****OFFICIAL Royals@Spankees 7-10-13 GameThread****

[Ceej]

THE QUEST FOR .500

I will be the sacrificial lamb. Wanksta Wade on the bump. I am in a great ****ing mood and and even better mood if Wade pitches Jim Johnson well and we win the series tonight.

ALSO if the Royals win tonight they achieve .500!!!!

That means, according to our lord and savior, and resident twitter CHODE we get to talk shit AND Jim Johnson get away with it. Jim Johnson.

7:05 EST

Wade "Jim Johnson" Davis (4-7, 5.42ERA)

v.

Ivan Nova (3-2, 4.09ERA)

Will be edited with lineups as soon as I see them.

Jim Johnson.

Royals lineup:

Gordon
Escobar
Hosmer
Butler
Moustakas
Cain
Lough
Giavotella
Kottaras

Yankees lineup:

Gardner
Suzuki
Cano
Hafner
Almonte
Overbalanced
Nunez
Cruz
Stewart

[AussieChiefsFan]

Time to take this series, and break .500 all at the same time.

Go Royals!

[CaliforniaChief]

These next 5 games will go a long ways in saying whether we buy or sell at the deadline.

[Stewie]

Go Royals! Let's get back to .500! It would be especially sweet against the Yankmes.

I'll have to miss tonight's game, though, and I'm bummed about that. :(

[Mr. Laz]

i want the sweep!!!


(2 more, i know)

[topher79]

Kottaras going tonight....3 HR 4 BB in last 11 PA. :clap:

[Toadkiller]

I am in for a win.

[Mr. Laz]

If the Royals don't win do we get to abuse Cjizzles with a crystal plunger?

[Three7s]

Jim Johnson

[Ceej]

If the Royals don't win do we get to abuse Cjizzles with a crystal plunger?

Jim Johnson.

[CaliforniaChief]

I wonder if Holland's available tonight...

Hopefully we find out. Or even better, just kick the shit out of them and cruise to an easy W. I don't know, Davis makes me nervous.

[ptlyon]

Davis makes me nervous.

I'm afraid he is going to get battered like a big catch cod at LJS

[crossbow]

No way Davis beats the Yanks, he is another Kyle Davies in that they are never going to admit that he sucks and just keep giving him chances.

[Three7s]

No way Davis beats the Yanks, he is another Kyle Davies in that they are never going to admit that he sucks and just keep giving him chances.
I'm hopeful that when Davis/Paulino come up, he gets moved to the pen. We could use another arm in there anyway.

[BlackHelicopters]

In for the win.

[CaliforniaChief]

I think the Royals have shown, albeit slowly, that they are going to hold you accountable if you don't perform. If Davis sucks, they'll either replace him from within (Duffy/Paulino) or go get someone at the deadline.

[mr. tegu]

I have a bad feeling about this game. But then again I had a bad feeling about last night's game as well. That means we will win tonight. :D

[topher79]

Tonight's Lineup in 25 AB vs. Nova (only Cain and Lough haven't face him):

.320/.370/.840

:clap:

[TLO]

Let's do this.

[tomahawk kid]

Is Perez hurt? If not, WHY ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH IS HE NOT CATCHING AGAIN TONIGHT?

[C3HIEF3S]

Is Perez hurt? If not, WHY ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH IS HE NOT CATCHING AGAIN TONIGHT?

My guess is to have him for the day game tomorrow.

[CaliforniaChief]

Gotta keep the kid fresh.

Plus, Kottaras loves to pull the ball and should fare well at Yankees Stadium. I also love his plate discipline, which tends to be contagious.

I'm all about Salvy, but Kottaras has been a plus player for us.

[CaliforniaChief]

Yeah, plus with the righty tonight and Pettitte tomorrow, it makes sense to start Kottaras.

[RockChalk]

Is Perez hurt? If not, WHY ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH IS HE NOT CATCHING AGAIN TONIGHT?

This

Kottaras (sp?) sucks behind the plate. I was at Sunday's finale against the A's and was sitting really close. I never realized how terrible he is defensively. Horrible arm and he couldn't block a damn thing. Perez can handle starting 3 straight, then if you want to, give him the day game (tomorrow) off.

[Chris Meck]

because catching is pretty physically brutal and we'd like to have the kid in good shape come late August. Catchers will always play less than other positions due to the demands of the position.


Plus, it means you can PH the kid in the late innings if need be. save some wear and tear.

[Chris Meck]

This

Kottaras (sp?) sucks behind the plate. I was at Sunday's finale against the A's and was sitting really close. I never realized how terrible he is defensively. Horrible arm and he couldn't block a damn thing. Perez can handle starting 3 straight, then if you want to, give him the day game (tomorrow) off.

this is more about how spectacularly good Perez is than how 'bad' Kottaras is.

[tomahawk kid]

Gotta keep the kid fresh.

Plus, Kottaras loves to pull the ball and should fare well at Yankees Stadium. I also love his plate discipline, which tends to be contagious.

I'm all about Salvy, but Kottaras has been a plus player for us.

Kottaras sucks behind the plate.

Salvy is 23. The day night thing shouldn't bother him - especially when you have most of next week off and you just sat him Sunday.

[Great Expectations]

Yeah, plus with the righty tonight and Pettitte tomorrow, it makes sense to start Kottaras.

From Pinetar Press:

Nova doesn’t have a huge split, but he does actually do better against right-handed batters than lefties, which is a bit odd considering his repertoire. That’s something that has been happening throughout his entire career, so it’s not a small sample size aberration from this year.



All that said, Righties do much better against Petite and Perez could have a big game against him.

[BlackHelicopters]

.500 would be so sweet

[DeezNutz]

.500 would be so sweet

Clark?

[BlackHelicopters]

Clark?

I have Senator hair.

[RedDread]

This is the right game for Kottaras in this series, short porch, RHP. I also feel like we'll see Salvy from the 7th on if the game is close, especially when Nova gets pulled.

All that said...he's gonna have to go deep tonight to make it a worthwhile move.

[tomahawk kid]

Rex Hudler ‏@RexHudler1 2m Didn't mean to offend with my comments about Salvie in pinstripes, just glad teams know what we have in KC! Great talent for years to come!

[Great Expectations]

After a year and a half I can finally tune Rex out during games.

[stonedstooge]

Need the good Davis tonight and not the bad Davies

[Coach]

Rex Hudler ‏@RexHudler1 2m Didn't mean to offend with my comments about Salvie in pinstripes, just glad teams know what we have in KC! Great talent for years to come!

Rex Hudler can go fuck himself. :shake:

[Cephalic Trauma]

Rex Hudler can go **** himself. :shake:

I don't think he has the mental capacity to go fuck himself.

[-King-]

It's hilarious that people really took offense to that LMAO

[Coach]

It's hilarious that people really took offense to that LMAO

Technically, I can see why, because the Royals had the knack of trading away quality players (Beltran, Dye, Damon, etc) with nothing to show for it in return.

I'm tired of trading away good quality players for shit players in return. I rather much keep Perez and Hos than to trade them away.

Plus, with Hudler's acts in the announcing, it just got so old quickly, that I just had to mute the game in order to watch it.

[KCUnited]

I don't think anyone took offense to it, but 610 was talking about it the next morning and Keitz was still talking about it today. Media sensationalizing it.

"Ryan saved Rex by telling him 'no'. /Keitz this afternoon.

[Coach]

I don't think anyone took offense to it, but 610 was talking about it the next morning and Keitz was still talking about it today. Media sensationalizing it.

"Ryan saved Rex by telling him 'no'. /Keitz this afternoon.

Hey, anything to get rid of Hudler, I'm good. Even if it's media sensationalizing it. Hudler's just awful.

[lewdog]

Checking in. Hopefully no rain tonight.

[-King-]

Technically, I can see why, because the Royals had the knack of trading away quality players (Beltran, Dye, Damon, etc) with nothing to show for it in return.

I'm tired of trading away good quality players for shit players in return. I rather much keep Perez and Hos than to trade them away.

Plus, with Hudler's acts in the announcing, it just got so old quickly, that I just had to mute the game in order to watch it.

He said nothing about trading Perez. He was just talking about how much more attention Perez would get in NY than he does in KC. He was right. Perez would be a household name if he played for the Yankees.

[Demonpenz]

Yankees draw like shit.

[Demonpenz]

Can someone tell me what that Whistle sound is. They do it at knicks games as well.

[Coach]

He said nothing about trading Perez. He was just talking about how much more attention Perez would get in NY than he does in KC. He was right. Perez would be a household name if he played for the Yankees.

Well, he should had said that specifically, and how the national media is not giving Kansas City any respect (or individual players for that matter) would have been more direct and to the point.

[Coach]

Shit, we're gonna get owned tonight....

[stonedstooge]

BRING HIM HOME BILLY

[-King-]

Well, he should had said that specifically, and how the national media is not giving Kansas City any respect (or individual players for that matter) would have been more direct and to the point.

In context it was to the point. When you take it out of context, like a lot of things, it can be interpreted wrong.

[-King-]

Let's go Moose.

[Canofbier]

Moose at .066 with RISP...lol.

[stonedstooge]

shit

[Demonpenz]

tired of moose.

[Canofbier]

Moose below .066 with RISP...lol.

FMP

[CoMoChief]

I thought Davis was the 3rd starter and Santana was the 2nd no? I thought Santana just pitched not too long ago. Whats the starting rotation?

[stonedstooge]

I thought Davis was the 3rd starter and Santana was the 2nd no? I thought Santana just pitched not too long ago. Whats the starting rotation?

It got scrambled up a few weeks ago.

[Coach]

In context it was to the point. When you take it out of context, like a lot of things, it can be interpreted wrong.

I understand that, which is why he should had said it clearly, specifically, and direct.

Hudler's just a drama-wanna be/attention whore.

[AndChiefs]

Of course Wade walks the first guy.

[Ceej]

Falling behind hitters isn't going to be pretty, Wade.

[MrGiggity]

Wade just being Wade

[Coach]

tired of Davis.

FYP.

[Al Bundy]

Wade Davies is just crap.

[Coach]

Dammit Kotta....

[CoMoChief]

FANTASTIC block of the plate!!!

[stonedstooge]

Kottaras defense comes into play early

[petegz28]

What a fucking clown circus

[lewdog]

Get a single bullet. Take Wade out behind the barn.

[Toadkiller]

Hah George said you aint even touching this base.

[CoMoChief]

the play before that was bad lol

[Ceej]

That might have been a good thing.

[mr. tegu]

That inning could have been a lot worst.

[stonedstooge]

Coulda been a whole lot worse

[Nickel D]

On the other hand, it could have been alot less better.

[Canofbier]

Kottaras shouldn't be given too much credit...the first run may not have scored if he had caught/blocked that pitch appropriately like we know Perez would have done.

[Coach]

Oh you have got to be fucking kidding me....

[Ceej]

At least most of the guys are hitting the ball hard.

[Coach]

At least most of the guys are hitting the ball hard.

Unfortunately, it's right at people.....

[stonedstooge]

On the other hand, it could have been alot less better.

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[Canofbier]

Woah. Call the cops, because the Bank of Cain was just robbed.

[Ceej]

WTF was Robinson doing there?

[Nickel D]

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Pleeeeeeeeeease...

Can we not show any respect for the soon-to-be prematurely dead?

[Ceej]

SIT THE FUCK DOWN, LYLE.

[stonedstooge]

that's better

[SPATCH]

who the fuck is david robertson?

[petegz28]

Ball never hit him or his jersey

[Ceej]

Ball never hit him or his jersey

Uhh, yes it did.

Watch the slow motion replay.

[petegz28]

Uhh, yes it did.

Watch the slow motion replay.

I'm at 54th st grill so not an option

[stonedstooge]

Fucking Cano. 4-0

[C3HIEF3S]

:banghead::banghead:

[Toadkiller]

Shit show.

[petegz28]

And that's why I didn't stay home to watch this game tonight

[Ceej]

Just remember I sacrificed this for you guys.

[Three7s]

Fuck you, Davies.

They're gonna have to get Duffy up. Davies is an automatic loss.

[Blankey]

Help us Danny Duffy, you're our only hope

[lewdog]

Just remember I sacrificed this for you guys.

Until wade is relieved of his duties, no game threads on the days he pitches.

[mr. tegu]

We have been hitting the ball hard. Time to score some runs.

[Ceej]

Until wade is relieved of his duties, no game threads on the days he pitches.

I can get on board with that.

[chiefsfan987]

I see the Royals are on their quest to play 162 games from behind this season. I swear they give up the early lead in practically every game they play.

[petegz28]

Billy, dude, the umps are not going to let the yanks blow a 4 run lead.. Swing the bat

[Cephalic Trauma]

And that's why I didn't stay home to watch this game tonight

We get it. You're only a fan when they are winning. Start your own whiney thread about it and spare us.

[lewdog]

We get it. You're only a fan when they are winning. Start you're own whiney thread about it and spare us.

Nope. Pete should get the honor of doing every game thread that Davis pitches!

[Cephalic Trauma]

Nope. Pete should get the honor of doing every game thread that Davis pitches!

Hootie-level whining incoming.

That said, I support this idea and I will probably avoid it entirely.

[stonedstooge]

Cano's such a bitch. I wish we had him

[ptlyon]

Fuckin Davis. We will never get to .500 with him in the lineup

[Ceej]

At least we will be resting Greg tonight.

[stonedstooge]

C'mon Dumb George

[petegz28]

We get it. You're only a fan when they are winning. Start your own whiney thread about it and spare us.

About the dumbest statement I have ever seen made. If you think I'm even close to fair weathered when it comes to the royals you're. Bigger dumb fuck than you seem to already be

[Cephalic Trauma]

About the dumbest statement I have ever seen made. If you think I'm even close to fair weathered when it comes to the royals you're. Bigger dumb **** than you seem to already be

I don't think you are close. You are spot on.

[stonedstooge]

Bases juiced for Alcides. Come on clutch, we need you now

[Cephalic Trauma]

Bases loaded with Escobar coming up...

[Ceej]

Well, let's go AlcidesNutz.

[PHOG]

Our clutch #2 hitter to the plate

[Blankey]

Woah he got all of that one

[PHOG]

Our clutch #2 hitter to the plate

Yeah, not so much

[C3HIEF3S]

Good thing Escobar is in the 2 hole. :doh!:

[Ceej]

Missed a fastball right down the plate.

[DeezNutz]

#YostIsDumbAsFuck

[Toadkiller]

How long Yost, how long. You fuck.

[petegz28]

I don't think you are close. You are spot on.

I've been to more spring training games than you have regular. You know absolutely dick. I'm pretty sure I had season tickets longer than you did as well.

[Cephalic Trauma]

#YostIsDumbAs****

Annnnd this. Can't wait to see what Rany has to say about this.

[chiefsfan987]

I like Alcides, but man... it's way past time to get him out of the 2 hole. We're doing our opposition way to many favors in allowing them to walk Gordon to get to him. He shouldn't have a single plate appearance in that spot after this game the rest of the season. Ned, enough is enough, stop putting him there just because you don't want 3 lefties in a row.

[Cephalic Trauma]

I've been to more spring training games than you have regular. You know absolutely dick. I'm pretty sure I had season tickets longer than you did as well.

OMGosh so cool. You're like the Royals X-factor!!!!

[petegz28]

OMGosh so cool. You're like the Royals X-factor!!!!

And you're just a loud mouth that has probably done little if anything to support this team outside of talking shit

[Ceej]

Kottaras throws like a girl.

[Cephalic Trauma]

And you're just a loud mouth that has probably done little if anything to support this team outside of talking shit

Okay Pete. I'm sure you're a fantastic fan outside of this message board, but you are an enormous douche on here. And you're a predictable roller coaster depending on the state of the game. It's irritating.

[Cephalic Trauma]

Kottaras throws like a girl.

Rany tweeted earlier he has the best OPS on the team, so there's that.

[Ceej]

Nobody gives a goddamn about the fucking Mets fan!

[PHOG]

Way to keep him in the yard :clap:

[stonedstooge]

About time for Wegive Gutierrez to start warming up

[stonedstooge]

HAHA. Called it

[Dartgod]

Get him out of there.

[petegz28]

Okay Pete. I'm sure you're a fantastic fan outside of this message board, but you are an enormous douche on here. And you're a predictable roller coaster depending on the state of the game. It's irritating.

Awwwwww wha, bitch

[Dartgod]

So, instead of pulling him, Ned sends out the pitching coach to give him a good "talking to".

[GloryDayz]

This ain't good!

[Dartgod]

WTF, ump?

[PHOG]

Yost has has finger up his butt, wondering what to do?

[stonedstooge]

NICE STATEGY NED

[Ceej]

Yost has has finger up his butt, wondering what to do?

You think he sniffs it too?

[DeezNutz]

You just have to laugh at the fail from manager to player.

[Walrus]

Thanks, Ned.

[PHOG]

Shields last night had 102 pitches and retired 13 in a row, this loser has 103 in the sixth and won't pull him....GDI!!!!!

[Dartgod]

Great job leaving him in Ned. You stupid motherfucker.

[lewdog]

Ah yea. Who was it that wanted to keep Davis in the rotation?

Garbage.

[GloryDayz]

I'll bet Ned's 2nd guessing himself... LOL!

[Toadkiller]

Brilliant, keep him in to get confidence.

[siberian khatru]

Jesus H. Christ

[DeezNutz]

I know that it hurts Moore's ego to move Davies to the pen, but that's what must happen; he's absolute trash in the rotation.

[Ceej]

We will never hit .500 again.

[Dartgod]

I'll bet Ned's 2nd guessing himself... LOL!

I wouldn't give him that much credit. Colossal fail.

[siberian khatru]

And we're going to suffer another 60 starts of this Davies/Hochevar crap with Davis before the Royals accept what he is.

[PHOG]

I'll bet Ned's 2nd guessing himself... LOL!

Unfortunately, probably not :doh!:

[TambaBerry]

We will never hit .500 again.
^

[Mama Hip Rockets]

Excellent move, Ned!

[Brianfo]

Wade Davis FTW

[DeezNutz]

And we're going to suffer another 60 starts of this Davies/Hochevar crap with Davis before the Royals accept what he is.

Mendoza, immediately pulled. Davis, much patience.

Gio sucks shit? Immediately pulled. Getz, much patience.

The organization can just be frustrating as shit.

[texaschiefsfan]

Eh, this game was over anyway. Davis shouldn't start another game. Ever.

[stonedstooge]

BP time

[CoMoChief]

haha...why Yost didn't bench this guy earlier ROFL

[Hootie]

Ned probably figured game was over. Was trying to get a few extra outs out of Davis. Probably should give Hoch another try next time Davis' spot pops up. He has thrown well and can't be any worse.

[Ceej]

This loss can be attributed to the schmuck who started the game thread.

I dared to dream.

[stonedstooge]

Ned probably figured game was over. Was trying to get a few extra outs out of Davis. Probably should give Hoch another try next time Davis' spot pops up. He has thrown well and can't be any worse.

Chen's been pitching worse, so talk is that Ned will start him instead

[PHOG]

Det 5 Sox3 in the Sixth; Toronto 2 Slugs 1 in the 7th

[petegz28]

WTF happened I turn away for 2 minutes and it's 8-0???

[stonedstooge]

WTF happened I turn away for 2 minutes and it's 8-0???
Ned's confidence building again

[lewdog]

Hitting bitch ass Gardner. Good.

[Ceej]

WTF happened I turn away for 2 minutes and it's 8-0???

Wade was getting his pitching tidied up for the homerun derby next week.

He's the honorary pitcher.

[petegz28]

Wade was getting his pitching tidied up for the homerun derby next week.

He's the honorary pitcher.

:facepalm:

[PHOG]

Duffy?

[petegz28]

Well, as most of you know I am a huge Escobar fan but I am in full agreement he needs to be batting 9th not 2nd. This is total fail on the part of Yost. On top of that the continued tinkering with the lineup every fucking game and mis-management of the Pen really makes you wonder HTF this guy still has his job?

[Brianfo]

Eh, this game was over anyway. Davis shouldn't start another game. Ever.

Word. Game was over but Davis will get multiple more starts. Who else you gonna put out there? It's the same chit different year. The question I have is will the Royals have the balls to be sellers. We aren't winning chit this year. Trade Santana. He would instantly be the best pitcher on the mkt if they put him on the block. I would also put Butler on the block. He's a one trick pony.

[petegz28]

Word. Game was over but Davis will get multiple more starts. Who else you gonna put out there? It's the same chit different year. The question I have is will the Royals have the balls to be sellers. We aren't winning chit this year. Trade Santana. He would instantly be the best pitcher on the mkt if they put him on the block. I would also put Butler on the block. He's a one trick pony.

Billy has 2 more HR's than Moose this year and has a ton more AB's and is supposed to be a hitting specialist. I have suggested trading him for the last couple years.

[stonedstooge]

I say they hit Gordon

[petegz28]

I'm just waiting for Hud to tell us about the 8-run HR we need to hit.

[Sure-Oz]

Royals need 2 SP's now and 2 hitters.

Davis probably just isnt getting any better...he will probably dominate out of the pen

key to the trade...

[TambaBerry]

yes fuck you cano you bitch

[Mr. Laz]

we need Wade Davis to succeed as a starting pitcher to make the Myers trade viable. It's a long season, you football guys just don't understand baseball ....

[ChiTown]

Royals need 2 SP's now and 2 hitters.

Davis probably just isnt getting any better...he will probably dominate out of the pen

key to the trade...

He fucking sucks balls.

[Hootie]

Trading Billy because he's had a slow start? Seems like an overreaction. No difference between losing a game 14-0 or 2-1. We lost a Wade Davis start, the sun will rise tomorrow.

[PHOG]

Yost must go, everything else will take care of itself (maybe, hopefully), I'm convinced...I've seen enough head scratchers from this dumb ass

[petegz28]

Face it, GMDM does not have an eye for pitching at all. Crow, Hoch, Davies?? Shields was a no-brainer, Santana has performed beyond expectations Holland was a lucky find.

[Dartgod]

I'm 0-3 in game threads this year, 2 of them Shields starts. I'm starting the next Davis game thread*. Maybe it will be reverse mojo.







*God forbid he gets another start.

[petegz28]

Trading Billy because he's had a slow start? Seems like an overreaction. No difference between losing a game 14-0 or 2-1. We lost a Wade Davis start, the sun will rise tomorrow.

No, trading Billy because we are not in the position to afford a one trick pony that doesn't even do that trick very well.

I have called for a Butler trade for going on 3 years simply because he is a player we can possibly get something for and not miss too much in the lineup.

[Hootie]

No, trading Billy because we are not in the position to afford a one trick pony that doesn't even do that trick very well.

I have called for a Butler trade for going on 3 years simply because he is a player we can possibly get something for and not miss too much in the lineup.

What is a "one trick pony"? He's a 25/100 .300 guy. Those don't grow on trees.

[Hootie]

Billy is being protected in the lineup by .700 OPS hitters. He gets nothing to hit, and rightfully so.

[petegz28]

What is a "one trick pony"? He's a 25/100 .300 guy. Those don't grow on trees.

He's slow, he doesn't hit for power consistently, he can't play defense, he grounds into a shit-ton of DP's.......and that was before this year

[petegz28]

Billy is being protected in the lineup by .700 OPS hitters. He gets nothing to hit, and rightfully so.

So if he is that good then we should get something good for him

[petegz28]

well, at least the 0 is gone

[C3HIEF3S]

No shutout. Nice hit Hos.

[Hootie]

So if he is that good then we should get something good for him

So on a team that already can't hit you suggest trading our best hitter. Well, ok.

[stonedstooge]

Yost must go, everything else will take care of itself (maybe, hopefully), I'm convinced...I've seen enough head scratchers from this dumb ass

Would have loved to see what Francona could have done with this team this year

[petegz28]

So on a team that already can't hit you suggest trading our best hitter. Well, ok.

Yea,...uh, what?

Gordon is arguably our best hitter
Hosmer is on pace to be our 2nd best hitter

Perez is on the upswing of his career as well

[PHOG]

I can tell that they are tired of playing for a MGR that gives games away. JMO

[tk13]

I see Butler was able to quell the crazy trade discussion for 48 hours, at least.

[DeezNutz]

He's slow, he doesn't hit for power consistently, he can't play defense, he grounds into a shit-ton of DP's.......and that was before this year

Trade him to whom? It has to be an AL team for starters...

We've gone through this a million times; Butler is a very, very good hitter, whose value is almost certainly greater to the Royals than to about any other team.

All the reasons you're killing Billyy, which are largely hyperbolic, are also evocative of the reasons why his trade value is marginalized.

[petegz28]

I see Butler was able to quell the crazy trade discussion for 48 hours, at least.

I like him and I'll root for him as long as he is a Royal but I think he is a player we need to consider trading

[C3HIEF3S]

On a positive note Duffy is looking good so far tonight.

so far he is at 5 IP 5 H 1 ER 3 BB 2 SO 1 HR 77 pitches

[tk13]

I like him and I'll root for him as long as he is a Royal but I think he is a player we need to consider trading

For what? If it's someone like Stanton... sure, sign me up. But unless the Royals move to the NL somebody has to DH. It's not like that position goes away. The guy just won the Silver Slugger Award at the one position where all you do is hit. Why on earth would you trade him?

[DeezNutz]

For what? If it's someone like Stanton... sure, sign me up. But unless the Royals move to the NL somebody has to DH. It's not like that position goes away. The guy just won the Silver Slugger Award at the one position where all you do is hit. Why on earth would you trade him?

Because it's Butler's fault, not Davies, Frenchy, insert name of scrub at 2B, Moose, Moore, etc.

[petegz28]

Trade him to whom? It has to be an AL team for starters...

We've gone through this a million times; Butler is a very, very good hitter, whose value is almost certainly greater to the Royals than to about any other team.

All the reasons you're killing Billyy, which are largely hyperbolic, are also evocative of the reasons why his trade value is marginalized.

hyperbolic? Come on. Now I agree he is worth more to us than say Detroit or Cleveland. But that being said it shows how over-stated he is. Royals fans act like he is just as valuable to them as he is us when in reality that isn't so. Anyhow, I'd trade him if the deal were right.

[MeatRock]

Well..........this is not the outcome i had hoped for. Davis you asshole.
BTW, the entire team got clowned by Nova........sigh....:#

[petegz28]

Because it's Butler's fault, not Davies, Frenchy, insert name of scrub at 2B, Moose, Moore, etc.

What did we get for French? Oh yea, not shit. I am just saying we need pieces and you have to trade value to get value and Butler is a value we can live without, imo.

[GloryDayz]

Dun dun dun dun da da.......CHARGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[MeatRock]

For what? If it's someone like Stanton... sure, sign me up. But unless the Royals move to the NL somebody has to DH. It's not like that position goes away. The guy just won the Silver Slugger Award at the one position where all you do is hit. Why on earth would you trade him?

I like Stanton too, based on his past level of play, but Stanton sucks balls this year so far.

[tk13]

Detroit's got Victor Martinez and Cleveland has Giambi at DH... neither one of those guys were ever worth a lick in the field. Butler is better than both of those guys.

[DeezNutz]

hyperbolic? Come on. Now I agree he is worth more to us than say Detroit or Cleveland. But that being said it shows how over-stated he is. Royals fans act like he is just as valuable to them as he is us when in reality that isn't so. Anyhow, I'd trade him if the deal were right.

Career: .297/.363/.462

This is really is one "down year" because his doubles are also off.

Butler is, arguably, the most underrated player on the team. Why? Because he's fat and slow.

[stonedstooge]

Welp that sucked

[GloryDayz]

Well, that's all folks....

[DeezNutz]

What did we get for French? Oh yea, not shit. I am just saying we need pieces and you have to trade value to get value and Butler is a value we can live without, imo.

You trade prospects when you're trying to make a push, not your best hitter.

[GloryDayz]

I love how they were all but laughing at ned on the grand slam...

[Al Bundy]

That sucked... Davies gives us no chance.

[TLO]

Duffy?

Paulino?

[PHOG]

Paulino?

I think Duffy is closer?

[C3HIEF3S]

Well best you can do is move on from this game and get tomorrow's game with Santana on the bump.

[petegz28]

You trade prospects when you're trying to make a push, not your best hitter.

We need pieces ..sorry we will just agree to disagree. You have to trade something to get something.

[petegz28]

I think Duffy is closer?

Duffy is pitching tonight. He had a bad outing his last start but had 2 good ones before that. He still has the problem of not being able to go deep into games.

[C3HIEF3S]

Duffy is pitching tonight. He had a bad outing his last start but had 2 good ones before that. He still has the problem of not being able to go deep into games.

Looking alright tonight so far. Not sure if he's going to come out for another inning or not.

6 IP 7 H 1 ER 3 BB 2 SO 1 HR 95 pitches

[PHOG]

Duffy is pitching tonight. He had a bad outing his last start but had 2 good ones before that. He still has the problem of not being able to go deep into games.
ok, thanks for the update...here's to hoping all goes good for him :toast:

[gblowfish]

Well, that stung.
Get em tomorrow....

[crossbow]

Hoz is still on a rampage. The guy could end up with a 300 average and 25 homers. Don't know what George said to him but he has taken off like a rocket. Hitting for power and average. Balls leave his bat like they were launched from bottle rockets.

[NJChiefsFan]

There always could be a deal out there I would take, but realistically I don't think you guys could get a deal worth trading away Butler. I like the guy a lot. Not only is he underrated in the league but he is in fantasy as well. I still am expecting/hoping for a big second half for him. As it has been mentioned, a guy near or at .300 25/100 is pretty damn good. And really as the years go on I think that's probably more like 30/100. Hitting 3 categories, and that's not even counting doubles, is more than a 1 trick pony.

Again, there is always a trade worth considering, but I don't see that happening.

[Nightfyre]

Coleman just destroys right handed batters. His fastball had sick sinking action this evening. That was about the biggest bright spot for tonight.

[GloryDayz]

Hoz is still on a rampage. The guy could end up with a 300 average and 25 homers. Don't know what George said to him but he has taken off like a rocket. Hitting for power and average. Balls leave his bat like they were launched from bottle rockets.

I still want to mate with the lady in you Sig block! And share the burger too!

[duncan_idaho]

Coleman just destroys right handed batters. His fastball had sick sinking action this evening. That was about the biggest bright spot for tonight.

Like I've been saying all season... leaving a lockdown late weapon like Louis Coleman in Omaha was a near-criminal offense while wastes of space like JC Gutierrez dotted the MLB bullpen.

The Royals' BEST bullpen would look like this:

Holland
Davis
Crow
Collins
Baummann* (lefty specialist)
Coleman* (righty specialist)
Hochevar (mop-up)

* WIth specialists like this, it's important to use them judiciously and NOT expose them to opposite-handed hitters. I don't trust Yost to do that, but it's the way a GOOD manager would do it.

Also, Tim Collins would never be used as a lefty specialist again.

[duncan_idaho]

Hoz is still on a rampage. The guy could end up with a 300 average and 25 homers. Don't know what George said to him but he has taken off like a rocket. Hitting for power and average. Balls leave his bat like they were launched from bottle rockets.

"Put your hands higher and quiet your swing down. Also, stop trying to be Tony Gwynn."

Natural talent has taken over from there.

[DeepSouth]

Like I've been saying all season... leaving a lockdown late weapon like Louis Coleman in Omaha was a near-criminal offense while wastes of space like JC Gutierrez dotted the MLB bullpen.

The Royals' BEST bullpen would look like this:

Holland
Davis
Crow
Collins
Baummann* (lefty specialist)
Coleman* (righty specialist)
Hochevar (mop-up)

* WIth specialists like this, it's important to use them judiciously and NOT expose them to opposite-handed hitters. I don't trust Yost to do that, but it's the way a GOOD manager would do it.

Also, Tim Collins would never be used as a lefty specialist again.
where's Mendoza in your bullpen ?