USA vs Mexico | World Cup Qulifier | Estadio Azteca | 9:30ct

[|Zach|]

USA vs Mexico at 9:30 on ESPN. Coverage starts an hour before.

Huge game...odds are stacked against the USMNT but they have a lot of momentum whereas Mexico has been sputtering in the Hex. Two Kansas City players representing the US tonight as Graham Zusi is a probably starter in midfield and it even looks like Matt Besler could possibly start at CB.

Any KC'ers want to get in on a watch party Johnny's Tavern (downtown) will be full with US fans and the American Outlaws tonight.

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[sedated]

which Johnny's?

[BlackHelicopters]

Futbol?

[kstater]

Good lord, 930?

[WoodDraw]

which Johnny's?

Power and Light

[loochy]

Good lord, 930?

mexico city is mountain time zone

[|Zach|]

which Johnny's?

P+L downtown good question I added it above.

[|Zach|]

Was only a friendly but last time we were here we got our first win.

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[|Zach|]

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[griZZly64]

U S A! U S A! LETS GOOOO. Always nice whoopin Mexico so I can talk shit to the cooks @ work

[|Zach|]

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[Jerm]

Pretty much a must win for Mexico...I'm angling for a draw but I'm worried.

Gotta weather the first 15 mins....

[WoodDraw]

Pretty much a must win for Mexico...I'm angling for a draw but I'm worried.

Gotta weather the first 15 mins....

I'm still pissed from last time when Davies scored a nice goal to put the US up 1-0. And then we blew it. And then he went and ended his career. I hate this game because I love it. You win - it's amazing. But you know the entire time that you'll probably not and it'll be shit.

[KC_Connection]

mexico city is mountain time zone
It's central, but they have no DST...so essentially the same thing.

[big nasty kcnut]

Tonight we feast in hell.

[Buck]

COME ON YANKS

[RyFo18]

I'm a traitor, but Mexico -156 was a bargain I couldn't pass up. Go Mexico.

[Chief_For_Life58]

Itd be cool if we could travel to an alternate universe and watch all our best athletes grow up playing soccer and become professional soccer players. USA would rape the world cup every time. itd be rediculous

[Cephalic Trauma]

Which of the USMNT members is gay?

Discuss

[|Zach|]

Goodsen is a game time decision....if he does not go it looks like Besler will start.

[Jerm]

Itd be cool if we could travel to an alternate universe and watch all our best athletes grow up playing soccer and become professional soccer players. USA would rape the world cup every time. itd be rediculous

I'll go with a modified 4-3-3....

Calvin Johnson
A.Peterson/Jon Jones/Blake Griffin/RG III
Kaepernick/Luck/Bryce Harper
Mike Trout/Chris Paul
LeBron

[Chief_For_Life58]

I'll go with a modified 4-3-3....

Calvin Johnson
A.Peterson/Jon Jones/Blake Griffin/RG III
Kaepernick/Luck/Bryce Harper
Mike Trout/Chris Paul
LeBron

lol the options are endless. every position would be stacked so deep....not to mention all the guys we dont even know about who do like track and field, lacrosse, volleyball, water polo.....wed rape so bad at international soccer haha wed never lose. rugby too

[|Zach|]

Lebron would be an incredible soccer player.

[Chief_For_Life58]

Id go a 4 3 3 with dwight howard in goal.

Derek Rose, Adrian Peterson, Jamal Charles
Kobe Bryant, RG3, Calvin Johnson
Blake Griffin, Vernon Davis, Lebron James, Thomas Robinson

[Spicy McHaggis]

Michael Freaking Orozco Fiscal gets the late call in.

HE WILL RAIN IN GOALS!!!

[Setsuna]

Was only a friendly but last time we were here we got our first win.

http://u.goal.com/203200/203262hp2.jpg

Those guys don't look American at all.

[seclark]

Tonight we feast in hell.

^this!^
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[|Zach|]

Those guys don't look American at all.

What does American look like?

Hell our (reported not official) starting centerback tonight went to Blue Valley West.

[|Zach|]

Id go a 4 3 3 with dwight howard in goal.

Derek Rose, Adrian Peterson, Jamal Charles
Kobe Bryant, RG3, Calvin Johnson
Blake Griffin, Vernon Davis, Lebron James, Thomas Robinson

I bet if his training was such that it was his focus Tony G could make a decent GK.

[Superbowltrashcan]

Those guys don't look American at all.

Because they look?.?.?.?

Dumb*** that is Zusi right there.... Sheesh.....

And if you don't know who Zusi is why are you saying anything?

Don't tread on USMNT!!!!

[Chief_For_Life58]

I bet if his training was such that it was his focus Tony G could make a decent GK.

holyhell tg would be the best ever. after thinking about it I think dwight might be alittle too big. You get one of those nba PF's like tony growing up playing soccer = all world. ala tim howard

[|Zach|]

holyhell tg would be the best ever. after thinking about it I think dwight might be alittle too big. You get one of those nba PF's like tony growing up playing soccer = all world. ala tim howard

On the field...McCluster...though height isn't what you would want.

[|Zach|]

Some 2 and a half hours before kick off security guards are already lining up around the area where the US away support will be sitting.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BGUoynaCYAEX5KO.jpg

[Setsuna]

What does American look like?

Hell our (reported not official) starting centerback tonight went to Blue Valley West.
Obvious joke is obvious.

Because they look?.?.?.?

Dumb*** that is Zusi right there.... Sheesh.....

And if you don't know who Zusi is why are you saying anything?

Don't tread on USMNT!!!!
Obvious impending ulcer is obvious. And USWNT takes a dump on the USMNT. Remember that!

[WoodDraw]

Obvious joke is obvious.


Bad joke is bad. And unfunny joke is unfunny.


Don't be an asshole just because your joke blew.

[|Zach|]

Obvious joke is obvious.


Obvious impending ulcer is obvious. And USWNT takes a dump on the USMNT. Remember that!

I think that it is great middle school girls get their USWNT heros.

Love watching the real thing though...I will stick to the big leagues.

[Setsuna]

Bad joke is bad. And unfunny joke is unfunny.


Don't be an asshole just because your joke blew.
ROFL Heaven forbid I joke about the suckage of the Men's US Soccer team. I've committed treason! Oh noes! I must be hanged! You haz rope?

I think that it is great middle school girls get their USWNT heros.

Love watching the real thing though...I will stick to the big leagues.
It's true Men's soccer is more intense and exciting, but when your country's team looks middle of the road when it matters, in the actual World Cup, it gets a little tiresome and you move on to the ones who are winning.

[Superbowltrashcan]

Go back through American sports history. I mean imagine if you had Wilt playing as a forward. They may have changed the size of the penalty box much like they did the lane. Barry Sanders? Actually saw Darren Sproles play in junior high. It was amazing what he could do....

[kcxiv]

I'm a traitor, but Mexico -156 was a bargain I couldn't pass up. Go Mexico.

Help I'm Mexican lol. Imma roll w Mexico though. I go for USA for every thing else though.

[Kidd Lex]

U S A. U S A. U S A.

[|Zach|]

It's true Men's soccer is more intense and exciting, but when your country's team looks middle of the road when it matters, in the actual World Cup, it gets a little tiresome and you move on to the ones who are winning.

Some people support their country and some people are front runners. It takes all kinds.

[WoodDraw]

FYI the US vs. Costa Rica is on ESPN Classic right now

[CHENZ A!]

I'm pretty stoked for this game. Too bad it's on a work night, because I bet Johnny's will be a great time tonight. I cooked Frijoles Charros(any excuse to cook Mexican food is a good one IMO), and am having some cold ones at home though. Also, even though my girlfriend is Mexican-American, I'm USA all the way when it comes to my sports. :)

[WoodDraw]

If this NIT game goes into OT, I'll hurt someone.

[Cephalic Trauma]

I don't think soccer will ever be considered a major sport in this country, especially since the MLS pales in comparison to other leagues across the globe.

[WoodDraw]

Besler gets the start. Could be an...interesting defense.

[edit]

#USMNT lineup for #USAvMEX: Guzan; Cameron, Gonzalez, Besler, Beasley; Bradley, Edu; Zusi, Dempsey (c), Gomez; Altidore

[CHENZ A!]

I don't think soccer will ever be considered a major sport in this country, especially since the MLS pales in comparison to other leagues across the globe.

Great insight, man!

[CHENZ A!]

Besler gets the start. Could be an...interesting defense.

Wow. HUGE game for Besler.

[CHENZ A!]

OH BESLER YOU!
YOU GOT WHAT I NEEEEED!
AND YOU ANCHOR OUR DEFENSE!
AND YOU ANCHOR OUR DEFENSE!
OH BESLER YOUUUUUU!
YOU GOT WHAT I NEEEEEEEEED!

[Cephalic Trauma]

Great insight, man!

Hey, you're welcome! Go 2nd rate sports!

[WoodDraw]

Ohh that 2002 WC game is still one of my favorite ever.

[CaliforniaChief]

So what exactly is at stake tonight? I'm definitely watching..

[WoodDraw]

So what exactly is at stake tonight? I'm definitely watching..

It's world cup qualifying in the "hex". Every team plays each other once at home, and once away. A win is 3 points, a draw one point for each team, and a loss obviously 0. The top three teams advance to the world cup. The fourth place team has to play a playoff game against some one. The rest go home.


Aside from that, it's Mexico. At Azteca. It's a massive game for both teams. This home/away is the biggest game they'll play in four years, aside from the world cup.

[edit]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_FIFA_World_Cup_qualification_%E2%80%93_CONCACAF_Fourth_Round

[Great Expectations]

I wish this wasn't on a work night or that it started two hours earlier.

[Demonpenz]

OH BESLER YOU!
YOU GOT WHAT I NEEEEED!
AND YOU ANCHOR OUR DEFENSE!
AND YOU ANCHOR OUR DEFENSE!
OH BESLER YOUUUUUU!
YOU GOT WHAT I NEEEEEEEEED!

[Demonpenz]

anyone have a stream?

[WoodDraw]

anyone have a stream?

Seriously? You can't find a TV with ESPN? ;P

[CHENZ A!]

Hey, you're welcome! Go 2nd rate sports!

I don't watch NASCAR, Duck Dynasty, or BBW porn. It doesn't mean that any of those are "second" rate though.

[CHENZ A!]

OH BESLER YOU!
YOU GOT WHAT I NEEEEED!
AND YOU ANCHOR OUR DEFENSE!
AND YOU ANCHOR OUR DEFENSE!
OH BESLER YOUUUUUU!
YOU GOT WHAT I NEEEEEEEEED!

Q! ;)

[Demonpenz]

Q! ;)

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA WOOOOOO

[Demonpenz]

Seriously? You can't find a TV with ESPN? ;P

I am from st joe :(

[Setsuna]

Some people support their country and some people are front runners. It takes all kinds.

LMAOROFLLMAOROFL
Quote me where I said I didn't support them...I'll wait.
Just because I say they suck, and they do, I can't support them? You need to seriously calm the freak down Zoccer.

[kstater]

Nice recovery by Beasely

[kstater]

But a mistake there.

[Al Bundy]

Kevin Flynn ‏@Kjfly 9m

Mexican fans are booing the US Soccer Team during the US National Anthem all while simultaneously hoping to grab a ride back on their bus.

[WoodDraw]

Kevin Flynn ‏@Kjfly 9m

Mexican fans are booing the US Soccer Team during the US National Anthem all while simultaneously hoping to grab a ride back on their bus.

I must say, I'm not a big fan of the racism that comes out in these matches. It's gotten fairly bad on both sides

[Cephalic Trauma]

I don't watch NASCAR, Duck Dynasty, or BBW porn. It doesn't mean that any of those are "second" rate though.

That's the thing. I'm straight ****ing convinced that MLS/US Soccer is the best in the world. It's just that, the majority of America doesn't think so, the results don't really show it, and most people are indifferent to US soccer as a whole.

And that's why I think I look like a damn fool when I paint myself and bang on a drum to show how fanatical I am about the USMNT.

[CaliforniaChief]

Just a casual observer here...but it seems like Mexico's totally controlling this game.

[Buck]

Yeah I need a stream that's not in Spanish if you know of one.

[Buck]

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK YOU GOTTA MAKE THAT

[SPchief]

horseshit

[WoodDraw]

There's no foul there. Where is this ref from?

[Cephalic Trauma]

I must say, I'm not a big fan of the racism that comes out in these matches. It's gotten fairly bad on both sides

I am! Something has to make this game seem relevant.

[Setsuna]

US looks like it's only playing defense per usual.

[Buck]

What a shitty turnover.

[kstater]

US looks like it's only playing defense per usual.

Where are they playing defense?

[Demonpenz]

Besler

[Buck]

hmmmm...not sure about that one

[Stanley Nickels]

Besler looking good. Not even mad about the yellow.

[MMXcalibur]

LMAO at that "penalty" earlier on.

[Demonpenz]

Besler with a nice foul.

[CaliforniaChief]

Well if anyone can find a hole in the American wall, it would be Team Mexico.

[Great Expectations]

Need Landon, absolutely no control from Bradley.

[WoodDraw]

Ohh panama... Interesting

[SPchief]

flop

[Buck]

Man we're playing like shit with the ball.

[MMXcalibur]

Mexico plays with ball for 10 minutes.
Half-assed U.S counterattack.
Mexico plays with ball for 10 minutes.

[WoodDraw]

They have missed two open headers

[CaliforniaChief]

It feels like it's just a matter of time before Mexico scores.

[Rudy tossed tigger's salad]

So this team is like 40th in the world? Exciting

[Kidd Lex]

We can't even execute basic plays. It's like a cat toying with an injured mouse.

[Setsuna]

When US gets past midfield they go brain dead. Par for the course.

[Stanley Nickels]

It feels like it's just a matter of time before Mexico scores.

At this rate it's not if, but when. Too many chances to keep out of the net.

[CaliforniaChief]

This is what the NFL might look like in 20 years with the rules changes continuing.

[Kidd Lex]

USA should bunker down and play for a point.

[CaliforniaChief]

Yeah, they're just giving the ball away.

[MMXcalibur]

WTF, this is awful.

[Stanley Nickels]

When US gets past midfield they go brain dead. Par for the course.

We have good GKs, good CBs, okay wingbacks, good midfielders, and poor forwards. Donovans effects on this club cannot be understated. This team lacks flair and finishing, which is a recipe for disaster in the home and home format. See SKC, 2011 and 2012.

[Setsuna]

USA should bunker down and play for a point.

LMAO with what talent at striker?

[Stanley Nickels]

USA should bunker down and play for a point.

We don't seem to be able to avoid that ATM, no matter what our actual gameplan is.

[Kidd Lex]

LMAO with what talent at striker?

Not a goal, a point. A nil-nil tie.

[Stanley Nickels]

LMAO with what talent at striker?

...you don't need a goal to get a point.

[Setsuna]

We have good GKs, good CBs, okay wingbacks, good midfielders, and poor forwards. Donovans effects on this club cannot be understated. This team lacks flair and finishing, which is a recipe for disaster in the home and home format. See SKC, 2011 and 2012.

You're absolutely right. But I feel like every year there is a completely different team. It's like the team is assembled without consideration for chemistry.

[Stanley Nickels]

This is a very poor, ugly game from the US.

[CaliforniaChief]

That was better.

[Kidd Lex]

Nice run by Bradley

[SPchief]

There's some good offense

[Demonpenz]

Damnit teal

[Stanley Nickels]

You're absolutely right. But I feel like every year there is a completely different team. It's like the team is assembled without consideration for chemistry.

I agree. It's like Klinsmann is still tinkering with the lineup. This is not the time for that. If you're still figuring out your 11 come qualifying time, you've got bigger problems than mere qualification.

[Setsuna]

...you don't need a goal to get a point.

Oh so we suck so bad we settle for ONE point? Wow. What an awesome team.

[Stanley Nickels]

Chicharito is a fucking stud. Beasley's got his hands full, but still has had a terrible game.

[Great Expectations]

Is Cameron a lock to play moving forward?

[Kidd Lex]

Oh so we suck so bad we settle for ONE point? Wow. What an awesome team.

A point @ Mexico in WCQ would be huge for us after our early stumbles.

[Demonpenz]

Beasley's going to get a red here

[Buck]

LOL FLOPPING MEXICAN BITCH

[Spicy McHaggis]

Way to come out Guzie

[Stanley Nickels]

Oh so we suck so bad we settle for ONE point? Wow. What an awesome team.

I don't understand. We're playing a better opponent at one of the most difficult venues in the world. I'm not making excuses for this team, because there's a lot to be concerned about, but anybody--Spain, Germany, Brazil, etc-- would have trouble winning here.

[Buck]

Fuuuuuuuuuuuuck

[Stanley Nickels]

Dempsey gives 100%, 50% of the time.

[Kidd Lex]

No shame in gaining a point. I'm a SKC season ticket holder, and I watched Sporting outclass the Fire opening day and the game ended all even at nil. Sometimes that's the way the cookie crumbles, and I'm sure Chicago isn't apologizing for their point.

[Stanley Nickels]

Our left side has been terrible thus far.

[Kidd Lex]

Dempsey gives 100%, 50% of the time.

LMAO

[kstater]

Oh so we suck so bad we settle for ONE point? Wow. What an awesome team.

At Mexico? That's a great outcome.

[Setsuna]

I WANT 3 POINTS EVERY GAME!

[Stanley Nickels]

Zusi

[Stanley Nickels]

Quality post from Stanley.

[MMXcalibur]

Lasers in US player eyes.
Stay classy, Mexico.

[Stanley Nickels]

Besler is doing okay, especially considering the circumstances. Remember, Mexico is WINLESS thus far in WCQ, so they're under a tremendous amount of pressure.

[CaliforniaChief]

Lasers in the first half...get ready for the piss bombs in the second half.

[Kidd Lex]

Lasers in US player eyes.
Stay classy, Mexico.

Nothing says classy like a Tijuana Donkey Show

[Stanley Nickels]

Lasers in US player eyes.
Stay classy, Mexico.

In Honduras, they Dodge much worse than lasers

[Setsuna]

All that talent. The best facilities in the world. All the best drug enhancements, and we still can't own the world.

[Stanley Nickels]

I really like me phone, but the autocorrect feature is terrible. The word Dodge shouldn't beauto-capitalizexd also, I may only be annoyed because I'm 4 beers in and cant type as clearly as usual.

[Stanley Nickels]

All that talent. The best facilities in the world. All the best drug enhancements, and we still can't own the world.

I think it's easy for us to believe that if soccer were the most popular sport in this country, that we'd win every world cup. I disagree. I think that would be the great equalizer, and we'd certainly be better, but I'm not so sure we'd dominate at every level.

[Demonpenz]

All these mexicans and a I can't get a clean towel up in here?

[Stanley Nickels]

I really like me phone, but the autocorrect feature is terrible. The word Dodge shouldn't beauto-capitalizexd also, I may only be annoyed because I'm 4 beers in and cant type as clearly as usual.

My God, this has got to be the worst-typed post I've ever submitted. I'm not even gonna change it. It's too beautiful.

[Kidd Lex]

I think it's easy for us to believe that if soccer were the most popular sport in this country, that we'd win every world cup. I disagree. I think that would be the great equalizer, and we'd certainly be better, but I'm not so sure we'd dominate at every level.

So true, look at what Spain has in place just for Barcelona alone. That's hundreds of years in the making and it's damn near perfected for building what you guys referenced earlier; chemistry. It would take a cultural shift beyond just ascension of soccers popularity to our top sport.

[Great Expectations]

I think it's easy for us to believe that if soccer were the most popular sport in this country, that we'd win every world cup. I disagree. I think that would be the great equalizer, and we'd certainly be better, but I'm not so sure we'd dominate at every level.

We'd win our fair share. Can you imagine how Good Barry and Dion Sanders would have been? Jordan in goal? Metta world peace wouldn't let a shot get off.

[Ming the Merciless]

Is it half time? I'm stuck at mother in laws house no espn fml

[Cephalic Trauma]

WTF, this is awful.

This pretty much summarizes American soccer.

[Stanley Nickels]

We'd win our fair share. Can you imagine how Good Barry and Dion Sanders would have been? Jordan in goal? Metta world peace wouldn't let a shot get off.

Absolutely. I always think LeBron would be the best goaltender in the world. His size, instinct, and athleticism are incredible. But tending is a completely different art than basketball, so it's a weird hypothetical.

[Cephalic Trauma]

At Mexico? That's a great outcome.

Half their country is starving. I don't care if their fans are shitting, pissing on and sodomizing each other in the stands. THIS IS THE USMNT

[Setsuna]

I think it's easy for us to believe that if soccer were the most popular sport in this country, that we'd win every world cup. I disagree. I think that would be the great equalizer, and we'd certainly be better, but I'm not so sure we'd dominate at every level.
I like you. You are a calm and reasonable human being and I appreciate your wise. Responses to my posts. This is true. But Soccer doesn't have to be popular for the team to dominate. We have college sports with Soccer as a legitimate sport. It should be a factory honestly.

[Great Expectations]

Is it half time? I'm stuck at mother in laws house no espn fml

Does she love in Siberia?

[Stanley Nickels]

Does she love in Siberia?

In Soviet Russia, Siberia loves in you.

[Demonpenz]

man some of these players are good.

[Ming the Merciless]

Does she love in Siberia?

Shes in Portland& needs z penis. If u help me I pay 1 million casino

[Kidd Lex]

Mexico raping our players...

[MMXcalibur]

Does the US have a shot on goal?

[Great Expectations]

Was that a shot by Dempsey?

[Kidd Lex]

Does the US have a shot on goal?

One header, but then that may not have counted because they whistled a penalty. :hmmm:

[Stanley Nickels]

I like you. You are a calm and reasonable human being and I appreciate your wise. Responses to my posts. This is true. But Soccer doesn't have to be popular for the team to dominate. We have college sports with Soccer as a legitimate sport. It should be a factory honestly.

Sheer statistical probability doesn't necessarily mean success, though. Otherwise, China, India,.Pakistan, Indonesia, and Bangladesh would be world powerhouses. Soccer is a tough thing to really understand in that way. But I think overall we'd be the best because we have all the resources of the European nations, the athleticism that has always helped Brazil /Argentina, and the population to find the best of the best. I just don't expect a miracle that sees all these things come together. The best thing USA has going for it right now is the success of MLS. You've got to get the youth interested in soccer as something you continue playing past age 10.

[Cephalic Trauma]

What's intriguing about 50 minutes and no goals?

It's 0-0 after 50 minutes. If they started the game right now, the score would be the same.

[Demonpenz]

I am surprised as hell that Eddie Fucking Johnson is coming in

[Ebolapox]

Sheer statistical probability doesn't necessarily mean success, though. Otherwise, China, India,.Pakistan, Indonesia, and Bangladesh would be world powerhouses. Soccer is a tough thing to really understand in that way. But I think overall we'd be the best because we have all the resources of the European nations, the athleticism that has always helped Brazil /Argentina, and the population to find the best of the best. I just don't expect a miracle that sees all these things come together. The best thing USA has going for it right now is the success of MLS. You've got to get the youth interested in soccer as something you continue playing past age 10.

when roger goodell ruins the nfl here within 10-15 years and concussion lawsuits have made all 32 owners bankrupt, maybe we'll throw more good athletes at it.

[MMXcalibur]

This is kind of...embarassing.
I mean, I know it's still 0-0 IN MEXICO, but generate SOME offense. Jesus...

[Setsuna]

Sheer statistical probability doesn't necessarily mean success, though. Otherwise, China, India,.Pakistan, Indonesia, and Bangladesh would be world powerhouses. Soccer is a tough thing to really understand in that way. But I think overall we'd be the best because we have all the resources of the European nations, the athleticism that has always helped Brazil /Argentina, and the population to find the best of the best. I just don't expect a miracle that sees all these things come together. The best thing USA has going for it right now is the success of MLS. You've got to get the youth interested in soccer as something you continue playing past age 10.

Yeah as usual you're right. I mean our US baseball team even lost.

[Stanley Nickels]

What's intriguing about 50 minutes and no goals?

It's 0-0 after 50 minutes. If they started the game right now, the score would be the same.

Imagine you're playing chess against Bobby Fisher, but you can't take any pieces off the board..You have to move a piece every time but you just cant take any off. give him a couple weeks to learn. Think he could still beat you? I do. Soccer is just like that. The pieces may all still be on the board, but the situation is completely different, and your opponent has had time to understand how you play, and devised a strategy with that in mind, to beat you. This is a chess game, not basketball.

[Kidd Lex]

If the US had bothered to throw their best at the WBC, it would have been very different.

[Discuss Thrower]

when roger goodell ruins the nfl here within 10-15 years and concussion lawsuits have made all 32 owners bankrupt, maybe we'll throw more good athletes at it.

NBA sez "what up"

[Stanley Nickels]

What's intriguing about 50 minutes and no goals?

It's 0-0 after 50 minutes. If they started the game right now, the score would be the same.

Also, can you not enjoy a game if there's no scoring? If anything, it makes goals that much more important and enjoyable.

[Setsuna]

Too many SoG.

[RunKC]

Demarcus Beasely is struggling out there.

[Great Expectations]

If the US had bothered to throw their best at the WBC, it would have been very different.

You don't think Hosmer is the best first baseman the USA has to offer?

[Discuss Thrower]

Jesus. Mexico shoulda had that one.

[Stanley Nickels]

A touchdown in the first half doesnt mean much, but a first half goal changes everybody's gameplan.

[MMXcalibur]

Why is Beasley still out there? He's been hobbling since halftime and has a Yellow Card.

[Stanley Nickels]

Beasley is in real pain out there

[Ebolapox]

NBA sez "what up"

many more quality athletes play nfl football. 61 total players (53 man roster + 8 man practice squad) x 32 teams = 1,952 players. not even COUNTING arena league and/or college football, CFL, etc.

30 nba teams x 15 players per roster = 450 players.

yeah, there's absolutely no comparison.

[kstater]

Big break there

[Stanley Nickels]

Piss bombs incoming!!!

[Setsuna]

WOW. Fans gonna riot.

[Discuss Thrower]

many more quality athletes play nfl football. 61 total players (53 man roster + 8 man practice squad) x 32 teams = 1,952 players. not even COUNTING arena league and/or college football, CFL, etc.

30 nba teams x 15 players per roster = 450 players.

yeah, there's absolutely no comparison.

How many NFL players could hack it in the NBA in their primes? Tony Gonzalez? Antonio Gates? T.O?

[Stanley Nickels]

Poor no call. I'll take it.

[MMXcalibur]

That should have been a penalty, but Christ, must they go down like they've been shot by a sniper? It's disgusting.

[Great Expectations]

How many NFL players could hack it in the NBA in their primes? Tony Gonzalez? Antonio Gates? T.O?

Nba has the best athletes.

[SPchief]

Take advantage of that and send them home crying

[Silock]

That was a penalty

[Ebolapox]

How many NFL players could hack it in the NBA in their primes? Tony Gonzalez? Antonio Gates? T.O?

doesn't matter. apples and oranges. the question is where do the majority of great potential athletes go in the USA-- which is a bit debatable because we don't have anything but raw numbers that play in the professional sport.

[Stanley Nickels]

Brek Shea has more flair than any of our other guys combined.

[Ebolapox]

Brek Shea has more flair than any of our other guys combined.

https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQyHYAesZk9xsMqv0Iq_3wYokjdKR-N1SeyKxEYSi-4S358pOFL

[Setsuna]

Dempsey iz da bes floppa in 'Merica

[Ming the Merciless]

Fuck yes firstrow has a stream

I'm with you bros

[Discuss Thrower]

doesn't matter. apples and oranges. the question is where do the majority of great potential athletes go in the USA-- which is a bit debatable because we don't have anything but raw numbers that play in the professional sport.

Brazil, Italy and Germany's versions of naturally athletic talent such as a LeBron or Kobe play soccer.

[Setsuna]

Lord.

[Demonpenz]

I have watched three straight 0-0 games ugh

[Great Expectations]

I have watched three straight 0-0 games ugh

I hope this makes it 4 straight.

[Cephalic Trauma]

**** yes firstrow has a stream

I'm with you bros

A little late, chief.

[Demonpenz]

Shit Besler had a huge game.

[Setsuna]

I'm not impressed at all. We'll get eaten alive if we don't improve in a year.

[kstater]

Nice save

[Cephalic Trauma]

If only every game could be a snow game. That was actually worth watching.

[SPchief]

Game

[Jewish Rabbi]

I should be happy about a point in Mexico, but we generated absolutely no offense. Can't say I'm happy about it.

[Buck]

WE DID IT

[SPchief]

Hard earned point

[kstater]

w00t

[MMXcalibur]

A POINT!

MEXICO IS SO PISSED, LOL

[SPchief]

LMAO Mexicans going after the refs

[Discuss Thrower]

That no-call in USA's box was HUUUUUUUUUUGE

[morphius]

lucky, wow.

[Stanley Nickels]

Tremendous stand from Besler. et al! We got that point IN MEXICO!

[KC_Connection]

Missed calls lead to the tie. Although Mexico should have won this game even without them.

[RunKC]

That should have been a PK.

We got damn lucky with that non-call.

[Ming the Merciless]

Woot

[Ming the Merciless]

Wow theyre PISSED

[MMXcalibur]

Grant Wahl @GrantWahl 37s
Press section getting hit with objects from above. Female NPR journo hit in the back. Here we go

[Great Expectations]

I thought Dempsey was poo, Bradley was Ok, Gonzalez was great and Besler was very good. Beasley made some plays; his "flopping"drives me crazy.

[Ming the Merciless]

Does this mean no world cup for Mexico???

[Stanley Nickels]

Jay DeMerit (@D6MERIT) tweeted at 11:08 PM on Tue, Mar 26, 2013:
If you don't dive all game, that IS a penalty. #CryWolf
(https://twitter.com/D6MERIT/status/316763594677166082)

[CHENZ A!]

Besler kicked fucking ass.

[Stanley Nickels]

I thought Dempsey was poo, Bradley was Ok, Gonzalez was great and Beesler was very good. Beasley made some plays; his "flopping"drives me crazy.

Spot on. Besler was great, but even he was bailed out by Omar on at least one occasion. Zusis defensive effort was very good too.

[Stanley Nickels]

edsbs has some fucking brilliant tweets tonight. If you don't already follow him (/them?) do so.

[CHENZ A!]

Edu was the worst player on the field all night.

[Stanley Nickels]

edsbs (@edsbs) tweeted at 10:54 PM on Tue, Mar 26, 2013:
A cheap unfair goal would be a terrible way for Mexico to lose this. I could really use a cheap unfair goal for the US here.
(https://twitter.com/edsbs/status/316760200893845504)

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[Stanley Nickels]

edsbs (@edsbs) tweeted at 11:08 PM on Tue, Mar 26, 2013:
Federales are perhaps mad because we flagrant, it seems. #USMNT
(https://twitter.com/edsbs/status/316763733919690752)

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[Stanley Nickels]

edsbs (@edsbs) tweeted at 11:24 PM on Tue, Mar 26, 2013:
DRAW SO HARD
(https://twitter.com/edsbs/status/316767608034697216)

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[Setsuna]

I thought Dempsey was poo, Bradley was Ok, Gonzalez was great and Besler was very good. Beasley made some plays; his "flopping"drives me crazy.

Yeah I'd respect the Men's team more if they played like men instead of flopping like fish. Stop trying to win with penalties and cards and win on your will and talent. Like the Women's team.

[Stanley Nickels]

edsbs (@edsbs) tweeted at 11:26 PM on Tue, Mar 26, 2013:
What's important is that Mexico is a shambles and their coach has horrendous botox. That's what's important right now.
(https://twitter.com/edsbs/status/316768119521693696)

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[Cephalic Trauma]

edsbs (@edsbs) tweeted at 11:24 PM on Tue, Mar 26, 2013:
DRAW SO HARD
(https://twitter.com/edsbs/status/316767608034697216)

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LMAO

[Demonpenz]

Besler Sportscenter yeah yeah.

[Great Expectations]

Yeah I'd respect the Men's team more if they played like men instead of flopping like fish. Stop trying to win with penalties and cards and win on your will and talent. Like the Women's team.

What I think is worse is that Beasley gives up on opportunities to flop extra hard. Get back up and play; the whistle isn't going to be blown because you lay down for an extra minute.

[Discuss Thrower]

LMAO

LA MERDE ES LOCO (? VERDAD JAIME?)

[CHENZ A!]

Yeah I'd respect the Men's team more if they played like men instead of flopping like fish. Stop trying to win with penalties and cards and win on your will and talent. Like the Women's team.

You haven't even been a good troll in this thread. You're wasting your time.

[Great Expectations]

The first non call Bob ley is talking about was a straight flop.

[Pitt Gorilla]

You haven't even been a good troll in this thread. You're wasting your time.Why is there so much flopping in soccer?

[Setsuna]

What I think is worse is that Beasley gives up on opportunities to flop extra hard. Get back up and play; the whistle isn't going to be blown because you lay down for an extra minute.
Yeah I noticed he did that once tonight. I was like...dude, you're in Mexico...get up.

You haven't even been a good troll in this thread. You're wasting your time.
First of all, prick, I'm not trolling. The only thing I joked about was the picture comment and that I wanted them to get 3 points every game. Other than that I was totally serious. Oh and the drug enhancements thing I added in one post. You need to get off me and be like some other posters on here who don't get bent out of shape from something like this and talk to me like a person. In turn I'll talk to them the same way.

[|Zach|]

USA ain't nothin to fuck with.

[Cephalic Trauma]

USA ain't nothin to **** with.

Yeah, we'll draw the shit outta you!

[|Zach|]

Yeah, we'll draw the shit outta you!

People on the outside do not understand and that is just fine. That is a really nice result putting us in a great position in CONCACAF.

Getting this kind of result with all the injuries and mishaps. Fucking awesome.

[|Zach|]

Yeah I'd respect the Men's team more if they played like men instead of flopping like fish. Stop trying to win with penalties and cards and win on your will and talent. Like the Women's team.

The men are playing...go jack off to your women alone or something. Jesus.

[Ming the Merciless]

So 3 games left? Who are our next victims?

[|Zach|]

I don't think soccer will ever be considered a major sport in this country, especially since the MLS pales in comparison to other leagues across the globe.

7th in the world if you are talking about attendance.

[|Zach|]

I like you. You are a calm and reasonable human being and I appreciate your wise. Responses to my posts. This is true. But Soccer doesn't have to be popular for the team to dominate. We have college sports with Soccer as a legitimate sport. It should be a factory honestly.

Our countries dedication to college and an education (which is great) is actually one of the big reasons we are so behind.

In those other countries. Kids play the game...they get in an academy when they are young and by the time they college aged they have been focusing solely on the game for a decade. They should already be producing at a high level in a solid club if they are not already in the mix for their national team.

Meanwhile our kids focus on their education...high school...college...while playing. Their lives are not all soccer.

This country is building up its youth academys to start the whole process earlier and find talent when they are younger. Help develop it. More work on skill...not so many games.

And not hope through magic that a kid who gets out of college...in some of his best soccer days is not just getting into the swing of things.

[|Zach|]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>MEX journo: Is this tie a victory for your team? Klinsmann: No, it's a tie.</p>&mdash; Grant Wahl (@GrantWahl) <a href="https://twitter.com/GrantWahl/status/316774817477033984">March 27, 2013</a></blockquote>
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[|Zach|]

For some perspective...winning or even getting results on the road in CONCACAF is fucking hard...doing it in Mexico?

Well...

Mexico was a remarkable 68-1-6 in World Cup qualifiers in the history of the Azteca.

[WoodDraw]

Getting a point out of this is great. Even an ugly, lucky one. If I recall correctly, its only the second point we've ever gotten there in wcq.

I Would have taken four points at the beginning if you offered it to me. Now, does mexicos coach survive?

[big nasty kcnut]

judy foudy ask what happened to mexico finesse and magic i tweeted it's crossed the border to america
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[Deberg_1990]

Our countries dedication to college and an education (which is great) is actually one of the big reasons we are so behind.

In those other countries. Kids play the game...they get in an academy when they are young and by the time they college aged they have been focusing solely on the game for a decade. They should already be producing at a high level in a solid club if they are not already in the mix for their national team.

Meanwhile our kids focus on their education...high school...college...while playing. Their lives are not all soccer.

This country is building up its youth academys to start the whole process earlier and find talent when they are younger. Help develop it. More work on skill...not so many games.

And not hope through magic that a kid who gets out of college...in some of his best soccer days is not just getting into the swing of things.

Well that, and the fact that most of the top American athletes start favoring other sports over soccer once they reach a certain age.

[Cephalic Trauma]

People on the outside do not understand and that is just fine. That is a really nice result putting us in a great position in CONCACAF.

Getting this kind of result with all the injuries and mishaps. ****ing awesome.

Oh, I understand fine. They were in the exact same place when they finished as when they started.

It also sounds like Mexico dominated the possession and had the most opportunities to score. Maybe that's a win in your book, and if owning third world countries en route to qualifying for, but never coming close to winning, the World Cup is your standard, then that right there is why USMNT will never be considered relevant.

[loochy]

So 3 games left? Who are our next victims?

3? Try 7.

3 games down, 6 team table, home and away vs each.

The next game is June 7 at Jamaica.

[loochy]

The offense was pathetic. Were there even ANY shots on goal? I don't recall any.

Offensively:
Altidore: nothing besides a few lay offs
Dempsey: nothing
Gomez: nothing
Zusi: nothing
Edu: nothing
Johnson: nothing
Davis: nothing
Bradley: The only real threat i remember all night was when Altidore laid off to Bradley and he ALMOST squeaked through

This team misses Donvan a lot.

With that being said, the defense looked amazing considering the insane injury troubles and the D's makeshift nature

[CHENZ A!]

Yeah I noticed he did that once tonight. I was like...dude, you're in Mexico...get up.


First of all, prick, I'm not trolling. The only thing I joked about was the picture comment and that I wanted them to get 3 points every game. Other than that I was totally serious. Oh and the drug enhancements thing I added in one post. You need to get off me and be like some other posters on here who don't get bent out of shape from something like this and talk to me like a person. In turn I'll talk to them the same way.

Haha I think you have me confused with someone else. I'm not bent out of shape in the slightest. I honestly thought it was obvious you were trying to troll, but if those are your actual takes, then keep on truckin buddy. Makes no difference to me.

[Frankie]

The offense was pathetic. Were there even ANY shots on goal? I don't recall any.

Offensively:
Altidore: nothing besides a few lay offs
Dempsey: nothing
Gomez: nothing
Zusi: nothing
Edu: nothing
Johnson: nothing
Davis: nothing
Bradley: The only real threat i remember all night was when Altidore laid off to Bradley and he ALMOST squeaked through

This team misses Donvan a lot.

With that being said, the defense looked amazing considering the insane injury troubles and the D's makeshift nature

It is obvious they went there to keep most of the team back to defend and come back with a point. Mission accomplished. There was never a serious attack on the Mexican goal. I don't think we ever had more than two forwards against 5 or six defending Mexicans there.

[Cephalic Trauma]

They were there to keep most of the team back to defend and come back with a point. Mission accomplished. There was never a serious attack on the Mexican goal. I don't think we ever had more than two forwards against 5 or six defending Mexicans there.

The only sport where playing not to lose is acceptable.

[Frankie]

The only sport where playing not to lose is acceptable.

Acceptable by whom? Has nothing to do with any sport. It's a strategy. I happen to not like it. But I can see their reasoning. You are playing on the home turf of a formidable opponent who is SUPPOSED to beat you there. By adopting this strategy you gain a point nobody expects you to win and you reduce your opponent's gain from a sure 3 points to just one point. Again it has NOTHING TO DO with the sport. If you are a Soccer hater, find another point to argue. This one was lame.

[Predarat]

That was a good game for a 0-0 game, the USA Goalie saved their asses a few times or more then a few. It won't be long before the USA National Anthem is boo's in a USA venue.

[loochy]

The only sport where playing not to lose is acceptable.

hockey

[loochy]

It is obvious they went there to keep most of the team back to defend and come back with a point. Mission accomplished. There was never a serious attack on the Mexican goal. I don't think we ever had more than two forwards against 5 or six defending Mexicans there.

I actually think that they wanted to try but they just couldn't

[Cephalic Trauma]

Acceptable by whom? Has nothing to do with any sport. It's a strategy. I happen to not like it. But I can see their reasoning. You are playing on the home turf of a formidable opponent who is SUPPOSED to beat you there. By adopting this strategy you gain a point nobody expects you to win and you reduce your opponent's gain from a sure 3 points to just one point. Again it has NOTHING TO DO with the sport. If you are a Soccer hater, find another point to argue. This one was lame.

Acceptable by everyone who has provided commentary on the matter.

It has everything to do with the sport, and what you just described was indeed a strategy which employed playing not to lose.

You effectively elaborated on my point, then said my point was lame. :doh!: