PFF Examines QB Pressure Under Play - See If You Agree

[houstonwhodat]

Check out this article by PFF examining QB's play under pressure.

No surprise Drew Brees is listed best in a clean pocket.

They show Aaron Rodgers as best under pressure. But Brees is damn good too.

See what you think.


https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2013/05/29/examining-pressure-qb-play/

[Rasputin]

Drew Brees mole > Alex Smith

[loochy]

cassel, orton, and quinn among the worst

holy hell cassel is terrible

awesome

at least smith isn't among the WORST

[BlackHelicopters]

Alex Smith will take us to NYC in February.

[houstonwhodat]

Alex Smith will take us to NYC in February.


Greyhound Bus?

[dmahurin]

Greyhound Bus?

A plane that he won't be able to touch down in, so it will break apart in mid air.

[Tribal Warfare]

Gheyhound Bus?

FYP

[Hammock Parties]

Alex Smith wasn't on any of those charts.

Purgatory here we come.

[houstonwhodat]

Alex Smith wasn't on any of those charts.

Purgatory here we come.

Yeah why is that?

[Hammock Parties]

Yeah why is that?

I didn't really pay too much attention but probably has something to do with the fact he never takes risks, so his completion percentage doesn't drop under pressure, and he doesn't throw INTs.

Just dump it off baby!

[Chiefs316]

Another stat proving Cassel is who we thought he was. Good riddance. At least Smith isn't part of the lower end. Crawling back in my hole now.

[Marcellus]

Alex Smith wasn't on any of those charts.

Purgatory here we come.

But I thought Alex Smith WAS Cassel according to you fuck sticks.

[Jakemall]

Alex Smith wasn't on any of those charts.

Purgatory here we come.

Eric Branch of the San Francisco Chronicle notes via Stats Inc. that only Tom Brady has a higher QB rating against the blitz this season. Smith has completed 18 of 24 passes for 229 yards with two touchdowns for a 132 rating.

This was 2011. I don't know what it was for 2012, but his QB rating was significantly higher in 2012 than it was in 2011..so I imagine that it was the same or better.

[Marcellus]

I didn't really pay too much attention but probably has something to do with the fact he never takes risks, so his completion percentage doesn't drop under pressure, and he doesn't throw INTs.

Just dump it off baby!

Someone who knows nothing about football gives his opinion and it includes "I really didn't pay too much attention".

Shocker Clay, shocker.

[Jakemall]

Someone who knows nothing about football gives his opinion and it includes "I really didn't pay too much attention".

Shocker Clay, shocker.

One of the biggest misnomers of Alex Smith is that he is a "safe qb" who dumps it off a lot. % of passes to hbs is less than the average of the league. His ypa last year was among the best last year. He plays safe and smart with the ball, but that doesn't mean he isn't getting the ball down field.

I'd love for someone to provide some statistical evidence to support that Alex Smith dumps balls off more than the average NFL qb.

[mikey23545]

One of the biggest misnomers of Alex Smith is that he is a "safe qb" who dumps it off a lot. % of passes to hbs is less than the average of the league. His ypa last year was among the best last year. He plays safe and smart with the ball, but that doesn't mean he isn't getting the ball down field.

I'd love for someone to provide some statistical evidence to support that Alex Smith dumps balls off more than the average NFL qb.

Gochiefs probably could, but he stays kinda busy letting guys dump balls off into his mouth...

[Hammock Parties]

I'd love for someone to provide some statistical evidence to support that Alex Smith dumps balls off more than the average NFL qb.

Alex Smith dumps the ball off more than Matt Cassel. Ponder this:

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2013/03/02/which-smith-are-the-chiefs-getting/

http://i.imgur.com/v1jJdze.jpg

[Hammock Parties]

Someone who knows nothing about football gives his opinion and it includes "I really didn't pay too much attention".

Shocker Clay, shocker.

Eat shit, asshole. I was referring to the link. Everyone knows Alex Smith is a dumpoff queen.

[Hammock Parties]

But I thought Alex Smith WAS Cassel according to you fuck sticks.

Given a similar environment, he probably would be. And in fact, was, for the majority of his career.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

A plane that he won't be able to touch down in, so it will break apart in mid air.

Scary!!!

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Another stat proving Cassel is who we thought he was. Good riddance. At least Smith isn't part of the lower end. Crawling back in my hole now.


PFF exposed Cassel as a fraud before he even got here. They are MUCH more favorable towards Alex.

[ChiefRocka]

Drew Brees mole > Alex Smith

That thing came back again??

[Sandy Vagina]

Eric Branch of the San Francisco Chronicle notes via Stats Inc. that only Tom Brady has a higher QB rating against the blitz this season. Smith has completed 18 of 24 passes for 229 yards with two touchdowns for a 132 rating.

This was 2011. I don't know what it was for 2012, but his QB rating was significantly higher in 2012 than it was in 2011..so I imagine that it was the same or better.



2012 / when Alex was blitzed = 126.8 QBR with 8 TDs and 1 INT. :thumb:

EDIT: though PFF shows that his 2011 was a 97.6 QBR.

[Hammock Parties]

2012 / when Alex was blitzed = 126.8 QBR with 8 TDs and 1 INT. :thumb:.

That doesn't really mean much when you suck on third down for your entire career.

That is the most consistent thing about Alex Smith over the years.

[Sandy Vagina]

That doesn't really mean much when you suck on third down for your entire career.

That is the most consistent thing about Alex Smith over the years.

Team stat. There were many other reasons outside of Alex as to why our 3rd down conversion rate suffered.

Believe what you want to try and lessen your QB, if that makes you feel better, though.

[Hammock Parties]

Team stat. There were many other reasons outside of Alex as to why our 3rd down conversion rate suffered.
.

Alex did not play with the same team for every season of his career.

He was the one constant, and the 49ers constantly sucked on third down.

So much so that they had a higher third down conversion rate the year he was injured.

[notorious]

Alex Smith wasn't on any of those charts.

Purgatory here we come.

That's how we fucking roll.

[Sandy Vagina]

Alex did not play with the same team for every season of his career.

He was the one constant, and the 49ers constantly sucked on third down.

So much so that they had a higher third down conversion rate the year he was injured.

Guess Reid is an idiot and the Chiefs are screwed then. Guess Harbaugh was a fool to have Alex on as the 2nd highest paid 49er. Oh well. Everyone should just give up and leave the forum now. Nothing to see here, except doom and gloom.

:lame:

[Hammock Parties]

Guess Reid is an idiot and the Chiefs are screwed then.

Probably. We'll win just enough to see Alex blow it when it truly matters.

[Sandy Vagina]

Are sacks down; TD passes up; completion percentage higher; QB yardage on the ground better; scoring production up; 3rd down conversion percentage improved; red zone productivity improved, etc.?

Here are some statistical comparisons between the two QBs.

Smith has 8 games and Kaepernick has 4 games where they were the starters and played the entire game, and although the totals are different, the percentages can be compared. The difference between the two QBs is microscopic. It seems Harbaugh’s preference is the only reason Kaepernick is playing QB now that Smith is concussion free, because all of the skills that Kaepernick is supposed to have that are better than Smith seemingly have not been converted into points and productivity.

source: pressdemocrat.com

[Jakemall]

[QUOTE=Branden Albert's Huge Balls;9719724]Alex Smith dumps the ball off more than Matt Cassel. Ponder this:



Interesting...so his ypa was 8 and his average attempt was 8 yards. I knew he wasn't getting much yac from his WRs, but that's crazy.

Still 8 yards isn't a dump off. Mix that with a 2 yard run and it's a first down every time. 8 yards and a 70% chance of getting the completion? That's how Montana made his living. Not saying Alex is Montana.

[Sandy Vagina]

Interesting...so his ypa was 8 and his average attempt was 8 yards. I knew he wasn't getting much yac from his WRs, but that's crazy.

Still 8 yards isn't a dump off. Mix that with a 2 yard run and it's a first down every time. 8 yards and a 70% chance of getting the completion? That's how Montana made his living. Not saying Alex is Montana.

Yep. That offense had a lot of designed, clear-out dump passes to benefit the field position game. Plus, we had a quick-read offense that required the QB to read the D and make the quick hit pass underneath to allow for YAC. That was the Harbaugh way, and I can't blame him for utilizing it. We didn't have any real deep threat receivers worth a shit... aside from a wheel-route or seam pass for VD every now and then. (which we inexplicably got away from, though it was such an effective approach)

[jspchief]

If Smith is such an amazing QB why did he hit the open FA market 2 years in a row, only to not garner any attention?

In a QB starved league, Alex Smith was on the market 3 consecutive years.

[houstonwhodat]

That thing came back again??

Brees has a birthmark.

Robert DeNiro has a mole.

[Jakemall]

If Smith is such an amazing QB why did he hit the open FA market 2 years in a row, only to not garner any attention?

In a QB starved league, Alex Smith was on the market 3 consecutive years.

Alex was held accountable for team performance, which is normal for a qb. 2010 he signed a 1 year contract because of the lockout...but note that Harbaugh courted Alex..he could have just let him go.

2011 - everyone knew that Alex wanted to come back to the 9ers. One year is not enough to erase the doubt that was associated with him. Signed a solid (but by no means spectacular) contract with the 9ers for 3 years.

2012 - Still under contract, the 9ers shop Alex because he wants to be a starter and they are committed to Kaepernick. There were a number of teams interested, which is why the Chiefs probably gave up 2 2nd rounders for him.