Reid says Geno not out of consideration for No. 1 overall

[Fire Me Boy!]

Ian Rapoport @RapSheet
Andy Reid says he'll evaluate 8-10 players for No. 1 pick. Asked why Alex over Geno Smith: "Doesn't mean Geno is out of the water." Smiles.

[Mr_Tomahawk]

More Geno threads!

[Fire Me Boy!]

More Geno threads!

It's my first! PBJ

[Mr_Tomahawk]

oh..and of course he is going to say this. Does this surprise anyone?

He is just trying to generate buzz for the #1 pick to trade down.

[ThatRaceCardGuy]

oh..and of course he is going to say this. Does this surprise anyone?

He is just trying to generate buzz for the #1 pick to trade down.

Exactly.

[ptlyon]

oh..and of course he is going to say this. Does this surprise anyone?

He is just trying to generate buzz for the #1 pick to trade down.

No. Hes. Not. :deevee:

[Dartgod]

http://kentuckybasketballforum.com/uploads/images/so-youre-telling-me-theres-a-chance.jpg

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Alex
Chase
Geno

[mr. tegu]

http://kentuckybasketballforum.com/uploads/images/so-youre-telling-me-theres-a-chance.jpg

LMAO

[MahiMike]

or IS he?

:Peace:

[DMAC]

Oh Andy you sly badass you.

[Molitoth]

As much as I want it to happen, it's not going to.

[Chiefs=Champions]

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[BigCatDaddy]

Such as dick tease.

[Chiefspants]

oh..and of course he is going to say this. Does this surprise anyone?

He is just trying to generate buzz for the #1 pick to trade down.

Actually, the claims over Joeackelele were the red herring. GENO FO LIF

[Graystoke]

First I am hard, then I go limp....NOW I AM HARD AGAIN!

[okcchief]

Stop playing with my fucking emotions Andy Reid!!!!

:)

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

Yeah, lets draft a player that won't even see the field. Dumbasses !

[Pasta Little Brioni]

If it happens it really would be the...best...offseason.....EVER!!

[mdchiefsfan]

Yeah, lets draft a player that won't even see the field. Dumbasses !

I'd do that sooner than draft a damn RT

[jspchief]

I still believe Geno is a possibility. ASmith is only inked for 2 years. Until that changes, I believe he could be meant to hold the spot while Reid develops Geno.

I think its possible that contract talks with Albert will be the compass for what the team does. If they feel like they can get him for what they want to pay, they examine positions other than T at 1.1

Do I think Geno is top of their board at this instant? No. But I don't believe they have decided yet what they will do, and it hinges on several factors.

[RealSNR]

It's my first! PBJ

Alright! C'mere, son! Let me buy you a beer!

[mr. tegu]

Yeah, lets draft a player that won't even see the field. Dumbasses !

In a real QB competition Geno beats Alex Smith.

[RealSNR]

Hopefully this "evaluation period" is when Reid figures out that Joeckel actually sucks.

[Thig Lyfe]

We have a bad track record when it comes to fat coaches smiling and/or winking coyly about drafting a QB.

[DTLB58]

In a real QB competition Geno beats Alex Smith.

You know, this may be true. But did you see the man love Andy showed for Smith at that presser?

Plus, the Chiefs did not give up the picks they did to bring in a rookie for open competition. Especially, after Andy said at that Presser "Listen, Alex Smith is the starting QB of the Kansas City Chiefs".

[Fansy the Famous Bard]

Just to stick it in our craw, they'll draft Geno... then 30 minutes after drafting him we'll find out he's been traded.

[MOhillbilly]

Please god let us trade out of the 1-1 and get value, please!

[splatbass]

First I am hard, then I go limp....NOW I AM HARD AGAIN!

Not that there is anything wrong with that.

[Chiefspants]

Just to stick it in our craw, they'll draft Geno... then 30 minutes after drafting him we'll find out he's been traded.

This forum would implode via shots of antifreeze in this scenario.

[splatbass]

In a real QB competition Geno beats Alex Smith.

No one knows that. No one can know that.

[seaofred]

Guys, I think Reid just said that to help with a trade down. I hope I'm wrong, but I don't see it.

[Saccopoo]

Yeah, lets draft a player that won't even see the field. Dumbasses !

In all honesty, drafting an OT (Joeckel/Fisher) doesn't mean that they are going to see the field anymore than drafting Geno. Albert is definitely going to play and Stephenson has all the tools. (IMO, if Big Don stayed in school this past season, there wouldn't be any Lane Johnson talk at all. Stephenson is a very athletic, big and talented OT. He'd be in the discussion for the top tackle taken this year if he was in this draft class.)

Besides, Smith does have the concussion issue and is 29 years old, and we all know that Daniel is a third string guy. Period.

Drafting Geno gives Reid and Alex Smith the chance to mentor him for one or two years without the pressure of having him produce right from the get go.

Remember this guy named Aaron Rogers who kinda sat behind this other dude for a couple of years and then kicked ass? Same situation.

[Deberg_1990]

I anxiously await the first "Why not Chance Warmack at #1?" thread......

[Dave Lane]

Alex
Chase
Geno

Geno
Alex
Chase

Fixed it

[Dave Lane]

I anxiously await the first "Why not Chance Warmack at #1?" thread......

Just take a Chance!

[Saul Good]

Just to stick it in our craw, they'll draft Geno... then 30 minutes after drafting him we'll find out he's been traded.

We'll trade Geno and a third rounder to Oakland for their third overall pick so that we can draft a LT.

[Messier]

In a real QB competition Geno beats Alex Smith.

Geno has a stronger are, and is probably more athletic, other than that, I don't know this to be true at all.

[keg in kc]

oh..and of course he is going to say this. Does this surprise anyone?

He is just trying to generate buzz for the #1 pick to trade down.Yup.

[splatbass]

Daniel is a third string guy. Period.



Period? Really? He was second string in NO and is currently second string here.

Hyperbole doesn't serve you well.

[ChiefMojo]

Just stirring the pot for a trade down.

That smiling/smirk of his gave it away imo.

[Saccopoo]

I anxiously await the first "Why not Chance Warmack at #1?" thread......

See this?:

http://www.thesraid.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/burningxmastree.jpg

It's a flaming AIDS tree. Take a branch and shove it up your ass.

[MMXcalibur]

I can't take this. I'm putting football on the shelf until the end of April.

[dallaschiefsfan]

Posturing aside, I can see this happening. If they don't get a good offer to trade down, why not take Geno? He will probably be as valuable on our QB depth chart as he is when he gets drafted in most cases. Hell...think of the stupidity of those that would trade a high draft pick for Mallet (or Alex Smith :banghead:). Who knows what we might get offered for Geno (or Chase or Alex) next year prior to the draft. I hope we collect QB's that other teams might want. It's the currency of the NFL. Andy Reid IS the guy that turned Kevin freakin' Kolb into a 2nd round pick (and DRC). So yeah...draft Geno if nobody gives us what we think the 1.1 pick is worth.

[Saccopoo]

Period? Really? He was second string in NO and is currently second string here.

Hyperbole doesn't serve you well.

Hyperbole is my life philosophy.

And he's a giant ball of midget suckery.

This was the New Orleans QB lineup last year:

http://losersbracket.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/LollipopGuild.jpg

[InChiefsHeaven]

If we draft Geno after all of this (and I can't see a good reason not too) I will be full on hard core homer mode!!

[RealSNR]

Period? Really? He was second string in NO and is currently second string here.

Hyperbole doesn't serve you well.

2nd string QBs on great QB teams:

Jim Sorgi
Curtis Painter
Graham Harrell
Matt Cassel

And the list goes on and on.

Teams do that because when you have a franchise starter (like Brees in New Orleans) it does little good to invest all that much money or that high of a draft pick in your backup. It's not a universal strategy, but it is quite common.

And we just gave one of those turds a bunch of money to actually play in the event of an injury to Alex Smith (which tends to happen every season, if only for a few games).

[Dave Lane]

Period? Really? He was second string in NO and is currently second string here.

Hyperbole doesn't serve you well.

He's hot garbage may not even make the team if we draft Geno.

[Saul Good]

Let's look at it from Andy Reid's perspective. If he thinks Alex has the goods and he sees nobody worth the 1.1 pick, and nobody wants to trade, he should take Geno and just sit him for a year or two while talking him up.

If Alex is good enough for an extension, he can probably trade Geno down the road for at least a first rounder and change. Look at what he got for Kolb.

[Discuss Thrower]

Let's look at it from Andy Reid's perspective. If he thinks Alex has the goods and he sees nobody worth the 1.1 pick, and nobody wants to trade, he should take Geno and just sit him for a year or two while talking him up.

If Alex is good enough for an extension, he can probably trade Geno down the road for at least a first rounder and change. Look at what he got for Kolb.

Thisthisthisthis.

[RealSNR]

He's hot garbage may not even make the team if we draft Geno.

Baby Ricky says, "That's MY 3rd string spot, bitch!"

[Direckshun]

http://kentuckybasketballforum.com/uploads/images/so-youre-telling-me-theres-a-chance.jpg

There may never have been a more appropriate use of that quote.

[silver5liter]

Geno has a stronger are, and is probably more athletic, other than that, I don't know this to be true at all.

Hes got a stronger arm, more athletic, better accuracy, better decision making. Other than that though, idk

[Saul Good]

2nd string QBs on great QB teams:

Jim Sorgi
Curtis Painter
Graham Harrell
Matt Cassel

And the list goes on and on.

Teams do that because when you have a franchise starter (like Brees in New Orleans) it does little good to invest all that much money or that high of a draft pick in your backup. It's not a universal strategy, but it is quite common.

And we just gave one of those turds a bunch of money to actually play in the event of an injury to Alex Smith (which tends to happen every season, if only for a few games).

Aaron Rodgers
Philip Rivers
Steve Young

[Saul Good]

Why does everyone talk about Geno being a better athlete than Alex? He isn't. Alex is an excellent athlete. Geno isn't.

[Messier]

2nd string QBs on great QB teams:

Jim Sorgi
Curtis Painter
Graham Harrell
Matt Cassel

And the list goes on and on.

Teams do that because when you have a franchise starter (like Brees in New Orleans) it does little good to invest all that much money or that high of a draft pick in your backup. It's not a universal strategy, but it is quite common.

And we just gave one of those turds a bunch of money to actually play in the event of an injury to Alex Smith (which tends to happen every season, if only for a few games).
Why is Daniel a turd?

[Saccopoo]

Why does everyone talk about Geno being a better athlete than Alex? He isn't. Alex is an excellent athlete. Geno isn't.

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[DTLB58]

Just stirring the pot for a trade down.

That smiling/smirk of his gave it away imo.

DP was talking this morning how the Browns screwed up not getting RG3 and now how he is hearing how the Browns are verrrry interested in Geno....

[Saccopoo]

Why is Daniel a turd?

Because he's 5'3", 317 lbs. and sucks.

That's a hot turd.

[Messier]

Hes got a stronger arm, more athletic, better accuracy, better decision making. Other than that though, idk

I'd argue better accuracy and decision making. Why is Geno better?

[RealSNR]

Why is Daniel a turd?

He's a mystery box. Until we open up that box and find out what's inside, it must be assumed that Chase Daniel is both a turd and not a turd.

But undrafted guy from spread offense with inadequate height and arm strength? Most likely a turd. Russell Wilson he ain't.

Hell, Doug Flutie he ain't.

[RunKC]

Reid playing the smart move to get a trade down. Nice!

[boogblaster]

ok ... Reid isnt taking Geno ... he's taking a OLman ... so cry yourselfs to sleep .....

[Messier]

Because he's 5'3", 317 lbs. and sucks.

That's a hot turd.

Can't argue that well reasoned argument.

[Discuss Thrower]

DP was talking this morning how the Browns screwed up not getting RG3 and now how he is hearing how the Browns are verrrry interested in Geno....

KC ----> Gets #6, #68 and a 2014 Second Rounder ... and maybe Colt McCoy (zomg UT and MU QBs.. Big12 pride)
CLE ----> Gets #1 ???

[Contrarian]

I don't understand why you guys think we would move down to accumulate later draft picks when we acquired two compensatory picks already. one in the 3rd and one in the
6th.

[silver5liter]

Why does everyone talk about Geno being a better athlete than Alex? He isn't. Alex is an excellent athlete. Geno isn't.

Geno only runs faster, jumps higher, and jumps further. You're right.

[Saccopoo]

I'd argue better accuracy and decision making. Why is Geno better?

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[Messier]

He's a mystery box. Until we open up that box and find out what's inside, it must be assumed that Chase Daniel is both a turd and not a turd.

But undrafted guy from spread offense with inadequate height and arm strength? Most likely a turd. Russell Wilson he ain't.

Hell, Doug Flutie he ain't.

I'm not arguing he's starter material, but he was considered one of the better FA backup options. He's a preseason warrior. I know that doesn't mean much, but I think my reasons for why he's a good viable backup option, makes better sense than some here and the argument that he sucks, because he sucks.

[ptlyon]

Geno only runs faster, jumps higher, and jumps further. You're right.

It's the shoes

[The Franchise]

Andy Reid heard the comparison of Geno Smith to Donovan McNabb and he got hard.

[Messier]

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Hey, some gifs of some good throws by Geno. Have any of his bad ones? How about a gif of him pouting on the sideline because they're losing?

I'm sure there are some comparable highlights of Alex Smith from college.

[The Franchise]

Alex Smith:

40 - 4.71
Vertical - 32
Broad Jump - 9.4

Geno Smith:

40 - 4.59
Vertical - 33.5
Broad Jump - 10.4

[Mr. Laz]

means nothing ....... either way


we have no idea what they are really thinking. Their moves indicate OT at #1 but who the hell knows.

What any team says at this time of the year is worthless.

[The Franchise]

means nothing ....... either way


we have no idea what they are really thinking. Their moves indicate OT at #1 but who the hell knows.

What any team says at this time of the year is worthless.

All of their moves do not indicated OT at #1. It indicates that they really want to trade down.

[Direckshun]

Andy Reid heard the comparison of Geno Smith to Donovan McNabb and he got hard.

That is creepy and weird.

[jd1020]

All of their moves do not indicated OT at #1. It indicates that they really want to trade down.

However, there are no indications that a trade down is even possible.

[Saccopoo]

Hey, some gifs of some good throws by Geno. Have any of his bad ones? How about a gif of him pouting on the sideline because they're losing?

I'm sure there are some comparable highlights of Alex Smith from college.

Boo fucking hoo.

And just to let you know, I'm a big Alex Smith fan going back to his college days. He's pretty athletic, accurate and very smart. He protects the ball well in the passing game.

However, he has limited arm strength that doesn't allow him to take the top off the defense and throw the receiver open.

He's the same guy as Sam Bradford. That's it. And he's most likely maxed out, i.e., what you saw in 2012 from Alex Smith is as good as it's ever going to get.

Geno has the ability to rip off 45 yarders into double coverage and put it right into his receivers hands. He does it regularly. With pressure. Alex Smith cannot make those throws. He doesn't make those throws. He's a dink and dunk game manager. Period.

And he doesn't make many bad throws whatsoever. All of his passes from 2012 are on YouTube. Go watch the complete games from the entire season. Geno does as good a job protecting the ball in the passing game as I've ever seen anyone do at the college level.

[suds79]

Can we just put this Geno stuff to bed? It's a done deal.

The Chiefs have made their evaluation of him. They don't think he's worth #1. There's a lot of fans here who do. Or think it's worth the risk.

Now we just sit back and find out over the next few years.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

I anxiously await the first "Why not Chance Warmack at #1?" thread......

Where have you been? We've already had it.

[nychief]

...Reid said, giggling to himself.

[Mr. Laz]

All of their moves do not indicated OT at #1. It indicates that they really want to trade down.They have made offseason moves that have left an starting spot at OT open in a draft where offensive line is supposedly one of the strongest positions.

They have traded 2 draft picks for a starting QB and spent 3 million for a backup QB. They have signed 2 cornerbacks and a wide receiver.

Will they trade down ... maybe, i imagine any team in the top 5 would consider trading down in this draft.

But their personnel moves indicate a OT at #1, unless you think they are drafting a MLB at 1.

[B14ckmon]

Are we in for a potential 3rd geno induced CP meltdown come draft day after they pass on him?!?!?!

[ptlyon]

Are we in for a potential 3rd geno induced CP meltdown come draft day after they pass on him?!?!?!

Inevitable

[Bwana]

He's just trying to drive the trade down price up.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

When the Eagles leapfrog the Jags for Geno what do you do then?

[jd1020]

When the Eagles leapfrog the Jags for Geno what do you do then?

I don't get the Geno to Eagles theory. He doesn't really fit Chip Kelly's offense.

[Hammock Parties]

You son of a bitch walrus.

[The Franchise]

They have made offseason moves that have left an starting spot at OT open in a draft where offensive line is supposedly one of the strongest positions.

They have traded 2 draft picks for a starting QB and spent 3 million for a backup QB. They have signed 2 cornerbacks and a wide receiver.

Will they trade down ... maybe, i imagine any team in the top 5 would consider trading down in this draft.

But their personnel moves indicate a OT at #1, unless you think they are drafting a MLB at 1.

As it stands right now (unless they trade him)....they have a hole at RT. They now have an OG/OT in Geoff Schwartz who has played RT before but will probably take over at OG. Allen played both LT and RT in college. TBG's source also stated that they view Allen as a RT.

What they have done is basically filled almost all of their needs so that they can go BPA. It's all going to come down to Reid and Dorsey though. They may view Geno as BPA....they may not.

And the picks/money they spent on QB already still do not eliminate Geno. The numbers have already been posted....but all 3 QBs would only cost them $14 million.

[Saul Good]

Alex Smith:

40 - 4.71
Vertical - 32
Broad Jump - 9.4

Geno Smith:

40 - 4.59
Vertical - 33.5
Broad Jump - 10.4

I believe those are Geno's unofficial stats. Combine stars are almost always worse.

[keg in kc]

This whole idea about "who's better, Geno or Alex" is the wrong way to look at it. It's not about who's better. That's impossible to know, because one of them has never been on an NFL field. It's all about risk and reward. Geno Smith is an unknown quantity, just like every QB who has ever headed into the draft. Some people see that as a negative, because it's an inherent gamble. Other people see that as a positive, because there's at least a remote chance for greatness there, in comparison to an established player like Alex Smith, who as a known quantity has limits which are well-defined by this point, and he's never going beyond them. So the question, then, comes down to whether it's better to go with the unspectacular but seemingly "safe" choice in Alex Smith, or to take a chance on an unknown like Geno Smith, who could be much more, but could also be somewhat less, depending on how it goes.

I think at some point you have to take that chance. Unfortunately I'm a fan of a franchise that seems to disagree.

[B14ckmon]

When the Eagles leapfrog the Jags for Geno what do you do then?

Dion Jordan. I'm not a QB fan girl, I'm a fan of my team.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

I don't get the Geno to Eagles theory. He doesn't really fit Chip Kelly's offense.

Uhh, he's going to have to adjust it a wee bit for NFL success. Dennis Dixon and Fasoli's or whatever the dude's name was isn't going to cut it.

[Mr. Laz]

...Reid said, giggling to himself.
^

this ... he's already starting to amuse himself by fucking with Chiefs' Nation.

[The Franchise]

I believe those are Geno's unofficial stats. Combine stars are almost always worse.

No....they're not.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Dion Jordan. I'm not a QB fan girl, I'm a fan of my team.

So, you are still a 2-4 win team for the near future then with no hope. Cool.

[jd1020]

Uhh, he's going to have to adjust it a wee bit for NFL success. Dennis Dixon and Fasoli's or whatever the dude's name was isn't going to cut it.

Changing his offense a "wee bit" is not the same as doing a complete 180.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Changing his offense a "wee bit" is not the same as doing a complete 180.

He's going to need a guy that can make plays in the pocket and is mobile. Geno is both. I would find it hilarious if he envisions a Dixon type tearing shit up in this league though, heh.

[B14ckmon]

So, you are still a 2-4 win team for the near future then with no hope. Cool.

We are rebuilding. Of course there is hope. It's not like we traded for a game manager QB that we will be stuck with.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

We are rebuilding. Of course there is hope. It's not like we traded for a game manager QB that we will be stuck with.

Under contract for 2 years. They can easily go QB this year or next. A one and 2-twos is NOT too much to spend on hedging your bets at the position.

[B14ckmon]

Under contract for 2 years. They can easily go QB this year or next. A one and 2-twos is NOT too much to spend on hedging your bets at the position.

You'll disagree when Geno goes elsewhere and dominates :)

[Chief_For_Life58]

Uhh, he's going to have to adjust it a wee bit for NFL success. Dennis Dixon and Fasoli's or whatever the dude's name was isn't going to cut it.

oh man fazolis italian is fucking good. amiright? I get the slice of pizza as my side

[Pasta Little Brioni]

oh man fazolis italian is fucking good. amiright? I get the slice of pizza as my side

:D

[B14ckmon]

I get the sampler from Fazolis.

[Saccopoo]

They have made offseason moves that have left an starting spot at OT open in a draft where offensive line is supposedly one of the strongest positions.

They have traded 2 draft picks for a starting QB and spent 3 million for a backup QB. They have signed 2 cornerbacks and a wide receiver.

Will they trade down ... maybe, i imagine any team in the top 5 would consider trading down in this draft.

But their personnel moves indicate a OT at #1, unless you think they are drafting a MLB at 1.

Who said OT is one of the strongest positions?

It's not deep at all and the top guys aren't elite level prospects by any measure.

2011 was a very good year for tackle prospects.

2010 was a very good year for tackle prospects.

2008 was a very good year for tackle prospects.

There is nobody that jumps off the charts this year and it's not that deep a class in terms of quality.

Personally, I think the best OT prospect in this class is Barrett Jones. Most of these other guys have a lot of warts or just have under performed.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Only the Chiefs would piss away the number one overall pick on a position that was very strong despite winning only 2 games.

[Mr. Laz]

Who said OT is one of the strongest positions?

It's not deep at all and the top guys aren't elite level prospects by any measure.

2011 was a very good year for tackle prospects.

2010 was a very good year for tackle prospects.

2008 was a very good year for tackle prospects.

There is nobody that jumps off the charts this year and it's not that deep a class in terms of quality.

Personally, I think the best OT prospect in this class is Barrett Jones. Most of these other guys have a lot of warts or just have under performed.
sup·pos·ed·ly
/səˈpōzidlē/
Adverb
According to what is generally assumed or believed (often used to indicate that the speaker doubts the truth of the statement).
Synonyms
presumably - presumedly

[RunKC]

Nobody in this draft is elite.

When are people gonna understand this?

[King_Chief_Fan]

We are rebuilding. Of course there is hope. It's not like we traded for a game manager QB that we will be stuck with.

you have much worse than A. Smith ......you are stuck with Gabbert

[NJChiefsFan]

Nobody in this draft is elite.

When are people gonna understand this?

Nobody knows what prospects will turn into. You call out people for speaking in abslolutes, rightfully so, but often do the same. You don't know anymore than we do.

[ChiefMojo]

But it does get old having many throw it down your throat that Geno is the second coming of Manning/Luck... it works both ways. Heck I support Geno as well but it does get old quick.

[B14ckmon]

you have much worse than A. Smith ......you are stuck with Gabbert

How are we stuck with him?

[BigCatDaddy]

But it does get old having many throw it down your throat that Geno is the second coming of Manning/Luck... it works both ways. Heck I support Geno as well but it does get old quick.

2nd coming in what way?

[The Franchise]

But it does get old having many throw it down your throat that Geno is the second coming of Manning/Luck... it works both ways. Heck I support Geno as well but it does get old quick.

Who the fuck has ever stated that Geno Smith is the 2nd coming of Manning or Luck?

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Who the fuck has ever stated that Geno Smith is the 2nd coming of Manning or Luck?

Exactly. If anything it's the opposite. Tru Fans say we can't take him cause he isn't a Manning or Luck. We just call them morons and compare him to other good prospects that have come out.

[Otter]

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[B14ckmon]

We got new jerseys and Geno is coming. Feel free to jump ship to the Seahawks South.

[King_Chief_Fan]

How are we stuck with him?

When does his contract expire? Have you cut him yet?
Have you made any trades? You picking one in the draft?

[Mr_Tomahawk]

Jim Corbett‏@ByJimCorbett
Andy Reid: 'A couple of teams' have shown interest in first pick http://usat.ly/16H5zXx via @USATODAY

[B14ckmon]

When does his contract expire? Have you cut him yet?
Have you made any trades? You picking one in the draft?

Why would we cut him? We will need a backup when we take Geno.

[Bewbies]

Jim Corbett‏@ByJimCorbett
Andy Reid: 'A couple of teams' have shown interest in first pick http://usat.ly/16H5zXx via @USATODAY

Geno not worth the pick even though multiple teams want to trade up for him...

[Pasta Little Brioni]

You'll go by M@nue/ at the end of the draft.

[King_Chief_Fan]

Why would we cut him? We will need a backup when we take Geno.

you will need a kings ransom to get him...Chiefs will pick him at 1.1 and then let the bartering begin.

You gave a 1 and a 2 for Gabbert. No telling what you will have to give to get Geno.

[WV]

I would totally take back all my negative talk if they actually draft Geno!

[B14ckmon]

you will need a kings ransom to get him...Chiefs will pick him at 1.1 and then let the bartering begin.

You gave a 1 and a 2 for Gabbert. No telling what you will have to give to get Geno.

I don't think you understand how it works. That was to trade from 16 to 10. Much different than just swapping 1st and 2nd.

[BigCatDaddy]

I don't think you understand how it works. That was to trade from 16 to 10. Much different than just swapping 1st and 2nd.

When 1st is Geno Smith and 2nd is Luke Jackoff it will cost.

[King_Chief_Fan]

I don't think you understand how it works. That was to trade from 16 to 10. Much different than just swapping 1st and 2nd.
yes, I know that....still too much for Gabbert don't you think?

[B14ckmon]

yes, I know that....still too much for Gabbert don't you think?

I fucking despised the Gabbert pick. So yes. There is a reason why Gene Smith is unemployed.

[Reerun_KC]

Geno not worth the pick even though multiple teams want to trade up for him...

This line of thinking is why teams like the Chiefs are the Chiefs.

[Lex Luthor]

Aaron Rodgers
Philip Rivers
Steve Young
I hope you're right.

[Lex Luthor]

Geno not worth the pick even though multiple teams want to trade up for him...
I assume you are being sarcastic.

[OrtonsPiercedTaint]

Are we in for a potential 3rd geno induced CP meltdown come draft day after they pass on him?!?!?!

It would be less sickening/disgusting then 80% of the fan base that loves an OT. They well swoon no matter what the Chiefs do. Anything less is high treason.

[Dr. Van Halen]

It would be less sickening/disgusting then 80% of the fan base that loves an OT. They well swoon no matter what the Chiefs do. Anything less is high treason.

I don't know that I'll swoon no matter what they do, but I am willing to concede that Andy Freaking Reid probably knows more about quarterbacks than fans. Considering the moves Reid has made at the start of free agency (how long have we wanted the Chiefs to make moves at the START of free agency?!), I am willing to give him some fudging credit, for the love of fudge.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Same was said about Scooter.

[mr. tegu]

I don't know that I'll swoon no matter what they do, but I am willing to concede that Andy Freaking Reid probably knows more about quarterbacks than fans. Considering the moves Reid has made at the start of free agency (how long have we wanted the Chiefs to make moves at the START of free agency?!), I am willing to give him some fudging credit, for the love of fudge.

But he apparently doesn't know a whole lot about the offensive line considering he seems bent on turning our line into the crap fest that was Philly's o-line.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Two Top 10 tackles on their respective sides and they want to blow it up. Smart...heh

[In58men]

Nobody in this draft is elite.

When are people gonna understand this?

@caplannfl: Lot to like based on talent level/production. No QB is ever perfect coming out of college. RT @CPassio: @caplannfl Thoughts on Geno Smith??



Adam Caplan is a smart man unlike some posters here. Nobody is "elite" coming out of college.

[DaneMcCloud]

@caplannfl: Lot to like based on talent level/production. No QB is ever perfect coming out of college. RT @CPassio: @caplannfl Thoughts on Geno Smith??



Adam Caplan is a smart man unlike some posters here. Nobody is "elite" coming out of college.

Yeah, that Andrew Luck guy sucked.

So did Marino and Elway. Complete crap.

[The Franchise]

Yeah, that Andrew Luck guy sucked

Yeah....one guy in how many fucking years?

[DaneMcCloud]

Yeah....one guy in how many fucking years?

Read his post: He says NO ONE IS ELITE.

Is that true?

No, it's not.

[In58men]

Yeah, that Andrew Luck guy sucked.

So did Marino and Elway. Complete crap.

Who said they sucked? Every QB has flaws, that was the purpose of Adams tweet, read it next time you stupid ****

[BossChief]

Aaron Rodgers
Tom Brady
Donovan McNabb
Colin Kaepernick

All of these guys sat behind a vet to start their careers.

[Dr. Van Halen]

But he apparently doesn't know a whole lot about the offensive line considering he seems bent on turning our line into the crap fest that was Philly's o-line.

Explain what he has done to turn our line into a crap fest. He cut Winston and franchised Albert. Both good moves.

I was under the impression that the Eagles' o-line woes were due to injury.

[DaneMcCloud]

Who said they sucked? Every QB has flaws, read the tweet you stupid fuck

I read what YOU said, moron.

[DaneMcCloud]

Aaron Rodgers
Tom Brady
Donovan McNabb
Colin Kaepernick

All of these guys sat behind a vet to start their careers.

Who cares?

[saphojunkie]

Yeah....one guy in how many ****ing years?

Actually, I'd have to argue that there were three guys in one year. Anyone who didn't realize that Wilson and RG3 were elite as well was just blind.

Seriously, every single GM that didn't already have a QB and passed on Wilson should have been fired this offseason. Come to think of it, which of them wasn't?

[Messier]

Two Top 10 tackles on their respective sides and they want to blow it up. Smart...heh

Albert is still here, so they haven't blown both up yet. I'd like to to know why Winston was cut. There has to be something to it. I don't believe it was that he's standing in the way of us taking a OT. There had to be something to it.

[Nightfyre]

Yeah, that Andrew Luck guy sucked.

So did Marino and Elway. Complete crap.

Marino had huge question marks, Dane. Jesus. You name two QBs from 30 years apart and even they weren't "perfect prospects" according to the "experts."

[mr. tegu]

Explain what he has done to turn our line into a crap fest. He cut Winston and franchised Albert. Both good moves.

I was under the impression that the Eagles' o-line woes were due to injury.

How is cutting Winston a good move? How is franchising Albert and possibly trading him a good move? You would be replacing proven OTs with unproven players.

[In58men]

I read what YOU said, moron.

If you read then your reply made zero sense or maybe you're just that ****ing ignorant.

[The Franchise]

Actually, I'd have to argue that there were three guys in one year. Anyone who didn't realize that Wilson and RG3 were elite as well was just blind.

Seriously, every single GM that didn't already have a QB and passed on Wilson should have been fired this offseason. Come to think of it, which of them wasn't?

Oh quit it with the fucking hindsight bullshit with Russell Wilson. He's so elite that 32 teams passed on him for 2 rounds.

And RGIII had flaws....just like Andrew Luck had a flaw or two.

[DaneMcCloud]

Actually, I'd have to argue that there were three guys in one year. Anyone who didn't realize that Wilson and RG3 were elite as well was just blind.

Seriously, every single GM that didn't already have a QB and passed on Wilson should have been fired this offseason. Come to think of it, which of them wasn't?

What about Cam Newton? He only set the rookie passing record in 2011, which was broken by Andrew Luck in 2012. Newton's already amassed 62 TD's in 32 games.

62 TD's in 32 games. That's insane.

But, I forgot. No one is "elite" coming out of college.

[DaneMcCloud]

Oh quit it with the fucking hindsight bullshit with Russell Wilson. He's so elite that 32 teams passed on him for 2 rounds.

And RGIII had flaws....just like Andrew Luck had a flaw or two.

Andrew Luck's only flaw is his speaking voice.

That dude is the most complete pocket passer to ever enter the NFL.

[The Franchise]

What about Cam Newton? He only set the rookie passing record in 2011, which was broken by Andrew Luck in 2012. Newton's already amassed 62 TD's in 32 games.

62 TD's in 32 games. That's insane.

But, I forgot. No one is "elite" coming out of college.

Cam Newton had 1 year of starting experience and was a cocky asshole.

[Nightfyre]

Cam Newton was considered a REACH at number one back in the day. Damn. Dane is viewing history through tinted lenses.

[mr. tegu]

Some of these rookies are elite prospects, but they are not yet elite QBs.

[The Franchise]

Cam Newton was so elite that weeks before the draft.......Carolina kept getting mocked Nick Fairley or DaQuan Bowers.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Oh quit it with the fucking hindsight bullshit with Russell Wilson. He's so elite that 32 teams passed on him for 2 rounds.

And RGIII had flaws....just like Andrew Luck had a flaw or two.

This. I don't remeber seeing all these CP Nostradumbasses pining for Wilson last year. Yeah, there may have been a couple, but he wasn't some can't miss guy that the board was going gaga over.

[The Franchise]

Nevermind.....keep waiting for that elite QB to come out.

[DaneMcCloud]

Cam Newton was so elite that weeks before the draft.......Carolina kept getting mocked Nick Fairley or DaQuan Bowers.

So, does that negate his rookie season? Does that negate the fact that he was taken #1 overall?

Mocks don't mean fucking shit. You should know that by now.

[In58men]

Nevermind.....keep waiting for that elite QB to come out.

He better have zero ints.


If he has 1 there is a flaw.

[RunKC]

Nobody knows what prospects will turn into. You call out people for speaking in abslolutes, rightfully so, but often do the same. You don't know anymore than we do.

Let me rephrase. There are no elite prospects in this draft.

[Reerun_KC]

Let me rephrase. There are no elite prospects in this draft.

You are basing this off of?

Talking heads on TV or your own professional analysis?

[The Franchise]

So, does that negate his rookie season? Does that negate the fact that he was taken #1 overall?

Mocks don't mean fucking shit. You should know that by now.

I'm not talking about his stats in the NFL.

Cam Newton was not considered "elite" coming out college. He had warts the size of oranges.

[Dr. Van Halen]

How is cutting Winston a good move? How is franchising Albert and possibly trading him a good move? You would be replacing proven OTs with unproven players.

Possibly trading him? You can't evaluate based on the myriad rumors circulating. Franchising Albert was a good move.

Was cutting Winston was a bad move? It's hard to tell. I'm guessing they had a reason to do it -- it was definitely a personal choice by the coach. Again, I defer to the man with coaching experience.

[Cmd'r&Chief]

Andy Reid is being a cock tease

[Imon Yourside]

Geno #1 overall to the Chiefs, count on it.

[Easy 6]

Because he's 5'3", 317 lbs. and sucks.

That's a hot turd.

I admit to never having watched him play, but he's 6'1 220... not exactly midget material.

He also tossed for 72% and 4300 his senior year, so i'm inclined to say theres atleast some potential there, its seems he went undrafted because of his height and coming from a spread offense

[GoChargers]

Andrew Luck's only flaw is his speaking voice.

That dude is the most complete pocket passer to ever enter the NFL.

Hyperbole much? He's played a whopping one year in the NFL, during which he threw 18 picks (the same number Sanchez threw), threw for less touchdowns than Russell Wilson, with a lower completion percentage and QB rating than both Wilson and RG3. Oh, and PFF graded Wilson higher than RG3 and Luck.

[CoMoChief]

I wouldn't mind sitting Geno for a couple years , build up his strength, work on his craft and get accustomed to the NFL game, and just have Alex Smith play out his contract and Geno steps in, in a couple years. That's ONLY if we can't trade back and Albert is signed long term.

[Nightfyre]

I wouldn't mind sitting Geno for a couple years , build up his strength, work on his craft and get accustomed to the NFL game, and just have Alex Smith play out his contract and Geno steps in, in a couple years. That's ONLY if we can't trade back and Albert is signed long term.

Don't you bring your voodoo on Geno!

[Pasta Little Brioni]

I wouldn't mind sitting Geno for a couple years , build up his strength, work on his craft and get accustomed to the NFL game, and just have Alex Smith play out his contract and Geno steps in, in a couple years. That's ONLY if we can't trade back and Albert is signed long term.

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

[In58men]

I wouldn't mind sitting Geno for a couple years , build up his strength, work on his craft and get accustomed to the NFL game, and just have Alex Smith play out his contract and Geno steps in, in a couple years. That's ONLY if we can't trade back and Albert is signed long term.

It's very hard that we pick a QB a #1 and sit him for 2 seasons. Has this ever been done?

[The Franchise]

Close the thread now. It's fucking over.

[Mav]

Hyperbole much? He's played a whopping one year in the NFL, during which he threw 18 picks (the same number Sanchez threw), threw for less touchdowns than Russell Wilson, with a lower completion percentage and QB rating than both Wilson and RG3. Oh, and PFF graded Wilson higher than RG3 and Luck.

Peyton Manning, also threw a crap ton of picks his first year, also threw for a ton of yards, and went 3-13 his first year. Why? Because that is how Bruce Arians trains his qbs. Trial by fire. Seattle didnt let Russell Wilson loose till about week 10. Rg3, was never fully released. Hence why he threw so few passes, and most of his passes were off of zone reads, and play action boot legs. Those two were put on a govenor, where as andrew luck was handed a full blown ferrari, and told to have at it.

Andrew Luck, is the most complete qb since peyton manning to enter this league. Oh, and Andrew Luck, of the three, had by far the WORST team.

[Easy 6]

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

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[Mav]

It's very hard that we pick a QB a #1 and sit him for 2 seasons. Has this ever been done?

Not in recent memory. THe last number one over all qb to sit period, i think was eli manning, even that only lasted about 9 weeks? If they draft Geno number one, he would be almost a guarantee to start. The we want geno smith chants would start before the first play of preseason i would have to imagine. There is no way that andy would want that.

[The Franchise]

Peyton Manning, also threw a crap ton of picks his first year, also threw for a ton of yards, and went 3-13 his first year. Why? Because that is how Bruce Arians trains his qbs. Trial by fire. Seattle didnt let Russell Wilson loose till about week 10. Rg3, was never fully released. Hence why he threw so few passes, and most of his passes were off of zone reads, and play action boot legs. Those two were put on a govenor, where as andrew luck was handed a full blown ferrari, and told to have at it.

Andrew Luck, is the most complete qb since peyton manning to enter this league. Oh, and Andrew Luck, of the three, had by far the WORST team.

Oh....and a QB like Andrew Luck comes around every 10 fucking years. I guess we should wait until the next "elite" QB comes around.

Someone let me know when that is.....

[The Franchise]

Not in recent memory. THe last number one over all qb to sit period, i think was eli manning, even that only lasted about 9 weeks? If they draft Geno number one, he would be almost a guarantee to start. The we want geno smith chants would start before the first play of preseason i would have to imagine. There is no way that andy would want that.

If the Chiefs draft Geno Smith....I guarantee you that Reid would come out and state that Alex Smith would be his starting QB for 2013. If the chants for Geno start during the regular season....it's because Alex Smith is doing what everyone thought he would do.....fucking suck.

[Nightfyre]

Oh....and a QB like Andrew Luck comes around every 10 ****ing years. I guess we should wait until the next "elite" QB comes around.

Someone let me know when that is.....

More like every 15. Consensus top QB prospects:
1983 - John Elway
2012 - Andrew Luck

[Mav]

Oh....and a QB like Andrew Luck comes around every 10 ****ing years. I guess we should wait until the next "elite" QB comes around.

Someone let me know when that is.....

not sure where you got that from. That wasnt what i was saying at ALL, not anywhere near it actually. I was just defending how good andrew luck is. Not talking about the chiefs in any way shape or form.....

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Can't wait till Bridgewater is the one compared to Akili, Campbell, Culpepper, and Jafatass.

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

Geoff Mosher ‏@GeoffMosherCSN

Andy Reid said he's worked out Oregon LB/DE Dion Jordan and BYU defensive end Ziggy Ansah. Said he's considering all options for No.1 pick.

[Nightfyre]

If the Chiefs draft Geno Smith....I guarantee you that Reid would come out and state that Andy Reid would be his starting QB for 2013. If the chants for Geno start during the regular season....it's because Alex Smith is doing what everyone thought he would do.....****ing suck.

"Step aside Alex, I'm going to take over the QB position this season." Andy Reid.

[The Franchise]

"Step aside Alex, I'm going to take over the QB position this season." Andy Reid.

I keep fucking doing that for some reason. LMAO

[Hammock Parties]

Andy Reid has got to be the biggest football coach troll ever.

[RunKC]

Andy Reid is at the owners meeting. WTF do you expect him to say? That they don't want Geno anymore?

He's trying to trade down. Of course he's going to say we have an interest in Geno.

It ruins everything by saying they don't want him.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

"Step aside Alex, I'm going to take over the QB position this season." Andy Reid.

Que punt, pass, and kick video with young Giant Andy

[BigCatDaddy]

Cam Newton had 1 year of starting experience and was a cocky asshole.

That couldn't name 1 fucking play his team ran in college.

[Mav]

If the Chiefs draft Geno Smith....I guarantee you that Reid would come out and state that Andy Reid would be his starting QB for 2013. If the chants for Geno start during the regular season....it's because Alex Smith is doing what everyone thought he would do.....****ing suck.

I do this shit all the time too.

I dont think the majority of chiefs fans, or anyone around the nfl expects alex smith to suck. I dont even think that is the majority of everyone on this board. Perhaps of the people posting. I think most people think that even if hes just a slight upgrade, he is an upgrade none the less of cassel.

I dont care what anyone says. If he just doesnt turn the ball over, hes a far bigger upgrade than people want to give credit for. For that reason alone, hes worth having. Maybe too expensive, i was on record over there stating that the 49ers would be lucky to get a 4th rounder for him, so i was as shocked as anyone, but, this is andy reid we are talking about.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

WHY DOES IT MATTER SO MUCH WHAT WE THINK?

[Mav]

Geoff Mosher ‏@GeoffMosherCSN

Andy Reid said he's worked out Oregon LB/DE Dion Jordan and BYU defensive end Ziggy Ansah. Said he's considering all options for No.1 pick.

As he should. If he gets an offer that blows him away, he should take it, if not, take geno smith. Shrugs. He has all the leverage. and that leverage is only going to increase, as we get closer to draft day. By having alex smith, that actually creates more leverage, because now he can put it out that taking a qb isnt a need for him, and that moving has to benefit him.....

[The Franchise]

Guess what? Alex Smith, Chase Daniel and Geno Smith can all co-exist on this roster.

Alex Smith will win you games in 2013.
Chase Daniel is the experienced (slighty) backup QB who can step in if/when Smith gets hurt.
Geno Smith gets a year to learn under Reid and Pederson.

In 2014 you can keep either Alex Smith or Chase Daniel as your competition with Geno Smith. The other one is traded or cut.

[Mav]

WHY DOES IT MATTER SO MUCH WHAT WE THINK?

lol, really, i agree. but, what else would we do to kill time. 6 EFFING MONTHS TILL FOOTBALL SEASON.......:cuss:

[DaneMcCloud]

Hyperbole much? He's played a whopping one year in the NFL, during which he threw 18 picks (the same number Sanchez threw), threw for less touchdowns than Russell Wilson, with a lower completion percentage and QB rating than both Wilson and RG3. Oh, and PFF graded Wilson higher than RG3 and Luck.

LMAO

JFC.

[DaneMcCloud]

Cam Newton had 1 year of starting experience and was a cocky asshole.

Cam Newton won the JUCO national championship as well as the BCS championship.

All of the most successful QB's in the NFL are cocky assholes. Do you think that for one minute, Joe Montana, Dan Marino and John Elway weren't cocky assholes? Hell, Marino still IS a cocky asshole.

[DaneMcCloud]

Cam Newton was considered a REACH at number one back in the day. Damn. Dane is viewing history through tinted lenses.


Good thing Carolina didn't listen to all to all the "experts".

[The Franchise]

Cam Newton won the JUCO national championship as well as the BCS championship.

All of the most successful QB's in the NFL are cocky assholes. Do you think that for one minute, Joe Montana, Dan Marino and John Elway weren't cocky assholes? Hell, Marino still IS a cocky asshole.

Dude.....Cam Newton was NOT elite coming out of college.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Ian Rapoport @RapSheet
Andy Reid says he'll evaluate 8-10 players for No. 1 pick. Asked why Alex over Geno Smith: "Doesn't mean Geno is out of the water." Smiles.

If Geno's going 1.1, we're not drafting him.

[DaneMcCloud]

Dude.....Cam Newton was NOT elite coming out of college.

Interesting.

Then how did he throw for 4,051 yards and 21 TD's his rookie season of 2011?

So six weeks of training camp with Mike Shula as his QB coach made him elite? Hire Mike Shula, asap!

No, don't hire Mike Shula. He sucks ass.

[Mav]

Interesting.

Then how did he throw for 4,051 yards and 21 TD's his rookie season of 2011?

So six weeks of training camp with Mike Shula as his QB coach made him elite? Hire Mike Shula, asap!

No, don't hire Mike Shula. He sucks ass.

actually, they are crediting his work with chris weinke, just like they talked up geno smith, for his work with chris weinke. Apparently, now chris weinke is the qb whisperer. Took, Mike Mayock from stating that geno smith should go in the late first at earliest, to stating he will be a top 10 pick, from the combine, to the pro day.

[The Franchise]

Interesting.

Then how did he throw for 4,051 yards and 21 TD's his rookie season of 2011?

So six weeks of training camp with Mike Shula as his QB coach made him elite? Hire Mike Shula, asap!

No, don't hire Mike Shula. He sucks ass.

Ummmm....considering I'm talking about him as a college QB. He was never viewed as an "elite" QB coming out of college.

Cam Newton had awesome athletic ability. But he also is dumb as fuck when it comes to a playbook and he's got a 10 cent head when it comes to off the field stuff.

[Hammock Parties]

Cam Newton had eleventy billion questions as a passer coming out.

Far more than Geno.

[RunKC]

Cam did things in college that Geno couldn't dream of doing.

[royr17]

Well kiss geno goodbye, a few teams have already expressed their interest in trading for the # 1 overall pick with the chiefs according to Andy Reid.

[The Franchise]

Cam did things in college that Geno couldn't dream of doing.

Cam was asked to do things that Geno wasn't.

[DaneMcCloud]

Ummmm....considering I'm talking about him as a college QB. He was never viewed as an "elite" QB coming out of college.

Cam Newton had awesome athletic ability. But he also is dumb as fuck when it comes to a playbook and he's got a 10 cent head when it comes to off the field stuff.

Then why was he taken #1 overall and why was he able to set the rookie passing record?

Clearly, anyone that said he wasn't "Elite" was a dumbfuck. It's exactly what happened to Marino, where people "claimed" he had issues and slipped to #27 overall.

Fortunately for Newton, Carolina ignored all the bullshit and took him #1 overall, anyway.

[philfree]

Well kiss geno goodbye, a few teams have already expressed their interest in trading for the # 1 overall pick with the chiefs according to Andy Reid.

Link?

['Hamas' Jenkins]

How awesome would it be if Dane was Danny Elfman, and that unbeknownst to all of us Elfman was not only an excellent composer and talented musician, but an irascible, passionate Chiefs fan?

[DaneMcCloud]

Cam was asked to do things that Geno wasn't.

Cam has far more physically ability and size than Geno Smith will ever have.

The ability to run a straight-line 4.59 does not give someone vision to see the field, run for 22 TD's or allude would-be tacklers. Newton is also 6'6, 250 pounds.

Smith will never be 6'6.

[RunKC]

Cam was asked to do things that Geno wasn't.

Geno never did anything as impressive as this. Ever.

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[Saul Good]

Cam was asked to do things that Geno wasn't.

Geno wasn't asked to do those things because he isn't capable of doing those things. Nobody but Cam Newton was capable of doing what Cam did that year.

[Hammock Parties]

Cam has far more physically ability and size than Geno Smith will ever have.

The ability to run a straight-line 4.59 does not give someone vision to see the field, run for 22 TD's or allude would-be tacklers. Newton is also 6'6, 250 pounds.

Smith will never be 6'6.

Cam is a better runner than Geno, no question.

Geno is a better passer than Cam, no question.

It's a push.

[DaneMcCloud]

How awesome would it be if Dane was Danny Elfman, and that unbeknownst to all of us Elfman was not only an excellent composer and talented musician, but an irascible, passionate Chiefs fan?

It would sure be awesome for Dane, I'll tell you that!

o:-)

Unfortunately, that's untrue. Well, the passionate Chiefs fan, anyway.

[DaneMcCloud]

Cam is a better runner than Geno, no question.

Geno is a better passer than Cam, no question.

We will see about that.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

It would sure be awesome for Dane, I'll tell you that!

o:-)

Unfortunately, that's untrue. Well, the passionate Chiefs fan, anyway.

It would also mean you were in Oingo Boingo, which is a level of ownage unto itself.

[Sorter]

Cam did things in college that Geno couldn't dream of doing.

Like stealing a laptop?

[DaneMcCloud]

Geno wasn't asked to do those things because he isn't capable of doing those things. Nobody but Cam Newton was capable of doing what Cam did that year.

The closest comparison in the NFL to Newton is Kaepernick. But he's only started 10 games vs. Newton's 32, so IMO, it's slightly premature to state that he's a Newton clone.

But Kaep certainly has the same skillset and will likely become a beast of a QB.

[DaneMcCloud]

It would also mean you were in Oingo Boingo, which is a level of ownage unto itself.

LMAO

[mr. tegu]

Cam is a better runner than Geno, no question.

Geno is a better passer than Cam, no question.

It's a push.

No push if those are both true statements about each player. Passing QB > Running QB.

[Hammock Parties]

Danny Elfman is one of my favorite composers. Men In Black, Mars Attacks! Batman/Batman Returns, Dick Tracy and Beetlejuice are awesome scores.

If Dane was Danny Elfman I would have a a real crisis of conscience.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

HEZ JUZT TRYING TO DRUM UPZ THE TRADE VALUUEESSSZZZZZZZ...../mouth breather.

Here he comes haters, the time for you to suck some sweet choco-penii draweth nigh.
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[DaneMcCloud]

Danny Elfman is one of my favorite composers. Men In Black, Mars Attacks! Batman/Batman Returns, Dick Tracy and Beetlejuice are awesome scores.

If Dane was Danny Elfman I would have a a real crisis of conscience.

I'm not so keep on hatin'!

:D

[Sorter]

Geno never did anything as impressive as this. Ever.

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I forgot how horrible Mark Barron was in coverage.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Like stealing a laptop?

ROFL

+ Plagiarism

+ Cam Cam Juice

[mcaj22]

i'd cry if Dane was Danny Elfman, Oingo Boingo is one of my favorite punk bands ever

[Sorter]

ROFL

+ Plagiarism

+ Cam Cam Juice

+ Inability to read.

+ Inability to work through progressions consistently.

[suds79]

Geno never did anything as impressive as this. Ever

moot point.

We might as well talk about the things Cordell Patterson can do in relation to Justin Blackmon.

They both (Geno & Cordell) have about the same chance on being a Chief next year.

[royr17]

Link?

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/chiefs/2013/03/19/andy-reid-says-teams-inquired-about-trading-for-first-pick-in-nfl-draft/1999657/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+UsatodaycomNfl-TopStories+%28Sports+-+NFL+-+Top+Stories%29

['Hamas' Jenkins]

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[mcaj22]

I forgot how horrible Mark Barron was in coverage.

doesnt matter when you can do this

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[philfree]

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/chiefs/2013/03/19/andy-reid-says-teams-inquired-about-trading-for-first-pick-in-nfl-draft/1999657/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+UsatodaycomNfl-TopStories+%28Sports+-+NFL+-+Top+Stories%29

Thanks you sir.

[suds79]

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/chiefs/2013/03/19/andy-reid-says-teams-inquired-about-trading-for-first-pick-in-nfl-draft/1999657/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+UsatodaycomNfl-TopStories+%28Sports+-+NFL+-+Top+Stories%29

Seriously can we trust a thing the Chiefs are saying right now?

Of course not.

Geno isn't out of the picture. We've been contacted by other teams for that pick. Blah, blah, blah.

All smokescreens trying to garner interest.

[Sorter]

doesnt matter when you can do this

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And Steve still wants more. Bad motherfucker, he is.

[Hammock Parties]

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This is blowing my mind.

[WhiteWhale]

Cam Newton won the JUCO national championship as well as the BCS championship.

All of the most successful QB's in the NFL are cocky assholes. Do you think that for one minute, Joe Montana, Dan Marino and John Elway weren't cocky assholes? Hell, Marino still IS a cocky asshole.

Seriously.

Has anyone listened to Aaron Rogers? The guy is an arrogant prick.

[Hammock Parties]

I have like 15-20 WVU games saved in case we pick Geno.

I was ready to delete them all until this stupid thread.

SO THEY'RE JUST GONNA HAVE TO SIT AROUND ON MY HARD DISK SOME MORE

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

I have like 15-20 WVU games saved in case we pick Geno.

I was ready to delete them all until this stupid thread.

SO THEY'RE JUST GONNA HAVE TO SIT AROUND ON MY HARD DISK SOME MORE

Savah the flavah.
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[B14ckmon]

I have like 15-20 WVU games saved in case we pick Geno.

I was ready to delete them all until this stupid thread.

SO THEY'RE JUST GONNA HAVE TO SIT AROUND ON MY HARD DISK SOME MORE

Might as well send them to me.

[Dante84]

Seriously.

Has anyone listened to Aaron Rogers? The guy is an arrogant prick.

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[CupidStunt]

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/chiefs/2013/03/19/andy-reid-says-teams-inquired-about-trading-for-first-pick-in-nfl-draft/1999657/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+UsatodaycomNfl-TopStories+%28Sports+-+NFL+-+Top+Stories%29

The only thing I took out of that is that I hope the whole crew pays the same kind of individual attention to Jarvis Jones at UGA's pro day.

[saphojunkie]

The only thing I took out of that is that I hope the whole crew pays the same kind of individual attention to Jarvis Jones at UGA's pro day.

What I take from that is that the Chiefs are looking at the top 8 guys in the draft.

Meaning, ONE OF THESE GUYS IS FALLING TO THEM AT #8.

[bowener]

What I take from that is that the Chiefs are looking at the top 8 guys in the draft.

Meaning, ONE OF THESE GUYS IS FALLING TO THEM AT #8.

What I was thinking!

[Carlota69]

i'd cry if Dane was Danny Elfman, Oingo Boingo is one of my favorite punk bands ever

Punk band?? Oingo Boingo?????? Not even close. Great 80's alternative band? yes. Punk?? No.

[RunKC]

Jeff McLane ‏@Jeff_McLane
Interesting, Howie Roseman revealed today that the trade-up for Fletcher Cox last year was completed a day before the draft.

Interesting. Looks like we might have a serious trade offer on the table today and it will be finalized a day or so before the draft.

[Dante84]

Jeff McLane ‏@Jeff_McLane
Interesting, Howie Roseman revealed today that the trade-up for Fletcher Cox last year was completed a day before the draft.

Interesting. Looks like we might have a serious trade offer on the table today and it will be finalized a day or so before the draft.

What makes it look like that?

[Mr_Tomahawk]

Jeff McLane ‏@Jeff_McLane
Interesting, Howie Roseman revealed today that the trade-up for Fletcher Cox last year was completed a day before the draft.

Interesting. Looks like we might have a serious trade offer on the table today and it will be finalized a day or so before the draft.

WOW...way to go out on a limb on that one... :spock:

[B14ckmon]

Jeff McLane ‏@Jeff_McLane
Interesting, Howie Roseman revealed today that the trade-up for Fletcher Cox last year was completed a day before the draft.

Interesting. Looks like we might have a serious trade offer on the table today and it will be finalized a day or so before the draft.

Reid must have got in touch with Gus and Dave. Classy ****ers.

But how does the Cox trade up have anything to do with this draft?

[RunKC]

Reid must have got in touch with Gus and Dave. Classy ****ers.

But how does the Cox trade up have anything to do with this draft?

Teams are desperate and want their guy. Especially the Bills. They know the Jags are interested in Geno and would have to trade up with us to acquire him.

The Bills would be retards to pick Nassib in the 2nd and let him be the guy. Nobody is buying tickets to support that move.

[dtrain]

It's my first! PBJ

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