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ShowtimeSBMVP
03-28-2013, 03:36 PM
Geno Smith has potential but not the overall game to be a top-10 pick
March 28, 2013 11:32 AM ET

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At the league meetings earlier this month, I asked two general managers I respect greatly to assess the quarterback class in this year's draft, and both had similar responses.

They don't like it.

"Are we trying to like these guys more than we should?" one of the general managers said. "I don't love any of them."

Not even Geno Smith?
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"No, not even him," he said. "I want the guy at the top to jump out at me on tape, the wow plays, the big throws, the kind of guy you know will be your guy for the next 10 years. I don't see that from him. Can he be good? I am not sure he can. Can he be special? Doubt it. And if you are taking that guy at the top, you want special."

I watched a lot of Smith on Saturdays during the college season. He looked impressive. He had a good arm, made a lot of nice throws and led a high-flying offense at West Virginia.

So as I dove into his tape this week, I did so with an open mind. Were these general managers being too harsh? Was all the talk that Geno Smith should be a top-5 pick accurate?

After studying him closely, I will say this: There is a lot to like, but if I were the GM making the pick Smith wouldn't be my choice in the top 10 or even the top 20.

There are too many flaws.

In fairness to Smith, he played behind a horrible offensive line at West Virginia last year. He was pressured on a regular basis. But the flip side is he played with two outstanding receivers in Tavon Austin, a likely first-round pick, and Steadman Bailey, a likely second-round pick.

In the games I studied, Smith made some impressive throws. He also did some nice things when he moved away from pressure. He moved and reloaded without running. I like that.

But I wanted to like him a lot more than I did. I am a quarterback guy. This league is all about them now. They are 70 percent of the game.

I just didn't get that from Smith. I didn't see a future star. Maybe work can change that. But only time will tell. Here is breakdown of what I saw after studying Smith in several categories.
Arm Strength

When I watched him on television, I thought Smith had a big, powerful arm. After studying his tape, I will say his arm is just OK. He can make all the throws, but there are too many plays where he doesn't seem to have the zip you want from a big-time passer.

That doesn't mean his arm isn't NFL good enough. It certainly is that. But it would have to rank in the middle of the league's passers in terms of arm strength right now. Good, not great.

There were several plays where it appeared he tried to use just his arm, rather than stepping into throws. That's when the ball fell short or skipped to a receiver. I saw him do that on several deep outs.

He also seemed to try and finesse the deep balls, rather than sticking them with a nice throw. Sometimes, he got away with it because of the speed of the college defensive backs. But that won't work in the NFL. He has to be stronger with those throws and drive the football.

He threw a touchdown pass to Bailey against Texas Tech, and even that looked to be a little more of a touch pass than it should have been.

He did make a nice strong throw inside against Oklahoma State to Ryan Nehlen for a touchdown, showing off his arm as he fit it between two defenders. So he can do it. I think some of the problems are from his mechanics, when he just tries to use his arm.
Toughness

This is one area that impressed me. He took a beating at times, but kept getting up and making plays. It's tough to play quarterback behind a line as bad as he had. The pressure was relentless at times.

What I really liked was when I watched him scramble. Smith kept his head up and made plays when he scrambled. This wasn't a quarterback who just tucked it and ran. There were times, however, when he felt what I call "phantom" pressure. There wasn't anyone around him, but he felt it and moved out of the pocket.

That could be because of the poor line up front and the many shots he took. But that's not a good thing. You have to stay on the spot as long as you can if there isn't anybody flushing you out.

But this isn't an area of concern for the most part. He keeps his eyes down the field when the pressure is coming at him. And he can move and reset to throw without taking off to run. That's a plus.
Ability to see the field

Smith does move his head from side-to-side when he is reading the field. I like that. For a young player, he did a solid job at times coming off receivers. But there were other times where I wanted more.

There seemed to be times where he just wouldn't pull the trigger on an open receiver, and came off to a safer throw. That would scare me moving forward. You have to take the chances when they are there.

One such play came against Oklahoma State. On that play, he play-faked to a back out of the shotgun, then faked a reverse to Austin from left to right and set up to throw. He had Bailey wide open in the middle in front of the safeties and behind the linebacker who took a false step on the reverse fake. But he didn't throw it.

He also had J.D. Woods deep on the right sideline wide open, but never threw it. He instead waited for Austin to get into the right flat and he threw it to him for a short gain. That was a safe decision. That isn't what top-level quarterbacks do.

Another time against Iowa State, he had Austin wide open on a cross and held it too long. Eventually, Austin crossed the field and Smith tried to hit him with a soft throw that was easily batted away.
Mechanics

This was a trouble spot for me. His footwork needs a lot of work. He just seemed to use his arm for too many throws. That's a problem. A good quarterback has to step into his throws. That's where the velocity comes from most of the time. Too many times Smith didn't use his legs the right way. And his passes floated.

Most of these bad throws came on intermediate or deep passes. He did a nice job of setting and firing on the short passes. That isn't to say he won't drive it some of the time, but I saw some bad habits.

Against Iowa State, he had Bailey on a deep post for what should have been an easy score. But he tried to touch pass the ball with his arm and it floated. Bailey made a nice adjustment to make the catch for a big gain, but that should have been a touchdown.

Smith has worked to improve his footwork, and scouts at his Pro Day said it was noticeably better. But what happens in the heat of the battle? Does he go back to being more of an arm thrower?
Accuracy

This was a problem at times. Some of it, like I said above, is due to the poor mechanics. But some of it was waiting to throw to open windows all the time. The anticipation wasn't there. You have to feel receivers coming open. At times, Smith seemed to wait and wait and wait and wait.

This is a danger area for NFL quarterbacks. Windows are small and they open and shut quickly. He has to be better at anticipating them coming open, not waiting for them to do so. Some scouts wonder if he can improve that.

At other times, Smith would come off his primary receiver and throw to the other side and skip a pass because he didn't use his body the right way.

There were too many times where I expected passes on the receiver's hands, but they were a little off the target, and the receiver was forced to make a tough catch.
Summary

Smith is a case of a guy being forced up the draft boards. I would take him in the second round. He is in need of some refining. I hear he's a great kid who loves to put in the work, which could make the transition a lot easier. But as far as a top-10 pick, I wouldn't do it. There are simply too many flaws in terms of what I want from my quarterback on the next level. There is growth potential with this kid, but that's not what you want when you draft a kid high in the first round. I just wanted to see more.



http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/21965093/geno-smith-has-potential-but-not-the-overall-game-to-be-a-top10-pick

In58men
03-28-2013, 03:38 PM
So somebody has a different opinion on Geno?


Great thread lol. Next.....

silver5liter
03-28-2013, 03:40 PM
Get off his dick already, we get it. You don't like him. No one cares.

Ebolapox
03-28-2013, 03:40 PM
we get it. you don't like geno smith. it's obvious by now. I note that you go for all the anti-geno articles, you don't TOUCH the pro-geno articles.

ChiefGator
03-28-2013, 03:43 PM
Pete Prisco has the sloppiness to be a top-10 beat reporter, but just not the ability.

KC native
03-28-2013, 03:43 PM
PETE PRICKO CAN SUCK MY PENIS AND GENO'S CHOCOLATEY PENIS.

HemiEd
03-28-2013, 03:46 PM
What? Geno is not Andrew Luck? Shocking. Give me a C potential QB over any other position please.

Tribal Warfare
03-28-2013, 03:48 PM
http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/cbss/ui5/authors/80x80/3708.png

He just loves to be a douchebag

Pitt Gorilla
03-28-2013, 03:50 PM
Perhaps I'm the only one that actually appreciates the posting of this article. The more data the better, IMO. Even if Prisco doesn't know what he's talking about, he did take the time to break down (apparently) a lot of film. The more of these kinds of analyses we see, the more informed we can be.

Bootlegged
03-28-2013, 03:56 PM
Racist.

patteeu
03-28-2013, 03:56 PM
Pretty damning article.

patteeu
03-28-2013, 03:57 PM
Perhaps I'm the only one that actually appreciates the posting of this article. The more data the better, IMO. Even if Prisco doesn't know what he's talking about, he did take the time to break down (apparently) a lot of film. The more of these kinds of analyses we see, the more informed we can be.

+1

Mr. Laz
03-28-2013, 03:59 PM
Of all the things he talked about it's only anticipation that really concerns me.

I don't know that 'feeling the windows' can ever really be learned.

ChiefGator
03-28-2013, 04:00 PM
Hey, I'm not complaining about the posting, but Pete Prisco is to analyzing college QB's as Steve Spurrier is to a shoe salesman..

Tribal Warfare
03-28-2013, 04:02 PM
Of all the things he talked about it's only anticipation that really concerns me.

I don't know that 'feeling the windows' can ever really be learned.

I've seen Geno play and he has no problem with anticipating routes, hot reads, and when WRs break off routes when he scrambles.

DTLB58
03-28-2013, 04:02 PM
I followed Pete on Twitter for all of about 2 weeks. I wouldn't let him save me from a burning house. Let alone, believe anything he writes.

Apologizes to the OP, I didn't read this.

Ebolapox
03-28-2013, 04:04 PM
so, shockingly.... those who hate geno LOVE the article, those who love geno HATE the article.

the world keeps going round.

ModSocks
03-28-2013, 04:08 PM
Meh.

i thought it was a fair article. He didn't really say anything that others haven't said about Geno already.

Geno isn't a perfect QB. I've never said that. But I've always felt that the raw talent is there and that it's worth taking a risk on. If the Chiefs drafted him and sat him until Alex flamed out, it's a win/win.

DJ's left nut
03-28-2013, 04:09 PM
Do I need to read it or can I just stick with my standard - "Pete Prisco is an uniformed jackass" response?

I'm fairly certain I've never seen anything from Prisco that I've found even remotely insightful.

ModSocks
03-28-2013, 04:10 PM
Do I need to read it or can I just stick with my standard - "Pete Prisco is an uniformed jackass" response?

I'm fairly certain I've never seen anything from Prisco that I've found even remotely insightful.

He mentions some stuff that you and other have mentioned. Lacks leg drive etc.

KCDC
03-28-2013, 04:11 PM
At least he watched tape. I fear that people expect perfection. They are willing to take an LT that needs coaching; but, heaven forbid if you take a QB that needs coaching.

DJ's left nut
03-28-2013, 04:13 PM
Yeah...I went ahead and read it.

I agree with his analysis, I just disagree with his conclusion. You're right - he says the same things I said about Geno 4 months ago; his lower half is just not that good and he falls in love with touch passes on throws he needs to fire in there (in all honesty, I'm not convinced he watched the tape - I think he just cribbed my posts).

All that said - why does that preclude him from being a high pick?

He has a flaw in his leg drive that he needs to work on. And for the record, it looked better during the combine and pro days, so I believe Weinke has helped in that regard.

I feel like Prisco's fallen into the "Luck" trap, just like so many others before him. If a QB isn't a perfect, polished prospect, then he's not worth taking high because "He's not Andrew Luck".

That's just not a fair bar.

Nothing he says from an analysis standpoint is unfair, but his application of the analysis is just wrong-headed.

KCDC
03-28-2013, 04:15 PM
I take some comfort from the fact that EVERYONE thought Russell Wilson was not NFL ready and that he was a late round pick. Some thought the Seahawks were crazy for taking him so early.

He did not compare favorably to Andrew Luck, so he was not worthy of an early round pick. The same fools are saying the thing about every other QB they have seen since Luck. Wilson has proven he had first round talent. Could Geno suffer from the same?

Bewbies
03-28-2013, 04:17 PM
Isn't Prisco the one that said Matt Cassel was a better passer than Tony Romo?

BlackHelicopters
03-28-2013, 04:20 PM
Pete Prisco sounds like a porn name.

RealSNR
03-28-2013, 04:25 PM
I legitimately like Matt Barkley.

But every post of yours about Geno just spews forth all kinds of period blood. It makes me hate the dude when I shouldn't.

Messier
03-28-2013, 04:30 PM
Yep

When? Prisco has hated all things Kansas City for a while. He's been really anti SP since he got here. I think most Geno lovers would find themselves agreeing with a lot of Priscos views.

BlackHelicopters
03-28-2013, 04:33 PM
Who is Pete Prisco, and more importantly, why do we care what he says? Douche.

HolyHat
03-28-2013, 04:33 PM
When? Prisco has hated all things Kansas City for a while. He's been really anti SP since he got here. I think most Geno lovers would find themselves agreeing with a lot of Priscos views.

I was wrong. I asked him and he said it wasn't him. My bad.

HolyHat
03-28-2013, 04:34 PM
Who is Pete Prisco, and more importantly, why do we care what he says? Douche.

He's actually a pretty knowledgable dude, and he calls shit how he see's it. Even if he's wrong.

TLO
03-28-2013, 04:37 PM
so, shockingly.... those who hate geno LOVE the article, those who love geno HATE the article.

the world keeps going round.

Pete Prisco can suck a bag of dicks. And I'm indifferent on Geno.

Prisco just flat out blows his nut in horses.

DaneMcCloud
03-28-2013, 04:55 PM
I take some comfort from the fact that EVERYONE thought Russell Wilson was not NFL ready and that he was a late round pick.

This is complete and utter BULLSHIT.

Teams shied away from Russell Wilson due to the fact that he's only 5'11.

NO ONE said anything about his leadership skills, athleticism, arm strength, etc.

Goddammit, stop talking out of your ass.

DaneMcCloud
03-28-2013, 04:56 PM
Who is Pete Prisco, and more importantly, why do we care what he says? Douche.

So, you're a football fan but you don't know Pete Prisco?

JFC, I swear, some of you motherfuckers live in a cave.

WhawhaWhat
03-28-2013, 05:01 PM
This is how I picture the Geno circle jerk after reading this.

http://fringebowlteamblog.com/images/16170812-rage-gif-.gif

keg in kc
03-28-2013, 05:14 PM
It sure would be nice if somebody would take the time to create two threads dedicated to talking about Geno Smith's pluses and minuses.

patteeu
03-28-2013, 05:44 PM
so, shockingly.... those who hate geno LOVE the article, those who love geno HATE the article.

the world keeps going round.

I loved the article and I don't hate Slow Eyes.

Direckshun
03-28-2013, 05:47 PM
I wrote a year ago as the 2013 QB class was on the horizon, that I thought Geno was a 3rd round talent.

I think this past year proved me wrong. He's clearly a borderline 1st/2nd round product, that's being elevated because of his position, and the overall shallow depth of it this year.

That said, that elevation is justified. You have to reach for QBs.

HonestChieffan
03-28-2013, 05:51 PM
I've seen Geno play and he has no problem with anticipating routes, hot reads, and when WRs break off routes when he scrambles.

Neither did Stanzi

Messier
03-28-2013, 05:52 PM
I wrote a year ago as the 2013 QB class was on the horizon, that I thought Geno was a 3rd round talent.

I think this past year proved me wrong. He's clearly a borderline 1st/2nd round product, that's being elevated because of his position, and the overall shallow depth of it this year.

That said, that elevation is justified. You have to reach for QBs.

You don't HAVE to, but teams are worried about missing out, then they wonder why so many first round QBs turn out to be average or below average.

Tribal Warfare
03-28-2013, 05:56 PM
Neither did Stanzi

Stanzi was essentially discarded, and all the coaching resources were focused on Cassel to salvage what they could so Pioli wouldn't look so bad.

Pasta Little Brioni
03-28-2013, 06:01 PM
I'd trust pete28's opinion on QB's before I went to Prisco

Hammock Parties
03-28-2013, 06:02 PM
Needed to complete 80 percent of his throws to be considered a top prospect.

Pasta Little Brioni
03-28-2013, 06:07 PM
Needed to complete 80 percent of his throws to be considered a top prospect.

Too inconsistent. Threw an incomplete pass that one time...

HonestChieffan
03-28-2013, 06:07 PM
Stanzi was essentially discarded, and all the coaching resources were focused on Cassel to salvage what they could so ***** wouldn't look so bad.

So, Stanzi still has no problem with anticipating routes, hot reads, and when WRs break off routes when he scrambles. Sorta like Geno?

Tribal Warfare
03-28-2013, 06:11 PM
So, Stanzi still has no problem with anticipating routes, hot reads, and when WRs break off routes when he scrambles. Sorta like Geno?


Your putting words in my mouth, I said he was discarded by the P.ioli regime in favor to salvage Cassel. Which means they most likely fucked him up, and he regressed developing bad habits and killing his confidence by putting him behind a 3rd OL squad.

saphojunkie
03-28-2013, 06:22 PM
Yeah...I went ahead and read it.

I agree with his analysis, I just disagree with his conclusion. You're right - he says the same things I said about Geno 4 months ago; his lower half is just not that good and he falls in love with touch passes on throws he needs to fire in there (in all honesty, I'm not convinced he watched the tape - I think he just cribbed my posts).

All that said - why does that preclude him from being a high pick?

He has a flaw in his leg drive that he needs to work on. And for the record, it looked better during the combine and pro days, so I believe Weinke has helped in that regard.

I feel like Prisco's fallen into the "Luck" trap, just like so many others before him. If a QB isn't a perfect, polished prospect, then he's not worth taking high because "He's not Andrew Luck".

That's just not a fair bar.

Nothing he says from an analysis standpoint is unfair, but his application of the analysis is just wrong-headed.

This is exactly how I felt. The greatest fallacy is the whole "not worth a top ten pick" nonsense. So, he's worth 11 but not 10? Why the arbitrary cutoff? What makes 11 so different from 9? The extra digit? Why not "not worth a top 13 pick but 14 is okay"? Or top 37 but not 38?

Just Passin' By
03-28-2013, 06:37 PM
This is exactly how I felt. The greatest fallacy is the whole "not worth a top ten pick" nonsense. So, he's worth 11 but not 10? Why the arbitrary cutoff? What makes 11 so different from 9? The extra digit? Why not "not worth a top 13 pick but 14 is okay"? Or top 37 but not 38?

It's probably for the incredibly simple reason that he doesn't have him ranked as a top ten player, your potential disagreement notwithstanding.

Sorter
03-28-2013, 06:41 PM
It's hard for me to take a guy seriously who projected Jevan Snead as the best QB in the 2010 draft.

DaneMcCloud
03-28-2013, 06:51 PM
It's hard for me to take a guy seriously who projected Jevan Snead as the best QB in the 2010 draft.

I like Prisco. I read all of his columns and most of his tweets. He's insightful and brutally honest, especially when it comes to older players, running backs, etc.

No one can be correct all the time and IMO, he's a good voice in a sea of ass kissers.

patteeu
03-28-2013, 06:51 PM
This is exactly how I felt. The greatest fallacy is the whole "not worth a top ten pick" nonsense. So, he's worth 11 but not 10? Why the arbitrary cutoff? What makes 11 so different from 9? The extra digit? Why not "not worth a top 13 pick but 14 is okay"? Or top 37 but not 38?

Prisco didn't say he was worth 11 but not 10. You can carry this line of thinking to absurdity and conclude that every player draft able is worth the 1.1. At some point, I trust, even you would distinguish between a pick worthy of 1.1 and one only worthy of a lesser pick. So where is your cut-off?

Halfcan
03-28-2013, 07:02 PM
So you have two awesome recievers but a crappy line? How is that Geno's fault?

RunKC
03-28-2013, 07:03 PM
Needed to complete 80 percent of his throws to be considered a top prospect.

Complaining about Alex Smith throwing short safe passes and then hiding from the fact that Geno Smith does the same fucking thing makes you look like a huge asshole.

Ace Gunner
03-28-2013, 07:03 PM
"Smith does move his head from side-to-side when he is reading the field. I like that. For a young player, he did a solid job at times coming off receivers. But there were other times where I wanted more"

ya, but this I like about Geno. He's a gamer.

Sorter
03-28-2013, 07:06 PM
I like Prisco. I read all of his columns and most of his tweets. He's insightful and brutally honest, especially when it comes to older players, running backs, etc.

No one can be correct all the time and IMO, he's a good voice in a sea of ass kissers.

You know I'm a baby ocelot, so I'm not lying when I said I had never heard of Prisco until this year.

Meh. Seems like an educated beat writer, not someone who understands football.

The Cosell article I agreed with for the most part. This article just made me feel like I was reading an article from a journalist who doesn't really understand/know football but has enough knowledge to seem like an expert to the average/casual fan. He doesn't say what or how many games he studied and he also has gems like this: "Smith does move his head from side-to-side when he is reading the field. I like that. For a young player, he did a solid job at times coming off receivers. But there were other times where I wanted more." He then cites 3 plays. 3. Out of 3 full years of play.

Saccopoo
03-28-2013, 07:28 PM
Geno has as many tools for the position as I've seen out of anyone not named Luck over the past decade.

The criticisms that Prisco states are oddly similar to Aaron Rogers when he came out of college with the exception that Geno tries to put too much touch on the ball versus zip where Rogers tried to put too much zip on the ball versus touch.

However, the tools are there. It's not like a guy like Barkley who will never have the arm, or a guy like Glennon, who will never have the accuracy. Geno has both the arm and the accuracy and has exhibited the capability to do both in a game time situation.

The thing that Prisco mentions that is ultimately true was that WVU's offensive line was an absolute sieve. And that the Mountaineer defense was 117th out of 124th. Geno was throwing under pressure all game long, nearly every single game and he still passes for 71.2% completion and 42 TD's vs. 6 Ints. That's freaking ridiculous. His performances in the Marshall, James Madison, Baylor and Kansas games were things most QB's can't even do in practice against air.

A year or two under Reid's tuteledge and you'll see what an All-Pro QB is supposed to look like.

Deberg_1990
03-28-2013, 07:33 PM
People should go back and read McNabbs scouting reports coming out. Tons of question marks....mainly because he was an option running QB. Andy Reid put a ton of work into him and made him get better. He always had accuracy flaws, but he got better.

Point is, if Reid was willing to do it once.....is he willing to try it again?

Saccopoo
03-28-2013, 07:33 PM
But as far as a top-10 pick, I wouldn't do it. There are simply too many flaws in terms of what I want from my quarterback on the next level. There is growth potential with this kid, but that's not what you want when you draft a kid high in the first round. I just wanted to see more.

I'd seriously like to know who in this draft has done more at their respective positions than Geno has done at his.

Who are these mythical Top-10 guys that Geno doesn't fall into/can't beat out that have shown more potential at the next level for their position than Geno?

Werner? Jones? Lotulelei? Joeckel? Fisher? Jordan?

Sorry, but I don't see it.

KC native
03-28-2013, 07:35 PM
Geno has as many tools for the position as I've seen out of anyone not named Luck over the past decade.

The criticisms that Prisco states are oddly similar to Aaron Rogers when he came out of college with the exception that Geno tries to put too much touch on the ball versus zip where Rogers tried to put too much zip on the ball versus touch.

However, the tools are there. It's not like a guy like Barkley who will never have the arm, or a guy like Glennon, who will never have the accuracy. Geno has both the arm and the accuracy and has exhibited the capability to do both in a game time situation.

The thing that Prisco mentions that is ultimately true was that WVU's offensive line was an absolute sieve. And that the Mountaineer defense was 117th out of 124th. Geno was throwing under pressure all game long, nearly every single game and he still passes for 71.2% completion and 42 TD's vs. 6 Ints. That's freaking ridiculous. His performances in the Marshall, James Madison, Baylor and Kansas games were things most QB's can't even do in practice against air.

A year or two under Reid's tuteledge and you'll see what an All-Pro QB is supposed to look like.

This. Geno is a high probability bet. He's not a sure thing, but he has the potential to be great.

Pitt Gorilla
03-28-2013, 08:28 PM
so, shockingly.... those who hate geno LOVE the article, those who love geno HATE the article.

the world keeps going round.I like Geno. I like the article.

DaneMcCloud
03-28-2013, 08:38 PM
Geno has as many tools for the position as I've seen out of anyone not named Luck over the past decade.


No, he does not.

Not only does he lack the explosiveness of Cam Newton or RGIII in the run game and the arm strength of Kaepernick or Newton or Eli Manning, he has the personality of a dead Muppet.

The guy has no charisma, he has no "pizazz" and he has no sizzle.

You're smoking too much synthetic.

keg in kc
03-28-2013, 09:35 PM
The guy has no charisma, he has no "pizazz" and he has no sizzle.I didn't realize "charisma" was such a key quality in a player. Joe Flacco better give his ring back.

Canofbier
03-28-2013, 09:45 PM
Although I didn't agree with everything he observed, I concur with others in this thread saying that this level of analysis (correct or not) is sadly lacking from national media sources. Not that it needs repeating again, but Geno certainly isn't the kind of can't-miss prospect that Luck or RGIII were last year. However, I still believe that he is on the level of many other QBs taken at the top of other recent drafts. Given the lack of true top-tier talent in this draft, I see him being worth the top pick if Reid and Dorsey like him.

TEX
03-28-2013, 09:54 PM
Although I didn't agree with everything he observed, I concur with others in this thread saying that this level of analysis (correct or not) is sadly lacking from national media sources. Not that it needs repeating again, but Geno certainly isn't the kind of can't-miss prospect that Luck or RGIII were last year. However, I still believe that he is on the level of many other QBs taken at the top of other recent drafts. Given the lack of true top-tier talent in this draft, I see him being worth the top pick if Reid and Dorsey like him.

I don't and they wont either I bet.

RealSNR
03-28-2013, 09:55 PM
I didn't realize "charisma" was such a key quality in a player. Joe Flacco better give his ring back.

Brett Favre just oozed charisma and pizzazz.

"Uhhh... we played hard... ah tried ter move the chains... uhhh... talked ta chilly bout that... felt good... uhh... good game"

milkman
03-28-2013, 09:58 PM
No, he does not.

Not only does he lack the explosiveness of Cam Newton or RGIII in the run game and the arm strength of Kaepernick or Newton or Eli Manning, he has the personality of a dead Muppet.

The guy has no charisma, he has no "pizazz" and he has no sizzle.

You're smoking too much synthetic.

Here's the thing.

You are full of shit.

You've become the same as the tools you been arguing with for years.

keg in kc
03-28-2013, 10:03 PM
Brett Favre just oozed charisma and pizzazz.

"Uhhh... we played hard... ah tried ter move the chains... uhhh... talked ta chilly bout that... felt good... uhh... good game"Aaron Rodgers may have been in the running with Flacco for the goofiest looking uncle fester fucker ever until he won his titles and got his discount double-check commercials rolling. Much like Flacco in terms of winning changing the perception of a guy's personality.

milkman
03-28-2013, 10:18 PM
Aaron Rodgers may have been in the running with Flacco for the goofiest looking uncle fester ****er ever until he won his titles and got his discount double-check commercials rolling. Much like Flacco in terms of winning changing the perception of a guy's personality.

Remember how Eli was viewed before his?

Boring and no fire suddenly became unflappable.

Imon Yourside
03-28-2013, 10:21 PM
Pete Pricksco LMAO

I don't know how this pos still has a job.

DaneMcCloud
03-28-2013, 10:23 PM
Here's the thing.

You are full of shit.

You've become the same as the tools you been arguing with for years.

Thanks.

That means a lot coming from a guy that thinks that an almost 29 year old Brandon Albert can still "put it together".

You're a loudmouth phony.

DaneMcCloud
03-28-2013, 10:27 PM
I didn't realize "charisma" was such a key quality in a player. Joe Flacco better give his ring back.

Terry Bradshaw, Joe Montana, Steve Young, Troy Aikman, Trent Dilfer, Joe Namath, Len Dawson, Peyton Manning, Drew Brees?

Duds, all of them.

No future in television, no charisma, nothing.

keg in kc
03-28-2013, 10:27 PM
Remember how Eli was viewed before his?

Boring and no fire suddenly became unflappable.All of those guys have slow eyes, too.

keg in kc
03-28-2013, 10:28 PM
Terry Bradshaw, Joe Montana, Steve Young, Troy Aikman, Trent Dilfer, Joe Namath, Len Dawson, Peyton Manning, Drew Brees?

Duds, all of them.

No future in television, no charisma, nothing.What does any of that have to do with anything? The only charisma that matters for what we need is the kind in the huddle. And I doubt any of us can speak reliably about that for Geno or anyone else.

DaneMcCloud
03-28-2013, 10:29 PM
What does any of that have to do with anything? The only charisma that matters for what we need is the kind in the huddle. And I doubt any of us can speak reliably about that for Geno or anyone else.

Really?

What does being a dynamic personality have to do with leading a team to a Super Bowl victory?

Are you really asking this question?

milkman
03-28-2013, 10:33 PM
Thanks.

That means a lot coming from a guy that thinks that an almost 29 year old Brandon Albert can still "put it together".

You're a loudmouth phony.

Fuck off Dane.

You're a useless fucking blowhard.

DaneMcCloud
03-28-2013, 10:34 PM
Fuck off Dane.

You're a useless fucking blowhard.

Really? What did I "blowhard" about?

And it's nice and convenient of you to avoid your own recent claim.

You're my bitch now, John the Milkman.

Oh, I forgot: John, the OLD ASS, Milkman.

milkman
03-28-2013, 10:35 PM
Really?

What does being a dynamic personality have to do with leading a team to a Super Bowl victory?

Are you really asking this question?

Like he asked already.

Tell us all about Joe3 Flacco's dynamic personality.

milkman
03-28-2013, 10:38 PM
Really? What did I "blowhard" about?

And it's nice and convenient of you to avoid your own recent claim.

You're my bitch now, John the Milkman.

Oh, I forgot: John, the OLD ASS, Milkman.

I have never shied away from any claim you useless prick.

I've said more than once that Albert hasnkt yet reached his full potential, because hasn't yet masteres the footwork and technique.

Hammock Parties
03-28-2013, 10:43 PM
You're a loudmouth phony.

Are you a legit loudmouth?

Ming the Merciless
03-28-2013, 10:50 PM
Really?

What does being a dynamic personality have to do with leading a team to a Super Bowl victory?

Are you really asking this question?

What THE ****? Did you learn football from "Friday night lights" or some other ****ing gay ass TV after school special? Did twighlight have a football episode?

Your criteria for a franchise QB is if he gives you a boner?

I'm sorry Geno's droopy eyes is listed as one of your turn offs on SouthernCaLTwinks.com dating site but I can assure you that no one gives a **** about off the field charm.

Win. Just ****ing win. Lead by winning...no one needs fake hollow words.


Also **** Steve young. He doesn't deserve h o f

RealSNR
03-28-2013, 10:52 PM
Really?

What does being a dynamic personality have to do with leading a team to a Super Bowl victory?

Are you really asking this question?

A career in broadcasting doesn't mean you have a dynamic personality.

A player like Sam Bradford would I'm sure be great on TV. That doesn't mean the guy isn't boring as snail rape, though. And you see that all the time among NFL QBs.

Most star QBs don't become "dynamic personalities" until they've had a few years at the head of the locker room. Kurt Warner and Tom Brady were probably thought of as boring douchebags when they first entered the league. They started winning shit and suddenly became "dynamic personalities."

Funny how that works.

Hammock Parties
03-28-2013, 10:53 PM
Eli Manning has a complete lack of personality.

RealSNR
03-28-2013, 10:55 PM
Jay Cutler gets docked for not having a personality. He's a droopy-eyed fart face. Same goes with Ben Roethlisberger, only without the "just smoked a bowl" expression.

Yet everybody on the Bears would probably take a bullet for him.

That's all that ****ing matters.

DaneMcCloud
03-28-2013, 10:58 PM
Like he asked already.

Tell us all about Joe3 Flacco's dynamic personality.

Oh, just shut the fuck up. What do YOU know about Flacco?

DaneMcCloud
03-28-2013, 10:58 PM
What THE ****? Did you learn football from "Friday night lights" or some other ****ing gay ass TV after school special? Did twighlight have a football episode?

Your criteria for a franchise QB is if he gives you a boner?

I'm sorry Geno's droopy eyes is listed as one of your turn offs on SouthernCaLTwinks.com dating site but I can assure you that no one gives a **** about off the field charm.

Win. Just ****ing win. Lead by winning...no one needs fake hollow words.


Also **** Steve young. He doesn't deserve h o f


LMAO

DaneMcCloud
03-28-2013, 10:59 PM
Jay Cutler gets docked for not having a personality. He's a droopy-eyed fart face. Same goes with Ben Roethlisberger, only without the "just smoked a bowl" expression.

Yet everybody on the Bears would probably take a bullet for him.

That's all that ****ing matters.

No, what MATTERS is that Cutler has been on TWO teams and hasn't won SHIT.

What the fuck is wrong with you, besides the obvious?

Hammock Parties
03-28-2013, 11:00 PM
Dane conveniently ignoring the Ben Roethlisberger example.

DaneMcCloud
03-28-2013, 11:01 PM
A career in broadcasting doesn't mean you have a dynamic personality.

Says the tone deaf fucktard obsessed with a 22 year old from West Virginia that absolutely knows nothing about the entertainment business.

DaneMcCloud
03-28-2013, 11:01 PM
Dane conveniently ignoring the Ben Roethlisberger example.

Which is...?

patteeu
03-28-2013, 11:01 PM
Dane conveniently ignoring the Ben Roethlisberger example.

Ben Roethlisberger is charismatic. He seduced that one girl in the bar bathroom.

Ming the Merciless
03-28-2013, 11:03 PM
Says the tone deaf ****tard

Was SNR on American idol or do you guys just sing to each other when jacking off on skype?

DaneMcCloud
03-28-2013, 11:05 PM
I have never shied away from any claim you useless prick.

I've said more than once that Albert hasnkt yet reached his full potential, because hasn't yet masteres the footwork and technique.

Maybe he'll get there when he's as old as you.

DaneMcCloud
03-28-2013, 11:06 PM
Was SNR on American idol or do you guys just sing to each other when jacking off on skype?

This is actually pretty good.

:D

Sweet Daddy Hate
03-28-2013, 11:06 PM
Terry Bradshaw, Joe Montana, Steve Young, Troy Aikman, Trent Dilfer, Joe Namath, Len Dawson, Peyton Manning, Drew Brees?

Duds, all of them.

No future in television, no charisma, nothing.

Yep, draft me a whacky asshole that can make great commercials for prostate meds! Go fuck yourself, McDumbass.
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RealSNR
03-28-2013, 11:10 PM
Was SNR on American idol or do you guys just sing to each other when jacking off on skype?

I actually have absolute pitch. I have no idea WTF Dane is talking about.

DaneMcCloud
03-28-2013, 11:11 PM
Yep, draft me a whacky asshole that can make great commercials for prostate meds! Go fuck yourself, McDumbass.
Posted via Mobile Device

Yeah, Terry Bradshaw didn't win four Super Bowls.

DaneMcCloud
03-28-2013, 11:12 PM
I actually have absolute pitch. I have no idea WTF Dane is talking about.

And you're the foremost authority on future NFL QB's.

Your resume over the past eleven years is impeccable.

RealSNR
03-28-2013, 11:19 PM
And you're the foremost authority on future NFL QB's.

Your resume over the past eleven years is impeccable.
I've been right far more times than I've been wrong. Jimmy Clausen was my biggest fuckup. I only ever liked Ricky Stanzi because he deserved a chance at starting over Matt Cassel. And then I wanted the Chiefs to draft Mark Sanchez, in which case I'm taking your ass down with me on that one.

You do NOT want to go down this road with me. Your track record on here is just as spotty/brilliant as mine is, whichever way you want to look at it.

Abba-Dabba
03-28-2013, 11:25 PM
Pete Prisco is the same choad who had this to say.

No. 75: Seahawks select: Russell Wilson, QB, Wisconsin

Why does Seattle take him? They paid Matt Flynn and have two others. Strange pick.

Grade: D

His understanding of team needs and QB's is piss poor.

Imon Yourside
03-28-2013, 11:31 PM
Pete Prisco is the same choad who had this to say.



His understanding of Football is piss poor.

Fixed it for ya.

DaneMcCloud
03-28-2013, 11:47 PM
You do NOT want to go down this road with me. Your track record on here is just as spotty/brilliant as mine is, whichever way you want to look at it.

Oh really? I've pimped a guy for 7 months straight? I've made hundreds, if not thousands of posts, about a SINGLE player?

I've insulted millions, if not billions of people, worldwide, with my avatar and my nonstop usage of the word "rape"?

You "claim" that you're not "Tone Deaf".

I'd claim that you are, so bring it fucking ON.

RealSNR
03-28-2013, 11:57 PM
Oh really? I've pimped a guy for 7 months straight? I've made hundreds, if not thousands of posts, about a SINGLE player?

I've insulted millions, if not billions of people, worldwide, with my avatar and my nonstop usage of the word "rape"?

You "claim" that you're not "Tone Deaf".

I'd claim that you are, so bring it ****ing ON.

Way to change the subject.

Are we talking about QBs or not? Make up your mind you twitchy little freak

RealSNR
03-28-2013, 11:59 PM
And what the fuck is this "tone deaf" shit you keep bringing up? A bad attempt at trolling?

Just Passin' By
03-28-2013, 11:59 PM
A career in broadcasting doesn't mean you have a dynamic personality.

A player like Sam Bradford would I'm sure be great on TV. That doesn't mean the guy isn't boring as snail rape, though. And you see that all the time among NFL QBs.

Most star QBs don't become "dynamic personalities" until they've had a few years at the head of the locker room. Kurt Warner and Tom Brady were probably thought of as boring douchebags when they first entered the league. They started winning shit and suddenly became "dynamic personalities."

Funny how that works.

Brady was leading his teammates from the beginning, and his personality was there from day one.

FOXBORO (CBS) – New England Patriots owner Robert Kraft, speaking from Gillette Stadium on Friday, remembers back to when he first met Tom Brady.

The 22-year-old Brady was just as confident as the 34-year-old version that takes the field every Sunday for the Patriots.

“I still have the image of Tom Brady coming down the old Foxboro stadium steps with that pizza box under his arm, a skinny beanpole, and when he introduced himself to me and said ‘Hi Mr. Kraft,’ he was about to say who he was, but I said ‘I know who you are, you’re Tom Brady. You’re our sixth round draft choice,’” recalled Kraft. “And he looked me in the eye and said ‘I’m the best decision this organization has ever made.’ It looks like he could be right.”

http://boston.cbslocal.com/2012/01/20/brady-told-patriots-kraft-im-best-decision-this-organization-has-ever-made/

DaneMcCloud
03-29-2013, 12:01 AM
Way to change the subject.

Are we talking about QBs or not? Make up your mind you twitchy little freak

I don't know: Are we?

Name a fucking Super Bowl winning QB that has a shitty fucking personality.

Go.

-------------

I told you back in October there'd be Hell to Pay and you laughed it up.

Bring it. Just fucking bring it.

RealSNR
03-29-2013, 12:02 AM
Brady was leading his teammates from the beginning, and his personality was there from day one.



http://boston.cbslocal.com/2012/01/20/brady-told-patriots-kraft-im-best-decision-this-organization-has-ever-made/

Yeah, that kind of scintillating personality is TOTALLY beyond the grasp of Geno Smith LMAO

RealSNR
03-29-2013, 12:02 AM
I don't know: Are we?

Name a fucking Super Bowl winning QB that has a shitty fucking personality.

Go.

-------------

I told you back in October there'd be Hell to Pay and you laughed it up.

Bring it. Just fucking bring it.

Ben Roethlisberger.

Ebolapox
03-29-2013, 12:03 AM
I'd send this via PM, but you aren't accepting them...

Dane, I love you like the great-granddaughter I never had... don't take this the wrong way, but is everything going ok with your family? last time you were like this, you came out a few days later saying that you were only venting. I completely get it; both of my in-laws are battling cancer... but it seems that you've gone a bit overboard lately. I can't be the only one who's brought this up, yeah?

DaneMcCloud
03-29-2013, 12:05 AM
Yeah, that kind of scintillating personality is TOTALLY beyond the grasp of Geno Smith LMAO

As if you know.

Your stupid ass can't tell the difference between a tight spiral and a speculum in your ass.

Ebolapox
03-29-2013, 12:05 AM
I don't know: Are we?

Name a ****ing Super Bowl winning QB that has a shitty ****ing personality.

Go.

-------------

I told you back in October there'd be Hell to Pay and you laughed it up.

Bring it. Just ****ing bring it.

Brad Johnson

Eli Manning (goofy-ass oreo commercials notwithstanding)

jeff hosstetler

jim mcmahan

mark rypien

RealSNR
03-29-2013, 12:06 AM
I already mentioned Brett Favre, but I'll do it again.

Brett Favre.

Just Passin' By
03-29-2013, 12:08 AM
Yeah, that kind of scintillating personality is TOTALLY beyond the grasp of Geno Smith LMAO

Don't get me involved in that part. You people with the Geno love are insane. I was just talking about Brady because you were lumping him in a category where he doesn't belong.

DaneMcCloud
03-29-2013, 12:11 AM
Brad Johnson

Eli Manning (goofy-ass oreo commercials notwithstanding)

jeff hosstetler

jim mcmahan

mark rypien

Exactly.

:)

DaneMcCloud
03-29-2013, 12:12 AM
I already mentioned Brett Favre, but I'll do it again.

Brett Favre.

No one likes him. He's never had a following or commercial endorsements.

RealSNR
03-29-2013, 12:13 AM
I'd send this via PM, but you aren't accepting them...

Dane, I love you like the great-granddaughter I never had... don't take this the wrong way, but is everything going ok with your family? last time you were like this, you came out a few days later saying that you were only venting. I completely get it; both of my in-laws are battling cancer... but it seems that you've gone a bit overboard lately. I can't be the only one who's brought this up, yeah?

I don't really care anymore. Dane was a little chippy before his thread about the health problems with his family, but at least he was legitimately talking football. There was really no need to apologize for his behavior.

Since posting that thread, he's turned into an unbearable asshole. If he's still just taking random potshots at whomever he comes across, then whatever. It's not a big deal. If it's because he's genuinely wound up, though, then he needs to take some Prozac or something.

ThaVirus
03-29-2013, 12:15 AM
Me and Dane have recently mended our relationship... So, he has that going for him.

Hammock Parties
03-29-2013, 12:16 AM
The answer to the riddle is: Dane McCloud did, does, and will always be an asshole.

DaneMcCloud
03-29-2013, 12:16 AM
Wince posting that thread, he's turned into an unbearable asshole. If he's still just taking random potshots at whomever he comes across, then whatever. It's not a big deal. If it's because he's genuinely wound up, though, then he needs to take some Prozac or something.

I'm unbearable.

Sure.

The guy that constantly advocates rape is cool, but I'm unbearable.

Good luck in this long life, SNR. Something tells me you're going to need it.

RealSNR
03-29-2013, 12:20 AM
Don't get me involved in that part. You people with the Geno love are insane. I was just talking about Brady because you were lumping him in a category where he doesn't belong.

Those kinds of comments from Kraft are worthless. It's completely revisionary.

You know how every draft personality and their mother is taking credit for "spotting" Russell Wilson? Same story here. I'm not saying I doubt that those encounters happened, but if Brady let's say wins only one Super Bowl, then nobody would even give a shit about Kraft's stories of Tom the boy wonder.

I'm not a Tom Brady scholar, but some stories about Tom's presence in the locker room and with the coaches when he was a 4th string rookie behind Michael Bishop leading up to the year he filled in for Drew Bledsoe and never looked back would do far more to disprove my guess that he was boring and non-dynamic.

DaneMcCloud
03-29-2013, 12:24 AM
I'm not a Tom Brady scholar, but some stories about Tom's presence in the locker room and with the coaches when he was a 4th string rookie behind Michael Bishop leading up to the year he filled in for Drew Bledsoe and never looked back would do far more to disprove my guess that he was boring and non-dynamic.

He was so non-dynamic that he married a Super Model worth more than $1 BILLION dollars.

Their new $20 million dollar home has a fucking MOAT.

Are you this fucking disconnected and stupid to compare a 6th round draft choice in 2000 that was passed over by literally EVERYONE, to Geno Fucking Smith, who has been evaluated by YOU and every fucking stupid CUNT that looks like you?

Seriously? You're dumber than I thought.

RealSNR
03-29-2013, 12:25 AM
I'm unbearable.

Sure.

The guy that constantly advocates rape is cool, but I'm unbearable.

Good luck in this long life, SNR. Something tells me you're going to need it.

Getting enjoyment from telling jokes that cross the line of decency on the internet means I need help with my warm, happy life?

Okay, Tipper Gore.

DaneMcCloud
03-29-2013, 12:27 AM
Getting enjoyment from telling jokes that cross the line of decency on the internet means I need help with my warm, happy life?

Okay, Tipper Gore.

More proof, thanks.

Let us know if you have something original to say.

I'll bet we'll all be waiting.

For a while.

Just Passin' By
03-29-2013, 12:27 AM
Those kinds of comments from Kraft are worthless. It's completely revisionary.

You know how every draft personality and their mother is taking credit for "spotting" Russell Wilson? Same story here. I'm not saying I doubt that those encounters happened, but if Brady let's say wins only one Super Bowl, then nobody would even give a shit about Kraft's stories of Tom the boy wonder.

I'm not a Tom Brady scholar, but some stories about Tom's presence in the locker room and with the coaches when he was a 4th string rookie behind Michael Bishop leading up to the year he filled in for Drew Bledsoe and never looked back would do far more to disprove my guess that he was boring and non-dynamic.

That story's been around since the beginning, as are the stories about him pulling all the backups together behind him and leading them even though he was the 4th string QB. As far as credit for Brady goes, most people give it to Rehbein.

I don't really want to get into the rest, because you seem to be confusing the idea of a mouthy TV personality with the ability to lead a locker room.

RealSNR
03-29-2013, 12:29 AM
He was so non-dynamic that he married a Super Model worth more than $1 BILLION dollars.

Their new $20 million dollar home has a fucking MOAT.

Are you this fucking disconnected and stupid to compare a 6th round draft choice in 2000 that was passed over by literally EVERYONE, to Geno Fucking Smith, who has been evaluated by YOU and every fucking stupid CUNT that looks like you?

Seriously? You're dumber than I thought.
Keep putting words in my mouth, retard. You might trick one or two people.

I said Tom Brady was probably a boring asshole until he started winning games. It's about having a "dynamic personality," which is the term you used.

He won a Super Bowl and then married a super model and got all this money shoved in his face.

YA DON'T SAY???? IT MUST HAVE BEEN HIS DYNAMIC PERSONALITY!

RealSNR
03-29-2013, 12:32 AM
More proof, thanks.

Let us know if you have something original to say.

I'll bet we'll all be waiting.

For a while.

Now you're saying I never say anything "original"?

Good God, did Tom Cash put a mind control chip in your brain as a way to post on Chiefs Planet without people immediately singling him out as another mult?

DaneMcCloud
03-29-2013, 12:32 AM
Keep putting words in my mouth, retard. You might trick one or two people.

I said Tom Brady was probably a boring asshole until he started winning games. It's about having a "dynamic personality," which is the term you used.

He won a Super Bowl and then married a super model and got all this money shoved in his face.

YA DON'T SAY???? IT MUST HAVE BEEN HIS DYNAMIC PERSONALITY!

Again, you're dumber than I ever thought.

Hopefully, that shit worked for you before, because it ain't working now.

007
03-29-2013, 12:37 AM
I actually had a dream today that I was in the war room at the draft and the Chiefs actually selected Geno. I have never had a dream about the Chiefs in my life. It was so friggin odd.

Hell, I wasn't even thinking about the Chiefs last night.

RealSNR
03-29-2013, 12:40 AM
Go post another apology thread and get people to feel sorry for you. I've gone out of my way to be polite to you ever since you came back. In that time, you've more than once thrown baseless insults at me and declared "The gloves are coming off," yet I ignored it and let you blow off steam. I'm getting sick of it.

Go ahead and be an asshole and use Chiefs Planet as your personal stress-relieving punching bag. Just know that the next time you re-evaluate your behavior and issue an apology to the community, people will remember that you have a tendency to pull this kind of shit all the time.

Good night, Dane.

penbrook
03-29-2013, 12:41 AM
I actually had a dream today that I was in the war room at the draft and the Chiefs actually selected Geno. I have never had a dream about the Chiefs in my life. It was so friggin odd.

Hell, I wasn't even thinking about the Chiefs last night.

Hopefully your dream comes true..

007
03-29-2013, 12:46 AM
Hopefully your dream comes true..
What made it so odd to me is because I am torn on Geno. While I would love to have him here, I think drafting him with 1:1 is a mistake.

DaneMcCloud
03-29-2013, 12:47 AM
Go post another apology thread and get people to feel sorry for you.

Go fuck yourself. Repeatedly.

I've gone out of my way to be polite to you ever since you came back. In that time, you've more than once thrown baseless insults at me and declared "The gloves are coming off," yet I ignored it and let you blow off steam. I'm getting sick of it.

LMAO

So, whatcha got? Gonna talk about another man's penis some more?

NTTATWWT.

Go ahead and be an asshole and use Chiefs Planet as your personal stress-relieving punching bag.

Personal punching bag?

LMAO

You and your band of fucking Know-nothing idiots are my "punching bag".

Just know that the next time you re-evaluate your behavior and issue an apology to the community, people will remember that you have a tendency to pull this kind of shit all the time.

Well, that's nice.

Just "let it be known" that I'll fucking hammer your stupid ass, like, for fucking, EVER.

So, bring it, you fucking assclown.

BRING IT.

Good night, Dane.

Fuck you.

penbrook
03-29-2013, 12:51 AM
What made it so odd to me is because I am torn on Geno. While I would love to have him here, I think drafting him with 1:1 is a mistake.

Why do you think it will be a mistake?

DaneMcCloud
03-29-2013, 12:52 AM
Why do you think it will be a mistake?

How do you have nearly 1,000 posts in a month?

penbrook
03-29-2013, 12:53 AM
How do you have nearly 1,000 posts in a month?

Takes dedication..

DaneMcCloud
03-29-2013, 12:54 AM
Good night, Dane.

Better rest up. Get some energy pills. Rape a few students.

You're over, Fuckness.

007
03-29-2013, 12:55 AM
Why do you think it will be a mistake?

I guess it all depends on if we can trade out of it. If we absolutely cannot find any trade partners to to trade down, and Geno is considered their BPA then I'll be happy with it. I just can't believe there isn't a team out there that we can't get a few picks out of for 1:1.

penbrook
03-29-2013, 12:57 AM
I guess it all depends on if we can trade out of it. If we absolutely cannot find any trade partners to to trade down, and Geno is considered their BPA then I'll be happy with it. I just can't believe there isn't a team out there that we can't get a few picks out of for 1:1.

Only teams that are interested in Geno are the Bills and Eagles.

RealSNR
03-29-2013, 01:01 AM
"You're over."

What does that mean, Dane? I might interpret that as a personal threat if I didn't know you were a fucking pussy.

penbrook
03-29-2013, 01:03 AM
"You're over."

What does that mean, Dane? I might interpret that as a personal threat if I didn't know you were a ****ing pussy.

Dane has been a douche as of late...

Started going off on me saying we have 6 holes to fill on this team.

ArmyChief
03-29-2013, 01:50 AM
Interesting. I've never thought he was worth the #1 overall anyway. He's getting hyped up by the media. He has potential to be a good QB, gut he's not Day one starter material. That's the point of drafting a QB #1 overall.

keg in kc
03-29-2013, 02:14 AM
He's getting hyped up by the media.I'm trying to think of anybody in the media who's been hyping him up at all at any point.

PA Chiefs
03-29-2013, 04:39 AM
Wondering in a trade back situation is Dion Jordan (or another pass rusher)+EJ Manuel better then just Geno because who ever we pick up is going to sit and learn for a year or two and then the pass rusher can be used from day one

AdumbGuy
03-29-2013, 04:54 AM
I'd seriously like to know who in this draft has done more at their respective positions than Geno has done at his.

Who are these mythical Top-10 guys that Geno doesn't fall into/can't beat out that have shown more potential at the next level for their position than Geno?

Werner? Jones? Lotulelei? Joeckel? Fisher? Jordan?

Sorry, but I don't see it.

This. It's like while all the other positions are being compared to each other (Fisher to Joekel) Geno's being compared to Drew Brees and Tom Brady.

Also ridiculous that everybody thinks that somebody at 1.1 should come in and start immediately. Why? Because everybody else will think we're dumb? Santa forbid we let our franchise cornerstone acclimate before getting thrown into a game - people that still think Cassel is serviceable will think we're being silly!

To me, Geno, purported warts and all, is the best player at the most important position in this draft. If somebody can present an argument against that statement, I'm willing to listen, but otherwise, kiss my shiny metal ass.

We can draft Geno at 1.1 or we can trade for picks and hope the QB next year is better AND that our picks are high enough that we can get him. Seems a far bigger gamble than just picking up Geno.

R8RFAN
03-29-2013, 05:03 AM
This reminds me of when the Cheap fans thought they were getting Manning LMAO

Mr_Tomahawk
03-29-2013, 05:47 AM
Good Article.

Thanks for posting.

Geno is overrated on this board. Not that I wouldn't be ectatic if we selected him 1 overall. I just don't think he is an absolute sure thing as many do on this board. I see bust potential in him...

Chiefs=Champions
03-29-2013, 05:49 AM
This reminds me of when the Cheap fans thought they were getting Manning LMAO

You have your own cesspool to worry about. Try finding something positive about the potential of trading for flynn

Chiefs=Champions
03-29-2013, 05:54 AM
Good Article.

Thanks for posting.

Geno is overrated on this board. Not that I wouldn't be ectatic if we selected him 1 overall. I just don't think he is an absolute sure thing as many do on this board. I see bust potential in him...

http://chan.konata.cz/b/thumb/133642309685s.jpg

Mr_Tomahawk
03-29-2013, 06:00 AM
http://chan.konata.cz/b/thumb/133642309685s.jpg

:LOL:LMAO

Kind of how I envision Geno homers when they read this article...."daaaaar, not true not true, Geno has a big penis, blah blah blah numbers,blah penis, blah irrelevant .jpg blah blah, hammmmmm."

ForeverChiefs58
03-29-2013, 06:29 AM
Interesting. I've never thought he was worth the #1 overall anyway. He's getting hyped up by the media. He has potential to be a good QB, gut he's not Day one starter material. That's the point of drafting a QB #1 overall.

Geno has never been hyped by any media. I believe as chiefs fans we have seen all these other teams draft a QB who fell a little in the draft because they were not a media darling, eg. Rodgers, Flacco, Kaepernick, Wilson etc. The chiefs have gambled and lost getting their QB. We have wanted to draft a QB in the first and didnt. In hindsight, some of the QB's fans wanted didnt turn out. Who gives a shit? So draft another one. Fans also aren't paid scouts. Find the QB and draft him early. Stats show that usually pays off in the end playing the name of the game the chiefs owner invented.

patteeu
03-29-2013, 07:21 AM
Dane has been a douche as of late...

Started going off on me saying we have 6 holes to fill on this team.

You joined in Feb 2013 and now you're our historian?

Chiefshrink
03-29-2013, 07:38 AM
Meh.

i thought it was a fair article. He didn't really say anything that others haven't said about Geno already.

Geno isn't a perfect QB. I've never said that. But I've always felt that the raw talent is there and that it's worth taking a risk on. If the Chiefs drafted him and sat him until Alex flamed out, it's a win/win.

This a 1000x !!!

Chiefshrink
03-29-2013, 07:42 AM
Wondering in a trade back situation is Dion Jordan (or another pass rusher)+EJ Manuel better then just Geno because who ever we pick up is going to sit and learn for a year or two and then the pass rusher can be used from day one

and why Childress was hired because he is the special offensive spread asst as some have said;). Your intuition is right on and whether it is Smith, Emanuel or whoever, we ARE TAKING A QB but we just don't know when during the draft.

Sweet Daddy Hate
03-29-2013, 02:52 PM
So let me get this straight; Prisco writes a Yosimite Sam piece( what are the Chiefs THINKING trading for another retread QB???rassaifrassin-rassafrassin! Etc), and then switches to "the best QB prospect in the draft just ain't worth it"!

So which is it, you Metamucil-guzzlin' motherfucker???
Posted via Mobile Device

DaneMcCloud
03-29-2013, 11:53 PM
"You're over."

What does that mean, Dane? I might interpret that as a personal threat if I didn't know you were a fucking pussy.

Your evaluation skills are almost as good as your linguistics.

:shake:

Tone Deaf retard.

DaneMcCloud
03-29-2013, 11:54 PM
Dane has been a douche as of late...

Started going off on me saying we have 6 holes to fill on this team.

"As of late"?

Which MULT are you, n00b?

DaneMcCloud
03-29-2013, 11:55 PM
I'm trying to think of anybody in the media who's been hyping him up at all at any point.

Bingo.

Only obsessed Chiefsplanet members, some who have backed off, if not outright disappeared, have "hyped" him.

DaneMcCloud
03-29-2013, 11:56 PM
So let me get this straight; Prisco writes a Yosimite Sam piece( what are the Chiefs THINKING trading for another retread QB???rassaifrassin-rassafrassin! Etc), and then switches to "the best QB prospect in the draft just ain't worth it"!

So which is it, you Metamucil-guzzlin' motherfucker???
Posted via Mobile Device

Link us to your work.

Ebolapox
03-29-2013, 11:57 PM
is there any way we can have any Qb-related thread not turn into a Dane vs. the world insult-fest?

Ebolapox
03-29-2013, 11:58 PM
I mean, seriously--if you don't like each other (and it's obvious that there are a LOT of frayed nerves), just freaking put each other on ignore.

DaneMcCloud
03-29-2013, 11:59 PM
Go post another apology thread and get people to feel sorry for you. I've gone out of my way to be polite to you ever since you came back. In that time, you've more than once thrown baseless insults at me and declared "The gloves are coming off," yet I ignored it and let you blow off steam. I'm getting sick of it.

Go ahead and be an asshole and use Chiefs Planet as your personal stress-relieving punching bag. Just know that the next time you re-evaluate your behavior and issue an apology to the community, people will remember that you have a tendency to pull this kind of shit all the time.

Good night, Dane.

Once again, Fuck You.

Good luck humping your ever shrinking Geno crowd.

Pretty soon, you'll be left holding your shriveled dick in your hand.

Most likely sooner than later.

RealSNR
03-29-2013, 11:59 PM
Your evaluation skills are almost as good as your linguistics.

:shake:

Tone Deaf retard.You should try properly using the word "linguistics" in a sentence, Einstein.

God, you really are Tom Cash. I can't fucking tell the difference between you two.

DaneMcCloud
03-29-2013, 11:59 PM
is there any way we can have any Qb-related thread not turn into a Dane vs. the world insult-fest?

If these Geno Fucktards would stop insulting me, there wouldn't be an issue.

DaneMcCloud
03-30-2013, 12:01 AM
You should try properly using the word "linguistics" in a sentence, Einstein.

God, you really are Tom Cash. I can't fucking tell the difference between you two.

And 99.99% of the members here can't tell the difference between you and him, either.

I told you back in October, there would be hell to pay with your incessant bullshit about Geno Smith.

Welcome to Hell, Cunt.

Ebolapox
03-30-2013, 12:01 AM
I mean, seriously--if you don't like each other (and it's obvious that there are a LOT of frayed nerves), just freaking put each other on ignore.

let me guess....


MOTHERFUCK YOU, EBOLAPOX. YOU FESTERING PILE OF MONKEY SHIT WHO FISTFUCKS YOUR OWN FATHER. RAWR RAWR RANDOM CREATIVE INSULT FOLLOWED BY CLICHE! BLAH BLAH

DaneMcCloud
03-30-2013, 12:02 AM
let me guess....


MOTHERFUCK YOU, EBOLAPOX. YOU FESTERING PILE OF MONKEY SHIT WHO FISTFUCKS YOUR OWN FATHER. RAWR RAWR RANDOM CREATIVE INSULT FOLLOWED BY CLICHE! BLAH BLAH

Wrong.

Ebolapox
03-30-2013, 12:02 AM
If these Geno ****tards would stop insulting me, there wouldn't be an issue.

don't take this the wrong way, but I can quote several of your posts where you've gone after them unprovoked.

it's a two way street, man. it's clear that something is off here. you've always been a bit on tilt, but this seems WAY moreso. hope all is well with you, but it doesn't take a freaking pshrink to see that you're using the board as a scratching post.

Ebolapox
03-30-2013, 12:03 AM
Wrong.

dammit. I was kinda hoping I'd get a few creative insults thrown my way :sulk:

(psst... can you at least throw a FUCK YOU ASSHOLE?)

RealSNR
03-30-2013, 12:04 AM
And 99.99% of the members here can't tell the difference between you and him, either.

I told you back in October, there would be hell to pay with your incessant bullshit about Geno Smith.

Welcome to Hell, Cunt.

You brought this bullshit on yourself.

I eagerly anticipate your next apology thread, you fucking psycho.

RealSNR
03-30-2013, 12:05 AM
don't take this the wrong way, but I can quote several of your posts where you've gone after them unprovoked.

it's a two way street, man. it's clear that something is off here. you've always been a bit on tilt, but this seems WAY moreso. hope all is well with you, but it doesn't take a freaking pshrink to see that you're using the board as a scratching post.

Get fucked. There will be hell to pay. You are done, shit fucker. You ill-educated tone deaf moron. I will end you.

(How's that?)

Ebolapox
03-30-2013, 12:07 AM
Get ****ed. There will be hell to pay. You are done, shit ****er. You ill-educated tone deaf moron. I will end you.

(How's that?)

throw an angry gif on there and I'd think that was from hamas.

AussieChiefsFan
03-30-2013, 12:08 AM
throw an angry gif on there and I'd think that was from hamas.Like this?

http://vjarmy.com/junkbin/gtfo.gif

MeatRock
03-30-2013, 12:08 AM
Looks to me like Dane is firing back at the obsessive Geno crowd, as anyone has noticed, his post's are all in Geno threads. There are a shitload of them. Anyone that had a different view on who to draft got insulted so what goes around comes around i suppose.

DaneMcCloud
03-30-2013, 12:09 AM
don't take this the wrong way, but I can quote several of your posts where you've gone after them unprovoked.

it's a two way street, man. it's clear that something is off here. you've always been a bit on tilt, but this seems WAY moreso. hope all is well with you, but it doesn't take a freaking pshrink to see that you're using the board as a scratching post.

As I've said before, I am SO tired of this small band of fucktards ruining every fucking thread, related or unrelated, with "Geno Smith".

Geno Smith is NOT a legitmate first round QB. Period, end of story.

Teams are trading out at will to avoid drafting him. SNR and his band of assholes have spammed every fucking thread for the past six months with "Geno Smith", despite the fact that every legitimate news source has said he's NOT a Franchise QB.

It doesn't matter if it's Peter King or Pete Prisco or Mike Florio or anyone else with their hand on the pulse of NFL front offices that have said that Smith ISN'T a Franchise QB, SNR and his band of IQ challenged miscreants have labeled anyone that disagreed with their assessment as "Assholes, blowhard, dumbfucks, morons", etc. and so on.

He's wrong. His "Party of Five" is wrong. Smith is just a guy.

So, do us all a favor, SNR, and shut the fuck up.

DaneMcCloud
03-30-2013, 12:10 AM
You brought this bullshit on yourself.

I eagerly anticipate your next apology thread, you fucking psycho.

Just like BossChief.

WEAK.

Not that I expected more. Your posts, prior to the past six months, have been uninteresting and boring.

At least you made a name for yourself. Good on you.

Now, shut the fuck up.

penbrook
03-30-2013, 12:11 AM
As I've said before, I am SO tired of this small band of ****tards ruining every ****ing thread, related or unrelated, with "Geno Smith".

Geno Smith is NOT a legitmate first round QB. Period, end of story.

Teams are trading out at will to avoid drafting him. SNR and his band of assholes have spammed every ****ing thread for the past six months with "Geno Smith", despite the fact that every legitimate news source has said he's NOT a Franchise QB.

It doesn't matter if it's Peter King or Pete Prisco or Mike Florio or anyone else with their hand on the pulse of NFL front offices that have said that Smith ISN'T a Franchise QB, SNR and his band of IQ challenged miscreants have labeled anyone that disagreed with their assessment as "Assholes, blowhard, dumb****s, morons", etc. and so on.

He's wrong. His "Party of Five" is wrong. Smith is just a guy.

So, do us all a favor and shut the **** up.

Daniel Jeremiah who was a Scout for around 8 years said he only sees Geno Smith as the only qb to be a franchise qb in this draft. There is a scouts perspective.

ShowtimeSBMVP
03-30-2013, 12:12 AM
Daniel Jeremiah who was a Scout for around 8 years said he only sees Geno Smith as the only qb to be a franchise qb in this draft. There is a scouts perspective.

And Daniel said he's not a top 10 QB but some team will reach.

DaneMcCloud
03-30-2013, 12:12 AM
Daniel Jeremiah who was a Scout for around 8 years said he only sees Geno Smith as the only qb to be a franchise qb in this draft. There is a scouts perspective.

Daniel Jeremiah hasn't been unemployed by any NFL teams for years.

Shut the fuck up, n00b.

ShowtimeSBMVP
03-30-2013, 12:14 AM
Daniel Jeremiah ✔ @MoveTheSticks

I'm studying Geno Smith tape. Reminds me of Alex Smith coming out of Utah


Daniel Jeremiah ✔ @MoveTheSticks

Geno Smith and Alex Smith are very similar in build and athleticism. Geno has a little more arm and Alex was a little more accurate.

RealSNR
03-30-2013, 12:15 AM
Looks to me like Dane is firing back at the obsessive Geno crowd, as anyone has noticed, his post's are all in Geno threads. There are a shitload of them. Anyone that had a different view on who to draft got insulted so what goes around comes around i suppose.

Geno talk stayed in Geno Smith threads. If somebody baselessly said, "Geno Smith will be a bust like Vince Young" (happened a LOT) then people were questioned on why they thought that way. Usually they were the first ones to snap back. IN THE GENO SMITH THREADS.

You have your way of remember how Geno Smith was talked about on Chiefs Planet this past season. And it's not even remotely close to what actually took place, though. There wasn't a band of posters that hurled insults and infected threads with "Fuck off if you don't like Geno."

This is what htismaqe was trying to tell people before he got frustrated with the Alex Smith trade and left. A shame, because he's a superior football poster to 99% of what comes across this forum.

ShowtimeSBMVP
03-30-2013, 12:16 AM
Geno talk stayed in Geno Smith threads. If somebody baselessly said, "Geno Smith will be a bust like Vince Young" (happened a LOT) then people were questioned on why they thought that way. Usually they were the first ones to snap back. IN THE GENO SMITH THREADS.

You have your way of remember how Geno Smith was talked about on Chiefs Planet this past season. And it's not even remotely close to what actually took place, though. There wasn't a band of posters that hurled insults and infected threads with "**** off if you don't like Geno."

This is what htismaqe was trying to tell people before he got frustrated with the Alex Smith trade and left. A shame, because he's a superior football poster to 99% of what comes across this forum.


Not true at all if anyone made a thread about another top 10 prospect they got killed.

BossChief
03-30-2013, 12:17 AM
Damn near every respected poster on this site LOVES Geno Smith.

You know why, Dane?

We watched the games and posted in the game threads the whole year. It's not just 5 posters, if you post a poll right now on if you want Geno or anybody else with the pick, 90% will vote for Geno.

DaneMcCloud
03-30-2013, 12:18 AM
Geno talk stayed in Geno Smith threads.

Lie #1

If somebody baselessly said, "Geno Smith will be a bust like Vince Young" (happened a LOT) then people were questioned on why they thought that way. Usually they were the first ones to snap back. IN THE GENO SMITH THREADS.

Lie #2

You have your way of remember how Geno Smith was talked about on Chiefs Planet this past season. And it's not even remotely close to what actually took place, though. There wasn't a band of posters that hurled insults and infected threads with "Fuck off if you don't like Geno."

Lie #3

This is what htismaqe was trying to tell people before he got frustrated with the Alex Smith trade and left. A shame, because he's a superior football poster to 99% of what comes across this forum.

Fuck him. He's a fucking pussy that has ALWAYS run off when his opinions were challenged.

ALWAYS.

Oh, and fuck you, too.

DaneMcCloud
03-30-2013, 12:18 AM
Damn near every respected poster on this site LOVES Geno Smith.

You know why, Dane?

We watched the games and posted in the game threads the whole year. It's not just 5 posters, if you post a poll right now on if you want Geno or anybody else with the pick, 90% will vote for Geno.

LMAO

BossChief
03-30-2013, 12:20 AM
Daniel Jeremiah ✔ @MoveTheSticks

I'm studying Geno Smith tape. Reminds me of Alex Smith coming out of Utah


Daniel Jeremiah ✔ @MoveTheSticks

Geno Smith and Alex Smith are very similar in build and athleticism. Geno has a little more arm and Alex was a little more accurate.

Exactly.

He is comparing him to Alex Smith COMING OUT OF UTAH.

You know, when he was the first overall pick.

RealSNR
03-30-2013, 12:20 AM
Not true at all if anyone made a thread about another top 10 prospect they got killed.

Bull fucking shit. If people had reservations about Barkley or Wilson they stayed out of the threads.

penbrook
03-30-2013, 12:20 AM
Dane just a question. What are some of your reasons why you dont think Geno is a franchise qb.

MeatRock
03-30-2013, 12:22 AM
Dane just a question. What are some of your reasons why you dont think Geno is a franchise qb.

LMAOLMAOLMAO:drool:

O.city
03-30-2013, 12:23 AM
I see things have gotten personnel round here tonight, guess te draft is approaching

RealSNR
03-30-2013, 12:24 AM
Just like BossChief.

WEAK.

Not that I expected more. Your posts, prior to the past six months, have been uninteresting and boring.

At least you made a name for yourself. Good on you.

Now, shut the fuck up.

I have no fucking clue what you're talking about. BossChief? At least I made a name for myself?

Again, it doesn't take Ebola to notice that you've gone off the deep end since these struggles in your life. I've decided recently to keep pushing your buttons on this because I'm sick and fucking tired of tip-toeing around you and your unreasonably quick and violent temper.

As for the past six months and before, did you not just post this a short while ago?

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=270240

So, this issue, which is completely unrelated to this forum, began to manifest itself. I began "playfully" poking at people for their views on a QB. My unrelated feelings and anger began to take over and I felt cathartic and a release arguing over a certain QB that people that I respect and would at any other time, call friends.

I was pretty out of control in late January and without going back to read what I posted, probably completely out of control in February. I was releasing all this energy, which has been enormous, to say the least. This forum allowed me to do just that...

...Anyway, my apologies to SNR, BossChief, DJ, Htis, Milkman, etc. for putting up my nonsense. As I said, it's been a release and I appreciate the fact that you guys haven't totally lost it with me
When's the next volley going to come, Dane? When are you going to take a break from Chiefs Planet, come back, and then realize that using this forum as a vessel for frustration and anger isn't remotely healthy?

Seriously, get some help.

Hammock Parties
03-30-2013, 12:24 AM
Dane just a question. What are some of your reasons why you dont think Geno is a franchise qb.

BECAUSE SOME MEDIA GUYS SAID SO

BossChief
03-30-2013, 12:24 AM
LMAO

Every poll has been a landslide in favor of Geno.

You are currently saying that posters like Milk, Deez, OTWP, DJ, myself, Htis, and SNR are football stupid in regards to our takes on Geno?

penbrook
03-30-2013, 12:27 AM
Alright Dane if you hate Geno as much as you say you do than you wouldnt have a problem leaving Chiefsplanet forever if the Chiefs do select Geno.

O.city
03-30-2013, 12:28 AM
Pen book are you 12?

ShowtimeSBMVP
03-30-2013, 12:29 AM
Bull ****ing shit. If people had reservations about Barkley or Wilson they stayed out of the threads.

http://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=268622&highlight=luke+joeckel&page=5


This is a fun thread.

penbrook
03-30-2013, 12:30 AM
Pen book are you 12?

Damn it you caught me..

RealSNR
03-30-2013, 12:31 AM
http://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=268622&highlight=luke+joeckel&page=5


This is a fun thread.

I'm talking about the other QBs, douchefart.

Luke Joeckel, is, was, and forever will be a terrible decision for the Chiefs if they decide to draft him at 1.1

MeatRock
03-30-2013, 12:34 AM
Was just about to call penbook a dumbass, but it's not needed.

ShowtimeSBMVP
03-30-2013, 12:40 AM
I'm talking about the other QBs, douchefart.

Luke Joeckel, is, was, and forever will be a terrible decision for the Chiefs if they decide to draft him at 1.1

The last 3 to 4 months the Geno Crowd derailed any thread that had the chiefs taking anyone but Geno.

DaneMcCloud
03-30-2013, 12:42 AM
Seriously, get some help.

Seriously, fuck you.

RealSNR
03-30-2013, 12:43 AM
The last 3 to 4 months the Geno Crowd derailed any thread that had the chiefs taking anyone but Geno.

Not Matt Barkley or Tyler Wilson.

Get your facts straight. Do I have to tweet it out for you to fucking understand it?

penbrook
03-30-2013, 12:45 AM
Dane is just a worthless piece of shit

silver5liter
03-30-2013, 12:46 AM
The last 3 to 4 months the Geno Crowd derailed any thread that had the chiefs taking anyone but Geno.

And you have posted every bullshit anti geno story you can find. It all evens out.

DaneMcCloud
03-30-2013, 12:46 AM
Every poll has been a landslide in favor of Geno.

You are currently saying that posters like Milk, Deez, OTWP, DJ, myself, Htis, and SNR are football stupid in regards to our takes on Geno?

I don't give a flying fuck what you think.

You're the same FUCKING MORON that thought Ricky Stanzi was worth a 2nd round pick in 2011 when I said he was a fifth.

Guess where he went?

You're the same flying douchefuck that said just last month, you'd STILL spend a 2nd round pick on Stanzi.

Furthermore, you're the same fucking ignorant buttfuck that as a Direct TV installer, had NO IDEA what an LED LCD TV was earlier this month. Hamas Jenkins was so taken back that he said "That's frightening".

You're the same fucking INVALID that keeps reciting the JJ draft compensation chart, even though I've told you REPEATEDLY that it's INVALID.

The Bad Guy CONFIRMED it tonight.

JFC, how many more ways should I prove that you're fucking stupid? Take your DNA?

Ming the Merciless
03-30-2013, 12:48 AM
Pen book are you 12?

That is a fairly accurate IQ estimate, based on my data.

DaneMcCloud
03-30-2013, 12:48 AM
Not Matt Barkley or Tyler Wilson.

Get your facts straight. Do I have to tweet it out for you to fucking understand it?

It's hilarious to see your weaknesses.

Apparently, unless someone tells you something or there's a bandwagon to join, you have no valid response.

So, I'll ask you outright: If the Chiefs don't want Smith and the Raiders don't want Smith, what does that say about Smith?

Are you able to put one and one together or is that over your head?

DaneMcCloud
03-30-2013, 12:49 AM
Alright Dane if you hate Geno as much as you say you do than you wouldnt have a problem leaving Chiefsplanet forever if the Chiefs do select Geno.

Fuck you and and everyone that, unfortunately for them, looks like you.

penbrook
03-30-2013, 12:50 AM
That is a fairly accurate IQ estimate, based on my data.

And what data is that

DaneMcCloud
03-30-2013, 12:50 AM
And what data is that

Go to bed, child

penbrook
03-30-2013, 12:51 AM
It's hilarious to see your weaknesses.

Apparently, unless someone tells you something or there's a bandwagon to join, you have no valid response.

So, I'll ask you outright: If the Chiefs don't want Smith and the Raiders don't want Smith, what does that say about Smith?

Are you able to put one and one together or is that over your head?

The Chiefs never said once that they didnt want Geno. Get your fucking facts straight and quit pulling bullshit out of your ass.

ShowtimeSBMVP
03-30-2013, 12:53 AM
The Chiefs never said once that they didnt want Geno. Get your ****ing facts straight and quit pulling bullshit out of your ass.

I think the fact that they traded for Alex Smith and gave Chase Daniels 3m a year.

RealSNR
03-30-2013, 12:53 AM
It's hilarious to see your weaknesses.

Apparently, unless someone tells you something or there's a bandwagon to join, you have no valid response.

So, I'll ask you outright: If the Chiefs don't want Smith and the Raiders don't want Smith, what does that say about Smith?

Are you able to put one and one together or is that over your head?

Do you know what a logical fallacy is, Dane? And if you ever made one, would you be able to spot it?

I want to see if you're legitimately this dumb, or if it's just something wrong with "your linguistics" (sic)

DaneMcCloud
03-30-2013, 12:54 AM
The Chiefs never said once that they didnt want Geno. Get your fucking facts straight and quit pulling bullshit out of your ass.

LMAO

Go to bed before I call your Mom.

She's out whoring and will be pissed if I interrupt her while she's with a client.

Ming the Merciless
03-30-2013, 12:55 AM
And what data is that

1000 purely shittastic posts

A hyundai

Dental dam

Penis pump

Small sized cock rings

A tarp

One tub of criisco

An etch a sketch with a crudely drawn hairy penis

DaneMcCloud
03-30-2013, 12:56 AM
An etch a sketch with a crudely drawn hairy penis

How crudely?

:D

MeatRock
03-30-2013, 12:56 AM
1000 purely shittastic posts

A hyundai

Dental dam

Penis pump

Small sized cock rings

A tarp

One tub of criisco

An etch a sketch with a crudely drawn hairy penis

LMAO

AussieChiefsFan
03-30-2013, 12:57 AM
1000 purely shittastic posts

A hyundai

Dental dam

Penis pump

Small sized cock rings

A tarp

One tub of criisco

An etch a sketch with a crudely drawn hairy penisROFL

Hammock Parties
03-30-2013, 12:58 AM
we need dear friend direckshun to create a "IT'S A DANE THREAD" pic for when threads go off the rails like this in the future.

Ming the Merciless
03-30-2013, 12:59 AM
How crudely?

:D
Perhaps something rivaling the art of a 5 year old disabled child who had been raised by raiders fans

penbrook
03-30-2013, 12:59 AM
I think the fact that they traded for Alex Smith and gave Chase Daniels 3m a year.

The fact that they didnt give Alex Smith an extension is saying something. IF Geno comes here the combines salarys of all three qbs will be less than your franchise qb who takes you to the playoffs. If Reid feels like Geno is good than draft him. Dorsey said we dont have any holes left on this team so draft BPA.

AussieChiefsFan
03-30-2013, 01:00 AM
Perhaps something rivaling the art of a 5 year old disabled child who had been raised by raiders fansLMAO LMAO

BossChief
03-30-2013, 01:01 AM
I don't give a flying fuck what you think.

You're the same FUCKING MORON that thought Ricky Stanzi was worth a 2nd round pick in 2011 when I said he was a fifth.

Guess where he went?

You're the same flying douchefuck that said just last month, you'd STILL spend a 2nd round pick on Stanzi.

Furthermore, you're the same fucking ignorant buttfuck that as a Direct TV installer, had NO IDEA what an LED LCD TV was earlier this month. Hamas Jenkins was so taken back that he said "That's frightening".

You're the same fucking INVALID that keeps reciting the JJ draft compensation
chart, even though I've told you REPEATEDLY that it's INVALID.

The Bad Guy CONFIRMED it tonight.

JFC, how many more ways should I prove that you're fucking stupid? Take your DNA?

You are a sad, sad man.

Hamas never said that...he said that when SNR didn't know "we've only just begun". Get your shit straight.

You are supposed to be some multi millionaire, but your "man cave" only has a 42" tv. How big is that cave to only need that size of tv? I have a bigger tv mounted to the wall in my third bedroom. ROFL

I can tell you one thing, it's not a big room in a multimillion dollar house...Those take tvs you have to be able to see from farther than 13 feet.

Sounds like the wifey gave you a spare bedroom to call your mancave. ROFL

The draft value chart isn't invalid. Do some fucking research, damn near every draft trade last year used the chart. I don't give a fuck what your dumbfuck opinion is on that topic.

DaneMcCloud
03-30-2013, 01:02 AM
Perhaps something rivaling the art of a 5 year old disabled child who had been raised by raiders fans

And people say *I* go too far.

ROFL

AussieChiefsFan
03-30-2013, 01:05 AM
And people say *I* go too far.

ROFLYeah but Pawnmower just does it so subtly. He doesn't personally direct anything at anyone (usually lol). He just comes in, says some weird shit and leaves it at that. LMAO

BossChief
03-30-2013, 01:07 AM
Pawn is so much more entertaining since Cassel is gone....

B14ckmon
03-30-2013, 01:09 AM
Prisco aka the guy who calls everyone moron on Twitter like a bitter old man. The guy is a moron and absolutely despises the Jaguars because he got so much shit for being awful when he covered the team.

MeatRock
03-30-2013, 01:13 AM
Prisco aka the guy who calls everyone moron on Twitter like a bitter old man. The guy is a moron and absolutely despises the Jaguars because he got so much shit for being awful when he covered the team.

Who besides you, gives a fuck about the Jaguars?

Ming the Merciless
03-30-2013, 01:15 AM
I actually agree with penisbook.....

I'm just being goofy.....I mean honestly it looks like s done deal. We are trying to dish Albert, so we will draft Fisher or joekel. We gonna roll with Smith. Maybe we can get a 2 nd rounder for 76.

I think were gonna suck pretty Bad again but hey its not like it would've been better in 13 with geno....

Yes I am bummed. No its not how I would've done things...but clearly I'm just a dude so I can just sit back and laugh/cry

Maybe in next year or 2 we can see the long term plans come together...ill settle for 8-8 in 13'

B14ckmon
03-30-2013, 01:17 AM
The rest of the NFL world thinks the Chiefs will be good this year. Be a better fan.

Ming the Merciless
03-30-2013, 01:20 AM
The rest of the NFL world thinks the Chiefs will be good this year. Be a better fan.

Oh really! What's the over under on wins?

RealSNR
03-30-2013, 01:22 AM
Penisbook not mightier than the sword

DaneMcCloud
03-30-2013, 01:37 AM
You are a sad, sad man.

Hamas never said that

Yeah, you're right. For whatever reason, he was much nicer to you than I would have been:

What's an led LCD?

How do you not know that given your job? :)

You are supposed to be some multi millionaire, but your "man cave" only has a 42" tv. How big is that cave to only need that size of tv? I have a bigger tv mounted to the wall in my third bedroom. ROFL

I have a 46", a 47", a 42", a 37" and a 70", most of which are LED's.

I can tell you one thing, it's not a big room in a multimillion dollar house...Those take tvs you have to be able to see from farther than 13 feet.

Hit me up when your house is worth more than my car.

Sounds like the wifey gave you a spare bedroom to call your mancave. ROFL

And as usual, you live in a fantasy land.


The draft value chart isn't invalid. Do some fucking research, damn near every draft trade last year used the chart. I don't give a fuck what your dumbfuck opinion is on that topic.

Right.

Frank said it was invalid. I said it was invalid. Damn near every agent I've spoken to this offseason says it's invalid.

But you know what's really invalid? You.

DaneMcCloud
03-30-2013, 01:39 AM
The rest of the NFL world thinks the Chiefs will be good this year. Be a better fan.

If the Chiefs don't win nine or more this year, I'll be beyond fucking pissed.

BossChief
03-30-2013, 02:20 AM
Frank said it was invalid. I said it was invalid. Damn near every agent I've spoken to this offseason says it's invalid.

But you know what's really invalid? You.

here's some proof, dumbfuck.

Jac -1700 points
TB - 1596 points

Dallas - 1600 points
Stl - 1550 points

Philly - 1200 points
Seattle - 1138 points

Pats - 800 points
Bengals - 808 points

Pats - 720 points
Denver - 646 points

Tell me more about your dumb fucking opinion on how the draft chart is dead.

Tell me about how your scout buddies tell you this....

Pasta Little Brioni
03-30-2013, 07:03 AM
Oh really! What's the over under on wins?

I'd say 8.

Pasta Little Brioni
03-30-2013, 07:04 AM
If the Chiefs don't win nine or more this year, I'll be beyond fucking pissed.

Yep. No excuse why it can't be a 10-11 win team. Any less than that and Alex sucked...hard.

patteeu
03-30-2013, 07:48 AM
Looks to me like Dane is firing back at the obsessive Geno crowd, as anyone has noticed, his post's are all in Geno threads. There are a shitload of them. Anyone that had a different view on who to draft got insulted so what goes around comes around i suppose.

Truth.

patteeu
03-30-2013, 08:02 AM
Pawn is so much more entertaining since Cassel is gone....

He was always entertaining. The fact that you couldn't see that speaks to how caught up you get in these QB jihads.

Sweet Daddy Hate
03-30-2013, 09:38 AM
Link us to your work.

????? Sweet god you are just one cunty motherfucker.
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Just Passin' By
03-30-2013, 09:56 AM
Every poll has been a landslide in favor of Geno.

You are currently saying that posters like Milk, Deez, OTWP, DJ, myself, Htis, and SNR are football stupid in regards to our takes on Geno?

Many of the same people crushing any anti-Geno sentiment were doing the same with those who didn't want Sanchez taken. In hindsight, it probably would have been better if the Chiefs had drafted Sanchez, because the "QB!" crowd would have been permanently discredited, and this place would be a little bit more rational when talking about the draft.

R8RFAN
03-30-2013, 11:00 AM
is there any way we can have any Qb-related thread not turn into a Dane vs. the world insult-fest?

Dane isn't even an asshole anymore

RealSNR
03-30-2013, 11:24 AM
Many of the same people crushing any anti-Geno sentiment were doing the same with those who didn't want Sanchez taken. In hindsight, it probably would have been better if the Chiefs had drafted Sanchez, because the "QB!" crowd would have been permanently discredited, and this place would be a little bit more rational when talking about the draft.
And do you recaalllll

The most famous Sanchez ball washer of allllll.....


Dane Mac the red-assed true faannnn....

Rausch
03-30-2013, 11:26 AM
????? Sweet god you are just one ****y mother****er.
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I really can't express how much I love the guy...

Sweet Daddy Hate
03-30-2013, 12:32 PM
And do you recaalllll

The most famous Sanchez ball washer of allllll.....


Dane Mac the red-assed true faannnn....

lol. I still believe the Snatchz could have done well in a small market like KC, though with a competent coaching staff.
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Mav
03-30-2013, 12:37 PM
lol. I still believe the Snatchz could have done well in a small market like KC, though with a competent coaching staff.
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This. THis is actually why i have flip flopped on what the chiefs should do in my opinion. They need to get a qb. I dont care if it is barkley or Geno. Thinking about it. NO pressure to start, he can sit and learn from alex, doug, and reid. He can take over when alex sucks, or gets hurt. I think it makes a lot of sense.

If he isnt ready immediately, the chiefs are covered. I still dont know if he IS ready right now, but if hes not, alex is not a bad place holder.

DaneMcCloud
03-30-2013, 12:42 PM
????? Sweet god you are just one cunty motherfucker.
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:deevee:

I'm sorry I offended your delicate sensibilities. I'll try to be more respectful in the future.

Sweet Daddy Hate
03-30-2013, 01:17 PM
:deevee:

I'm sorry I offended your delicate sensibilities. I'll try to be more respectful in the future.

Well wtf do you want me to "link"? The asshole wrote one article lambasting KC for Alice, then turns the other way and shit-cans the option of drafting a QB. Does Prisco need the CRS( cant remember shit )-patch???
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DaneMcCloud
03-30-2013, 01:41 PM
Well wtf do you want me to "link"? The asshole wrote one article lambasting KC for Alice, then turns the other way and shit-cans the option of drafting a QB. Does Prisco need the CRS( cant remember shit )-patch???
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How about the fact that NEITHER is the answer?

Sweet Daddy Hate
03-30-2013, 02:34 PM
How about the fact that NEITHER is the answer?

Eh, says you. What then, is the answer?
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DaneMcCloud
03-30-2013, 02:46 PM
Eh, says you. What then, is the answer?
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You're already on record as saying that Alex Smith will fail in KC. You and a few vocal others believe that with time, Geno Smith could be a Franchise QB, yet the Chiefs traded for Alex Smith and the Raiders are close to acquiring Matt Flynn, even though both teams have a clear shot at draft Smith.

It's been linked and stated countless number of times that this draft class is weak and that Geno Smith has flaws in his game. Unless some unidentified team decides to take a chance on him, he'll likely slip. And for all intents and purposes, the Chiefs appear to have chosen to pass on him.

So, who and what is the "Answer"? I have no idea and without a second round pick, it's unlikely to be a developmental player this year like Nassib, Barkley, Wilson or Manuel. Maybe it's Tyler Bray or Zac Dysert but as far as I know, neither has scheduled visits ahead.

If it's none of those guys (and that would be my guess at this point), they'll need to identify someone in the 2014 draft and do whatever it takes to acquire that player. Again, I have no idea who that could be because in most years, there's a breakout college QB or two and it's difficult to project who that player will be a year in advance.

I'm not nearly as "down" on Alex Smith as some but I also realize that everything will have to go extremely well around him for the Chiefs to win a playoff game, let alone two. Outside of one game, he really hasn't shown the ability to put a team on his back and will them to victory.

And until he does, he will always be viewed as a guy that's just good enough to prevent a team from a championship.

milkman
03-30-2013, 03:23 PM
Let me preface this, Dane, by telling you that I have no delusions that the Chiefs are going to draft Geno.

That said, many, if not most of us, understand and recognize the flaws in Geno's mechanics that "experts" deem as serious enough to question his value at the top of the draft.

Most of us also believe that these "experts" are viewing this class through a prism filtered by last year's class, rather than comparing it to normal draft classes, when every top rated QB had an equal or greater number of flaws.

We believe that the mechanical flaws in Geno's game are easily correctable with good coaching, and that his upside is high.

R8RFAN
03-30-2013, 03:28 PM
you are not drafting Geno