ghosts

[Thig Lyfe]

are they real

[cosmo20002]

Real scary, yes

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

fuck yes they're real !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Dave Lane]

No they are not.

Spent part of the nite in a grave yard this week and no ghosts at all the bastards.

[In58men]

3 men and a ghost

[Thig Lyfe]

one time i found a ghost in my sonic cherry limeade

[Donger]

Yes. I met my paternal grandfather at the top of our stairs in 1975. He died in 1953.

[MTG#10]

Yes they do. Proof:

http://www.ghoststudy.com/monthly/feb01/3men.jpg

[Thig Lyfe]

Yes. I met my paternal grandfather at the top of our stairs in 1975. He died in 1953.

how did you know he was your grandpa with the sheet on???

[Thig Lyfe]

Yes they do. Proof:

http://www.ghoststudy.com/monthly/feb01/3men.jpg

WHOA

[Donger]

how did you know he was your grandpa with the sheet on???

He wasn't wearing a sheet. And I didn't realize that he was my grandfather until many years later.

[Donger]

WHOA

That's a standee of Ted Danson.

[Thig Lyfe]

He wasn't wearing a sheet. And I didn't realize that he was my grandfather until many years later.

how was he a ghost if he wasn't wearing standard issue ghost attire? now i'm veerrrry skeptical

[Thig Lyfe]

That's a standee of Ted Danson.

WHOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[Iowanian]

No they are not.

Spent part of the nite in a grave yard this week and no ghosts at all the bastards.


I guess that explains your claims of a successful sex life. They're too dead to fight back.

[Rasputin]

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[Donger]

how was he a ghost if he wasn't wearing standard issue ghost attire? now i'm veerrrry skeptical

The fact that he'd been dead for 20 years.

[Dave Lane]

Yes. I met my paternal grandfather at the top of our stairs in 1975. He died in 1953.

Love that British dry humor. Glad its humor, lest I be forced to call into question whether your sanity is up to snuff.

[Thig Lyfe]

The fact that he'd been dead for 20 years.

did he flaunt social norms in life as much as he did in death???

[Dave Lane]

I guess that explains your claims of a successful sex life. They're too dead to fight back.

Hey wait a sec....

[LoneWolf]

Thousands of people looking for ghosts daily and not one documented and confirmed sighting with visual proof. Ghosts=Bigfoot.

[Donger]

Love that British dry humor. Glad its humor, lest I be forced to call into question whether your sanity is up to snuff.

I'm not kidding, actually.

[Thig Lyfe]

Thousands of people looking for ghosts daily and not one documented and confirmed sighting with visual proof. Ghosts=Bigfoot.

is bigfoot real

[MTG#10]

That's a standee of Ted Danson.Bullshit. Its a ghost asshole.

[Iowanian]

Hey wait a sec....

Maybe I misunderstood and you're Chaz....

https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQo2-ksDuwGg3xu8VQg5MVSj_V3duLmWYCZtQKNND9GksJKpUniYQ

[Rasputin]

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[LoneWolf]

Bullshit. Its a ghost asshole.

Do ghosts have assholes? If I woke up and had ghost shit in my toilet, how would I know?

[Donger]

Bullshit. Its a ghost asshole.

Yes.

http://www.snopes.com/movies/graphics/danson.jpg

[Iowanian]

There are several stories that have been shared here over the years by tenured members who believe it to be true.

[LoneWolf]

<a href="http://photobucket.com/images/ghost%20gif" target="_blank"><img src="http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h225/rastekkel/GIF%20Pictures/260vejr_th.gif" border="0" alt="ghost gif photo: GHOST GIF 260vejr_th.gif"/></a>

I stand corrected. Don't I feel like a ghost asshole!

[Donger]

There are several stories that have been shared here over the years by tenured members who believe it to be true.

Stull, KS

[Simply Red]

**** yes they're real !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

this.

[Simply Red]

Stull, KS

THURSDAY, AUGUST 30, 2012

Lobb Cemetery
This evening a few friends and I visited Lobb Cemetery of Blue Springs, MO on somewhat of a whim after encountering an entry concerning it over at ForgottenUSA.

A little snippet of history (taken from here )

"Lobb Cemetery is one of the oldest cemeteries in Jackson County with

the first burial made on 6 January 1844. The internment was of John P.
CROW, 5 years old, who was the son of Jacob and Agnessa CROW. The old
story goes that the family had recently arrived from what is now Boyle
County, Kentucky near Danville, and had not as yet acquired land to
settle on. They were camped close to their friend Aquilla LOBB, whose
pioneer homesite was only a short distance to the northwest of the
present cemetery. Jacob and Agnessa went for a short visit to the
LOBBS leaving young John asleep. Near John was a kettle of hog fat on
the fire being rendered into lard. Hearing screams they rushed back to
find little John scalded by the hot grease from the overturned kettle.
He only lived for a short time."

Apparently there have been sightings of a little boy's ghost roaming the cemetery, which seems fairly reasonable considering the above story.

I would say that from what we encountered tonight it felt like the surrounding woods more so then even the cemetery were the true bearers of unsettled energy. We heard the steady thumping of something like a drum and a voice that could best be described as robotic, both coming from the depths of the forest. Also, my sister swore she heard the whole of the woods breathe.

[Rasputin]

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[J Diddy]

Do ghosts have assholes? If I woke up and had ghost shit in my toilet, how would I know?
the cat would be pregnant as well

[Thig Lyfe]

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IS THIS A REAL VID????

[KC native]

did he flaunt social norms in life as much as he did in death???

ROFL

[listopencil]

I've observed things that can't really be explained by my current understanding of physical laws.

[mlyonsd]

Yes. I met my paternal grandfather at the top of our stairs in 1975. He died in 1953.
Did he reach into his pocket and give you a butterscotch?

[DaFace]

Nope.

[hometeam]

Short answer to this question.

No.

[Thig Lyfe]

Short answer to this question.

No.

if robots exist why cant ghosts

[Brock]

Nope it was just old caretaker jones and he would have gotten away with it if it werent for those meddling kids.

[Rasputin]

IS THIS A REAL VID????

Scary huh!

[Thig Lyfe]

Scary huh!

it's all the got-dam proof i need!!!

[Iowanian]

Nope it was just old caretaker jones and he would have gotten away with it if it werent for those meddling kids.


He owes me for some broken windows.

[Lumpy]

I believe in ghost assholes.

[Otter]

I believe in ghost assholes. Gross. Do they pucker when they see you?

[In58men]

I won't believe one unless I see one myself.


26 years I haven't believed in ghosts

[J Diddy]

Did he reach into his pocket and give you a butterscotch?

Nope he said reach in my pocket little boy and get a butterscotch. heehhehehe

[Thig Lyfe]

I won't believe one unless I see one myself.


26 years I haven't believed in ghosts

put a hot dog under a ghost-resistant box and you'll catch yourself one overnight

[Red Beans]

As real as your terrible threads, so yes.

[Jerm]

Absolutely 100% real...

Anyone who isn't a believer...please spend one night in a place like the Villisca Axe Murder House, the Sallie House, Missouri State Pen, or hell even the Savoy Hotel and then come back and tell me they aren't real.

Spirits and ghosts are one of those things you have to experience it to believe...I understand why there's skeptics.

[Lumpy]

Gross. Do they pucker when they see you?

:hmmm: I've never noticed if they do or not.

Hold on...

Edit: Yes. Yes, they do.

Edit (again): Disregard. Neighbor's poodle... not a ghost.

I've seen them before, btw. Ghosts, I mean, not puckered poodle sphincters.

[Dave Lane]

I guess that explains your claims of a successful sex life. They're too dead to fight back.

I did get a blow job in a graveyard not long ago.

[KcMizzou]

if robots exist why cant ghostsExactly, its same way magnets work. Magic, bitch.

[Thig Lyfe]

Exactly, its same way magnets work. Magic, bitch.

magnets are ghost sandwiches

[Simply Red]

LJS.gif x10

[Bambi]

Yes they do. Proof:

http://www.ghoststudy.com/monthly/feb01/3men.jpg

I shoulda never watched this movie in HD. Talk about an urban legend let down...

[Thig Lyfe]

I shoulda never watched this movie in HD. Talk about an urban legend let down...

3 MEN AND A BABY ON BLU-RAY BAYBEEEEEEEEEEEE

[KcMizzou]

3 MEN AND A BABY ON BLU-RAY BAYBEEEEEEEEEEEELMAO

[KC native]

scooby doo tauwt me taht gohstssss R not real.

[stevieray]

duh. booberry cereal?

[beach tribe]

Yes. I met my paternal grandfather at the top of our stairs in 1975. He died in 1953.

Is this really true? I believe in a lot of shit but have lost my faith in the existence of ghosts even though my parents both swear on the fact that my neighbors wifes ghost was sitting at our table in her night gown while our neighbor was using my dads van to dump her body.
The reason why I have lost faith in ghosts and poltergeists is all due to video camera age. The only thing you cannot find one legitimate video of is something supernatural. Ive looked.

[Rasputin]

Does every chick in America have to use "ditto" as like the special ours between us after saying the words "I love You" ?

I love you dear


Ditto



WTF every single girl uses that nothing special about that. Does every girl get possessed because they watch the movie Ghost?

[beach tribe]

Absolutely 100% real...

Anyone who isn't a believer...please spend one night in a place like the Villisca Axe Murder House, the Sallie House, Missouri State Pen, or hell even the Savoy Hotel and then come back and tell me they aren't real.

Spirits and ghosts are one of those things you have to experience it to believe...I understand why there's skeptics.


So youve been to all those places and seen ghosts there? What did you see exactly?
I would LOVE to go there. And as much as I would like to see something i would bet 1000 bucks I stay all night and have a boring story to tell the next morning.

[Thig Lyfe]

Does every chick in America have to use "ditto" as like the special ours between us after saying the words "I love You" ?

I love you dear


Ditto



WTF every single girl uses that nothing special about that. Does every girl get possessed because they watch the movie Ghost?

ugh that movie perpetuates the stereotype that ghosts are good at pottery

[lewdog]

I have never had any out of body experiences or seen any ghosts.

I did once smoke/eat a ton of weed and was convinced my face was melting off. Does that count?

[beach tribe]

THURSDAY, AUGUST 30, 2012

Lobb Cemetery
This evening a few friends and I visited Lobb Cemetery of Blue Springs, MO on somewhat of a whim after encountering an entry concerning it over at ForgottenUSA.

A little snippet of history (taken from here )

"Lobb Cemetery is one of the oldest cemeteries in Jackson County with

the first burial made on 6 January 1844. The internment was of John P.
CROW, 5 years old, who was the son of Jacob and Agnessa CROW. The old
story goes that the family had recently arrived from what is now Boyle
County, Kentucky near Danville, and had not as yet acquired land to
settle on. They were camped close to their friend Aquilla LOBB, whose
pioneer homesite was only a short distance to the northwest of the
present cemetery. Jacob and Agnessa went for a short visit to the
LOBBS leaving young John asleep. Near John was a kettle of hog fat on
the fire being rendered into lard. Hearing screams they rushed back to
find little John scalded by the hot grease from the overturned kettle.
He only lived for a short time."

Apparently there have been sightings of a little boy's ghost roaming the cemetery, which seems fairly reasonable considering the above story.

I would say that from what we encountered tonight it felt like the surrounding woods more so then even the cemetery were the true bearers of unsettled energy. We heard the steady thumping of something like a drum and a voice that could best be described as robotic, both coming from the depths of the forest. Also, my sister swore she heard the whole of the woods breathe.

So, in other words, you didnt see shit, and youre imagination ran wild.
That type of fun is why I set out to prove to people that ghosts were real, and pretty much came to the opposite conclusion.

[Tribal Warfare]

are they real


Only if they are Aliens

[beach tribe]

I have never had any out of body experiences or seen any ghosts.

I did once smoke/eat a ton of weed and was convinced my face was melting off. Does that count?

I smoked some DMT and went to the spirit world for real MFer. True story.
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[Simply Red]

So, in other words, you didnt see shit, and youre imagination ran wild.
That type of fun is why I set out to prove to people that ghosts were real, and pretty much came to the opposite conclusion.

that wasn't I sir - but yes - that place is VERY scary looking - I'd go by and look at it if i lived there still - i very faintly remember seeing it when I went to James Lewis Elementary.

[Chiefs=Champions]

This thread has been a let down :(

[beach tribe]

that wasn't I sir - but yes - that place is VERY scary looking - I'd go by and look at it if i lived there still - i very faintly remember seeing it when I went to James Lewis Elementary.

I know it wasnt you. I was kind of responding to the author of it. I call BS.

[KC native]

This thread has been a let down :(

you should go in your bath room, turn off the lights, and say bloody mary 3X.

[beach tribe]

This thread has been a let down :(

The hunt for true supernatural shit always is, Sadly. I want so badly to believe what friends and family members have told me, but I think they just WANT to believe too.

[stevieray]

This thread has been a let down :(

who ya gonna call?

[Chiefs=Champions]

you should go in your bath room, turn off the lights, and say bloody mary 3X.

It was delicious.

[Chiefs=Champions]

The hunt for true supernatural shit always is, Sadly. I want so badly to believe what friends and family members have told me, but I think they just WANT to believe too.

Heh. i was just looking for a couple of good stories. but alas..

[Jerm]

So youve been to all those places and seen ghosts there? What did you see exactly?
I would LOVE to go there. And as much as I would like to see something i would bet 1000 bucks I stay all night and have a boring story to tell the next morning.

Yes I've been to all three and I've seen shadow people at both the Sallie House and MO State Pen...collected great evidence at all three though.

You probably couldn't pay me enough to go back in the Sallie House lol...one of the scariest places I've been, in the top 3 for sure. Had some very uneasy experiences in that place...

[Chiefs=Champions]

Yes I've been to all three and I've seen shadow people at both the Sallie House and MO State Pen...collected great evidence at all three though.

You probably couldn't pay me enough to go back in the Sallie House lol...one of the scariest places I've been, in the top 3 for sure. Had some very uneasy experiences in that place...

tell us more?

[Jerm]

tell us more?

Well the Sallie House had this ridiculous amplified negative energy the second you stepped in...in fact at one point or another 3 of our team became sick to their stomachs or drained of energy to the point they had to leave the house for a period of time.

We believe we came into contact with at least 2 and more than likely 3 malevolent entities...

Me personally I was touched on the back of my head, had my name spoken and some very nasty things directed towards me on the spirit box...witnessed a shadow figure in the master bedroom.

We had a team member shoved and a couple of them had something attach to them once they left.

It was one of very first investigations...we're trying to get back in this summer.

Crazy, scary night....

[Shogun]

http://i.imgur.com/wlZUt.jpg

[Simply Red]

I know it wasnt you. I was kind of responding to the author of it. I call BS.

I wish I could find a photo of it - the buried go back two hundred yrs, IIRC. I may study it and turn in a Wiki for that place.

[KCrockaholic]

I wouldn't say no.

[Dayze]

Rumor is people working at Arrowhead have experienced the ghost of ghosty mcquarterback

[LoneWolf]

Stay safe poverty ghost.

[beach tribe]

Well the Sallie House had this ridiculous amplified negative energy the second you stepped in...in fact at one point or another 3 of our team became sick to their stomachs or drained of energy to the point they had to leave the house for a period of time.

We believe we came into contact with at least 2 and more than likely 3 malevolent entities...

Me personally I was touched on the back of my head, had my name spoken and some very nasty things directed towards me on the spirit box...witnessed a shadow figure in the master bedroom.

We had a team member shoved and a couple of them had something attach to them once they left.

It was one of very first investigations...we're trying to get back in this summer.

Crazy, scary night....
I want to believe you. I REALLY do.
But you sound like you are straight out of ghost hunters, and that show is 100% BS.
I have actually FELT things MANY times. Known something was there. No doubt in my mind.
But as far as physical manipulation or manifestation...I dont buy it....At All.

[TimeForWasp]

Do ghosts have assholes? If I woke up and had ghost shit in my toilet, how would I know?


Sometimes that's all you can see, is the assholes.

[Jerm]

I want to believe you. I REALLY do.
But you sound like you are straight out of ghost hunters, and that show is 100% BS.
I have actually FELT things MANY times. Known something was there. No doubt in my mind.
But as far as physical manipulation or manifestation...I dont buy it....At All.

Hey I'm not offended at all...I'd be skeptical too if I had not experienced what I have.

The beautiful thing is that I don't really care what others think or when I'm doubted...I know what I've seen, heard, and felt and that's all that matters. Not trying to sound like a prick, just the truth.

It's all good.

[bevischief]

are they real

I am not going to talk to you about anything paranormal.

[Rasputin]

Stay safe poverty ghost.








I'm not taking any chances.

[Fish]

Well the Sallie House had this ridiculous amplified negative energy the second you stepped in...in fact at one point or another 3 of our team became sick to their stomachs or drained of energy to the point they had to leave the house for a period of time.

We believe we came into contact with at least 2 and more than likely 3 malevolent entities...

Me personally I was touched on the back of my head, had my name spoken and some very nasty things directed towards me on the spirit box...witnessed a shadow figure in the master bedroom.

We had a team member shoved and a couple of them had something attach to them once they left.

It was one of very first investigations...we're trying to get back in this summer.

Crazy, scary night....

Attached to them? Like a ghostly strap-on?

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Yup. The bitches ate my Long John Silver's combo meal too.

[frankotank]

Many many years ago….we smoked some bowls….we drank some beers….and we decided to head to the Leeton glowing tombstone. Got there around midnight. Parked a few blocks away and climbed the gate into the cemetery. Went looking for the glowing tombstone. The night is black without a moon….the air is thick and still…whoops! Went a little Rush there for a second. It was a very very dark night. And then it happened! The Leeton police pulled right up to the locked gate of the cemetery. We all hit the ground. We waited and waited but that sumbitch just wouldn’t leave. Figuring he knew we were in there, someone made the decision to bolt…..right across the driveway, through the cops headlights and out of sight. Like lemmings, we all followed. I was second to last and I was quick as a cat! I blasted across the driveway in the blink of an eye and as I was running full speed into the darkness I remember thinking…..”I can’t see shit! I should probably slow down.” And that’s when I hit the barbed wire fence at full speed.

That shit’ll stop ya on a dime! My right arm slammed through the rows of barbed wire at the top of the fence and I had just enough time to pull it back out when the girl behind me, my future wife, ran headlong into me and bounced me back into the barbed wire fence. This time my right shoulder slammed into the rows of barbed wire. We bounced off, climbed the fence, and ran into the cow pasture and squatted down with the cows until the cop left. We watched him roll out of site and then took off full speed back to the car. It was at this point, again running full speed in total darkness, that I ran into a very wicked crotch high sticker bush and I’m all….FFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUCK!

We get back to the car and I’m pretty damn torn up man! I’m bleeding all over the damn place. We got the hell out of there. By the time I got home my jeans were just soaked with blood. As I sit here 30 years later writing this, I can clearly see several scars, pretty bad ones. War wounds. Probably should’ve had a few of these stitched up. Didn’t SEEM so bad at the time….but then again I was high yo!

The End.

PS –
1 - that ****ing tombstone didn’t glow.
2 - I didn’t see no damn ghosts.
3 - Barbed wire will **** you up man!
4 – the Leeton glowing tomb stone ain’t in this video.
5 – then the midgets….then the ****ing midgets!


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[Pasta Little Brioni]

Getting humped by a midget ghost is not a very pleasant experience

[BlackHelicopters]

Midget ghosts? This sounds fake.

[Dave Lane]

If people knew the calls of frogs we wouldn't have knuckleheads making stupid claims. How is it "Old" cemetery's are any more likely to contain a spirit. The Cemetery I was in was the oldest in Linn county with first burial in 1857 of an 11 year old girl. Big whoop.

Took pictures all night at 15 sec intervals and nothing!

The interesting thing is the claim that spirits exist where the person died. If this were true then ghosts have to have measurable mass. Otherwise the location of your loved ones death is already millions of miles away in space. If they do have mass and so could be effected by gravity then they should be measurable.

Much like the UFO, Bigfoot and religious folk, nothing logical or rational is going to shake them of their faith.

THURSDAY, AUGUST 30, 2012

Lobb Cemetery
This evening a few friends and I visited Lobb Cemetery of Blue Springs, MO on somewhat of a whim after encountering an entry concerning it over at ForgottenUSA.

A little snippet of history (taken from here )

"Lobb Cemetery is one of the oldest cemeteries in Jackson County with

the first burial made on 6 January 1844. The internment was of John P.
CROW, 5 years old, who was the son of Jacob and Agnessa CROW. The old
story goes that the family had recently arrived from what is now Boyle
County, Kentucky near Danville, and had not as yet acquired land to
settle on. They were camped close to their friend Aquilla LOBB, whose
pioneer homesite was only a short distance to the northwest of the
present cemetery. Jacob and Agnessa went for a short visit to the
LOBBS leaving young John asleep. Near John was a kettle of hog fat on
the fire being rendered into lard. Hearing screams they rushed back to
find little John scalded by the hot grease from the overturned kettle.
He only lived for a short time."

Apparently there have been sightings of a little boy's ghost roaming the cemetery, which seems fairly reasonable considering the above story.

I would say that from what we encountered tonight it felt like the surrounding woods more so then even the cemetery were the true bearers of unsettled energy. We heard the steady thumping of something like a drum and a voice that could best be described as robotic, both coming from the depths of the forest. Also, my sister swore she heard the whole of the woods breathe.

[Dave Lane]

I want to believe you. I REALLY do.
But you sound like you are straight out of ghost hunters, and that show is 100% BS.
I have actually FELT things MANY times. Known something was there. No doubt in my mind.
But as far as physical manipulation or manifestation...I dont buy it....At All.

There are some really interesting books on the foibles of the human mind and its ability to misinterpret data it is receiving. Not hard to understand what people believe they see when they are scared and don't understand night noises / lights.

[Dave Lane]

Here's an all night timelapse in a old old graveyard in Linn county. Look for ghosts!

Its still uploading so maybe a few minutes before its ready.

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[Fairplay]

I guess that explains your claims of a successful sex life. They're too dead to fight back.

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[frankotank]

If people knew the calls of frogs we wouldn't have knuckleheads making stupid claims. How is it "Old" cemetery's are any more likely to contain a spirit. The Cemetery I was in was the oldest in Linn county with first burial in 1857 of an 11 year old girl. Big whoop.

Took pictures all night at 15 sec intervals and nothing!

The interesting thing is the claim that spirits exist where the person died. If this were true then ghosts have to have measurable mass. Otherwise the location of your loved ones death is already millions of miles away in space. If they do have mass and so could be effected by gravity then they should be measurable.

Much like the UFO, Bigfoot and religious folk, nothing logical or rational is going to shake them of their faith.

many Christians believe in ghosts. how can you believe there is an afterlife, yet also believe that said afterlife may consist of hanging around a graveyard!? hmm. maybe the departed kinda sucked and it's payback.

and if it IS payback, then why why why would there EVER be a child ghost? the most pure and innocent beings on this planet are children. so when I see a movie or something with an evil ghostly child in it I'm like come ON! what's this kids motivation to be evil? in life he was just an innocent child. it's just dumb. what purpose would a ghost child serve? besides, if anyone is going to heaven, it's a CHILD, so....that kid ain't gonna be creeping outta your closet and crap...cause he in HEB'N!

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[buddha]

People who have experienced them know they are real. Those who haven't usually don't believe.

[MTG#10]

Do ghosts have assholes? If I woke up and had ghost shit in my toilet, how would I know?I have ghost shit all the time. Its when you sit on the toilet, feel the shit come out, hear it splash, but when you look in the toilet there's nothing there. Creepy as hell.

[boogblaster]

seen heard been told . so yea they're real .....

[InChiefsHeaven]

Is this really true? I believe in a lot of shit but have lost my faith in the existence of ghosts even though my parents both swear on the fact that my neighbors wifes ghost was sitting at our table in her night gown while our neighbor was using my dads van to dump her body.
The reason why I have lost faith in ghosts and poltergeists is all due to video camera age. The only thing you cannot find one legitimate video of is something supernatural. Ive looked.

I don't know if I believe in ghosts or not, but this post...I don't believe in it...

[Pitt Gorilla]

I did see the ghost light south of Joplin. It wasn't a ghost, but it was cool.

[InChiefsHeaven]

many Christians believe in ghosts. how can you believe there is an afterlife, yet also believe that said afterlife may consist of hanging around a graveyard!? hmm. maybe the departed kinda sucked and it's payback.

and if it IS payback, then why why why would there EVER be a child ghost? the most pure and innocent beings on this planet are children. so when I see a movie or something with an evil ghostly child in it I'm like come ON! what's this kids motivation to be evil? in life he was just an innocent child. it's just dumb. what purpose would a ghost child serve? besides, if anyone is going to heaven, it's a CHILD, so....that kid ain't gonna be creeping outta your closet and crap...cause he in HEB'N!

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR7fiL1LUQ-RYH3MNlyIEEKDIbQDRgk67kGmzHcwsX6ZUia-7MFqQ
I for one do not believe that a kid ghost is actually the kid. I think it's more than likely some demonic image of the kid...screwing with the living.

[frankotank]

I for one do not believe that a kid ghost is actually the kid. I think it's more than likely some demonic image of the kid...screwing with the living.

yeah I'm totally with that! if there really is a ghost....anywhere...adult or kid...I don't think it's human.

I'll go ya one further....we've all read/heard of the feel good stories....one of my favorites....the little old ladys husband dies. she's destitute. he appears and points her to a death certificate hidden somewhere. the day is saved.

IF something like that really happened...and there's a shit ton of feel good stories like this.....I personally don't believe that the apparition was REALLY her husband, rather an angel sent in the guise of her husband. just my opinion. however, if God were to decided to allow hubby to make a quick visit....he's God man...he can do whatever he wants.

[LiveSteam]

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!












































Scared you all didnt I

[InChiefsHeaven]

yeah I'm totally with that! if there really is a ghost....anywhere...adult or kid...I don't think it's human.

I'll go ya one further....we've all read/heard of the feel good stories....one of my favorites....the little old ladys husband dies. she's destitute. he appears and points her to a death certificate hidden somewhere. the day is saved.

IF something like that really happened...and there's a shit ton of feel good stories like this.....I personally don't believe that the apparition was REALLY her husband, rather an angel sent in the guise of her husband. just my opinion. however, if God were to decided to allow hubby to make a quick visit....he's God man...he can do whatever he wants.

My daughter swears she saw my mother in the delivery room when she was in labor with my grandson. It was a quick glimpse, but she said she was standing in the background smiling reassuringly. I don't know what she saw, but it made her feel great. If God sends us images that we can understand to comfort us, it makes sense to me.

[InChiefsHeaven]

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!











































Scared you all didnt I

CRAP!! Geez man, don't DO that!!

[crossbow]

Does every chick in America have to use "ditto" as like the special ours between us after saying the words "I love You" ?

I love you dear


Ditto



WTF every single girl uses that nothing special about that. Does every girl get possessed because they watch the movie Ghost?

Ditto that, man.

[bevischief]

..

[Great Expectations]

I did see the ghost light south of Joplin. It wasn't a ghost, but it was cool.

http://www.legendsofamerica.com/mo-spooklight.html

The most believed explanation of the spook light is that it comes from car headlights off of I-44. Of course that doesn't explain the documents from 1881 trying to figure it out.

[lcarus]

I can't believe people watch that Ghost Hunters shit and think it's real. Blows my mind. Shit's faker than pro wrestling

[bevischief]

I can't believe people watch that Ghost Hunters shit and think it's real. Blows my mind. Shit's faker than pro wrestling

Tried watching once and changed the channel after about 3 minutes of watching it.

[LiveSteam]

Never seen. But have been around when weird un-explainable shit happens.
Bugs house & a friends mothers old house in Leavenworth Kan would be the two places.
I wont crash in Bugs house. IMO Things you cant see, watch you there.

[Fish]

People who have experienced them know they are real. Those who haven't usually don't believe.

They say the same thing regarding just about anything supernatural. Bigfoot, UFOs, fairies, angels, the Loch Ness monster, lizard people, sock gremlins, etc. You just won't believe it until you see it. But the human brain is really really terrible in regards to the accuracy of what people see. Eye witness accounts are the least reliable source possible. That's why we always have reports of people seeing Jesus in slices of toast, or in clouds, or the moisture on pavement. The brain is wired to see and quickly recognize the shapes of faces and human figures. It's an evolutionary defense mechanism for survival. That's why we mistakenly see faces and shit in normal everyday stuff like toast.

People convince themselves that all sorts of silly shit is real. But yet we have absolutely zero credible evidence, despite the constant ongoing search for them. Cameras all over the world are recording right now, hoping to catch a spirit on tape. But yet nothing except stories of people getting scared in the dark, and attributing it to whatever supernatural buzzword that fancies them. Meh... show us some proof...

[beach tribe]

I got repped in this thread and it brought my rep to 666.
Can someone plz neg me or something?

[frankotank]

I can't believe people watch that Ghost Hunters shit and think it's real. Blows my mind. Shit's faker than pro wrestling

http://img844.imageshack.us/img844/3703/midgetclownsonofab.jpg

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[frankotank]

I got repped in this thread and it brought my rep to 666.
Can someone plz neg me or something?

ROFL

[Thig Lyfe]

Yup. The bitches ate my Long John Silver's combo meal too.

THE HORROR!!!

[Pitt Gorilla]

http://www.legendsofamerica.com/mo-spooklight.html

The most believed explanation of the spook light is that it comes from car headlights off of I-44. Of course that doesn't explain the documents from 1881 trying to figure it out.it clearly wasn't car lights.

[Thig Lyfe]

I am not going to talk to you about anything paranormal.

not even vampires?!??

[Thig Lyfe]

Rumor is people working at Arrowhead have experienced the ghost of ghosty mcquarterback

can jovan belcher's ghost play QB???

[BlackHelicopters]

can jovan belcher's ghost play QB???

Can't be any worse than QB play we have been receiving.

[Carlota69]

Yes. Absolutely, yes.

I have lived in 2 haunted house in my life. One when I was 5, and I of course dont remember anything, but I remember my mom moving us out in a quick hurry, and have since heard all the stories of what went on there.

Then I lived in another house haunted by over 13 spirits when I was 23-24 years old. I had 3 roomates in that house, one was incredibly skeptical, until some serious shit went down. She is forever a believer because of our experience.

And as far as seeing them? No. Feeling their presence? Yes.

Plus they made shit move, filled sinks with water, light switches on and off, doors slamming etc, house was cold and you could always see your breath etc...

Since I moved out of that house, and still lived in the area, I always saw people moving in, and then a few months later, moving out. I visited the city recently, and again, saw people moving out. That house was ****ing crazy! if
When I buy or rent a place, If I feel anything remotely close to what I felt in that house (That look over your shoulder feeling), I'm out!!!

Its a campfire, Halloween story...

[BlackHelicopters]

Most ghosts have mastered the one yard dump off to DMC.

[InChiefsHeaven]

8 videos in this series...pretty compelling. If he's faking it...it's a pretty good fake.

http://www.youtube.com/user/MrChansuolme1/videos?flow=grid&view=0

[beach tribe]

ROFL

Are you laughing at my post or my rep power?:D

[loochy]

I got repped in this thread and it brought my rep to 666.
Can someone plz neg me or something?

done

[beach tribe]

done

LMAO
Im overwhelmed at the number of people willing to help out a fellow planeteer.

[Pepe Silvia]

Never seen one but I believe in them.

[Fansy the Famous Bard]

Never seen one myself, but my wife experienced something in our old house. She got up from bed about 11 PM, went to other side of house to get her purse out of the kitchen. Was standing at the counter getting her phone out of the purse when she heard a child's voice directly behind her "what are you doing?". It startled her and she turned around using her phone light to look for one of our young children even though she said it didn't sound like any of them.. She couldn't find anyone so quickly came back to the other side of the house where all the bedrooms were... Checked on the kids and said all were sound asleep. Came to bed and begged me to go clear the house cause she thought someone was in it... Never found anything. She swears to this day it was a ghost... I have no idea.

[frankotank]

Plus they made shit move


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[Raiderhater]

Never seen one myself, but my wife experienced something in our old house. She got up from bed about 11 PM, went to other side of house to get her purse out of the kitchen. Was standing at the counter getting her phone out of the purse when she heard a child's voice directly behind her "what are you doing?". It startled her and she turned around using her phone light to look for one of our young children even though she said it didn't sound like any of them.. She couldn't find anyone so quickly came back to the other side of the house where all the bedrooms were... Checked on the kids and said all were sound asleep. Came to bed and begged me to go clear the house cause she thought someone was in it... Never found anything. She swears to this day it was a ghost... I have no idea.


Go ahead, fess up, you were messing with her weren't you?

[mlyonsd]

My Grandma, very religious, honest, and respected in the community talked of growing up on a farm in Nebraska that was haunted.

The horses would periodically break out of the corral and gallop around and around the house, one specific rocking chair would rock all by itself, and late one night their cat ventured upstairs into the attic where they heard a screech followed by a loud thud. They ran upstairs and she claimed it was evident the cat was thrown against the attic wall where it laid there dead in a heap.

[Earthling]

Getting humped by a midget ghost is not a very pleasant experience

You are probably safe now. I got rid of that damned midget ghost costume months ago...

[stonedstooge]

I've lived in 2 different houses that were haunted. People that had lived in the houses prior also had experiences or refused to talk about it

[OrtonsPiercedTaint]

Orb just won the Kentucky Derby. I think we're ready for the truth now.

[Thig Lyfe]

I've lived in 2 different houses that were haunted. People that had lived in the houses prior also had experiences or refused to talk about it

Was it... G-G-G-GHOSTS!?!?

[Rasputin]

Was it... G-G-G-GHOSTS!?!?

ZOINKS!


:fear:

[frankotank]

Was it... G-G-G-GHOSTS!?!?

it was this dude. duh.

http://img840.imageshack.us/img840/7152/phantom20scooby20doo20u.jpg

[Kerberos]

are they real

Only if they are located in OLD meat packing plants.

[Ebolapox]

Absolutely 100% real...

Anyone who isn't a believer...please spend one night in a place like the Villisca Axe Murder House, the Sallie House, Missouri State Pen, or hell even the Savoy Hotel and then come back and tell me they aren't real.

Spirits and ghosts are one of those things you have to experience it to believe...I understand why there's skeptics.

eh, I've done the missouri state pen ghost tour/overnight thing. never saw a damned thing that couldn't be easily explained as a psychosomatic reaction to naturally creepy conditions.

[Thig Lyfe]

eh, I've done the missouri state pen ghost tour/overnight thing. never saw a damned thing that couldn't be easily explained as a psychosomatic reaction to naturally creepy conditions.

then how do explain all the creepy BOOOOOOO sounds?!?

[Fish]

eh, I've done the missouri state pen ghost tour/overnight thing. never saw a damned thing that couldn't be easily explained as a psychosomatic reaction to naturally creepy conditions.

I used to do quite a bit of the ghost hunting, overnight stuff. And always came away disappointed. Never saw, heard, or felt a damn thing that was unexplained. Even when told beforehand that I was guaranteed to have an "Experience"...

[Ebolapox]

I want to believe you. I REALLY do.
But you sound like you are straight out of ghost hunters, and that show is 100% BS.
I have actually FELT things MANY times. Known something was there. No doubt in my mind.
But as far as physical manipulation or manifestation...I dont buy it....At All.

I'm of the belief (both as a skeptical molecular geneticist and as a lay person) that there are things we don't understand. is it possible that the things that are seen/felt/heard are ACTUALLY supernatural? I doubt it. is it possible that they're manifestations of some sort of energy that we don't know of? sure, why not? remember, einstein tells us that all matter is energy. when you die, it's possible that some imprint of you is left behind in the form of energy. will we figure it out soon? who the hell knows?

but the idea that people believe what they want to believe and see what they want to see is absolutely true from an evolutionary standpoint... read Michael Shermer's 'The Believing Brain.' it goes into great depth on the supernatural, facial recognition, pattern recognition, etc. in other words, MANY things that are complete nonsense/coincidence get interpreted as 'spooky' because we, evolutionarily, recognize certain patterns for our survival as a species. cool stuff.

[Ebolapox]

They say the same thing regarding just about anything supernatural. Bigfoot, UFOs, fairies, angels, the Loch Ness monster, lizard people, sock gremlins, etc. You just won't believe it until you see it. But the human brain is really really terrible in regards to the accuracy of what people see. Eye witness accounts are the least reliable source possible. That's why we always have reports of people seeing Jesus in slices of toast, or in clouds, or the moisture on pavement. The brain is wired to see and quickly recognize the shapes of faces and human figures. It's an evolutionary defense mechanism for survival. That's why we mistakenly see faces and shit in normal everyday stuff like toast.

People convince themselves that all sorts of silly shit is real. But yet we have absolutely zero credible evidence, despite the constant ongoing search for them. Cameras all over the world are recording right now, hoping to catch a spirit on tape. But yet nothing except stories of people getting scared in the dark, and attributing it to whatever supernatural buzzword that fancies them. Meh... show us some proof...

here's the thing about proof of that sort of thing... do you know how difficult it is to get scientific funding these days? DAMNED hard, right next to impossible in some cases. we'll put it this way with regard to the supernatural:

the first legit proof of the supernatural, verifiable and peer-reviewed, would net the finder the following:

1) nobel prize/huge scientific cred of some sort (this is huge, believe it or not)
2) funding for LIFE

that it HASN'T happened, to me, is evidence that we either don't have the tech for it yet or that it just isn't there (I'll accept either as viable possibilities)

[Ebolapox]

My Grandma, very religious...

no offense at ALL to those who are religious--more power to you (just keep it to yourself, thank you very much), but they're just as prone as the rest of us are to believing some weird shit and being tricked by our brains.

[Ebolapox]

I used to do quite a bit of the ghost hunting, overnight stuff. And always came away disappointed. Never saw, heard, or felt a damn thing that was unexplained. Even when told beforehand that I was guaranteed to have an "Experience"...

I'm convinced that part of it is our natural reaction and expectations to the spooky. as previously mentioned, we're wired a certain way, to recognize certain patterns. the fact that we SEE them does NOT mean that it's spooky--it could very well be pure coincidence.

[B_Ambuehl]

I have some relatives that own a house that has some strange stuff that goes on occassionally. I had heard talk they could often hear people walking around upstairs when no one was there, but I brushed it off as nothing. One day I was there by myself in the dining room and vividly heard someone come in from the garage door and loudly walk up the stairs. I thought it must be my nephew as he gets out of school at 3 and it was 3:15. I got up to get something to drink and all the sudden my nephew comes in the garage door. I'm like, "didn't you come in just a few minutes ago??" He says, "No I just got here." I went upstairs to check and nothing was there. So who was that I heard coming in a few minutes earlier? No idea.

I stayed the night over there several times sleeping in an upstairs room. I always noticed this particular room seemed to stay extremely cold. In the winter the rest of the house would be warm and that room would be so cold I'd have to wear a jacket to sleep. One night I was sleeping there and was woken by something crushing my chest making it impossible to breathe. At first I thought my nephew had come in and was messing with me, but when I finally fought it off nothing was there. I am familiar with sleep paralysis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleep_paralysis) and mentally chalked it up as that. However, not 2 minutes later, when i'd just closed my eyes to go back to sleep, it happened AGAIN! It felt like something very very strong pinning my arms back against the bed and sitting on my chest. I couldn't breathe and couldn't move. I couldn't get it off. All the sudden i remembered reading something about how the word "god" is to evil spirits what garlic is to vampires. I said the word "god" and all the sudden whatever was there vanished. Pretty scary.

I never said anything to anyone about that episode because I didn't want to create paranoia and as far as I know nothing else like that has happened. The house was built in 2000 and they've lived there since 2005 so I doubt anyone died there or anything so not sure what is going on.

[Fish]

All the sudden i remembered reading something about how the word "god" is to evil spirits what garlic is to vampires.

If garlic works on vampires, then why not this?

[Fansy the Famous Bard]

Go ahead, fess up, you were messing with her weren't you?

LOL, can't take credit for it. I did tease her a bit after the fact, though.

[Radar Chief]

I'm convinced that part of it is our natural reaction and expectations to the spooky. as previously mentioned, we're wired a certain way, to recognize certain patterns. the fact that we SEE them does NOT mean that it's spooky--it could very well be pure coincidence.

I think I was about 8 when I saw the previous owner of my parent’s house, she died in the house after building it herself and raising her family in it.
I’d never seen a picture of the lady before so there’s no logical reason for my mind to go there, yet there she staring around a corner at me.
I know it was her because later on I met an old lady neighbor that knew the previous owner and showed me a picture of them together. I described what she was wearing and neighbor lady said that’s what she was buried in, which were also her favorite Sunday church clothes.
Other incidents that happened in that house, cold spots, doors opening and closing by themselves, sounds of someone walking around, can be put off to it being an old drafty house, but not seeing her myself. I can still vividly picture her some 38 years later.

[Ebolapox]

I think I was about 8 when I saw the previous owner of my parent’s house, she died in the house after building it herself and raising her family in it.
I’d never seen a picture of the lady before so there’s no logical reason for my mind to go there, yet there she staring around a corner at me.
I know it was her because later on I met an old lady neighbor that knew the previous owner and showed me a picture of them together. I described what she was wearing and neighbor lady said that’s what she was buried in, which were also her favorite Sunday church clothes.
Other incidents that happened in that house, cold spots, doors opening and closing by themselves, sounds of someone walking around, can be put off to it being an old drafty house, but not seeing her myself. I can still vividly picture her some 38 years later.

tell me... not to be an asshole, but was she buried in something a woman normally wouldn't wear? did she have a mohawk? you know, did she not fit the archetype of what a woman looks like? if so, I'll be impressed. otherwise, if she fits into the pattern of what women typically look like, it's very easy to attribute it to the normal pattern recognition that our brains are hardwired for.

is it possible you saw something? I can't rule anything out. but I'm inclined to use occam's razor for all situations like this... the simplest explanation is often the correct explanation; and the simplest explanation is that human minds are hardwired to recognize certain patterns and certain archetypes, and that we're not infallible (aka, memory isn't always precise).

[Radar Chief]

tell me... not to be an asshole, but was she buried in something a woman normally wouldn't wear? did she have a mohawk? you know, did she not fit the archetype of what a woman looks like? if so, I'll be impressed. otherwise, if she fits into the pattern of what women typically look like, it's very easy to attribute it to the normal pattern recognition that our brains are hardwired for.

It was a very old timey for when she died, which would have been about ’70-71, but besides what she was wearing I could see her face and it was definately what I saw in a picture some time later.

I’ve told the below story before so I’ll just copy and paste it from the My Ghost Story topic.

Ok, so the place I’m talking about is on their land, they own a good sized chunk of land just north of Grand Lake of the Cherokees. The back side of their land is actually her parent’s old land which she inherited and they as a couple have added too.
As we were walking around their land one day my cousin tells me a story I remember his mom telling my parents back when my cousin and I were just kids and it goes like this.
They were staying at her parent’s place one night when my cousin’s Teddy Ruxbin started going off. Just out of the blue started talking, going through its normal recorded routine and wouldn’t shut up waking up my cousin and his mom. He said his mom picked it up and flipped it over to look in the battery compartment, did a double take then flipped the thing back over and looked at it all the while this thing continues going off. She then walked outside with it and my cousin said he drifted back off to sleep only to wake up when she came back inside. When he asked where his Teddy Ruxbin was she said, “When I went to take the batteries out there were none so I started a fire and burned it.”

On a side note it’s always cracked me up that she killed it with fire.

[Backwards Masking]

i have three ghosts in stay in contact with via Ouija Board that follow me wherever I happen to move to

[OrtonsPiercedTaint]

I think it's something your mind has to be open to, some what(children). It's not a physical thing like an alien, bigfoot or a Chiefs' Lamar Hunt trophy.

[Thig Lyfe]

I think it's something your mind has to be open to, some what(children). It's not a physical thing like an alien, bigfoot or a Chiefs' Lamar Hunt trophy.

sometimes my wiener gets hard and i dont know how, is ghosts involved???

[Jerm]

I'm of the belief (both as a skeptical molecular geneticist and as a lay person) that there are things we don't understand. is it possible that the things that are seen/felt/heard are ACTUALLY supernatural? I doubt it. is it possible that they're manifestations of some sort of energy that we don't know of? sure, why not? remember, einstein tells us that all matter is energy. when you die, it's possible that some imprint of you is left behind in the form of energy. will we figure it out soon? who the hell knows?

but the idea that people believe what they want to believe and see what they want to see is absolutely true from an evolutionary standpoint... read Michael Shermer's 'The Believing Brain.' it goes into great depth on the supernatural, facial recognition, pattern recognition, etc. in other words, MANY things that are complete nonsense/coincidence get interpreted as 'spooky' because we, evolutionarily, recognize certain patterns for our survival as a species. cool stuff.

I actually came from a very skeptical background...it took a lot to convince me.

I don't come into any investigation with a predetermined mindset or notion...hell there's a lot of times we don't experience anything or get any evidence.

I understand the concepts you speak of and I'm sure that does happen a lot a but me personally, it doesn't apply...I'm open to the phenomena being paranormal or explainable, I go by the evidence.

[Lumpy]

sometimes my wiener gets hard and i dont know how, is ghosts involved???

This actually brings up an interesting point, (pun intended, heh). You could be sitting on the toilet, having happy fun time with your SO, having touchy time with yourself, etc. and ghosts see it all.

I'm not sure if they'll help you wipe your ass, give you a push or a hand though... but they're definitely watching.

Scary stuff.

[ThaVirus]

They were staying at her parent’s place one night when my cousin’s Teddy Ruxbin started going off. Just out of the blue started talking, going through its normal recorded routine and wouldn’t shut up waking up my cousin and his mom. He said his mom picked it up and flipped it over to look in the battery compartment, did a double take then flipped the thing back over and looked at it all the while this thing continues going off. She then walked outside with it and my cousin said he drifted back off to sleep only to wake up when she came back inside. When he asked where his Teddy Ruxbin was she said, “When I went to take the batteries out there were none so I started a fire and burned it.”

I saw that movie. It was called Child's Play.

[Jerm]

I think I was about 8 when I saw the previous owner of my parent’s house, she died in the house after building it herself and raising her family in it.
I’d never seen a picture of the lady before so there’s no logical reason for my mind to go there, yet there she staring around a corner at me.
I know it was her because later on I met an old lady neighbor that knew the previous owner and showed me a picture of them together. I described what she was wearing and neighbor lady said that’s what she was buried in, which were also her favorite Sunday church clothes.
Other incidents that happened in that house, cold spots, doors opening and closing by themselves, sounds of someone walking around, can be put off to it being an old drafty house, but not seeing her myself. I can still vividly picture her some 38 years later.

Had a similar experience on an investigation at a private residence once and it was one of the most chillings things I've been a part of in doing this....

We had a couple contact us because they had been experiencing some odd things and they said their 8 year old had talked about seeing a woman repeatedly...well we investigate and nothing particularly odd happpened. However the next day we spoke with the family again and had a guy in our group who's an excellent sketch artist pull the boy to the side along with the father just to ensure and validate no coercion took place from our end.

Well he comes back after a while with a pretty damn detailed drawing of a woman in an old style, early 1900s style dress. It was amazing to see the detail and ability to describe this kid gave us.

The mother about lost her shit because she swore it looked like an old relative she remembered in a picture but there were no old pictures in their residence.

I get a call the next day from said lady freaking the fuck out and hysterical wanting me to come over to her mothers house...she had something to show me. Sure enough at her moms was a picture of the woman's great grandmother and damn if the two weren't nearly identical sans the clothing (she was wearing something different in the photo). I instantly got goosebumps and started shaking...it rocked me because unless these two coached their kid on exactly what to describe step for step and were lying to us, which wouldn't make any sense, it was pretty compelling evidence. They didn't have any pictures like this in their home and both were adamant their son had never seen the mother's great grandma.

That freaked me out probably more than any other paranormal experience I've ever had.

[Bump]

my friend tries to tell me this elaborate story about a ghost. But I remember him telling me this story years ago and he just told it again a few weeks ago. It was the same story, so maybe he believes it. But it just sounds like fucking paranormal 3 and some things don't make sense. But he did seem nervous talking about it, I dunno.

He claims and he claims that his family all saw it too, I never talk to them, so I haven't heard it from them.

He tries to say that there was a fucking demon in his house or something. First he says they were cooking pancakes and left the room for 30 seconds and when they came back to the kitchen, everything was thrown all over the place. A huge mess.

Then he says they all saw a person in the garage. Then he tells me that he went into the bathroom and he saw red eyes in the dark and a screaming sound and he said that was the last night he stayed there.

Sounds like bullshit. I'm like "have you tried to follow up with the new owners of the house? they experience this shit?" "Why wouldn't you call some TV show or a medium or some shit if it's that elaborate?"

I'm 99% sure its BS, but you never know.

That's the closest I've ever gotten to a ghost, so whatever.

[Jerm]

I've never heard screaming like that or witnesse red eyes but I have heard growling and snarling before...absolutely believe it was demonic.

[dmahurin]

Many many years ago….we smoked some bowls….we drank some beers….and we decided to head to the Leeton glowing tombstone. Got there around midnight. Parked a few blocks away and climbed the gate into the cemetery. Went looking for the glowing tombstone. The night is black without a moon….the air is thick and still…whoops! Went a little Rush there for a second. It was a very very dark night. And then it happened! The Leeton police pulled right up to the locked gate of the cemetery. We all hit the ground. We waited and waited but that sumbitch just wouldn’t leave. Figuring he knew we were in there, someone made the decision to bolt…..right across the driveway, through the cops headlights and out of sight. Like lemmings, we all followed. I was second to last and I was quick as a cat! I blasted across the driveway in the blink of an eye and as I was running full speed into the darkness I remember thinking…..”I can’t see shit! I should probably slow down.” And that’s when I hit the barbed wire fence at full speed.

That shit’ll stop ya on a dime! My right arm slammed through the rows of barbed wire at the top of the fence and I had just enough time to pull it back out when the girl behind me, my future wife, ran headlong into me and bounced me back into the barbed wire fence. This time my right shoulder slammed into the rows of barbed wire. We bounced off, climbed the fence, and ran into the cow pasture and squatted down with the cows until the cop left. We watched him roll out of site and then took off full speed back to the car. It was at this point, again running full speed in total darkness, that I ran into a very wicked crotch high sticker bush and I’m all….FFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUCK!

We get back to the car and I’m pretty damn torn up man! I’m bleeding all over the damn place. We got the hell out of there. By the time I got home my jeans were just soaked with blood. As I sit here 30 years later writing this, I can clearly see several scars, pretty bad ones. War wounds. Probably should’ve had a few of these stitched up. Didn’t SEEM so bad at the time….but then again I was high yo!

The End.

PS –
1 - that ****ing tombstone didn’t glow.
2 - I didn’t see no damn ghosts.
3 - Barbed wire will **** you up man!
4 – the Leeton glowing tomb stone ain’t in this video.
5 – then the midgets….then the ****ing midgets!


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My version of this childhood tale was a little different. After smoking a few bowls in the cemetery, the police pull up to the gate. My friends and I also lay down to hide but then decide to make a run for it. While running in the dark I ran right over the top of a fresh grave and sank down in the unpacked dirt to just above my knees.

I lost my left shoe in that grave. I hope that body never needs to be exhumed for anything. There will be some strange looks when a shoe is found standing on top of a buried coffin.

[Radar Chief]

I saw that movie. It was called Child's Play.

Staring Jon Gruden, I know the show you're talking about.

[Iowanian]

I've told my story here before.

I'll just say the part that convinced me the most would be the windows exploding out of the attic after I yelled at the boogie man in my room. True.

[FishingRod]

There was a Murder suicide in my Kitchen back in the late 70’s. Estranged husband jumped the back fence came in through the walk out-basement then proceeded to shoot the wife and then himself in the kitchen. People not named fishingrod have seen things for years. Then stopped seeing things when we remodeled about 8 years ago. A couple of days ago Mrs. Fishingrod went into the spare bedroom to grab a blanket while we were watching movies. When she took it back in I heard her say WTF! Between when she grabbed the blanket and took it back, the covers on the Bed somehow were turned down on one side. I think it was one of the Dogs but they are both shedding heavily right now and there was no doggie hair on the bed. I’m told I am just not sensitive to the paranormal.

[Thig Lyfe]

There was a Murder suicide in my Kitchen back in the late 70’s. Estranged husband jumped the back fence came in through the walk out-basement then proceeded to shoot the wife and then himself in the kitchen. People not named fishingrod have seen things for years. Then stopped seeing things when we remodeled about 8 years ago. A couple of days ago Mrs. Fishingrod went into the spare bedroom to grab a blanket while we were watching movies. When she took it back in I heard her say WTF! Between when she grabbed the blanket and took it back, the covers on the Bed somehow were turned down on one side. I think it was one of the Dogs but they are both shedding heavily right now and there was no doggie hair on the bed. I’m told I am just not sensitive to the paranormal.

did u get bonr

[OrtonsPiercedTaint]

sometimes my wiener gets hard and i dont know how, is ghosts involved???

If so, they hung out in a lot of 7-11s, back in the day.

[beach tribe]

I saw that movie. It was called Child's Play.

I was just about to say.......
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ROFLROFL. Oh good lawd this clip KILLS me.
"You stupid BITCH! I'll teach you to **** with me!!"

[beach tribe]

I've told my story here before.

I'll just say the part that convinced me the most would be the windows exploding out of the attic after I yelled at the boogie man in my room. True.

Please tell again.
That is way beyond "negative energy" or "shadows".
Sounds awesome.

[Hammock Parties]

Last night at the gym I was alone, and looked up and noticed a treadmill was running all on it's own.

I got all spooked, man.

[Chief_For_Life58]

Last night at the gym I was alone, and looked up and noticed a treadmill was running all on it's own.

I got all spooked, man.

It was Steve Prefontaines ghost!!!!

[Bump]

I did live in a shitty apartment complex in Lawrence, KS for a year.

My stereo shelf speaker system would just turn on at all random hours of the day. 3 am. 6 am, noon, 2 pm, 6pm, etc. Just random times and pretty often. It would just turn on and start playing a CD on full blast.

When I moved out, that never happened again and I still have the radio too because it makes a great stereo for the computer.

Maybe a ghost? It was creepy.

[KC native]

I wonder if casper is really friendly or if he is just a pussy

[mcan]

Are ghosts real? Nope.


But man oh man, ghost STORIES are awesome. Keep em coming.

[Lumpy]

My stereo shelf speaker system would just turn on at all random hours of the day.

Reverse polarity in an electrical outlet can do some crazy things to electronics.

It was probably a ghost though.

Boo.

[Bump]

Reverse polarity in an electrical outlet can do some crazy things to electronics.

It was probably a ghost though.

Boo.

no, I prefer logical reasoning. Good point.

[Thig Lyfe]

Are ghosts real? Nope.


But man oh man, ghost STORIES are awesome. Keep em coming.

yeah I've already cum twice

[Thig Lyfe]

BOO!

Scared you!!!!

[Canofbier]

yeah I've already cum twice


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[Contrarian]

if robots exist why cant ghosts

Wish you were a ghost instead of a robot repeating your anti Chief sentiments like fck'n Robot B9 from Lost in Space. "Danger, danger we have Alex Smith as our QB, eehhhh!!" whimper...whimper...fart...

[KC native]

Wish you were a ghost instead of a robot repeating your anti Chief sentiments like fck'n Robot B9 from Lost in Space. "Danger, danger we have Alex Smith as our QB, eehhhh!!" whimper...whimper...fart...

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[Thig Lyfe]

Wish you were a ghost instead of a robot repeating your anti Chief sentiments like fck'n Robot B9 from Lost in Space. "Danger, danger we have Alex Smith as our QB, eehhhh!!" whimper...whimper...fart...

robots can't fart tho

[Easy 6]

I can honestly say that i've never had what i can truly confirm as a ghost experience, i've heard and seen a few things that gave me pause, a few times in a buddies house that used to be a transit for the Underground Railroad thats now a historic sight in town and a bed and breakfast, and a few times in an ex-girlfriends apartment where a guy upstairs died and wasnt discovered for several days... pretty much just odd sounds, odd feelings and strange flashes in my peripheral vision kinda things.

But i do believe in the human spirit and have seen enough other things to absolutely convince me that anything you can imagine is possible, so i never poo-poo ghost stories.

[Easy 6]

Thousands of people looking for ghosts daily and not one documented and confirmed sighting with visual proof. Ghosts=Bigfoot.

That is 100% pure lie.

[teedubya]

People who have experienced them know they are real. Those who haven't usually don't believe.

This.

[KC native]

robots can't fart tho

http://www.blirk.net/wallpapers/1280x800/bender-wallpaper-1.jpg.

[mcan]

I can honestly say that i've never had what i can truly confirm as a ghost experience, i've heard and seen a few things that gave me pause, a few times in a buddies house that used to be a transit for the Underground Railroad thats now a historic sight in town and a bed and breakfast, and a few times in an ex-girlfriends apartment where a guy upstairs died and wasnt discovered for several days... pretty much just odd sounds, odd feelings and strange flashes in my peripheral vision kinda things.

But i do believe in the human spirit and have seen enough other things to absolutely convince me that anything you can imagine is possible, so i never poo-poo ghost stories.

That is 100% pure lie.


For a second, I didn't read what you were responding to in the second post, and thought this was an elaborately set up joke.

[Easy 6]

For a second, I didn't read what you were responding to in the second post, and thought this was an elaborately set up joke.

HA! i'm not that clever at this point in the evening...

[bevischief]

Just die.

[Lex Luthor]

That is 100% pure lie.
So where are the documented and confirmed sightings?

I would think that with the billions of potential ghosts out there (one for each person who ever lived on this planet), a documented and confirmed sighting for ONE ghost isn't a lot to ask for.

[bevischief]

Seriously this made to 14 pages with this clown starting it?

[warpaint*]

I did live in a shitty apartment complex in Lawrence, KS for a year.

My stereo shelf speaker system would just turn on at all random hours of the day. 3 am. 6 am, noon, 2 pm, 6pm, etc. Just random times and pretty often. It would just turn on and start playing a CD on full blast.

When I moved out, that never happened again and I still have the radio too because it makes a great stereo for the computer.

Maybe a ghost? It was creepy.

Mine did that too while I was living in a house in Liberty and quit once I moved out. For several months it was just during the day and sometimes while I was sitting right in front of it in the living room reading or whatever. First time it happened in the middle of the night at like 2 AM and I came screaming down the hall w/ a baseball bat thinking someone was in the house freaked out of my mind. The volume was turned up pretty high which contributed to scaring the crap out of me coming straight out of a dead sleep. I started turning the volume down to 0 when I was done w/ it before bed and the problem was solved but it would still happen periodically during the day.

That was ten years ago (when I moved out), I still have it, and it hasn't happened since so it was something about that house.

[BigRichard]

Seriously this made to 14 pages with this clown starting it?

If you don't like it then you can
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[LoneWolf]

If you don't like it then you can
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LMAO that gif never gets old LMAO

[Kaepernick]

Here is a curveball...

There are 317 million people in the USA according to the CIA World Factbook.

160 million are Protestants.

76 million are Catholics.

3 million are non-denominational Christians.

Call it 240 million Christians.

So how do people who consider themselves to be Christians reconcile a belief in ghosts when the bible precludes the possibity? Lost souls go to Purgatory, they don't get to hang around on earth causing trouble for people.

There are no such things as ghosts or no such thing as God. If I ever saw a ghost, that would be a very bad thing for me as it would mean God doesn't exist.

[MOhillbilly]

Here is a curveball...

There are 317 million people in the USA according to the CIA World Factbook.

160 million are Protestants.

76 million are Catholics.

3 million are non-denominational Christians.

Call it 240 million Christians.

So how do people who consider themselves to be Christians reconcile a belief in ghosts when the bible precludes the possibity? Lost souls go to Purgatory, they don't get to hang around on earth causing trouble for people.

There are no such things as ghosts or no such thing as God. If I ever saw a ghost, that would be a very bad thing for me as it would mean God doesn't exist.
Purgatory isn't Christian.

[Kaepernick]

8 videos in this series...pretty compelling. If he's faking it...it's a pretty good fake.

http://www.youtube.com/user/MrChansuolme1/videos?flow=grid&view=0

Would somebody please explain to me how ghosts can walk throught walls AND can open cabinet doors, move chairs, throw objects, break windows? Are they in the physical world or not? If they are not in the physical world and are just a spirit without mass, then how do grab stuff?

Must be magix.

[Simply Red]

I saw a ghost of Marilyn Chambers ass in the air. I was NOT scared at all.

[Donger]

So how do people who consider themselves to be Christians reconcile a belief in ghosts when the bible precludes the possibity?

Where does the Bible do that?

[Kaepernick]

I'm of the belief (both as a skeptical molecular geneticist and as a lay person) that there are things we don't understand. is it possible that the things that are seen/felt/heard are ACTUALLY supernatural? I doubt it. is it possible that they're manifestations of some sort of energy that we don't know of? sure, why not? remember, einstein tells us that all matter is energy. when you die, it's possible that some imprint of you is left behind in the form of energy. will we figure it out soon? who the hell knows?

but the idea that people believe what they want to believe and see what they want to see is absolutely true from an evolutionary standpoint... read Michael Shermer's 'The Believing Brain.' it goes into great depth on the supernatural, facial recognition, pattern recognition, etc. in other words, MANY things that are complete nonsense/coincidence get interpreted as 'spooky' because we, evolutionarily, recognize certain patterns for our survival as a species. cool stuff.

All I know is the human brain is an enigma to me. People fell their legs itch months after getting amputated. I've had some darling hallucinations while deprived of sleep. Visual and aural. I'll believe in ghosts when I see one, which will be never.

[Donger]

All I know is the human brain is an enigma to me. People fell their legs itch months after getting amputated. I've had some darling hallucinations while deprived of sleep. Visual and aural. I'll believe in ghosts when I see one, which will be never.

You should read the handbook. It states: "Live people often ignore the strange and unusual."

[Kaepernick]

Where does the Bible do that?

It is the part about dead people going to Heaven, Hell or Purgatory upon death. There is nothing in the bible that mentions the souls of dead people staying on earth. The only mention of ghosts in the bible are things like the Apostles mistaking Christ for a ghost who then corrects them. The Apostles believed in ghosts, but then they believed in a lot of crap before they followed Christ.

The Bible mentions angels and demons. No ghosts.

[Donger]

It is the part about dead people going to Heaven, Hell or Purgatory upon death. There is nothing in the bible that mentions the souls of dead people staying on earth. The only mention of ghosts in the bible are things like the Apostles mistaking Christ for a ghost who then corrects them. The Apostles believed in ghosts, but then they believed in a lot of crap before they followed Christ.

The Bible mentions angels and demons. No ghosts.

Sorry, but that isn't what you stated. You stated: "a belief in ghosts when the bible precludes the possibity?"

Not mentioning ghosts doesn't mean that the Bible precludes the possibility of them existing.

[Kaepernick]

here's the thing about proof of that sort of thing... do you know how difficult it is to get scientific funding these days? DAMNED hard, right next to impossible in some cases. we'll put it this way with regard to the supernatural:

the first legit proof of the supernatural, verifiable and peer-reviewed, would net the finder the following:

1) nobel prize/huge scientific cred of some sort (this is huge, believe it or not)
2) funding for LIFE

that it HASN'T happened, to me, is evidence that we either don't have the tech for it yet or that it just isn't there (I'll accept either as viable possibilities)

Or extraterrestrials or bigfoot or Nessie or witches or vampires. Good luck with all that stuff. Not an iota of proof in the bunch.

[booger]

I saw a ghost of Marilyn Chambers ass in the air. I was NOT scared at all.

put on a coozie i bet its cold in there!

[Kaepernick]

Sorry, but that isn't what you stated. You stated: "a belief in ghosts when the bible precludes the possibity?"

Not mentioning ghosts doesn't mean that the Bible precludes the possibility of them existing.

Yes it does. In order for ghosts to exist under Christian theology taken from the Bible, either God would have to misplace souls on earth by accident or God would have to allow animated souls with Free Will to roam earth on purpose. There is absolutly no reference to either possiblity in the Bible.

The best I can figure from my reading of the bible is that souls of the dead sleep until the final judgment day. Even Jesus was attributed to saying "Lazarus sleeps" in reference to Lazarus being dead.

Hell, even Christ's divine soul was inanimate for 3 days, only appearing to his followers after his resurrection, and that was in body not as a ghost. Doubting Thomas actually felt the holes in his hands and feet - so Christ returned in flesh form resurrected, not as a ghost.

"Why are ye troubled? and why do thoughts arise in your hearts? Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have."- Luke 24:36-39

Hey, I'm not asking you not to believe in ghosts. I am only saying a belief in ghosts is directly opposed to Christian theology. There is no wiggle room for believing in Christ and believing in ghosts. The bible is pretty clear on that. Dead souls sleep or are in stasis pending Christ's 2nd coming. They aren't running around loose on earth. Ghosts are not possible under any reading of Christian theology.

That is why I directed my question to Christians. Either there are no ghosts or there is no God and the bible is all made up. It can't be any other way.

Don't blame me. I didn't write the bible.

[Donger]

There is absolutly no reference to either possiblity in the Bible.

The Bible doesn't mention General Relativity or Justin Bieber either. But they exist.

[Ebolapox]

Or extraterrestrials or bigfoot or Nessie or witches or vampires. Good luck with all that stuff. Not an iota of proof in the bunch.

yep

[LoneWolf]

That is 100% pure lie.

OK, I'm willing to believe. Show me this documented proven example of a ghost with visual proof. If you can't, then take your 100% pure lie comment and shove it up your ass.

[Donger]

OK, I'm willing to believe. Show me this documented proven example of a ghost with visual proof. If you can't, then take your 100% pure lie comment and shove it up your ass.

I don't really care about visual proof. That "evidence" would be highly subjective. One thing that's always given me pause about "proof of ghosts" is actually a part of physics: the conservation of energy.

[LoneWolf]

I don't really care about visual proof. That "evidence" would be highly subjective. One thing that's always given me pause about "proof of ghosts" is actually a part of physics: the conservation of energy.

One subject that has always eluded me was physics. Please enlighten me on the conservation of energy and how it pertains to ghosts.

[Kaepernick]

The Bible doesn't mention General Relativity or Justin Bieber either. But they exist.

Death, resurrection, the afterlife, Heaven, Hell, the immortal soul. All of this is central to Christian theology and discussed ad nauseum in the bible. The entire discussion of the immortal soul is paramount throught the bible. I don't buy your inference that the authors would have over looked a little detail like God leaving you free to wander the material world while you are waiting.

But you can go ahead and pretend all that wasn't covered exhaustively in the bible.

Ghosts aren't possible under Christian theology.

The only possible biblical explanation for hauntings would be demons, or angels I guess.

I'm not trying to advocate just a personal belief here. I'm just trying to represent a position as written in the bible. I'm not pulling this out of my ass you know.

[KC native]

One subject that has always eluded me was physics. Please enlighten me on the conservation of energy and how it pertains to ghosts.

E=MC GHOZT SON

[LoneWolf]

E=MC GHOZT SON

I loved MC GHOZT SON's last CD. It was off the chain.

[KC native]

HAY EERY1 I FOUND PROOF OF A GROUP OF GHOSTS

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[KC native]

I DUN KNOW IF THIZ GUY IS A REAL GHOZT OR A GHOST KILLAH

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[Donger]

One subject that has always eluded me was physics. Please enlighten me on the conservation of energy and how it pertains to ghosts.

It pretty much states that energy cannot be created or destroyed, merely transformed. Humans have energy. When we die, where does that energy go? Just absorbed into the surroundings? Possibly, or...

[Donger]

I don't buy your inference that the authors would have over looked a little detail like God leaving you free to wander the material world while you are waiting.

That's fine. You don't have to "buy it."

I'm not pulling this out of my ass you know.

Sure you are.

[Iowanian]

I wasn't sure about the subject either way and was pretty skeptical until I was convinced in a personal manner.

The short story as told here before is....I moved into a rental. The house felt strange, I had the eeby jeebies all of the time, especially in the basement. Weird things happened regularly, mostly explainable...like a bat slapping me in the back of the head one night as I watched TV...or the bees that came out of the ceiling fan in the winter.

I couldn't explain the loud noise that woke me up one night. I could tell you that it sounded like someone was rattling antlers with fists full of plastic and paper bags(closest I can explain)..louder and louder until I woke up. Can't explain what the large shadow standing over my bed was either. I closed my eyes, opened them back up....still there.
Fight or flight kicks in, I get pissed off...the the afraid pissed off and I yell at it to Get the F out of my house...or something similar. I hear a large "WHOOOOOOOOF".....like if you pour gas on a leaf pile and wait a little bit too long to light it.

Then silence. I slept like a baby the rest of the night.

Next morning I wake up thinking it might have been a dream or something....until I went outside and saw glass all over 2 sides of my yard. The north and east attic windows were blown completely from the frames. Not a single piece of glass was inside the house or remained in the frame.

There was no wind, there was no storm, there were no leaves or branches on the ground. Only glass scattered further than you'd think it could be.

After that day, nothing else strange happened while I lived there. I can't tell you what it was, I can't explain it, but I can guarantee it happened very close to the way I've just explained it.

[plbrdude]

Purgatory isn't Christian.

glad you pointed that out, never have seen a reference to that in the Bible.

[plbrdude]

Yes it does. In order for ghosts to exist under Christian theology taken from the Bible, either God would have to misplace souls on earth by accident or God would have to allow animated souls with Free Will to roam earth on purpose. There is absolutly no reference to either possiblity in the Bible.

The best I can figure from my reading of the bible is that souls of the dead sleep until the final judgment day. Even Jesus was attributed to saying "Lazarus sleeps" in reference to Lazarus being dead.

Hell, even Christ's divine soul was inanimate for 3 days, only appearing to his followers after his resurrection, and that was in body not as a ghost. Doubting Thomas actually felt the holes in his hands and feet - so Christ returned in flesh form resurrected, not as a ghost.

"Why are ye troubled? and why do thoughts arise in your hearts? Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have."- Luke 24:36-39

Hey, I'm not asking you not to believe in ghosts. I am only saying a belief in ghosts is directly opposed to Christian theology. There is no wiggle room for believing in Christ and believing in ghosts. The bible is pretty clear on that. Dead souls sleep or are in stasis pending Christ's 2nd coming. They aren't running around loose on earth. Ghosts are not possible under any reading of Christian theology.

That is why I directed my question to Christians. Either there are no ghosts or there is no God and the bible is all made up. It can't be any other way.

Don't blame me. I didn't write the bible.

Actually the Greek word for ghost is also the word for spirit.

[InChiefsHeaven]

glad you pointed that out, never have seen a reference to that in the Bible.

Not every thing Christian is explicitly in the Bible. Good luck finding the word Trinity...yet all Christians believe in it. Purgatory is in the Bible. Just not explicitly.

As for Ghosts...I'm a fence rider. I do believe that none of that shit is to be messed with. Ouija boards, seances, etc. But I do believe that God sends us messages, in the form of angels. I think more often, they are demons. I believe that once we die, we go to purgation (cleansing) while we await heaven, or we go straight to hell. Any visitations we have from the beyond are either a blessing or a curse, and it takes discernment to figure out which.

Either way, it's nothing to trifle with. You'd never find me on a "ghost hunt"...

[kcxiv]

glad you pointed that out, never have seen a reference to that in the Bible.

no, but the bible acknowledges, Angels, evil angels and the Supernatural. I just recently read that in my study bible i got.

[plbrdude]

Not every thing Christian is explicitly in the Bible. Good luck finding the word Trinity...yet all Christians believe in it. Purgatory is in the Bible. Just not explicitly.

As for Ghosts...I'm a fence rider. I do believe that none of that shit is to be messed with. Ouija boards, seances, etc. But I do believe that God sends us messages, in the form of angels. I think more often, they are demons. I believe that once we die, we go to purgation (cleansing) while we await heaven, or we go straight to hell. Any visitations we have from the beyond are either a blessing or a curse, and it takes discernment to figure out which.

Either way, it's nothing to trifle with. You'd never find me on a "ghost hunt"...

not all Christians believe in the trinity. on the ghost thing i pretty much agree with what you're saying there. angels are called ministering spirits. i don't agree with the purgatory thing though, Paul wrote that to be absent from the body was to be present with the Lord, either that or we get a long peaceful nap awaiting to be called into His presence.

[warpaint*]

Not every thing Christian is explicitly in the Bible. Good luck finding the word Trinity...yet all Christians believe in it. Purgatory is in the Bible. Just not explicitly.

As for Ghosts...I'm a fence rider. I do believe that none of that shit is to be messed with. Ouija boards, seances, etc. But I do believe that God sends us messages, in the form of angels. I think more often, they are demons. I believe that once we die, we go to purgation (cleansing) while we await heaven, or we go straight to hell. Any visitations we have from the beyond are either a blessing or a curse, and it takes discernment to figure out which.

Either way, it's nothing to trifle with. You'd never find me on a "ghost hunt"...

No it isn't but the doctrine is derived from the Bible itself as the Bible in no uncertain terms claims the following which encompasses the doctrine of the trinity:
1. There is only one God.
2. God the Father is God.
3. Jesus is God.
4. The Holy Ghost or Spirit is God.
5. The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are three distinct persons.

Purgatory OTOH as a word and doctrinal principle in general isn't anywhere in the Bible.

The word itself was first used I think in the 12th century although elements of the principles of going through some sort of transition between earth and heaven date further back. The difference here is they are not Biblical.

I agree that there are things not written in the Bible that are true and also possibly true so long as they don't contradict anything in God's word.

As for ghosts...don't believe in them. When was the last time a ghost haunted a highly populated office building or police station or shopping mall and appeared to someone at 2:45pm. No...it's always the middle of the night, in some dilapidated shack that's falling apart with a dearth of witnesses. As for the people that see stuff, it's not that I necessarily think they're lying or are crazy (I don't necessarily), I just think they are subconsciously hallucinating.

As for people that testify to those experiences, I respect their POV to disagree as it's their personal experience. I just think the reality is the result of something else.

I have substituted "Christian" with "Biblical" b/c the former is used to encompass a wide variety of things over time that are not necessarily rooted in God's word.

[warpaint*]

Furthermore, I agree that messing w/ Ouija boards or other things of the like is asking for trouble b/c I firmly believe demonic forces are real and present in the world. But those aren't ghosts and such belief is Biblical.

[KC native]

Lol @ the posters trying to make this a serious thread.

[Jerm]

Furthermore, I agree that messing w/ Ouija boards or other things of the like is asking for trouble b/c I firmly believe demonic forces are real and present in the world. But those aren't ghosts and such belief is Biblical.

I used a Ouija board once and never again...fuck that...

[MotherfuckerJones]

Got stoned and this thread for some reason creeped me the fuck out

[InChiefsHeaven]

Purgatory OTOH as a word and doctrinal principle in general isn't anywhere in the Bible.

The word itself was first used I think in the 12th century although elements of the principles of going through some sort of transition between earth and heaven date further back. The difference here is they are not Biblical.

I agree that there are things not written in the Bible that are true and also possibly true so long as they don't contradict anything in God's word.

I disagree that purgutory is not Biblical. I hate to cut and paste, but this is a relatively short exerpt from Catholic.com:

Christ refers to the sinner who "will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come" (Matt. 12:32), suggesting that one can be freed after death of the consequences of one’s sins. Similarly, Paul tells us that, when we are judged, each man’s work will be tried. And what happens if a righteous man’s work fails the test? "He will suffer loss, though he himself will be saved, but only as through fire" (1 Cor 3:15). Now this loss, this penalty, can’t refer to consignment to hell, since no one is saved there; and heaven can’t be meant, since there is no suffering ("fire") there. The Catholic doctrine of purgatory alone explains this passage.

Then, of course, there is the Bible’s approval of prayers for the dead: "In doing this he acted in a very excellent and noble way, inasmuch as he had the resurrection of the dead in view; for if he were not expecting the dead to rise again, it would have been useless and foolish to pray for them in death. But if he did this with a view to the splendid reward that awaits those who had gone to rest in godliness, it was a holy and pious thought. Thus he made atonement for the dead that they might be freed from this sin" (2 Macc. 12:43–45). Prayers are not needed by those in heaven, and no one can help those in hell. That means some people must be in a third condition, at least temporarily. This verse so clearly illustrates the existence of purgatory that, at the time of the Reformation, Protestants had to cut the books of the Maccabees out of their Bibles in order to avoid accepting the doctrine.

Prayers for the dead and the consequent doctrine of purgatory have been part of the true religion since before the time of Christ. Not only can we show it was practiced by the Jews of the time of the Maccabees, but it has even been retained by Orthodox Jews today, who recite a prayer known as the Mourner’s Kaddish for eleven months after the death of a loved one so that the loved one may be purified. It was not the Catholic Church that added the doctrine of purgatory. Rather, any change in the original teaching has taken place in the Protestant churches, which rejected a doctrine that had always been believed by Jews and Christians.

More here:

http://www.catholic.com/tracts/purgatory

[bevischief]

DC 3,2,1

[InChiefsHeaven]

DC 3,2,1

Sorry, sorry. Won't happen again...

[AdumbGuy]

It doesn't matter if there are ghosts or not. Because even if there are, Frank Zombo will eat said ghosts and shit out touchdowns.

Frank Zombo.

Frank William Zombo the 3rd.

[Donger]

Got stoned and this thread for some reason creeped me the **** out

How about now?

http://i.imgur.com/LEkba.gif

[InChiefsHeaven]

How about now?

http://i.imgur.com/LEkba.gif

Holy crap...what is THAT from?

[Easy 6]

So where are the documented and confirmed sightings?

I would think that with the billions of potential ghosts out there (one for each person who ever lived on this planet), a documented and confirmed sighting for ONE ghost isn't a lot to ask for.

Its called tv and the internet, look around, theres literally TONS of evidence, even those clowns on Ghost Hunters come up with all kinds of great evidence... photographs of shadow figures and orbs, electronic communications, furniture, toys, bricks etc all moving by themselves, some literally thrown across rooms, huge swings in magnetic fields, on and on it goes.

I'm betting nothing could be put in front of you that you'd believe anyway, no matter how good it was, and thats fine by me, but you cannot say the evidence isnt there.

[Thig Lyfe]

Its called tv and the internet, look around, theres literally TONS of evidence, even those clowns on Ghost Hunters come up with all kinds of great evidence... photographs of shadow figures and orbs, electronic communications, furniture, toys, bricks etc all moving by themselves, some literally thrown across rooms, huge swings in magnetic fields, on and on it goes.

I'm betting nothing could be put in front of you that you'd believe anyway, no matter how good it was, and thats fine by me, but you cannot say the evidence isnt there.

whats ur fave peer-reviewed academic article supporting the existence of ghosts??? I like all of em

[Easy 6]

Oh Thiggy, you rapscallion you.

[Fish]

Its called tv and the internet, look around, theres literally TONS of evidence, even those clowns on Ghost Hunters come up with all kinds of great evidence... photographs of shadow figures and orbs, electronic communications, furniture, toys, bricks etc all moving by themselves, some literally thrown across rooms, huge swings in magnetic fields, on and on it goes.

I'm betting nothing could be put in front of you that you'd believe anyway, no matter how good it was, and thats fine by me, but you cannot say the evidence isnt there.

Do you know of any evidence that has been accepted by a large consensus of people as actual evidence of proof? One video or pic that you can point to and say "See, there's no way you can explain that away."

That shouldn't be incredibly difficult considering the number of people who've claimed to see absolute proof that made them convinced.

Why do you think we lack evidence such as that?

[durtyrute]

yes

[Radar Chief]

Its called tv and the internet, look around, theres literally TONS of evidence, even those clowns on Ghost Hunters come up with all kinds of great evidence... photographs of shadow figures and orbs, electronic communications, furniture, toys, bricks etc all moving by themselves, some literally thrown across rooms, huge swings in magnetic fields, on and on it goes.

I'm betting nothing could be put in front of you that you'd believe anyway, no matter how good it was, and thats fine by me, but you cannot say the evidence isnt there.

The thing with most paranormal investigators is they’re not presenting pictures, videos, audio and saying, “This is proof of ghosts”. They present the evidence and say, “We caught this and have no natural explanation for what it is.” Which is as it should be, IMO.

[Easy 6]

Do you know of any evidence that has been accepted by a large consensus of people as actual evidence of proof? One video or pic that you can point to and say "See, there's no way you can explain that away."

That shouldn't be incredibly difficult considering the number of people who've claimed to see absolute proof that made them convinced.

Why do you think we lack evidence such as that?

To name just one single instance, theres an episode of Ghost Hunters where a brick gets thrown across a room, the camera catches it lifting off of the floor and being hurled across the room.

Bricks dont normally throw themselves.

If you want to say they put it on, thats one thing, although i dont believe they fake stuff.

And again, there IS evidence on tape that cannot be explained away... rocks and bricks being thrown, doors in areas with absolutely no wind that not only open by themselves only to close again and latch themselves seconds later.

Its out there for those who want to look, but you're like Brainiac, nothing short of a personal experience is going to rattle your conviction that science has explained everything that will ever need explaining, and that anything outside of - current - important word here, science is just peoples imaginations and superstitions getting the best of them.

You're pretty famous for debunking any and everything quasi-mystical, so i'm not beating my head against the wall debating this with you, my intent isnt to sway anyone, but to simply make the point that science does not have all of the answers to our human experience.

[frankotank]

If I ever saw a ghost, that would be a very bad thing for me as it would mean God doesn't exist.

as you stated....per the bible....you ain't gonna die and then hang around your apartment. the idea....even without Christian beliefs....is absurd. but that kind of thinking does fly directly in the face of Christianity.

my thoughts are this....IF there is something going on...sightings or whatever....IF it's really real (and if you're believing the bible then you damn well gotta believe in the supernatural!), if somethings really going on....it ain't being done by a decease human being. it has to be demonic or angelic.

[Radar Chief]

To name just one single instance, theres an episode of Ghost Hunters where a brick gets thrown across a room, the camera catches it lifting off of the floor and being hurled across the room.

Bricks dont normally throw themselves.

If you want to say they put it on, thats one thing, although i dont believe they fake stuff.

And again, there IS evidence on tape that cannot be explained away... rocks and bricks being thrown, doors in areas with absolutely no wind that not only open by themselves only to close again and latch themselves seconds later.

Its out there for those who want to look, but you're like Brainiac, nothing short of a personal experience is going to rattle your conviction that science has explained everything that will ever need explaining, and that anything outside of - current - important word here, science is just peoples imaginations and superstitions getting the best of them.

You're pretty famous for debunking any and everything quasi-mystical, so i'm not beating my head against the wall debating this with you, my intent isnt to sway anyone, but to simply make the point that science does not have all of the answers to our human experience.

I think that was actually Ghost Adventures. I know the show you’re talking about and at one time the video was on YouTube but copywrite suits have chased most of that stuff off there.