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KCUnited
07-14-2013, 12:10 PM
Despite having a decent sized Jewish population in KC, I always seem to struggle to find a good pastrami sandwich in my neighborhood. We have some good Italian delis, but the closure of New York Deli left me unable to find a pastrami sandwich worth a **** around KC. So I figured I'd give it a shot at home with my own version of traditionally prepped pastrami.

Ingredients for the wet cure.

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McGonigle's whole trimmed brisket. This is just the flat, I cut the point off because I'd rather smoke it for burnt ends.

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Submerged with brine in a food grade bucket.

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2 weeks later. Pulled from the brine. Rinsed. Pastrami rub added, placed in refrigerator overnight to let the rub penetrate.

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14 hours later. Pulled from refrigerator, ready to smoke.

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Smoked to an internal temp of 165 over hickory and cherry.

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I don't have a steamer so I had to manufacture one. I poured already boiling water into a roasting pan and placed the pastrami on top of a broiler pan, topped with foil and placed in the oven at 350. ***I cut a test piece off to ensure my flavors were there***

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Out of the steamer, ready to slice.

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Served on light rye with yellow mustard and homemade hot refrigerator pickles I make.

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Verdict: Nice savory flavor, nice bite from the rub. When I do this again, I may take it up to 175/180 in the smoker as I don't have a steam room to set it in all day. Also, I really need a meat slicer (and a better camera), a good one. The brisket sized slices were nice, but I prefer a thinner slice than I was able to accomplish with my slicing knife. Will definitely do it again.

Definitely a Q, no1curr, tl;dr

hometeam
07-14-2013, 12:14 PM
Would smash.

mlyonsd
07-14-2013, 12:15 PM
Very cool.

I bought this slicer 3 or 4 years ago.

http://www.cabelas.com/product/Home-Cabin/Food-Processing/Slicers%7C/pc/104798880/c/104723280/sc/104577480/Cabelas-Pro-150-Slicer/714541.uts?destination=%2Fcategory%2FSlicers%2F104577480.uts&WTz_l=DirectLoad%3Bcat104577480

While it certainly isn't commercial grade it gets the job done when slicing beef thin. I use it when I make dried beef.

Fish
07-14-2013, 12:15 PM
I've never had a pastrami. Do you have any leftovers?

lewdog
07-14-2013, 12:20 PM
FYI, I've met the OP. He loves food but isn't fat in the slightest.

BlackHelicopters
07-14-2013, 12:30 PM
Sounds delicious

KCUnited
07-14-2013, 12:32 PM
Very cool.

I bought this slicer 3 or 4 years ago.

http://www.cabelas.com/product/Home-Cabin/Food-Processing/Slicers%7C/pc/104798880/c/104723280/sc/104577480/Cabelas-Pro-150-Slicer/714541.uts?destination=%2Fcategory%2FSlicers%2F104577480.uts&WTz_l=DirectLoad%3Bcat104577480

While it certainly isn't commercial grade it gets the job done when slicing beef thin. I use it when I make dried beef.
Wow, that's a great price, will look into, thanks.

angelo
07-14-2013, 12:35 PM
KC,

I do my own pastrami. I use a blend of white and black (telicherry) peppercorns with the coriander and also a little bit of crushed red pepper for added heat.

I would also recommend some white oak or pecan wood with apple. It balances a good flavor.

Those Hamilton beach roaster ovens work great as a steamer

Ang

KCUnited
07-14-2013, 12:36 PM
I've never had a pastrami. Do you have any leftovers?

Yeah, I hadn't really planned on what I was going to do with 7 lbs of pastrami.

BigMeatballDave
07-14-2013, 12:37 PM
I came

KCUnited
07-14-2013, 12:38 PM
FYI, I've met the OP. He loves food but isn't fat in the slightest.

That seals it, I got a Boulevard Love Child #3 with your name on it when I'm down next year. Well done.

KCUnited
07-14-2013, 12:43 PM
KC,

I do my own pastrami. I use a blend of white and black (telicherry) peppercorns with the coriander and also a little bit of crushed red pepper for added heat.

I would also recommend some white oak or pecan wood with apple. It balances a good flavor.

Those Hamilton beach roaster ovens work great as a steamer

Ang

Yeah, I went with the wood I had on hand. I used coriander as well, which I was leery of, but the crust was spot on.

What's your internal when you take it off your smoker?

Thanks for the recommendations.

lewdog
07-14-2013, 12:45 PM
I don't know WTF is really going on in here but 14 days in a food bucket? How does that work. Refrigerate that I assume?

Ming the Merciless
07-14-2013, 12:45 PM
holy fuck


I just had to swallow a massive amount of drool because i had nothing to slobber / spit in to...

Jesus H christ what a sammy

I mean



OY VEY!

KCUnited
07-14-2013, 12:48 PM
I don't know WTF is really going on in here but 14 days in a food bucket? How does that work. Refrigerate that I assume?

Yeah, I put it in a mini fridge and keep it around 40 degrees. You can do it in less time depending on the thickness of the brisket or whatever cut you're using.

gblowfish
07-14-2013, 12:49 PM
My pal Mr. Doggity makes home made pastrami.

Seems like D'Bronx has a decent pastrami sandwich.

DeezNutz
07-14-2013, 12:54 PM
Jersey Boyz makes a high-quality pastrami, though what you've put together looks truly impressive.

BigMeatballDave
07-14-2013, 12:54 PM
I don't know WTF is really going on in here but 14 days in a food bucket? How does that work. Refrigerate that I assume?

It's in a salt brine. It would take a long time to go bad.

lewdog
07-14-2013, 12:57 PM
It's in a salt brine. It would take a long time to go bad.

Interesting. Thanks.

KCUnited
07-14-2013, 12:58 PM
Jersey Boyz makes a high-quality pastrami, though what you've put together looks truly impressive.

Cool. Looks like there is one fairly close to my work, will check it out.

R8RFAN
07-14-2013, 01:04 PM
Damn that looks great

BigMeatballDave
07-14-2013, 01:05 PM
Interesting. Thanks.

Yep. Somehow salt retards the growth of microorganisms.

DeezNutz
07-14-2013, 01:08 PM
Cool. Looks like there is one fairly close to my work, will check it out.

Mind you, it's been a long time since I've had one there, and my knowledge is only of the "original" location in Stanley.

But I always thought they put together some high-quality sandwiches.

lewdog
07-14-2013, 01:09 PM
Yep. Somehow salt retards the growth of microorganisms.

I understand the concept but didn't know it could make meat last weeks in the fridge in a brine like that.

And this looks just epic in here. I love pastrami.

Fire Me Boy!
07-14-2013, 01:20 PM
You should chop that up, mix in some cumin, paprika, soy sauce, thyme, basil, peanuts, sesame oil, crushed red pepper, anise, red curry powder, sage, and mint, along with some breadcrumbs and two eggs, and make one helluva burger.

Saulbadguy
07-14-2013, 01:23 PM
Try a tongue next time, kthx.

gblowfish
07-14-2013, 01:46 PM
I asked my pal Mr. Doggity about Pastrami in KC. He's a big foodie, and knows all the best places. Here's what he said:

"The best I've had is at Marv's Delicatessen in Leawood, and at Grinders West in the Crossroads. I've also heard that LaSala's on 5th, over by the original Garrozzo's is good, too. And of course D'Bronx."

Valiant
07-14-2013, 01:53 PM
People like giovanni's in the northland.. They sell pastrami that you can buy and take home..

KCUnited
07-14-2013, 01:54 PM
I asked my pal Mr. Doggity about Pastrami in KC. He's a big foodie, and knows all the best places. Here's what he said:

"The best I've had is at Marv's Delicatessen in Leawood, and at Grinders West in the Crossroads. I've also heard that LaSala's on 5th, over by the original Garrozzo's is good, too. And of course D'Bronx."

My next door neighbor is a food writer for The Pitch and he recommended LaSala's as well. I've had D'Bronx pastrami and it was just ok, imo.

Phobia
07-14-2013, 01:56 PM
I want one of those. I used to do a lot of work for Jim and Barbara. It's a shame they closed the NY Deli. That place was the bomb.

angelo
07-14-2013, 02:04 PM
Yeah, I went with the wood I had on hand. I used coriander as well, which I was leery of, but the crust was spot on.

What's your internal when you take it off your smoker?

Thanks for the recommendations.

170-175 and then to 185 under steam

I let it rest for quite a while 1 hour plus to relax.

Save the scrapes for a great pastrami hash.
Top with a poached egg and horseradish mustard hollandaise.

Ang

KCUnited
07-14-2013, 02:07 PM
It seems as if the surge in "fast food" sandwich places has killed the deli. No one should have to drive all over tarnation to get a legit pastrami sandwich. I search deli by my zip code and I get Chick Fil A, D'Bronx (which is somewhat legit), Subway, Planet Sub (which I can enjoy), and Firehouse Subs (who advertises a brisket sandwich imported from Texas). Unimpressed.

KCUnited
07-14-2013, 02:10 PM
170-175 and then to 185 under steam

I let it rest for quite a while 1 hour plus to relax.

Save the scrapes for a great pastrami hash.
Top with a poached egg and horseradish mustard hollandaise.

Ang

Good to know. My initial thought afterwards was to leave it on to 175.

Easy 6
07-14-2013, 02:20 PM
You should chop that up, mix in some cumin, paprika, soy sauce, thyme, basil, peanuts, sesame oil, crushed red pepper, anise, red curry powder, sage, and mint, along with some breadcrumbs and two eggs, and make one helluva burger.

LMAO

Fish
07-14-2013, 02:39 PM
You should chop that up, mix in some cumin, paprika, soy sauce, thyme, basil, peanuts, sesame oil, crushed red pepper, anise, red curry powder, sage, and mint, along with some breadcrumbs and two eggs, and make one helluva burger.

LMAO

Chief_For_Life58
07-14-2013, 03:29 PM
Would smash.

this x 100

OnTheWarpath15
07-14-2013, 03:32 PM
You should chop that up, mix in some cumin, paprika, soy sauce, thyme, basil, peanuts, sesame oil, crushed red pepper, anise, red curry powder, sage, and mint, along with some breadcrumbs and two eggs, and make one helluva burger.

LMAO