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Direckshun
04-03-2013, 09:25 PM
It's happening, bitches.

For the 2013 regular season, SNR argues that rookie tackle Luke Joeckel will be responsible for allowing no fewer than 7.0 sacks, so long as he starts at least 14 games.

If he is responsible for 7.0 sacks or more during this timespan, Direckshun will have his username changed to SNR's Bitch, along with a new avatar and tagline, and work in various phrases about how cool SNR is into every one of his posts from the conclusion of Week 17 to Feb. 15th, along with transferring all his casino cash to SNR.

If Joeckel actually plays like a goddamn top rated tackle, however, and is responsible for fewer than 7.0 sacks during that timespan, SNR will have to tailor each one of his posts from Week 17 to Feb. 15th in a manner to be determined later by Direckshun, along with transferring all his casino cash to Direckshun.

(This bet can be reviewed as of April 25th if Luke Joeckel is drafted by any of the other 31 teams in the NFL, and can be modified on that date. It is also invalidated by Joeckel failing to start 14 games.)

I am sleepwalking through this one, folks.

I will take any and all suggestions for the style in which SNR should have to post.

Hammock Parties
04-03-2013, 09:26 PM
What are we using to determine responsibility? PFF?

Nightfyre
04-03-2013, 09:28 PM
Hmm. I would say it depends where he goes. If it's here - Alex Smith is a sack-taking machine. Joeckel definitely got a lot of help from Manziel though.

Direckshun
04-03-2013, 09:29 PM
What are we using to determine responsibility? PFF?

That's the only service either of us could think of that reliably records that statistic.

Hammock Parties
04-03-2013, 09:31 PM
PFF is a good use for this with Alex Smith as our QB. He will get responsibility for some sacks.

Ace Gunner
04-03-2013, 09:31 PM
nice title

Direckshun
04-03-2013, 09:34 PM
PFF is a good use for this with Alex Smith as our QB. He will get responsibility for some sacks.

How many left tackles (http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=271379) topped 7 sacks allowed in 2012?

Is that a stat you have quick access to?

Rasputin
04-03-2013, 09:36 PM
So if Joeckel is responsible for more than 7 sacks in 14 games you are SNR bitch. And if he doesn't allow 7 sacks SNR is your bitch. Got it.


I think Direckshun is going be SNR BITCH.

AussieChiefsFan
04-03-2013, 09:37 PM
Oh man this is gonna be good.

Hammock Parties
04-03-2013, 09:37 PM
How many left tackles (http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=271379) topped 7 sacks allowed in 2012?


Only six.

3 more allowed 7.

MotherfuckerJones
04-03-2013, 09:40 PM
Ill take sacks over INTs. Hopefully somehow he can manage to not get sacked so frequently

Direckshun
04-03-2013, 09:41 PM
Only six.

3 more allowed 7.

LMAO

Oh, SNR.

You've allowed your misdirected hostility at Luke fucking Joeckel, who hasn't done anything other than be a stud prospect, to shoot yourself in the foot.

And I've won yet another bet.

lazepoo
04-03-2013, 09:42 PM
SNR Likes star trek, right? It would be funny to make him quote the Ferengi rules of acquisition in every post.

Rasputin
04-03-2013, 09:42 PM
Ill take sacks over INTs. Hopefully somehow he can manage to not get sacked so frequently

I will take scoring drives over punts any day.

MotherfuckerJones
04-03-2013, 09:43 PM
LMAO

Oh, SNR.

You've allowed your misdirected hostility at Luke ****ing Joeckel, who hasn't done anything other than be a stud prospect, to shoot yourself in the foot.

And I've won yet another bet.

He isnt a stud prospect. Or KC would not be trying to move down in the draft.

Direckshun
04-03-2013, 09:43 PM
Anybody have a posting style they'd like to see SNR posting in? I am taking suggestions.

Ke$ha lyrics, limericks, Google-translate his posts to Swahili then have the Swahili translated back to English?

LMAO

Direckshun
04-03-2013, 09:43 PM
He isnt a stud prospect. Or KC would not be trying to move down in the draft.

Iron clad logic, there.

Sorter
04-03-2013, 09:44 PM
Anybody have a posting style they'd like to see SNR posting in? I am taking suggestions.

Ke$ha lyrics, limericks, Google-translate his posts to Swahili then have the Swahili translated back to English?

LMAO

Portuguese.

Rasputin
04-03-2013, 09:45 PM
Anybody have a posting style they'd like to see SNR posting in? I am taking suggestions.

Ke$ha lyrics, limericks, Google-translate his posts to Swahili then have the Swahili translated back to English?

LMAO

Jeopardy theme or game show host. If Jeopardy he has to answer in a question.

Sorter
04-03-2013, 09:45 PM
So, what happens if Joeckel gets injured? Bet is off I assume?

Any difference on if he plays LT or RT?

What if for some unknown reason he ends up playing guard?

MotherfuckerJones
04-03-2013, 09:46 PM
Iron clad logic, there.

You listen to Matt Miller Mr. NFL Draft Scout don't ya?:hmmm:

Direckshun
04-03-2013, 09:48 PM
So, what happens if Joeckel gets injured? Bet is off I assume?

Any difference on if he plays LT or RT?

What if for some unknown reason he ends up playing guard?

The only chance he plays RT is if the Chiefs draft him. And no, that was not differentiated in the bet.

Zero chance he plays guard, so I'm not even entertaining that.

If Joeckel fails to start 14 games, the bet is nullified.

AussieChiefsFan
04-03-2013, 09:48 PM
Anybody have a posting style they'd like to see SNR posting in? I am taking suggestions.

Ke$ha lyrics, limericks, Google-translate his posts to Swahili then have the Swahili translated back to English?

LMAOROFL

Direckshun
04-03-2013, 09:49 PM
You listen to Matt Miller Mr. NFL Draft Scout don't ya?:hmmm:

No, the Chiefs just know they can trade down 3 or 4 spots and still get Joeckel, or a LT prospect essentially as good as him, while acquiring potentially a 2nd round pick.

tk13
04-03-2013, 09:50 PM
Gordon Lightfoot lyrics.

Sweet Daddy Hate
04-03-2013, 09:50 PM
SNR Likes star trek, right? It would be funny to make him quote the Ferengi rules of acquisition in every post.

lol fuck yes!
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Sorter
04-03-2013, 09:51 PM
The only chance he plays RT is if the Chiefs draft him. And no, that was not differentiated in the bet.

Zero chance he plays guard, so I'm not even entertaining that.

If Joeckel fails to start 14 games, the bet is nullified.

Seems fair to me.

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Hammock Parties
04-03-2013, 09:52 PM
LMAO

Oh, SNR.

You've allowed your misdirected hostility at Luke fucking Joeckel, who hasn't done anything other than be a stud prospect, to shoot yourself in the foot.

And I've won yet another bet.

Not necessarily.

This team is going to pass a lot.

AussieChiefsFan
04-03-2013, 09:53 PM
http://files.sharenator.com/Stanley_nod-s275x155-95928.gif

Direckshun
04-03-2013, 09:53 PM
You want in, Clay?

I'm taking allllll comers.

Hammock Parties
04-03-2013, 09:53 PM
I would like to see SNR post as if he was a Klingon. He could pull it off.

Hammock Parties
04-03-2013, 09:53 PM
You want in, Clay?

I'm taking allllll comers.

Yeah fuck you pussy.

Luke Joeckel will give up at least 7 sacks.

sig+ av bet only. One year mfer.

Dave Lane
04-03-2013, 09:54 PM
I'd kinda like to see him have to work anal leakage into everyone of his posts. As in "My anal leakage would tell me Geno won't succeed in Philly's system"

Mr. Laz
04-03-2013, 09:54 PM
He isnt a stud prospect. Or KC would not be trying to move down in the draft.
wait ... so that means Geno isn't a stud prospect or KC would not be passing on him.

Direckshun
04-03-2013, 09:55 PM
Yeah **** you pussy.

Luke Joeckel will give up at least 7 sacks.

Put your money where your mouth is. I will create an independent bet with you right now under those same terms in the OP but with different consequences.

I've watched more Joeckel tape than you have, I'm willing to bet. Put your money where your mouth is.

Hammock Parties
04-03-2013, 09:56 PM
I just told you.

Sig + av for a year.

Tribal Warfare
04-03-2013, 09:57 PM
Yeah fuck you pussy.

Luke Joeckel will give up at least 7 sacks.

sig+ av bet only. One year mfer.

IMO, he'll need to be a top 5 OT to justify the selection for next season.

Direckshun
04-03-2013, 09:57 PM
sig+ av bet only. One year mfer.

Just saw this, you edited it in.

If I lose the bet in the OP, my avatar is already taken, for a month or two at least.

If you want to make it a one-year signature bet, I'm in. I'd rather do something more creative than that, but a bet's a bet.

Let me know if that's a deal.

MotherfuckerJones
04-03-2013, 09:57 PM
wait ... so that means Geno isn't a stud prospect or KC would not be passing on him.

I dont think he's a stud prospect. I just want the top QB prospect and he is it.

Direckshun
04-03-2013, 09:57 PM
I just told you.

Sig + av for a year.

You edited it in after the fact, but whatever you need to tell yourself.

Hammock Parties
04-03-2013, 09:58 PM
sig is cool

i ain't getting too fancy

just want you to eat your words ala BossChief

Hammock Parties
04-03-2013, 09:58 PM
You edited it in after the fact, but whatever you need to tell yourself.

god, keep whining, jan

Direckshun
04-03-2013, 09:59 PM
I am very comfortable with that.

Deal: done.

I would have preferred something more creative, though. This is pretty lazy.

Direckshun
04-03-2013, 09:59 PM
god, keep whining, jan

"Jan"?

Is Jan a thing?

Sweet Daddy Hate
04-03-2013, 10:01 PM
Fuck that Sta-Puff Marshmallow motherfucker; name the terms.
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Hammock Parties
04-03-2013, 10:02 PM
"Jan"?

Is Jan a thing?

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Ming the Merciless
04-03-2013, 10:06 PM
youre going to be snr's bitch IMO

Hammock Parties
04-03-2013, 10:06 PM
Direckshun is going to be the pivot man in an SNR-GOATSE bukkake party.

Direckshun
04-03-2013, 10:06 PM
**** that Sta-Puff Marshmallow mother****er; name the terms.
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Check your PM.

Direckshun
04-03-2013, 10:07 PM
<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/-yZHveWFvqM" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

LMAO

Admit it, you're Kenneth from "30 Rock."

Hammock Parties
04-03-2013, 10:07 PM
I don't watch that show.

Direckshun
04-03-2013, 10:08 PM
Direckshun is going to be the pivot man in an SNR-GOATSE bukkake party.

I think that's called a Lucky Pierre.

Direckshun
04-03-2013, 10:08 PM
youre going to be snr's bitch IMO

Oh?

How confident are you?

Care to make it interesting?

I'm not kidding. I'm taking all comers.

Consistent1
04-03-2013, 10:10 PM
Isn't "Joeckeling" that system where you try to make your dick bigger?

Direckshun
04-03-2013, 10:13 PM
Isn't "Joeckeling" that system where you try to make your dick bigger?

Man if it is, let me just say, it has been a stunning failure.

Interpret that however you wish.

Sweet Daddy Hate
04-03-2013, 10:14 PM
Isn't "Joeckeling" that system where you try to make your dick bigger?

It's when you take a big, runny, jalapeno milk-shit. For five years.
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RedDread
04-03-2013, 10:16 PM
It's when you take a big, runny, jalapeno milk-shit. For five years.
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Thanks for that mental image.

Hammock Parties
04-03-2013, 10:17 PM
Looking forward to Direckjan's thread "Really hard not to like Luke Joeckel."

Sweet Daddy Hate
04-03-2013, 10:21 PM
Thanks for that mental image.

lolz...ur welcome.
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RealSNR
04-03-2013, 10:29 PM
Branden Albert ain't getting traded, dude. No way we try to "win now" with a fucking rookie at LT.

If the Chiefs draft Joeckel, he's play RT for at least a season. And he will lose.

So will you.

Sweet Daddy Hate
04-03-2013, 10:32 PM
god, please tell me will NOT trade Albert and draft that useless sack of Jokel....sigh.
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RealSNR
04-03-2013, 10:32 PM
I would like to see SNR post as if he was a Klingon. He could pull it off.

You hear that, Direckshun?

Give the people what they want.

Well, actually don't. Because you're going to be my rape toy to begin the 2014 year.

If you do a good job, I may do some Klingon shit just to reward you for being a good lap dog.

Direckshun
04-03-2013, 10:34 PM
You hear that, Direckshun?

Give the people what they want.

Well, actually don't. Because you're going to be my rape toy to begin the 2014 year.

If you do a good job, I may do some Klingon shit just to reward you for being a good lap dog.

I'm not opposed to it. But I have no idea what Klingon is.

I guess we'll all find out in a year.

Rasputin
04-03-2013, 10:37 PM
Oh?

How confident are you?

Care to make it interesting?

I'm not kidding. I'm taking all comers.

I'm your huckleberry
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Direckshun
04-03-2013, 10:38 PM
Keeping Branden Albert for a season doesn't make any sense to me if I'm thinking the way this front office is thinking.

It's not really on topic, or anything, just a stray thought following from SNR.

If I'm this front office, I'm probably willing to pay Branden Albert Top 10 LT money, like make him the 5th or 6th best paid.

If he's looking to be the 1st or 2nd best paid, and I'm not willing to do that... then having him play on the tag for a year doesn't make sense. His demands aren't going to come down for any conceivable reason, he's going to be a worse cap hit next year. And his trade value will be lower because he'll be another year older, and potentially injured.

You can get a 2nd rounder for him now. Or you can shit compensation next year, or even worse, let him walk and get zero compensation until 2015.

Sweet Daddy Hate
04-03-2013, 10:38 PM
"Rape Toy". That's a good band name.
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RedDread
04-03-2013, 10:38 PM
Just be sure to make them all something different. I'm slow in the head and use colors and shapes to identify posters.

RealSNR
04-03-2013, 10:42 PM
I'm not opposed to it. But I have no idea what Klingon is.


Something that takes the most honorable shits in the galaxy

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penbrook
04-03-2013, 10:45 PM
Luke Joeckel to visit the Eagles next week.

penbrook
04-03-2013, 10:47 PM
NFL_Draft_Insider@NFLDraftBites

#Dolphins *Mock 3. Luke Joeckel 54. Gavin Escobar 77. Kayvon Webster 82. Robert Alford. Trade up w Oakland for top Tackle, Double up on CBs.

Direckshun
04-03-2013, 10:49 PM
Just secured a third bet.

Fucking gold, Jerry. Gold.

Rasputin
04-03-2013, 10:52 PM
Just secured a third bet.

****ing gold, Jerry. Gold.

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Direckshun
04-03-2013, 10:56 PM
If GoChiefs would step up his frontal lobe and beef up his bet with me, this place is going to be veeeeeeeeeeeeeery entertaining the day after Week 17.

Hammock Parties
04-03-2013, 11:01 PM
If GoChiefs would step up his frontal lobe and beef up his bet with me, this place is going to be veeeeeeeeeeeeeery entertaining the day after Week 17.

Alright you little bitch, here's some beef:

If Luke Joeckel gives up 7 or more sacks, you have to make little shows of obeisance and prayer to every thread I post. Basically just come in the thread and make a post blowing me. I have confidence you can mix it up.

If Joeckel gaves up fewer than seven sacks I'll do the same for your shitty threads.

Direckshun
04-03-2013, 11:04 PM
Alright you little bitch, here's some beef:

If Luke Joeckel gives up 7 or more sacks, you have to make little shows of obeisance and prayer to every thread I post. Basically just come in the thread and make a post blowing me. I have confidence you can mix it up.

If Joeckel gaves up fewer than seven sacks I'll do the same for your shitty threads.

LMAO

Now we're cooking with gas.

Keep in mind I'm talking about the exact same conditions as in the OP with SNR.

How long do we need to keep this up? I think this is amusing, but could wear thin after a month. We could do Feb. 15th, just like the bet I have with SNR.

Hammock Parties
04-03-2013, 11:05 PM
Yeah that's fine.

Direckshun
04-03-2013, 11:06 PM
Done motherfucking deal.

This place is going to be a fucking circus.

Rasputin
04-03-2013, 11:10 PM
Jeopardy theme or game show host. If Jeopardy he has to answer in a question.

This would be one of our consiquence for who ever loses. Each post must have question form like in jeopardy or we can mix it up with game show references. For 2 months after week 17.

penbrook
04-03-2013, 11:26 PM
Per Jim Corbett

Geno Smith will visit Buffalo Bills next after Wednesday spent with Chip Kelly's Philadelphia Eagles following a very good visit with K.C. Chiefs

Fairplay
04-04-2013, 12:14 AM
I'm not kidding. I'm taking all comers.


I don't believe you could take on all bettors Direckshun. If you lost others would have you avatar, sig and tag already taken unless you change it to another period of time in 2014 for other takers.

I do think these are very good bets for you though.

Rasputin
04-04-2013, 12:18 AM
Yeah that's fine.

Clay how many sacks did Jake Long give up his rooky year?

RealSNR
04-04-2013, 12:24 AM
I have a tendency to lose these kind of bets by miniscule amounts. Whenever I've lost a bet, I've always been correct about the purpose that was the impetus for the bet.

For example, if I lose this way to Direckshun, Joeckel will allow 6.0 or 6.5 sacks. CLEARLY I was right in that Joeckel is a fat pouty turd who is a giant fat fuck of a pussy vagina dildo douche. However, my downfall was the number I picked.

I may ask Direckshun for a reconsideration on April 25th, just because you don't have to give up 7 sacks to suck hard, which is what I'm trying to say Joeckel will do.

But that's the cost. I had to pick a number big enough to entice him, but he accepted right away. I've never been any good at haggling.

We shall see. Never underestimate the suck power that is Luke Joeckel

Rasputin
04-04-2013, 12:26 AM
I have a tendency to lose these kind of bets by miniscule amounts. Whenever I've lost a bet, I've always been correct about the purpose that was the impetus for the bet.

For example, if I lose this way to Direckshun, Joeckel will allow 6.0 or 6.5 sacks. CLEARLY I was right in that Joeckel is a fat pouty turd who is a giant fat **** of a pussy vagina dildo douche. However, my downfall was the number I picked.

I may ask Direckshun for a reconsideration on April 25th, just because you don't have to give up 7 sacks to suck hard, which is what I'm trying to say Joeckel will do.

But that's the cost. I had to pick a number big enough to entice him, but he accepted right away. I've never been any good at haggling.

We shall see. Never underestimate the suck power that is Luke Joeckel

I think it is going to come down to just how much Andy Reid ask Alex Smith to drop back and pass. If Andy Reid decides it's best to hand off to JC then the bet could be at risk.

Hammock Parties
04-04-2013, 12:29 AM
dont puss out, SNR

We're going to cover Direckjan's face in our genetic material.

Fairplay
04-04-2013, 12:31 AM
I will take any and all suggestions for the style in which SNR should have to post.



How about something like this when SNR posts, presuming you win the bet.


"I am Direckshun's bitch my name is SNR and this is my thoughts~"

(then at the end of what he writes he ends it with)

I hope the wise and powerful Direckshun approves of what I posted, for I am scum compared to him, his football knowledge is legendary~

RealSNR
04-04-2013, 12:37 AM
dont puss out, SNR

We're going to cover Direckjan's face in our genetic material.

Oh, I'm not pussing out. I wouldn't have made it if I felt I didn't have a good chance at winning.

If Direckshun loses this one, he loses DEFINITIVELY. We're talking Wolf 359 here.

nychief
04-04-2013, 12:51 AM
my god, it is like a fucking leather bar in here.

Tribal Warfare
04-04-2013, 01:14 AM
LMAO

Now we're cooking with gas.

Keep in mind I'm talking about the exact same conditions as in the OP with SNR.

How long do we need to keep this up? I think this is amusing, but could wear thin after a month. We could do Feb. 15th, just like the bet I have with SNR.

Better watch it Von Miller could very well PWN Joeckel with a 3 sack game in a flash with Smith shitting his pants

penbrook
04-04-2013, 01:15 AM
Per Jim Corbett

Geno Smith will visit Buffalo Bills next after Wednesday spent with Chip Kelly's Philadelphia Eagles following a very good visit with K.C. Chiefs

Setsuna
04-04-2013, 01:25 AM
Joker gonna give up 2 sacks a game. Dickshun's goose is cooked....drizzled with rape sauce.

Sassy Squatch
04-04-2013, 01:29 AM
Wow. 7 sacks? 5 would've been a better benchmark IMO.

Rasputin
04-04-2013, 02:22 AM
Joker gonna give up 2 sacks a game. Dickshun's goose is cooked....drizzled with rape sauce.

That is what I think he is going to average for giving up sacks protecting Alex Smith.

crazycoffey
04-04-2013, 02:39 AM
"Rape Toy". That's a good band name.
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I like Struggle Snugglers better.

crazycoffey
04-04-2013, 02:42 AM
dont puss out, SNR

We're going to cover Direckjan's face in our genetic material.

you're going to shit on him/her?

Messier
04-04-2013, 03:31 AM
Here it is again. I don't get it. So many people here talk like Joeckel is barely draftable. Show me one expert that says he's way overrated. Not saying someone our there isn't saying it, but I haven't seen them. I understand preferring Fisher to Joeckel, I do too, but people here talk like he's gonna play like an undrafted rookie.

MotherfuckerJones
04-04-2013, 04:41 AM
Alright you little bitch, here's some beef:

If Luke Joeckel gives up 7 or more sacks, you have to make little shows of obeisance and prayer to every thread I post. Basically just come in the thread and make a post blowing me. I have confidence you can mix it up.

If Joeckel gaves up fewer than seven sacks I'll do the same for your shitty threads.

If joeckel gives up not gaves up, dipshit

MotherfuckerJones
04-04-2013, 04:45 AM
Ill take a bet too. The NFC East will make cockle their bitch this year

The Bad Guy
04-04-2013, 04:47 AM
IMO, he'll need to be a top 5 OT to justify the selection for next season.

Is his contract for one year?

bevischief
04-04-2013, 06:40 AM
wow.ROFLROFL

Rasputin
04-04-2013, 07:36 AM
Here it is again. I don't get it. So many people here talk like Joeckel is barely draftable. Show me one expert that says he's way overrated. Not saying someone our there isn't saying it, but I haven't seen them. I understand preferring Fisher to Joeckel, I do too, but people here talk like he's gonna play like an undrafted rookie.

Oh Oh Oh I don't give a fuck about "experts" have to say about prospects. I'm not saying Joeckel is that bad but he isn't worth OUR #1 pick of the draft. Fuck Joeckel.

MotherfuckerJones
04-04-2013, 07:41 AM
How well did Jake Long work out for the Dolphins?

RealSNR
04-04-2013, 08:43 AM
Here it is again. I don't get it. So many people here talk like Joeckel is barely draftable. Show me one expert that says he's way overrated. Not saying someone our there isn't saying it, but I haven't seen them. I understand preferring Fisher to Joeckel, I do too, but people here talk like he's gonna play like an undrafted rookie.

Joeckel is NOT a finished product coming out of college. He honestly reminds me a lot of Jason Smith. Perhaps he won't fail as hard. In fact, he very likely won't. But I predict the NFL is going to be a shock to his system, and it will show. Hard.

Buehler445
04-04-2013, 08:47 AM
Joeckel is NOT a finished product coming out of college. He honestly reminds me a lot of Jason Smith. Perhaps he won't fail as hard. In fact, he very likely won't. But I predict the NFL is going to be a shock to his system, and it will show. Hard.

I think your bet should represent that. If he sucks bawls and Reid can't justify playing him in front of some jackwagon that gives up 7 sacks, your bet is null, when in fact, that situation would be much more egregious than just giving up 7 sacks.

I don't think that would happen if he went 1 overall, but I'd hate to bet. This fucking franchise did draft Tyson Jackson #3 overall.

Direckshun
04-04-2013, 08:50 AM
Joeckel is NOT a finished product coming out of college. He honestly reminds me a lot of Jason Smith.

You are so full of shit, you might as well start honoring your bet now and get it over with.

Joeckel's Jason Smith?

Jason Smith was an unproven athletic wonder who blew up after the Combine. Lane Johnson is Jason Smith, if anybody.

Joeckel's not an athletic wonder. He is a technician who's perhaps the most proven OT prospect to come out in the Top Ten since Russell Okung.

RealSNR
04-04-2013, 08:56 AM
These two scouting reports look awwwwwwwwwwfully similar to me...


Positives: Tall, athletic left tackle prospect. Excellent straight-line speed and hustle, getting downfield on screens and long runs. Can pull and trap, running smoothly and adjusting to oncoming defenders. Moves to the second level quickly, using good angles to keep linebackers out of the play. Should work well in zone-blocking schemes with his ability to lock onto defenders and move. Gets down quickly to cut block despite his height. Adjusts well to outside blitzers. Willing to throw his man to the ground and keep him there. Has made significant improvement in terms of technique and strength over the past two years at left tackle.

Negatives: Typically operates out of a two-point stance for his school. Raw in his pass-set technique, standing a bit upright and backpedaling instead of sliding to mirror his man. Locks onto his man at first, but eventually loses his balance and grip due to his average upper-body strength and footwork. Does not have much of a punch in pass protection. Can lose the hands battle on the line. Could use a bit more bulk in the lower body to be more effective as a drive blocker. May initially have to be moved inside to left guard for a zone-blocking team.


STRENGTHS Technically-sound left tackle prospect. Plays with good bend and a very wide base in pass protection in spite of his long legs. Moves feet quickly and stays in balance, rarely giving up the edge and pulling off the down block/outside blitz pick-up admirably. Good timing and strength on his punch, possesses good hand placement and will reset them to maintain distance. Recovers quickly if his misses his punch, stays on his man. Gets after his man in the run game, has foot quickness to get correct angle and keeps them moving to sustain the block. Good power step inside to choke off inside spin moves. Capable cut-blocker. Excellent athleticism and foot speed, showing the ability to mirror and stay in front of many talented pass rushers over his three years starting.

WEAKNESSES Does not possess elite upper or lower-body strength; only adequate as a drive-blocker and can be pushed back by better defensive ends and shed in the run game. Foot quickness is good, but does not execute the reach block as often as you’d like. Overextends his punch on occasion, vulnerable to a rip move outside or spin inside. Played exclusively in a two-point stance and can get caught playing upright. Due to his QB’s ability to break the pocket and scramble, did not frequently face pass rushers that challenged him hard upfield

Ace Gunner
04-04-2013, 09:00 AM
Joeckel is NOT a finished product coming out of college. He honestly reminds me a lot of Jason Smith. Perhaps he won't fail as hard. In fact, he very likely won't. But I predict the NFL is going to be a shock to his system, and it will show. Hard.

you got to be kidding me. Jason Smith was/is no technician and Joeckel is definitely the most polished LT to enter the draft in awhile.

Pasta Little Brioni
04-04-2013, 09:04 AM
Dis guna be gooood.

Pasta Little Brioni
04-04-2013, 09:05 AM
Actually, all bets will be null and void when KC passes on Joke. We should have bets on if they take him or not. Wouldn't mind sending Cockmon on a year long vacation.

BlackHelicopters
04-04-2013, 09:06 AM
Are side bets accepted?

Direckshun
04-04-2013, 09:10 AM
I have a tendency to lose these kind of bets by miniscule amounts. Whenever I've lost a bet, I've always been correct about the purpose that was the impetus for the bet.

For example, if I lose this way to Direckshun, Joeckel will allow 6.0 or 6.5 sacks. CLEARLY I was right in that Joeckel is a fat pouty turd who is a giant fat **** of a pussy vagina dildo douche. However, my downfall was the number I picked.

I may ask Direckshun for a reconsideration on April 25th, just because you don't have to give up 7 sacks to suck hard, which is what I'm trying to say Joeckel will do.

But that's the cost. I had to pick a number big enough to entice him, but he accepted right away. I've never been any good at haggling.

We shall see. Never underestimate the suck power that is Luke Joeckel

LMAO

We're starting to see the crease here, folks.

Direckshun
04-04-2013, 09:12 AM
These two scouting reports look awwwwwwwwwwfully similar to me...

In what humanly possible way are those two reports similar?

There's the two-point stance negative, and that's it.

Direckshun
04-04-2013, 09:14 AM
Are side bets accepted?

My ears are wide open.

I'm negotiating my fourth bet right now on this exact same issue in PMs.

You guys have gone full retard on Joeckel because you can't stand this team passing on Geno Smith.

My job, as it has ever been, is to expose the overreaction for what it is.

And I am going to make this place a fucking circus.

Mr. Flopnuts
04-04-2013, 09:14 AM
Direckshun is coming up with creative bets that actually has me thinking about making bets on this site now. Avs, sigs, and user names are dull, and lazy. We're getting creative now.

Chief_For_Life58
04-04-2013, 09:15 AM
He isnt a stud prospect. Or KC would not be trying to move down in the draft.

this x a million

boogblaster
04-04-2013, 09:20 AM
will we draft in first round or pass and trade down for 5 6th rounders .. the KC way .....

Pasta Little Brioni
04-04-2013, 09:20 AM
Shocking that fans don't want to piss away a 2-14 season on a pudgy dough boy when we had Top 10 tackle play at both positions last year.

The Franchise
04-04-2013, 09:23 AM
you got to be kidding me. Jason Smith was/is no technician and Joeckel is definitely the most polished LT to enter the draft in awhile.

Define awhile.

patteeu
04-04-2013, 09:42 AM
How well did Jake Long work out for the Dolphins?

Better than Akili Smith for the Bengals or Ryan Leaf for the Chargers.

Sorter
04-04-2013, 09:43 AM
Direckshun is coming up with creative bets that actually has me thinking about making bets on this site now. Avs, sigs, and user names are dull, and lazy. We're getting creative now.

Direckshun=Frank?

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.aoltv.com/media/2011/11/iasip-300-fx.jpg

Mr. Flopnuts
04-04-2013, 09:44 AM
Direckshun=Frank?

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.aoltv.com/media/2011/11/iasip-300-fx.jpg

Wow. He kind of looks like him too! :Poke:

Ebolapox
04-04-2013, 09:45 AM
Per Jim Corbett

Geno Smith will visit Buffalo Bills next after Wednesday spent with Chip Kelly's Philadelphia Eagles following a very good visit with K.C. Chiefs

SHUT THE FUCK UP CHARLES

Mr. Flopnuts
04-04-2013, 09:45 AM
Define awhile.

3 decades if the Chiefs take him, 3 years if not. /chiefsfans ROFL

RealSNR
04-04-2013, 09:45 AM
you got to be kidding me. Jason Smith was/is no technician and Joeckel is definitely the most polished LT to enter the draft in awhile.

And he doesn't attack. Moves around the edge better than most LTs coming out of college, sure, but I've never seen him have to diagnose two blitzers from the weakside.

Eric Fisher has tape where he's taken BOTH out of the picture. I'm not sure Joeckel would know what the fuck to do.

RealSNR
04-04-2013, 09:46 AM
Better than Akili Smith for the Bengals or Ryan Leaf for the Chargers.

DON'T MAKE ME BET WITH YOU, TOO YOU GODDAMN TRUE FAN TROLL

Mr. Flopnuts
04-04-2013, 09:46 AM
I actually like Fisher better than Joeckel out of this draft. In fact, I proved it in the mock.

Mr. Flopnuts
04-04-2013, 09:47 AM
DON'T MAKE ME BET WITH YOU, TOO YOU GODDAMN TRUE FAN TROLL

Move your comma over commatard.

bevischief
04-04-2013, 09:48 AM
:popcorn:ROFL

The Franchise
04-04-2013, 09:48 AM
Better than Akili Smith for the Bengals or Ryan Leaf for the Chargers.

Because those are comparable.

Rasputin
04-04-2013, 09:49 AM
I actually like Fisher better than Joeckel out of this draft. In fact, I proved it in the mock.

Fisher > Joeckel

patteeu
04-04-2013, 09:50 AM
DON'T MAKE ME BET WITH YOU, TOO YOU GODDAMN TRUE FAN TROLL

LMAO Should I have said JaMarcus Russell and Tim Couch instead?

Sorter
04-04-2013, 09:51 AM
Wow. He kind of looks like him too! :Poke:

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Rasputin
04-04-2013, 09:56 AM
Jeopardy theme or game show host. If Jeopardy he has to answer in a question.

This would be one of our consiquence for who ever loses. Each post must have question form like in jeopardy or we can mix it up with game show references. For 2 months after week 17.

Is this good for you Direckshun? You never responded to my post.

Direckshun
04-04-2013, 10:01 AM
Direckshun=Frank?

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.aoltv.com/media/2011/11/iasip-300-fx.jpg

LMAO

Wow. He kind of looks like him too! :Poke:

ROFL

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ROFL

ROFL

ROFL

RealSNR
04-04-2013, 10:03 AM
Move your comma over commatard.

GET HELP

Direckshun
04-04-2013, 10:04 AM
Is this good for you Derickshun? You never responded to my post.

Oh, shit. For you and me? I thought that was a suggestion I should adopt for SNR's punishment. (I've settled on Klingon for him.)

If that's for you and I, let's hammer this bitch out.

Every post must begin with a Jeopardy-esque question, from the conclusion of Week 17 to February 15th.

All the terms in the OP apply, if Joeckel allows 7.0+, you win and I Jeopardize. If Joeckel allows less than 7.0, I win and you Jeopardize.

Keep in mind we both get one opportunity to back out of this or change it depending on who drafts Joeckel on the 25th.

You in?

patteeu
04-04-2013, 10:06 AM
GET HELP

Reported.

Direckshun
04-04-2013, 10:16 AM
GET HELP

Does rape qualify as help?

bevischief
04-04-2013, 10:19 AM
Does rape qualify as help?

Yes.

RealSNR
04-04-2013, 10:22 AM
Does rape qualify as help?

Depends on who you ask.

Direckshun
04-04-2013, 10:28 AM
Just locked down a fourth bet on the exact terms of the OP with another poster.

You guys are making this too easy.

Still waiting on KC Tattoo.

patteeu
04-04-2013, 10:30 AM
Just locked down a fourth bet on the exact terms of the OP with another poster.

You guys are making this too easy.

Still waiting on KC Tattoo.

This place is a looney bin.

Sorter
04-04-2013, 10:37 AM
Just locked down a fourth bet on the exact terms of the OP with another poster.

You guys are making this too easy.

Still waiting on KC Tattoo.

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Direckshun
04-04-2013, 10:38 AM
You know what they say about bets, SNR?

They are taxes on bullshit (http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=266140).

Mr. Flopnuts
04-04-2013, 10:39 AM
GET HELP

You're a fucking retard that breeds 400lb sodomites.

bevischief
04-04-2013, 10:39 AM
This place is a looney bin.

You just figured this out?...

Mr. Flopnuts
04-04-2013, 10:42 AM
Does rape qualify as help?

You've really gone off the raped end.

Rasputin
04-04-2013, 11:01 AM
Oh, shit. For you and me? I thought that was a suggestion I should adopt for SNR's punishment. (I've settled on Klingon for him.)

If that's for you and I, let's hammer this bitch out.

Every post must begin with a Jeopardy-esque question, from the conclusion of Week 17 to February 15th.

All the terms in the OP apply, if Joeckel allows 7.0+, you win and I Jeopardize. If Joeckel allows less than 7.0, I win and you Jeopardize.

Keep in mind we both get one opportunity to back out of this or change it depending on who drafts Joeckel on the 25th.

You in?

Works for me <a href="http://photobucket.com/images/hand%20shake%20gif" target="_blank"><img src="http://i1074.photobucket.com/albums/w404/luckman99/All%20Gif%20File/New%20Kaskus%20Emoticon/ibyp28.gif" border="0" alt="hand shake gif photo: Shake Hand ibyp28.gif"/></a>

Direckshun
04-04-2013, 11:06 AM
Works for me <a href="http://photobucket.com/images/hand%20shake%20gif" target="_blank"><img src="http://i1074.photobucket.com/albums/w404/luckman99/All%20Gif%20File/New%20Kaskus%20Emoticon/ibyp28.gif" border="0" alt="hand shake gif photo: Shake Hand ibyp28.gif"/></a>

Done.

And done.

RunKC
04-04-2013, 11:08 AM
Because those are comparable.

Funny that analyst have actually said that Geno does compare to Akili Smith in some ways LMAO

jAZ
04-04-2013, 11:15 AM
It's happening, bitches.

For the 2013 regular season, SNR argues that rookie tackle Luke Joeckel will be responsible for allowing no fewer than 7.0 sacks, so long as he starts at least 14 games.

If he is responsible for 7.0 sacks or more during this timespan, Direckshun will have his username changed to SNR's Bitch, along with a new avatar and tagline, and work in various phrases about how cool SNR is into every one of his posts from the conclusion of Week 17 to Feb. 15th, along with transferring all his casino cash to SNR.

If Joeckel actually plays like a goddamn top rated tackle, however, and is responsible for fewer than 7.0 sacks during that timespan, SNR will have to tailor each one of his posts from Week 17 to Feb. 15th in a manner to be determined later by Direckshun, along with transferring all his casino cash to Direckshun.

(This bet can be reviewed as of April 25th if Luke Joeckel is drafted by any of the other 31 teams in the NFL, and can be modified on that date. It is also invalidated by Joeckel failing to start 14 games.)

I am sleepwalking through this one, folks.

I will take any and all suggestions for the style in which SNR should have to post.

Anybody have a posting style they'd like to see SNR posting in? I am taking suggestions.

Ke$ha lyrics, limericks, Google-translate his posts to Swahili then have the Swahili translated back to English?

LMAO
It happens, bitches.

For the 2013 season, at times, argues that SNR rookie tackle Luke Joeckel will be responsible for allowing bags no less than 7.0, so long as he started at least 14 games.

If he is responsible for 7.0 sacks or more during this timespan, Direckshun will have changed his username and Bitch SNR, with a new avatar and tagline, and worked in various phrases about how cool SNR is in every one of his posts from conclusion of the 17 weeks to February 15, with the transfer of all its casino cash to SNR.

If Joeckel really has as dealing goddamn top rated, however, and are responsible for bags less than 7.0 during that timespan, SNR will have to tailor each of the posts of his from Week 17 to February 15 in a manner to be determined later by Direckshun, including transfer all its casino cash to Direckshun.

(Bet this could be reviewed if the April 25 if Joeckel Luke wrote for any of the other 31 teams in the NFL, and can be changed on the Joeckel also invalidated by failure to start 14 games.).

I'm sleepwalking through this one, folks.

I take any and all suggestions for the style that SNR should have a post.

Sweet Daddy Hate
04-04-2013, 11:15 AM
Funny that analyst have actually said that Geno does compare to Akili Smith in some ways LMAO

Funny that you walk around with cassette tape hanging out of your ass like a 1980's pomeranian...
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RunKC
04-04-2013, 11:36 AM
Funny that you walk around with cassette tape hanging out of your ass like a 1980's pomeranian...
Posted via Mobile Device

Lol wut

RealSNR
04-04-2013, 11:46 AM
You're a fucking retard that breeds 400lb sodomites.

No u!

The Bad Guy
04-04-2013, 11:50 AM
I'm truly going to be surpirsed if...

A) Albert is on this roster past draft weekend.
B) Fisher or Joeckel aren't Chiefs by 8:15 EST time on April 25.

Sweet Daddy Hate
04-04-2013, 12:14 PM
I'm truly going to be surpirsed if...

A) Albert is on this roster past draft weekend.
B) Fisher or Joeckel aren't Chiefs by 8:15 EST time on April 25.

Source or speculation?
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The Bad Guy
04-04-2013, 12:15 PM
Source or speculation?
Posted via Mobile Device

Little bit of info and some speculation on my part.

MotherfuckerJones
04-04-2013, 12:16 PM
This will be such a sideways move.

penbrook
04-04-2013, 12:18 PM
This will be such a sideways move.

Yea it will. Why would they even make this move.

Albert > Fisher > Joeckel

The Franchise
04-04-2013, 12:22 PM
I'm truly going to be surpirsed if...

A) Albert is on this roster past draft weekend.
B) Fisher or Joeckel aren't Chiefs by 8:15 EST time on April 25.

Yay.

MotherfuckerJones
04-04-2013, 12:24 PM
I can see that happening TBG, but I don't like it.

Direckshun
04-04-2013, 12:29 PM
It is official. I now have five bitches.

Sweet Daddy Hate
04-04-2013, 12:31 PM
Little bit of info and some speculation on my part.

So...not necessarily the Path of FAIL just yet?
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Messier
04-04-2013, 12:32 PM
I'm truly going to be surpirsed if...

A) Albert is on this roster past draft weekend.
B) Fisher or Joeckel aren't Chiefs by 8:15 EST time on April 25.

I can get on board, but only if the Chiefs can get what I heard they're asking, a second and a conditional pick next year.

The Bad Guy
04-04-2013, 12:33 PM
Yea it will. Why would they even make this move.

Albert > Fisher > Joeckel

I don't agree.

I think Albert's a nice player, but when it's all said and done Joeckel and Fisher are going to be better NFL players.

That's not to say I agree with swapping them out, but Albert throughout this process wants to get paid like he's a top LT and I don't think the people inside that FO think he's top 5.

They franchised him to trade him.

Sweet Daddy Hate
04-04-2013, 12:33 PM
It is official. I now have five bitches.

What you have, is five golden opportunities to get your ass handed to you. If this team drafts Joekel, I really don't want to be you, sir.
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MotherfuckerJones
04-04-2013, 12:33 PM
It is official. I now have five bitches.

1 vs. 5 hmm let's see how this works out

The Bad Guy
04-04-2013, 12:34 PM
So...not necessarily the Path of FAIL just yet?
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I wouldn't say what I just posted is written in stone, but I'm just reading the tea leaves here.

Direckshun
04-04-2013, 12:35 PM
What you have, is five golden opportunities to get your ass handed to you. If this team drafts Joekel, I really don't want to be you, sir.
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1 vs. 5 hmm let's see how this works out

Keep talking.

We know what's coming.

Sweet Daddy Hate
04-04-2013, 12:39 PM
I wouldn't say what I just posted is written in stone, but I'm just reading the tea leaves here.

Got it. I understand trying to recoup lost picks, but with the lack of generational talent in this draft, why not just keep the known commodity and take the developmental QB for the future?
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Sweet Daddy Hate
04-04-2013, 12:41 PM
Keep talking.

We know what's coming.

Yes we do; you not making much sense in your postings for a while, and people wondering if they should buy decoder rings to decipher your gibberish!
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MotherfuckerJones
04-04-2013, 12:42 PM
What happens if we take joeckel and he breaks his leg?

Messier
04-04-2013, 12:45 PM
What you have, is five golden opportunities to get your ass handed to you. If this team drafts Joekel, I really don't want to be you, sir.
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So everyone is dead wrong about Joeckel, except some people on a Chiefs fan board that want Geno Smith?

Hammock Parties
04-04-2013, 12:45 PM
I think Albert's a nice player, but when it's all said and done Joeckel and Fisher are going to be better NFL players.

So they're going to be top 5 left tackles.

Because that's the bar.

Albert is in the 5-10 range.

FYI, i don't care what those guys turn out to be. We are fully capable of winning a SB with Branden Albert. Replacing him with 1.1 is stupid as hell, and there's 0 excuse for it.

Molitoth
04-04-2013, 12:46 PM
What happens if we take joeckel and he breaks his leg?

Then this regime gets what it f*cking deserves. :evil:

Molitoth
04-04-2013, 12:47 PM
So they're going to be top 5 left tackles.

Because that's the bar.

Albert is in the 5-10 range.

FYI, i don't care what those guys turn out to be. We are fully capable of winning a SB with Branden Albert. Replacing him with 1.1 is stupid as hell, and there's 0 excuse for it.

A_M_E_N to the glorious Wonton.

penbrook
04-04-2013, 12:48 PM
So they're going to be top 5 left tackles.

Because that's the bar.

Albert is in the 5-10 range.

FYI, i don't care what those guys turn out to be. We are fully capable of winning a SB with Branden Albert. Replacing him with 1.1 is stupid as hell, and there's 0 excuse for it.

Albert only allowed 1 sack.

Joeckel will allow at least 5.

With A Smith being the sackmaster were gonna need a capable backup qb with all the hits Smith is gonna take.

Just Passin' By
04-04-2013, 12:49 PM
Got it. I understand trying to recoup lost picks, but with the lack of generational talent in this draft, why not just keep the known commodity and take the developmental QB for the future?
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Having the QB of choice in place changes everything in a weak QB draft.

Mr. Flopnuts
04-04-2013, 12:49 PM
If TBG is right, I hope Dorsey gets raped by a 300lb Joeckel.

penbrook
04-04-2013, 12:50 PM
If were gonna draft a LT I want Fisher.

Just Passin' By
04-04-2013, 12:50 PM
So they're going to be top 5 left tackles.

Because that's the bar.

Albert is in the 5-10 range.

FYI, i don't care what those guys turn out to be. We are fully capable of winning a SB with Branden Albert. Replacing him with 1.1 is stupid as hell, and there's 0 excuse for it.

Albert's demanding top 5 money right now. The rookie won't sniff top 5 money until 6 years from now.

penbrook
04-04-2013, 12:51 PM
Albert's demanding top 5 money right now. The rookie won't sniff top 5 money until 6 years from now.

Even 6 years from now Joeckel wont be top 5. However I think Fisher can be.

Sweet Daddy Hate
04-04-2013, 12:51 PM
So everyone is dead wrong about Joeckel, except some people on a Chiefs fan board that want Geno Smith?

Based on all the facts presented ad-nausem, and combined with franchise history; YES, MOTHERFUCKER! YES!
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Sweet Daddy Hate
04-04-2013, 12:52 PM
Even 6 years from now Joeckel wont be top 5. However I think Fisher can be.

Niether are valid options in the top ten.
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Molitoth
04-04-2013, 12:52 PM
Albert's demanding top 5 money right now. The rookie won't sniff top 5 money until 6 years from now.

So our plan going forward is to move up and draft a guy, let him play at a high level and then let him walk or trade him...

Why did we just re-sign Bowe and Colquitt? That should'nt have been part of the plan.

Ebolapox
04-04-2013, 12:53 PM
Little bit of info and some speculation on my part.

I know we bug you constantly for this stuff, but any word on how geno's visit went?

penbrook
04-04-2013, 12:54 PM
Niether are valid options in the top ten.
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I actually think Fisher can be.

Molitoth
04-04-2013, 12:54 PM
Think about this:


The Chiefs value the LT position SO HIGH that they are considering drafting it at 1.1 over a QBOTF.

The same regime is letting a top 10 LT go because apparently he wants "top money"

The same regime just paid Colquitt top money. A ****ing punter. The same position that isn't needed if you have an offense worth a shit.



The same fanbase that was pissed about Brandon Carr not getting resigned is the same fanbase that is completely fine with replacing Albert with Joeckel.
FFS it's insane.

penbrook
04-04-2013, 12:56 PM
I know we bug you constantly for this stuff, but any word on how geno's visit went?

According to Jim Corbett Genos visit went very good.

penbrook
04-04-2013, 12:57 PM
Think about this:


The Chiefs value the LT position SO HIGH that they are considering drafting it at 1.1 over a QBOTF.

The same regime is letting a top 10 LT go because apparently he wants "top money"

The same regime just paid Colquitt top money. A ****ing punter. The same position that isn't needed if you have an offense worth a shit.



The same fanbase that was pissed about Brandon Carr not getting resigned is the same fanbase that is completely fine with replacing Albert with Joeckel.
FFS it's insane.

If Albert signs long term he will be making less money this year and free up approx 3 mil.

Ebolapox
04-04-2013, 12:57 PM
According to Jim Corbett Genos visit went very good.

you been to your own shiny, shitty thread? I don't give a fuck what jim corbett says. I didn't give a fuck what jim corbett said the last five times I read it in your freaking posts about it in every fucking thread.

fuck off. get HIV. drink a gallon of antifreeze. either way, just go the fuck away.

patteeu
04-04-2013, 12:58 PM
Think about this:


The Chiefs value the LT position SO HIGH that they are considering drafting it at 1.1 over a QBOTF.

The same regime is letting a top 10 LT go because apparently he wants "top money"

The same regime just paid Colquitt top money. A ****ing punter. The same position that isn't needed if you have an offense worth a shit.



The same fanbase that was pissed about Brandon Carr not getting resigned is the same fanbase that is completely fine with replacing Albert with Joeckel.
FFS it's insane.

If the Chiefs think Geno Smith is a legit QBOTF, they'll draft him. If they don't, what they're really doing is drafting a top end LT over a journeyman-at-best QB project.

Hammock Parties
04-04-2013, 01:00 PM
Albert's demanding top 5 money right now. The rookie won't sniff top 5 money until 6 years from now.

I don't care, it's money.

Sweet Daddy Hate
04-04-2013, 01:01 PM
Think about this:


The Chiefs value the LT position SO HIGH that they are considering drafting it at 1.1 over a QBOTF.

The same regime is letting a top 10 LT go because apparently he wants "top money"

The same regime just paid Colquitt top money. A ****ing punter. The same position that isn't needed if you have an offense worth a shit.



The same fanbase that was pissed about Brandon Carr not getting resigned is the same fanbase that is completely fine with replacing Albert with Joeckel.
FFS it's insane.

That is some wickedly warped shit.
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penbrook
04-04-2013, 01:02 PM
you been to your own shiny, shitty thread? I don't give a **** what jim corbett says. I didn't give a **** what jim corbett said the last five times I read it in your freaking posts about it in every ****ing thread.

**** off. get HIV. drink a gallon of antifreeze. either way, just go the **** away.

I have my own thread?

The Bad Guy
04-04-2013, 01:02 PM
According to Jim Corbett Genos visit went very good.

Just about every visit they have had has gone very good. Reading anything into that is dumb.

The Bad Guy
04-04-2013, 01:06 PM
So they're going to be top 5 left tackles.

Because that's the bar.

Albert is in the 5-10 range.

FYI, i don't care what those guys turn out to be. We are fully capable of winning a SB with Branden Albert. Replacing him with 1.1 is stupid as hell, and there's 0 excuse for it.

I don't think Albert is near the top 5. He's closer to 10 than he is to 5.

Zero excuse?

Why because you think they should just pay Brendan Albert what he wants?

Sweet Daddy Hate
04-04-2013, 01:06 PM
I have my own thread?

hahahahalololol
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Sweet Daddy Hate
04-04-2013, 01:08 PM
I don't think Albert is near the top 5. He's closer to 10 than he is to 5.

Zero excuse?

Why because you think they should just pay Brendan Albert what he wants?

He certainly didn't earn it...
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Ace Gunner
04-04-2013, 01:13 PM
And he doesn't attack. Moves around the edge better than most LTs coming out of college, sure, but I've never seen him have to diagnose two blitzers from the weakside.

Eric Fisher has tape where he's taken BOTH out of the picture. I'm not sure Joeckel would know what the **** to do.

Allow me some time to ponder a retort. I'm bustin ass for the biz lately, so I have not had the spare time I usually do have.

Ace Gunner
04-04-2013, 01:14 PM
I don't think Albert is near the top 5. He's closer to 10 than he is to 5.

Zero excuse?

Why because you think they should just pay Brendan Albert what he wants?

When Albert is traded for a 3rd, this place will go postal.

Sweet Daddy Hate
04-04-2013, 01:22 PM
When Albert is traded for a 3rd, this place will go postal.

As well it should.
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Messier
04-04-2013, 01:23 PM
When Albert is traded for a 3rd, this place will go postal.

I don't think they'll settle for a third. They asked for a second, if they don't get it they'll just keep Albert. They're in a position of strength. They don't need to get rid of him.

Hammock Parties
04-04-2013, 01:46 PM
I don't think Albert is near the top 5. He's closer to 10 than he is to 5.


Irrelevant. You can win a SB with Albert as a LT.

Therefore spending 1.1 on his replacement, regardless of money issues, is incredibly stupid.

It's a Carl Peterson move.

penbrook
04-04-2013, 01:49 PM
Irrelevant. You can win a SB with Albert as a LT.

Therefore spending 1.1 on his replacement, regardless of money issues, is incredibly stupid.

It's a Carl Peterson move.

Yes but Carl Peterson even said if he was still the gm Albert would of been signed long term.

Just Passin' By
04-04-2013, 01:50 PM
I don't care, it's money.

You said there was 0 excuse. I gave you a simple and valid excuse for the move in a year without elite talent at the top and a LT who seems to be overrating himself.

The Bad Guy
04-04-2013, 02:04 PM
Irrelevant. You can win a SB with Albert as a LT.

Therefore spending 1.1 on his replacement, regardless of money issues, is incredibly stupid.

It's a Carl Peterson move.

You could win a Sb with a young Jamon Bushrod. You could win a SB with a ton of tackles.

Listen to yourself, "regardless of money issues," there has to be a limit and Alberts asking price is well over what the Chiefs want to pay long term.

The Bad Guy
04-04-2013, 02:05 PM
Yes but Carl Peterson even said if he was still the gm Albert would of been signed long term.

Bullshit. Carl Peterson never made any long term signing easy.

The Bad Guy
04-04-2013, 02:06 PM
As well it should.
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Why though? Again Albert is a nice player. He's not a world beater contrary to what's said on here.

The Bad Guy
04-04-2013, 02:11 PM
If I had my way, I'd trade Albert, start Stephenson, sign Clabo and draft Geno.

Ebolapox
04-04-2013, 02:13 PM
I know we bug you constantly for this stuff, but any word on how geno's visit went?

this is the last time I'll bug you on this specifically. seriously, apologies. this has got to get old for you, I'm sorry for asking--just curious.

penbrook
04-04-2013, 02:13 PM
If I had my way, I'd trade Albert, start Stephenson, sign Clabo and draft Geno.

This.

The Bad Guy
04-04-2013, 02:14 PM
this is the last time I'll bug you on this specifically. seriously, apologies. this has got to get old for you, I'm sorry for asking--just curious.

Sorry man missed the post.

The only info I got was that it went well, but that's standard. They like his arm a lot.

I continue to be told no smokescreen.

Just Passin' By
04-04-2013, 02:15 PM
If I had my way, I'd trade Albert, start Stephenson, sign Clabo and draft Geno.

They'd probably be better off trading the pick to a team like the Raiders (I know, but it's just an example) for a 2nd this year and their 1st next year. I'd certainly give the Jaguars a call about the idea.

penbrook
04-04-2013, 02:16 PM
Sorry man missed the post.

The only info I got was that it went well, but that's standard. They like his arm a lot.

I continue to be told no smokescreen.

Yea have to agree. After reading the article about what Breer asked Dorsey and Dorsey is insisting that hes not smokescreening anybody.

Sassy Squatch
04-04-2013, 02:19 PM
Yea have to agree. After reading the article about what Breer asked Dorsey and Dorsey is insisting that hes not smokescreening anybody.
Are you naive? The point of a smokescreen is to make people believe you have interest. He won't ever insinuate anything we do is a smokescreen.

Direckshun
04-04-2013, 02:23 PM
The one playoff game he's played, Branden Albert was beated like a rented mule by Suggs.

Just saying.

The Bad Guy
04-04-2013, 02:25 PM
Yeah, despite being told no smokescreen, and Dorsey's article, there's still an enormous chance of a smoke screen.

Just Passin' By
04-04-2013, 02:26 PM
Are you naive? The point of a smokescreen is to make people believe you have interest. He won't ever insinuate anything we do is a smokescreen.

Andy Reid wiped his ass with his right hand this morning, not his left. We're getting GENO! /penbook

The Bad Guy
04-04-2013, 02:27 PM
The one playoff game he's played, Branden Albert was beated like a rented mule by Suggs.

Just saying.

Albert has had his moments of greatness here.

I just don't see a dominant player like a majority here have been saying. I trust a lot of their evaluations (sans GoChiefs who just spews others opinions), but just don't see what they do.

Setsuna
04-04-2013, 02:32 PM
ROFL @ people jerking off Jackal. Didn't they say the same things about Kalil? He is going to get punked so bad. The difference between the NFL and college is massive. Joker gonna get wtfpwnd. Anyone look at the schedules yet or are they out? I wanna see possible draft team schedules for who can realistically draft him. EXCEPT the Jags.

patteeu
04-04-2013, 02:33 PM
Sorry man missed the post.

The only info I got was that it went well, but that's standard. They like his arm a lot.

I continue to be told no smokescreen.

Did they say anything about whether or not he was able to inspire them? Did your source sound like he'd been drained of energy?

The Bad Guy
04-04-2013, 02:33 PM
ROFL @ people jerking off Jackal. Didn't they say the same things about Kalil? He is going to get punked so bad. The difference between the NFL and college is massive. Joker gonna get wtfpwnd. Anyone look at the schedules yet or are they out? I wanna see possible draft team schedules for who can realistically draft him. EXCEPT the Jags.

It's funny watching you post like you know what the fuck you are talking about.

Kalil had a great rookie year.

The Bad Guy
04-04-2013, 02:35 PM
Did they say anything about whether or not he was able to inspire them? Did your source sound like he'd been drained of energy?

Ha, the source was pissed that Geno didn't offer the maintenance staff help.

RyFo18
04-04-2013, 02:37 PM
I can't wait until they draft Eric Fisher.

patteeu
04-04-2013, 02:38 PM
I can't wait until they draft Eric Fisher.

Big fan of the Fishman, huh?

ChiefsCountry
04-04-2013, 02:38 PM
Only the fucking Chiefs would get the first overall pick and use it on a fucking LT that isn't even the best lineman on his college team and trade for Alex Smith. Same shit, different people.

RyFo18
04-04-2013, 02:39 PM
Big fan of the Fishman, huh?

I'm pretty impartial to he or Joeckel...Just saying b/c this bet is re: Joeckel.

ChiefsCountry
04-04-2013, 02:40 PM
I really want to know what these fuckhead NFL people see in Luke Jockel. He is a decent LT propsect, a sure first rounder but he is not some amazing LT god that deserves to go #1 overall. Matt Kahili last year is ten times the prospect this fool is.

The Bad Guy
04-04-2013, 02:40 PM
Only the ****ing Chiefs would get the first overall pick and use it on a ****ing LT that isn't even the best lineman on his college team and trade for Alex Smith. Same shit, different people.

I think the regime deserves the chance for the whole picture to play out before they get tar and feathered.

penbrook
04-04-2013, 02:42 PM
Kiper says Fisher the best when facing good teams but his struggles came in lesser competition.

The Bad Guy
04-04-2013, 02:42 PM
I really want to know what these ****head NFL people see in Luke Jockel. He is a decent LT propsect, a sure first rounder but he is not some amazing LT god that deserves to go #1 overall. Matt Kahili last year is ten times the prospect this fool is.

Gotta pick someone #1 in a class that's about as top heavy as Kate Bosworth.

Setsuna
04-04-2013, 02:42 PM
They'd probably be better off trading the pick to a team like the Raiders (I know, but it's just an example) for a 2nd this year and their 1st next year. I'd certainly give the Jaguars a call about the idea.

We don't bail teams out of stupid moves anymore. Stick with the Faid.

The Bad Guy
04-04-2013, 02:43 PM
Kiper says Fisher the best when facing good teams but his struggles came in lesser competition.

Honest question, did you watch any college football and form your own opinions about players?

penbrook
04-04-2013, 02:44 PM
Honest question, did you watch any college football and form your own opinions about players?

Yes but I dont pay attention to the lineman.

The Bad Guy
04-04-2013, 02:45 PM
Yes but I dont pay attention to the lineman.

Fair enough.

penbrook
04-04-2013, 02:45 PM
Kiper said something smart. He said in a normal draft Joeckel would be a mid to late first round pick but hes #1 because you got to pick someone.

Setsuna
04-04-2013, 02:46 PM
It's funny watching you post like you know what the **** you are talking about.

Kalil had a great rookie year.

You hush boy. I noticed the Vikings had a top 5 passing offense....oh wait no they didn't. What good did he do? I'll wait.

Just Passin' By
04-04-2013, 02:46 PM
We don't bail teams out of stupid moves anymore. Stick with the Faid.

Until they prove they've changed, the Jaguars are still the team that drafted Blaine Gabbert and let him start NFL games.

RyFo18
04-04-2013, 02:53 PM
You hush boy. I noticed the Vikings had a top 5 passing offense....oh wait no they didn't. What good did he do? I'll wait.

lolwut?

I will second that Kalil played very well in 2012.

Sassy Squatch
04-04-2013, 02:59 PM
You hush boy. I noticed the Vikings had a top 5 passing offense....oh wait no they didn't. What good did he do? I'll wait.
Yikes. Are you Bosschiefs son?

patteeu
04-04-2013, 03:01 PM
Yikes. Are you Bosschiefs son?

Ban. ROFL

ChiefsCountry
04-04-2013, 03:03 PM
Yikes. Are you Bosschiefs son?

Cross multiple thread humor. Nice. :clap:

Direckshun
04-04-2013, 03:05 PM
Joeckel = Kalil

Fisher = Staley

Lane Johnson = Trent Williams

Molitoth
04-04-2013, 03:06 PM
Albert's demanding top 5 money right now. The rookie won't sniff top 5 money until 6 years from now.

I'm still struggling with this post.


So lets say Albert gets traded, and we draft Joeckel at #1....

Joeckel plays out his rookie contract, and has arguably placed himself in the top 5-10 of Left Tackles in the NFL, and the Chiefs still don't have a QB ranked in the top half of the NFL.
Joeckel is now demanding to be paid like a top 5 LT.

Do you rid of Joeckel and draft his replacement, or do you pay the man and look for the real problem.... QB....

ChiefsCountry
04-04-2013, 03:07 PM
Joeckel = Kalil

Fisher = Staley

Lane Johnson = Trent Williams

Direckshun = Fail

patteeu
04-04-2013, 03:13 PM
Joeckel = Kalil

Fisher = Staley

Lane Johnson = Trent Williams

Tell us who Branden Albert is so we can compare apples to apples.

patteeu
04-04-2013, 03:14 PM
I'm still struggling with this post.


So lets say Albert gets traded, and we draft Joeckel at #1....

Joeckel plays out his rookie contract, and has arguably placed himself in the top 5-10 of Left Tackles in the NFL, and the Chiefs still don't have a QB ranked in the top half of the NFL.
Joeckel is now demanding to be paid like a top 5 LT.

Do you rid of Joeckel and draft his replacement, or do you pay the man and look for the real problem.... QB....

Who's available in the draft?

Just Passin' By
04-04-2013, 03:16 PM
I'm still struggling with this post.


So lets say Albert gets traded, and we draft Joeckel at #1....

Joeckel plays out his rookie contract, and has arguably placed himself in the top 5-10 of Left Tackles in the NFL, and the Chiefs still don't have a QB ranked in the top half of the NFL.
Joeckel is now demanding to be paid like a top 5 LT.

Do you rid of Joeckel and draft his replacement, or do you pay the man and look for the real problem.... QB....

I don't understand what you're struggling with, so maybe you could clarify that part for me. As for the QB problem, the team traded for its QB. Now, whether that's part of some deeper scheme, I can't say, but it spent money and draft capital to bring A. Smith in. That means, at least potentially, that the team is happy at the QB spot and can address other issues, since Smith is only 28 and is nowhere near retirement age for his position.

Hammock Parties
04-04-2013, 03:31 PM
The one playoff game he's played, Branden Albert was beated like a rented mule by Suggs.

Just saying.

This is absolutely not true, pussy.

He was fine that day. Albert didn't allow one single pressure. He gave up one sack because Cassel held the ball too long on a third and long.

He wasn't great, but he wasn't "beaten like a rented mule."

Direckshun
04-04-2013, 03:46 PM
I'm amazed there hasn't been a photoshop of Joeckel with Heath Ledger's Joker facepaint.