Chiefs clear roster spot for Geno Smith - our starting QB is gone.

[Rain Man]

The Brady Quinn era has ended:

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/quinn-seahawks-backup-qb-233023094--nfl.html

Quinn in as Seahawks' backup QB

Brady Quinn wins ... the backup quarterback job with the Seattle Seahawks.

After the Seahawks brought in Quinn, Matt Leinart and Tyler Thigpen for tryouts on Monday, the team decided to go with Quinn, the team announced Tuesday. No contract details were announced.

The backup quarterback opening was created last week with the Seahawks dealt Matt Flynn to the Oakland Raiders. Flynn lost a battle in training camp last year with rookie Russell Wilson for Seattle's starting job.

Quinn took over as the Kansas City Chiefs' starter last year when Matt Cassel was injured. In eight games as the starter, Quinn threw two touchdown passes and eight interceptions. The former first-round pick from Notre Dame also spent time with the Cleveland Browns, starting 12 games in three years, and the Denver Broncos, where he never played in two seasons.

Leinart was thought to have a chance to land the Seattle job despite lackluster play the past few seasons while bouncing between Arizona, Houston and Oakland. He played in college at USC for current Seahawks coach Pete Carroll.

Thigpen, meanwhile, possesses running ability similar to Wilson that would have worked well on the Seahawks' read-option plays. But he had started only one NFL game the past five seasons, with Miami in 2010.

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

We still have 3 QB's .
There will be no Geno Smith in KC.

[penbrook]

We still have 3 QB's .
There will be no Geno Smith in KC.

Yea there will be.

Depth Chart for QB in 2013

1) Alex Smith
2) Geno Smith
3) Chase Daniel

[ChiefAshhole20]

Switch Geno and Chase and I think you got it...

[siberian khatru]

Misleading thread title = one-week ban

[penbrook]

Switch Geno and Chase and I think you got it...

No the depth chart is right.

[Rain Man]

Misleading thread title = one-week ban

If only. I would be so productive.

[Cannibal]

Quinn blows, but not based on last year. God our coaches sucked ass.

[alpha_omega]

Condolences to Joe Seahawk.

[In58men]

Alex Tanney beat out Quinn ROFL

[Deberg_1990]

Wow, good for Quinn.....From the outhouse to the penthouse

[Chief Roundup]

:facepalm:

[Cannibal]

Looks like Daboll is now a "coaching assistant" with the Patriots.

[DTLB58]

Alex Tanney beat out Quinn ROFL

Not really. Quinn wasn't under contract.

[Ace Gunner]

Quinn beat out the mighty THIGS :loser:

[Gravedigger]

I do think Stanzi is training camp fodder at this point though, I don't believe there is any way we don't draft a QB in one of the rounds this year. Whether it be Geno, Wilson, Dysert or whomever is there for us to get.

[patteeu]

Misleading thread title = one-week ban

One week! That's like 672 fifteen minute bans served consecutively. Pretty harsh.

[WhitiE]

One week! That's like 672 fifteen minute bans served consecutively. Pretty harsh.

Nice

[JoeyChuckles]

Hey Rain Man, is this the first news you have ever broke on here? I mean Chiefs related. I've yet to break that barrier.

[Hammock Parties]

lol @ all the dipshits I slayed last offseason in the debate over this turd.

[BigMeatballDave]

lol @ all the dipshits I slayed last offseason in the debate over this turd.

How do you know you weren't trolled?

[Ming the Merciless]

the master plan is one step closer

[Imon Yourside]

Step right up Geno FUCKING SMITH!!!!!!!!!

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

I feel like Alex from Clockwork Orange right now. Righty-right-right!
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[AussieChiefsFan]

Oh no not Brady Quinn :(

[BlackHelicopters]

Deepest sympathy to all Seahawk fans.

[ptlyon]

Deepest sympathy to all Seahawk fans.

I feel worse for minnesota.

Not really.

[ayleswbj]

GENO SMITH = AKILI SMITH!!!

Go Chiefs! draft from the inside out and take that dam left tackle!! finally have some major success for the long haul!!

[Rain Man]

Hey Rain Man, is this the first news you have ever broke on here? I mean Chiefs related. I've yet to break that barrier.

I broke a story a few years ago about some fourth string offensive lineman being signed. this may or may not be my biggest story ever.

[Rain Man]

One week! That's like 672 fifteen minute bans served consecutively. Pretty harsh.

I am hoping I can serve all of those sentences concurrently.

[DMAC]

GENO SMITH = AKILI SMITH!!!

Go Chiefs! draft from the inside out and take that dam left tackle!! finally have some major success for the long haul!!

LMAO

[wazu]

Deepest sympathy to all Seahawk fans.

Yes, shedding a tear this morning for them and their terrible QB situation.

[patteeu]

I thought for sure that Tyler Thigpen was the guy for that backup spot.

[Halfcan]

I dont understand how Any team could want brady Quit- he has a weak arm and no heart. He is absolutely horrendous- glad he is gone!!

Definitly one of the the top 5 Worst QB's in Chiefs history.

[Dave Lane]

Switch Geno and Chase and I think you got it...

Cut Chase and I think you have it.

Chase is not an option.

[Setsuna]

Rain Man has gone off the deep end. Ricky Stanzi is still a Chief idiot. Wow. Delusional. This place has gone full retard.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

GENO SMITH = AKILI SMITH!!!

Go Chiefs! draft from the inside out and take that dam left tackle!! finally have some major success for the long haul!!

Your mom should take you to the zoo and stop for ice cream; you need to get out of the house more.
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[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Stanzi will not be a Chief much longer.
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[ayleswbj]

Your mom should take you to the zoo and stop for ice cream; you need to get out of the house more.
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Geno, The best QB in one of the weakest classes in years. Leader of a 7-6 team with a gimmick offense. The infatuation with this guy is hilarious, next years crop actually has Franchise changers. Teddy Bridgewater, AJ Mcarron, Logan Thomas, Aaron Murry, Taj Boyd all make Geno look amateurish. Hell if James Franklin was in this draft he may give you as much as Geno, at least he can use his legs.

[BigCatDaddy]

Geno, The best QB in one of the weakest classes in years. Leader of a 7-6 team with a gimmick offense. The infatuation with this guy is hilarious, next years crop actually has Franchise changers. Teddy Bridgewater, AJ Mcarron, Logan Thomas, Aaron Murry, Taj Boyd all make Geno look amateurish. Hell if James Franklin was in this draft he may give you as much as Geno, at least he can use his legs.


Blackbob?

[B14ckmon]

Geno, The best QB in one of the weakest classes in years. Leader of a 7-6 team with a gimmick offense. The infatuation with this guy is hilarious, next years crop actually has Franchise changers. Teddy Bridgewater, AJ Mcarron, Logan Thomas, Aaron Murry, Taj Boyd all make Geno look amateurish. Hell if James Franklin was in this draft he may give you as much as Geno, at least he can use his legs.

I'm just glad no one drafted RG3 who played in an almost identical offense.

AJ McCarron lol. Kill yourself.

[Chief_For_Life58]

Geno, The best QB in one of the weakest classes in years. Leader of a 7-6 team with a gimmick offense. The infatuation with this guy is hilarious, next years crop actually has Franchise changers. Teddy Bridgewater, AJ Mcarron, Logan Thomas, Aaron Murry, Taj Boyd all make Geno look amateurish. Hell if James Franklin was in this draft he may give you as much as Geno, at least he can use his legs.

Yeah we need Joeckel! Right tackles are game changers!!!! he'll win us a super bowl FOR SURE!!!!

[AlexSmithDynasty]

I'm just glad no one drafted RG3 who played in an almost identical offense.

AJ McCarron lol. Kill yourself.

At least if you draft McCArron you can look at his girlfriend in the stands on game day.

[BigCatDaddy]

At least if you draft McCArron you can look at his girlfriend in the stands on game day.

That didn't make the Brodie Croyle shit fest any more enjoyable and Brodie was a better prospect than AJ.

[ayleswbj]

I'm just glad no one drafted RG3 who played in an almost identical offense.

AJ McCarron lol. Kill yourself.



This is hilarious, comparing Geno Smith with RG3. Lets see, RG3 recruited by Harbaugh to play at standford, academic all american who graduated in 3 years. One of the main reasons he went to Baylor was because he was also one of the best Hurdlers in the ENTIRE WORLD and Balylor has a great track and field team. Geno Smith, to West Virginia. Why, no other school recruited him, oh wait Alabama. Didnt go because he couldnt beat out AJ Mcarron who was already there and he couldnt beat him out, also much more highly recruited.

Pleas dont compare this scrubb with a world class Athlete like RG3. Break those bad habits and let the Chiefs work the right way. Why are the Niners finally getting good? Because they drafted 1st round lineman after 1 round lineman! The entire line is practically High first round picks.

[BigCatDaddy]

This is hilarious, comparing Geno Smith with RG3. Lets see, RG3 recruited by Harbaugh to play at standford, academic all american who graduated in 3 years. One of the main reasons he went to Baylor was because he was also one of the best Hurdlers in the ENTIRE WORLD and Balylor has a great track and field team. Geno Smith, to West Virginia. Why, no other school recruited him, oh wait Alabama. Didnt go because he couldnt beat out AJ Mcarron who was already there and he couldnt beat him out, also much more highly recruited.

Pleas dont compare this scrubb with a world class Athlete like RG3. Break those bad habits and let the Chiefs work the right way. Why are the Niners finally getting good? Because they drafted 1st round lineman after 1 round lineman! The entire line is practically High first round picks.

And yet they got their ass smoked by who? Oh, a team with a 1st round QB that played balls out. Although, I don't believe Flacco was a world class hurdler so I'm somewhat surprised he pulled off the win. Take your TrueFan shit and shove it up your ass. 1990 called and wants its post back.

[AlexSmithDynasty]

And yet they got their ass smoked by who? Oh, a team with a 1st round QB that played balls out. Although, I don't believe Flacco was a world class hurdler so I'm somewhat surprised he pulled off the win. Take your TrueFan shit and shove it up your ass. 1990 called and wants its post back.

Yeah it's pretty clear they won because they had a first round QB and the Niners only had a second round QB...

[B14ckmon]

This is hilarious, comparing Geno Smith with RG3. Lets see, RG3 recruited by Harbaugh to play at standford, academic all american who graduated in 3 years. One of the main reasons he went to Baylor was because he was also one of the best Hurdlers in the ENTIRE WORLD and Balylor has a great track and field team. Geno Smith, to West Virginia. Why, no other school recruited him, oh wait Alabama. Didnt go because he couldnt beat out AJ Mcarron who was already there and he couldnt beat him out, also much more highly recruited.

Pleas dont compare this scrubb with a world class Athlete like RG3. Break those bad habits and let the Chiefs work the right way. Why are the Niners finally getting good? Because they drafted 1st round lineman after 1 round lineman! The entire line is practically High first round picks.

No one was comparing his abilities to RG3 retard. You used the WVU "gimmick" offense against Geno. I pointed out that RG3 ran the same offense in college. Making your argument super fucking dumb.

[ayleswbj]

Flacco was also Highly highly touted as a superstar. Started at Michigan and everyone knew he was gonna be good. Got smoked? by 3 point? Who is living in 1990's? The chiefs are finally breaking the mold and you want them to keep doing the same ol stupid shit that makes you repost and repost all this insanity. Take a sub-par player just because you have the top pick. Best Player Available!!! Geno is Not!! Its just a fact. There is not a nastier line in football than the Niners and the Chiefs could have that as well. With Albert and Jockhel. For years to come!

[BigCatDaddy]

Flacco was also Highly highly touted as a superstar. Started at Michigan and everyone knew he was gonna be good. Got smoked? by 3 point? Who is living in 1990's? The chiefs are finally breaking the mold and you want them to keep doing the same ol stupid shit that makes you repost and repost all this insanity. Take a sub-par player just because you have the top pick. Best Player Available!!! Geno is Not!! Its just a fact. There is not a nastier line in football than the Niners and the Chiefs could have that as well. With Albert and Jockhel. For years to come!

Joe Thomas likes this post. The Browns just need a 1st round RT and they are ****ing set!

Not only are they not only NOT breaking the mold this is the same damn blue print they've used for decades. Trade for someone else's steaming pyle of shit.

[Chief_For_Life58]

Flacco was also Highly highly touted as a superstar. Started at Michigan and everyone knew he was gonna be good.

lulz wat?

[notorious]

Am I the only one that thinks thigpen would make a good #3?

[BigCatDaddy]

lulz wat?

Yeah, I'm on the fence if he is a troll or idiot at the moment. I'm leaning towards idiot.

[AlexSmithDynasty]

Joe Thomas likes this post. The Browns just need a 1st round RT and they are ****ing set!

Joe Thomas was a great pick for the browns. Same cant be said for Tim Couch, Brady Quinn, Colt McCoy, Brandon Weeden, etc.

[ayleswbj]

I compare his abilities because it doesnt matter what offense RG played in, he and Luck are once in a generation QB's. Geno Played in this gimmick and it made him look much better than he really is. If you dont think, then just watch some tape and read the scouting reports. Yes of course he will go high in this draft, this draft for QBs is terrible. He would be a 2nd rounder next year. His abilities are limited, RG3 can take a snap from under center no problem, as you saw in the regular season. As far as the Retard comment goes, its clear who that goes to. Dont think i have to speak on that further.

[BigCatDaddy]

Joe Thomas was a great pick for the browns. Same cant be said for Tim Couch, Brady Quinn, Colt McCoy, Brandon Weeden, etc.

And Joe has how many playoffs win for as great of a LT he is? Couch and Quinn were okay picks they just didn't pan out. That's the chance you take on being great. Sometimes you strike out. McCoy was good value in the 3rd and probably just as good as Alex. They has their head up their asses with Weeden.

[BigCatDaddy]

I compare his abilities because it doesnt matter what offense RG played in, he and Luck are once in a generation QB's. Geno Played in this gimmick and it made him look much better than he really is. If you dont think, then just watch some tape and read the scouting reports. Yes of course he will go high in this draft, this draft for QBs is terrible. He would be a 2nd rounder next year. His abilities are limited, RG3 can take a snap from under center no problem, as you saw in the regular season. As far as the Retard comment goes, its clear who that goes to. Dont think i have to speak on that further.

From Jon Gruden

When Geno Smith came in for QB camp, there were a couple of big questions to address in assessing his value.



For one, you start with the question of production. With Smith, the one I get asked is this: "Is this guy simply a product of a system?" I get it. Hey, those big numbers cut both ways. They might look good, but they also make scouts suspicious. Does the system create the quarterback, or is the quarterback maximizing the system? I mean, 42 touchdowns and six picks?



Here's what I see.







Maybe the system is great, but I don't know of a quarterback who has had as many decision-making opportunities as Smith had. And you know what? He made the right decisions. For instance: Every running play that was called, he had the option to hand the ball off, but he could also check out of the play and throw it. There were always options.

Every single play they could hand it off, or throw a bubble screen or a tap screen (he completed 112 screen passes in 2012) and as a product of some of those plays, you get hit in the face and you've got to be back on the ball again before you can even say, "West Virginia.'' There's a pace to the decisions. That offense would drive a lot of quarterbacks crazy. It's hard. It isn't just "easy production" -- it can simply look easy if you have a great decision-maker. I like the mental grind that he's been trained to deal with.



It's hard to find prospects such as Smith who possess that size and that speed, but it's also that ability to make quick decisions. I think it's a great accomplishment that he ran that offense like he did. I don't like to simply say because of a track record with a system, "He's got inflated production." I hate when people say that. It's bull. The same systems can produce entirely different prospects. Smith's given himself a chance to be the No. 1 pick in the draft because he can make decisions.



The second question I'm asked is: With the recent trends with read-option capability in guys like Russell Wilson, Colin Kaepernick and Robert Griffin III, is Smith really a threat in multiple ways? The numbers don't really point to that, after all. The guy had a total of 152 yards rushing last year. But as I said, he's not lacking speed.



I think what's most intriguing about him is that the read-option capabilities are there, even if we didn't see a lot of it. Look, I don't ever want to just have a quarterback come into the NFL and think he essentially majored in the read-option. In the current NFL, I think there's a place for it because it does regulate what the defense can do. You get to dictate matchups and create a threat if the guy has that running skill.



So if you can be a real threat to do that, like Wilson or Kaepernick can with the right combination of size and speed, and also master the protections and master the pocket like Smith is capable of, you create that double-edged combination. If that's what you want from him, I think he can be dangerous. The way I see it, if Smith gets with the right guy and can stay in the same system to develop, West Virginia coach Dana Holgorsen has proved how he can. So you can draft him having seen him adjust to a new system and take off.



Once you get those two questions out the way, you deal with the last one. The one I've been asked is whether this guy is truly worthy of a No. 1 pick.




I answer that by considering where he is not in every draft, but for this class specifically. In this class, I definitely think he's a guy you could take at No. 1, or at least in that range if it's your top need. Sure, a lot of people say he's not as good as Andrew Luck or Griffin. Well, last time I checked, those guys aren't in this draft. It's supply and demand. In this league, you need a quarterback, and if you're a general manager or a coach you can't just operate with the idea you're content to wait until you're in the perfect position to take a can't-miss prospect. In this class, the closest thing to that is Smith. And if I needed a quarterback, I'd be willing to take him high.



We know he can throw the ball. I think he certainly can get a little better at his footwork, and it's something I tried to point out in working with him. But we know and like the overall athleticism he has. In the end, I think he's going to be a heck of a player, and that also has to do with experience.



Smith has seen it all, and so as you evaluate, you can, too. You're getting to see a body of work over four years, and it's a big body of work. We saw him play in big games, and we saw him play under two different coaches. He's had an incredible amount of things happen to him. I like that he's come from Miami all the way to West Virginia and hasn't just played for the two coaches, but has also gone from the Big East to the Big 12. A lot of people don't think that's a big deal. It is. When they realigned the NFC and the Buccaneers went from the NFC Central to the NFC South, it was a bigger deal than people realized. Switching conferences and playing teams that you're not used to playing is a very big deal.



In the end, it comes down to upside. Smith is big enough, athletic enough and sharp in his decision-making. He's charismatic and passionate. In his case, and in this QB class, if the need is there, I'm not sure what else you're looking for

[ayleswbj]

Joe Thomas likes this post. The Browns just need a 1st round RT and they are ****ing set!

Not only are they not only NOT breaking the mold this is the same damn blue print they've used for decades. Trade for someone else's steaming pyle of shit.

You cant be serious, how can you know if you have a good QB when you are rolling out swiss cheese on gameday and he cant even stay upright. Everyone thought Cassell would succeed, he was great with the Pats, Quinn was also a first round QB. None of these guys could stand in the pocket without getting there sh** blown up. Give me a great great O-line. I dont need the best QB of the weak QB draft. A team is built from the inside out, I am guessing you could ask any good QB this and he will tell you the same thing.

[BigCatDaddy]

You cant be serious, how can you know if you have a good QB when you are rolling out swiss cheese on gameday and he cant even stay upright. Everyone thought Cassell would succeed, he was great with the Pats, Quinn was also a first round QB. None of these guys could stand in the pocket without getting there sh** blown up. Give me a great great O-line. I dont need the best QB of the weak QB draft. A team is built from the inside out, I am guessing you could ask any good QB this and he will tell you the same thing.

How many sacks did Brandon Albert give up? The Chiefs line was more then okay. It was pointed out many times there were open receivers that Cassell just didn't see or couldn't throw the ball to with this weak ass arm.

Give me Aaron Rodgers and average O-Line anyway over Alex Smiff and blowing high picks on fatties. ****, Rodgers was winning games with the worst O-Line in football for awhile. I'm pretty sure Green Bay still knew what they had.


You must be a kid, because you don't know shit about Chief football history.

[Chief_For_Life58]

whats less valuable to a football team than a right tackle? guard? why would a team take a player at 1.1 where you want an impact player who can change games. I dont see right tackles changing games.
Drafting Jake Long over Matt Ryan really panned out well for miami didnt it

[BigCatDaddy]

whats less valuable to a football team than a right tackle? guard? why would a team take a player at 1.1 where you want an impact player who can change games. I dont see right tackles changing games.
Drafting Jake Long over Matt Ryan really panned out well for miami didnt it

Yeah, it's pretty amazing that no matter who is playing O-Line any particular year the great QB's seem to always be great.

[ayleswbj]

From Jon Gruden

When Geno Smith came in for QB camp, there were a couple of big questions to address in assessing his value.



For one, you start with the question of production. With Smith, the one I get asked is this: "Is this guy simply a product of a system?" I get it. Hey, those big numbers cut both ways. They might look good, but they also make scouts suspicious. Does the system create the quarterback, or is the quarterback maximizing the system? I mean, 42 touchdowns and six picks?






Maybe the system is great, but I don't know of a quarterback who has had as many decision-making opportunities as Smith had. And you know what? He made the right decisions. For instance: Every running play that was called, he had the option to hand the ball off, but he could also check out of the play and throw it. There were always options.

Every single play they could hand it off, or throw a bubble screen or a tap screen (he completed 112 screen passes in 2012) and as a product of some of those plays, you get hit in the face and you've got to be back on the ball again before you can even say, "West Virginia.'' There's a pace to the decisions. That offense would drive a lot of quarterbacks crazy. It's hard. It isn't just "easy production" -- it can simply look easy if you have a great decision-maker. I like the mental grind that he's been trained to deal with.



It's hard to find prospects such as Smith who possess that size and that speed, but it's also that ability to make quick decisions. I think it's a great accomplishment that he ran that offense like he did. I don't like to simply say because of a track record with a system, "He's got inflated production." I hate when people say that. It's bull. The same systems can produce entirely different prospects. Smith's given himself a chance to be the No. 1 pick in the draft because he can make decisions.



The second question I'm asked is: With the recent trends with read-option capability in guys like Russell Wilson, Colin Kaepernick and Robert Griffin III, is Smith really a threat in multiple ways? The numbers don't really point to that, after all. The guy had a total of 152 yards rushing last year. But as I said, he's not lacking speed.



I think what's most intriguing about him is that the read-option capabilities are there, even if we didn't see a lot of it. Look, I don't ever want to just have a quarterback come into the NFL and think he essentially majored in the read-option. In the current NFL, I think there's a place for it because it does regulate what the defense can do. You get to dictate matchups and create a threat if the guy has that running skill.



So if you can be a real threat to do that, like Wilson or Kaepernick can with the right combination of size and speed, and also master the protections and master the pocket like Smith is capable of, you create that double-edged combination. If that's what you want from him, I think he can be dangerous. The way I see it, if Smith gets with the right guy and can stay in the same system to develop, West Virginia coach Dana Holgorsen has proved how he can. So you can draft him having seen him adjust to a new system and take off.



Once you get those two questions out the way, you deal with the last one. The one I've been asked is whether this guy is truly worthy of a No. 1 pick.




I answer that by considering where he is not in every draft, but for this class specifically. In this class, I definitely think he's a guy you could take at No. 1, or at least in that range if it's your top need. Sure, a lot of people say he's not as good as Andrew Luck or Griffin. Well, last time I checked, those guys aren't in this draft. It's supply and demand. In this league, you need a quarterback, and if you're a general manager or a coach you can't just operate with the idea you're content to wait until you're in the perfect position to take a can't-miss prospect. In this class, the closest thing to that is Smith. And if I needed a quarterback, I'd be willing to take him high.



We know he can throw the ball. I think he certainly can get a little better at his footwork, and it's something I tried to point out in working with him. But we know and like the overall athleticism he has. In the end, I think he's going to be a heck of a player, and that also has to do with experience.



Smith has seen it all, and so as you evaluate, you can, too. You're getting to see a body of work over four years, and it's a big body of work. We saw him play in big games, and we saw him play under two different coaches. He's had an incredible amount of things happen to him. I like that he's come from Miami all the way to West Virginia and hasn't just played for the two coaches, but has also gone from the Big East to the Big 12. A lot of people don't think that's a big deal. It is. When they realigned the NFC and the Buccaneers went from the NFC Central to the NFC South, it was a bigger deal than people realized. Switching conferences and playing teams that you're not used to playing is a very big deal.



In the end, it comes down to upside. Smith is big enough, athletic enough and sharp in his decision-making. He's charismatic and passionate. In his case, and in this QB class, if the need is there, I'm not sure what else you're looking for

I really like this article, as I watch everyone of these as well with Gruden. Now please go and find one article where he actually says anything bad about anyone of these guys. When they are in the room together its always the same. " man is this guy gonna be good." Where is there one time he said to the guys face. " Im sorry i just wouldnt draft you very high. I mean come on, he is an evaluator and a former head coach, so called QB guru. Every guy is better than the invention of sliced bread. You know he has real opinions behind closed doors.

[Chief_For_Life58]

I really like this article, as I watch everyone of these as well with Gruden. Now please go and find one article where he actually says anything bad about anyone of these guys. When they are in the room together its always the same. " man is this guy gonna be good." Where is there one time he said to the guys face. " Im sorry i just wouldnt draft you very high. I mean come on, he is an evaluator and a former head coach, so called QB guru. Every guy is better than the invention of sliced bread. You know he has real opinions behind closed doors.

dude what it comes down to is the number 1 pick has no value this year, because the top 10 players suck compared to other years. So we want to take a guy at 1.1 who will be the most valuable to our team saying we cant trade down. Which position is the most valuable to a NFL team? QB. Geno is the perfect qb to sit for a year and let him learn the nfl game, and at the same time pushing AS to play better because he has a rookie qb sitting behind him, if AS plays great, then awesome, we trade Geno down the road, if AS sucks, which he will, then we start Geno at the end of the season or next season and boom, superbowls.

[ayleswbj]

How many sacks did Brandon Albert give up? The Chiefs line was more then okay. It was pointed out many times there were open receivers that Cassell just didn't see or couldn't throw the ball to with this weak ass arm.

Give me Aaron Rodgers and average O-Line anyway over Alex Smiff and blowing high picks on fatties. ****, Rodgers was winning games with the worst O-Line in football for awhile. I'm pretty sure Green Bay still knew what they had.


You must be a kid, because you don't know shit about Chief football history.

That is just where we differ, I dont believe that Geno is a game changer, as a matter of fact i feel Alex is a much more intelligent QB with just as much athletic ability. He may not have a stronger arm, but he def has a better grasp of offensive concepts than Geno. You must be an old dude, who knows to much about Chiefs history. We young kids have a term for this. Turn your blinker off.!!! Turn the page!! Its time to build a franchise again, not take upside ex.. Tyson Jackson! Think back on your history and tell me how happy you have been. Its why you are on here having a spirited debate with me.

[BigCatDaddy]

That is just where we differ, I dont believe that Geno is a game changer, as a matter of fact i feel Alex is a much more intelligent QB with just as much athletic ability. He may not have a stronger arm, but he def has a better grasp of offensive concepts than Geno. You must be an old dude, who knows to much about Chiefs history. We young kids have a term for this. Turn your blinker off.!!! Turn the page!! Its time to build a franchise again, not take upside ex.. Tyson Jackson! Think back on your history and tell me how happy you have been. Its why you are on here having a spirited debate with me.

You dipshit. Tyson Jackson had no ****ing upside.

Yes. I remember 30 years of QB's not good enough to start for another team and the Chiefs being too chicken shit to draft one in the 1st.

It's not a fucking debate. You are being educated Marty.

[Chief_For_Life58]

geno played in 3 different offenses under 2 different head coaches also. obviously the kid knows how to learn nfl concepts.

[ayleswbj]

dude what it comes down to is the number 1 pick has no value this year, because the top 10 players suck compared to other years. So we want to take a guy at 1.1 who will be the most valuable to our team saying we cant trade down. Which position is the most valuable to a NFL team? QB. Geno is the perfect qb to sit for a year and let him learn the nfl game, and at the same time pushing AS to play better because he has a rookie qb sitting behind him, if AS plays great, then awesome, we trade Geno down the road, if AS sucks, which he will, then we start Geno at the end of the season or next season and boom, superbowls.


I think the QBs in this draft have no value this year. All 3 left tackles are absolute studs. I think will bring stability for the next 10 years. Your willing to draft geno, sit him and hope for the best? Give me a stud left tackle anyday. This is just where our philosophies differ, but i get what your saying. And trading Geno down the road? What kind of return do you think youll get? For sure your not getting the #1 pick back, maybe a 3 rounder if lucky. So you just took a guy #1 and traded him for a 3 rounder. Look at Mallet. Is he worse than Geno? Pats still are waiting to get something good for him. Year 3!

[Molitoth]

obvious troll is obvious

[Chief_For_Life58]

I think the QBs in this draft have no value this year. All 3 left tackles are absolute studs. I think will bring stability for the next 10 years. Your willing to draft geno, sit him and hope for the best? Give me a stud left tackle anyday. This is just where our philosophies differ, but i get what your saying. And trading Geno down the road? What kind of return do you think youll get? For sure your not getting the #1 pick back, maybe a 3 rounder if lucky. So you just took a guy #1 and traded him for a 3 rounder. Look at Mallet. Is he worse than Geno? Pats still are waiting to get something good for him. Year 3!

we already have a stud left tackle.
qbs are what win superbowls. I woulda traded the whole draft for RG3 last year. If you dont have a top qb, you arent winning the superbowl anymore and until we find one, we'll continue to be the kings of 8&8.

[ayleswbj]

You dipshit. Tyson Jackson had no ****ing upside.

Yes. I remember 30 years of QB's not good enough to start for another team and the Chiefs being too chicken shit to draft one in the 1st.

It's not a ****ing debate. You are being educated Marty.


Tyson Jackson had no upside??? ITs excactly why he was chosen 3rd overall!! No one had ever heard of him before the combine when he was unbelievable. He was real good at LSU but no one thought he was a top 5 pick. 30 yrs, you may have forgotten a guy name Trent Green. Who If im old enough to remember gave us 5 years of top 10 qb play. The guy was a stud. Plenty of QBs not able to start for other teams. Kurt Warner had a pretty good career after being cut, Tony Romo wasnt even drafted. So basically your saying you just wana draft a QB in the first just because you can. Pleas promote this guy to GM

[ayleswbj]

we already have a stud left tackle.
qbs are what win superbowls. I woulda traded the whole draft for RG3 last year. If you dont have a top qb, you arent winning the superbowl anymore and until we find one, we'll continue to be the kings of 8&8.


So then you should be elated with Alex Smith? He had the NFC title game won. It was over. He took the lead, stopped them and made them punt. Then Kyle Williams happened. It does not take away what he did in the playoffs, had it happened, he earned the right to play in that game. 2 muffed punts by williams and a fumble that was a no call. None of with had to do with Smith. I dont want to get this conv started, people will run wild.

[Chief_For_Life58]

Im gonna wait this year to pass judgement on AS. This is his year to improve to the next level and become what he should of been all along or be a backup the rest of his career. I just want the future qb position addressed and Geno fills that spot very nicely. I trust Dorsey and AR to make the right decisions though, they know better than us what to do and they definitely know the importance of the qb in the current nfl.

[Frosty]

Tyson Jackson had no upside??? ITs excactly why he was chosen 3rd overall!!

LMAO Jackson was chosen 3rd overall only because ***** is a dipshit.

[BigCatDaddy]

Tyson Jackson had no upside??? ITs excactly why he was chosen 3rd overall!! No one had ever heard of him before the combine when he was unbelievable. He was real good at LSU but no one thought he was a top 5 pick. 30 yrs, you may have forgotten a guy name Trent Green. Who If im old enough to remember gave us 5 years of top 10 qb play. The guy was a stud. Plenty of QBs not able to start for other teams. Kurt Warner had a pretty good career after being cut, Tony Romo wasnt even drafted. So basically your saying you just wana draft a QB in the first just because you can. Pleas promote this guy to GM

Ah, yes. The old exception to the rule arguments. There was once this guy drafted in the 6th round, it's possible! LMAO

Meanwhile teams like the Giants, Packers, Steelers, and Ravens are getting their guy in the 1st round and winning SB's.

7 of the last 8 teams that won the SB drafted a QB in round 1 and developed him. But yeah there was Drew Brees so if you want to go all in and put your money on the ball landing on green then that's your choice(philosophy). I'll choose red or black.

[listopencil]

That really sucks. There goes all of my Brady (Bitch) Quinn "KC BBQ" jokes.

[BigCatDaddy]

LMAO Jackson was chosen 3rd overall only because ***** is a dipshit.

Pretty much. Nobody else was taking him in the top 20. There was no upside to TJ at all. None, zilch, natta.

[ayleswbj]

Ah, yes. The old exception to the rule arguments. There was once this guy drafted in the 6th round, it's possible! LMAO

Meanwhile teams like the Giants, Packers, Steelers, and Ravens are getting their guy in the 1st round and winning SB's.

7 of the last 8 teams that won the SB drafted a QB in round 1 and developed him. But yeah there was Drew Brees so if you want to go all in and put your money on the ball landing on green then that's your choice(philosophy). I'll choose red or black.

All had really good Left tackles and Olines as well, Rothlisberger was not developed started as a rookie, Flacco was not developed , started all 16 as a rookie. Eli played more than half of his as a rookie. All the guys you are talking about were head and shoulders above where Geno is. LMAO

[BigCatDaddy]

All had really good Left tackles and Olines as well, Rothlisberger was not developed started as a rookie, Flacco was not developed , started all 16 as a rookie. Eli played more than half of his as a rookie. All the guys you are talking about were head and shoulders above where Geno is. LMAO

No. Actually most of those guys were considered similar prospects to Geno or they wouldn't have lasted as long as they did in the draft(Eli excluded). You can be developed while playing on the field, dumbass.

Do yourself a favor and lurk some more then come back and talk football with the adults. You're in over your head and wasting my time.

[Chief Roundup]

whats less valuable to a football team than a right tackle? guard? why would a team take a player at 1.1 where you want an impact player who can change games. I dont see right tackles changing games.
Drafting Jake Long over Matt Ryan really panned out well for miami didnt it

Matt Ryan is not all that either. Both players are meh.

[Chief Roundup]

No. Actually most of those guys were considered similar prospects to Geno or they wouldn't have lasted as long as they did in the draft(Eli excluded). You can be developed while playing on the field, dumbass.

Do yourself a favor and lurk some more then come back and talk football with the adults. You're in over your head and wasting my time.

Dude you are out of your mind about Geno. Remember there are a lot of people in the NFL that didn't give Geno a first round grade. That cannot be said at all for Roethlisberger who was thought to be a top 5 to 10 pick and Flacco had a first round grade.
Your Geno mancrush is not doing you any justice.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Ahhh, true fan dipshittery...
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[BigCatDaddy]

Dude you are out of your mind about Geno. Remember there are a lot of people in the NFL that didn't give Geno a first round grade. That cannot be said at all for Roethlisberger who was thought to be a top 5 to 10 pick and Flacco had a first round grade.
Your Geno mancrush is not doing you any justice.

Were you the same guy that said NFL scouts said Tannehill was way ahead of Geno and never backed that up?

[BigCatDaddy]

Ahhh, true fan dipshittery...
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Regardless of what happens I'm glad it's over in a few weeks and they can see what we got in their boy Smiff.

[BigCatDaddy]

Matt Ryan is not all that either. Both players are meh.

The Matt Ryan of throwing for 300 yards a game and 100 QB rating? That Matt Ryan?


You think Ryan is meh? But like you some Smiff?

[Chief Roundup]

Were you the same guy that said NFL scouts said Tannehill was way ahead of Geno and never backed that up?

I don't have to backup shit. If you are paying attention. Whether you like people on the networks and such or not they are the people that know a lot more than you or I do.
I have heard that stuff from Kiper, McShay, Mayock, Lombardi, Polian and others.

[Frosty]

The Matt Ryan of throwing for 300 yards a game and 100 QB rating? That Matt Ryan?


You think Ryan is meh? But like you some Smiff?

Yeah. There is a lot of WTF? in this thread today.

[Chief_For_Life58]

Matt Ryan is not all that either. Both players are meh.

lol what?

[BigCatDaddy]

I don't have to backup shit. If you are paying attention. Whether you like people on the networks and such or not they are the people that know a lot more than you or I do.
I have heard that stuff from Kiper, McShay, Mayock, Lombardi, Polian and others.

Ahh, Kiper. The guy that said Teo was the best player in the draft.

Of course you don't. Because you are talking out your ass.

[Chief Roundup]

The Matt Ryan of throwing for 300 yards a game and 100 QB rating? That Matt Ryan?


You think Ryan is meh? But like you some Smiff?

Where did I say I like or wanted Alex Smith?
You mean the Matt Ryan that has all pro players at all the skill positions all around him and still cannot win. It would be awfully easy to put up numbers with Roddy White, Julio Jones, Tony G, Turner and others. Matt Ryan cannot put that team on his back and win. He cannot do it. Ryan is a good QB but he is not elite and cannot lead that team to a SB without having all world talent. Yeah that makes me not want him on my team.
You all talk about mediocrity that is exactly where a QB like Ryan will keep a team. He is good enough to keep giving hope, but not good enough to close the deal.

[BigCatDaddy]

Yeah. There is a lot of WTF? in this thread today.

Yeah, I'm about done. I feel like I'm just beating the retarded kid in the 100 over and over again.

[Chief Roundup]

Ahh, Kiper. The guy that said Teo was the best player in the draft.

Of course you don't. Because you are talking out your ass.

No I am not. I have heard that same stuff out of the OTHER names I mentioned as well. Not just the one that you cherry picked.

[ayleswbj]

No. Actually most of those guys were considered similar prospects to Geno or they wouldn't have lasted as long as they did in the draft(Eli excluded). You can be developed while playing on the field, dumbass.

Do yourself a favor and lurk some more then come back and talk football with the adults. You're in over your head and wasting my time.

Well with all your name callin ill just assume your in Missouri somewhere cookin up some meth with just enough money to pay your internet. You must be cookin somethin if you think Geno is rated higher than any QB in the class of 04! The best class since 83! No starting right away in the NFL is called thrown into the fire, Developed is sitting behind and learning for a year or 2 like Rogers, Palmer and so on. You are far from an adult, develop on the field... if you are out there you can play. If you cant you sit back an develop. Find a new place to troll, you make chiefs fans look bad. Youve been stuck in loserville so long you cant see the light. Your almost invisible to real Chiefs fans who see all the good happening

[Frosty]

Where did I say I like or wanted Alex Smith?
You mean the Matt Ryan that has all pro players at all the skill positions all around him and still cannot win. It would be awfully easy to put up numbers with Roddy White, Julio Jones, Tony G, Turner and others. Matt Ryan cannot put that team on his back and win. He cannot do it. Ryan is a good QB but he is not elite and cannot lead that team to a SB without having all world talent. Yeah that makes me not want him on my team.
You all talk about mediocrity that is exactly where a QB like Ryan will keep a team. He is good enough to keep giving hope, but not good enough to close the deal.

LMAO

Matt Ryan turned that franchise around.

The only reason they don't win in the play-offs is because Mike Smith is Marty Junior and goes super conservative when they get a lead (they were destroying the 49ers before they let off and let them back in the game).

[BigCatDaddy]

Well with all your name callin ill just assume your in Missouri somewhere cookin up some meth with just enough money to pay your internet. You must be cookin somethin if you think Geno is rated higher than any QB in the class of 04! The best class since 83! No starting right away in the NFL is called thrown into the fire, Developed is sitting behind and learning for a year or 2 like Rogers, Palmer and so on. You are far from an adult, develop on the field... if you are out there you can play. If you cant you sit back an develop. Find a new place to troll, you make chiefs fans look bad. Youve been stuck in loserville so long you cant see the light. Your almost invisible to real Chiefs fans who see all the good happening

LMAO. I knew it. A super homer. Hey man, go checkout Arrowhead Pride. I hear they are basking with dumb ****s like yourself that drink that Koolaid. Here at CP we don't blindly take a dick in the ass. Is your mom's name Deb Deitweiler by chance?

By the way, I probably write bigger checks to the gov't than your bitch ass probably makes in a year.

[BigCatDaddy]

LMAO

Matt Ryan turned that franchise around.

The only reason they don't win in the play-offs is because Mike Smith is Marty Junior and goes super conservative when they get a lead (they were destroying the 49ers before they let off and let them back in the game).

Has Matty ever NOT made the playoffs?

[Frosty]

Has Matty ever NOT made the playoffs?

His second year, IIRC. Both he and Turner were hurt most of the second half of the season.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Regardless of what happens I'm glad it's over in a few weeks and they can see what we got in their boy Smiff.

If and when he starts to suck, I am going to neg bomb the FUCK out of ANYONE who blames the line.
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[Chief Roundup]

Has Matty ever NOT made the playoffs?

If you don't know info how can you be talking shit?

Yeah there have been 2 years he didn't make it to the playoffs. His first '08 and '10.
He was a big 0 for coming into this last offseason. 0-3 IIRC

[ayleswbj]

Ima Chiefs fan, who is not stuck on the same of shit as you, Just draft any QB because you have a high pick. Gets you exactly where we have been the last 10 years. You keep naming all these potential HOF Qbs like Geno Smith was just like them. The guy couldnt even get a good D1 scholarship and the one he did get he turned away cuz he knew he couldnt win the job. Talk about a homer, you need to Take a QB first just so you can finally say the Chiefs did it. Then you will sit and wallow, while he sits on the bench because he cant even beat out AS. What a GM you turned out to be. This is getting embarrassing for you, arguing a mediocre QB for the first overall pick. It has nothing to do with homer, it has to do with building a successful franchise. It starts with the guys up front. The QB will be there, even Geno couldnt succeed with what was going on this past season. We need a dominant left tackle

[Chief Roundup]

His second year, IIRC. Both he and Turner were hurt most of the second half of the season.

Hmm I was think that was his 3rd year. Not positive though.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Well with all your name callin ill just assume your in Missouri somewhere cookin up some meth with just enough money to pay your internet. You must be cookin somethin if you think Geno is rated higher than any QB in the class of 04! The best class since 83! No starting right away in the NFL is called thrown into the fire, Developed is sitting behind and learning for a year or 2 like Rogers, Palmer and so on. You are far from an adult, develop on the field... if you are out there you can play. If you cant you sit back an develop. Find a new place to troll, you make chiefs fans look bad. Youve been stuck in loserville so long you cant see the light. Your almost invisible to real Chiefs fans who see all the good happening

Barry, its time for you to leave.
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[Frosty]

If you don't know info how can you be talking shit?

Yeah there have been 2 years he didn't make it to the playoffs. His first '08 and '10.
He was a big 0 for coming into this last offseason. 0-3 IIRC

They made the play-offs every year under Ryan except for '09, when the injury bug hit. They still went 9-7 that year, breaking the franchise's history of never having back to back winning seasons.

They were 11-5 his first year, 2008.

Every play-off game he lost was to the eventual Super Bowl participant (Cardinals, Packers, Giants, 49ers).

[Sorter]

If you don't know info how can you be talking shit?

Yeah there have been 2 years he didn't make it to the playoffs. His first '08 and '10.
He was a big 0 for coming into this last offseason. 0-3 IIRC

Matt Ryan made the playoffs as a rookie.

Additionally, all of his playoff losses have been to the NFC SB representative.

[Sorter]

They made the play-offs every year under Ryan except for '09, when the injury bug hit. They still went 9-7 that year, breaking the franchise's history of never having back to back winning seasons.

They were 11-5 his first year, 2008.

Every play-off game he lost was to the eventual Super Bowl participant (Cardinals, Packers, Giants, 49ers).

Too quick for the ocelot today.

[BigCatDaddy]

If you don't know info how can you be talking shit?

Yeah there have been 2 years he didn't make it to the playoffs. His first '08 and '10.
He was a big 0 for coming into this last offseason. 0-3 IIRC

Because I know what the **** is. I know disphits like yourself would prefer to have Jake Long, or Glenn Dorsey. Take the fatty, take the sure thing!

[Frosty]

If you don't know info how can you be talking shit?

Yeah there have been 2 years he didn't make it to the playoffs. His first '08 and '10.
He was a big 0 for coming into this last offseason. 0-3 IIRC

By the way, the irony here is pretty funny.

[Frosty]

Too quick for the ocelot today.

It's my cat like reflexes.

[Sorter]

In other news, I'm rewatching the Seattle/Atlanta game right now.

Fun stuff

[Frosty]

In other news, I'm rewatching the Seattle/Atlanta game right now.

Fun stuff

Watch Marty Jr build a big lead and then piss it away.

[BigCatDaddy]

Watch Marty Jr build a big lead and then piss it away.

If fairness, Marty wouldn't have even have built that big of a lead before taking his foot off the gas.

[Frosty]

If fairness, Marty wouldn't have even have built that big of a lead before taking his foot off the gas.

True. Smith has a maddening habit of letting off the gas in the second half of games. Maybe Marty isn't the right comparison.

[Sorter]

True. Smith has a maddening habit of letting off the gas in the second half of games. Maybe Marty isn't the right comparison.

It blows my mind.

[Rain Man]

I haven't read the whole thread yet, but this Quinn news really has people talking.

[Frosty]

I haven't read the whole thread yet, but this Quinn news really has people talking.

Who?

[patteeu]

I haven't read the whole thread yet, but this Quinn news really has people talking.

Don't read the thread before you leave the office. It's filled with emotional goodbyes and you don't want to be brought to tears in front of your co-workers.

[Dave Lane]

I was praying when I opened this thread that Alex Smith had gone to his reward or been arrested for a double murder.

I am disappoint.

[Beeker]

lulz wat?

I think he got the helmets confused.

[Beeker]

Flacco was also Highly highly touted as a superstar. Started at Michigan

Since when did Flacco play for Michigan??? Helmets confuse you much??

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

I was praying when I opened this thread that Alex Smith had gone to his reward or been arrested for a double murder.

I am disappoint.

ROFL
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[notorious]

I don't understand why the Geno fans cream over him, and I don't understand why Truefans are so fucking stupid.

Where in the fuck does that put me?

[milkman]

Dude you are out of your mind about Geno. Remember there are a lot of people in the NFL that didn't give Geno a first round grade. That cannot be said at all for Roethlisberger who was thought to be a top 5 to 10 pick and Flacco had a first round grade.
Your Geno mancrush is not doing you any justice.

Joe Flacco was a late first round/high second round pick in most experts opinions, and almost everyone believed the Ravens reached taking him as high as they did.

[milkman]

Ima Chiefs fan, who is not stuck on the same of shit as you, Just draft any QB because you have a high pick. Gets you exactly where we have been the last 10 years. You keep naming all these potential HOF Qbs like Geno Smith was just like them. The guy couldnt even get a good D1 scholarship and the one he did get he turned away cuz he knew he couldnt win the job. Talk about a homer, you need to Take a QB first just so you can finally say the Chiefs did it. Then you will sit and wallow, while he sits on the bench because he cant even beat out AS. What a GM you turned out to be. This is getting embarrassing for you, arguing a mediocre QB for the first overall pick. It has nothing to do with homer, it has to do with building a successful franchise. It starts with the guys up front. The QB will be there, even Geno couldnt succeed with what was going on this past season. We need a dominant left tackle

Where we have been for the last 10 years, and for the 25 years prior to that, is taking someone else's trash at QB and trying to win against the big boys that have drafted and developed their own QBs.

[RealSNR]

Guys! Lay off! Seriously! You're chasing away all the new quality posters who have so many great new things to say!

I'm sorry, ayleswbj. You'll have to excuse us. Everybody is entitled to his/her opinion on Chiefs Planet, no matter how ludicrous, senseless, idiotic, ill-conceived, poorly written, cliched, unoriginal, or jaw-droppingly stupid it may be.

Go on, please. Tell us all about how the Chiefs will start to finally win if they copy the exact blueprint from the past 30 years that won us jack shit. We want you to feel welcome here.

[RunKC]

Next years QB class looks much better. Definitely a couple QB's I'd look at drafting in the first round.

[B14ckmon]

Next years QB class looks much better. Definitely a couple QB's I'd look at drafting in the first round.

I count one.

[RunKC]

I count one.

Guessing you've never heard of Tajh Boyd or David Fales.

[Sorter]

Next years QB class looks much better. Definitely a couple QB's I'd look at drafting in the first round.

ROFL

[Sorter]

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Teddy Bridgewater looks great against the powerhouse UConn.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Next years QB class looks much better. Definitely a couple QB's I'd look at drafting in the first round.

I just shake my head and laugh....
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[Sorter]

Run, RunKC, run!

http://legacy-cdn.smosh.com/smosh-pit/092010/jackass-board.gif

[RunKC]

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Teddy Bridgewater looks great against the powerhouse UConn.

I can't believe you think Geno is better than Bridgewater.

For shame.

[Sorter]

RunKC, you're an absolute mongoloid.

[Sorter]

Also, what an excellent throw against no pressure by Teddy at :15 against the vaunted UConn secondary.

Edit: ROFL at the throw at 1:57.

[RunKC]

The irony in this is that Geno also played against UConn early in his college career and he looked like hot trash.

[Sorter]

The irony in this is that Geno also played against UConn early in his college career and he looked like hot trash.

ROFL

I can't tell whether you've gone full L.A. Chieffan or if you're just a complete idiot.

I'm inclined to think it is the latter.

[RunKC]

ROFL

I can't tell whether you've gone full L.A. Chieffan or if you're just a complete idiot.

I'm inclined to think it is the latter.

So Geno throwing no TD's and only 160 yards against the same team is "good", but yet Bridgewater throwing 300+yards and 2 TD's is "bad"?

Got it.

Let the rationalizing begin.

[Sorter]

So Geno throwing no TD's and throwing only 160 yards against the same team is "good", but yet Bridgewater throwing 300+yards and 2 TD's is "bad"?

Got it.

Let the rationalizing begin.


Why don't you watch the actual game, moron. JFC.

[RunKC]

Why don't you watch the actual game, moron. JFC.

There's no need to with your logic.

A QB who throws TD's is worse than a QB who doesn't throw TD's.

Only at ChiefsPlanet is Geno considered an amazing QB prospect. JFC LMAO

[BossChief]

Ima Chiefs fan, who is not stuck on the same of shit as you, Just draft any QB because you have a high pick. Gets you exactly where we have been the last 10 years. You keep naming all these potential HOF Qbs like Geno Smith was just like them. The guy couldnt even get a good D1 scholarship and the one he did get he turned away cuz he knew he couldnt win the job. Talk about a homer, you need to Take a QB first just so you can finally say the Chiefs did it. Then you will sit and wallow, while he sits on the bench because he cant even beat out AS. What a GM you turned out to be. This is getting embarrassing for you, arguing a mediocre QB for the first overall pick. It has nothing to do with homer, it has to do with building a successful franchise. It starts with the guys up front. The QB will be there, even Geno couldnt succeed with what was going on this past season. We need a dominant left tackle

Not many here (myself included) think Alex Smith will completely suck in KC...most of us think he will do just enough to keep us hovering around 8-8 and just out of reach from the good quarterbacks in the draft while our homegrown talent wastes away.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Not many here (myself included) think Alex Smith will completely suck in KC...most of us think he will do just enough to keep us hovering around 8-8 and just out of reach from the good quarterbacks in the draft while our homegrown talent wastes away.

Yep, right in the ol' "Chicago Zone".
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[ayleswbj]

Guys! Lay off! Seriously! You're chasing away all the new quality posters who have so many great new things to say!

I'm sorry, ayleswbj. You'll have to excuse us. Everybody is entitled to his/her opinion on Chiefs Planet, no matter how ludicrous, senseless, idiotic, ill-conceived, poorly written, cliched, unoriginal, or jaw-droppingly stupid it may be.

Go on, please. Tell us all about how the Chiefs will start to finally win if they copy the exact blueprint from the past 30 years that won us jack shit. We want you to feel welcome here.


Its funny i feel the same way about what you old postesr write, kills me when i read ya all just want to take a QB with the first pick just because the Chiefs havent done it in 30 years, Yea what a great way to bulid a Franchise. Take a the best QB #1 in a extremely sup par QB class. Poorly written as you think it may be, its the truth. I stick with my opinion on building from the inside out. Geno smith is Akili Smith. But hey you can be happy knowing if they draft him nothing will have ever changed for you and you can keep posting the exact same things on the board for the next 30.

[Chiefs=Champions]

Its funny i feel the same way about what you old postesr write, kills me when i read ya all just want to take a QB with the first pick just because the Chiefs havent done it in 30 years, Yea what a great way to bulid a Franchise. Take a the best QB #1 in a extremely sup par QB class. Poorly written as you think it may be, its the truth. I stick with my opinion on building from the inside out. Geno smith is Akili Smith. But hey you can be happy knowing if they draft him nothing will have ever changed for you and you can keep posting the exact same things on the board for the next 30.

Its a poor lt class too, yet ur ok with taking one?

[Saccopoo]

Its funny i feel the same way about what you old postesr write, kills me when i read ya all just want to take a QB with the first pick just because the Chiefs havent done it in 30 years, Yea what a great way to bulid a Franchise. Take a the best QB #1 in a extremely sup par QB class. Poorly written as you think it may be, its the truth. I stick with my opinion on building from the inside out. Geno smith is Akili Smith. But hey you can be happy knowing if they draft him nothing will have ever changed for you and you can keep posting the exact same things on the board for the next 30.

Okay, I'll ignore the illiteracy in your post and go after substance.

Geno Smith is not Akili Smith. They are not even remotely alike in terms of play style, etc.

You are obviously parroting some idiot and haven't watched a single game of Geno's, because, if you did, you wouldn't be spouting such utter nonsense.

And it's not a subpar QB class. It's actually pretty deep with a lot of guys who could be potential high ceiling type of players. Lots of sleepers as well. And Geno's senior year was nearly identical to both Griffin's and Lucks from last season. And he posted combine numbers that were among the best you've seen from a high level quarterback prospect. You sir, are a moron.

Stop being stupid and do some research before spouting off a bunch of inane blather.

[RealSNR]

Guessing you've never heard of Tajh Boyd or David Fales.

Tajh Boyd has just as many question marks as turds like Tyler Wilson going into their senior seasons. He might impress or he might not. Putting him in the 1st round already is laughable.

And David Fales? Seriously?

God, you're dumb.

[RunKC]

Tajh Boyd has just as many question marks as turds like Tyler Wilson going into their senior seasons. He might impress or he might not. Putting him in the 1st round already is laughable.

And David Fales? Seriously?

God, you're dumb.

It's okay I didn't expect you to know a thing about Fales at all. LMAO

[cardken2]

Quinn has a real good shot at a Ring being on the Seattle Roster, not that he will have anything to do with getting there. But still gets a ring before any Chiefs.

[ayleswbj]

Okay, I'll ignore the illiteracy in your post and go after substance.

Geno Smith is not Akili Smith. They are not even remotely alike in terms of play style, etc.

You are obviously parroting some idiot and haven't watched a single game of Geno's, because, if you did, you wouldn't be spouting such utter nonsense.

And it's not a subpar QB class. It's actually pretty deep with a lot of guys who could be potential high ceiling type of players. Lots of sleepers as well. And Geno's senior year was nearly identical to both Griffin's and Lucks from last season. And he posted combine numbers that were among the best you've seen from a high level quarterback prospect. You sir, are a moron.

Stop being stupid and do some research before spouting off a bunch of inane blather.


By Illiteracy do you mean "ur" maybe you do to much spell check on a message board, or maybe you think i mean bored. Either way I am hoping you can guess the meaning. Maybe not though, Next time i will try to write at University level on a message board. What a freaking turd. As far as LT goes you sir need a lesson. This First round has 2 to 3 Franchise changers, guys who will anchor for 10 years or more. Not F'ing sleepers! Jesus you have been so mediocre for so long you put your hopes on sleepers an to compare Geno to Luck and RG3. You just showed how much you know about football or anything for that matter. Geno is about as good as James Franklin. Potential Potential, give me guys who can play, not ones with potential. YOur research is ridiculous, you forgot to add that RG3 was an academic all american who grad in 3 years, also one of the Best Hurdlers in the world and there combine results were not even close. RG almost a 40inch vert, Geno 33. RG 40, 4.4 Geno, 4.59. round up or down if you please but that difference in a 40 may as well be a mile. Arent you tired of drafting Potential, High-ceiling guy? What about "Best Player Available'!!!! Find one article from any scout that says collectively this is a strong QB class and post it for all of us.

Most Scouts View

In a year where the draft's quarterback class is considered weak, there is one player who has risen up and separated himself from the pack. West Virginia's Geno Smith has scouts convinced he is the only quarterback worthy of a first-round selection.

It's hard to argue with that notion because signal-callers are overvalued and overdrafted year in and year out. However, I have a hard time believing any team would select Smith inside the top five. I get that he can make all the throws and has a strong arm, but what I don't understand are his long stretches of sub-par play.

To be considered a top-five pick, you have to make the players around you better. And with Smith, I just don't see that. The pass-heavy scheme at West Virginia and the talent around him helped him become ia top-notch prospect.

On draft day, he better hope he goes to a team who has a few offensive pieces in place. If the Jaguars or the Raiders rush to the podium and make the second team All-Big 12 selection their pick, Smith may be doomed from the get-go.

[BigCatDaddy]

By Illiteracy do you mean "ur" maybe you do to much spell check on a message board, or maybe you think i mean bored. Either way I am hoping you can guess the meaning. Maybe not though, Next time i will try to write at University level on a message board. What a freaking turd. As far as LT goes you sir need a lesson. This First round has 2 to 3 Franchise changers, guys who will anchor for 10 years or more. Not F'ing sleepers! Jesus you have been so mediocre for so long you put your hopes on sleepers an to compare Geno to Luck and RG3. You just showed how much you know about football or anything for that matter. Geno is about as good as James Franklin. Potential Potential, give me guys who can play, not ones with potential. YOur research is ridiculous, you forgot to add that RG3 was an academic all american who grad in 3 years, also one of the Best Hurdlers in the world and there combine results were not even close. RG almost a 40inch vert, Geno 33. RG 40, 4.4 Geno, 4.59. round up or down if you please but that difference in a 40 may as well be a mile. Arent you tired of drafting Potential, High-ceiling guy? What about "Best Player Available'!!!! Find one article from any scout that says collectively this is a strong QB class and post it for all of us.

Most Scouts View

In a year where the draft's quarterback class is considered weak, there is one player who has risen up and separated himself from the pack. West Virginia's Geno Smith has scouts convinced he is the only quarterback worthy of a first-round selection.

It's hard to argue with that notion because signal-callers are overvalued and overdrafted year in and year out. However, I have a hard time believing any team would select Smith inside the top five. I get that he can make all the throws and has a strong arm, but what I don't understand are his long stretches of sub-par play.

To be considered a top-five pick, you have to make the players around you better. And with Smith, I just don't see that. The pass-heavy scheme at West Virginia and the talent around him helped him become ia top-notch prospect.

On draft day, he better hope he goes to a team who has a few offensive pieces in place. If the Jaguars or the Raiders rush to the podium and make the second team All-Big 12 selection their pick, Smith may be doomed from the get-go.

Who gives a shit if it's a strong QB class? The point is there is one guy that is heads and shoulders above the rest coming out. Geno is a top 10 pick in about any year. Does he have a few worts? Sure, but so did guys like Rodgers, Ben, and Flacco or they wouldn't have slipped out of the top 10. You can get top 10 LT's in FA. You can get top 10 players at any position in FA every year, except QB. Which is why they are pushed higher in the draft and why it's worth a shot taking a guy that grades out the same as many franchise QB's in the league now coming out of college. With the new CBA even if Geno bust you aren't burying the franchise for 5 years. In the end it's a low risk high reward move to draft Geno. The QB is the difference maker and right now we've got a guy behind center that is a middle of the pack QB at best. We do have a top 10 LT however and 2 pretty damn good OLB's.

[patteeu]

Okay, I'll ignore the illiteracy in your post and go after substance.

Geno Smith is not Akili Smith. They are not even remotely alike in terms of play style, etc.

You are obviously parroting some idiot and haven't watched a single game of Geno's, because, if you did, you wouldn't be spouting such utter nonsense.

And it's not a subpar QB class. It's actually pretty deep with a lot of guys who could be potential high ceiling type of players. Lots of sleepers as well. And Geno's senior year was nearly identical to both Griffin's and Lucks from last season. And he posted combine numbers that were among the best you've seen from a high level quarterback prospect. You sir, are a moron.

Stop being stupid and do some research before spouting off a bunch of inane blather.

Tell me more, because from where I sit, they are at least remotely alike. Tell me about all their differences.

Also, if you had to compare him to a major bust from a previous draft, which bust would you say he most resembles?

[ayleswbj]

Who gives a shit if it's a strong QB class? The point is there is one guy that is heads and shoulders above the rest coming out. Geno is a top 10 pick in about any year. Does he have a few worts? Sure, but so did guys like Rodgers, Ben, and Flacco or they wouldn't have slipped out of the top 10. You can get top 10 LT's in FA. You can get top 10 players at any position in FA every year, except QB. Which is why they are pushed higher in the draft and why it's worth a shot taking a guy that grades out the same as many franchise QB's in the league now coming out of college. With the new CBA even if Geno bust you aren't burying the franchise for 5 years. In the end it's a low risk high reward move to draft Geno. The QB is the difference maker and right now we've got a guy behind center that is a middle of the pack QB at best. We do have a top 10 LT however and 2 pretty damn good OLB's.

Yes I know, I heard you, "hes the best of all the bad QB's in the draft. Just what we need. Of all the Weak QBs, he is the best one of them. I cant believe i am hearing this. I guess we will just let the draft run its course and see how history plays out.

[Coogs]

I stick with my opinion on building from the inside out.

Which is exactly what we have done. And now we are missing the one key piece... QB.

[ChiefRocka]

Why don't you watch the actual game, moron. JFC.

Who is this ponderception guy?

[BossChief]

Tell me more, because from where I sit, they are at least remotely alike. Tell me about all their differences.

Also, if you had to compare him to a major bust from a previous draft, which bust would you say he most resembles?

That's just ignorant.

Tell me how Geno compares to Akili...Akili was a 55% passer in college.

I'll give you the first comparison to get you started.

1) they are both black.
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[BigCatDaddy]

Yes I know, I heard you, "hes the best of all the bad QB's in the draft. Just what we need. Of all the Weak QBs, he is the best one of them. I cant believe i am hearing this. I guess we will just let the draft run its course and see how history plays out.

You're only hearing shit you are making up in your own head because nobody has ever said Geno is a bad QB. Every evaluation I've seen had Geno above a 90.

[patteeu]

That's just ignorant.

Tell me how Geno compares to Akili...Akili was a 55% passer in college.

I'll give you the first comparison to get you started.

1) they are both black.
2)
3)
4)
5)
6)

Their only difference was completion percentage?

Is it true that one of them was primarily a throwing QB and the other was primarily a running QB?

Did one of them take the overwhelming majority of snaps from under center and the other from the shotgun?

Was one of them a big, strong guy while the other one was short and slight?

One was athletic, the other was a statue?

And do you have an answer for my previous question?

Also, if you had to compare him to a major bust from a previous draft, which bust would you say he most resembles?

[BigCatDaddy]

It's okay I didn't expect you to know a thing about Fales at all. LMAO

There is no way to know at this point. RG3 wasn't even in the picture the year before he came out and Barkley was a top 10 pick next year. A lot can change.

[Sorter]

Who is this ponderception guy?

No idea.

[patteeu]

Who is this ponderception guy?

No idea.

I wish you guys would sorter this out.

[BigCatDaddy]

Their only difference was completion percentage?

Is it true that one of them was primarily a throwing QB and the other was primarily a running QB?

Did one of them take the overwhelming majority of snaps from under center and the other from the shotgun?

Was one of them a big, strong guy while the other one was short and slight?

One was athletic, the other was a statue?

And do you have an answer for my previous question?

I've said this before, but if you want to pick a bust Tim Couch is a good comparison.

[RealSNR]

It's okay I didn't expect you to know a thing about Fales at all. LMAO

Y'mean like I didn't know a thing about Tyler Wilson, either?

These first round grades tabbed on meh players like Fales are never accurate and shouldn't be trusted in the slightest until people have seen them play the final season in college. And that goes ESPECIALLY for a guy who plays for a small(ish) school.

I've seen Fales play one or two games. He might be good. He might not. I have serious doubts that he'll be as good of a pro prospect as Geno. VERY serious doubts. We'll see.

Is that good enough for you?

[patteeu]

I've said this before, but if you want to pick a bust Tim Couch is a good comparison.

That's a good comparison for offensive scheme, completion percentage, number of attempts and years as a starter. But Geno Smith was closer to Akili Smith in terms of his senior season rushing stats, and INTs. Geno is the middle ground between Couch and Akili when it comes to stuff like QB rating and YPA. All three of them are listed at virtually the same weight, but Geno is the shortest with Akili being closer in height than Tim Couch who was the tallest. Geno is the fastest, with Akili having a 40 time that was about .1 slower. Couch is considerably slower than Akili.

All-in-all, it seems like Couch is probably a better comparison, but it's not perfect. And unlike what Saccapoo and BossChief suggest, Geno Smith isn't completely dissimilar to Akili Smith.

[Sanka]

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[B14ckmon]

Who is this ponderception guy?

That fat third world kid who obsesses over vloggers.

I think his name is Sorter? Or Manuel?