds. He would take either Fisher or Jockstrap. He is interested in Star Lickmyballsack, but it depends on medical issues.
durtyrute
03-07-2013, 11:46 AM
Cassel was coming off a hot year also. We were not NE, and we are not SF now. We dont have the team they have. We have pieces, not a set. You have to have balance. Smith does not have the arm to stretch the field.
Everyone wants to say ried is a qb coach guru. But having mcnabs arm and athleticism does not help smith.
Thier moves to date. Say win now. I dont see it. Qb as of this point is still a huge hole. At least with a rookie fans expect growing pains. Smith will be hearing the boos from the half full stadium past the first homegame.
I've been thinking that exact same thing.
HolyHat
03-07-2013, 11:47 AM
He said he likes all of the QB's that have been mentioned on here. ***** did it the wrong way, but is still good at somethings. Reid is a good QB evaluator. A. Smith may or may not lead us to glory. We will probably take a QB in the later rounds. He would take either Fisher or Jockstrap. He is interested in Star Lickmyballsack, but it depends on medical issues.
You misspeled "Littletitty"
Ace Gunner
03-07-2013, 11:54 AM
How about you summarize it instead of being a bitch?
heh, look bitch, I did summarize -- I'm working too much to go details. now shut your piehole and listen to this dude put the day str8 vvvvv
http://www.610sports.com/topic/play_window.php?audioType=Episode&audioId=6271140
Ace Gunner
03-07-2013, 11:58 AM
I've been thinking that exact same thing.
well stop that -- because McNabb is the worst QB to ever play a SB
Setsuna
03-07-2013, 12:00 PM
Move back into the 2nd rnd and pick up this guy....
http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slides/photos/002/522/577/hi-res-125464095_crop_650x440.jpg?1345444825
Kill yourself.
htismaqe
03-07-2013, 12:08 PM
How about you summarize it instead of being a bitch?
Chris Landry was a scout in Tennessee and CLEVELAND (yep, with Pioli). He's not currently employed by an NFL team - he's a "consultant".
In other words, don't waste your time wondering what he thinks.
He was hardly coached up too, and the 1st round talent WRs have average at best hands to go with all-world athletic ability.
his situation in college, reminds me a lot of cutlers. I believe he could be unleashed in the pros.
Him and glennon are my two that i am most interested in.
well stop that -- because McNabb is the worst QB to ever play a SB
worst than dilfer or rex grossman? or how about stan humphries?
Ace Gunner
03-07-2013, 02:04 PM
worst than dilfer or rex grossman? or how about stan humphries?
dilfer had crap at WR, Rex too.. Stan Humphries looks like Brett Favre compared with McNabb.
McNabb = big arm, bad accuracy, even worse timing. he was Matty C with a big arm and shorter legs.
BossChief
03-07-2013, 02:28 PM
dilfer had crap at WR, Rex too.. Stan Humphries looks like Brett Favre compared with McNabb.
McNabb = big arm, bad accuracy, even worse timing. he was Matty C with a big arm and shorter legs.
Hahaha
The one year McNabb had a real receiver, they made the superbowl.
Dude took the Eagles to like 5 NFC Championship games with guys like Todd Pinkston and Fred Barnett.
Comparing his to guys like Dilfer is flat out retarded.
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